[05:57] <daftykins> good mornings
[07:12] <daftykins> pavlushka: bad connection!
[07:12] <pavlushka> daftykins: well, not anymore and sorry for the bother.
[09:07] <davmor2> Morning all you cyberhippies
[09:08] <popey> hello
[09:08] <daftykins> \o
[09:10] <SuperMatt> g'day
[09:10] <daftykins> happy cyber monday
[09:10] <SuperMatt> Still nothing that I want to buy
[09:10] <SuperMatt> I think I've finally risen above crass commercialism
[09:15] <daftykins> mmm i've been shopping for others but that's about it
[09:15] <SuperMatt> Yeah, me too
[09:16] <daftykins> tempted to pop in the local HMV to see if anything is going on
[09:16] <SuperMatt> HMV? What is this strange acronym seemingly from a bygone era?
[09:17] <daftykins> :) they set up here and used to ship out back when there was tax relief on postings up to England, but had to move once that loophole got closed
[09:17] <daftykins> the shop stayed open because apparently it was one of the chains top performers from across the whole company
[09:21] <SuperMatt> If there's one thing I want in the black friday sales is a new vacuum cleaner
[09:21] <daftykins> http://go.linuxfoundation.org/cyber-monday-2016
[09:21] <daftykins> ooh
[09:21] <SuperMatt> If I can get a dyson for half price, I'm game
[09:22] <diplo> Morning all
[09:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Make Your Own Head Day! 😃
[09:45] <TwistedLucidity> SuperMatt: Best deals are around Dec 18th (average 17% off). Black Friday has an average 5% off. It's a marketing scam.
[09:46] <xnox> i got dyson before christmas time for "half price" a few years back
[09:47] <TwistedLucidity> We have a Dyson. Then we got a Husky. Now we need more Dysons!
[09:48] <xnox>  /o\
[09:58] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:04] <dwatkins> we got a Shark vacuum cleaner, it's even better than the Dyson.
[11:18] <zmoylan-pi> you're going to need a bigger dyson... ;-p
[11:47] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: they did a washing machine once would that be big enough?
[12:03] <Laney> vacuum cleaner chat
[12:03] <Laney> we did grow up
[12:04] <dwatkins> do they not still sell the washing machine? that was huge.
[12:08] <davmor2> Laney: don't be daft we were all just told to keep it clean :D
[12:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: what was today by the way had the mains electric cable replaced so no interwebz :D
[12:10]  * Laney chats to davmor2 about pension options, mortgage rates and the best schools in the areazzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:11]  * davmor2 tells Laney to get off his lawn and shakes his stick at him
[12:11] <Laney> cheese and real ale
[12:11] <Laney> those are the good middle aged pleasures
[12:12] <davmor2> Laney: oh black bomber hmmmmmmm
[12:13] <Laney> norfolk white lady
[12:13]  * Laney homer simpson drool
[12:14] <Laney> https://www.thecheesesociety.co.uk/cheese-subscriptions/
[12:14] <Laney> O_O
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> perfect for a crimbo pressie for someone instead of the usual socks and underpants...
[12:15] <Laney> aye
[12:15] <Laney> might drop some hints
[12:15] <davmor2> Laney: seriously try some black bomber if you haven't,  also I prefer the Norfolk Marder or something like that, that was nice
[12:16] <davmor2> Laney: I think there is an L in that cheese some where but no matter where I put it, it didn't look right :)
[12:22] <JamesTait> davmor2, something about making your own head.
[12:23] <davmor2> JamesTait: oh that's dangerous
[12:23] <JamesTait> You're telling me!
[12:23] <JamesTait> Mine has enough bugs as it is, without me reinventing it.
[12:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLIerfXuZ4 think that should cover it right
[13:30] <diddledan> daftykins: that's an expensive t-shirt (ref: http://go.linuxfoundation.org/cyber-monday-2016)
[13:32] <diddledan> at least you get a freebie course to go with it
[13:32] <zmoylan-pi> but real linux geeks will know how much you paid for it...
[13:32] <diddledan> nah, only corporate linuxers will - those courses don't make "real" linux geeks
[13:35] <TwistedLucidity> Why would I want to give my money to a trade association raking it in from Oracle, MS etc? Seems to me, community member should support the community. Y'know, that thing the Foundation blocked from being on the board.
[13:36] <diddledan> I don't get what the foundation is supposed to provide to the linux world
[13:36] <zmoylan-pi> corporate legitimacy
[13:37] <zmoylan-pi> it's not just a bunch of neckbeards typing code in their mothers basement
[13:38] <diddledan> but neckbeards in the mom's basements are the ones who are the most important
[13:38] <diddledan> their*
[13:39] <TwistedLucidity> Not to the lawyers and accountants. The beard is just a cost centre waiting to be outsourced.
[13:39] <diddledan> :-(
[13:40]  * diddledan will have to shave
[13:40] <diddledan> :-(
[13:41] <zmoylan-pi> AND wear a suit
[13:41] <diddledan> oh god
[13:41] <diddledan> I refuse to work anywhere that I'm required to wear a suit
[13:41]  * zmoylan-pi breaks out the chocolate hobnobs (non generic) to coax diddledan out from under desk
[13:41]  * diddledan pokes his head out with his nose twitching
[13:42] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: Well, that's you excldued from all the main consultancies then.
[13:43] <TwistedLucidity> Some are incredibly strict
[13:43] <diddledan> >.<
[13:43] <TwistedLucidity> I used to work for one, not any more.
[13:43] <TwistedLucidity> Now I work from home. Clothing optional.
[13:44] <diddledan> \o/
[13:44] <diddledan> working from home is awesome
[13:45] <zmoylan-pi> that'll stop people hacking his webcam... twice...
[13:45] <TwistedLucidity> I really need to pull my finger our and reclaim money from HMRC
[13:45] <TwistedLucidity> *out
[13:45] <TwistedLucidity> IIRC you can get ~£18pcm back.
[13:45] <TwistedLucidity> Something like that anyway
[13:45] <diddledan> o_O
[13:46] <diddledan> really?
[13:46] <TwistedLucidity> Yeah. For heating, lighting etc
[13:46] <diddledan> aah
[13:46] <diddledan> yeah I think I knew about that
[13:47] <zmoylan-pi> do tux figurines justify a claim as they are religious icons? :-)
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> Unfortunately not, Linux actually exists
[13:51] <zmoylan-pi> bah ::switches back to invisible pink unicorn who's figures are very pricey::
[15:13] <dogmatic69> is it possible to remote desktop on unity yet?
[15:14] <diddledan> dogmatic69: unity7 or 8, client or server?
[15:14] <dogmatic69> whatever 16.04 is
[15:14] <dogmatic69> and 16.04 <-> 16.04 I want to remote with
[15:15] <diddledan> yes that'll work
[15:15] <SuperMatt> VNC has been possible for ages
[15:15] <SuperMatt> as well as X forwarding
[15:15] <dogmatic69> it totally has not, prev I have had to install xbuntu or something because unity would not work
[15:15] <diddledan> SuperMatt: I think dogmatic69 is referring to the issue a few releases ago where vnc wouldn't show the composited desktop
[15:15] <SuperMatt> oh right
[15:15] <SuperMatt> I had no idea
[15:16] <diddledan> vnc would connect but you'd see nada
[15:16] <dogmatic69> ye, you would log in and have a black screen
[15:16] <diddledan> yeah, dogmatic69, I think that's working now
[15:16] <SuperMatt> I gave up on vnc and remote desktop a long time ago
[15:16] <dogmatic69> diddledan: so I have remmana on the client, what should I install for the host?
[15:16] <diddledan> at least on 16.04 iirc
[15:17] <diddledan> use the default one, in the dash it's under "screen sharing" I think
[15:17] <diddledan> and yes, use remmina as the client
[15:17] <dogmatic69> cool, I will try that
[15:18] <diddledan> the advantage of the default vnc server is that it'll autostart without any further fiddling once you've toggled the switch, but it does require your session to be logged-in on the machine first
[15:19] <diddledan> so it's a session sharer rather than machine sharer if that makes sense?
[15:19] <dogmatic69> that is fine, just cant find the switch
[15:19] <diddledan> hang on, let me reboot to my ubuntu system and find the bits to walk you through
[15:19] <dogmatic69> "desktop sharing"
[15:19] <dogmatic69> I got it
[15:19] <diddledan> aha
[15:19] <dogmatic69> :)
[15:19] <diddledan> well done :-)
[15:19] <dogmatic69> you were close
[15:20] <diddledan> may find just searching for "sharing" would have shown it
[15:21] <dogmatic69> and it works
[15:22] <dogmatic69> looks horrid in 256 colours :D
[15:22] <dogmatic69> thanks diddledan
[15:22] <diddledan> hah. yeah, we're spoilt with meelions of colours
[16:07] <halt> Is there an up-to-date version of the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization page or any alternative to "Ubuntu Customization Kit" which still work with the 16.04 LTS version as well (to be more specific the gnome version if possible )
[16:10] <halt> I wanted to put together a portable "home" but things like keyboard layout, and installed packages and stuff I have to modify comparing to the default LiveCD and would be nice to have some permanent storage even if it's an other mount or something I can script it up to get stuff setup right if there is anything not possible to customise at livecd build time, like bashrc or stuff like this
[16:33] <davmor2> halt: not that I know too
[21:28] <dogmatic69> hi all, trying to run a command over ssh to start chrome on a remote host
[21:28] <dogmatic69> it should just run on the remote machine,
[21:28] <dogmatic69> nothing fancy
[21:37] <Gargoyle> Evenin'
[21:38] <Gargoyle> Can someone tell me the correct place to put a xrandr command to have it run after login?
[21:40] <Gargoyle> I tried .xinitrc and .xsession, but more googling suggests they only get run if you start a custom session, not default unity.
[21:40] <Gargoyle> Also tried /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start - no dice.
[21:44] <diddledan> Gargoyle: you could put it into "startup applications" (that's an applet name in the unity dash)
[21:46] <Gargoyle> lemme try that!
[21:47] <Gargoyle> Yes!
[21:47] <Gargoyle> Thanks dan!
[21:48] <Gargoyle> Correct scaling of my retina display! \o/
[21:52] <diddledan> \o/
[21:52] <Gargoyle> Awww. has /etc/rc.local finally bitten the dust on 16.10 too?
[22:43] <diddledan> the new gay agenda has been published: https://www.autostraddle.com/new-gay-agenda-super-secret-do-not-leak-360607/
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