[05:55] <hikiko> hi
[08:03] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:18] <Sweet5hark> pitti: Orrr hell no, you will not, will ya?!
[08:18] <Sweet5hark> bonjours a tous!
[08:20] <pitti> Bonojur tout le monde !
[08:20] <seb128> salut pitti
[08:20] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark
[08:20] <pitti> Sweet5hark: <checks date> not April first I'm afraid, so I'm serious
[08:21]  * Sweet5hark hugs pitti.
[08:21] <pitti> ça va seb128, as-tu eu un bon weekend?
[08:21]  * pitti hugs Sweet5hark back
[08:21] <seb128> oui, très bon, et toi ?
[08:21] <Sweet5hark> seb128: salut
[08:22] <pitti> je vais bien aussie -- on a revu des amis de Dresden, joué du badminton, et la plus importante chose: le premier stollen !
[08:23] <seb128> pitti, btw we understood why the packet took a while to arrive, you didn't write the "wp" part of the postcode, they work with 4 digits + 2 lettres and you only noted down the digits, so they sent it back to triaging site, it arrived with an extra sticker with the "wp" info
[08:24] <pitti> ah!
[08:24]  * Sweet5hark recently learned about that the pope gave explicit permission to saxony to use butter in their stollen after they asked about it. usesless facts 101
[08:24] <pitti> seb128: I didn't have a zip code from you, so I googled for it at the post office and this was the best I got
[08:25] <seb128> oh ok
[08:25] <pitti> Sweet5hark: !
[08:25] <seb128> anyway, it arrived at the end, stollen ftw!
[08:25] <pitti> Sweet5hark: so this had been illegal for like 5 centuries?
[08:25]  * seb128 hugs pitti
[08:25] <pitti> seb128: so what is the full postcode?
[08:25] <seb128> 2611wp
[08:25] <pitti> ah, just that
[08:25] <seb128> yes
[08:26] <Sweet5hark> pitti: it was pope innocence VIII, so I guess it wasnt illegal for that long.
[08:34] <seb128> Sweet5hark, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stollen#History agrees with you
[09:03] <Laney> arrrrrrrrr
[09:03] <pitti> heeey Laney, good morning
[09:04] <Laney> hey pitti
[09:04] <seb128> brrrr Laney
[09:04] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:04] <Laney> seb128: indeed
[09:05] <willcooke> o/
[09:05] <Laney> seb128: good day off / weekend?
[09:05] <Laney> sup willcooke?
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:06] <seb128> yes! got some present ideas, enjoyed the weather than started feeling like winter, had some nice food and relaxing time
[09:06] <seb128> you?
[09:06] <seb128> hey willcooke davmor2
[09:07] <davmor2> Laney: man you and your street lingo bein' all down wid de kidz
[09:07] <seb128> it's amazing how all you u.k people start your day in a few minutes range ;-)
[09:08] <davmor2> seb128: I'm only late cause I had to set up my office again was at my mom's all last week
[09:08] <seb128> not later than your other fellow u.k coworkers ;-)
[09:08] <davmor2> seb128: normally though it's down to how fast your laptop starts up
[09:09]  * Laney lives by the radio 4 pips
[09:09] <willcooke> ha!
[09:09] <willcooke> ditto
[09:10] <Laney> seb128: was good, saw a friend on friday for bike ride and cake and climbing, then family at the weekend
[09:10] <Laney> ended up going shopping on BLACK FRIDAY /o\
[09:10] <willcooke> Laney, did you get to punch someone over a Bush TV?
[09:11] <Laney> I took a cattle prod
[09:11] <willcooke> Very wise
[09:11] <Laney> actually it wasn't that busy at 9am when I went
[09:11] <Laney> almost every shop had a BLACK FRIDAY WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! poster up though
[09:11] <Laney> oh
[09:11] <Laney> huntingdon news
[09:11] <Laney> aldi is opening this week!
[09:12] <willcooke> I love Aldi
[09:12] <flexiondotorg> Happy Cyber Monday desktopers
[09:12] <willcooke> hey flexiondotorg
[09:12] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg
[09:13] <flexiondotorg> willcooke, Laney seb128 davmor2 pitti Sweet5hark hikiko Morning
[09:13] <Laney> the first 100 people get some kind of prize
[09:13] <willcooke> I splurged a bit at Amazon.  They had the Dash buttons (those little wifi connected buttons you press and they order stuff from Amazon) for 99p.  So I bought 6
[09:13] <Laney> was trolling my mum to get her to go down at 4am
[09:13] <Laney> O_O
[09:13] <flexiondotorg> Steady on there willcooke
[09:14] <hikiko> good morning all
[09:14] <willcooke> Also - they had 4.99 off your first order with the button.  So I spent too long making a spreadsheet to decide if it was worth it or not.  And it turns out, even with the discount, Amazon is no cheaper than the supermarket.
[09:15] <seb128> hey hikiko
[09:15] <willcooke> But... I bought boy #1 some Nerf bits for Christmas, and they had the discount as well.  So in the end I bought 6 buttons for 95p
[09:17] <seb128> willcooke, how do those work? you just press and it orders without you having to confirm? like if you set up one to order toilet paper and your kids decide to press it while you don't watch you end up with a truk of toilet paper at your door next day? ;-)
[09:17] <willcooke> Exactly!
[09:17] <seb128> lol
[09:18] <willcooke> There are some safe guards.  You can cancel the order if you find out about it in time, and you *can* tell it not to order another one until the previous one is delivered
[09:18] <willcooke> but you have to enable that, it's not the default (I think)
[09:18] <seb128> it has potential for fun situations
[09:18] <willcooke> I've given them reserved IP address and blocked them on the firewall.
[09:19] <willcooke> So now I just listen for the DHCP request and trigger an MQTT event
[09:19] <willcooke> but then I couldn't think of an actual purpose for them
[09:19] <willcooke> meh, worry about that another day
[09:20] <seb128> hehe
[09:21] <seb128> willcooke, http://www.dashbuttondudes.com/blog/2015/12/11/26-amazon-dash-button-hacks
[09:22] <seb128> just get one assign to "build that snap you are working on"
[09:22] <seb128> ;-)
[09:22] <willcooke> ah, nice one!
[09:22] <willcooke> Make it pull from github in to LP and start building
[09:25] <hikiko> what's the dash button?
[09:25] <willcooke> hikiko, see that link Seb posted for examples ^
[09:28] <hikiko> I saw it but I didn't understand: is it programmed already or the users hack them?
[09:29] <willcooke> It's already programmed, you can't do much by flashing it yourself as it's quite locked down
[09:30] <willcooke> so it's really only useful as a push button
[09:31] <hikiko> yeah I see, it's only useful to place orders quickly :)
[09:34] <Laney> make the kids have to press it every minute or else the wifi turns off
[09:34] <hikiko> they reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J691aLfkWP0 (10yrs ago video)
[09:34] <willcooke> It's a shame its so locked down, the hardware is really quite capable.  I assume that the brands that have buttons are massively subsidising them and so want to make sure naughty hackers can use them as generic development boards.  Kinda fair enough
[09:34] <hikiko> lol Laney
[09:34] <Laney> for bonus fun make it a different one each time
[09:34] <willcooke> :DD
[09:34] <Laney> actually that could be a fun exercise game
[09:34] <Laney> ⓒ ⓡ laney mmxvi
[10:11] <andyrock> morning all
[10:12] <Laney> sup andyrock
[10:15] <seb128> hyey andyrock, how are you? good w.e?
[10:16] <andyrock> nothing special, had a dinner with canonicalers (?) on thursday but that not w.e.
[10:16] <andyrock> you?
[10:28] <seb128> w.e was good and relaxing ;-)
[10:39] <hikiko> question on ucc:
[10:39] <hikiko> I've put some debugging printfs somewhere but the message is not printed in sdout
[10:40] <hikiko> I've checked the /proc/pid/fd/1
[10:40] <hikiko> and it's a symlink to /dev/ptsN
[10:40] <hikiko> which is the terminal where I started ucc
[10:40] <hikiko> so the stdout is not redirected
[10:41] <hikiko> why I can't see any printfs?
[10:52] <hikiko> pfff :p ignore :)
[10:52] <Laney> hikiko: ?!?!?!
[10:52] <hikiko> Laney, pebcak
[10:52] <hikiko> :p
[10:53] <hikiko> wrong executable :p
[10:53] <hikiko> well
[10:53] <hikiko> not wrong
[10:53] <hikiko> wrong u7
[10:53] <hikiko> so most of my functions were never called :p
[10:54] <Laney> heh
[10:55]  * Laney keeps typing zesty instead of xenial
[10:55] <Laney> :/
[10:55] <Laney> downloading the wrong source, releasing to the wrong release, testbuilding for the wrong release
[10:56] <hikiko> xD
[10:57] <Laney> better than typing zenial that I was doing for a while
[10:57] <Laney> actually it's probably not better
[10:57] <Laney> since I could actually upload to the wrong place ¬_¬
[10:57]  * Laney goes to lie in a darkened room
[11:09] <hikiko> lol I type that zenial too Laney :D
[12:29] <flexiondotorg> Yep. That ^
[14:50] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, hi, did you have a look at 5.3 beta yet?
[17:02] <hikiko> omg chromium finished building
[17:02] <hikiko> I was waiting at about 9hrs
[17:03] <seb128> hikiko, did you manage to get building over several machine or is that a local build?
[17:03] <hikiko> (1st build)
[17:03] <hikiko> no seb128 chromium uses ninja :/
[17:03] <hikiko> not make
[17:03] <hikiko> so I couldn't use distcc as I planned
[17:03] <seb128> hum, k
[17:04] <hikiko> but ok it's the 1st build I guess next will be faster :)
[17:04] <hikiko> (I hope...)
[17:05] <willcooke> well done hikiko :)
[17:08] <pitti> hikiko: would it help at all to do builds on a beefy cloud instance entirely, and just copy back the binary for testing?
[17:08] <pitti> hikiko: and yes, well done taming that beast!
[17:08] <pitti> (in the spirit of "my other computer is a data center")
[17:29] <hikiko> pitti, I will investigate solutions tomorrow :)
[18:12] <chrisccoulson> hikiko, 9 hours???
[18:12] <chrisccoulson> how much ram do you have?
[18:46] <ximion> Laney: re your call for a Debian infra test instance: yes please!! I wanted this for years (but so far the pain wasn't big enough)
[18:46] <ximion> Laney: on another issue, did you upload the Xenial appstream fix already?
[18:53] <Laney> hi ximion
[18:53] <Laney> what test instance?!?!?!?!
[18:53] <Laney> don't remember doing that ot it wasn't me
[18:53] <Laney> and yes I did
[18:58] <ximion> Laney: my bad, too many Ians :D
[18:58] <ximion> and me reading stuff way too quickly before leaving work
[18:59] <ximion> :P
[18:59] <ximion> ah, okay
[18:59] <ximion> Laney: Ubuntu users are the impatient breed ^^ (and like to spam you with "me too" mails so you fix the bug faster :P)
[19:02] <Laney> ximion: yeah, but it just makes the Launchpad mailbox more unusable when multiplied over many bugs
[19:04] <ximion> it's crazy annoying, especially after you already stated that you have enough information and are working on the bug
[19:04] <ximion> but I also feel sympathy for them, afterall they are annoyed too :P
[19:27] <willcooke> morning robert_ancell
[19:27] <robert_ancell> willcooke, hi
[19:42] <willcooke> alrighty, night all
[21:21] <blater> hi all