=== JasonO- is now known as JasonO === dldurk_ is now known as dldurk === r00tobo[BNC] is now known as r00tobo === Zoohouse is now known as dx43CQ [18:50] Hello everyone [18:55] I try to install the latest lubuntu on my macbook and I get this error at the end: https://imgur.com/a/HYVC7 GRUB installation fails and then the installer crashes. How can I fix this? [18:57] dx43CQ: did you file the bug report? [18:58] wxl, the installer crashes and I can't close out of it. There's no bug report dialog box that appears after the 'installer crash' dialog box. [18:59] dx43CQ: aw heck. [18:59] dx43CQ: you still have the machine on? [18:59] dx43CQ: like, in the installer? [18:59] wxl, yup [18:59] dx43CQ: and this is on real hardware, not a virtual machine, right? [19:00] wxl, real hardware, a MacBook for 2008 [19:00] dx43CQ: okie dokie. let's try to look at the log files and see if we can get some more clues. [19:00] dx43CQ: what we need to do is to open a virtual terminal. [19:01] dx43CQ: traditionally on non-macs this would be as simple as, e.g. ctrl-alt-f2 [19:01] wxl, got LXterminal open [19:01] dx43CQ: i think on macs, you have do like ctrl-fn-option-f2 or something funky like that. i don't remember the combination [19:02] dx43CQ: oh heh, that works too XD [19:02] dx43CQ: log files are kept in /var/log [19:02] dx43CQ: i would examine the apt logs [19:03] wxl, I'm not connected to the Internet, do you think that might be it? When installing, I did choose to 'install 3ed party' apps but there's no Internet connection to the laptop at the moment. [19:03] dx43CQ: so look at /var/log/apt/term.log [19:04] dx43CQ: um, that's possible, but i'd generally expect the grub package to be a normal part of the iso. which iso did you grab? [19:04] dx43CQ: you can `less /var/log/apt/term.log` to page through the file [19:04] lubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso [19:05] dx43CQ: if term.log is 0 size, then you'll need to look at one of the gzipped old logs, which you can do with `zcat /var/log/apt/term.1.log.gz | less` [19:05] dx43CQ: gimme a sec and i'll double check that package is there [19:05] I only have eipp.log.xz and history.log in the apt dir [19:05] huh annoying. [19:05] :) [19:06] dx43CQ: try /var/log/dpkg.log and see if that gives you anything useful. [19:06] for full disclosure, I'm installing over a SD card.. lol [19:06] dx43CQ: to help with these logs, you can install pastebinit with `sudo apt install pastebinit` and then do something like `cat /path/to/log | pastebinit` and it will give you a url you can put here [19:07] oh you would wound't you XD [19:07] haha [19:07] it's worked in the past with ubuntu distros though :D [19:08] so are you on hexchat on THAT machine? cuz i think there's an exec command in hexchat. you could do something like /exec cat /path | pastebinit and it would put the url in this channel but i'm not sure about the syntax with hexchat, so ymmv [19:08] it's probably still supported, but we don't usually test such things [19:08] i doubt even ubuntu proper does [19:08] i've never seen any test cases for that [19:08] I'm on xchat on a different machine [19:08] you can boot an iso on the sd card??? [19:09] btw the manifest file in the cdimage.ubuntu.com directory shows all the included packages http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.10/release/lubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.manifest [19:10] !info grub-efi-amd64-signed [19:10] wxl, I have two computers, the macbook and a PC from 2000ish. I have one ethernet connected to the PC which I will disconntect in a minute to plug into the macbook. give me a sec, im going to get off hexchat while I unplug the ethernet [19:10] Package grub-efi-amd64-signed does not exist in yakkety [19:10] uhhh [19:10] ^^ that may be the problem [19:10] one second [19:10] k === dx43CQ is now known as dx43CQ-PC [19:11] um ubottu you're high. it totally does. [19:15] ok back [19:15] let me get the pastebin package installed one second [19:16] pastebin*IT* [19:19] cool it works [19:19] dx43CQ: anyways, i think it probably tried to grab that from the internets. i don't see it in the manifest. try to reinstall it. [19:20] wxl, ok here it goes, going to paste dokg.log [19:20] try to reinstall what? [19:22] dx43CQ: grub-efi-amd64-signed [19:22] ok [19:22] installing grub-efi-amd64-signed now [19:27] wxl, got a dependency error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23564548/ [19:30] dx43CQ: try `sudo apt -y --reinstall grub-efi-amd64` [19:33] E: Internal Error, No file name for grub-efi-amd64:amd64 and E: Internal Error, No file name for grub-efi-amd64-signed:amd64 [19:34] i have never seen that in my life O_O [19:35] maybe it was a typo [19:35] going to try it again [19:35] no i mean i never seen anything CLOSE to that [19:35] try `sudo dpkg --reconfigure grub-efi-amd64` [19:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23564584/ [19:36] it's installed [19:36] yeah so let's try the reconfigure [19:37] dpkg: error: unknown option --reconfigure [19:38] argh sorry [19:38] rarely have to do this [19:38] `sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64` [19:39] "/var/cache/debconf/config.dat" is locked by another process [19:39] did you close that installer window? [19:40] or do you have synaptic open? [19:40] or another apt running in another window? [19:40] nope [19:40] ugh [19:40] so `sudo lsof | grep config.dat` [19:40] does it return anything? [19:40] (it will take a while) [19:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23564601/ [19:41] so something is still running somewhere [19:42] you could kill it but [19:42] * wxl chews fingernails [19:42] try `wmctrl -lp | grep 8891` [19:43] you may have to install wmctrl [19:44] nothing, blank [19:44] just installed it [19:44] returns nothing [19:44] ok so it's running in the background somewhere [19:44] * wxl siiighs [19:44] Can it be the installer that crashed? [19:44] give me `ps aux | grep 8891` [19:44] might be, but it's still running somewhere, or at least some part of it is [19:45] can we remove the lock? [19:45] working towards that [19:45] want to see the state the process is in [19:45] ok [19:49] I accidently crashed my laptop when trying to connect an external monitor (half of the LEDS on the laptop are dead) [19:51] wxl, I am about to try to reinstall lubuntu. Do you want me to try something before I start the installation? [19:51] dx34CQ-PC: naw. you might want to check and be sure the hashes are right and to check the install media, though, if you haven't already [19:53] wxl, good idea [19:56] * dx34CQ-PC checking disk for defects [19:57] er.. can't find the hash file on lubuntu.net... [19:57] yeah well lubuntu.net is not the right website either :/ [19:57] wxl, errors found in 2 files! [19:57] there you go [19:57] that may have been the problem to begin with [19:58] http://lubuntu.me/downloads/ [19:58] wxl, oo [19:59] wxl, why two domains? [19:59] technically there's only one [19:59] lubuntu.me [19:59] the lubuntu.net is maintained entirely by one of the original co-founders of the project, who is no longer involved [20:00] we've been working on getting that changed [20:00] i see [20:00] duck duck go will tell you that lubuntu.me is the official place [20:01] we're also making changes to lubuntu.me's SEO to increase its ranging on google [20:01] all of this stuff takes time, though [20:05] dx46CQ-PC: were the hashes right? [20:06] PC crashed on me [20:06] im redownloading it and will check [20:11] wxl, md5sum checks out [20:11] dx46CQ-PC: then it may be a copying error. [20:11] dx46CQ-PC: HOPEFULLY it's not an error with your SD card or the reader itself [20:12] dx46CQ-PC: or worse yet the driver in the kernel :/ [20:12] will install onto SD card using startup disk creator [20:22] wxl, Finished, going to run the 'check the disk for defects' utility again. [20:23] wxl, Again, 2 errors. [20:23] dx46CQ-PC: did the hashes workout, though? [20:24] wxl, yeah the hash returned OK [20:24] darn... let me see if I find another medium [20:24] dx46CQ-PC: so probably something related to the sd card. or your methodology. you might try using dd [20:24] dx46CQ-PC: there have been a plethora of problems with image writing tools lately [20:25] wxl, do I have to format the SD card before using dd? [20:25] it's a good idea [20:26] Are you sure sd card is a bootable device [20:26] well he DID boot it [20:26] ok [20:26] sorry about the assumption of gender [20:26] lynorian, I boot off it [20:26] * dx46CQ-PC is male [20:26] (and gender identity) XD [20:26] I should have read the scrollup more [20:27] funny story, I'm in this mess because I was using dd on the SD card for my raspberry pi and I accidentally dd my hard drive on my laptop xD [20:27] oh man [20:28] * wxl remembers the time he `rm -rf`'d /etc [20:28] * lynorian uses lsblk to make sure I have the right device [20:44] wxl, would this be ok? my SD card is sdc1 dd bs=1M if="lubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso" of=/dev/sdc [20:44] dx46CQ-PC: as long as sdc is not your hard drive XD [20:44] :P [20:45] does /dev/sdc need to be unmounted? [20:45] yeppers [20:46] * dx46CQ-PC sees the lights on the SD card reader blinking and lets out a sigh of relief. [20:47] XD [20:49] * dx46CQ-PC ran sync and is running the disk error utility [20:49] There were 2 boot options this time I booted from the SD card on the MacBook, weird. [20:50] NO ERROS!!! wxl [20:58] Hello [20:58] wxl, ok so I ran the disk error utility and I got the GRUB installation Failed warning again. [20:59] dx46CQ-PC: so there were no hash errors and the boot disk check worked ok? [20:59] The differeance this time is that nothing got stuck and it rand a dignostic for bug reporting. [21:00] dx46CQ-PC: hm. do you have some other media you can use? [21:00] I was wondering if lubuntu is really lighter than unbuntu because I just installer unbuntu and it is very slow [21:00] thanks for your help [21:00] matt16: it definitely is. [21:01] matt16, yes, much lighter on the resources. [21:01] wxl I have to look around. [21:01] wxl, I'm going to disconnect the PC and connect the eth to the laptop so I can send the report to the devs [21:01] Ok should I download the 32 or 64 version for my mid 2009 macbook unibody ? [21:02] matt16: amd64 [21:03] dx46CQ-PC: ok. i'm very baffled by this frankly. i have to wonder if you'd have the same problem if you had the thing connect to the ethernet. [21:03] dx46CQ-PC: this time did you REMOVE the check for the 3rd party updates? [21:03] great ! thank you so much for your help [21:03] I'll download it right now [21:03] have a nice day [21:06] ok [21:06] back [21:16] wxl, I am still getting this error when I try to install grub via command line https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23564927/ [21:17] dx46CQ: you should do grub-efi-amd64 before grub-efi-amd64-signed [21:18] wxl, that also gives me an error. https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23564933/ [21:19] argh something about debconf [21:19] dx46CQ: could you give me `ps aux | grep -i [d]ebconf` [21:20] there you go wxl [21:20] it's null? [21:21] What do you mean if it's null? [21:21] you didn't send anything [21:21] null means nothing [21:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23564937/ [21:21] liike not zero, but nothing [21:22] yeah, it has 2 processes listed, I'm looking at it now.. [21:22] so it's in interruptable sleep (that's the S; man ps if you want to learn more) [21:22] is ubiquity still running? [21:22] (ps aux | grep -i [u]biquity or pidof ubiquity) [21:23] grep: ubiquity: No such file or directory [21:23] you must have done something wrong [21:23] missed the pipe perhaps? [21:24] ps aux | grep -i [u]biquity [21:24] let me recheck [21:24] ^^ type that exactly [21:24] everything is S [21:25] oh sorry, I thought /exec was sending the link! [21:25] just realized it was not [21:26] wxl, ps aux | grep -i [d]ebconf = http://paste.ubuntu.com/23564937/ AND ps aux | grep -i [u]biquity = http://paste.ubuntu.com/23564942/ [21:26] dx46CQ: yeah like i said, i wasn't SURE about the exec syntax on (he)xchat. i use irssi [21:27] ok lot of ubiquity still running [21:27] huh all sleeping [21:27] ahhh [21:27] all based on apport [21:27] do you still have the "file a bug" window open? [21:28] wxl, no I filed the bug and submitted it. Now I have a normal running desktop. [21:29] Ubiquity is the installation wizard? [21:29] dx46CQ: then i'd try killing all those processes. since 23235 is the session leader, you might start there. `kill -9 23235` [21:29] yep [21:29] and apport collects logs and stuff to help with filing bugs [21:29] you can see that process is using python to run apport with ubiquity as an argument [21:30] i does anybody speak frenche ? [21:30] ps aux | grep -i [u]biquity returns NULL [21:31] that's good :) [21:31] !fr | jous [21:31] jous: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [21:31] NOW try the install again, dx46CQ [21:31] * dx46CQ double clicking on the install [21:31] no [21:31] waaaaaait [21:31] * dx46CQ is waiting [21:31] i mean try to do the reinstall of the grub-efi-amd64 [21:32] crap ok [21:32] lol [21:32] XD [21:32] i guess i have to kill the job again huh? lol let me check to make sure it isn't running again [21:32] ps aux | grep -i [u]biquity retuns NULL [21:33] now you're getting the hang of it :) [21:33] * wxl must mention that as a result of researching things around this topic, that he just found `pstree` which with the `p PID` argument shows a very nice tree of threads [21:33] wxl, lol It's sad that I've been using linux for so long and still need someone to hold my hand. [21:33] ok it installed [21:34] going to install *-signed now [21:34] dx46CQ: it's not so much as holding your hand as it is nudging you along, but point taken :) [21:34] grub-efi-amd64-signed is already the newest version (1.74+2.02~beta2-36ubuntu11). [21:34] * dx46CQ gives the thumbs up for grub [21:34] do the dpkg-reconfigure on them, one at a time, to be sure [21:34] ok [21:38] wxl, do I leave the "linux command line" part empty? The instruction in the reconfig says I can leave it empty [21:39] How to get the wifi pack for Lubuntu ? please [21:39] dx46CQ: yes [21:39] tsimonq2: sthut up and read your telegram. [21:39] oops wrong channel hahaha [21:39] jous: pastebin the results of lspci, please [21:41] wxl, should I "Force extra installation to the EFI removable media path?" I don't have any other OS on this MacBook [21:41] sylvain@sylvain-HP-Pavilion-15-Notebook-PC:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller (rev 0b) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b) 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC (rev 04) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 S [21:41] dx46CQ: probably. [21:41] jous: `lspci -nnk | pastebinit` [21:42] * dx46CQ going to reconfigure *-signed now [21:43] wxl, sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64-signed returns nothing [21:43] dx46CQ: that's not a bad sign :) [21:43] Is this the moment of truth where I restart and hope it works? [21:43] seems like it [21:43] oh boy... here we go... [21:43] 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller [8086:0a04] (rev 0b) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller [103c:2281] Kernel driver in use: hsw_uncore 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 0b) DeviceName: Intel(R) Graphics GT2 Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controlle [21:44] jous: i can't see all of it, which is why i suggest using pastebinit [21:44] !paste | jous [21:44] jous: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:45] okk sorry i gonna try [21:46] jous, Utilisez http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ pour éviter d'inonder le chat et également pour conserver la mise en forme. [21:49] wxl, this was the result https://imgur.com/NAKE5DG [21:49] :( [21:49] aw bah [21:49] it might be an update grub issue [21:49] you can try this [21:49] https://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd [21:51] dx46CQ-PC: either way, it seems to need a bug report. [21:52] yea [21:53] unfortunately i know we didn't have this problem on several other machines [21:57] wxl, how do I determine which sda partition I should mount? [21:57] wait a minute! [21:58] wxl, I forgot to mount the laptop's file system when installing grub!!! :D [21:58] dx46CQ-PC: omg. [21:58] * wxl facepalms [21:58] apt didn't install it onto the laptop ::facepalm:: [21:58] dx46CQ-PC: i'm the idiot who led you astray! [21:59] haha nah it's ok [21:59] dx46CQ-PC: so just follow these instructions but do the reinstall instead [21:59] my live CD had grub all nice and configured. :D [21:59] yea [22:00] how do I know which partition of sda I need to mount? [22:01] I have: sda, sda1 - sda3 [22:05] ps aux | grep -i [d]ebconf [22:06] dx46CQ-PC: `sudo fdisk -l` should make it clear [22:08] "/dev/sda2 1050624 304723967 303673344 144.8G Linux filesystem" found it [22:10] This is my boot part ion? /dev/sda1 2048 1050623 1048576 512M EFI System that needs to be mounted to /mnt/boot ?? [22:13] nevermind wxl, I just saw fstab doesn't have /boot [22:14] oh wait, just it does... [22:33] wxl, I have everything mounted as the article says but I can not use apt to install packages am I supposed to bind something else? [22:36] wxl, actually, it seems that grub-common is the only grub package available... [22:40] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23565160/ [22:42] so I figured that the apt source list was out of date and tried to update them. Got an error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23565161/ [22:43] ping: yahoo.com: Temporary failure in name resolution [22:43] So light locker is not functioning again [22:43] Working* [22:58] wxl, fixed the problem with the network, had to add a DNS to /etc/resolve.conf [23:01] wxl, I installed and reconfigured grub-efi-amd64 and grub-efi-amd64-signed [23:01] the moment of truth... [23:02] still no grub. [23:41] I get this error when I chroot and run the reconfigure command for grub. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23565431/ [23:53] wxl, Just tried grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/EFI/ and it installed something there. Let's see if that makes any diff [23:55] no go :( [23:56] I'm going to try Linux Mint see if there's any difference. It's what I used to use on this laptop. Darn, I wanted to try lubuntu