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MTecknologyIs there anything like debian's git.debian.org for maintaining packaging stuff? I assume the answer is yes, my real question is "where?"00:04
naccMTecknology: some of us have been working on an 'importer' of sorts. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-November/039549.html00:06
naccMTecknology: but no, nothing officially the same as what debian does00:06
MTecknologyah, bummer00:08
naccMTecknology: i mean, it depends on what you meant, I suppose -- Launchpad is available for hosting your code, of course (git or bzr)00:08
MTecknologyI'm trying to work on a patch based on jabberd2 in ubuntu xenial and I'm trying to keep the patch done in a way that I can move the patch around more easily, including backports. It's just not a patch that has any place being sent upstream so I'll maintain it indefinitely.00:12
naccMTecknology: and you're not planning on submitting the patch for the official packages?00:13
MTecknologynope, it's a custom patch that lets us have some hardware talk to internal jabber servers. Not useful to anyone but us.00:15
sarnoldjust smack an "IOT!!11!" header onthe patch and send it in? :) hehe00:15
naccMTecknology: i see; i think our importer is probably what you want (you can then use git to rebase your changes as new versions publish in xenial, etc.) -- you can run the importer yourself, fwiw, and push to your own git tree00:16
MTecknologyAny chance you know of anything that could explain that workflow to me?00:19
naccMTecknology: the email i sent above and there is a wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging/GitWorkflow00:25
MTecknologynice, thanks!00:26
naccMTecknology: feel free to ping me here if you have questions00:26
rbasaknacc: iproute2 merge> yes, though I'd ask apw, as the fan support delta is a feature addition.00:29
naccrbasak: will do!00:32
naccapw: --^ :) just fyi, was wondering about merging iproute200:33
rbasakDo the old style "Ubuntu core" images not exist any more? I see them on old-releases.u.c, but on the current releases.u.c, the Snappy Ubuntu Core images seem to have taken over the URL.01:21
jgrimmrbasak, https://partner-images.canonical.com/core/   may be what you are looking for?01:29
rbasakjgrimm: I think that might be it. Thanks!01:35
jgrimmrbasak, no worries; I just happened to know because that's where ubuntu docker image building pulls from.01:48
sarnoldthe permissions on pool/universe/o/opl3-soundfont/ look funny to me; my mirror made it mode 700 instead of 75501:50
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chilukinfinity: who's responsible for archive pocket copies ?  looks like transcode got missed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transcode/+bug/1645556 ...04:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1645556 in transcode (Ubuntu) "Yakkety: transcode is not available, but is referred to by another package." [Undecided,New]04:34
chilukis this something I can do?04:34
ginggschiluk: transcode is in the yakkety new queue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=05:42
chilukwell that's just odd.05:43
chilukginggs: do you have powers to fix that?05:43
chilukginggs: the version there is already surpassed by what is in xenial and maybe whats in zesty.05:45
chilukI'm very confused by the versioning of this package.05:45
ginggschiluk: no, sorry. i'm guessing you need SRU team to review it05:46
chilukdoko do you mind looking at what's going on with transcode in yakkety... you seem to have touched it last in zesty.05:47
ginggschiluk: version number seem ok to me for a yakkety SRU05:47
ginggsubuntu1 > ubuntu0.1 > build405:48
chilukginggs: exactly versioning is all screwed up.05:48
chilukginggs: exactly versioning is all screwed up.05:48
chilukdebian versioning is at least -9+b1 or -9+b405:49
ginggschiluk: zesty > yakkety > build405:49
chilukwhich is sensible.05:49
chilukginggs  just because it works doesn't mean it should have been named that way.05:49
ginggschiluk: i mean zesty > yakkety > xenial which is correct05:49
ginggschiluk: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure 5.1 and the link to the security policy document05:51
chilukginggs: I've got those relatively memorized.05:52
chilukI'm just confused by why it never got approved05:52
chilukI'll harass the sru team tomorrow when they wake up..05:53
chilukginggs I should have checked the upload queue before opening a bug, but I'm surprised the xenial version didn't just get pocket copied when yakkety was openned .. do you know that answer?05:54
chilukI'm still trying to learn all this .05:54
ginggschiluk: it was removed because it FTBFS with the new ffmpeg in yakkety05:55
chilukah..05:55
chilukok .05:55
chilukthat makes sense.05:55
ginggschiluk: and being removed from debian testing didn't help05:56
chilukginggs: how are you finding that info?05:56
* chiluk learning.05:56
ginggschiluk: see comment 8 in LP: #1631796 and news in https://packages.qa.debian.org/t/transcode.html05:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1631796 in transcode (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Yakkety version of transcode needed (removal causes unmet dependencies)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163179605:57
chilukYeah just saw that bug ginggs.. I assume you marked my bug as a duplicate ..06:00
ginggschiluk: yes, that was me06:00
chilukginggs: do you know why that bug doesn't show up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transcode06:01
ginggschiluk: not sure06:04
chilukmaybe I'll open a bug against launchpad.... that seems like that should work.06:05
pittiGood morning06:39
ScottKchiluk: It doesn't show up because it's marked fixed released in the development version.  That's normal and expected.06:50
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stubIs zfs root partition support in the installer being worked on for zesty?10:20
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mapreripitti: pbuilder autopkgtests have been failing recently on armhf, with this error:12:25
maprerimknod: /var/cache/pbuilder/build/3059/test-dev-null: Operation not permitted12:25
mapreriE: Cannot install into target '/var/cache/pbuilder/build/3059' mounted with noexec or nodev12:25
mapreriShall I suppose that has something to do with the test bed?12:26
mapreri(+ did somebody forced debootstrap and ubuntu-keyring in without caring to clear this failure?)12:27
pittimapreri: yes it does; apparently this doesn't work in lxd, while it still worked in lxc12:27
mapreriumh12:27
mapreriand only for armhf?12:27
pittiyes; s390x runs in lxc (without apparmor restrictions), i386/amd64/ppc64el run in full VMs12:28
mapreriic12:28
pittimapreri: so I figure "ignore" it is, I'll add a hint12:28
mapreripitti: I suppose, if you don't have a fix pending... Thanks12:29
Saviqseb128, hey, IIUC you were working on "themes" interface at some point, is there anything I could read up on that?12:51
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pittiseb128: what's the word on zesty langpacks?12:58
seb128pitti, sorry, got busy on other things and didn't get back to pinging wgrant about it, thanks for the reminder13:00
ginggspitti: hi, recent versions of eigen3 and freecad have been failing autopkg tests on ppc64el and freecad on s390x as well for some months, except for when i included a patch to disable just those failing tests. do i keep applying the patch, or can you mark those 'always failed'?13:01
seb128Saviq, not really "working" on it, more listing theme as something we might want to share/integrate with but it's not an easy topic since there isn't a 1-to-1 matching with a toolkit stack/version or with the machine you integrate with13:01
Saviqseb128, good enough for us, anywhere I can point to some reading/considerations about it?13:02
seb128Saviq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/157630013:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1576300 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Has no integration with system icon themes" [Undecided,New]13:03
seb128Saviq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/158278413:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1582784 in Snappy "No support for icons and themes snaps" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:04
Saviqseb128, ack, thanks!13:04
seb128yw!13:04
seb128Saviq, but there was no proper discussion recorded I think, I mostly had IRC chats about it and some 1-to-1 offtrack discussions with e.g Didier13:05
Saviqack13:05
pittiginggs: better drop the delta and we add a hint13:42
pittiginggs: eigen3 looks fine on s390x though? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/eigen3/zesty/s390x13:43
ginggspitti: yes, only freecad on s390x as well13:44
pittiforce-badtest eigen3/3.3~beta2-2ubuntu2/ppc64el13:44
pittiginggs: ^ ah, we already had a hint, just need to bump it13:44
pittiginggs: hints added13:45
ginggspitti: ok thanks, but this requires some manual action everytime?  is it possible to reset it to 'always failed'?13:46
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pittiginggs: we can remove the existing results, but not as long as the "working" version (with the failing test patched out) is still current in zesty13:48
ginggsok, so you could do for eigen3 now, but not for freecad13:50
pitti eigen3  | 3.3~beta2-2ubuntu2  | zesty/universe          | source13:50
pitti eigen3  | 3.3.0-1             | zesty-proposed/universe | source13:50
pittinot yet13:50
ginggsiirc 3.3~beta2-2ubuntu2 doesn't have that patch to skip the failing tests13:51
hallynso where do i look for help with weird font issue?  we dont' have a font "server" any more right?15:33
hallynafter a certain random amount of time, certain applications (like pasaffe) will show garbage for text, like http://people.ubuntu.com/~serge-hallyn/brokenfonts.png15:34
dobeyhallyn: intel video?15:44
hallynyeah15:46
hallynthinkpad t440s. didn't even think of that15:46
hallyndobey: any known workarounds? :)15:49
hallynsforshee: ^ is that something you've heard of before?15:50
dobeyhallyn: don't know. just saw this recently on g+ so seemed relevant: https://plus.google.com/+philipperoux/posts/M41cozsF37J?sfc=true15:52
hallynoh, yeah15:53
hallynthat's exactly it15:53
naccbdmurray: i don't think my bind9 upload to xenial is the source of the uptick in bind9 bugs -- https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2016.04&package=bind9&period=day&version=1%3A9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.3 (the first is also seen with 16.10 and the latter two don' seem to have antying to do with bind9-resolvconf?)16:00
naccrbasak: --^ as well, in case you have time to look16:01
hallyndobey: hm, one person suggests 16.10 would fix it.  but that's too systemd-entrenched, not sure i can do that.  maybe if i run yakkety kernel though16:02
bdmurraynacc: Okay, I'll override it.  Thanks for looking.16:04
naccbdmurray: np!16:04
naccbdmurray: thank you!16:04
hallynhate g+, can't comment on it16:04
dobeyhallyn: yeah, is the HWE stack ready yet? or in a PPA or something for testing?16:05
hallynno tyet16:07
dobeytoo bad. i could use the new x/mesa myself, for my amd card :)16:11
hallynhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-November/000215.html16:16
dobeynice16:18
dobeyanyway, time to get some lunch16:19
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jbichaany core dev interested in updating all the seeds for the system-config-printer transition? see the last comment on bug 164312917:22
ubottubug 1643129 in Ubuntu GNOME "Drop system-config-printer-gnome package" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164312917:22
naccjbicha: can't you do MRs against the appropriate bzr branch(es)?17:23
jbichanacc: sure, that sounds like a good idea17:24
naccjbicha: i only suggest that, as that's what I did in the past when I didn't have appropriate permissions for the server seeds -- do you have a link to the bzr repository handy? I can find it, if not17:25
jbichayes, they should all be at https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds17:25
naccjbicha: yeah17:25
rbasakjbicha: you can point to the MP in your core dev application :-)17:26
naccheh17:27
jbichahmm, I often delete old bzr branches and MPs once they've been merged17:30
rbasakchrisccoulson: do you know about bug 1643467? Regression from your firefox upload to Trusty.17:37
ubottubug 1643467 in libav (Ubuntu) "Firefox 50 blocks Ubuntu 14.04 LTS's version of libavcodec" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164346717:37
chrisccoulsonrbasak, yeah, I guess someone needs to update libav. It's in universe though17:43
rbasakThat's puzzling. Should Firefox (in main) be using libav (in universe)?17:44
chrisccoulsonrbasak, it's completely optional for h264 support. Firefox doesn't depend on it17:45
rbasakStill, a vulnerability in libav would make Firefox vulnerable, no?17:45
rbasakIsn't that against the spirit of the main/universe split?17:45
rbasakThough I suppose users know that because libav is in universe.17:46
rbasakchrisccoulson: would you mind explaining the situation in the bug please?17:46
dobey17:35:22 dh: unable to load addon cli: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/cli.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Debian::Debhelper::Sequence::cli module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.18.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.18.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.18 /usr/share/perl/5.18 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 16) line 2.17:49
dobey^^ what does this come from?17:49
naccdobey: are you missing cli-common-dev ?17:50
nacccli-common-dev: /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/cli.pm17:50
nacc(that's from 16.10)17:51
dobeynacc: yes, well it's a jenkins job which tries to build the source package. hadn't come across that dep before. thankls17:51
dobeythanks17:51
naccdobey: ah ok, presumably it's a missing build-dep then? maybe something changed in the dep-chain so it's not getting pulled in auomatically, if it's a regression17:52
dobeynacc: bzr bd doesn't automatically install build deps17:52
naccdobey: oh i see17:53
dobeyand most of them aren't needed. only the debhelper ones need to be pre-installed really. so we have to list certain debhelper-providing packages in our config and ensure they are installed in jenkins :-/17:55
naccdobey: right, I can see why that would be necessary17:59
infinitychiluk: It has nothing to do with anyone (or thing) failing to copy it forward, it was removed.18:12
chilukthanks for the response infinity... I got it figured out yesterday once I found the related bug.18:12
chilukinfinity while I have you, aren't you on the sru team?18:13
chilukwell I guess I just need another core dev.. can you approve the transcode upload that's in queue for yakkety..18:13
chilukinfinity.. not having mythfrontend working is pissing off my wife.18:13
infinitychiluk: You were right the first time, you need an SRU person.18:14
chiluknuts...18:14
infinity(which I am)18:14
chilukinfinity can you approve it please..18:15
infinitychiluk: How about I review it first? :P18:15
chilukalso doable..18:15
infinitychiluk: Done.18:18
chilukinfinity: thanks sir...18:18
naccjgrimm: keepalived uploaded18:46
jgrimmnacc, thanks sir18:52
naccjgrimm: np, and sru template updated, so we should be good on that bug now18:53
jgrimmack18:53
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dmj_s76sforshee: I think I've found an issue with the linux-firmware package that's affecting a number of users, and will hit more when the next kernel update lands.  On a particular Kaby Lake laptop, updating the initramfs with (current) version 1.157.5 of the linux-firmware package installed causes broken sound behavior.22:10
dmj_s76In particular volume control doesn't work, hdmi devices show in the sound settings gui, and there's dmesg output relating to problems with snd_hda_codec_hdmi22:12
dmj_s76The laptop uses U-series Kaby Lake processors with a 100 series Sunrise Point chipset.22:14
sforsheedmj_s76: will you please file a bug with that information and assign it to me?22:18
dmj_s76The current theory is that the /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin22:20
dmj_s76sure22:20
dmj_s76Oh, and the bug only manifests on xenial, not yakkety.22:21
sforsheedmj_s76: thanks. I'll follow up on the bug tomorrow.22:21
dmj_s76sforshee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/164591123:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1645911 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "linux-firmware package causes sound issues with after initramfs update" [Undecided,New]23:32
chilukcan I get a sponsor for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/1634304... not sure if I should backport to trusty as well.23:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1634304 in virt-manager (Ubuntu) "Unable to complete install: 'Couldn't find hvm kernel for Ubuntu tree" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:42
sarnoldhey chiluk :) that yakkety debdiff looks busted, all changelog and no code23:46
naccmdeslaur: i'm still working my way through the php-imagick regression with imagemagick -- the merge didn't fix it, unfortunately. It looks like there is a bug there for sure. Annoyingly, running `make test` from the same source does work (except for one common failure to both cases).23:48

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