[00:00] <Razer_Chroma> hi everyone
[00:01] <Razer_Chroma> Does anyone knows how to fix Razer Chroma DA on Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:01] <Razer_Chroma> The buttons stop responding somethimes
[00:02] <rvinkovic> tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/VcAmDT20 this?
[00:02] <Razer_Chroma> but switching to another mouse the problem seems to fix
[00:02] <Bashing-om> linux_user: What returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[00:03] <Razer_Chroma> Prompt=lts
[00:03] <Razer_Chroma> oh, sorry Bashing-om I thout was for me, my bad
[00:05] <Bashing-om> Razer_Chroma: NP .. as to your mouse issue , sorry I can not help there .
[00:20] <incognito-dg> Jordon_U: my end goal is to have a computer where I can test out multiple OSs. I don't want a dual boot, but quadruple boot. Ubuntu will be the first (actually already have windows 10 on the system, but I won't really be using that) I want to set up about 3 different distros to run VMs in for Web dev, but I want to be able to have one data partition for all including the VMs. What I don't know is if I can save data to a sep
[00:20] <incognito-dg> arate partition when using a VM.
[00:21] <incognito-dg> CentOS, Ubuntu maybe even BSD
[00:24] <OerHeks> incognito-dg, sounds like you have your plan ready, go for it
[00:30] <angeltrusty1404l> hello everyone how I can install the drivers for the Intel HD Graphics 520 card (Skylake GT2) on Ubuntu 14.04.5
[00:32] <OerHeks> that fresh GPu needs kernel 4.8 with supported intel drivers IIRC, install 16.10
[00:33] <angeltrusty1404l> OerHeks, for ubuntu 14.04.5 the drives is out?
[00:33] <OerHeks> ?
[00:33] <dave0x6d> Jordan_U: boot-repair converted my system to EFI nicely.
[00:33] <OerHeks> angeltrusty1404l, not that i know of
[00:34] <OerHeks> angeltrusty1404l, i am not going to advise to use the drivers from the intel site, then you are on your own
[00:39] <Bashing-om> andywork: I am aware that installing the 4.7 kerenel has worked in some cases : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333832#post13531896 .
[00:39] <Bashing-om> angeltrusty1404l: ^^ sorry andywork .
[00:40] <andywork> np man
[00:44] <knittel> Good morning all
[00:44] <knittel> what is this and how can i resolve this?
[00:44] <knittel> N: « 50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist » dans le répertoire « /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ » a été ignoré car il utilise une extension non valable
[00:44] <knittel> E: L'opération updates n'est pas valable
[00:45] <sharkman> i was trying to get openvpn working earlier, and i somehow broke my internet.  my computer thinks its connected to wifi (next to me), but it cannot ping google
[00:45] <sharkman> help please?
[00:46] <OerHeks> knittel, is this 16.04 lts or 16.10?
[00:46] <nacc> knittel: at some point, you told apt (dpkg) to upgrade the unattend-upgrades package and (iirc) not take the distribution version of the conf file, perhaps backing it up (I can't recall if it does that by default when you select that option). So it created a file with an invalid suffix in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory. It's just a notice (note N: )
[00:46] <knittel> 16.04
[00:46] <nacc> knittel: that file will be ignored, as it says -- so you can either delete the file, after confirming you don't want to take whatever changes were in it, or you can leave it and ignore the warning
[00:47] <knittel> that i was guess already, but tx for say that
[00:47] <knittel> i was thi nking to still get the updates if i can
[00:47] <knittel> i'm not yet do know what i can ignore and what not
[00:48] <nacc> knittel: and yes, you will; but you gave an invalid subcommand?
[00:48] <nacc> knittel: i don't know what command you ran to get that message, since you only provided the warning text(s)
[00:48] <knittel> it was un update from 15.10 to 16.xx
[00:48] <knittel> and yes i guess i chose the wrong line
[00:49] <knittel> it was a multiple choice question so to say & not easy to read
[00:49] <nacc> knittel: right, and that was an eol upgrade, too, so there can be issues there
[00:49] <nacc> knittel: not necessarily wrong, btw
[00:49] <knittel> i did the update by synaptic i think so
[00:49] <knittel> so the terminal only showed me what it did
[00:50] <knittel> without asking
[00:50] <nacc> knittel: that is to say, there's nothing wrong inherently with saying you don't want a distribution's conf file, if you had local modifications
[00:51] <knittel> ok, i leave it then because i dont have the command
[00:51] <nacc> knittel: what command?
[00:51] <knittel> so understandeble you guys can not help me out
[00:51] <knittel> not a prob yet
[00:52] <knittel> so as told i installed by logiciels et mises a jour de upgrade
[00:52] <knittel> and i opened the terminal only to follow the process
[00:53] <knittel> its quite different then wi ndows :)
[00:53] <knittel> but i like it
[00:54] <knittel> its a complete new world :)
[00:56] <nfisher> hi all
[00:58] <guest170> Hey all. Still having trouble with booting into 14.04 LTS. Recently attempted adding nomodeset to grub, hasn't fixed it.
[00:58] <guest170> previously posting as 'Gimmickless', now using IRC on phone.
[00:58] <nfisher> so I have this 2 boxes of ubuntu running with mate desktop environment and was wondering/(and strongly hoping!) that it would be possible to have the 2nd's boxes desktop as my second desktop on the left (workspace 2). Would that in any way be possible?
[01:03] <guest170> The problem: Ubuntu boots up to the splash screen, but cuts out to a black screen with an unblinking cursor after a couple seconds. ALT-CTRL-F# doesn't work for all values of #.
[01:04] <nfisher> *of the first box evidently
[01:07] <OerHeks> nfisher, synergy perhaps ?https://symless.com/synergy/
[01:07] <OerHeks> !info synergy
[01:07] <blackflow> gimmickless: it's a known bug. reboot, enter boot menu and remove "splash quiet" from the kernel line.
[01:08] <nfisher> OerHeks, hmk thanks for the suggestion, ill check it out
[01:12] <doggu> [ubuntu] One version of Ubuntu running on two different machines - redd.it/Ubuntu
[01:12] <OerHeks> doggu, please no bots here
[01:17] <Alan-r> Hi!    I am trying to install Ubuntu 16.10 on a Thinkpad S431.    I booted the installer off of USB, and it freezes on the "Setting up the partitioner" step.     How can I get Ubuntu installed?
[01:17] <knittel> good morning oerheks
[01:18] <knittel> trhy from dvd Alan?
[01:19] <Alan-r> This computer does not have a DVD drive.
[01:19] <knittel> dont know then, sorry, i have installedfrom dvd
[01:19] <knittel> not by key
[01:20] <knittel> and if a computer have not dvd rom i use an external
[01:20] <OerHeks> i installed ubuntu since 2009 with the same usb stick
[01:21] <knittel> then you can explain to alan oer :)
[01:21] <Alan-r> I guess I will need to get an external DVD drive.
[01:21] <OerHeks> Alan-r, did you make free space before booting?
[01:22] <Alan-r> No, the hard drive has a 15 gig NTFS partition that I want to use.   But did not get the chance since it crashed as partitioner was starting.
[01:23] <OerHeks> i think you have 4 primairy partitions already, the installer does not like that
[01:24] <OerHeks> Alan-r, boot in live mode, remove this ntfs, as ubuntu cannot install on that anyway
[01:25] <Alan-r> How do I boot in live mode?     I did not see that option.
[01:25] <Alan-r> I have the normal Ubuntu 16.10 ISO.
[01:26] <OerHeks> Sure you passed that screen, install ubuntu <> try ubuntu
[01:26] <gimmickless> blackflow: Something seems wrong. I followed your suggestion and ran update-grub. The splash screen still shows up. That should not be, I don't think.
[01:28] <knittel> i'm permitted a question oerheks?
[01:28] <knittel> i have 1 hdd, 1 tb
[01:29] <knittel> can i run 3 linux on that disk and have only 1 swap partition?
[01:29] <Alan-r> I do not have the Try Ubuntu option.    I can Install Ubuntu Server, Test Memory, Boot from first hard disk, Rescue a broken system.
[01:29] <glitchd> knittel, i believe you can as long as you shut down before switching distros
[01:29] <OerHeks> knittel, never done that myself, but is should be possible
[01:30] <glitchd> knittel, swap cannot be accessed by an install if another install is currently using it
[01:30] <knittel> in the past i had a lot of compuetrs, now only one
[01:30] <OerHeks> glitchd +1  don't use hybernate/sleep then
[01:30] <knittel> so i need to be careful :)
[01:30] <knittel> where could i find that?
[01:30] <glitchd> OerHeks, #winning lol
[01:30] <knittel> anyway its just experimenting to see what is possible or not
[01:31] <knittel> and also to look wich distribution i like most
[01:31] <knittel> i see, glitch, but anyway 1 computer can not run 2 OS in The same time
[01:31] <knittel> at lezast i have never done that :)
[01:31] <glitchd> knittel, right..
[01:32] <glitchd> knittel, well actually, you can. its not suggested, but it is possible
[01:32] <OerHeks> with 1 Tb i would not create headaches if your ram is just 4gb/8gb
[01:32] <knittel> 2 gb :(
[01:32] <knittel> my ram is sh..
[01:32] <Alan-r> My Ubuntu installer does not have a Try Ubuntu option.     Do I have the wrong ISO?
[01:32] <glitchd> knittel, upgrade
[01:33] <knittel> but i know about 32 bits and that stuff
[01:33] <glitchd> Alan-r, yep
[01:33] <knittel> my distros are i386
[01:33] <glitchd> knittel, but do you have a 32 bit cpu
[01:33] <toofoo> I'd been installing ubuntu 16.10 a number of times in a vmware vm. It's hit or miss that files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/* are corrupt. I saw many references to this through google-foo. Is it common to randomly have this corruption?
[01:33] <knittel> onjly i have a nice big hdd thats all :)
[01:33] <knittel> and some knowledge, but windows based
[01:33] <Alan-r> Ok!    Which ISO do I need for a live USB system?
[01:34] <glitchd> Alan-r, just download and install unetbootin
[01:34] <OerHeks> Alan-r, install/live is one iso, this screen > https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/49a92ce6-install_1.jpg
[01:35] <Alan-r> Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
[01:35] <glitchd> OerHeks, yes that is correct but is is possible to download an iso and not be given the option to boot a live session
[01:35] <glitchd> OerHeks, there is a right and a wrong iso for the live session option
[01:36] <edemco> I've been directed to ask about how to determine a "package" for a bug report. Am I in the right place?
[01:36] <OerHeks> glitchd, ?? huh ?? there is no right/wrong iso, and no, i have no knowledge of not booting live iso
[01:36] <OerHeks> edemco, for ubuntu, yes.
[01:36] <edemco> ubuntu 16.04
[01:37] <glitchd> OerHeks, there have been occatoins when i have downloaded an ubuntu iso, burned it to either a usb or a cd, booted it and not been given the option to boot a live session
[01:37] <edemco> I have an issue with not being able to use my HDMI output connection
[01:37] <edemco> How do I determine the package connected with this bug?
[01:38] <OerHeks> edemco, hdmi monitor connected before boot? does your laptop ( i presume) have a FN key internal screen/external screen/both ?
[01:39] <OerHeks> else the package you want to file a bug against, would be the videodriver i guess
[01:39] <glitchd> edemco, how are you sure that its the package preventing you from using hdmi output?
[01:40] <edemco> ... after boot. There is a Fn key, but it does not work to make the external monitor light up.
[01:40] <glitchd> edemco, have you checked your bios for any relevent options?
[01:41] <edemco> I've checked the drivers (intel card) and made sure they were correct. I've also checked using xrandr.
[01:41] <edemco> BIOS are correct.
[01:41] <OerHeks> try to boot with hdmi connected
[01:41] <glitchd> what distro are yo using by chance?
[01:41] <edemco> Everything was working with 14.04, but not after upgrade.
[01:42] <glitchd> edemco, have you tried booting a live cd to see if it works in there?
[01:42] <edemco> Pretty sure that it's a driver issue.
[01:42] <edemco> Yes, tried Live CD with no difference.
[01:43] <ModusPonens> check first from monitors on Unity Contro Center
[01:43] <OerHeks> to see what driver is in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[01:43] <ModusPonens> maybe XF86Whateverkey not binded
[01:44] <edemco> Also tried upgrading the kernel, with no change.
[01:45] <linuxlite>  
[01:45] <edemco> Used the Intel driver updater to make sure that the driver was right and installed properly.
[01:45] <glitchd> linuxlite, awesome question
[01:46] <OerHeks> edemco, uh oh, intel driver from their site? not supported in ubuntu ..
[01:47] <OerHeks> file a bug to the intel site then, not sure how
[01:48] <edemco> Well ... according to what has been published, the intel driver is packaged with 16.04 and is the same as the driver that intel uses in the driver updater.
[01:48] <edemco> There was not change. The driver is i915.
[01:49] <_28_ria> lambertu: hello
[01:49] <edemco> still, I think it's a driver problem.
[01:50] <_28_ria> lambertu: chromium doesn't have the problem, that FireFox has with video playing on youtube.
[01:50] <glitchd> _28_ria, have a question?
[01:51] <_28_ria> glitchd: yes
[01:51] <glitchd> ..?
[01:52] <gimmickless> Dangit, grub, why won't you stop using the splash screen when I tell you to?
[01:52] <Razer_Chroma> hi guys, sorry I was away...
[01:53] <Razer_Chroma> I dont know the fix about the razer chroma not working perfectly on ubuntu 16.04 but using another mouse really solved the issue.
[01:53] <glitchd> gimmickless, did u update grub after setting the option not to use the splash screen?
[01:53] <Razer_Chroma> Ill email razer about that
[01:54] <gimmickless> glitchd, with sudo and everything
[01:55] <_28_ria> glitchd: after firefox got upgraded to V50, my videos on youtube started jurking. Not right away. They play fine in the beginning, but it takes one computer load spike, like, for example, switch a window or make a bookmark, or something else, that spikes the processor quickly, the video starts jerking and nothing, even reloading page doesn't restore the video back to normal, until I close FF and r
[01:55] <xangua> Using Lubuntu 16.04 but this also happened with xubuntu, after computer enters in suspend and I try I try to come back the screen remains black
[01:55] <_28_ria> glitchd: eopen it again. It looks like, it's playing and every half a second it flashes several frames of the video from the time of spike. I tried to tweak opengl, graphics settings, compiz, no settings seem to make any difference. And I've rebooted several times already.
[01:55] <_28_ria> glitchd: I have a standard opensource nVidia drivers since the ubuntu 16.04 removed the proprietary drivers. Java is installed. Video acceleration is enabled, I think, but I don't know how to check, except, that I think Unity wouldn't work without acceleration. my system is set to get updated daily. chromium doesn't have the problem, that FireFox has with video playing on youtube.
[01:56] <edemco> Can I pin this HDMI problem on a particular package?
[01:56] <xangua> _28_ria: you could try to run unity in low graphics mode
[01:57] <_28_ria> xangua: how do I do it?
[01:57] <gimmickless> good news is, I was able to mash ESC in time to log into terminal mode. Now running apt-get update just in case.
[01:57] <glitchd> _28_ria, have you tried purging and reinstalling ff?
[01:58] <glitchd> gimmickless, try removing then purging and reinstall ff
[01:58] <xangua> _28_ria: sudo apt install compiz-settings-manager , search for the"unity"plugin and in the bottom you will find the option
[01:58] <glitchd> gimmickless, maybe something got mucked up in the config files somewhere..
[01:58] <xangua> glitchd: what is reinstalling supposed to do?
[01:59] <glitchd> xangua, read my last reply and youll find out
[01:59] <_28_ria> glitchd: no, It just got autoupdated. In the previous version, it didn't have this problem. Will purge delete my FF profile?
[01:59] <glitchd> _28_ria, more than likely, yes
[01:59] <glitchd> _28_ria, but you can move it, then reinstall and move it back
[02:00] <gimmickless> glitchd, ff = firefox?
[02:00] <glitchd> yes
[02:01] <_28_ria> xangua: Ah, I was looking through unity plugin in compiz, but didn't notice the low graphics option. Thanx, I will try and see if it helps
[02:01] <gimmickless> of all the programs that could bork up a boot program, I would not expect a web browser to cause it. will try anyway after rebooting post-update.
[02:01] <glitchd> gimmickless, wait, what?
[02:02] <glitchd> gimmickless, that was a typo and it was meant for _28_ria
[02:02] <gimmickless> haha! figured as much.
[02:03] <glitchd> gimmickless, sry i didnt catch it
[02:03] <glitchd> gimmickless, good thing you did
[02:03] <gimmickless> np
[02:06] <_28_ria> xangua: Does enabling low graphics mode in Unity just makes Unity to put less load on graphics card and but the card will still accelerate videos and games, or it will disable acceleration and games, that require acceleration will not play properly?
[02:08] <_28_ria> xangua: I mean, does it switch the graphics to some compatibility mode or it will just lower the bells and whistles in Unity itself?
[02:09] <gimmickless> Okay, splash screen still comes up even when I told it to. ESC gets me into command line login.
[02:09] <edemco> OerHeks, any idea how to identify the "package name" for a HDMI output problem?
[02:10] <gimmickless> *told it not to
[02:10] <Bray90820> So I am here using the intel graphics driver on 16.10 and am getting some errors "The public key is not available"
[02:11] <Jordan_U> Bray90820: When are you seeing this error message?
[02:12] <gimmickless> startx fails either when initializing built-in extension DRI2 or loading extension GLX ("Fatal server error: no screens found")
[02:13] <Bray90820> Jordan_U: In the intel graphics tool when I try to install the driver
[02:14] <edemco> I see that Bray90820 used the intel graphics tool as well.
[02:14] <Bray90820> Eddinn: ?
[02:15] <xangua> _28_ria: if what you want us having a better performance on videos or games maybe you should switch to a lighter desktop environment like xfce
[02:15] <espana> ciao
[02:18] <sector327> Gentlmen! (or gentlepeople I suppose), I just switched VPN providers and this provider has over 100 different connections you can use. Is there a way to import them ALL, populating my username/pwd into the network config manager? Currently it looks like I have to go into network manager and import each one seperately. Surely there;s a way to import them all. (using gnome network manager in unity). described here -
[02:18] <sector327> https://nordvpn.com/tutorials/linux/openvpn/
[02:18] <gurjar> hello
[02:19] <sector327> gurjar, hello back to you!
[02:20] <gurjar> can anyone help me with  linux ?
[02:20] <gurjar> i want to install linux
[02:21] <gurjar> sorry wm awseome
[02:22] <Peetz0r> sector327: they actually have 1468
[02:22] <edemco> I have an issue with not being able to use my HDMI output connection and am logging a bug report after being assisted in AskUbuntu. Now I'm being asked to log it against a package name and have been directed here get help to determine the package name. How do I determine the package name?
[02:22] <sector327> Peetz0r, yeah. haha. But I just want to automate it to get a bunch to choose from
[02:22] <sector327> gurjar, the best way to install is to download the iso from ubuntu
[02:23] <Peetz0r> If you'd put them all in there, thet network-manager-applet would probably get scared and run to his mommy
[02:23] <rdh> woo compiling 4.8.11 for ubuntu...
[02:23] <Peetz0r> I'd pick 10 or so and do those manually
[02:23] <sector327> Peetz0r, I agree. just trying to automate it so I dont have to do it 10c
[02:23] <sector327> 10x
[02:23] <gurjar> i need to install wm awesome
[02:24] <sector327> gurjar, wm?
[02:24] <Peetz0r> doing 10 by and is easier than automating it ;)
[02:24] <rdh> wm = window manager
[02:24] <Peetz0r> you're probably looking for awesomewm, which is indeed a window manager
[02:25] <Peetz0r> sector327: but if you really want to automate this, I'd find or write a script that takes their ovpn files and convert those to networnmanager config files. take a look at the files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[02:26] <rdh> gurjar, looks like it is in apt...
[02:26] <backbox> Hello , I just want to buy VDSL + nbn ready modem any suggestion .
[02:26] <sector327> Peetz0r, ;) yup. looks like a bash project to me! I figured there might already be somehting written or existing. I'll write one up
[02:26] <gurjar> no its a environment
[02:26] <rdh> gurjar, yes it is
[02:27] <rdh> and you can get it : apt-get install awesome...
[02:28] <gimmickless> meanwhile, startx fails because none of the modules exist. the heck.
[02:28] <Peetz0r> a desktop environment is not really the same as a window manager, altough a window manager is often a central part of a desktop environment - you may not need (or even want) a full desktop environment if you already have a window manager and other parts to go with it
[02:28] <rdh> gurjar, you can have multiple environments installed at once, and your login manager will allow you to select which to load...
[02:28] <gurjar> yeah but i facing problem to install it can you help me?
[02:29] <RNeville> Hello, I have a file I'm trying to unzip in a directory, but I get the message no such file exist - even though it appears to be in directory
[02:29] <rdh> gurjar, try: sudo apt-get install awesome.
[02:29] <rdh> ..
[02:29] <gurjar> i did
[02:29] <rdh> and
[02:29] <Peetz0r> and? did it work? did it fail? if it failed, how did it fail? is there any error message?
[02:29] <Peetz0r> we really need more information to help you.
[02:30] <gurjar> next step pls ?
[02:30] <rdh> If it installed gurjar, then you need only logout, then in the login screen, choose awesome
[02:30] <gurjar> okay thanlk you \
[02:31] <squinty> RNeville,  might want to check to see if it is a zero byte (in size), maybe it didn't "download" properly
[02:32] <RNeville> thx squinty
[02:33] <RNeville> squinty, it is 22.1kb - showing under properties, so it is there
[02:34] <RNeville> trying to run this command: cd Downloads && gunzip -v ~/Downloads/linux-brprinter*
[02:34] <RNeville> but get message : no such file
[02:34] <rdh> why
[02:35] <Peetz0r> you don't have to cd into a folder and at the same time use the full path. it not the cause of the issue but anyway
[02:35] <Peetz0r> but... is it actually a gzip file? not a regular zip? of any other type or archive/compression?
[02:35] <Peetz0r> try this: file ~/Downloads/linux-brprinter*
[02:35] <RNeville> thx Peetz0r
[02:36] <squinty> RNeville, might want to try pressing the tab key for full name compleation rather than *
[02:36] <_28_ria> xangua: I see
[02:36] <Peetz0r> (file is a tool that automagically detects the file time and often some useful metadata)
[02:36] <RNeville> k squinty
[02:36] <rdh> yea using wildcard for some commands can be dangerous >.<
[02:36] <squinty> RNeville, anyways wife has just called me to supper to will leave you to the help of other rascals here.
[02:36] <RNeville> k
[02:37] <Peetz0r> and indeed what squinty says, tab completion working confirms that the file exists and also thay you specified the path correctly relative to your CWD (current working directory)
[02:37] <RNeville> tab , worked to complete file name, but same error message : "No such file or directory"
[02:37] <Peetz0r> what does file say?
[02:38] <RNeville> Peetz0r, ?
[02:38] <RNeville> cd Downloads && gunzip -v ~/Downloads/linux-brprinter-installer-2.1.1-1.gz
[02:38] <Peetz0r> try "file ~/Downloads/linux-brprinter-installer-2.1.1-1.gz"
[02:39] <Jordan_U> dave0x6d: Were you only trying to switch from BIOS to UEFI or were you really trying to use the kernel's EFI boot stub (which is not used with normal Ubuntu installations, even when using UEFI)?
[02:39] <RNeville> not following , Peetz0r
[02:40] <dave0x6d> Jordan_U: The latter. But I first used grub-efi to make sure that worked.
[02:40] <coaxial> Hi, I'm trying to install redshift. When I do, I get v1.10 from apt; but here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/redshift, it seems to say v1.11 is the one I should get. What's happening?
[02:41] <rdh> RNeville, file is a program, that helps detect files...
[02:41] <rdh> so cd Downloads
[02:41] <rdh> file linux-blah-blah.
[02:41] <RNeville> k
[02:41] <rdh> figure out if it is a proper .gz file
[02:41] <tgm4883> coaxial: what is the output of 'lsb_release -r'
[02:42] <coaxial> tgm4883: 0.4 but that's probably because I'm using elementary OS... Which is based on ubuntu from what I understand.
[02:42] <Jordan_U> dave0x6d: Any particular reason you want to use boot stub support. You could make your own dpkg hook for when new kernels are installed.
[02:42] <Jordan_U> ?
[02:43] <tgm4883> coaxial: no, elementary OS isn't supported here
[02:43] <dave0x6d> Jordan_U: Faster boot time. With a mobile i5 (dual core), I'm booting up in ~4.7 sec on the kernel now (and 1.4 in userspace). =)
[02:44] <rdh> coaxial, i dont think elementary OS is pulling from the same source as ubuntu?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> dave0x6d: What is the boot time with grub, if you remove the default 3 second delay (which allows you to enter the grub menu if you need to)?
[02:45] <dave0x6d> no idea, didn't time it. =P
[02:45] <dave0x6d> just have no need for grub on a VM.
[02:45] <MannyLNJ> Help please. I seem to have lost all write access to my home directory
[02:45] <Jordan_U> !elementary | coaxial
[02:46] <RNeville> !pastebin
[02:46] <AlecTaylor> hi
[02:46] <AlecTaylor> How do I run an upstart task every time a file changes? - Attempt: http://stackoverflow.com/q/40856355
[02:46] <dave0x6d> Jordan_U: I added a hook to automatically copy stuff to ESP, so it should be painless.
[02:46] <Jordan_U> MannyLNJ: What happens if you run "touch ~/test"?
[02:47] <MannyLNJ> Jordan_U, never mind I found the issue (I think) bash_aliases had an error. I had to remove the entry then restart the session
[02:49] <RNeville> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23551484/
[02:50] <rdh> RNeville, missing the 'z' at the end?
[02:51] <coaxial> rdh: It does pull from ubuntu xenial
[02:51] <coaxial> ubottu: thanks, I'll ask there
[02:51] <coaxial> :D
[02:51] <RNeville> rdh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23551517/
[02:51] <jdhr> ok
[02:54] <RNeville> rdh, I got gunzip to work, had something to do with using full path in the command
[02:54] <rdh> RNeville, good :)
[02:55] <RNeville> rdh, don't know why full path wouldn't work - the intricacies of Linux always seem to escape my intellect
[02:56] <rdh> RNeville, .... one second lol...
[02:56] <RNeville> I'm sure it some basic concept of CS involving the OS I don't understand
[02:56] <tomed> let's say i have ip   1.1.1.25   and let's say my neighbor use same ISP and has ip  1.1.1.27.   if somebody ddos attack me only (ip 1.1.1.25),  my internet would go down, but would my neighbor's internet go down as well?
[02:57] <Lina_222> hello)))
[02:57] <AlecTaylor> tomed: Not unless it was a supernet attack
[02:57] <AlecTaylor> Against the ISP
[02:57] <tomed> wtf is supernet attack?
[02:57] <rdh> RNeville, "UNIX is very simple, it just needs a genius to understand its simplicity", Dennis Ritchie
[02:57] <AlecTaylor> Or a DDoS attack
[02:57] <rdh> RNeville, one of my fav quotes.
[02:57] <AlecTaylor> Which might get to you depending on if the line is shared
[02:58] <tomed> alectaylor   it was   ddosattack.exe  1.1.1.25
[02:58] <AlecTaylor> (and how their load balances are configured)
[02:58] <Peetz0r> rdh: "unix is user-friendly. it's just very selective about who its friends are" - someone probably ;)
[02:58] <rdh> Peetz0r, LOL.
[02:59] <RNeville> now thats , lol - rdh
[03:00] <Jordan_U> tomed: Well, your ISP limits how much bandwidth it will allow to your IP address. If more is sent than you have paid bandwidth for, then your ISP will start dropping packets. Dropping packets is very efficient, and so I expect that it would take a serious DOS to affect your neighbor's traffic.
[03:02] <rdh> Linux 0x90 4.8.11-custom-ubuntu #1 SMP Mon Nov 28 20:58:14 EST 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:03] <Jordan_U> tomed: I guess it matters at what point they start dropping packets, but still it would require a much bigger DOS to stop you and your neighbor from being able to access the internet than it would to just stop you. For further discussion on this though, please move to ##networking.
[03:05] <_28_ria> Jordan_U: You mean DoS
[03:05] <_28_ria> Writing DOS, creates confusion with an OS
[03:07] <Peetz0r> unless you account for oversubscription (or whatever the correct term is)
[03:08] <Peetz0r> e.g. the total capacity of an area is less than the sum of the capacity of every individual connection
[03:08] <Peetz0r> often dramatically less
[03:09] <Peetz0r> e.g. I happen to know that where I live, then entire neighbourhood fiber connection goes trough a 2x 10G ring. there are 1000 houses which can all get cheap gigabit fiber if they like
[03:09] <Jordan_U> Peetz0r: Please move this discussion to ##networking as it is not Ubuntu related.
[03:10] <Peetz0r> true ;) but I could also stop because the point is made
[03:15] <MannyLNJ> If I have a GUI based program that needs to be run as root is there wa way to launch it from the application strip?
[03:16] <_28_ria> MannyLNJ: gksu name_of_gui_prog
[03:16] <_28_ria> MannyLNJ: or sudo name_of_gui_prog
[03:17] <_28_ria> MannyLNJ: either way, it's just gksu will ask for password graphically, but sudo in console.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> _28_ria: MannyLNJ: You should not use plain sudo with GUI programs as it could lead to ~/.Xauthority being owned by root, preventing you from being able to log in.
[03:18] <Jordan_U> _28_ria: Also, sudo in a launcher won't work as there is no terminal for the user to enter their password into.
[03:18] <Jordan_U> MannyLNJ: What app are you trying to run as root?
[03:18] <MannyLNJ> Jordan_U, I am trying to execute a complied program called f3-qt located in  /home/emanuel/f3-qt-master but it needs ROOT access
[03:18] <subho> Guys, I want to install a wifi adapter. But I only have windows drivers. Can I install windows drivers on Ubuntu
[03:19] <vfw> subho: Identify the adapter.
[03:20] <vfw> subho: lspci |& nc termbin.com 9999
[03:20] <vfw> subho: Send us the resulting URL
[03:20] <Jordan_U> MannyLNJ: What is f3-qt and why does it need to be run as root?
[03:21] <vfw> subho: Tell us the make and model.
[03:21] <newbie|3> does any body know why the online store shutdown or quits when opening up right a way?
[03:21] <vfw> subho: You more-than-likely do not need to install drivers.
[03:21] <newbie|3> using ubunut 16.04 64bit
[03:22] <subho> vfw: http://termbin.com/lucf
[03:22] <MannyLNJ> Jordan_U, f3-qt is a GUI interface to the F3 suite. F3 allows you to test flash drives to see if the quoted capacity is correct. I collect novelty flash drives and many of them are 16GB drives programed to report as 32GB or larger.
[03:22] <subho> vfw: But, in windows I can create a AP hotspot
[03:22] <MannyLNJ> Jordan_U, more info at http://oss.digirati.com.br/f3/
[03:22] <Peetz0r> MannyLNJ: wow. I was expecting fake flashdrives to be smaller, lige 2GB or 4GB ;)
[03:23] <subho> vfw: While in linux it shows device dowsn't support AP mode
[03:23] <subho> vfw : I suppose it's driver problem
[03:23] <MannyLNJ> Peetz0r, most of the fake ones are 14-16GB. I get them from wish.com and when I show they are counterfit I get my money back.
[03:23] <vfw> subho: You don't have it installed right now, do you?
[03:24] <subho> vfw: I have it inserted in the USB port, but not specifically installed the drivers
[03:24] <newbie|3> does any body know why the online store shutdown or quits when opening up right a way?
[03:24] <newbie|3> does any body know why the online store shutdown or quits when opening up right a way?
[03:24] <newbie|3> does any body know why the online store shutdown or quits when opening up right a way?
[03:24] <newbie|3> does any body know why the online store shutdown or quits when opening up right a way?
[03:24] <subho> vfw: Cause I couldn't find any
[03:25] <vfw> subho: So, what is the make and model?
[03:25] <Jordan_U> MannyLNJ: Then gksu would indeed be the solution.
[03:26] <vfw> subho: lsusb |& nc termbin.com 9999
[03:26] <vfw> subho: Send us resulting URL
[03:26] <ox1de> query= on boot my laptop displays boot screen and then screen is dark... what do i do?
[03:27] <MannyLNJ> Jordan_U, great I see how to launch gksu from a terminal but how do I add it to the bar on the left side?
[03:29] <faekjarz> Hey there! I have an i7-4790 CPU, a quad core with HT, 4 cores, 8 threads. In load measuring tools those 8 threads are treated as if they were full cores. Here's my question: How do i know which thread runs on which core - t0 & t1 = c0, t2 & t3 = c1, ... - anyone stumbled across documentation? (This is not about process management, as in a running application. I'm talking "processing pipelines".)
[03:29] <Jordan_U> MannyLNJ: You need to create a launcher for it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher
[03:29] <vfw> subho: Can you tell us what WiFi device you have?
[03:30] <subho> vfw: I am giving you the link. Just a moment
[03:30] <subho> vfw: http://www.ebay.in/itm/600-Mbps-RT5370-USB-WiFi-Adapter-Wireless-WiFi-Dongle-With-External-Antenna-WiFi-/331863400698?
[03:30] <subho> Thats it.
[03:31] <subho> vfw: I think it's model is RT5370
[03:31] <vfw> subho: iwconfig |& nc termbin.com 9999  #Send resulting URL
[03:33] <subho> vfw: I did it yesterday. Send it to you only. It looks as if its working. But since I can't create AP, so there must be some problem.
[03:33] <subho> Anyways : http://termbin.com/hdc1
[03:34] <nacc> faekjarz: you generally don't care :)
[03:35] <nacc> faekjarz: but you'd probably get that from lscpu and the threads per core and cores per socket value(s)
[03:36] <vfw> subho: That's strange, it appears to be working but not showing in the output of lspci.
[03:37] <vfw> subho: But I'm not sure that this particular device is fully supported in Linux.  Is this a desktop computer? Or a laptop?
[03:38] <subho> Its desktop.
[03:38] <subho> When I boought it on ebay it says supported in Linux
[03:38] <faekjarz> nacc: oh, i do care. That's why I'd like to prove my theory, and identify which thread runs on which core. ;) lscpu is new to me and produces an interesting report, but it doesn't tell the thread number to core relation *reads the manpage*
[03:39] <subho> They did provide me with a download link for linux. I did download the files.
[03:39] <subho> However can't install it
[03:39] <subho> Since no run or config files
[03:39] <subho> so typing ./config produces a page full of errors
[03:40] <OerHeks> faekjarz, i doubt it will be one core these days, this might help http://stackoverflow.com/a/11450459
[03:40] <vfw> subho: Where did you get the software?  What is the name of the file?
[03:41] <subho> vfw: I can give you the download link. It's just 2 mb.
[03:41] <subho> vfw: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hifqv9zkhfu2cw0/DPO_MT7601U_LinuxSTA_3.0.0.4_20130913.tar.bz2?dl=0
[03:42] <subho> vfw: oh, right its a mediatek device
[03:43] <vfw> subho: In order to compile from source on a Ubuntu system you must first install build-essential package:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:44] <subho> vfw: It shows my build-essential is already up to date
[03:44] <faekjarz> OerHeks: thanks for the effort. but nope, i'm talking about hardware processing pipelines (8 cores, that are actually 4 w/ HT), not process management (no pids involed here)
[03:45] <ox1de> any advice?
[03:45] <subho> vfw: I did follow some tutorials on the net. They all finally do the same i.e. ./config , sudo make , make instal
[03:45] <OerHeks> faekjarz, no PID? then there is no process going on.
[03:46] <OerHeks> read carefull what you just asked :-D
[03:47] <subho> vfw: Could you download the file and see as to hoe to install it??
[03:48] <vfw> subho: Did you uncompress the file?
[03:49] <subho> vfw: Yes I did. But there are no such files as config
[03:49] <vfw> subho: tar zxvf DPO_MT7601U_LinuxSTA_3.0.0.4_20130913.tar.bz2
[03:50] <faekjarz> OerHeks: ok, there're two types of threads: Type A is a process, sub-process, parallel process, that runs in the kernel, and has a PID. Type B is related to Intels Hyper-Treading tech, 4 cores w/ HT = 8 logical cores, or as a mater of speaking 8 threads. (i think our misunderstanding is caused by redundant nomenclature) :)
[03:50] <vfw> subho: Did you cd to the resulting directory?
[03:50] <subho> vfw: Yes I did
[03:50] <vfw> subho: ./configure
[03:50] <ox1de> problem solved
[03:50] <ox1de> bye
[03:51] <subho> vfw: When I do that it produces huge no. of errors
[03:51] <jcsh> good day all
[03:52] <subho> And ls -a the directory, there are no ./configure files
[03:52] <vfw> subho: ./configure |& nc termbin.com 9999
[03:52] <OerHeks> subho, no configure indeed, but a make-file, pretty clear howto in that folder > README_STA_usb with steps to do
[03:53] <jcsh> is it possible without an extreme extent of modificatioon(i'm ok with remastering ISO) to have an install image for ubuntu server to generate a VNC server during the installation process?
[03:53] <vfw> subho: make
[03:53] <jcsh> I'm attempting to use hyper-v. But, I don't want to use a windows client to connect to a terminal to install the image
[03:54] <vfw> subho: Send me the URL for the output of ./configure
[03:54] <OerHeks> vfw, that driver he got is for kernel 2.4/2.6 ...
[03:54] <vfw> OerHeks: Thank you!
[03:55] <subho> vfw: http://termbin.com/id7f
[03:55] <OerHeks> vfw, you can safely download that file from that dropbox, clamav says oke
[03:55] <vfw> subho: You need to find more current software for your device.
[03:56] <vfw> OerHeks: You've already looked at it?
[03:56] <vfw> subho: uname -a |& nc termbin.com 9999
[03:56] <subho> the make command also gives me errors.
[03:57] <vfw> subho: What veresion of Ubuntu do you have?
[03:57] <subho> uname -a |& nc termbin.com 9999
[03:57] <subho> Ubuntu 14.04
[03:57] <OerHeks> vfw, yes, now i found all he needs is firmware, driver itself is available.. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/203041-wireless-usb-adapter-ralink-rt2870-ubuntu-14-04-a-post959433.html?s=695d963adf1a3fd5ce69ee47c01cdb54#post959433
[04:00] <vfw> subho: Follow the above link
[04:01] <subho> OerHeks: But my is RT5370.
[04:01] <subho> vfw: The pages dowsn't exist
[04:02] <OerHeks> oh, my bad, i ended up with searching for 2870 ..
[04:02]  * jcsh feels like he's on his own for that issue
[04:04] <vfw> subho: What page?  The link that OerHeks sent?
[04:05] <subho> vfw: Yes, Mediatek removed that page
[04:05] <vfw> OerHeks: But look at #9 at the bottom.
[04:09] <subho> vfw: on typing make in terminal it gives me errors. I can provide the output: http://termbin.com/ygcy
[04:09] <vfw> OerHeks: subho http://chomikuj.pl/Alek20152015/DHBK/Drivers/Tenda_USBdriver+v3.0/Linux/W311U+W311U*2b+W322U+W322UA+W326U+W311M+W311Ma/2011_0407_RT3070_RT3370_RT5370_RT5372_Linux_STA_V2.5.0.2_DPO,4750542361.bz2(archive)
[04:10] <vfw> subho: Are you doing this on a laptop?  Or a Desktop computer?
[04:10] <subho> vfw: On desktop
[04:11] <vfw> subho: Why don't you just use a Wireless Router?
[04:11] <uxfi> hi subho sir
[04:11] <subho> vfw: Then I have to install a wireless card on my desktop also. Its pretty old
[04:12] <subho> uxfi: hello
[04:12] <subho> vfw: The easier (and much less costly) was a USB adapter
[04:13] <Amm0n|> subho, http://askubuntu.com/questions/163598/how-do-i-install-wireless-drivers-for-ralink-rt5370-offline
[04:13] <Amm0n|> 8 trackers on this site......
[04:14] <subho> Amm0nl: That page is also removed
[04:15] <subho> vfw: That link you provided. It's pretty messed up. Can't find the download link
[04:15] <Amm0n|> there is a working hardlink for this driver
[04:15] <Amm0n|> http://cdn-cw.mediatek.com/Downloads/linux/DPO_RT5572_LinuxSTA_2.6.1.3_20121022.tar.bz2
[04:15] <OerHeks> hardlink  works indeed
[04:17] <Amm0n|> subho, but i'd consider to upgrade to ubuntu 16.04, there is a good chance it made it into the kernel
[04:18] <jcsh> why is it i always want to do things no one has answers for? can you run a VNC server on an ubuntu server installation medium, or no?
[04:18] <Ben64> jcsh: on the cd?
[04:18] <OerHeks> jcsh, vnc without x ?
[04:18] <jcsh> yes, sir
[04:18] <Ben64> no
[04:18] <Ben64> it's not a live system, it's an installer
[04:19] <jcsh> thank you
[04:19] <jcsh> are you familiar with hyper-v at all Ben64 ?
[04:19] <Ben64> nope
[04:19] <jcsh> damn
[04:19] <Ben64> you can install a vnc server afterwards
[04:20] <jcsh> right, at that point i'd use xauth
[04:20] <OerHeks> framebuffer for vnc https://github.com/ponty/framebuffer-vncserver
[04:20] <subho> Amm0nl: I am doig it...but isn't it for RT5572. Mine's RT5370
[04:21] <jcsh> thank you, OerHeks. I'll look into it. I just want to figure out a way of managing a hyper-v server core without using a windows client to interact with the VM
[04:21] <subho> It again ends with LINUX Error 2
[04:21] <OerHeks> !info Xvfb
[04:22] <jcsh> interesting
[04:22] <OerHeks> http://tobyho.com/2015/01/09/headless-browser-testing-xvfb/
[04:22] <OerHeks> There are a few questions that are never asked before ;-)
[04:22] <jcsh> man, i wish i had a gui right now
[04:23] <OerHeks> print it?
[04:23] <jcsh> am
[04:23] <Amm0n|> subho, can you pastebin what you are trying?
[04:23] <jcsh> just would be nice if i could provide conditional feedback on your willingness to help
[04:23] <subho> Amm0nl: Could you check what the problem is?? http://termbin.com/ygp1
[04:24] <subho> I tried make on that folder
[04:24] <linux_user> yes, it is very useful: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[04:29] <moses> hello, I am trying to set the UUID to a SSD partition but i dont see how to
[04:29] <moses> also google isnt helping
[04:29] <moses> hints?
[04:29] <moses> im trying to migrate my ubuntu disk to an ssd
[04:31] <Amm0n|> subho, looks like you need patched version to make it compile
[04:32] <subho> Amm0nl: So, how to do that??
[04:33] <pier_> hola
[04:34] <rez_ninjah> I'm back... anyone want to try (again) to help me get Xorg accepting tcp connections?
[04:34] <subho> Amm0nl: I do have Windows drivers
[04:35] <subho> Amm0nl: Can I use NDISK wrapper to install them?
[04:35] <rez_ninjah> vfw: the x11vnc thing worked for what I wanted to do yesterday, but today I have a 3rd machine I'd like to be able to run X11 apps from
[04:35] <subho> Though I'm not familiar with them
[04:35] <vfw> subho: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[04:36] <subho> 14.04
[04:36] <vfw> rez_ninjah: You can't use the same solution for the 3rd computer?
[04:37] <rez_ninjah> vfw: it doesn't actually have a monitor on it. that one is headless.
[04:38] <rez_ninjah> I can work around this, but it's getting a little tiresome. linux is supposed to be getting easier to use, not harder.
[04:38] <rez_ninjah> it would be nice if my computer just did what I told it to do. that's one of the (many) draws for me of using linux.
[04:38] <Amm0n|> subho, looks like your're not the only one with this trouble: http://superuser.com/questions/844566/trying-to-compile-ralink-rt5370-chipset-driver-header-files-failing
[04:38] <Amm0n|> try solution from answer 1
[04:41] <rez_ninjah> so I'm back to asking what I have to do to get sddm to pass non-default options to the Xorg server.
[04:41] <subho> Amm0nl: There is no firmware-ralink in ubuntu repo
[04:41] <jcsh> correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the UUID referring the filesystem, not the disk?
[04:41] <subho> Amm0nl: It says unable to locate package
[04:43] <vfw> subho: Are you still in DPO_MT7601U_LinuxSTA_3.0.0.4_20130913 ?
[04:43] <subho> vfw: I have it opened
[04:44] <vfw> subho: Did you read the instructions in README_STA_usb?
[04:45] <subho> vfw: No, I didn't at first. But it seems its the driver for RT2870
[04:46] <subho> vfw: I don't think it would work for my device RT5370
[04:47] <Amm0n|> subho, someone build a patched driver in the german ubuntu-forums, threads are ancient.. https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/c300ru-usb-rt2860-kein-ieee-802-11n/#post-2831641
[04:47] <vfw> subho: Yes, I see that as well
[04:47] <Amm0n|> there is a driver attached
[04:47] <OerHeks> RT5370 is basicly RT2800
[04:48] <vfw> OerHeks: So it's the same?
[04:48] <OerHeks> see https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb
[04:48] <OerHeks> ..RT5370, RT5372, RT5572
[04:49] <OerHeks> ubuntu needs such pages, but advanced users know where to check
[04:50] <vfw> !info firmware-ralink | OerHeks
[04:51] <vfw> subho: sudo apt-get install firmware-ralink
[04:52] <subho> vfw: Unable to locate package firmware-ralink
[04:52] <subho> Amm0nl: Trying method B
[04:52] <vfw> subho: Yea, that's what I thought.
[04:52] <OerHeks> that is your issue, you need to get that firmware
[04:52] <vfw> OerHeks: Did you look at http://termbin.com/hdc1 ?  (Provided to us by subho.)
[04:53] <OerHeks> if you look in your dmesg logs, filter on firmware, you will see the line with RT5370
[04:53] <OerHeks> yes, seen that, caused by missing firmware, driver is there ..
[04:53] <OerHeks> wish genii was here :-(
[04:54] <subho> Amm0nl: On trying method B it shows: install rt2800usb modprobe --ignore-install rt2800usb ; /bin/echo "148f 5370" > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/rt2800usb/new_id
[04:55] <subho> Amm0nl: And then does nothing
[04:55] <Amm0n|> thats ok, try the next commands and replug the stick
[04:56] <vfw> subho: OerHeks http://askubuntu.com/questions/641724/how-to-install-rt2870-rt3070-wireless-driver
[04:59] <subho> Amm0nl: My bad. Missplelt it
[04:59] <subho> Okay did it now what
[04:59] <subho> Still shows AP not supported
[04:59] <subho> Reinserted the stick
[04:59] <Amm0n|> subho, lsusb?
[04:59] <vfw> subho: Did you follow the instructions in the link I just sent?
[05:00] <vfw> subho: "a reboot may be required"
[05:01] <subho> vfw: Its asking for a username in git clone
[05:02] <subho> vfw: It says Cloning into 'mt7601'...
[05:02] <subho> Username for 'https://github.com':
[05:04] <subho> Amm0nl: The Railink driver has installed http://termbin.com/ir5j
[05:04] <subho> Still AP not supported
[05:08] <subho> vfw: What to do at Username and then Password screen??
[05:08] <subho> Do I need to create an account at github??
[05:09] <vfw> subho: https://gist.github.com/wikimatze/9790374
[05:09] <vfw> subho: I don't know.
[05:10] <Amm0n|> is the package linux-firmware preinstalled in 14.04?
[05:10] <ModusPonens> i think so
[05:10] <subho> vfw: According to that link I do need to create a github account
[05:11] <subho> Amm0nl: Yeah its the newest version
[05:12] <Amm0n|> subho, did you reboot after this changes?
[05:13] <subho> umm... nope Doing so now
[05:17] <subho> Amm0nl: Rebooted. Still AP not supported
[05:19] <Amm0n|> subho, but it's still getting recognized by lsusb now?
[05:20] <subho> Amm0nl: Yeah. Railink USB Corp,blah blah
[05:21] <pier_> hola como estan
[05:21] <pier_> hola
[05:21] <pier_> como se maneja este sistema
[05:21] <pier_> de chat
[05:22] <Amm0n|> subho, can you pastebin lsmod |grep rt2
[05:23] <subho> Amm0nl: lsmod |grep rt2 produces no result
[05:24] <subho> termbin ing it says use netcat
[05:26] <Amm0n|> subho, sudo iwlist scan
[05:28] <subho> Amm0nl: http://termbin.com/334z
[05:29] <Amm0n|> subho, to pipe stderr and stdout you need to use |&
[05:29] <subho> Amm0nl: Didn't get you there
[05:30] <Amm0n|> but with your problem i need to bail out, no clues.. exept trying to use the firmware-ralink vfw mentioned
[05:30] <subho> I did use |& when termbin
[05:30] <subho> Amm0nl: That's okay. You guys are great.
[05:31] <Amm0n|> or download the 16.04 iso and see if it works
[05:31] <subho> Such quick replies
[05:31] <subho> Anyway, thanks for trying
[05:31] <Amm0n|> subho, then maybe there was nothing to pipe then^^
[05:31] <xpman> hello
[05:32] <subho> Amm0nl: I used lsmod |grep rt2 |& when termbin.com 9999
[05:32] <subho> It showed use netcat
[05:32] <subho> That message appears when when there's nothing to show
[05:33] <subho> Amm0nl: I would use 16.04, but on my ancient hardware its pretty  slow. Actually tremendouly slow
[05:33] <subho> So, I use 14.04. Anyways will give it a try
[05:35] <Amm0n|> subho, you could use lubuntu or xubuntu then
[05:35] <subho> I have tried both, it works better, but no where near to 14.04.
[05:36] <subho> Both take about 3-4 mins to start up
[05:37] <subho> Anyway, thanks for helping this newbie out.
[05:38] <subho> Gotta go. Been sitting here since 8 am
[06:13] <fjkdkal01> galliumos is good.
[06:18] <fjkdkal01> hello ai
[06:18] <Ai> hello
[06:19] <fjkdkal01> you like linux?
[06:34] <henrik_> I was thinking
[06:34] <henrik_> If I start a cli session
[06:34] <henrik_> How do I return to the desktop environment?
[06:35] <retrosenator> alt+f7
[06:41] <donjuan> can help me https://s14.postimg.org/qbyvozkj5/2016_11_29_140432_1366x768_scrot.png
[06:43] <LinuxNovice> hi, has anybody here heard of linux lite?
[06:44] <Ben64> LinuxNovice: yep, not supported in here though
[06:46] <cfhowlett> donjuan, ask #vbox about virtualbox errors and issues.
[06:46] <LinuxNovice> ok. It is also based on Ubuntu LTS.
[07:01] <edbiker> algun app para msn facebook
[07:11] <moses> anyone have problems getting their nvidia settings to stick?
[07:11] <uxfi> Anyone here cook ?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> uxfi, wrong channel.  play elsewhere please.
[07:12] <uxfi> Ok sorry cfhowlett I mis tabbed
[07:12] <tacomaster> I am having issues with a rt2800usb wifi dongle not performing well at all and was just wanting to see if someone could help me get it running better. Its a wireless n dongle but i keep getting random disconnects, really slow speeds (.03Mbps). Its not the adapter itself because it works in other computers just fine
[07:12] <uxfi> Apologies
[07:13] <cfhowlett> uxfi, let's move on  :)
[07:15] <moses> no one knows the answer to the nvidia driver issue :/
[07:16] <cfhowlett> !patience | moses
[07:16]  * moses growls
[07:32] <jnewt> can someone help me sort out a network issue on a new install?  i try to ping and get ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted.  it seems this may be an iptables issue, but I'm not sure.
[07:45] <J-PASH> Hello
[07:56] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[07:57] <CountryfiedLinux> When I close my laptop lid and open it later it sans I'm switched from wireless to ethernet, and I assure you, it's wireless.
[07:57] <CountryfiedLinux> Not a big deal, just a funny bug.
[08:25] <codfection> I have openjdk installed but it shows an error while launching intellij idea. : No Java SDK of appropriate version found. In addition to the IntelliJ Platform Plugin SDK, you need to define a JDK with the same Java version (JDK_1_8, description: 1.8).
[08:27] <jnewt_> trying to mount a drive (samba share on freeBSD server) with a ubuntu client.  it mounts, but it shows all the files as being owned by root.  when i mount the same share on windows client the owner is always \\server\jnewt.  my username on the ubuntu client is different (oops), but it's still me.
[08:28] <jnewt_> mount command in fstab: //server/media /home/jnnewt/Desktop/media cifs credentials=/etc/samba/user,noexec 0 0
[08:28] <jnewt_> credentials are my username / password on the server that i use to mount from windows
[08:32] <Ben64> jnewt_: you need to set user in mount options
[08:33] <xberg> selam
[08:33] <Guest18378> hi
[08:36] <jnewt_> Ben64: how.  i have the username, password in the credentials file for the server.
[08:37] <Ben64> that's just authentication, you need something to know what user to use client side. uid=<uid>
[08:38] <jnewt_> do i need to get the uid from the server?
[08:38] <Ben64> again, this is client side, local
[08:40] <kumarmj> #join india
[08:41] <jnewt_> Ben64: yeah, ok that got me in.  my mountpoint is ~/Desktop/media  and when i mount it, it creates a second ~/Desktop/media folder.  any idea why?
[08:44] <Ben64> jnewt_: they must not be the same
[08:45] <jnewt_> the second one shows up on the desktop, but ls only shows one
[08:46] <wtn4726> GUIs lie...
[08:54] <blueingress1> Hi, How can I find a caculator in Ubuntu 16.10?
[08:54] <EriC^^> blueingress1: open the dash and type calc
[08:56] <Mate16> Hi everyone, Can someone please help me with this fix cryptsetup_fix_CVE-2016-4484.patch
[08:57] <blueingress1> EriC^^, Nothing happened....
[08:58] <EriC^^> blueingress1: try "gnome-calculator" in the terminal
[08:58] <bash123> hi everyone
[08:59] <bash123> how much disk space does Ubuntu 16.10 use for a clean install on 32-bit x86?
[08:59] <blueingress1> EriC^^, It works this time, Thanks. Is it the same with the dashboard type 'calc'?
[09:01] <Mate16> I did these commands; # sed -i 's/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="panic=5 /' /etc/default/grub # grub-install and I got grub-update grub-install: command not found
[09:01] <EriC^^> blueingress1: try grep Name /usr/share/applications/gnome-calculator.desktop
[09:01] <bash123> anyone answer me please
[09:01] <bash123> how much disk space does Ubuntu 16.10 use for a clean install on 32-bit x86?
[09:02] <EriC^^> bash123: 7gb ?
[09:03] <blueingress1> EriC^^, Hmmm. THanks a lot, it was the same. But why the dashboard does not work?
[09:05] <Mate16> Is there anyone that can help?
[09:05] <Mate16> I can also do it with initram:/scripts/functions or Adding "panic" to the Linux command line.
[09:06] <Mate16> I can't seem to be able to find those scritps though...
[09:07] <EriC^^> blueingress1: i've no idea, maybe a restart would fix it
[09:07] <Amm0n|> Mate16, adding panic=5 to your bootloader doesn't patch anything
[09:08] <koroso> hello
[09:09] <koroso> :)
[09:09] <Orion__> sup
[09:09] <Mate16> >Amm0n | do you know how to stop droping to a busybox after x many password ?
[09:09] <Orion__> No idea
[09:10] <nico_> hi
[09:10] <Mate16> I wonder if /or how many here know about this security risk in ubuntu then?
[09:10] <Amm0n|> Mate16, this isn't rly one
[09:10] <Ben64> Mate16: it doesn't seem like a big deal
[09:11] <Mate16> maybe you should read this then: http://hmarco.org/bugs/CVE-2016-4484/CVE-2016-4484_cryptsetup_initrd_shell.html
[09:12] <Amm0n|> Mate16, your data are still encrypted, and anyone with physical access can mess with stuff that's not new
[09:12] <Amm0n|> i've read it
[09:12] <Mate16> it sure does seem to be a very big deal
[09:12] <Amm0n|> no it's just a bad initramfs
[09:12] <koroso> anybody can help me please ? I'm using mypaint but how can i select, cut and paste like in paint ??
[09:12] <Mate16> Yes but if i can stop it from droping to a busybox then it is better no?
[09:13] <nico_> 你好
[09:13] <nico_> 有没有中国人
[09:13] <Amm0n|> Mate16, you can't with adding something to your bootloader, wait for a patch
[09:14] <nico_> bonjour
[09:14] <Amm0n|> nico_, hi
[09:14] <Mate16> then why does it say this: The issue can be easily fixed by stopping the boot sequence when the number of password guesses has been exhausted. The following patch suspends the execution forever. The only way to exit is by rebooting the computer
[09:15] <Mate16> as you can see there is a patch
[09:15] <nico_> finally  l log in freenode.net
[09:15] <Mate16> I just don't know how to add it....
[09:16] <nico_> spend much time
[09:16] <Amm0n|> Mate16, it doesn't fix anything.. your bootloader is still unencrypted and can be messed around
[09:16] <nico_> ubuntu has 啊
[09:16] <nico_> ubuntu has a little sick
[09:17] <Mate16> well can the bootloader be encrypted?
[09:17] <Amm0n|> Mate16, parts
[09:17] <Amm0n|> Mate16, grub2 can
[09:18] <Mate16> I am useing ubuntu mate 16.04 32 bit
[09:18] <nico_> why still 32 bit
[09:18] <nico_> it's 64 bit stage now
[09:19] <Mate16> this is a backup mini laptop I have no choice
[09:19] <Mate16> it is 10 years old
[09:19] <nico_> oh ，got it
[09:19] <Ben64> then don't worry so much about a little bug
[09:19] <Mate16> I do worry cause I keep my backups on this
[09:20] <pchoo> Hi all, when I log out or try to shut down, my laptop turns into a blank screen with a non-blinking underscore int he top left and becomes completely unresponsive.  At this point I have to hold the power button down to turn off the machine.  I can't see anything indicative in the syslog, does anyone have any advice on what I can do/look at?
[09:20] <Amm0n|> Mate16, http://askubuntu.com/questions/729673/ubuntu-full-disk-encryption-with-encrypted-boot
[09:21] <Mate16> what is the point of full disk encryption if anyone can just hold down the enter key for 70 secs and delete my boot partition?
[09:21] <Ben64> you can't with fde
[09:21] <nico_> is xchat can upload pic on a session？
[09:22] <nico_> i want 塔哦
[09:22] <Amm0n|> Mate16, anyone with physical access can clear the cmos and boot another OS
[09:22] <Amm0n|> Mate16, thats nothing new
[09:22] <nico_> i use xchat chatting on irc now
[09:22] <Amm0n|> Mate16, and pretty much the same as this "CVE"
[09:23] <Amm0n|> Mate16, if you really care don't store them in only one location
[09:24] <Mate16> okay well thank-you Amm0n | for your help, Does having an encrypted boot prevent that though?
[09:24] <Amm0n|> Mate16, not sure because the same grub modules are beeing used for unlocking a /boot
[09:25] <Amm0n|> And it depends on the initramfs
[09:25] <Mate16> okay I will read and try it out thanks again have a good night/day
[09:25] <Amm0n|> Not all distros are affected btw
[09:25] <Amm0n|> u2^
[09:25] <Mate16> :)
[09:30] <pchoo> Can anyone advise me on where to look for information on my issue? when I log out or shut down, the laptop immediately goes to a blank screen with a non-blinking underscore in the top left and becomes completely unresponsive.  I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04
[09:32] <darkry> Is there any way to get the "plank" docking app to startup automatically each time I log in to my OS or to better yet remain permanently?
[09:32] <peterppp> Anyone know how I can change the http status code in Drupal 7?
[09:32] <Guest76634> compiled openvpn-2.4_beta2 on ubuntu 10.04 but when i run it: "/usr/local/sbin/openvpn /*vpn.ovpn" its stuck at 'Need hold release from management interface, waiting...'
[09:32] <Amm0n> pchoo, does it react to ctrl+alt+del?
[09:33] <pchoo> Amm0n: I haven't tried that, but there appears to be no response from anything on the keyboard, i.e. numlock etc doesn't change the lights, can't access any other tty
[09:33] <pchoo> I can give that a quick go
[09:33] <Guest76634> compiled openvpn-2.4_beta2 on ubuntu 10.04 but when i run it: "/usr/local/sbin/openvpn /etc/openvpn/*vpn.ovpn" its stuck at 'Need hold release from management interface, waiting...'
[09:34] <Ben64> Guest76634: 10.04 is no longer supported
[09:34] <Amm0n> pchoo, https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#Diagnosing_Shutdown_Problems
[09:35] <Guest76634> ....ok. had to try
[09:35] <Ben64> Guest76634: you shouldn't
[09:37] <nico_> good morning
[09:37] <pchoo> Amm0n: yup, no response, I'll take a look at that link now, thanks
[09:37] <Orion__> You guys know where i could quickly buy a VPS and learn how to handle it and stuff ?
[09:37] <nico_> whatis vps
[09:37] <Ben64> !manual | Orion__ for the 2nd part
[09:38] <nico_> fully name
[09:39] <Orion__> What do you mean ? Thats not what i ask
[10:03] <yjje> .
[10:04] <Booch> hey
[10:14] <DerPapst> Hey
[10:17] <pchoo> Amm0n: Looks like a kernel problem - sync && reboot -f hung for 17  minutes before I killed it.  It's odd as my colleague has exactly the same hardware and exactly the same installation/kernel
[10:25] <Amm0n> pchoo, maybe you find something in your syslog
[10:28] <pchoo> Amm0n: my syslog has ^@^@^@^@^@^ all through it when the shutdown initiates, before that looks entirely innocuous as far as I can see.  I'm not sure what I would be looking for in the start up stuff to see if there is an issue
[10:30] <Amm0n> pchoo, any other symptoms than the shutdown problem?
[10:30] <pchoo> Not that I've found so far, it started after I did a dist-upgrade
[10:30] <pchoo> having done another one recently, it hasn't fiex it
[10:30] <pchoo> fixed*
[10:32] <Amm0n> try sudo systemctl halt and see if this hangs too
[10:33] <pchoo> Amm0n: yes,  same symptoms
[10:40] <Amm0n> pchoo, needs more informations, can you paste /var/log/kern.log
[10:45] <pchoo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RVAj8CwU/kern.log
[10:48] <pchoo> Ammo0n: looks like it's crashing before it can record anything https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jspGXp3C/
[10:51] <Amm0n> there are some warnings about the i915 module but not sure if this could lead to a crash
[10:51] <Amm0n> did you check if there is a bios upgrade available for this machine?
[10:53] <pchoo> Amm0n: the bios is on my todo list.  AFAIK the i915 are for different hardware versions
[10:54] <pchoo> I've been delaying updating the bios as it's my work machine, I guess it's time for that and a fresh install.  Just gotta wait for my backup to finish first
[10:55] <Amm0n> pchoo, if you still have the problem after bios upgrade you could create a kernel crash dump: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[10:56] <pchoo> Amm0n: Thanks, i'll look into that after the bios update
[10:56] <Amm0n> pchoo, good luck
[10:57] <whothehellami> I am using VirtualGL to connect to a server from inside the same network so the graphical output gets displayed on my local machine. Now I want to access the server over one more hop (at home - outside the network) but that machine does not have virtualgl installed. Any suggestions?
[10:57] <theblazehen> whothehellami How are you accessing it from home? X forwarding? VNC?
[11:00] <whothehellami> theblazehen, I got an account right now so I can connect to the 1st server with ssh. but I the documentation says that I have to use "vglconnect -s" to the 1st and vglconnect -s to the 2nd server
[11:01] <whothehellami> theblazehen, does this answer your question? ^^
[11:03] <theblazehen> whothehellami pretty much, yeah
[11:04] <theblazehen> So what you can do is use an ssh proxycommand to directly connect to the first server. You do use a vglconnect when you're on the same network, right?
[11:04] <luxpir> quick one: I'm about to install php7.1, seems I don't need the ondrej ppa now I've updated - already have php5 installed. Am I OK to run them simultaneously?
[11:05] <theblazehen> whothehellami https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Cookbook/Proxies_and_Jump_Hosts add to ssh config at home with jump host being the host at the office or whereever
[11:05] <luxpir> (on 12.04 LTS)
[11:06] <OerHeks> luxpir, "I'm about to install php7.1, ...already have php5 installed" ?
[11:06] <OerHeks> how would you do that, without ppa/external sources? no 7.1 for 12.04 ...
[11:06] <Amm0n> pchoo, do you hotplug HDMI?
[11:06] <cdf> qui est de france,
[11:07] <whothehellami> theblazehen, so you mean it should be possible to create a tunnel instead of connecting to host1 and from host1 to host2?
[11:07] <luxpir> OerHeks: I just updated and was offered php7.1 and all related packaged
[11:07] <luxpir> *s
[11:07] <luxpir> only other sources I have in my sources.list are for nginx
[11:07] <luxpir> let me check cache policy
[11:08] <OerHeks> luxpir, sounds like nginx provides that, we have no 7.1 yet ..
[11:08] <theblazehen> whothehellami yes. Then you connect to first host directly via the tcp tunnel that's created, rather than over 2 interactive ssh sessions basically
[11:08] <luxpir> *Sorry* I had the ondrej PPA already in place. Many apologies...
[11:09] <OerHeks> luxpir, glad you found out :-)
[11:09] <luxpir> OerHeks: thanks for pointer. so if I install it from there, I can run alongside 5?
[11:09] <OerHeks> maybe proposed gives 7.1, not sure
[11:09] <pchoo> Amm0n: I have HDMI plugged in before I boot and unplug after it is shut down, so no.  That setup has been how I've been using the laptop since I got it 6 months ago
[11:09] <theblazehen> whothehellami performance will likely suck though. Can I recommend running a vnc server at the office or whereever and connecting to that from home?
[11:10] <OerHeks> luxpir, err, i guess not. to be sure, reask in #ubuntu-server
[11:10] <luxpir> OerHeks: OK, will do
[11:10] <luxpir> OerHeks: thanks.
[11:11] <theblazehen> That's what I do. Desktop runs in a lxd container, with vnc server, and virtualgl connects to the hosts x server with a unix socket passed through to the container, and have my thin client connect to the vnc server
[11:12] <theblazehen> Have terrible performance when using straight X over tcp, on gigabit connection. My resolution is larger than most though. 9280x2560
[11:13] <kwk> theblazehen: have you tried x2go?
[11:14] <theblazehen> kwk Yes. It runs over ssh though. Too much processing speed needed. Thanks for the suggestion
[11:15] <theblazehen> kwk worked great with my netbook when I used it. Currently I use tigervnc server and tightvnc client (tightvnc client lets you set compression level to 0, others have a minimum of 1), can watch 2560x1440 video at ~30 fps and ~870 mbit/s bandwidth, around 70% pu usage
[11:16] <t0th_-_> hi
[11:16] <t0th_-_> i am trynig: apt-get update , but i have this error: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:16] <t0th_-_> 404  Not Found and 403  Forbidden
[11:17] <t0th_-_> how i can solve this?
[11:18] <OerHeks> t0th_-_, pastebin the full update log please, nobody can answer without proper information
[11:18] <OerHeks> !paste
[11:18] <whothehellami> theblazehen, thank you for your info. I will check the tunnel and vnc option.
[11:18] <theblazehen> whothehellami glad to help. PM me if you have questions later. Also, kwk's suggestion is good. Can use virtualgl, see if it's possible to implement that
[11:19] <t0th_-_> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23552915/
[11:22] <OerHeks> t0th_-_, the utopic lines are too new for trusty , the rest: br brazil may be updating now, try to change mirror?
[11:23] <t0th_-_> where i can change the mirror or generate a new sourec.list ?
[11:25] <OerHeks> software & updates menu, 1st page: download from ..
[11:25] <t0th_-_> i am on server
[11:25] <t0th_-_> only terminal
[11:28] <OerHeks> t0th_-_, or maybe you have a proxy??
[11:28] <t0th_-_> no
[11:28] <t0th_-_> i am on vagrant
[11:28] <OerHeks> oke, then 403 is blacklisted, not sure why for that official repo
[11:28] <Gargoyle> Can anyone point me in the direction of where to go to get more information on the deeper inner workings of Linux and how decisions and direction are made for the distro? For example, where can I find (or start) a discussion on why there isn't a centralised contact manager / address book?
[11:30] <Gargoyle> Or perhaps even better, the Linux equivalent of https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AddressBook/AddressBook.html
[11:31] <OerHeks> t0th_-_, you edit manually, remove br. >> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[11:32] <t0th_-_> remove br. in all lines?
[11:32] <t0th_-_> i see, i need put br. in this line?
[11:33] <OerHeks> no, remove them like my example
[11:33] <OerHeks> then you end up in the main server
[11:34] <theblazehen> Gargoyle are you looking for user facing stuff, or inner workings?
[11:35] <Gargoyle> Inner workings - seems to be that there is no Linux equiv of that doc which is why every other bit of software writes their own addressbook (for example).
[11:36] <Gargoyle> In my mind, this should be something that sits below X, KDE, Gnome, whatever.
[11:37] <t0th_-_> not work
[11:37] <t0th_-_> very strange
[11:37] <t0th_-_> where i find the oficial source.list on internet to download?
[11:37] <theblazehen> Gargoyle well, there is ldap, but thats equivelant to active directory really. And kde / gnome etc came before those projects would happen. You can probably share gnomes ones with other things via dbus - just send some pull requests
[11:38] <SCHAAP137> active directory is a combination of LDAP, DNS and Kerberos
[11:38] <SCHAAP137> it's not exactly the same
[11:38] <theblazehen> SCHAAP137 Right. Bad comparison.
[11:39] <Gargoyle> theblazehen: My point, what if it's a non gnome system?
[11:39] <theblazehen> http://www.tldp.org/ https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/Documentation and installing arch -> gentoo -> LFS should give you more on how it all fits together
[11:39] <theblazehen> Gargoyle Well, then, we just need someone to develop a DE agnostic one
[11:39] <benbro1> prometheus depends on libjs-handlebars
[11:39] <benbro1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/prometheus
[11:40] <benbro1> it's not available on Ubuntu 16.10
[11:40] <benbro1> why was it removed?
[11:40] <tmus> I just noticed "something" continuously trying to access 127.0.0.1:4101 on 16.10 system. When it fails, it just tries again. My guess is 10-20 probes a second and it does not seem to stop. What is this?
[11:40] <tmus> so to be clear, this is traffic on the lo interface
[11:41] <TeKKiE> Braille protocol, Quadrox GuardDVR, Quadrox GuardNVR, Quadrox WebCCTV DVR, Quadrox WebCCTV NDVR, Quadrox WebCCTV NVR, Blackberry Enterprise Server, NewOak
[11:41] <TeKKiE> Trojans that may use this port: OptixPro
[11:41] <tmus> Wow...
[11:41] <tmus> :D
[11:42] <OerHeks> mirai botnet perhaps?
[11:43] <tmus> It's my own machine, trying to access my own machine
[11:44] <tmus> and while it certainly looks weird, i don't think its malicious
[11:44] <tmus> (yet anyway)
[11:44] <SCHAAP137> you could throw Wireshark at this traffic
[11:45] <tmus> Already did. It's just trying and trying and trying... No connection is ever established
[11:48] <Amm0n> tmus, ss -nlp | cat
[11:48] <tmus> Also, I can't see which PID is doing this which suggests to me - systemd (or indeed a rootkit of sorts)
[11:49] <SCHAAP137> tmus: lsof -i:4101
[11:50] <tmus> SCHAAP137, yeah, nothing is listening on that port - but something is probing it
[11:51] <tsglove> Good morning/afternoon!   n00b question: Is there a 100% free "Ubuntu/Canonical Landscape"  ?    Sometime to manage machines (like Foreman?)
[11:51] <tmus> there you go! xbrlapi
[11:51] <popey> tsglove: No, but landscape is free for a number of users.
[11:51] <SCHAAP137> indeed, strange phenomenon, tmus
[11:53] <tsglove> popey, thank you!  I know... yet for personal use it's free.  I´m looking for a small enterprise.
[11:54] <popey> tsglove: no problem
[11:54] <tmus> SCHAAP137, xbrlapi, which seems to be a braille thing, was causing this traffic. killall xbrlapi && apt-get purge xbrlapi should take care of this, although i don't know why it's doing that
[11:56] <SCHAAP137> ah, braille stuff, okay
[11:56] <sruli> how to i login to a different user in terminal without exec bashrc?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:08] <tehfreakjoe> hi
[12:08] <theblazehen> sruli sudo -u otheruser -i
[12:09] <tehfreakjoe> Guys quick question, why does my ubunto works with FN keys and debian not , since debian is a unconfigured ubunto, what am i missing, thank you and hope to hear soon from you !
[12:09] <tehfreakjoe> an*
[12:11] <mcphail> tehfreakjoe: debian is a different distribution, not an "unconfigured ubunto[sic]", even although the 2 are related. You'd need to ask them for support with your Fn keys
[12:11] <SkylakeMX> Hey
[12:11] <SkylakeMX> anyone need help?
[12:14] <sruli> theblazehen: i need it to login though, home dir is ecryptfs without login it wont decrypt, i usually use "su -l otheruser" to login, but i need to change the bash profile scripts, i do not remember but i once knew the option to use without invoking bash profile
[12:14] <foito> Hello, i have an external usb wireless adapter. When i pluged in i got connected to wi-fi but i am getting disconnect (loosing signla) every some minutes.Also i got crash problem report .. its possible that the problem is because i don't install any driver?
[12:24] <rajendra> Which one you recommend guys? #SaaS Logging services for #Magento2: #Loggly vs #Papertrail or else?
[12:26] <netcrime> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 alongside windows 10 (x32 on x64 system) with BIOS. Problem is that when I restart computer I do not get a Boot option to boot Windows or Ubuntu. It boots windows. What might be the problem?
[12:28] <elevemaths> holaaa
[12:29] <BluesKaj> !uefi | netcrime
[12:30] <netcrime> BluesKaj: Well as I said I think I have BIOS and ant not UEFI
[12:30] <BluesKaj> netcrime, how old is your machine ?
[12:30] <netcrime> PRetty old
[12:31] <BluesKaj> pre 2010?
[12:31] <netcrime> Yes
[12:31] <tehfreakjoe> Guys quick question, why does my ubunto works with FN keys and debian not , since debian is a unconfigured ubunto, what am i missing, thank you and hope to hear soon from you !
[12:31] <tehfreakjoe> debian guys dont have a clue what i am talking
[12:33] <BluesKaj> p, netcrime run sudo os-prober , then sudo update-grub
[12:33] <bazhang> tehfreakjoe, this is not the place for debian issues
[12:33] <donught> tehfreakjoe, debian is definately not just a unconfigured ubuntu
[12:33] <netcrime> BluesKaj: I cannot get in to Ubuntu. It always  boots Windows
[12:33] <donught> netcrime where did you install grub (if you used grub?)
[12:34] <netcrime> donught: I dont remember choosing to install it on ubuntu installation
[12:34] <netcrime> so not sure
[12:34] <donught> netcrime then you probably installed it to a partition that your bios will never be able to reach
[12:34] <BluesKaj> netcrime, ok , hold the left shiftkey down right after the post/BIOS page
[12:35] <BluesKaj> donught, grub installs automatically
[12:35] <netcrime> BluesKaj: what that will do? (I will have to restart this pc to try)
[12:35] <donught> netcrime either configure the windows boot manager to boot ubuntu or install GRUB to the front of your main disk and configure GRUB to boot windows
[12:36] <BluesKaj> it should show your grub menu
[12:36] <netcrime> Hmm ok will try
[12:36] <donught> BluesKaj ubuntu can install the GRUB bootloader to the partition of ubuntu not the front of the disk
[12:36] <donught> netcrime are you only using 1 disk?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> yes donught and ubiquity should do so automatically
[12:37] <netcrime> donught: Yes I do. This is my partitions http://prntscr.com/dd6fsy
[12:37] <netcrime> donught: Sorry I ment I use 2 disks
[12:37] <BluesKaj> net crim the set the bios to boot the ubuntu disk first'
[12:38] <BluesKaj> netcrime,^
[12:38] <netcrime> BluesKaj: Ubuntu and Windows are the same disks (Disk 1)
[12:38] <donught> netcrime to make it easy you could install grub to the other disk that isnt using the windows boot manager (Probablly D:) and use your BIOS boot manager to switch between
[12:39] <BluesKaj> actually is good to install grub to boithe disks
[12:39] <BluesKaj> it's good
[12:39] <netcrime> How do you install GRUB?
[12:39] <donught> BluesKaj, unless he doesnt know how to configure Windows in GRUB
[12:40] <donught> then you cant boot windows
[12:40] <donught> and this train goes round
[12:40] <BluesKaj> the iubiquity installer should have installed grub,
[12:41] <netcrime> Okay thank you guys for help I will try your suggestions.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> like I said netcrime try the left shiftkey right after the post page
[12:42] <keffo> yo people! :)
[12:44] <keffo> Does anyone know how to figure out a printable indicator onto something spinning, so that at a certain rpm, it's clearly visible which direction it's spinning?
[12:44] <keffo> I know how, I'm just hoping someone bundled it up neatly somewhere on github :)
[12:45] <asd> help
[12:45] <asd> my wifi card is not working on ubuntu 16.04
[12:46] <keffo> (oops, wrong channel, not used to this client, mkthxbye)
[12:47] <G66K> hello everyone,
[12:47] <G66K> i been facing there error : /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 899: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[12:47] <G66K> no idea how to solve it
[12:48] <ikevin> asd, does lspci or lsusb (depend if your card is pci or usb) show it?
[12:49] <asd> yes
[12:49] <ikevin> asd, ifconfig show it?
[12:49] <asd> it shows rtl5382
[12:50] <asd> no
[12:50] <EriC^^> asd: try rfkill list
[12:51] <asd> ok
[12:51] <ikevin> take a look at dmesg if it give you any error message about rtl*
[12:51] <asd> then
[12:51] <EriC^^> does it say yes to anything?
[12:52] <asd> yes
[12:52] <iamhuman> holla
[12:52] <avenger_q> I HAVE A SMALL UBUNTU FROSTY PENIS!!
[12:52] <avenger_q> I HAVE A SMALL UBUNTU FROSTY PENIS!!
[12:52] <EriC^^> that was dramatic
[12:52] <avenger_q> I HAVE A SMALL UBUNTU FROSTY PENIS!!
[12:53] <iamhuman> its gay mate
[12:53] <avenger_q> I EAT MY OWN SPERM
[12:53] <iamhuman> hey
[12:55] <FireStriker> can i install itunes on linux?
[12:59] <ikevin> FireStriker, iirc, you can install itunes with wine
[12:59] <FireStriker> how
[13:00] <ikevin> FireStriker, it's in french so see: https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/itunes
[13:01] <FireStriker> i see windows media player 10, that will do the trick for what i want to do
[13:07] <jackhumm> i want to run a program as soon as internet connects,  how to do that
[13:07] <gvillawwm> ok
[13:09] <ikevin> jackhumm, create a systemd script that is executed after network is configured
[13:10] <SCHAAP137> use network-online.target
[13:14] <sociodino> sa
[13:14] <sociodino> hi
[13:16] <p_d> Do "Ubuntu Severs(freenode)" and freenode are same? I'm using haxchat
[13:19] <v-y> p_d: irc.ubuntu.com is an alias for chat.freenode.net. Ubuntu servers point to freenode only. So, yes both are same.
[13:19] <p_d> okay thanks
[13:21] <p_d> "Ubuntu Software" is not working properly. Actually It doesnt load any application at all..What to do?
[13:21] <p_d> I recently migrated to Ubuntu
[13:21] <p_d> 16.04
[13:29] <p_d> How to download google chrome in Ubuntu?
[13:29] <ikevin> p_d, from google's site
[13:30] <ikevin> download .deb file from google, after installation it will add a new repository to have update using apt
[13:31] <p_d> I have already downloaded it from there.. after clicking on downloaded file it redirects me to something called "Ubuntu Software" and then after clicking the page on software never loads
[13:31] <p_d> there's comma after clicking^
[13:32] <ikevin> if ubuntu software fail to install it, you can use a terminal and type: sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[13:32] <p_d> Okay
[13:32] <ikevin> nor (if dependency are needed): aptitude install file.deb
[13:33] <blut> hello. My 'journalctl' appears to be missing a bunch of logs. 'jounalctl --list-boots' only shows the current boot, but not any of the previous ones. How can I fix this?
[13:33] <jackhumm> i have a python program , it is running when i run it normall , but not working when i enter sudo pythonprogram as command
[13:34] <ikevin> jackhumm, what is the error returned when you use sudo?
[13:35] <p_d> ikevin, at present chrome downloaded file isnt there.. Is there any command to download Chrome?
[13:35] <jackhumm> ikevin: no error , some messages  which are same when i try direct commandname or sudo commandname
[13:35] <ikevin> p_d, you can download it from here: https://www.google.fr/chrome/browser/desktop/
[13:36] <ikevin> jackhumm, not easy to debug without error messages :x
[13:37] <obiwahn> hi is trusty still the current release?
[13:37] <jackhumm> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/eF61pOrq/
[13:37] <obiwahn> and if not how do i upgrade to the current version?
[13:37] <ikevin> jackhumm, take a look at the return code (sudo scrypt.py && echo $?)
[13:38] <jackhumm> i am trying to setup this https://github.com/captn3m0/hackertray
[13:38] <jackhumm> but the problem is , i want it to run once my computer get connected to internet
[13:39] <blut> hello. My 'journalctl' appears to be missing a bunch of logs. 'jounalctl --list-boots' only shows the current boot, but not any of the previous ones. How can I fix this?
[13:39] <ikevin> jackhumm, start it with systemd, you will not need sudo
[13:39] <jackhumm> ikevin: i added it to if-up.d
[13:40] <ikevin> if-up.d script are executed as root, no need to use sudo
[13:40] <obiwahn> jackhumm: https://liquidat.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/howto-using-dbus-to-query-status-information-from-networkmanager-or-others/
[13:40] <obiwahn> i think you should do it with dbus
[13:41] <jackhumm> i am using this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/166473/debian-how-to-run-a-script-on-startup-as-soon-as-there-is-an-internet-connecti
[13:41] <ikevin> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47695/how-to-write-startup-script-for-systemd and just add a dependancy on network
[13:42] <obiwahn> if it was not x it would have suggested systemd
[13:42] <obiwahn> but you probably can not use the network target if you use a laptop
[13:44] <jackhumm> so , this wont work
[13:45] <ikevin> obiwahn, network-online.target is a target that actively waits until the nework is "up", where the definition of "up" is defined by the network management software. Usually it indicates a configured, routable IP address of some kind
[13:46] <jackhumm> so , what is the solution wise guys?
[13:47] <jackhumm> why running hackertray command on terminal shows the tray icon , but when i do sudo hackertray , nothing shows up
[13:47] <jackhumm> i think the problem lies here ,
[13:48] <ikevin> try: sudo DISPLAY=:0 hackertray
[13:48] <obiwahn> dont you want to drop privileges?
[13:49] <obiwahn> then su would probably be the right tool
[13:49] <jackhumm> no , it wont show up when i use sudo
[13:50] <ikevin> it can be a restriction in the script, to refuse to start as root
[13:50] <ioria> jackhumm, why you need sudo ? it'a a gui application .... why do you need to start it before X ?
[13:50] <subho> Hey guys, I am trying to install ubuntu touch on my nexus 4.
[13:50] <subho> However on following the tutorial here at: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ I am facing an error.
[13:51] <jackhumm> ioria: all i want is that the my system run hackertray as a command as soon as it gets connected to the internet
[13:52] <subho> on typing : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash , I am getting some uninstallale files.
[13:52] <ioria> jackhumm,  may i ask you why ?
[13:52] <subho> It says, I have held broken packages. Can anyone clarify as to what error is this??
[13:52] <ioria> jackhumm,   it'a a panel indicator ... how can it run without X ?
[13:52] <jackhumm> ioria: because i want this program to be sitting on my tray , when i start my computer , and my computer doesnt somethimes get connected to internet
[13:52] <jackhumm> ioria: i have no idea
[13:53] <vfw> subho: sudo apt -f install
[13:53] <ioria> jackhumm,   usually, you put an indicator  in Autostart
[13:53] <subho> vfw: Still the same error
[13:54] <vfw> subho: sudo apt autoremove
[13:54] <sociodino> hi
[13:55] <subho> vfw: Even after it I get the same error.
[13:55] <subho> Here, have a look : http://termbin.com/osr5
[13:56] <bwlang> I have bunch of SSDs in a server. one is failing (/dev/sdb) what’s the best way to figure out which to replace? serial number?
[13:56] <ioria> jackhumm,  you can make a script that check if network is available, if 'yes' start the indicator .... i don't think you need a unit service
[13:57] <subho> vfw: Does it have to do anything with universal archive being enabled or not
[14:03] <earendil02> hi, does someone know were to find drivers for Dell XPS 13 9360 (2016 DE)?
[14:04] <subho> Anyone having experience in flashing ubuntu for mako (NOT DUAL BOOT)
[14:05] <mcc> Indians  people please do not teach and record any video tutorial for    any subject for computer   you can not speak english well     thank u
[14:06] <mcc> Indians  people please do not teach and record any video tutorial for    any subject for computer   you can not speak english well     thank u
[14:07] <Pici> mcc: Please stop. This sort of thing is not welcome in #ubuntu or any Ubuntu channel.
[14:07] <mcc> but i would like to say to indians  that think know anything   but they dont
[14:08] <Prelude2004c> hey guys. anyone know what this means ? "./configure: line 12748: syntax error near unexpected token `-Wall'   & ./configure: line 12748: `AX_APPEND_COMPILE_FLAGS(-Wall -Werror -Wcast-qual -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations)'
[14:10] <cdf> hello des francais ici,
[14:12] <Pici> !fr | cdf
[14:14] <p_d> ikevin, you there?
[14:15] <ikevin> p_d, yes
[14:15] <Kiryat8> subho I by mistake flashed my Nexus4with mako without dualboot by mistake. All worked but I need WAZE and PANGO apps whendriving so I reverted to DualBoot
[14:16] <p_d> ikevin, I ran sudo dpkg -i downloadedfilename
[14:16] <p_d> it says dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[14:16] <subho> Kiryat8: I also had Ubuntu Dual Boot, but too much of my internal space was gone. So wanna give Single boot a try
[14:17] <BluesKaj> p_d, close you package manager
[14:17] <BluesKaj> your
[14:17] <ikevin> p_d, be sure that software manager is close
[14:17] <subho> However, the instructions provided at ubuntu official page are not working
[14:17] <p_d> from where can I close it?
[14:18] <ikevin> p_d, from the window list ^^' (be sure that update manager is not currently doing update too)
[14:18] <subho> The ubuntu-device-flash and phablet-tools seems to have been moves
[14:18] <subho> *moved
 I would ask in the #ubuntu-touch room. It worked for me about two months ago
[14:20] <therue> anyone type chinese or japanese in linux? :D
[14:23] <p_d> Is software/package manager is a application or what?
[14:23] <p_d> I ran the command again its showing excat same error
[14:23] <p_d> exact*
[14:24] <mika_sys> Hi ! Do you know how to disable the ipv6 multicast listener discovery on Ubuntu ? Thanks in advance
[14:26] <p_d> neither google is showing any solution
[14:30] <Biscuit-> Anyone uses kubuntu here?
[14:30] <Biscuit-> How do I customize this thing?
[14:30] <Biscuit-> The taskbar looks bad and also sometimes the WiFi doesn't connect to a few networks. It's working fine in gnome though.
[14:31] <Biscuit-> Someone help please
[14:31] <BluesKaj> p_d, alt+F2 type synaptic ..that's your software/package manager
[14:32] <mika_sys> @Biscuit- Go to #kubuntu
[14:34] <ryuusei> Hello
[14:36] <daku_> Should I get the Meizu Pro 6 with android and then when the Ubuntu version comes out install ubuntu on it? or just wait for the Ubuntu version?
[14:37] <daum_> hi guys - i'm using https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php and when i try to install php7.0-sybase i get php7.0-sybase : Depends: php7.0-common (= 7.0.8-3ubuntu3) but 7.0.13-1+deb.sury.org~xenial+1 is to be installed any ideas on how to solve that?
[14:37] <rewb0rn> hello, I rent and installed a fresh Ubuntu 16 machine. I run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and select Europe: Berlin and the system switches to GMT and shows 14:36, but it should be CET and 15:36 for Berlin. I run timedatectl and it does not have any DST information included, while on a Ubuntu 14 server timedatectl includes DST information. And idea why Ubuntu 16 switches to the wrong timezone?
[14:39] <Prelude2004c> hey guys. anyone know what this means ? I am trying to configure json-c "./configure: line 12748: syntax error near unexpected token `-Wall'   & ./configure: line 12748: `AX_APPEND_COMPILE_FLAGS(-Wall -Werror -Wcast-qual -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations)'
[14:41] <question> people, there is something wrong with ubuntu 16.10 ---> when i delete a file from a USB flash drive the file dosapears (not it trash) but still occupies memory in the drive, when i empty the trash nothing happens, where is the file and how can i delete it?
[14:43] <xangua> question: it's in your USB drive, .trash directory
[14:43] <question> xangua: the ubuntu trash shows nothing
[14:43] <xangua> Press control+ h to see it
[14:43] <daku_> ^ ^ ^
[14:44] <xangua> question: it's in your USB drive
[14:44] <question> xangua: i don't get it, i deleted it from the drive,
[14:45] <daku_> He's saying its not in your system trash, but on the .trash directory on the flash drive. any directory starting with a . is hidden so you need to use CTRL + H to see hidden folders.
[14:45] <p_d> BluesKaj: It says  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[14:45] <p_d> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:45] <p_d>  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[14:45] <daku_> Once you can see the .trash folder you can remove it from there
[14:45] <question> xangua: usually when i delete a file from a USB drive it shows up in the ubuntu trash, after which i can restore it or empty it, not the case in ubuntu 16.10
[14:46] <question> daku_: why the strange extra steps in the new ubuntu?
[14:46] <BluesKaj> p_d, what says?
[14:46] <xangua> question: what you're saying makes no sense actually
[14:46] <xangua> It has ever been that way
[14:47] <p_d> BluesKaj: sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb ..I'm trying to install google chrome
[14:47] <question> xangua: makes perfect sence, you delete a file, it is in the system trash. in 16.10 it is in a hidden file that i have to access then delete again?
[14:47] <daku_> question: I dunno, I literally only use flash drives to install OS on, so I wipe them after every use so I don't know how it was before or is now.
[14:48] <BluesKaj> p_d, which folder is the deb file in...downloads ? if so so click on it and ithe self installer should start
[14:49] <BluesKaj> p_d, there may be a short delay before the self installer appears
[14:50] <p_d> BluesKaj, yes it's in Downloads.. After clicking it it opens "Ubuntu Software" and it page loads endlessly there no response at all
[14:50] <question> xangua: is there a way to have the trash function as in older ubuntu versions?
[14:51] <ConsolKing> hi all
[14:51] <p_d> BluesKaj, Ubuntu software isnt responding me I've waited for 1 Hr. just to see whats there in Internet section but no respone page is loading endlessly
[14:52] <xangua> question: no, as this was never the "older function"
[14:52] <BluesKaj> p_d, open a terminal, cd ~/Downloads, then, sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[14:52] <daku_> question: I dunno, now that I'm thinking about it. I was under the impression it had always been like this. I'll try it since I'm running 16.04 but I think its always been like that. Windows and Mac do the same thing if using external drives.
[14:52] <Biscuit-> No one here uses kubuntu?
[14:52] <question> xangua: of course it was, you delete a file from a USB and it shows in the system trash, i was just using 16.04 this morning
[14:52] <Pici> Biscuit-: the folks in #kubuntu do
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Biscuit-, I use kubuntu, what's your question?
[14:53] <question> xangua: people are talk about this issue online but no solution: https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/1109055-recent-questions-ask-ubuntu/26d0955d0fbf66b11b3eb57ca3369580-ubuntu-16-10-files-deleted-from-usb-device-do-not-appear-in-trash-why
[14:54] <Biscuit-> Pici thanks, didn't know such a channel existed
 sorry, it's a customization problem I had
[14:55] <davesidious> Hey folks!  Does anyone have any pointers on how to delete *everything* in a filesystem except a list of given paths?  I'm creating docker files and I'd like to empty out as much as possible from within the container.  The simpler the better!
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Biscuit-, in that case join us in #kubuntu
[14:56] <p_d> BluesKaj, it runs ..Please read this response - http://pastebin.com/brLUacrR  in the end it says error..Then I searched for Google Chrome it shows chrome I opend it as of now its running fine.
[14:58] <BluesKaj> p_d, ok good
[14:59] <question> people, is anyone else having problems with the 16.10 trash? deleting files from a USB makes them just disapear and not go to the system trash. is there a fix?
[14:59] <p_d> What do I do with my Ubuntu Software? What if I want to download a software?
[14:59] <p_d> Is their any way to fix it?
[15:00] <davesidious> I've tried using find with -regextype posix-extended and using -not and -regex to specify a pattern which will be negated, but it seems to strangely ignore the pattern sometimes.
[15:01] <p_d> BluesKaj, Chrome is not running fine..There's no picture in Icon of there instead there's a question mark
[15:01] <xangua> question: apparently this is a Nautilus bug that dates from 2006, perhaps you used other desktop environment in 14.04? I've never actually bothered from mainstream Ubuntu/gnome until recently  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/12893
[15:02] <p_d> neither its showing any webpage
[15:02] <BluesKaj> p_d, sudo apt install libappindicator1
[15:03] <question> xangua: well i have always used unity, i have it now on my laptop and desktop, i never used a different desktop environment, never ventured into it
[15:03] <p_d> BluesKaj, may I know what is this?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> p_d, it's a dependendency that needs installing
[15:05] <BluesKaj> dependency even
[15:05] <p_d> BluesKaj, yea its installed
[15:05] <p_d> what next?
[15:06] <yocs0000> quick question: I need to recompile a package, how do I drag in and install all the dependencies?
[15:08] <p_d> BluesKaj, This was the response of dependencies
[15:10] <BluesKaj> p_d, run the terminal command I posted earkeir
[15:10] <BluesKaj> earlier
[15:11] <BluesKaj> p_d, open a terminal, cd ~/Downloads, then, sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[15:12] <BluesKaj> p_d, but first, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:13] <p_d> I ran sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb first....now running  sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:14] <p_d> BluesKaj, sudo apt update successfully ran but sudo apt upgrade says -sudo apt upgrade
[15:15] <p_d> sorry its- Reading package lists... Done
[15:15] <p_d> Building dependency tree
[15:15] <p_d> Reading state information... Done
[15:15] <p_d> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[15:15] <p_d> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:15] <p_d>  google-chrome-stable : Depends: libappindicator1 but it is not installed
[15:15] <BluesKaj> the run sudo apt upgrade separately
[15:15] <BluesKaj> p_d,^
[15:16] <BluesKaj> then sudo apt -f install
[15:17] <p_d> okay
[15:19] <p_d> BluesKaj, sudo apt upgrade showing the same result I ran it separately -> http://pastebin.com/yYEDnGtp
[15:20] <BluesKaj> did you run  sudo apt -f install
[15:20] <p_d> no not now
[15:21] <m3e33> trying to install clang-3.9 on ubuntu 16.04 according to this  http://askubuntu.com/questions/787383/how-to-install-llvm-3-9  but it says Note, selecting 'python-clang-3.9:i386' for regex 'clang-3.9'
[15:21] <p_d> Should I BluesKaj
[15:22] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:22] <p_d>  sudo apt -f install successfully ran BluesKaj
[15:32] <Prelude2004c> hey, anyone here familr with easycwmp acs server ?
[15:32] <Prelude2004c> does a UI exist to manage interface ? i am trying to build an acs server to manage the devices but i can't seem to be able to do it
[15:34] <p_d> BluesKaj, I retry that chrome installation command now its working fine
[15:37] <BluesKaj> p_d, are you sure
[15:38] <p_d> not sure thou but performance is better like webpage are loading normally :/
[15:43] <p_d> BluesKaj, is their anything else I need to do?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> p_d, if it's running ok then it will update automayically now that it's part of dpkg
[15:52] <mojji> hey
[15:52] <cerealguy> hey
[15:53] <mojji> tu bhi yahan pe
[15:53] <cerealguy> is there a "mentor" program for launchpad bugs, kind of like mozilla has?  i want to contribute i just might need someone to lean on first few times
[15:53] <superguest> The latest version of ffmpeg is 2.8.8 in the offical repo for 16.04.1
[15:53] <superguest> I want to try installing a newer version, such as this one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg/7:3.0.2-1ubuntu3/+build/10599141
[15:54] <superguest> What do I need to do?
[15:54] <nacc> !latest | superguest
[15:54] <nacc> superguest: that is for yakkety, not xenial
[15:54] <superguest> nacc I know
[15:54] <nicomachus> superguest: why do you need the later version?
[15:54] <nacc> superguest: your options for getting newer software are to upgrade or to build from source.
[15:55] <nicomachus> going to be pretty tricky to get the newer version to work without upgrading to 16.10
[15:55] <nacc> superguest: but nichomachus' question is a very releavnt one
[15:55] <superguest> nicomachus b/c a function I need is not available in 2.8.8
[15:55] <nicomachus> ok, what function?
[15:55] <superguest> nicomachus, nacc, I consulted #ffmpeg before coming here.
[15:56] <superguest> https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html#Text-expansion
[15:57] <superguest> if you want the specifics, I need the 'localtime' format argument for the 'pts' function for the 'text' parameter.
[15:57] <nicomachus> superguest: are you opposed to upgrading to 16.10?
[15:57] <nacc> superguest: simplest answer is upgrade to 16.10, imo
[15:57] <nicomachus> wait, isn't the new HWE released with yakkety kernel and packages?
[15:57] <nacc> only kernel and x
[15:58] <nacc> nicomachus: but yes, 16.04.1 is out
[15:58] <nicomachus> it's .2 tho
[15:58] <nacc> nicomachus: won't help in this case
[15:58] <nicomachus> ah, oh well. superguest are you opposed to upgrading to 16.10?
[15:58] <superguest> what is HWE sir?
[15:58] <tgm4883> nicomachus: HWE isn't all packages, that wouldn't even make sense
[15:58] <nicomachus> !HWE | superguest
[15:58] <nacc> nicomachus: 16.04.2 won't be out until jan 19th(ish)
[15:58] <nicomachus> tgm4883: yea you're right.
[15:58] <Fuzzerman> Is it possible to give a user time scoped sudo access?
[15:59] <nicomachus> nacc: you're right. I got the announcement email and assumed it was release email.
[15:59] <nacc> nicomachus: np :)
[16:00]  * nicomachus goes back to his game
[16:01] <superguest> okay, I'll upgrade to a 16.10
[16:07] <clement__> u
[16:07] <tahjine> rrr
[16:07] <clement__> Wech
[16:07] <tahjine> bien ?
[16:07] <Prelude2004c> hey, anyone have experience with openACS ?
[16:08] <clement__> yes
[16:09] <superguest> nacc, I will upgrade to 16.10 as it the simplest answer, but for discussion sake
[16:09] <superguest> if I download all the files under Built files (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg/7:3.0.2-1ubuntu3/+build/10599141)
[16:09] <nicomachus> yes, you could install it. but it can be a cluster
[16:09] <superguest> and move them to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:09] <nacc> superguest: dont' move them to /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:10] <nacc> superguest: that's not how you install them, anyways
[16:11] <superguest> nacc, okay, I won't.  Just curious
[16:12] <nacc> superguest: you would need to ensure you have all dependencies for those packages at the correct versions as well
[16:12] <nacc> superguest: it's not worth the hassle, and means you become immediately unsupported (in that you are not running Ubuntu but a Frankenbuntu)
[16:14] <tahjine> wesh
[16:14] <anonymous> yo
[16:14] <tahjine> bien $
[16:14] <anonymous> tranquille
[16:15] <superguest> nacc, I hear ya.  the amd64 build of the ffmpeg I am interested consists of 34 packages, and each depends on a hierarchy/tree of dependencies which is going to be hairy than mofo
[16:15] <tahjine> oklm pto
[16:15] <Guest78196> Ishaq ...
[16:15] <Guest78196> Ishaq ...
[16:15] <superguest> hairier
[16:15] <tahjine> tahjine ?
[16:15] <Guest78196> ????
[16:16] <dimitri> Bite
[16:16] <dimitri> La maturité
[16:16] <lpb> Yes of curs
[16:16] <dimitri> BITE
[16:16] <dimitri> BITE
[16:16] <dimitri> BITE
[16:16] <dimitri> :D
[16:16] <nicomachus> dimitri: stop.
[16:16] <nacc> all of you stop
[16:16] <tahjine> ban this men
[16:16] <dimitri> Hello :D
[16:16] <adrien_> Hallo
[16:16] <adrien_> Maggle
[16:16] <lpb> Yo
[16:16] <dimitri> How are you? :D
[16:16] <adrien_> lpb *-*
[16:17] <moongazer> I have got an exceedingly irritating static on my headphone
[16:17] <adrien_> Fine and you
[16:17] <lpb> Yes it's me
[16:17] <Guest83297> ddd
[16:17] <nicomachus> STOP.
[16:17] <dimitri> WSH LES GENS
[16:17] <nicomachus> This is not a channel for chat.
[16:17] <moongazer> It's been there since I installed Ubuntu 16.04
[16:17] <nicomachus> ubuntu support questions only.
[16:17] <moongazer> Can someone help me? The headphones work fine on other PCs
[16:19] <nicomachus> moongazer: is it only in the headphones or in speakers too?
[16:19] <moongazer> nicomachus, The speakers work perfectly!
[16:20] <moongazer> nicomachus, Any headphone I put in hisses with static
[16:20] <nicomachus> moongazer: ok. what's the sound card? just intel?
[16:21] <moongazer> nicomachus, Any terminal command for me to find out? 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:293e] (rev 03)
[16:21] <moongazer> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [103c:3072]
[16:21] <moongazer> 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[16:21] <moongazer> 	Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
[16:21] <nicomachus> moongazer: is it a laptop?
[16:21] <moongazer> I used lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 audio
[16:21] <moongazer> nicomachus, yes
[16:22] <nicomachus> moongazer: ok. do you have the headphones now?
[16:22] <nicomachus> and are you on that laptop?
[16:22] <yocs0000> p_d: solved your issue?
[16:22] <clemixo> Hello
[16:23] <tahjine> yo
[16:23] <nicomachus> moongazer: your sound card MIGHT be going into power save mode. Especially if you're on battery and not plugged in to AC.
[16:23] <clemixo> tahjine ?
[16:23] <nicomachus> try:     cat /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save
[16:23] <tahjine> ui
[16:23] <tahjine> repond
[16:23] <tahjine> etooooooo
[16:23] <nicomachus> tahjine: stop.
[16:23] <tahjine> ok :(
[16:23] <tahjine> koi
[16:23] <tahjine> *
[16:23] <tahjine> pas moi
[16:23] <tahjine> whalal
[16:24] <tahjine> je ping comme un cochon
[16:24] <nicomachus> !fr | tahjine
[16:24] <tahjine> i speak english
[16:24] <nicomachus> clearly not, because you didn't understand "stop".
[16:24] <moongazer> nicomachus, It returned 0. So not in power save mode, I guess
[16:24] <cerealguy> lol wow
[16:25] <nacc> nicomachus: i think tahjine was saying they will now speak in english
[16:25] <nicomachus> moongazer: correct. ok. but you're getting the static sound now?
[16:25] <tahjine> #ubuntu-fr
[16:26] <D1SEN28> Hi
[16:26] <cerealguy> hi
[16:26] <D1SEN28> Con
[16:26] <D1SEN28> Dop the beat
[16:27] <nacc> D1SEN28: stop, please.
[16:27] <nacc> D1SEN28: this is the ubuntu support channel
[16:27] <D1SEN28> Yes, I can't do anything on
[16:27] <nicomachus> why is this channel a crapshow today
[16:27] <cerealguy> man
[16:27] <cerealguy> no clue
[16:28] <p_d> Sorry I was out for dinner, There's a problem thou Chrome screen start flickering automatically :/
[16:31] <moongazer> nicomachus, Yes. I will be back in 30 mins
[16:31] <nicomachus> ok
[16:32] <Aiirborne> Hi can anyone help me fix the low graphics mode issue? I have tried everything I could find on forums but nothing has worked. I am on 16.04 and am using intel graphics
[16:33] <xangua> Aiirborne: you could start with explaining your actual issue
[16:35] <bror>  hello i need help with syntax file for gedit
[16:35] <Aiirborne> xangua when I boot up I am prompted with "your system is running in low-graphics mode" I'm not sure what the actual issue is I've read a few different things about missing xorg.conf or a conflicting lightdm greeting but this is way above my knowledge level
[16:36] <xangua> Aiirborne: is this a virtual machine? Low specs computer?
[16:37] <Aiirborne> xangua pretty low spec computer but I haven't had any issue with it til now. It's an i3 with 6gb ram not that bad though
[16:38] <p_d> Ubuntu software doesnt load any page. Is their anything I can do to fix it?
[16:38] <xangua> Aiirborne: well that's not exactly low, what graphic card?
[16:38] <nicomachus> Aiirborne: that should work just fine...
[16:39] <nicomachus> xangua: he said intel
[16:39] <ioria> Aiirborne, can you paste df -H ?
[16:39] <blackflow> I installed VLC though snaps (on 16.10), but I can't find it via Dash. I'm sure it's installed and it works because snap run vlc, well, started it.
[16:39] <blackflow> according to docs, snap apps should appear normally like other apps in dash
[16:41] <Aiirborne> ioria I don't think I can paste I'm using irssi on tty1 and can run commands on tty3
[16:41] <nicomachus> !pastebinit | Aiirborne
[16:41] <ioria> Aiirborne,  can you see if your / is quite full or not ?
[16:41] <nicomachus> Aiirborne: sudo apt install pastebinit
[16:42] <nicomachus> then df -H | pastebinit
[16:44] <p_d> Okay anyone please respond do "Ubuntu Software" and "Ubuntu software center" are two different things/applications?
[16:44] <nacc> p_d: yes
[16:45] <nacc> p_d: well, sorry, maybe read too fast -- 'software' and 'ubuntu software centre' are different
[16:45] <Aiirborne> ioria nicomachus http://paste.ubuntu.com/23553977
[16:45] <nacc> p_d: the former is 'gnome software' iirc
[16:45] <Aiirborne> I think that worked
[16:46] <ioria> Aiirborne,  uname -r ?
[16:46] <p_d> nacc: "Ubuntu softwar" is not showing me anything just loading endleslly ..Is their any way to fix it?
[16:47] <Aiirborne> 4.4.0-47-generic
[16:48] <ioria> Aiirborne,  running Unity ? you have only intel on that laptop ?
[16:48] <Aiirborne> ioria yes
[16:49] <ioria> Aiirborne,  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[16:49] <nicomachus> p_d: Ctrl+C
[16:50] <p_d> nicomachus: sorry i didnt get you
[16:50] <Aiirborne> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554008
[16:51] <ioria> Aiirborne,  df -i
[16:52] <nacc> p_d: don't use ubuntu software centre
[16:52] <Aiirborne> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554025
[16:52] <p_d> nacc: I'm talking about "Ubuntu Software" not "ubuntu software center"!
[16:54] <nacc> p_d: there is no 'ubuntu software' on my system ... there is either 'software' or 'ubuntu software centre'
[16:54] <ioria> Aiirborne,  what have you done before the problem  ?
[16:54] <p_d> nacc: wait I'll try giving you a sanapshot
[16:55] <p_d> snapshot*
[16:57] <Aiirborne> ioria I'm not sure what caused it. I rebooted because the icedt java wasn't working properly and I need it to do schoolwork
[16:57] <p_d> nacc: See this is what am talking about - http://imgur.com/a/NZ1M1 "Ubuntu Software"!
[16:58] <ioria> Aiirborne,  can you run  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade without issuse ?
[16:58] <ioria> +issues
[16:58] <Aiirborne> ioria I can try..
[16:58] <Aiirborne> will that put me on 16.10 though?
[16:59] <ioria> no
[16:59] <Aiirborne> ok
[17:00] <nacc> p_d: that does look like gnome software (although the icon is software centre's afaict). Sorry, I don't actually use any GUI to install packages -- what is actually happening? And don't just repeat what you said, what do you mean 'loading endlessly'? So you search and it shows no results?
[17:00] <Aiirborne> ioria it looks like it is working
[17:00] <ioria> Aiirborne,  see if you get any errors ....
[17:02] <yocs0000> p_d: it does not seem to be loading endlessly from your image .... are you sure you have correctly identified the souce of your troubles?
[17:02] <p_d> nacc: This is the problem its not showing any data - http://imgur.com/a/h54P0 ..The same thing(as in the screenshot) happening in each section(ex- Internet,Education etc) and there sub-section(for ex Internet has web browsers,IRC client etc.)
[17:02] <promet> in 16.04, Firefox 50.0 is really mis-rendering a lot of pages. Has anyone else experienced this?
[17:03] <p_d> yocs0000 nacc Starting page is loading fine but then its not showing any kind of data info image etc.
[17:03] <nacc> p_d: i see; i don't see that issue on my 16.10 gnome ubuntu installation, sorry
[17:04] <p_d> oh okay np
[17:04] <yocs0000> p_d: that may be due to a large number of problems, from issues with your router to the program not working properly .... you need to narrow it down I am afriad.
[17:06] <p_d> my connection is fine I guess..Problem is in program I guess
[17:06] <p_d> http://imgur.com/a/720wf
[17:06] <p_d> endless loading^
[17:10] <p_d> yocs0000: Can you help me in troubleshooting this "ubuntu Software"?
[17:12] <misque> people, is there is bug in the 16.10 system trash? or is it just me?
[17:12] <yocs0000> p_d: you have to give me much more info
[17:13] <p_d> yocs0000: ofcourse tell me what?
[17:13] <p_d> Internet connection is fine in my opinion
[17:14] <sweb> how can i have live server cd ? ubuntu 16.04 ?
[17:15] <yocs0000> p_d: describe problem
[17:16] <moongazer> nicomachus, I am back.
[17:17] <Bashing-om> sweb: Be aware that the server .iso does not have a "live" environmnet . for that ability d/l a desktop .iso .
[17:18] <moongazer> nicomachus, You still there?
[17:18] <misque> people, is there is bug in the 16.10 system trash? or is it just me?
[17:19] <yocs0000> p_d: first your  machine, then your setup, then the problem
[17:19] <moongazer> misque, 16.x seems to have a lot of bugs?!
[17:21] <misque> moongazer: it is unfortunate, i  use ubuntu for work, so it is imparative that it works well. i am starting to look for a different distro
[17:21] <nacc> misque: what do you mean by 'system trash' ?
[17:22] <p_d> yocs0000: See in the first screenshot I post it was the starting screen. From there if I select any section Internet, Audio,Graphics any the application doesnt load any data see the second screenshot same this happening over.....and this happens recently I downloaded google chrome ,deb file I double clicked then it directs me to "ubuntu software" then it loads endlessly and if you see the first screenshot in upper side there's three option All, Installed,
[17:22] <p_d> Updates these all dosnt upon at all just load endlessly ..If you want any screenshot again tell me
[17:22] <p_d> posted*
[17:22] <Bashing-om> misque: " ubuntu for work, so it is imparative that it works well " then it is LTS release that is advised that you "should" be running .
[17:22] <banzai27> hello
[17:23] <banzai27> whats up doc
[17:23] <banzai27> i just installed ubuntu 16.04
[17:23] <banzai27> its awesome.. even i force using it with 1gb ram
[17:23] <banzai27> planning upgrade to 3gb
[17:24] <misque> nacc: when i delete a file from a HDD it disapears completely, but still takes up memory space (usually it goes to the system trash where i can preminantly delete or recover).
[17:24] <blackflow> How do I get snap-installed apps to appear in Dash?
[17:25] <im-so> any alternatives for xampp? and more user friendly.
[17:25] <moongazer> Can anyone help me with my headphone problem?
[17:25] <nacc> misque: how are you 'delet[ing] a file from a HDD' ?
[17:25] <nacc> misque: and what do you mean by 'takes up memory space' ?
[17:26] <misque> Bashing-om: true, but i do not need support, i use it for academic work, not enterprise, pluse i was hoping the buggy 16.04 would be fixed, but seems not, slower to copy/paste and this issue with the system trash
[17:26] <Bashing-om> banzai27: Great .. but if ya running the top of the line editions of 'buntu you will find 4 gigs of ram a better experience ; though 2 Gigs will suffice .
[17:26] <misque> nacc: i press the delete button in my keyboard to delete my files
[17:26] <nacc> misque: so you mean in a GUI/nautilus/files
[17:27] <nacc> misque: so you mean it's not been moved to the trash?
[17:27] <misque> nacc: so if i have a 10GB HDD for example and in it is a 9GB file, when i delete the file (and it doe not show up in the trash) i assume it was perminantly deleted (line rm in terminal) but when i check the HDD memory 9GB are still occupied
[17:27] <misque> nacc: yes in the GUI
[17:27] <Bashing-om> Moscherkobold: Honestly, this is the 1st I am aware that there is any problem with the "trash" . What is the issue exactly - be aware I am not a GUI personality type .
[17:28] <promet> Check that, Firefox mis-rendering is a symptom of my having, apparently, totally borked my font system...
[17:28] <banzai27> bashing-om : 4Gb are a bit too much imho.. i dont use multitasking that much
[17:28] <ioria> misque, ls -dl /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash/
[17:28] <misque> nacc: not moved to the trash, but disapears from the nautilus window and i cannot find it
[17:28] <banzai27> say i wanna join a channel and it ask me to register, how to do it?
[17:28] <misque> ioria: hmmmm yes it is there, ok, but how can i perminantly delete it for free up space?
[17:28] <nacc> misque: what ioria said; also 'memory' is not the term to use (hence my confusion) -- you're referring to disk space, I think?
[17:29] <ioria> misque, who's the owner of Trash ?
[17:29] <misque> nacc: yes disk space,   sorry i am not a programmer
[17:29] <misque> ioria: nacc ok the file is in the hidden trash directory
[17:31] <nicomachus> !register > banzai27
[17:31] <misque> ioria: nacc how do i delete it perminantly? when i try to delete it, it just returns to the same hidden trash location
[17:32] <nacc> misque: I don't know -- I don't have any such directory here
[17:32] <Bashing-om> banzai27: K,, rule of thumb .. there can be no such thing as "too much ram " . But I agree, U pulled ram from this box for my wife's box and run now with 4 gigs just fine . - for what I do :)
[17:32] <misque> nacc: this is really wierd, is this a bug, or a new way to use linux?
[17:32] <ioria> misque,  please paste   ls -la /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash/
[17:33] <Bashing-om> banzai27: U/I ** .. I did pull .
[17:33] <misque> ioria: ok 1 moment
[17:33] <banzai27> bashing-om : lol...sounds fair
[17:33] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: I was wondering how he knew your wife.
[17:34] <squinty> misque, if using unity, right click on trash icon to empty trash
[17:35] <misque> squinty: you missed the whole issue
[17:36] <misque> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23554259/
[17:36] <Southern_Gentlem> how are you deleting it
[17:36] <misque> Southern_Gentlem: at the moment i am unable to delete the file from the HDD
[17:37] <ioria> misque,  ls -ld /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash/  , please
[17:37] <kernello> hello everyone, how do you type special chars in english keyboards?
[17:38] <misque> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23554268/
[17:38] <kernello> I mean, with which key combination?
[17:38] <banzai27> why does i get this : banzai81 ##chat :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[17:38] <banzai27> did i do something wrong?
[17:39] <nicomachus> banzai27: ask in #freenode.
[17:39] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Well .. I am often surprised how people know my wife .. The graphics she does .. and (" facebook" !) .
[17:39] <nicomachus> lol
[17:39] <ioria> misque,  something wrong with the parent directory perms
[17:39] <moongazer> nicomachus, Thank god you are back.
[17:39] <banzai27> ok
[17:39] <nicomachus> moongazer: I'm in and out. work has gotten busy.,
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> banzai27  and make sure you don't get banned... bad language, non-allowed bots etc
[17:39] <misque> ioria: i have this same issue in my desktop and laptop
[17:40] <banzai27> im afraid the only bots i interact with is ubotto
[17:40] <moongazer> nicomachus, um but the headphones
[17:40] <banzai27> :D
[17:40] <banzai27> whatever... i'll just hangover here
[17:40] <nicomachus> moongazer: if it wasn't because of low-power mode, I'm not quite sure what it could be.
[17:41] <ioria> misque,  ls -ld /home/$USER/.local/share
[17:41] <moongazer> nicomachus, Please help
[17:41] <banzai27> going 44% using testdisk
[17:41] <banzai27> can i use inxi here?
[17:41] <ioria> misque,  you can paste here
[17:41] <HackerII> woohoo
[17:41] <nicomachus> moongazer: try opening up Alsa Mixer
[17:42] <misque> ioria:  drwxr-xr-x 17 acresearch acresearch 4096 Nov 29 20:41 /home/acresearch/.local/share
[17:42] <banzai27> moongazer... thats an epic nick
[17:42] <ioria> misque,  should be 700
[17:42] <banzai27> im thinking of stardust_revelation101
[17:42] <nicomachus> moongazer: alsamixer from terminal
[17:43] <moongazer> nicomachus, And...
[17:43] <nicomachus> moongazer: try disabling loopback and see if that fixes it (all the way to the right with the ->)
[17:43] <ioria> misque,  i mean  drwx not  drwxr-xr-x
[17:43] <misque> ioria:  hmmm
[17:43] <nicomachus> moongazer: also try muting the headphone mic if there is one.
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[17:44] <moongazer> nicomachus, There is no much option(Loopback)
[17:44] <JustTheDoctor> my system says cron is running, the command i am trying to execute threw cron is to execute a .sh file i have #!/bin/sh in the top of the sh script and when i execute it manually it works, but with my crontab -e edit it doesnt seem to be executing nor am i finding any kind of error, can anyone tell me how i might find out what is going on?
[17:44] <HackerII> i have 1 thing to say to ubuntu, don`t apologize to windows, they are changing code as a make believe security issue, don`t buy it, its like clinton saying we accepted the vote,
[17:44] <misque> ioria: i installed 16.10 several days ago, i did not play with the terminal or anything
[17:44] <HackerII> no pun intended
[17:44] <nacc> !ot | HackerII
[17:44] <ioria> misque,  16.10 or 16.04 ?
[17:44] <Aiirborne> alright ioria 98% done we will know soon
[17:44] <misque> ioria: 16.10
[17:44] <ioria> Aiirborne,  still running ?
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> JustTheDoctor  if your command in cron requires root permission, you should use    sudo crontab -e
[17:45] <banzai27> HackerII : that is probably more than 1 thing to say
[17:45] <JustTheDoctor> MonkeyDust: my crontab -e is done as root
[17:45] <Aiirborne> ioria yes just finished downloading
[17:46] <JustTheDoctor> this is my line 5 * * * * /bin/sh /root/votesystems/run.sh > output.log
[17:46] <Aiirborne> ioria nevermind just failed
[17:46] <ioria> misque, so, if in nautilus you create a file and delete it... it does not go in trash ?
[17:46] <nicomachus> votesystems/......?
[17:46] <elias_a> How does one download youtube videos using Ubuntu 16.04?
[17:46] <ioria> Aiirborne,  details, please
[17:46] <nicomachus> elias_a: youtube-dl
[17:46] <elias_a> nicomachus: It fails.
[17:46] <nicomachus> !info youtube-dl > elias_a
[17:46] <nicomachus> what do you mean it fails?
[17:47] <misque> ioria: does not go to trash (if file is deleted from a USB connected HDD)
[17:47] <moongazer> nicomachus, The option you mentioned isn't there the loopback one
[17:47] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: output.log should be a full path, that also doesn't specify which users crontab that command is in. Did you use 'sudo crontab -e' or just 'crontab -e' to get to that
[17:47] <bittin_> Testing Ubuntu on Windows :D
[17:47] <nicomachus> moongazer: is there a mic on the headphones?
[17:47] <ioria> misque, usn hd ?
[17:47] <ioria> misque, usb hd ?
[17:47] <JustTheDoctor> 11:45 AM <JustTheDoctor> MonkeyDust: my crontab -e is done as root
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> type this line, see what it says:  ls root .... i guess you cannot 'work' with files in /root
[17:47] <Aiirborne> ioria it looks like it failed at dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal(broken pipe)
[17:48] <Aiirborne> not sure what would cause that
[17:48] <ioria> misque, that's different
[17:48] <HackerII> why would a connected file go to a connected trash file  ??, don`t make  snse
[17:48] <JustTheDoctor> Lemme try with full path
[17:48] <misque> ioria: yes, if the file is in the computer there is no problem when deleting, only when deleting from a USB HDD
[17:48] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: fair enough, I'd still add a full path to your log file, and maybe a 2>&1 to direct errors there as well
[17:48] <elias_a> nicomachus: Here's what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23554304/
[17:48] <misque> ioria: you know those 1TB 2TB HDD that you connect by USB
[17:48] <squinty> elias_a,  might want to try the video downloadhelper add-on
[17:48] <ioria> misque, look if you have a trash or a lost+found on your usb hd
[17:48] <p_d> Unable to install git ..I tried apt-get install git
[17:48] <p_d>  it says-http://pastebin.com/CGcrS2KQ
[17:48] <misque> ioria: yes a hidden trash folder
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> elias_a  is your nick referring to 'elias artista'?
[17:49] <nicomachus> elias_a: you might want to ask in #youtube-dl
[17:49] <ioria> misque, they go there, right ?
[17:49] <nacc> !sudo | p_d
[17:49] <elias_a> MonkeyDust: Nope.
[17:49] <nicomachus> that's a pretty specific error
[17:49] <moongazer> nicomachus, yes there is. However, even headphones without mics make hissing static sounds
[17:49] <nicomachus> moongazer: try muting the mic.
[17:49] <JustTheDoctor> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0MxI2bz6
[17:49] <elias_a> nicomachus: Thanks. I'll try there.
[17:49] <misque> ioria: my files are there, but when i try to delete them, they just return to it when a number like file.doc file.2.doc file.3.doc
[17:49] <tgm4883> p_d: learn how to post links, and you need to prefix it with sudo
[17:49] <moongazer> nicomachus, Not working
[17:50] <Aiirborne> ioria also "errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/console-setup-linux_1.154_all.deb
[17:50] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: ok, then you need to fix that
[17:50] <nicomachus> moongazer: ok, one sec
[17:50] <cerion> elias_a: go and ask in #youtube-dl
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> JustTheDoctor  see... put the 'votesystems' file elsewhere, then try from there
[17:50] <nicomachus> cerion: I literally just said that, and they said they would...
[17:51] <ioria> misque, can you access the location from terminal, and delete them ?
[17:51] <misque> ioria:  let me try
[17:52] <misque> ioria: sorry i am not familiar with location the USB diretory
[17:52] <nicomachus> moongazer: I'm going to lunch. back in about an hour. There are several very capable people here that can help, if you restate the original issue.
[17:52] <ioria> misque, if mounted, you can access from its mount point
[17:52] <p_d> tgm4883: sorry..whats the solution of it?
[17:52] <JustTheDoctor> ok lemme try those 2 things
[17:52] <nacc> p_d: did you read the blurb about sudo?
[17:52] <ioria> misque, usually /media/user of /mnt or what you set
[17:52] <tgm4883> p_d: you can't install things unless you are root (eg. use sudo)
[17:53] <moongazer> Hello people. My headphones are making a hissing sound? Can anyone help?
[17:53] <moongazer> ?
[17:53] <product> hi, I cannot buy a PCIe NVMe , but a regular ssd: I can get a PCIe NVMe in 2 months, which is too much time. What are the differences between https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-PRO-2-5-Inch-MZ-7KE512BW/dp/B00LF10KTO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480441754&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+ssd+pro+512 and https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-PRO-Internal-MZ-V5P512BW/dp/B01639694M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480441774&sr=8-2&keywords=samsung+ssd+pro+512?
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> JustTheDoctor  one other thing, you forgot the slash... it's /root, not root
[17:53] <p_d> oh
[17:53] <misque> ioria: found them
[17:53] <misque> yes i can access them
[17:53] <squinty> misque, tried using nautilus -> right click on directory -> open in terminal
[17:53] <nacc> product: that's not really ontopic here
[17:54] <ubuntu_> hey guys
[17:54] <misque> squinty: thanks, that is a shortcut i did not know about
[17:54] <ioria> squinty,  again by default on 16.10 ?
[17:54] <p_d> I really want to learn those Command Lines please provide a nice tutorial etc.
[17:54] <Chr|s> anyone use redshift? for some reason it doesn't change to day during the day, it stays at night
[17:54] <JustTheDoctor> ls can access /root
[17:54] <ioria> squinty,  i had to make a script in 14.04
[17:54] <moongazer> Hello people. My headphones are making a hissing sound? Can anyone help?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> JustTheDoctor  what's the outcome of    whoami
[17:54] <nacc> !shell | p_d
[17:54] <JustTheDoctor> root
[17:55] <JustTheDoctor> i am logged into the ssh as root
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> JustTheDoctor  you shouldnt be root, that's a 'bad idea' (c)
[17:55] <p_d> thanks
[17:55] <squinty> ioria, can't say as I haven't used 16.10 yet but it seems to have worked for misque
[17:55] <ioria> squinty,  i see
[17:55] <Jeff916> I am struggling to unmount my directories after chrooting into the system from a live usb; anybody have any way to help  me?
[17:55] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: my money says that it's an issue with the script
[17:56] <JustTheDoctor> then why isnt it even giving me a output log with the output of the script?
[17:56] <JustTheDoctor> like i said if i manually run the cmd it works, cron doesnt
[17:56] <Aiirborne> ioria anything else I can try?
[17:56] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: I'd have to see the script
[17:57] <banzai27> anyone care to share some kicka$$ tweak for Xenial?
[17:57] <Jeff916> I'm getting desperate :(
[17:57] <JustTheDoctor> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Rc8YlWcX/
[17:57] <misque> ioria: squinty ok i can delete my file from the terminal, but is this a bug, or just a new way ubuntu wants us to use linux?
[17:57] <ioria> Aiirborne,  can you put  sudo apt fuull-upgrade in a pastebinit ?
[17:57] <Aiirborne> ioria yes
[17:57] <ioria> misque, :þ i don't know, mate
[17:57] <JustTheDoctor> this is my cron now: 5 * * * * /votesystems/run.sh 2>$1 /var/log/cron/output.log
[17:58] <misque> ioria: i don't know, can someone file a bug report about this?
[17:58] <ioria> misque, sure
[17:58] <Pici> JustTheDoctor: you probably want 2>&1 not $1.
[17:59] <tgm4883> Pici: +1
[17:59] <JustTheDoctor> fixed that
[17:59] <nacc> Jeff916: provide more details. What command did you run, what was the ouptut (use a pasetbin)
[17:59] <nacc> Jeff916: *pastebin
[17:59] <JustTheDoctor> 5 * * * * /bin/sh /votesystems/run.sh 2>&1 /var/log/cron/output.log
[17:59] <misque> ioria: thanks, i hope canonical fix this, i was exited for 16.10, but this is kind of a basic usability poroblem :-)
[18:00] <nacc> !bug | misque
[18:00] <misque> ioria: thanks for your help :-)
[18:00] <ioria> misque, no probs
[18:00] <JustTheDoctor> this is getting rather annoying
[18:01] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: also, 2>&1 should be at the end, I don't think that is going to work the way it's written  (You're redirecting 2>&1, but you aren't directing any output to the log file)
[18:01] <Bashing-om> Chr|s: Had a similar issue with redshift when a new kernel was installed on my 14.04 install . I re-installed redshift to resolve .
[18:01] <Jeff916> @nacc thankyou so much for your answer, I ran the following: http://pastebin.com/DQSTrxej
[18:01] <JustTheDoctor> 5 * * * * /bin/sh /votesystems/run.sh > /var/log/cron/output.log 2>&1          like that?
[18:01] <nacc> Jeff916: ok, those are the mount commands -- but you said something like umount was failing?
[18:02] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: yes
[18:02] <Aiirborne> ioria not sure what happened but now can't even sudo apt upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554361
[18:02] <JustTheDoctor> fixed
[18:02] <JustTheDoctor> does the file output.log need to exist or will it create it/
[18:02] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: it should create it since it's running as root
[18:02] <ioria> Aiirborne,  why 1.154 is installed  ? xenial is 1.108
[18:03] <Jeff916> @nacc yes, I'm assuming using: "sudo umount /dev/sda2" (sda2 is my root partion) should work
[18:03] <Aiirborne> ioria I have no idea
[18:03] <JustTheDoctor> and does it go every 5 minute's from when its saved or based on 12:00, 12:05, etc?
[18:03] <ioria> Aiirborne,  ppa installed ?
[18:03] <Aiirborne> is there a way to fix it I'm not sure what happened
[18:03] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: no, not with the way you wrote it
[18:03] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: you have it set to run 5 minutes after the hour
[18:03] <nacc> Jeff916: why would it? you've mounted directories underneath it, and so it's in use?
[18:03] <JustTheDoctor> o
[18:03] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: eg. 12:05, 1:05, 2:05
[18:03] <Aiirborne> ioria that is probably it
[18:03] <JustTheDoctor> should it be */5 ?
[18:04] <nacc> Jeff916: you shuld reverse the mounts you did, in the order you did ithem, no?
[18:04] <ioria> Aiirborne,  you have (or have installed ) mismatching pkgs version
[18:04] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: yes
[18:04] <ioria> Aiirborne,   look at /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:04] <JustTheDoctor> with */5 its every 12:00, 12:05, etc?
[18:04] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: yes
[18:04] <JustTheDoctor> ty
[18:04] <Jeff916> nacc I exit'd the chroot, I'm a noob and this is my first time I have ever had to use chroot. What commands should I use? Thankyou
[18:04] <JustTheDoctor> hopefully it works this time! :)
[18:04] <banzai27> AMEN
[18:05] <banzai27> finger crossed
[18:05] <banzai27> or is it crossed finger
[18:05] <nacc> banzai27: please, no color commentary.
[18:05] <JustTheDoctor> ahhhhh
[18:05] <Henster> hi any body here run apache2 virtula hosts ?
[18:05] <banzai27> im not coloring anything
[18:05] <Henster> *virtual
[18:05] <JustTheDoctor> ok so i think i figured it out!
[18:06] <banzai27> color in my country means underwear...
[18:06] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: oh?
[18:06] <JustTheDoctor> the output.log said node not found, so i changed it to /usr/bin/node
[18:06] <banzai27> just saying
[18:06] <blackflow> Henster: what's the problem?
[18:06] <Henster> i cannot connect to my Virtual hosts from the internet
[18:06] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: yep, full paths...
[18:06] <nacc> banzai27: just stay ontopic, and don't make random comments
[18:06] <Henster> it wors internally
[18:06] <sveinse> To mount up a (ubuntu) server directory/home to a local (ubuntu) machine, what is the preferred way of doing this these days? NFS?
[18:06] <blackflow> Henster: what's the exact error?
[18:06] <banzai27> ah.. ok nacc
[18:06] <banzai27> sorry for that
[18:06] <JustTheDoctor> didnt realize the .sh script had to have the full path also ;P
[18:06] <Henster> and my port is open
[18:06] <Aiirborne> ioria this is what that looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554387 maybe thats the wrong xorg ppa
[18:06] <Henster> im using no.ip
[18:06] <banzai27> what is the topic again?
[18:07] <blackflow> Henster: what's the exact error?
[18:07] <Jeff916> @nacc are you still there bud?
[18:07] <Henster> just not opening no error
[18:07] <nacc> Jeff916: something like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554394/
[18:07] <ioria> Aiirborne,   using nvida from there ?
[18:07] <nacc> banzai27: see /topic
[18:08] <Jeff916> "nacc You are my hero :D
[18:08] <nacc> banzai27: but i will say, if you were wondering what you did 'wrong' earlier -- behavior like that is why you get banned from IRC channels...
[18:08] <blackflow> Henster: does the traffic reach your server?
[18:08] <Jeff916> @nacc thankyou so much!
[18:08] <Aiirborne> ioria I shouldn't be I only have intel graphics
[18:08] <nacc> Jeff916: np, do you see the logic? it's basically just going backwards through the list you did
[18:08] <blackflow> Henster: I ask what the error is because it's different if DNS is problematic, from no port open, or Apache being misconfigured, etc...
[18:09] <banzai27> nacc: i tried /topic and it said you're not a channel operator
[18:09] <ioria> Aiirborne,   so how come you have xorg-edgers ppa ? (btw i think you need to purge them all )
[18:09] <nacc> banzai27: don't run anyting else, just run '/topic'
[18:09] <nacc> banzai27: you probalby tried to set the topic
[18:09] <Jeff916> @nacc yes bud I understand, I'm trying to learn and thanks to amazing people like you the linux community is what it is :)
[18:09] <banzai27> actually im not getting banned "banned".. just doing things wrong with my nick register
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> banzai27  do you have a technical ubuntu question?
[18:09] <Henster> i checked on this website if the port is open. also im also runnig a open vpn server ,, i checked on the NOIP,com and can see my public ip address
[18:10] <Henster> 'how can i check if the traffic is reaching the server ?
[18:10] <Aiirborne> ioria probably cause I don't know what I'm doing and just copy and paste things from google when I have a problem
[18:10] <blackflow> Henster: with tcpdump
[18:10] <Jeff916> @nacc thanks again bud, got to go now :)
[18:10] <blackflow> Henster: also check if the request is registered in the Apache logs but has errored out
[18:10] <banzai27> monkeydust : as matter of fact yes i do...i tried to set up two monitor on my freshly installed ubuntu 16.04.1 and the screen keeps flickering
[18:10] <ioria> Aiirborne,   can you paste also     /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[18:11] <banzai27> i set up 1 vga to dvi i filter and 1 vga directly
[18:11] <JustTheDoctor> hmm, that time it didnt log anything
[18:11] <JustTheDoctor> gatta wait another 5 minute's.
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> banzai27  ok, then stick to that question and drop the useless remarks
[18:11] <banzai27> is there a way to fix that
[18:11] <banzai27> useless remarks?
[18:13] <p_d> Say if we want to install any software which is compatible with ubuntu can we always do I through Terminal?
[18:13] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah
[18:13] <p_d> how?
[18:14] <EriC^^> using apt-get and dpkg if you downloaded the packages manually as debs
[18:14] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install <package name>
[18:14] <moongazer> Can anyone help me with my microphone and headphone/
[18:15] <p_d> Say I want to download virtual box what will I do?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> p_d  find it in the repos
[18:15] <ioria> Aiirborne,   not sure, but should be a debian package
[18:15] <EriC^^> p_d: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[18:15] <Aiirborne> ioria hopefully this worked http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554420
[18:16] <p_d> Okay
[18:16] <EriC^^> p_d: apt-cache search <package> shows possible packages it found
[18:16] <ioria> Aiirborne,   eb http://http.kali.org/kali kali-rolling main contrib non-free
[18:16] <ioria>     .... no good
[18:16] <p_d> Just being curious how to find it in repos MonkeyDust
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> p_d  with apt search [package]
[18:17] <Aiirborne> ioria I had a feeling you would say that when you said it could be something with the ppa
[18:17] <krobzaur> p_d: I would go to the virtualbox webpage and add they repos they rpovide there. The debian one's are a little behind
[18:17] <p_d> should I need to use sudo first? :/
[18:17] <p_d> prefix*
[18:17] <ioria> Aiirborne,   if  i were your, i'll get rid of the ppa and i'll remove whatever you installed from Kali, and remove the source
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> p_d  not for apt-cache
[18:17] <Aiirborne> ioria is there a way to reset ppa to default?
[18:18] <p_d> okay thanks
[18:18] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: ppa-purge
[18:18] <Aiirborne> ioria ok
[18:18] <ioria> !info ppa-purge
[18:18] <EriC^^> install it and purge the package
[18:18] <ioria> Aiirborne,   ^^
[18:19] <moongazer> Helo guys
[18:19] <moongazer> *help
[18:19] <EriC^^> !details | moongazer
[18:19] <p_d> Eric^^ if I do sudo apt-get install virtualbox ..wil it install suitable version for me like I see there are two kind of download i386 and amd64?
[18:20] <moongazer> EriC^^, There is a hissing sound coming from my headphones
[18:20] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah it should download the right one for your pc
[18:20] <p_d> okay
[18:20] <moongazer> EriC^^, Any headphone attached to my laptop does it. Also, the headphone works properly everywhere else
[18:20] <EriC^^> moongazer: no idea
[18:21] <ViciousLooRoll> can someone point me to the bash on ubuntu on windows channel? i cant seem to locate it
[18:21] <Aiirborne> ioria I think I messed up big http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554439
[18:21] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: which ubuntu version?
[18:21] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | ViciousLooRoll
[18:22] <moongazer> EriC^^, Oh god
[18:22] <moongazer> no
[18:22] <ioria> Aiirborne,   it's the same as before
[18:22] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ 16.04
[18:22] <graphitemaster> is there a way to determine (from the command line) if there is a distribution upgrade?
[18:22] <ioria> Aiirborne,   you mean, you cannot install ppa-purge ?
[18:22] <graphitemaster> I'm trying to automate some things here and I need a way to test if there is an upgrade, not actually perform it.
[18:22] <Aiirborne> ioria correct
[18:22] <EriC^^> moongazer: try alsamixer and pavucontrol
[18:22] <graphitemaster> just report that there is an available distribution upgrade really.
[18:22] <JustTheDoctor> cron is working THANKS everyone
[18:22] <EriC^^> moongazer: check settings > sound
[18:23] <EriC^^> in the system settings in ubuntu
[18:23] <ioria> Aiirborne,   you can try   sudo apt-get -f install
[18:23] <moongazer> EriC^^, I have already done all that
[18:23] <ViciousLooRoll> Bashing-om: cheers
[18:23] <nacc> graphitemaster: do-release-upgrade -c ?
[18:24] <graphitemaster> nacc, does that return a status like 0 if there is an upgrade and 1 if there isn't?
[18:25] <tgm4883> graphitemaster: Couldn't you just check the release that you are on vs a known list?
[18:25] <nacc> graphitemaster: returns 0 if there is, 1 if not, yeah
[18:25] <nacc> graphitemaster: based upon reading the source code, you might want to verify that for yourself
[18:25] <Aiirborne> ioria nope no luck
[18:26] <ioria> Aiirborne,   stuck at keyboard-configuration ?
[18:27] <Aiirborne> ioria yes
[18:27] <Henster> @blackflow should i not add the domain names to my ubuntu serveras well ?
[18:27] <ioria> Aiirborne,   try to comment with #   the 'Kali' source in /etc/apt/sources.list and rerun sudo apt update
[18:28] <blackflow> Henster: yes the vhost must be for the domain you're requesting, regardless of DNS over no.ip
[18:28] <Aiirborne> ioria I already deleted it  and ran update before I ran -f install
[18:29] <ioria> Aiirborne,   and no luck ...
[18:29] <Aiirborne> ioria correct
[18:30] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: remove the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:30] <EriC^^> add a "#" there then run sudo apt-get update
[18:30] <ioria> EriC^^, no ppa in there but in   sources.list.d
[18:30] <EriC^^> oh
[18:31] <EriC^^> comment it out there Aiirborne ^
[18:31] <ioria> Aiirborne, do that.... try
[18:31] <kubi> hello
[18:31] <Aiirborne> sorry comment out which one? I deleted the kali one
[18:32] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: ok, run sudo apt-get update
[18:33] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: type apt-cache policy systemd
[18:33] <EriC^^> !info systemd
[18:33] <EriC^^> !info systemd xenial
[18:33] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: is it 229-4 as above?
[18:34] <kubi> whats up people?
[18:34] <ioria> Aiirborne, it's not enough remove the kali source , you need to remove  what you installed from there
[18:34] <SpeccyMan> the sky, the stars, the moon
[18:35] <kubi> ooh yes!! <SpeccyMan>
[18:35] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554503
[18:36] <ioria> Aiirborne, Katoolin .... that's is diffucult to revert, i guess
[18:36] <Aiirborne> ioria I'm not not sure what I installed I was messing around with Katoolin
[18:36] <Aiirborne> guess that was a bad idea
[18:37] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: perfect
[18:37] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get -f install again
[18:37] <ioria> Aiirborne, yep....  do you have backups ?
[18:37] <EriC^^> !info console-setup-linux
[18:38] <EriC^^> !info keyboard-configuration xenial
[18:38] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: does apt-cache policy keyboard-configuration give you 1.108 ?
[18:40] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554515
[18:40] <ioria> Aiirborne,  do you have backups ?
[18:41] <Aiirborne> ioria no.. nothing very import on here though except some family photos
[18:41] <Henster> @blackflow im editing the /etc/hosts file to 127.0.1.1  ( can i add more than one name here next to exh other )
[18:42] <ioria> Aiirborne,  we can try to manually purge that .... but idk what may happen
[18:42] <elmoustacho> hello
[18:43] <Aiirborne> ioria how bad could it be
[18:43] <Aiirborne> could i get a clean install done from what I have right now?
[18:43] <elmoustacho> I would like to know if it's highly recommended to install "intel-microcode" or if it may cause bugs, thanks :)
[18:44] <ioria> Aiirborne,  i think kali broke your system
[18:44] <Aiirborne> ioria well that's fun :/
[18:45] <ioria> Aiirborne,  you can use   sudo dpkg -P keyboard-configuration    but i'm sure it'll fail
[18:46] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: maybe if you ppa-purge the packages you installed from kalitools?
[18:46] <Aiirborne> ioria yea weirdly it says it is not installed
[18:47] <ioria> EriC^^,  he cannot install ppa-purge
[18:47] <EriC^^> really a reinstall would be easier if you dont mind
[18:47] <EriC^^> ioria: ah right, doh xO
[18:47] <ioria> EriC^^,  heheheheh
[18:47] <ioria> Aiirborne,  what you mean ?
[18:47] <p_d> Okay say I want to install a server/package I run sudo apt-get install <package> but before I want to know which version its going to install it? Is their any way to do that?
[18:48] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah, apt-cache policy <package> shows the version and which repo it's taking it from
[18:49] <Aiirborne> ioria when I try to purge keyboard-configuration it says warning: ignoring request to remove keyboard-configuration which isn't installed
[18:49] <yocs0000> p_d: or apt-cache show <package> if you want the whole block of information available
[18:49] <derdiedasda> Hello, as math homework for school, I have to write a proof about the geometric series, as far as I know it ist not possible to do that with libre office, could anyone tell me the name of a freeware programm, where I can write things like the sum formula? - Thanks in advance. :)
[18:50] <ioria> Aiirborne,  dpkg -l | grep keyboard-configuration
[18:51] <Aiirborne> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554545
[18:51] <nacc> derdiedasda: you probably want latex or similar
[18:51] <nacc> derdiedasda: although i think libre may be able to do fancy symbols, never tried
[18:52] <moongazer> Hello, I need help to fix my speakers.
[18:52] <nacc> derdiedasda: if you don't want to learn LaTeX (although I'd recommend it if you're doing math-y stuff long-term), you can use LyX
[18:53] <p_d> EriC^^ yocs0000 I tried it to do with vagrant the latest version 1.9.0 and when I tried to run apt-cache policy vagrant it shows "1.8.1+dfsg-1 500" does this its not gonna download the latest one?
[18:54] <derdiedasda> nacc I'm doing it only for school, it's my last year, I won't do that stuff long-term, thanks for the help, I will google both and try them.
[18:54] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah
[18:54] <p_d> ohh ..shoudld it download the latest from official site?
[18:55] <EriC^^> p_d: if you want it yeah sure
[18:55] <p_d> can I install .deb through teminal?
[18:55] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[18:55] <Aiirborne> ioria can I manually get the 1.108 keyboard config dependency or something
[18:55] <p_d> thank you
[18:55] <EriC^^> np
[18:56] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: try sudo apt-get purge keyboard-configuration
[18:56] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: the problem is that there's also the systemd dependency stuff too
[18:57] <p_d> Isnt Ubuntu and Debian are similar as it doesnt show option for Ubuntu?
[18:57] <EriC^^> feels like trying to run around one's own tail
[18:57] <p_d> to download
[18:57] <nacc> p_d: it is not recommended to mix Debian and Ubuntu
[18:57] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah same thing for downloads
[18:58] <p_d> okay
[19:13] <Aiirborne> ioria so I just rebooted and grub is saying I have kali installed... :/
[19:21] <Aiirborne> ioria should I do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554642
[19:24] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ what do you think?
[19:24] <yocs0000> p_d: I do not know vagrant but that is the version you get from repository .... do you need a specific version?
[19:26] <ubuntu778> hi guys. stupid question im not able to get anywhere with GRUB. i followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Recover_Grub but all i ever get is the grub menu
[19:26] <moongazer> nicomachus, hey
[19:27] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: seems like it will break
[19:27] <ubuntu778> does anyone know why it stopped showing ubuntu as my OS?
[19:27] <ubuntu778> 12.04 if it matters
[19:27] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: probably best to back up at this point and reinstall and bite the bullet
[19:27] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: you get a grub> prompt?
[19:27] <ubuntu778> yes
[19:28] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: type "ls -l"
[19:28] <ubuntu778> no matter what i type there it doesn't show though. only thing the keyboard takes is enter (which gives me a new line)
[19:28] <EriC^^> odd, try booting a live usb
[19:28] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ i wish I could I'm stuck in a hotel cause my car broke down on the way back home from thanks giving :/ I need to do my school work
[19:28] <ubuntu778> im currently in a live cd now
[19:29] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: Show the channel what you are working with , from a liveUSB pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . See what we can do to get you booted .
[19:29] <ubuntu778> but the options it gives me to recover a broken system ; none of them seem to apply
[19:29] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: any live usb?
[19:29] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ I usually bring one but this would be the time I didn't
[19:29] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" in a terminal and paste the link it gives you here
[19:30] <ubuntu778> Bashing-om/eric i dunno where to type that i get: http://imgur.com/VNyFxt6
[19:30] <ubuntu778> shell is just 'busybox' not proper shell
[19:30] <ubuntu778> so i cant do things like gpart
[19:31] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: is that the server iso?
[19:31] <ubuntu778> yes. its headless server. not desktop
[19:32] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: maybe download an iso real quick and use grub to boot it to get the school work done
[19:32] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778:T hat looks to be a server ( ir minimal ) install medium .. We need to use a desktop medium .
[19:33] <ubuntu778> so 'desktop' version then?
[19:33] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ grub can boot from an iso saved on the computer?
[19:33] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: yeah it can boot it usually
[19:33] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[19:34] <ubuntu778> thats 404 for me.
[19:34] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ wow so I can reinstall this way as well?
[19:34] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: the link above?
[19:34] <ubuntu778> downloading desktop ver tho
[19:34] <ubuntu778> yes
[19:35] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: try to execute the shell and then try lsblk
[19:35] <ubuntu778> error 500 now. but im downloading 'desktop' version now
[19:35] <ubuntu778> ok
[19:35] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: yeah
[19:35] <ubuntu778> lsblk not found. #busybox things.
[19:35] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: you'd need to have the iso on another partition though
[19:35] <EriC^^> i think
[19:40] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: try downloading the 14.04, i haven't had much luck before with 16.04 and grub booting
[19:40] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: what does your partition table look like? try sudo parted -l
[19:41] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554720
[19:42] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: perfect, you can use the swap partition for grub
[19:43] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: sudo swapoff -a
[19:43] <CDO> Hey guys just quick question.  If I have Ubuntu on my SSD and I have a storage hard drive.  If i want to reinstall Ubuntu I should be fine wiping the SSD and keeping the storage hard drive untouched?
[19:44] <EriC^^> then sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda5
[19:44] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554730
[19:45] <Bashing-om> CDO: Yep . just be aware of what you tell the installer .
[19:45] <CDO> Bashing-om: Just to wipe that certain partition?  And if I'm going to install Windows it shouldn't matter either should it?
[19:47] <l0c0sp> Boa tarde ara todos
[19:47] <Bashing-om> CDO: Well, depends on what the system identifies and what options you use to RE-install . A "install alongside" will default to the 1st hard drive that is "generally" known as sda . A 'sudo parted -l " so you "know" what is .
[19:48] <CDO> Hmm okay maybe I'll come back when I'm ready to reinstall
[19:48] <CDO> Thank you!
[19:49] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda5
[19:49] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: also type sudo nano /etc/fstab and add a "#" to the line that says swap in it
[19:49] <EriC^^> then save and exit with ctrl+x
[19:49] <EriC^^> *add a "#" to the start of the line
[19:51] <milkaaxx> hi, can i assign IP to a linux user only?
[19:52] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554753
[19:53] <problem> can someone port me to the german channel please
[19:54] <Bashing-om> CDO: Good deal, we are here to help . A stitch in time saves 9 .
[19:54] <milkaaxx> hey, i need my all my users to use their assigned ip, 20 users on 20 ips, is it possible?
[19:55] <Bashing-om> !de | problem
[19:55] <problem> danke
[19:55] <moongazer> how do I remove mic static?!
[19:55] <marov> what would make an interface name change to eth0@ifxx where xx is an integer (this is in an ubuntu docker container)
[19:56] <funkster> How would i detect on the system if my ubuntu server is direct connected to another computer verses a switch? anything in ifconfig output?
[19:57] <ubuntu778> ok EriC^^ / Bashing-om - im in terminal again
[19:57] <blackflow> milkaaxx: assigned how?
[19:57] <blackflow> funkster: maybe through MAC address in the IP header
[19:58] <Bashing-om> funkster: ' ip route show ' work for ya ?
[19:58] <milkaaxx> blackflow, i sell an account, i give him an IP address, the user can only use that even if there are 20 in ifconfig...
[19:58] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: terminal on a liveUSB ? or in the install ?
[19:59] <funkster> Bashing-om: i'd have to test in a bit, but you saying the route output would be different then connected to switch?
[19:59] <ubuntu778> liveusb
[19:59] <blackflow> milkaaxx: use how? to make daemons listen on? for outbound traffic?
[19:59] <den_lesnov> den_lesnov
[20:00] <milkaaxx> blackflow, yea, lets say they start a bouncer on 0.0.0.0, it will only listen to his ip, and when he connects to irc, no /bvhost needed
[20:00] <Bashing-om> funkster: Well . will show the IP of the other end . now it cn not tell you what that IP is . weather it is another vomouter, a router or a switch . Here you need to know what is on your network .
[20:00] <blackflow> milkaaxx: yes through a container of some kind, lxd, lxc, ...
[20:01] <blackflow> milkaaxx: then you assign one IP per container
[20:01] <milkaaxx> blackflow, what should i google .. to start?:D
[20:01] <blackflow> milkaaxx: LXD
[20:01] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: I have lost where we are . catch me up with what we are working with . Pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[20:01] <milkaaxx> blackflow, thanks
[20:02] <ubuntu778> Bashing-om: is a pm easier? lots of traffic in here
[20:02] <gebruiker> plymouth does makes the monitor flicker and eventually turn off for a while and then turn on again upon checking /dev/sda1. The only time plymouth is displayed correctly is when shutting down or rebooting
[20:02] <gebruiker> I am running xenial
[20:03] <ioria> funkster, sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24   (or your subnet)   tells you something ?
[20:03] <ubuntu778> Bashing-om: http://imgur.com/a/bsZiU
[20:03] <milkaaxx> blackflow, it's a virtual machine..
[20:04] <funkster> ioria: i need to detect if machine is connected to another computer TO set an ip correctly.
[20:04] <blackflow> milkaaxx: doesn't matter, you can have LXD containers in a VM too.
[20:04] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: Not better, that peer review ( EriC^^ _ is good to have and as well the edification of all looking over our shoulders. If the parts and joins are  problem you can set in your irc client to ignore them .
[20:05] <ubuntu778> its webclient so i have no idea how. but that doesn't matter.
[20:05] <ubuntu778> basically GRUB shows nothing- i can't type in grub when it boots. its installed and doesn't load my OS. i'm running server 12.04
[20:05] <ubuntu778> but i'm currently booted using livecd "desktop" version of 12.04; and i linked gpart here http://imgur.com/a/bsZiU
[20:05] <ubuntu778> parted* not gpart
[20:07] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: Ouch .. I can not relate with your install - LVM  - . I do not know anything about LVM and perhaps encryption . EriC^^  ???
[20:08] <milkaaxx> blackflow, thank you
[20:09] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: try sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 sda5_crypt
[20:10] <ubuntu778> EriC^^: sorry to be a problem but whats that doing exactly? i need the data to be untouched.
[20:13] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: decrypting the partition
[20:14] <ubuntu778> EriC^^: okay. sorry to be dense but my issue is grub not detecting the os? i just want to make sure we're doing the right thing
[20:15] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: yeah, we're on the same page, we need to decrypt the partition to chroot and reinstall grub and whatnot
[20:15] <ubuntu778> okay thanks.
[20:16] <ubuntu778> EriC^^: "device is not a valid luks device"
[20:16] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: it's not an encrypted partition?
[20:16] <ubuntu778> no; its on a datastore
[20:17] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: ok, type sudo apt-get install lvm2
[20:18] <ubuntu778> hm ill have to connect it to the internet.. which.. is far away
[20:18] <ubuntu778> my closest internet is two switches away haha.
[20:19] <Aiirborne> well EriC^^ I downloaded 14.04 then moved it to the new partition but when I tried to boot it from grub it wasn't there and it's not on the new partition now either not sure what happened but I'm downloading again
[20:20] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: how did you move it to the partition?
[20:20] <hhee> guys, does vim vundle or another packages manager available in ubuntu repos? 16.04
[20:21] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ mounted the partition to /mnt and then mv .iso mnt
[20:22] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: does /etc/crypttab have anything?
[20:24] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ I don't see a crypttab
[20:24] <Bashing-om> hhee: Huh ? rephrase for me ?
[20:24] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: hmm
[20:25] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: ok
[20:25] <Pici> hhee: no, you'd need to install them manually.
[20:25] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ this time I am downloading it straight to the mount point that will work right?
[20:25] <ubuntu778> EriC^^: ok i have lvm2 installed now
[20:26] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ubuntu778 Not much help here .. but the only time I have seen LVM on a single disk is when encryption is employed .
[20:27] <ubuntu778> i didn't setup the system; so i'm not sure if/what its encrypted
[20:29] <Dlabz> Hi, all. I got my self in a bit of a mess, hoping someone can help me, though I probably don't deserv it :D
[20:30] <cn28h> what kind of mess is that?
[20:30] <Dlabz> I have a ubuntu server running 13.04
[20:30] <ioria> no good
[20:30] <nicomachus> !ask | Dlabz
[20:31] <Dlabz> nicomachus: sorry, but I know that asking for out of support version is a problem
[20:31] <aruns> Hi, I am having an issue with Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:31] <nicomachus> yea you need to upgrade, Dlabz
[20:31] <nicomachus> can't get support until you do.
[20:31] <Dlabz> yup, but doesn't work
[20:31] <Dlabz> so, I need help to upgrade
[20:31] <ioria> Dlabz, what does not work ?
[20:32] <aruns> I've had it fine for the past month or so since upgrading from 15.10, but last night Network Manager seemed to break.
[20:32] <Dlabz> release upgrade
[20:32] <aruns> As cannot get wireless connectivity, only wired.
[20:32] <Dlabz> can\t find
[20:32] <nacc> !eolupgrade | Dlabz: did you follow this?:
[20:32] <aruns> Am running apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade at the moment.
[20:32] <Dlabz> cant find files
[20:32] <aruns> I am guessing I need to upgrade to 16.10?
[20:32] <aruns> It's just that whenever I checked, 16.10 wasn't available.
[20:32] <aruns> So I am guessing it would now be available?
[20:33] <nacc> aruns: you never *need* to upgrade to 16.10, at least not for a bug issue
[20:33] <aruns> nacc: But Network Manager isn't allowing me to connect via Wi-Fi, only ethernet.
[20:33] <aruns> And apparently this is a common issue on 16.04.
[20:33] <Dlabz> nacc, no, my ubuntu is so old, it gae me wrong info :D
[20:33] <Dlabz> thanks, I'll try this
[20:33] <younder> Dlabz, Well 13.04 is a long time ago. You would have to go though all the realse upgrades from the sequentially. If you have messed at all with your system it is unlikely to work. I would backup and then do a full reinstall.
[20:34] <nacc> aruns: you could try a 16.10 live session, then, and see if it's fixed
[20:34] <ioria> Dlabz, try the link posted otherwise you need to edit sources.list with the new release name ...
[20:34] <monoum> Hello. Can someone tell me what's up with the upstream redis-server package in Trusty? Why isn't it receiving security backports?
[20:35] <Dlabz> ioria: can you point me to the list, in case I need it later, so I don't need to explain to someone from start?
[20:35] <monoum> It's on 2.8.4. Debian's analogous package is on 2.8.17, and has received multiple security backports
[20:35] <monoum> Most importantly for  CVE-2015-8080
[20:35] <Village> Hello, i was delete all iptables "iptables -F" and now i can't connect to my eggdrop via DCC? It;'s can by that i delete iptables? How i can restore? Thanks
[20:36] <nacc> !info redis-server trusty
[20:36] <ioria> Dlabz,  first backups, of course; then see the link nacc  poste; if it fails,  edit /etc/apt/sources.list and where you see Raring change to Trusty
[20:36] <nacc> monoum: redis-server is in universe
[20:36] <Dlabz> thanks, ioria
[20:36] <nacc> monoum: redis-server only gets updates as performed by the community, not by the security team
[20:37] <ioria> Dlabz,  wait .... the command it's not do-release-upgrade in this case .... but apt-get update , upgrade and dist-upgrade
[20:37] <monoum> nacc: OK, I guess I'm not well-versed in the distinction between universe. I thought that it was primarily a thing about copyright status? I suppose that's multiverse.
[20:37] <nacc> !components | monoum
[20:37] <OerHeks> monoum, if you are so concerned, why not install a newer ubuntu ? redis-server Version 2:3.2.1-1 (yakkety)
[20:38] <tgm4883> OerHeks: honestly, that seems like a terrible answer
[20:38] <monoum> I find it hard to be believe that no one from the community has been concerned about redis 2.8.4 on trusty? I've seen multiple threads online complaining about it without satisfactory outcomes.
[20:38] <Dlabz> thanks, ioria, so far seems to be working with the updated sources
[20:38] <ioria> Dlabz,  ok
[20:38] <monoum> There must be some other political issue preventing the inclusion of important security updates?
[20:39] <tgm4883> monoum: find the bug report?
[20:39] <nacc> monoum: did anyone file a bug? or submit a fix?
[20:40] <nicomachus> monoum: political issue...? no.
[20:40] <nacc> monoum: there are only 9 bugs filed against src:redis right now, nonoe of which relate to security issues in trusty
[20:42] <monoum> Like I said, it's been mentioned several times online, and yes, I checked the bug reports. Here's one that seems like it was automatically closed after a referral to the SecurityTeam (which would be irrelevant as a universe package, apparently) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/redis/+bug/1467606
[20:42] <monoum> I guess I just assumed that redis-server is such a widely-used package that this would've come up sooner and have a ready explanation...
[20:43] <nacc> monoum: there was a response for community activity, and then nothing
[20:43] <tgm4883> monoum: you shouldn't just assume that redis-server is such a widely used package
[20:44] <monoum> Usually go to IRC for the ready explanations that exist but are for whatever reason not showing up on Google
[20:45] <monoum> Yeah, I mean, I guess (?) redis-server may not be widely used. Maybe everyone uses a different PPA for redis.
[20:46] <monoum> But OK, thanks for pointing this issue out everyone. I now have clarity on why the 14.04 package is out of date and insecure. I will definitely be thinking about doing something about this. :)
[20:47] <BarBQ> Hi i get this error on ubuntu, Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic).
[20:47] <Dlabz> got it to Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS , thanks ioria and others
[20:47] <someone_> Is there anything official for wxWidget 2.8 (dev)? Because i want to compile a application, and it needs wx 2.8, but i only find 3.0.. (Ubuntu 16.04)
[20:47] <ioria> Dlabz,  good
[20:48] <monoum> BarBQ: That's an SSH authentication failure. It means you don't have the things you need to log in to the server you want. Contact your system administrator to get that stuff.
[20:48] <BarBQ> monoum its a lab machine and i own it.
[20:49] <blackflow> monoum: like switching to Debian? :)
[20:49] <nacc> BarBQ: you might try running `ssh -vvv`
[20:49] <ioria> someone_, 2.8 is for trusty, i guess
[20:49] <BarBQ> Basically i am trying to SSH from ubuntu machine to Centos7 and that is the error i get.
[20:49] <monoum> BarBQ: OK. Configure it correctly. Right now password auth is disabled if you're expecting to input a password. You'll have to update that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. If you're expecting key auth to work, your key is not enrolled properly on one server or the other. Try Googling for a SSH setup guide.
[20:49] <nacc> !google | monoum: fyi...
[20:49] <nacc> monoum: not that you only said 'google it', but just so you know
[20:50] <monoum> nacc: Good tip, thanks
[20:50] <nacc> someone_: on 16.04, i don't think so, sorry
[20:50] <aruns> Hi.
[20:50] <aruns> sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade finished runnning
[20:50] <monoum> Hi.
[20:51] <aruns> But at the moment.
[20:51] <aruns> Still only getting internet access through wired and not wireless.
[20:51] <BarBQ> monoum is there a simple fix?
[20:51] <aruns> On Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:51] <someone_> nacc: So i have to get that version by myself and compile it by myself?
[20:51] <aruns> Has anyone else also been experiencing Network Manager issues on 16.04?
[20:51] <ubuntu> hey
[20:52] <blackflow> aruns: yeah, LinuxActionShow had a rather negative review about that specific issue. Personally haven't had it because I don't wifi.
[20:52] <nacc> someone_: yes, or maybe run your application in a trusty VM or container?
[20:52] <ioria> someone_,  what app ?
[20:53] <someone_> nacc: I visted wx's site and they provide a repo it seems
[20:53] <rhino77> does anyone know how to create a xorg.conf file in 16.04?  any help would be greatly appreciated
[20:53] <someone_> ioria: iMule
[20:53] <nacc> rhino77: you don't generally need to, otherwise if you konw what you're doing, just create it in the normal place
[20:53] <blackflow> rhino77: running Xorg -configure will autodetect hardware and write you a sample xorg.conf in root's homedir
[20:53] <genii> !xorgconf| rhino77
[20:54] <nacc> genii: thanks :)
[20:54] <monoum> BarBQ: the simple fix is probably enabling password auth and logging in with your password. That has security ramifications. This guide has some information that may be useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[20:54] <ioria> !info amule xenial
[20:54] <ioria> oh, sorry .. iMule ???
[20:54] <john75077> afternoon all - do we have any lxc / lxd folks in here?
[20:54] <BarBQ> monoum yes reading that :)
[20:54] <blackflow> rhino77: you can just take that file and use it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:54] <rhino77> nacc: I'm trying to do it for the sake of studying the files
[20:54] <someone_> ioria: Yes, iMule is a modified version/fork of (a)Mule
[20:55] <ioria> i see
[20:55] <rhino77> blackflow:  Thanks! I'm going to go try this now.  Your help is greatly appreciated.
[20:55] <lgstate> is there a easy way to turn a ubuntu machine into a "local copy of wikipedia" I don't want to just run mediawiki -- I want it to serve a clone of the latest wikipedia dumps
[20:56] <ioria> someone_,  have you already tried with 3 instead of 2.8 ?
[20:56] <nacc> !crosspost | john75077
[20:56] <someone_> ioria: The build-system compains that it can't find 2.8
[20:56] <blackflow> lgstate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
[20:56] <someone_> ioria: *complains
[20:56] <nacc> john75077: you might also want to use #lxcontainers if you have a specific question
[20:57] <john75077> ok thanks
[20:57] <ioria> someone_,   last  version (14-10-2012)  ???
[20:58] <marov> ´/join #lxcontainers
[20:59] <someone_> ioria: iMule is a maintained fork
[21:00] <ioria> someone_,  the link please ?
[21:01] <Finetundra_> Hey folks, I've got a slight problem. I had an ubuntu install drive die. I do however have an instance of windows installed on a different drive but I'm unable to boot from it as I get thrown into grub rescue mode. What should I do?
[21:01] <someone_> ioria: It's on the I2P-network, http://i2pwiki.i2p/index.php?title=IMule
[21:03] <ioria> someone_,   sy, server not found
[21:03] <Bashing-om> Finetundra_: Well, you can try re-installing Windows' boot code from a Windows' recoveryCD .
[21:04] <someone_> ioria: Because it is not on clearnet.. The download i found dated 2016-06-20, so it is still somewhat recent
[21:05] <ioria> someone_,  vm
[21:05] <Finetundra_> Bashing-om: I don't exactly have one handy. Any other suggestions? I can grab an ISO if I need to but I hope to get this down with what I have one hand
[21:05] <Finetundra_> *on
[21:05] <someone_> ioria: VM?
[21:05] <ioria> someone_,  virtual machine
[21:05] <ioria> someone_,  of 14.04
[21:05] <someone_> ioria: I know, but how do you mean it exaclty?
[21:06] <ioria> someone_,  it's like a second OS ... with 2.8 by default
[21:06] <someone_> ioria: Hm, i am not sure if this laptop can handle it, because of low mem and high usage
[21:06] <ioria> !info virtualbox | someone_
[21:06] <ioria> someone_,  how much ram ?
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Finetundra_: Wellll .. maybe - as grub will also boot Windows - install grub from a ubuntu liveUSB ? But I do think the better is to install Windows' boot code natively .
[21:07] <someone_> ioria: 4 GB, and i already tried windows (kvm and vbox), and it was very slow
[21:08] <ioria> someone_,  yeah.... no safe way to install (or rename) 2.8 on xenial
[21:08] <Finetundra_> Bashing-om: does a DVD work? My last DVD drive kinda met an unfortunate fate a day or two ago
[21:09] <Finetundra_> *USB
[21:09] <Bashing-om> !boot-repair | Finetundra_
[21:09] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ I got the iso downloaded and created a menuoption for it in grub but when I boot the iso i get a bunch of /dev/sr0: No medium found and sstdin: Not a typewriter
[21:09] <someone_> ioria: Not even when compiling by itself?
[21:09] <Bashing-om> !bootrepair | Finetundra_
[21:10] <Bashing-om> Finetundra_: I am told that ^ will also fix Windows' booting .
[21:11] <ioria> someone_,  idk, sorry
[21:11] <someone_> ioria: I'll try it
[21:11] <ioria> someone_,  ok
[21:12] <ioria> someone_,  sometimes just rename the libs, does the trick ...  but not safe
[21:14] <Finetundra_> Bashing-om: Nice that you guys made a tool for it. I'll get cracking. If I have more questions I'll come back
[21:14] <James_Epp> Hey. Maybe weird question. Copied about 8GB to a USB 2.0 flash drive using a live environment of ubuntu. Now I'm wondering .. which is faster but at the same time the safest? Waiting for # sync to complete or can I shutdown? Would shutting down still have to wait for # sync , giving me no change in time waited, but less control?
[21:14] <Bashing-om> Finetundra_: K; Sad that bad things happen .. Good that tools are available to help recovery :)
[21:15] <Finetundra_> See ya fellas
[21:19] <dbkaplun> how can i grep for all "foo" after which "-bar" does NOT follow?
[21:19] <dbkaplun> something like foo(?!-bar)
[21:21] <someone_> dbkaplun: Perl RegEx? Try grep -P
[21:21] <nacc> dbkaplun: i'm not sure POSIX regex has lookahead, you'd need to use a different specification (e.g., perl, python)
[21:21] <dbkaplun> someone_: -bash: !-bar: event not found
[21:22] <someone_> ioria: Do you know in what package a library for opengl is? It tries to find libGL and/or libMesaGL, but cant find it
[21:22] <nacc> dbkaplun: you'd need to do some research on the proper perl regex, of course
[21:22] <nacc> dbkaplun: you are asking for a negative lookahead assertion, iiuc
[21:23] <someone_> dbkaplun: Did you tried putting your regex inbetween ''? like grep -P 'foo(?!-bar)'   because bash tries to interpret the ! specially
[21:24] <dbkaplun> someone_: thanks!
[21:33] <espied> I have a folder located at /storage I created it with root. I would like to be able to access it with other accounts. I tried changing the permissions and owner with chmod -R 644 /storage and  chown -R espied:espied /storage, however i cannot run touch /storage/test.file as my user
[21:33] <espied> what have i got wrong?
[21:33] <Seveas> espied: what's the output of ls -lad /storage ?
[21:34] <espied> drw-r-Sr-- 2 espied espied 4096 Nov 29 19:07 /storage
[21:34] <blackflow> espied: you've set 644 on a directory that should have 755
[21:34] <ash_workz> is apachectl an ubuntu thing?
[21:35] <ash_workz> I mean is that a community 3rd party apache tool?
[21:35] <nacc> ash_workz: i believe apachectl is a debian/ubuntu-ism, yeah
[21:35] <ash_workz> because I don't think #httpd will help me with that
[21:35] <Seveas> ash_workz: no, it's an apache thing :)
[21:35] <ash_workz> nacc: is there a better channel to ask about it
[21:35] <ash_workz> ?
[21:36] <nacc> ash_workz: well, actually, i'm not sure, a2enmod/a2dismod is a debian/ubuntu thing -- apachectl may be an upstream tool
[21:36] <gopnik_> Hi, for some reason my server isn't accepting key based authentication, it just prompts for a password, is there a sshd configuration to enable this?
[21:36] <nacc> ash_workz: what's your question?
[21:36] <Seveas> nacc: ooh, TIL. apachectl is indeed a debianism
[21:36] <ash_workz> nacc: because I am wondering why apachectl -M lists modules as x_module instead of how the mods appear on Apache.org (which is mod_x)
[21:36] <gopnik_> I would like to keep password based auth in addition to key based authentication
[21:36] <gopnik_> Key based auth is just not working at the moment
[21:37] <nacc> ash_workz: apachectl has the naming hardcoded
[21:37] <nacc> ash_workz: iirc, it looks at the apache module's ame, then just suffixes _module
[21:37] <blackflow> gopnik_: pastebin your sshd_config
[21:37] <CDO20> Hey guys.  I currently have Ubuntu on my machine and I'm planning to wipe Ubuntu and use Windows.  Ubuntu is on my SSD and I also have a HDD.  If I wipe the SSD to install Windows my HDD should be fine and not lose any data correct?  Here's a paste of fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555183/
[21:37] <ash_workz> okay, but where does it get it's name?
[21:37] <nacc> ash_workz: what are the 'it's in that question?
[21:38] <gopnik_> blackflow, http://pastebin.com/MiyzeQ8Y thanks
[21:38] <Seveas> gopnik_: PubkeyAuthentication yes
[21:38] <ash_workz> because I can't be trying to look if I have a module installed if the pub says "mod_x" and who knows if "x_module" is how apachectl describes it
[21:38] <ash_workz> nacc: ^
[21:39] <Seveas> gopnik_: also, why did you comment out most of the config? That's generally not a good idea
[21:39] <espied> blackflow: i guess my i have understanding of the permissions is incorrect, 755 behaves normally
[21:39] <gopnik_> Seveas, not my server
[21:39] <ash_workz> nacc: would a concrete example help?
[21:39] <CDO20> Sorry bad paste... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555189/
[21:39] <gopnik_> I'm just a root user, friends server
[21:39] <blackflow> gopnik_: under what user are you ssh-ing in?
[21:39] <gopnik_> just my user (gopnik)
[21:39] <nacc> ash_workz: what 'pub' ?
[21:40] <Seveas> gopnik_: in that case just uncomment the PubkeyAuthentication yes line :)
[21:40] <gopnik_> Thanks!
[21:40] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ you still there?
[21:41] <blackflow> gopnik_: also disable PasswordAuthentication, and set UsePAM no
[21:41] <_Sym_> Should I disable tpm in my bios?
[21:41] <gopnik_> blackflow, not my server, the other users need password auth
[21:41] <blackflow> gopnik_: and make sure that your user's .ssh dir and authorized_keys inside are both owned by the user that's ssh-ing in
[21:41] <gopnik_> what about pam?
[21:41] <blackflow> gopnik_: then leave it on
[21:41] <Bashing-om> CDO20: So long as you do not reboot . then sda will not be touched unless you direct so . Does not Windows default to installing to the 1st hard drive (sda ) ?
[21:42] <blackflow> gopnik_: and note that if you allow both, pubkey auth has NO security advantage over passwords
[21:42] <gopnik_> blackflow, I'm doing this for my convinience, not typing in password
[21:42] <blackflow> you might wish to use the Match directive and those users who want pubkey, explicitly disable passwords, to regain the security advantage
[21:42] <gopnik_> I understand the risk of leaving on passwords :(
[21:42] <CDO20> Bashing-om: I haven't tried yet.  Just wanted to make sure it wouldn't be touched.
[21:43] <CDO20> Bashing-om: Also want to make sure that windows will be able to access and use a ext4 type
[21:43] <gopnik_> drwx------.  2 ME  ME             4096 Sep 24 10:13 .ssh are these the correct permissions?
[21:43] <Seveas> gopnik_: yup.
[21:43] <gopnik_> authorized keys has the same permissions
[21:43] <Random832> technically depends on what that dot at the end means
[21:44] <gopnik_> huh, odd, still not working. I will dig into it
[21:44] <Bashing-om> CDO20: If you are just going to RE-install Windows, I do not see how there could be a problem . But the folks in the #windows channel will be better able to advise .
[21:44] <ash_workz> nacc: falling back on a concrete example: "An issue was found in mod_cgid." -- says a scan... I don't know what you call the "CVE-*" links... so I said "pub"... anyway; can I rely on `apachectl -M | grep 'cgid_module'` to tell me if I have mod_cgid?
[21:44] <blackflow> gopnik_: you mean same class, aka 600 ? :)
[21:44] <Random832> gopnik_, are you sure it's in your home dir?
[21:44] <blackflow> gopnik_: the user account has set password and is unlocked?
[21:44] <nacc> ash_workz: why wouldn't you use 'cgid' ?
[21:44] <Seveas> gopnik_: journalctl -xe --identifier sshd
[21:44] <CDO20> Bashing-om: Perfect.  Appreciate the help
[21:44] <Seveas> or from the client ssh -vvv
[21:44] <nacc> ash_workz: or use a | regex
[21:44] <blackflow> gopnik_: ssh won't allow login into passwordless accounts, pubkey or not pubkey, so the user must have set a password and be unlocked (passwd -u ME)
[21:45] <Bashing-om> CDO20: For windows to see ext4 ya got to install the tools on Windows . Does not out of the box .
[21:45] <gopnik_> I have a password
[21:45] <gopnik_> Random832, it is in my home directory
[21:45] <hihi> installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/4.4.0-21-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[21:45] <hihi> Anyone knows how to fix it  ?
[21:45] <gopnik_> Specifically /home/ME/.ssh
[21:45] <ash_workz> nacc: you mean just grep 'cgid';  that's great and all, but I'm pretty confident there are cases were that may produce undesired results
[21:45] <hihi> uname -a prints good headers
[21:45] <Aiirborne> Can anyone help me boot ubuntu14.04.iso from grub2? I got the grub menu created but when I boot the iso from grub I get "line 46 can't open /dev/sr0 no medium found" and "Could not find the iso reboot to window run chkdsk /r and fully shut down etc etc"
[21:46] <ash_workz> nacc: I mean, basically I just want to check if a particular module listed on apache.org as mod_x is installed (reliably)
[21:46] <gopnik_> debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/gopnik/.ssh/id_rsa
[21:46] <gopnik_> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic,password
[21:46] <gopnik_> This seems to stick out on ssh -v
[21:46] <nacc> ash_workz: you're trying to predictively determine if you're affected by a CVE -- it's better to have false positives than false negatives.
[21:46] <nacc> ash_workz: but that's neither here nor there
[21:46] <blackflow> gopnik_: did you read my comment about unlocking the account?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[21:46] <Seveas> gopnik_: good. Does .ssh/authorized_keys on the server match .ssh/id_rsa.pub on the client?
[21:47] <ash_workz> nacc: I'm trying to determine if a CVE is applicable to me
[21:47] <Seveas> Aiirborne: [fair warning, I have no experience booting isos] /dev/sr0 is a real cd drive, shouldn't that be using /dev/loop0 or whichever loop device you chose to mount the iso?
[21:47] <Bashing-om> hihi: ^^ Package system broke ? or not updated as the above is the kernel you should be up on .
[21:47] <CDO20> Bashing-om: Hmm okay.  And there's no way to change EXT4 to NFTS without formatting the drive correct?
[21:47] <nacc> ash_workz: i think in general, apachectl outputs "module name"_module for all apache modules
[21:47] <gopnik_> blackflow, my account has a password, what does unlocking the account do?
[21:47] <ash_workz> nacc: or rather, if I need to investigate the CVE more closely to resolve whatever impact closing the vulnerability may have
[21:48] <nacc> ash_workz: a module's name is not mod_cgid or cgid_module, but cgid, imo
[21:48] <Bashing-om> CDO20: Vorrect . If ya change the file system type ya get a new partition table .
[21:48] <younder> Aiirborne, That sounds wrong to me. Why do you think the cdrom driver is loaded (well the format) before the kernel is?
[21:48] <ash_workz> nacc: well, I'm annoyed at the naming convention entirely
[21:49] <_Sym_> what is the intel trusted platform module (tpm) used for anyway... I always wondered why i had that error in dmesg
[21:49] <gopnik_> Seveas, oh snap this may be it
[21:49] <gopnik_> one sec
[21:49] <Aiirborne> Seveas younder I have no idea what I'm doing but I did set the loopback loop  when I made the menu entry
[21:49] <_Sym_> I set it to hidden in the bios and now the error is gone
[21:49] <nacc> ash_workz: that's very unforunate for you; not really the point. Also, I feel like you're reading the wrong text(s)
[21:49] <Bashing-om> CDO20: But if ya gonna RE-install Windows, the installer will re-format the partitions anyway .
[21:49] <nacc> ash_workz: e.g.: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_cgid.html
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Aiirborne: Follow this guide: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[21:50] <nacc> ash_workz: clearly says the "module identifier" is cgid_module
[21:50] <nacc> ash_workz: 'mod_cgid' is the .c file's name, nothing else (at least not guaranteed)
[21:50] <hihi> bashing-om - i heard that i need to link something with something
[21:50] <hihi> about that kernel thing
[21:50] <ash_workz> nacc: so, I can rely on what's listed under "module identifier"
[21:51] <nacc> ash_workz: i think so, but i'm not guaranteeing anything
[21:51] <nacc> ash_workz: you'd need to test it to see
[21:51] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/24818.html
[21:52] <_Sym_> thanks Jordan_U
[21:53] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: You're welcome.
[21:54] <Bashing-om> hihi: Well, rather beloeve something on your system is not right . ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' do you see "ii  linux-generic ; ii  linux-image-generic" in that output ?
[21:54] <Aiirborne> Jordan_U do you mind taking a look at my grub menu entry http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555258
[21:55] <gopnik_> getting this when I try to ssh now
[21:55] <gopnik_> debug2: input_userauth_pk_ok: fp SHA256:RUDlzsiNLVsJhd4y/a8yUL4W5lRdsA0/gGlztMzueUs
[21:55] <gopnik_> sign_and_send_pubkey: signing failed: agent refused operation
[21:56] <blackflow> gopnik_: is the key RSA or DSA?
[21:56] <gopnik_> RSA
[21:57] <gopnik_> just before that I got debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/gopnik/.ssh/id_rsa
[21:57] <gopnik_> And the server accepted it
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Aiirborne: $isofile should contain the full path to the iso, but I would prefer if you used the guide I linked to to make your entry.
[21:58] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, it sounds like tpm is not very useful for ubuntu and most people recommend disabling it
[21:59] <_Sym_> It sounds like tpm is mostly used for windows 10
[21:59] <Aiirborne> Jordan_U ok I am trying to use the guide now
[22:00] <Jordanshackelfor> Hello
[22:00] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Correct. To use a TPM properly in any major desktop distro unfortunately takes a prohibitively large amount of manual configuration. (CoreOS last I looked is the only major distro that supports TPMs out of the box, and it's a distro for containers so definitely not desktop oriented.
[22:00] <Jordanshackelfor> I have a quick question, didn't know where else to ask
[22:00] <hihi> Bashing-om:           dpkg -l | grep - linux-generic
[22:00] <hihi> grep: linux-generic: No such file or directory
[22:01] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: And Chromium OS actually makes great use of a TPM out of the box.
[22:01] <Jordanshackelfor> Trying to replace power supply on desktop. How do I unplug the wires that go into the power button?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Jordanshackelfor: That's a question for ##hardware.
[22:01] <bazhang> ##hardware for that Jordanshackelfor
[22:02] <Jordanshackelfor> Kthanksbai
[22:02] <Nicmavr> So I have a PC which has no operating systems currently installed. I'd like to dual-boot with windows 7 and ubuntu, which one is best to install first?
[22:02] <_Sym_> It can be used for disk encryption or hacked to store drm keys
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: Windows.
[22:02] <Nicmavr> Jordan_U, thanks
[22:02] <_Sym_> thanks again, Jordan_U
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: You're welcome.
[22:03] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: You're welcome.
[22:04] <Bashing-om> hihi: Ya want that as ' dpkg -l | grep linux-generic ' .
[22:04] <bazhang> hihi, is this a MINT issue
[22:04] <hihi> Well I am using mint
[22:04] <nicomachus> !mint | hihi
[22:05] <hihi> But whos issue is that,  I have no idea, and Bashing-om: output is empty
[22:05] <hihi> Tho nobody replying there
[22:05] <Nicmavr> Jordan_U, also do you know if there's any programs for ubuntu that regulate battery consumption for a laptop?
[22:05] <bazhang> then wait hihi
[22:05] <hihi> :P
[22:05] <nicomachus> not our problem, hihi
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: What do you mean by regulate?
[22:06] <mich> I've tried to upgrade 3 times and nothing happens....has anyone had this problem when they tried to upgrade?
[22:07] <Nicmavr> Jordan_U, like in windows where the OS sort of regulates what hardware/programs run in the background for optimal battery life. Ubuntu doesn't have that right?
[22:07] <nicomachus> mich: upgrade? as in sudo apt upgrade?
[22:07] <mich> it seems ubuntu fails to upgrade every time... is that why people are leaving this distro?
[22:07] <mich> nicomachus, no, I am following the instructions on ubuntu's very own pages
[22:07] <nicomachus> mich: what instructions are those?
[22:07] <nacc> mich: from what are you trying to upgrade and to what?
[22:07] <Bashing-om> hihi: get the system updated and the required linux-generic installed if ya going to build packages on that system .
[22:08] <mich> can someone who knows what they are talking about talk to me, please?
[22:08] <nicomachus> mich: can you answer questions, please?
[22:08] <mich> 15.10 to 16,10 but the software states the newest OS is 16.04
[22:08] <nacc> mich: you can't update from 15.10 to 16.10
[22:08] <mich> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[22:08] <nacc> mich: 15.10 is eol, you must first update to 16.04
[22:09] <nicomachus> !EOL | mich
[22:09] <mich> nacc, yes, I figured that
[22:09] <nacc> mich: secondly, you probably need to toggle the lts flag in the release upgrader
[22:09] <nicomachus> mich: check that second link.
[22:09] <nacc> mich: once you've updated to 16.04, to update to 16.10
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> mich  what is happening, is perfectly normal
[22:09] <mich> but, how do I initiate the upgrade?   I choose 'upgrade' and it makes me enter my password...then nothing happens
[22:09] <Bashing-om> hihi: As above, if this is mint .. seek help in mint's support channels .
[22:09] <mich> or nothing I can see
[22:10] <nicomachus> mich: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[22:10] <mich> if that's normal, that is pretty awful
[22:10] <hihi> True
[22:10] <nicomachus> just follow the instructions.
[22:10] <nicomachus> mich: you shouldn't have let your distribution go out of service. that's user error, not Ubuntu's fault.
[22:10] <nacc> mich: you chose to put yourself in an unsupported position
[22:10] <mich> I've done this before... I don't ever remember having a problem
[22:10] <nacc> mich: please first follow the help to get to a supported release
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> mich  you should have upgraded, before it was eol
[22:11] <nacc> mich: then you can modify your local configuration to allow for non-lts updates, if you want
[22:13] <mich> so no one is going to tell me how to upgrade to 16.04?  okay
[22:13] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: Ubuntu doesn't have any way for an app to register itself as a "background task" for the purposes of battery regulation. There are tools to help you get better battery life though, like powertop. Obviously, where it is possible to save battery without negatively impacting user experience those strategies are used by default.
[22:13] <tgm4883> mich: you've already been given the link
[22:13] <nacc> mich: we've told you several times.
[22:13] <nicomachus> mich: I literally linked a step by step instruction page to you twice.
[22:14] <BarBQ> monoum i fixed it now with help from a friend. I had to remove openssh-server and reinstall it again and that fixed it.
[22:14] <nicomachus> so complain all you want, but you can go troll somewhere else.
[22:14] <tgm4883> something something leading a horse to water...
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> tgm4883  you can lead a horse to the water, but it has to drink by herself (or similar)
[22:15] <nacc> MonkeyDust: i think tgm4883 was making a joke :)
[22:15] <tgm4883> :)
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> nacc  i know i know ...
[22:16] <tgm4883> something something knowing is half the battle ;)
[22:16] <xfceone> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Ubuntu 16.04
[22:16] <aiirborne> Jordan_U well it loads the menu now that lets me pick if I want to try ubuntu, install ubuntu, check disk, check memory but then I get the same error after I select any of the options
[22:16] <xfceone> apt-get install not working
[22:17] <nicomachus> xfceone: can you paste the full output of that?
[22:17] <mich> no wonder people are leaving this distro
[22:17] <nicomachus> mich: please go away.
[22:17] <nacc> !pastebin | xfceone: please pastebin the full output from the command you used (including the command):
[22:18] <Bashing-om> mich: If you can not take notes, and can not keep up - you are welcome to leave .
[22:18] <nacc> mich: i'm not sure what more you would like us to provide. You were given several links to the instructions to upgrade an EOL release to a supported one. Please do that first.
[22:18] <mich> xfceone, you won't get any help here, just arrogant people
[22:18] <nicomachus> !ops | mich
[22:18] <xfceone> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:18] <tgm4883> mich: you've been given the guide to update from your EOL release. If you are having trouble with some part of that guide then state which part. Otherwise kindly stop
[22:18] <xfceone> I try to install gcc
[22:18] <nacc> xfceone: please use a pastebin, as requested
[22:19] <nacc> xfceone: we need to see the whole command, and the whole output
[22:19] <tgm4883> !eol | mich in case you missed this
[22:19] <xfceone> ok
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> mich  help *was* offered, it's you not accepting it and doing nothing with it
[22:19] <nicomachus> no more feeding the trolls, everyone.
[22:19] <_Sym_> If ubuntu is having problems detecting the correct mtrr configuration for my bios, what is the optimal gran_size and chunk_size I should manually set it to?
[22:20] <_Sym_> the one that uses the lowest ram?
[22:21] <nicomachus> thanks Jordan_U
[22:21] <Jordan_U> mich: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your mute.
[22:22] <xfceone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555384/
[22:22] <xfceone> something like this i
[22:22] <nicomachus> xfceone: sudo apt -f install
[22:22] <xfceone> not working
[22:22] <aiirborne> well if anyone wants to help me install 14.04 from an iso on a 2nd partion with grub I'd love some help. I created the menu entry with the guide that I was given and I can boot to the options where I can select to try / install / check disk/ etc but after I select one I get an error about the iso could not be found and something about /dev/sr0
[22:23] <xfceone> I tried all helps from ubuntu sites
[22:23] <Seveas> xfceone: there's no such thing as 'package1' in Ubuntu. Either pastebin the real output, or remove the unsupported software.
[22:23] <nacc> xfceone: please pastebin the *exact* command and output used
[22:23] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: What filesystem is the iso being stored on?
[22:23] <nacc> !info gcc-5 xenial
[22:23] <aiirborne> Jordan_U ext4
[22:23] <nacc> xfceone: --^ that is the version on 16.04 currently, not what your system is reporting, as well.
[22:24] <xfceone> sudo apt-get install gcc
[22:24] <nicomachus> !info gcc-5 trusty
[22:24] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/custom.cfg .
[22:24] <Seveas> nacc: the output is a dependency, not the available version :)
[22:24] <nicomachus> xfceone: need the full command and output in the pastebin. please. again.
[22:24] <xfceone> ok just a moment
[22:24] <Seveas> xfceone: and no editing.
[22:24] <nacc> Seveas: ah good point :)
[22:26] <aiirborne> Jordan_U this is the loopback.cfg like from the guide http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555402
[22:26] <_Sym_> mtrr sanitizer is unable to automatically choose from several options of memory layout on my system
[22:26] <WPX> Hello
[22:26] <Seveas> ohai WPX
[22:26] <WPX> I've a problem .. there is a shell file did a remove to all files
[22:26] <posi> I have a really big binary, anyway to figure out what makes it up?
[22:26] <_Sym_> I chose the values that use the lowest amount of ram
[22:26] <WPX> rm -R -f /var/lib/mysql/*
[22:27] <_Sym_> but I have no idea which one is the best one to use
[22:27] <WPX> how to restore them please
[22:27] <nacc> WPX: do you ahve backups?
[22:27] <Seveas> WPX: restore them from backup
[22:27] <WPX> SADLY NOOO :(
[22:27] <nacc> WPX: then no, there's no recovery
[22:27] <WPX> SURE ?
[22:27] <xfceone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555403
[22:27] <Seveas> WPX: or find an expensive data recovery company.
[22:27] <WPX> on windows. I can run program to restore files
[22:28] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: That's not from the guide I linked you to.
[22:28] <nicomachus> xfceone: that's not the full output.
[22:28] <xfceone> it is
[22:28] <Seveas> WPX: linux is less forgiving. If mysql is still running with all tables open, you may be able to recover some data.
[22:28] <nacc> xfceone: let's say it is, please provide the output of `apt install gcc gcc-5`
[22:28] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Ahh, I see. You should be looking at the section "How do I use a loopback.cfg", not "How do I create a loopback.cfg".
[22:28] <aiirborne> Jordan_U maybe I misread/mistyped but thats what the guide said or I'm doing something wrong
[22:29] <xfceone> ok
[22:29] <Seveas> xfceone: and pastebin the unedited content of /etc/apt/sources.list and all files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:29] <WPX> sadly, the shell script stoped the services before delete
[22:29] <Seveas> WPX: well, you're screwed.
[22:29] <tgm4883> WPX: out of curiosity, why was that trying to touch the mysql files directly? That seems like bad design
[22:30] <abaldygle> WPX:   Like we said in #mysql    recover from backup  Dont take candy from strangers and if you do, read the script before running it.
[22:30] <WPX> stupid script .... to install ZPANEL
[22:30] <xfceone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555415
[22:30] <aiirborne> Jordan_U I followed that and the menu entry that looks like that is saved in /etc/grub.d/ but there was no loopback.cfg in /boot/grub/ so I made that too.. I don't think I really understand what I need to do
[22:30] <tgm4883> Seveas: well not screwed, couldn't he try to recover the files with something like testdisk?
[22:31] <nicomachus> xfceone: looks like dependency hell. I second Seveas. Need to see sources.list and sources.list.d
[22:31] <tgm4883> I mean, it's a last ditch effort at this point
[22:31] <xfceone> ok
[22:31] <Seveas> WPX: power the system down. Boot from a live cd. Make a bit-by-bit copy of the drive with dd. Run photorec or other recovery software on that image. Pray.
[22:31] <aiirborne> I'm really just trying to reinstall so I can do my school work... my car broke down on the way back home from thanks giving and so I'm stuck here fro the next few days til it gets fixed
[22:32] <Seveas> and of course you make the copy onto another medium. You must avoid any writes to that drive.
[22:32] <WPX> Seveas: it is a cloud droplet on digital ocean
[22:32] <Seveas> WPX: oh. Then we're back to 'you're screwed'
[22:32] <nacc> xfceone: did you make sure to run `apt update` before running these commands? the version of cpp-5 it's referring to is the release version, not the -security or -updates version(s)
[22:33] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Have you read the section titled "How do you use a loopback.cfg to boot an iso?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> ?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: That is the only section you should be looking at.
[22:34] <xfceone> apt-get update but nothing
[22:34] <aiirborne> Jordan_U yes I have read it is it saying that the menu entry should be in /boot/grub instead of /etc/grub.d
[22:35] <aiirborne> is that what I'm doing wrong?
[22:35] <Seveas> xfceone: more /etc/apt/source.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:35] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Which is true. It should be in /boot/grub/custom.cfg .
[22:35] <xfceone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555432
[22:36] <Seveas> xfceone: that's far from the entire content, and missing all files in sources.list.d
[22:36] <_Sym_> Should mtrr_spare_reg_nr be equal to the number of disabled registers?
[22:36] <Seveas> use the command I just gave to pastebin it all.
[22:37] <xfceone> nc is removed
[22:37] <Seveas> then install it.
[22:38] <xfceone> nothing in list.d
[22:38] <xfceone> I can`t
[22:40] <Seveas> if you want us to support you, you're going to have to provide the information we need to do so. Otherwise this is a pointless exercise in frustration.
[22:40] <xfceone> Seveas thanks
[22:40] <xfceone> try something
[22:40] <xfceone> I can`t install nothing with apt-get
[22:41] <omer> .
[22:41] <omer> ı'm lin
[22:42] <xfceone> It is working now
[22:42] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[22:42] <aiirborne> Jordan_U can you look at my custom.cfg it is in boot/grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555452
[22:42] <xfceone> thanks I checked the updates from Software&Updates
[22:43] <aiirborne> ubuntu.iso is the only thing on sda5
[22:43] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Get rid of everything before the "menuentry" lines. The only thing needed is the menuentry.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: "Replace TITLE with the title you want for the menu entry and PATH with the path to the iso file (not including device name) for example: "/boot-isos/foo.iso"."  The "not including device name" bit is important, so it should be: iso_path="/ubuntu.iso"
[22:45] <aiirborne> Jordan_U ok thanks
[22:45] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: You're welcome.
[22:46] <aiirborne> Jordan_U so it will just find what device it is on?
[22:47] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Correct.
[22:47] <aiirborne> Jordan_U wow awesome thanks again going to try it now
[22:49] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, ok, ill need to reboot. brb
[22:50] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, you want to see dmesg without any changes to the boot command line right?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Correct.
[22:51] <_Sym_> ok.. brb
[22:52] <xfceone> How to extract router firmware .bin file?
[22:54] <bekks> xfceone: Normally, you just upload it to your router.
[22:54] <aiirborne> Jordan_U it worked! thanks! one last question though what is the best way to back up some pictures from terminal?
[22:56] <xfceone> bekks but with Ubuntu?
[22:57] <bekks> xfceone: Open a browser, upload the firmware.
[22:57] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, well, i feel silly.. the problem has fixed itself when I build 4.8.11.  I never tried the latest kernel w/o removing that boot command line. :-)
[22:57] <bazhang> xfceone, through the router via the browser
[22:57] <xfceone> I need to see the source code for firmware
[22:57] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, I probably would not have tried if you did not ask to see the dmesg. lol
[22:57] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: :)
[22:58] <bekks> xfceone: So ask the vendor of your router wether they will provide the sourcecode to you.
[22:58] <bazhang> xfceone, then contact the maker
[22:58] <bekks> xfceone: the binary firmware package does not contain sourcecode.
[22:58] <xfceone> ok thanks
[22:58] <_Sym_> Thats two I owe you now.
[22:59] <xfceone> it is compiled?
[22:59] <_Sym_> I like a dmesg that has no errors. :-)
[22:59] <bekks> xfceone: guess why it is called "binary" :)
[22:59] <xfceone> ok
[22:59] <xfceone> thanks
[22:59] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: "Best" as always depends on you and your exact situation. I would probably use something like "rsync --progress --recursive /path/to/source/directory/ /path/to/destination/directory/" which will copy the directory found at the first path to the directory specified by the second path, showing progress of the copy as it goes.
[23:00] <_Sym_> 0.000000] Found optimal setting for mtrr clean up :-)
[23:00] <_Sym_> super
[23:02] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, I just have one last question.  I see this "total RAM covered: 14512M" in the MTRR output, but I only have 8GB RAM.. how is that number derived?
[23:04] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Please pastebin your full dmesg and the output of "free -m".
[23:06] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/HBix2gbj
[23:07] <Epx998> Does the -np flag in wget not work?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Looks like that's your total virtual memory.
[23:08] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, mem + swap?
[23:09] <_Sym_> because I added that up and its not equal
[23:10] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: mem+swap minus areas that can't be used.
[23:10] <_Sym_> oh
[23:10] <_Sym_> i see
[23:10] <_Sym_> :-D
[23:10] <_Sym_> thanks
[23:11] <_Sym_> You have been a great help to me today
[23:11] <_Sym_> I think I solved everything I wanted fixed
[23:11] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: You're welcome :)
[23:38] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, I think that when I disabled TPM in the bios, it freed up a register that then allowed mtrr sanitizer to find the correct layout.
[23:45] <younder> in 16.04 how do i enable a terminal bell? I tried to find somthing online but nothing works. I have no buildt in speakers.
[23:45] <kk4ewt> so how would you hear the bell
[23:46] <younder> The external speakers work fine
[23:46] <kk4ewt> terminal preferences  profile
[23:47] <younder> kk4ewt, set to bell on
[23:49] <abaldygle> What is the purpose and what does the terminal bell do?
[23:49] <younder> kk4ewt, wait it works now. Anyhow thanks for your time.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> younder: In Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 with Gnome Terminal that alone leads to an alert sound being played for me when the terminal recieves a bell. Do other alerts work?
[23:50] <younder> abaldygle, Actually it deals with a strange bug where a bell character get's displayed when I press tab
[23:55] <FManTropyx> how do I dislodge a stick?
[23:56] <wedgie> FManTropyx: ... we might need some context for that question.
[23:57] <FManTropyx> I wsih to safely remove USB memory, but I cannot find a button for 'safely remove hardware'
[23:58] <wedgie> FManTropyx: what desktop environment? In unity you can right-click it to get that option
[23:58] <FManTropyx> this is Ubuntu Studio, so it has xfce
[23:59] <FManTropyx> ok, I did it in the file manager
[23:59] <FManTropyx> it was well hidden!