[00:03] <EriC^^> kw1234: what's the problem?
[00:03] <kw1234> Bashing-om: well, I am in BIOS now, and I see that my ssd is configured to boot in "AHCI" mode whatever it means, and I cannot select UEFI mode for it.
[00:05] <Bashing-om> kw1234: with an SSD you do want "AHCI" . Welp, I guess now we try and re-install grub .
[00:06] <kw1234> Bashing-om: does not boot.
[00:07] <yorwos> yes,it seems recordmydesktop deletes the folder in /tmp when encoding is finished , reloaded the program and checked it
[00:08] <yorwos> i only have to undelete the folders in /tmp and re-encode the thing if it still works
[00:09] <kw1234_> EriC^^: well. system does not recognze boot device anymore. Bashing-om: helping...
[00:10] <EriC^^> kw1234_: no grub nothing?
[00:10] <kw1234_> EriC^^: exactly.
[00:11] <kw1234_> EriC^^: Started after last kernel update.
[00:11] <EriC^^> what does it say exactly?
[00:11] <yorwos> any ideas how to unmount /tmp without hard reseting ?
[00:12] <reisio> yorwos: usually part of /
[00:12] <kw1234_> EriC^^: "Reboot and Select proper Boot device\nor Insert Boot Media in Selected Boot device and press a key"
[00:13] <reisio> I believe /tmp is only cleared when booting up, sometimes, and not when shutting down, but please don't quote me on that
[00:13] <kw1234_> \n -> new line.
[00:13] <nacc> yorwos: do you actually have a fs mounted on /tmp?
[00:13] <Bashing-om> kw1234: EriC^^ is much better at this than I .. EriC^^ if ya got the time glad for uou to take over and find where the fault lies .
[00:14] <yorwos> fs= ?  my /tmp is in it's own partition
[00:15] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: There is this worry : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23560350/. fsck runs clean however .
[00:17] <avenger_q> UBUNTO IS FOR MEN WHO SUCK COCK????
[00:17] <avenger_q> UBUNTO IS FOR MEN WHO SUCK COCK????
[00:17] <EriC^^> kw1234_: can you boot a live usb? Bashing-om we'll try to reinstall grub
[00:17] <avenger_q> GRUB MY COCK
[00:17] <EriC^^> avenger_q: go play in ##c
[00:19] <guzzlefry> 0.o
[00:19] <kw1234_> EriC^^: yes, can do it
[00:20] <EriC^^> kw1234_: ok, please do
[00:22] <yorwos> i found a livecd(usb) for gparted , if i hard reset the machine i should be albe to install from within the livecd an undelete program and try it yes ?
[00:23] <EriC^^> yorwos: what's the problem?
[00:23] <yorwos> im trying to undelete a folder in /tmp , created from recordmydesktop to re-encode the staff cause its missing the last minutes of the video
[00:24] <kw1234> EriC^^: ok, I am in
[00:24] <EriC^^> yorwos: how was /tmp created
[00:24] <EriC^^> yorwos: type df /tmp
[00:24] <yorwos> separate partiotion when fresh formating the disk for ubuntu
[00:24] <EriC^^> kw1234: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:25] <yorwos> /dev/sdb5        5285496 28276   4988728   1% /tmp
[00:25] <EriC^^> yorwos: ok, try photorec to recover it
[00:25] <kw1234> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/6r88
[00:25] <yorwos> without unmounting it ? straight recover ?
[00:25] <yorwos> would it work ?
[00:25] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install testdisk, then sudo photorec /dev/sdb5
[00:26] <EriC^^> yorwos: yeah
[00:26] <yorwos> ok !
[00:27] <EriC^^> kw1234: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[00:27] <kw1234> EriC^^: done
[00:28] <EriC^^> kw1234: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[00:28] <kw1234> EriC^^: done
[00:28] <EriC^^> kw1234: sudo chroot /mnt
[00:29] <kw1234> EriC^^: done
[00:29] <EriC^^> kw1234: mount -a
[00:29] <kw1234> EriC^^: done
[00:29] <EriC^^> try ls /sys/firmware/efi
[00:30] <kw1234> EriC^^: config_table  efivars  fw_platform_size  fw_vendor  runtime  runtime-map  systab  vars
[00:30] <EriC^^> does it return a bunch of dirs?
[00:30] <Dr-008> good day everyone, i want to start dnsmasq later then all the rest. is there a way to do this via update-rc ?
[00:30] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[00:30] <EriC^^> kw1234: try grub-install
[00:30] <EriC^^> then update-grub
[00:30] <Dr-008> i think its started to early now
[00:30] <kw1234> EriC^^: yep, looks like dirs + some files
[00:30] <dabblers-buffet> Hello, I am experiencing problems with Kdenlive on Ubuntu 16.04 with the MATE desktop.
[00:31] <dabblers-buffet> Can someone help me?
[00:31] <EriC^^> dabblers-buffet: what problems?
[00:31] <kw1234> EriC^^: Installing for x86_64-efi platform. \n Installation finished. No error reported.
[00:31] <dabblers-buffet> It is a problem with the window, ok, you know how with every application there's a minimize, maximize and close window option?
[00:31] <dabblers-buffet> Kdenlive does not have that.
[00:31] <kw1234> EriC^^: so, seems OK
[00:31] <dabblers-buffet> In fact, I have a screenshot of it too.
[00:31] <EriC^^> kw1234: ok, cool
[00:32] <EriC^^> kw1234: run update-grub then try efibootmgr -v
[00:32] <dabblers-buffet> EriC^^: http://imgur.com/a/NEzEy
[00:33] <yorwos> eric^^: i cant find any .out or .pcm extensions in photorec , but it has an option for "Own custom signatures" do you think this would work ?
[00:33] <dabblers-buffet> Look at the top of Kdenlive, it does not list the project's profile and you cannot minimize, close, or maximize the window.
[00:34] <EriC^^> dabblers-buffet: that's odd
[00:34] <dabblers-buffet> Yeah, it is.
[00:34] <EriC^^> as a workaround try alt followed by space quickly
[00:34] <kw1234> EriC^^: update-grub found bunch of images, efibootmgr: http://termbin.com/ffdr
[00:34] <EriC^^> yorwos: yes
[00:34] <dabblers-buffet> I tried the repo's default version of Kdenlive and the official one from the Kdenlive website.
[00:34] <EriC^^> yorwos: do you have another file that has the same headers as your file?
[00:34] <dabblers-buffet> They made no difference in fixing the issue regardless of changing versions.
[00:35] <EriC^^> kw1234: looks good
[00:35] <yorwos> i got another 2 files made by same application , dunno what headers are exactly .... !
[00:35] <EriC^^> kw1234: type exit then try rebooting
[00:35] <EriC^^> kw1234: make sure uefi mode is selected in the bios
[00:36] <dabblers-buffet> EriC^^: Ok, I just tried that, it says I can only Minimize. Options to maximize or close doesn't work, they are grayed out.
[00:36] <EriC^^> yorwos: headers are the start of the file, like let's say an mp3 file all start as "mp3.bla.bla.actual.song.here"
[00:37] <EriC^^> yorwos: first see if photorec can identify your file, try fidentify /path/to/other/file
[00:37] <kw1234> EriC^^: before it looked like http://termbin.com/ffdr
[00:37] <kw1234> oops
[00:37] <kw1234> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23560232/
[00:38] <lurklord> What is the 4.4.0-51.72 kernel based from? Linux 4.9?
[00:38] <kw1234> EriC^^: will try...
[00:38] <EriC^^> kw1234: aha
[00:39]  * kw1234 (fingers crossed) reboooooting.....
[00:40] <yorwos> if i run fidentify i get img.out: unknown
[00:40] <dabblers-buffet> EriC^^: I also have a terminal output too for this.
[00:40] <dabblers-buffet> Removing cache at "/home/dabblers-buffet/.cache/kdenlive-thumbs.kcache"
[00:40] <dabblers-buffet> QXcbConnection: XCB error: 8 (BadMatch), sequence: 582, resource id: 69206028, major code: 154 (Unknown), minor code: 11
[00:40] <dabblers-buffet> QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver
[00:40] <EriC^^> yorwos: ok, try hexdump -C /path/to/file | head
[00:41] <EriC^^> yorwos: try both files, and you should see the same header for both, hopefully
[00:42] <yorwos> command heads not found , did you mean head from coreutils
[00:42] <yorwos> oops
[00:43] <yorwos> ok for the video file i got   FRAM......
[00:43] <yorwos> i dont care for the audio file
[00:43] <EriC^^> for both files?
[00:43] <kw1234__> EriC^^: Success! Thank you very much!
[00:43] <EriC^^> kw1234__: great, no problem
[00:43]  * kw1234__ back in his Ubuntu.
[00:44] <kw1234__> EriC^^: Shall this be reported? What do you think?
[00:44] <chalbersma> CVE links for USN-3140-1 seem to be broken specifically (CVE-2016-9078 : http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-9078.html & CVE-2016-9079 : http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-9078.html )
[00:44] <EriC^^> yorwos: can you try making another file (don't let it use /tmp though) and see the headers for it?
[00:44] <yorwos> um i think so
[00:44] <EriC^^> kw1234__: i guess so
[00:45] <kw1234__> EriC^^: ok, will do. many thanks again.
[00:46] <EriC^^> yorwos: try sudo hexdump -C /dev/sdb5 | grep FRAM
[00:47] <dabblers-buffet> Eric, can you help out with this?
[00:47] <EriC^^> dabblers-buffet: not much, sorry
[00:47] <dabblers-buffet> I was wondering if you could figure out what's going on in the terminal output.
[00:47] <dabblers-buffet> Well, thanks for trying to help though.
[00:47] <yorwos> eric this brings me tons of files, i definetely havent created so many video files
[00:53] <EriC^^> yorwos: aha
[00:54] <EriC^^> i have recordmydesktop
[00:54] <EriC^^> let me meddle with it
[00:54] <yorwos> if its of any use the file im trying to recover is bigger than 700mb
[00:54] <EriC^^> seems to delete the /tmp file as soon as it's done right?
[00:55] <yorwos> yea
[00:55] <EriC^^> same header here FRAM......
[00:57] <EriC^^> yorwos: try sudo hexdump -C /dev/sdb5 | grep "46 52 41 4d 01 00 00 00"
[00:59] <yorwos> looking good only 3 results so far, still looking
[01:00] <hal-mb> today, I upgraded from 12 to 14. it seemed to work perfectly. All packages were up to date. Then I opted to upgrade from 14 to 16. It said that the upgrade failed and the system may not be stable. Now it won't boot into the desktop
[01:00] <hal-mb> could anyone help me to troubleshoot this? Or is it a lost cause?
[01:01] <EriC^^> yorwos: create a file called .photorec.sig in your home dir
[01:01] <hal-mb> lsb_release -a reports that it's at version 16.04.1
[01:02] <reisio> hal-mb: you get a console?
[01:02] <EriC^^> yorwos: add in it "rmdtmp 0 0x4652414d01000000"
[01:02] <yorwos> ok eric, did it
[01:02] <EriC^^> then try fidentify /path/to/file and see if it recognizes it
[01:03] <hal-mb> hi reisio - yes I can
[01:03] <Dr-008> how can i make a program start later on boot? dnsmasq is starting too early
[01:03] <reisio> hal-mb: what's 'pgrep -l X' say?
[01:03] <reisio> Dr-008: what Ubuntu version?
[01:04] <yorwos> ok i did that :)
[01:04] <Dr-008> reisio, the newest
[01:04] <yorwos> without the "
[01:04] <Dr-008> reisio, 16.04
[01:04] <hal-mb> reisio: it doesn't seem to recognise those args for pgrep
[01:05] <reisio> hal-mb: what makes you say that
[01:05] <reisio> hal-mb: no output means it just didn't find anything
[01:05] <hal-mb> invalid option
[01:05] <reisio> hal-mb: -l as in the lowercase letter 'L'
[01:05] <hal-mb> yes
[01:05] <reisio> hal-mb: this is GNU/Linux, not macOS?
[01:05] <EriC^^> yorwos: ok, cool
[01:05] <hal-mb> reisio: I'm on a different system at the mo
[01:05] <EriC^^> yorwos: try fidentify /path/to/file
[01:06] <reisio> hal-mb: okay, try 'ps aux | grep X' (ignore lines including 'grep'
[01:06] <hal-mb> reisio: lucky I have my mac! ;)  Although I have a like/hate relationship with it
[01:06] <yorwos> the file we just made ?
[01:06] <reisio> better than Windows, worse than GNU/Linux
[01:06] <EriC^^> yorwos: yup
[01:07] <hal-mb> reisio: X is not listed
[01:07] <hal-mb> are you hoping to see X11?
[01:07] <yorwos> /home/yorwos/.photorec.sig: unknown
[01:08] <EriC^^> yorwos: no, i mean on the img.out
[01:08] <jforman> hi all. i'm trying to debug why my NetworkManager-running dhclient is NOT writing the 'domain' entry to my /etc/resolv.conf. I've debugged with wireshark that my dhcp request IS getting the parameter, but not writing it. any ideas why?
[01:10] <hal-mb> reisio: ah, sorry, I see what you were doing with the original command. I thought "X" was an arg, so I typed -X. Very sorry about that
[01:10] <hal-mb> reisio: X is not running
[01:11] <yorwos> img.out: rmdtmp
[01:11] <hal-mb> which log file can I look at to determine what failed in the upgrade?
[01:11] <hal-mb> there are files in /var/log/dist-upgrade. Which one is likely to tell me?
[01:11] <EriC^^> yorwos: ok great
[01:11] <EriC^^> yorwos: run sudo photorec /dev/sdb5
[01:11] <EriC^^> then go to custom and deselect all, and choose the custom signature and run it
[01:11] <yorwos> ok
[01:14]  * kw1234__ reported bug 1646298
[01:21] <yorwos> i had 3/10 headers found, now its asking me to select block size ?
[01:22] <yorwos> the cursor is over 8192
[01:22] <hal-mb> reisio: are you still around?
[01:23] <yorwos> maybe i messed the options is photorec , ill just re-run it
[01:24] <reisio> hal-mb: ?
[01:24] <reisio> hal-mb: try sudo service lightdm start
[01:25] <reisio> for normal Ubuntu, anyway
[01:26] <hal-mb> the screen blinks about 10 times and then stops
[01:27] <hal-mb> it continues running as before
[01:27] <hal-mb> this does have a nvidia card that requires a driver, but it at least booted into X in 12.04 and 14.04
[01:28] <yorwos> EriC^^:  i think we got it im getting a file atm which is 4.2gb extension of .rmdtmp ,its searching for more
[01:28] <hal-mb> reisio: how do I find out what caused the upgrade errors?
[01:30] <EriC^^> yorwos: cool
[01:30] <reisio> hal-mb: IMO you should focus on fixing your install and not on determining what went wrong (they are separate issues)
[01:30] <reisio> hal-mb: you got no error messages?
[01:31] <yorwos> so i should just try to recordmydesktop --rescue file.rmdtmp yes ? (or a copy of it)
[01:31] <EriC^^> yorwos: yeah
[01:32] <yorwos> u rock man, thanx for being so helpful today
[01:32] <EriC^^> yorwos: no problem
[01:33] <hal-mb> reisio: it failed on installing mysql-server. When I run apt, it fails, reporting that version GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
[01:34] <johan__> hi
[01:41] <dwong> help me
[01:42] <squinty> !details
[01:47] <reisio> hal-mb: you don't need mysql for anything to do with the desktop, I'm mildly curious why you have it installed at all
[01:47] <reisio> hal-mb: libstdc++ stuff, on the other hand, is occasionally a general problem
[01:47] <reisio> hal-mb: try running 'sudo lightdm'
[01:47] <reisio> you should get an actual useful error
[01:48] <reisio> alternatively, you can rm /var/log/Xorg*.log and rerun sudo service lightdm start, then grep EE /var/log/Xorg*.log
[02:04] <hal-mb> reisio: I have mysql because it's a dev machine
[02:05] <reisio> sure
[02:05] <reisio> won't matter to the DM/X starting, though
[02:05] <hal-mb> wow, just running lightdm gets into the desktop
[02:07] <reisio> hal-mb: okay, so possibly lightdm is merely not in your autostart
[02:07] <reisio> probably if you just re-installed lightdm that would be remedied
[02:08] <laice> or  dpkg reconfigure
[02:08] <hal-mb> apt is broken at the mo
[02:09] <reisio> hal-mb: in what way?
[02:09] <laice> dependancies?
[02:10] <hal-mb> it gives the glibc error
[02:10] <hal-mb> so should I run  dpkg --configure -a ?
[02:11] <reisio> hal-mb: which error?
[02:12] <hal-mb> essentiall this   http://askubuntu.com/questions/777803/apt-relocation-error-version-glibcxx-3-4-21-not-defined-in-file-libstdc-so-6
[02:13] <hal-mb> but I've tried their solution, and it doesn't work. If I run dpkg-reconfigure -a, it won't overwrite any of my settings, will it?
[02:15] <laice> could you do a !pastebin of the error?
[02:23] <reisio> hal-mb: no dpkg/apt command should ever overwrite your customized settings (outside of /etc/), ever, AFAIK
[02:23] <reisio> anyway, if you're ever worried about that (and also even if you aren't), you should just make backups
[02:25] <hal-mb> laice reisio here are the errors when I try to resolve the glibc problems.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/d09fl8s4sspt85u/ubutnu-errors-01.txt?dl=0
[02:27] <reisio> hal-mb: you might try fixing this from a chroot from a live OS, instead
[02:28] <reisio> then you can use a known-working toolchain to fix the broken one
[02:28] <reisio> hal-mb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure
[02:31] <hal-mb> this is the lightdm errors   https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fv5v5650m9wqlp/lightdm-errors.txt?dl=0
[02:31] <reisio> you said lightdm worked
[02:32] <OerHeks>  package libstdc++6:amd64 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4 cannot be configured because libstdc++6:i386 is at a different version (6.2.0-3ubuntu11~12.04)
[02:33] <hal-mb> only when I run it as root
[02:33] <hal-mb> service lightdm start does not work
[02:34] <reisio> hal-mb: that's normal
[02:34] <hal-mb> OerHeks: it won't let me remove that old version
[02:34] <reisio> hal-mb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure
[02:36] <OerHeks> ỳou must have done some nasty tricks to get it installed anyway, chroot should work, if you know how to fix this
[02:37] <hal-mb> OerHeks: I'm not sure what nasty tricks you mean. I just run the upgrade. Upgrade from 12 to 14 worked fine. It failed at the end of 14 to 16
[02:37] <hal-mb> *ran
[02:37] <hal-mb> OerHeks: I don't know how to fix it, I'm afraid
[02:38] <reisio> hal-mb: you'll be better served by focusing on solutions than causes of problems
[02:38] <reisio> hal-mb: follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure then repeat your dpkg steps
[02:39] <Dr-008> damn.. i'm trying to start  isc-dhcp-server via a shell script. but i cant weirdly. any tips or tricks? it only works if i myself via CLI try to restart the service via /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server restart
[02:39] <hal-mb> reisio: I haven't run the dpkg --configure -a  or  dpkg --reconfigure -a yet. Shall I run one, or both?
[02:39] <hal-mb> reisio: also, sorry to ask, but when you say "toolchain", what are you referring to?
[02:40] <hal-mb> the one that compiles packages?
[02:40] <grekkos> I just plugged my linux box into an unmanaged switch and the network interface name seems to have changed... previously I had enp0s20, now that interface is completely gone. Can anyone help me get my internet working again on this computer? I'm seeing lots of new interfaces in `ifconfig -a` which all begin with `veth`
[02:40] <grekkos> I also have `virbr0` and `virbr0-nic`
[02:41] <SwedeMike> grekkos: those are related to virtualbox or similar virtual machine software.
[02:41] <grekkos> ah okay so in that case v stands for virtual I'm guessing
[02:41] <grekkos> it's probably from docker
[02:42] <grekkos> I just never noticed
[02:42] <reisio> hal-mb: the packages required for making packages work, yes
[02:42] <grekkos> SwedeMike: so would it definitely be something that begins with 'e'? I don't understand how the new naming convention works
[02:43] <SwedeMike> grekkos: typicaly it's "eth0".
[02:44] <grekkos> SwedeMike: eth0 is what I'm used to seeing, prior to adding this new network switch it was called enp0s20
[02:45] <yorwos>  /msg NickServ identify malakies22
[02:45] <PickledEggs> whoops
[02:45] <yorwos> phew its ok i typed it wrongly
[02:45] <yorwos> heh
[02:46] <hal-mb> reisio: so that includes apt?
[02:46] <OerHeks> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[02:46] <backbox> salve fdp
[02:47] <grekkos> thanks OerHeks
[02:47] <reisio> hal-mb: for the purposes of this discussion, yes
[02:48] <reisio> hal-mb: if you're just trying to brush up on your Unix jargon, frequently the toolchain means only the software that's used to _build_ other software
[02:49] <grekkos> OerHeks: any idea how to figure out what the name will be though?
[02:49] <OerHeks> grekkos, i have no clue why it changed, must be the unmanaged switch i guess
[02:49] <reisio> grekkos: I'd be surprised if the writeup doesn't say, but you can ls -Al /sys/class/net/
[02:50] <reisio> anyway, if you go back to the old way (net.ifnames=0), you won't have to guess
[02:51] <grekkos> reisio: it's only listing virtual devices there, the real one should be in that list right?
[02:51] <hal-mb> reisio: as you can tell, I'm a bit rusty on it. That's what I thought, but didn't realise you could use the term more loosely.  Thanks for the clarification
[02:51] <grekkos> reisio: if I grep -v virt I get nothing
[02:51] <reisio> grekkos: sorry I missed the beginning of your issue, I think; what's up?
[02:51] <yorwos> EriC^^: do you think we can use photorec to obtain the specs.txt from the folder rMD-session-***** or another way to identify which of the undeleted txt files originally belonged to the temporary folder of recordmydesktop ? im getting segmentation error when i recordmydesktop --rescue
[02:51] <reisio> hal-mb: eh, language, fluidity, blah blah :p
[02:51] <yorwos> but im trying random other txt files , dont know what the PeriodSize must be
[02:51] <grekkos> reisio: I added a new unmanaged switch to my home network and I plugged my linux box into that, and suddenly my internet connection dropped.
[02:52] <reisio> if you wanted to communicate in a way that never invited a question in response, you'd be typing all day long
[02:52] <grekkos> reisio: I don't even see the interface name anymore (previously named enp0s20
[02:52] <reisio> grekkos: what's in /sys/class/net ?
[02:53] <glitchd> got some weird stuff going on here..
[02:53] <grekkos> reisio: i get a bunch of virtual devices listed, things I've never seen before devices that begin with "veth" or "vbr" and of course "lo"
[02:53] <glitchd> killed x with crtl alt backspace by accident, now desktop wont show correctly and system just isnt working right...any way to fix this?
[02:53] <hal-mb> reisio: I'm not criticising :)
[02:53] <reisio> grekkos: nothing starting with 'e'?
[02:53] <reisio> hal-mb: nor I :)
[02:54] <reisio> which is not to say I don't criticize
[02:54] <reisio> :)
[02:54] <hal-mb> hehe
[02:54] <grekkos> reisio: nope, that's what I was expecting to see though.
[02:54] <reisio> which _is_ to say that I do not not find criticism necessarily non-meritorious
[02:55] <reisio> grekkos: well, I'm sure there's a better solution, but you could try rebooting
[02:55] <grekkos> reisio: I get 7 virtual devices
[02:55] <grekkos> reisio: yeah I just tried that twice... actually from that I think i figured out that the `veth` interfaces were probably docker containers
[02:55] <grekkos> that I forgot i had running
[02:55] <reisio> grekkos: and you could try rebooting and prepending ' net.ifnames=0' to the kernel line in your grub.cfg
[02:55] <reisio> mmm, docker, can't help you there
[02:56] <reisio> there's no doubt a docker-specific channel, though
[02:56] <grekkos> well I'm just trying to get network connection to the host machine now
[02:56] <grekkos> it was working yesterday
[02:57] <reisio> apply time machine, problem solved
[02:57] <reisio> any virtual guests might be relying on the assumption that the device name during installation remains, that's one problem
[02:58] <reisio> as for the host, it should show up in /sys/class/net; but setting net.ifnames=0 is definitely worthwhile if you have only one network device
[02:58] <grekkos> reisio: where do I set that exactly
[03:00] <reisio> grekkos: know how to get to the GRUB screen during bootup?
[03:00] <grekkos> reisio: I have the GRUB screen there by default, yeah. I forget how to edit the options on it. Is it just a kernel option (I think that's what they're called)
[03:01] <reisio> grekkos: it'll say how to edit it at the bottom of the screen, just press any key (arrow keys are good) to ensure the timeout is nullified when you see the screen
[03:01] <reisio> grekkos: find the default entry (first if unspecified / 0 = first if otherwise)
[03:01] <reisio> grekkos: find its line that starts with 'linux', and add ' net.ifnames=0' to the end of that line, then boot
[03:01] <reisio> if it works, you can add it permanently
[03:02] <grekkos> reisio: alright, assuming this works, how do I make that permanent? there's a grub config somewhere I can edit once I'm booted in right?
[03:03] <grekkos> yeah, nothing
[03:03] <reisio> didn't work?
[03:04] <antisuit> hi
[03:04] <reisio> hi
[03:04] <grekkos> reisio: didn't work
[03:04] <antisuit> awe sweet i got this working
[03:04] <reisio> grekkos: k
[03:04] <reisio> antisuit: gj
[03:04] <reisio> grekkos: you didn't move the machine or its network cables at all?
[03:04] <antisuit> hey u guys got my ip adress trying to use i2p to mask it
[03:05] <reisio> antisuit: foo...shawcable.net
[03:05] <antisuit> dam it
[03:05] <e> you can tor if you don't want to show your ip
[03:05] <OerHeks> !cloak
[03:06] <e> (cloaks do not hide hide your ip)
[03:06] <antisuit> cool cool thanks man
[03:06] <reisio> they do as far as a lot of people are concerned, just not 100% of the time
[03:06] <grekkos> reisio: I mean not from the time it stopped working. I did however move them since it stopped working to try and fix it. I tried plugging it directly into the router now and I'm having same issue of no network interface
[03:06] <OerHeks> e indeed, but for most people it works fine
[03:07] <reisio> grekkos: is it something separate from the mobo? You might just make sure it's re/seated properly
[03:07] <reisio> and since network cable connectors tend to be cheap crap, you might just make sure even if it _is_ on the mobo
[03:07] <reisio> also: check the other (router) end
[03:08] <reisio> although obviously that end wouldn't explain the device not even showing up :)
[03:08] <grekkos> reisio: I'm pretty sure this is onboard ethernet... I tried reseating both sides already multiple times
[03:08] <grekkos> yeah
[03:08] <grekkos> it's onboard
[03:09] <tom__> hi?
[03:09] <reisio> hiyo
[03:10] <tom__> um
[03:10] <reisio> grekkos: you didn't upgrade the kernel or anything?
[03:10] <tom__> never used irc
[03:10] <reisio> tom__: lies, I just saw you use it thrice
[03:10] <grekkos> reisio: if it's built into the mobo it wouldn't appear in in lspci would it?
[03:10] <tom__> true
[03:10] <tom__> but
[03:10] <reisio> grekkos: no I think it would
[03:10] <grekkos> reisio: I haven't explicitly done the update, unless it was automated and I didn't notice
[03:10] <tom__> this is my first time using it
[03:10] <grekkos> reisio: I'm running ubuntu server I don't know if that makes a difference
[03:10] <reisio> grekkos: hrmmm
[03:11] <reisio> grekkos: as far as updates? Yeah I don't know that myself
[03:11] <reisio> I would guess the server edition is less aggressive about updates, though, not more
[03:12] <reisio> grekkos: this approach is worth trying: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1548254
[03:14] <grekkos> reisio: removing the 70-persistent... file?
[03:15] <grekkos> I don't even have that file right now
[03:15] <grekkos> but I kept coming up with that too in searching
[03:15] <grekkos> reisio: my /etc/udev/rules.d is empty
[03:17] <reisio> oh? Maybe systemd "fixed" that then :/ :p
[03:18] <grekkos> :|
[03:18] <grekkos> restarting
[03:24] <Sachiru> Query: Will the Ubuntu installer automatically update the EFI boot entries if Windows is already existing on the system and Ubuntu will be installed on a separate disk that will not be used or seen by Windows?
[03:24] <Sachiru> Or do I have to do this manually instead?
[03:26] <BarBQ> I am trying to ssh to my ubuntu machine but i get this error "Permission denied (publickey)." I can not even ssh to myself by doign ssh 127.0.0.1 from that box. I get the same error.
[03:28] <Ben64> BarBQ: then you're using the wrong key
[03:29] <BarBQ> Ben64 is there an easy fix?
[03:29] <BarBQ> its a lab machine
[03:29] <BarBQ> i haven't generated a key
[03:30] <Ben64> you might have password logins disabled
[03:31] <Dr-008> how can i remove a service from boot/startup? i used `update-rc.d dnsmasq disable` only i believe this actually sets a marker for the service to be disabled. because when i service dnsmasq start (or restart) it says alot and "service is disable"
[03:35] <Dr-008> update-rc.d -f <service> remove ?
[03:37] <OerHeks> Dr-008, if you have systemD ( 15.04 and up) sudo systemctl disable <application>.service
[03:38] <OerHeks> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units
[03:38] <Dr-008> ah yeah, that works
[03:44] <Dr-008> thanks
[03:44] <OerHeks> have fun
[03:46] <glitchd> reisio, welp, i fixed it by reinstalling xubuntu-desktop
[03:46] <glitchd> reisio, not really the fix i was looking for, but itll work.
[03:46] <reisio> glitchd: gj
[03:46] <reisio> glitchd: that was the X not starting thing?
[03:47] <glitchd> reisio, nah, my x was starting, just everything was acting all phuewy
[03:47] <reisio> oh okay
[03:47] <reisio> nothing learned there, but problem solved so gj :)
[03:47] <glitchd> reisio, ill pay more attention to which keyboard im mashing on next time lol
[03:47] <andyman1> Hi, when I go to do an apt-get install, etc. i'm seeing the following: "Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0" There are otherwise no other errors. Is this a problem or should I ignore it
[03:48] <reisio> glitchd: oh yeah :)
[03:49] <BarBQ> Ben64 you got time to help me?
[03:54] <DocPlatypus> how would I modify /etc/init.d/gdm3 to start gdm under gdb? I need that to get a backtrace to troubleshoot an issue
[03:55] <TAFB> how do I tell if my ubuntu 16.04 vps has a firewall?
[03:55] <Ben64> TAFB: sudo iptables -L -n
[03:56] <TAFB> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/R4LpWKMV
[03:56] <Ben64> you have a firewall (with no rules)
[03:57] <TAFB> would that cause openvpn not to work?
[03:57] <Ben64> no
[03:57] <TAFB> bummer :(
[03:57] <TAFB> openvpn connects, I get IP address, but I lose all internet connectivity except I can ping the vps
[03:57] <DocPlatypus> ok... for the moment let's not worry about starting gdm under gdb. I just want to get gdm working, and I get the following error message in syslog: GLib: g_hash_table_find: assertion 'version == hash_table->version' failed
[03:57] <TAFB> (windows)
[03:58] <DocPlatypus> does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:58] <TAFB> i'll ask in openvpn channel, see if they can help, thanks though Ben64!
[04:02] <p_d> Anyone know How to resolve this- http://pastebin.com/irmuc2xu .."Skipped because failed Dependencies" error?
[04:04] <DocPlatypus> okay, let me ask this: is anyone here able to run gdm on 16.04?
[04:09] <reisio> DocPlatypus: I'm going to go ahead and guess the answer is absolutely yes
[04:09] <OerHeks> with 16.04, don't mess with init, use systemctl > http://askubuntu.com/a/713842
[04:16] <DocPlatypus> reisio: next question would be "how?"
[04:16] <DocPlatypus> I had zero issues running gdm on 14.04. with 16.04 I have been forced to use lightdm, sddm, or lxdm
[04:19] <reisio> DocPlatypus: pastebin the errors you get when trying to run gdm
[04:19] <hal-mb> reisio: are you still around?  I downloaded and burned the live cd (it's taken all this time). I'm following the "Update Failure" instructions you sent, at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure
[04:19] <TAFB> Ben64: The peeps in openvpn say it's a "connection masquerading" issue with my ubuntu vps, can you help me fix it?
[04:19] <reisio> DocPlatypus: aside: why do you want GDM instead? Are you using GNOME?
[04:19] <reisio> hal-mb: for a bit
[04:19] <DocPlatypus> reisio: it's one line: GLib: g_hash_table_find: assertion 'version == hash_table->version' failed
[04:19] <DocPlatypus> and yes I'm using GNOME
[04:19] <hal-mb> step 3 is  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt.  What is supposed to be on sda1?  How can this command work for everyone?
[04:20] <DocPlatypus> hal-mb: /dev/sda1 is the first partition of the first SCSI disk and most modern motherboards have either SCSI or SATA, and the latter is handled by the SCSI drivers
[04:20] <hal-mb> and how do I know if it's mounted correctly to the right partition, and that running apt upgrade won't ruin my system?
[04:21] <DocPlatypus> if you are on really old hardware you might have to use /dev/hda1 instead
[04:21] <hal-mb> sda1 is boot on my system. Does that matter?
[04:21] <reisio> DocPlatypus: that line is from where?
[04:21] <hal-mb> my disk is partitioned
[04:21] <glitchd> hal-mb, lsblk will tell you your patitions
[04:21] <DocPlatypus> reisio: from syslog. screen doesn't change from the contents of the text mode console
[04:22] <hal-mb> glitchd: nice tool. Not used that before
[04:22] <reisio> syslog, can't say I've yet found a use for that
[04:22] <glitchd> hal-mb, yep and it doesnt require a password to use
[04:22] <reisio> DocPlatypus: is gdm running? ps aux | grep -i gdm
[04:22] <hal-mb> reisio: so, it just needs to be the first partition, regardless of what is on that partition?
[04:23] <reisio> hal-mb: whatever partition your / (root) is on
[04:23] <reisio> hal-mb: that is typically the first partition, in non-dual-boot scenarios
[04:23] <reisio> hal-mb: which is also typically the largest
[04:23] <reisio> cfdisk /dev/sda might be more informative (just Quit out once you get the information)
[04:23] <glitchd> maybe he should paste his lsblk just to be sure..
[04:23] <DocPlatypus> reisio: yes it stays running until I kill it
[04:23] <DocPlatypus> brb
[04:24] <hal-mb> ok, my root partition is on sda6
[04:24] <glitchd> no
[04:25] <glitchd> i believe it would be sda, unless im mistaken..
[04:25]  * reisio sighs @ docplatypus
[04:25] <reisio> hal-mb: if you say so, that's the one to mount & chroot
[04:25] <glitchd> if your installing grub, it would be just the partition, with no number
[04:26] <hal-mb> how do I tell if chroot is working correctly?
[04:26] <reisio> if you == hal-md: he's chrooting for a system rescue
[04:26] <glitchd> *it would be the drive with no partition nunber
[04:26] <reisio> hal-mb: ls /home/ will show your user/s dirs
[04:26] <reisio> hal-mb: unless /home is a separate partition :p
[04:27] <reisio> hal-mb: if you switch to another TTY or xterm and ls /, the ls / output will differ significantly between chroot & non-chroot
[04:27] <Pinkamena_D> I have used ubuntu on my HTPC for a few years, all is usually well but with a few videos there is some low framerate issues. I just switched out the TV so I can no longer use the S-video out from the old vidoe card and I need to buy a new card with HDMI. Any recommendations of a good card for linux which would be able to make use of hardware acceleration?
[04:27] <reisio> unless of course you chrooted to your ordinary /, which is unlikely :D
[04:30] <hal-mb> yes, /home is a separate partition :)
[04:30] <darkash> you can have the home on the root or its own partition
[04:31] <reisio> hal-mb: anyway, 'ls /' output will differ significantly from a correctly executed chroot to your hard disk's root FS and from a default new xterm or console/tty
[04:32] <reisio> primarily: from the chroot, it will appear normal, and from elsewhere it will appear like crazy live OS nonsense
[04:32] <reisio> but really, as long as the 'chroot' command didn't give you an error, then it worked
[04:33] <hal-mb> reisio: yes, I believe it did. Thank you.  I need to add a nameserver to resolv.conf, but the filesystem seems to be readonly
[04:34] <reisio> you can always export PS1="(chroot)\n$PS1" to remind yourself
[04:34] <reisio> hal-mb: what command did you mount it with?
[04:34] <hal-mb> ah, I had to edit the live cd resolv.conf
[04:35] <hal-mb> I did it using the other console. Is that the correct way?
[04:35] <reisio> using another console is fine
[04:35] <hal-mb> is there a way to do it from within chroot?
[04:35] <reisio> usually you cp resolv.conf to the guest OS, though
[04:35] <reisio> not easily, no, that is somewhat the point of the chroot
[04:36] <hal-mb> the guest OS is my main system, is it?  Then copying the resolv.conf to the guest would overwrite my original file, wouldn't it?
[04:37] <reisio> yes, but it's not a file the contents of matter particularly
[04:37] <reisio> you can always back it up if you like, though
[04:37] <reisio> cp -n /mnt/point/etc/resolv.conf /mnt/point/etc/resolv.conf.bu
[04:37] <DocPlatypus> reisio: confirmed, gdm is still running, but I never get a login screen
[04:37] <reisio> DocPlatypus: kill it
[04:37] <DocPlatypus> done
[04:38] <reisio> DocPlatypus: rm /var/log/Xorg*.log; sudo service gdm start (no errors? ->); grep EE /var/log/Xorg*.log
[04:38] <hal-mb> thanks reisio
[04:38] <GALL0> anyone know what `nofail,discard` means/does in /etc/fstab?
[04:38] <reisio> GALL0: man fstab will say, probs
[04:38] <reisio> discard is for SSD stuff
[04:38] <hal-mb> reisio: now, I am trying to run  apt update, but it gives lots of readonly errors. What am I really supposed to be doing here?
[04:39] <reisio> GALL0: it's either harmlessly redundant, in that case, or usefully non-redundant
[04:39] <DocPlatypus> ok brb
[04:39] <reisio> nofail is just what you think it'd be, really :)
[04:39] <reisio> well, that is, it doesn't actually magically make things not fail, but it does: not report the failure
[04:39] <GALL0> hmmm for some reason sickrage cant write to the RAID 0 volume I created
[04:39] <reisio> hal-mb: what command did you mount it with?
[04:40] <GALL0> i can mkdir, and GUI mkdir
[04:40] <hal-mb> reisio: the ones listed in the document
[04:40] <GALL0> although its not mounted in the normal /media/md0 mountpoint
[04:40] <reisio> hal-mb: probably you mounted the wrong partition, then
[04:40] <GALL0> I have it at ~/data
[04:40] <reisio> hal-mb: what made you think sda6 was your root?
[04:41] <reisio> hal-mb: how many /dev/sd?'s does 'sudo lsblk -f' show?
[04:41] <hal-mb> reisio: I'm pretty certain it is
[04:42] <hal-mb> 5
[04:43] <reisio> hal-mb: sda, sdb, ... to sde?
[04:43] <hal-mb> sda1 = /boot, sda2 = not sure what this is. It's only 1K, and I don't think I created it, sda5 = extended, sda6 = /, sda7 = home
[04:44] <hal-mb> oh
[04:44] <reisio> hal-mb: no, how many sda?'s, not how many sda?#'s
[04:44] <hal-mb> 2 - sdb is my backup disk
[04:45] <hal-mb> /dev/sda6 is mounted readonly
[04:45] <reisio> so two? sda & sdb?
[04:45] <hal-mb> yes
[04:47] <reisio> hal-mb: okay how big is the drive your root FS is on?
[04:47] <hal-mb> 46G
[04:47] <hal-mb> with 19G available
[04:48] <reisio> hal-mb: how big is your backup drive?
[04:48] <iamrohit7> how t/parto
[04:48] <hal-mb> sorry, the hard disks?  They are both the same - 1TB
[04:48] <reisio> oh, they're identical?
[04:49] <hal-mb> yes
[04:49] <masber> hi
[04:49] <hal-mb> but not partitioned the same. The main disk has multiple partitions, as explained above, and the backup is one large partition
[04:49] <masber> I just realised that my ubuntu servers have changed the key
[04:50] <reisio> hal-mb: run this: for i in {a..b}; do echo 'sd'"$i"': '$(($(lsblk -bdno SIZE /dev/sd"$i")/1024/1024/1024))GB; done
[04:50] <masber> I also saw that python-cryptography has been updated by the unantended-updates
[04:50] <masber> did that update changed the host key?
[04:50] <masber> anybody knows about this?
[04:50] <hal-mb> reisio: what does it do?
[04:50] <reisio> masber: if you don't keep backups, you can't ever know :p
[04:50] <masber> I have ubuntu 16.04
[04:50] <reisio> hal-mb: prints drive capacities
[04:51] <hal-mb> I know the capacities
[04:51] <reisio> hal-mb: see where it says 'echo'? That's what it does, it runs 'echo' and 'lsblk' (and does some division via bash)
[04:51] <reisio> hal-mb: I don't
[04:51] <masber> reisio, there should be a notice form canonical about this?
[04:51] <masber> look --> https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3138-1/
[04:51] <reisio> masber: about things that don't make sense to you that actually happened? One would hope so
[04:51] <DocPlatypus> reisio: gdm puts the X server logs in /var/log/gdm3, I just found out. and I get (EE) modeset(0): drmSetMaster failed: Permission denied
[04:52] <DocPlatypus> and a bunch of other related b.s.
[04:52] <reisio> DocPlatypus: boy is that dumb, typical GNOME :p
[04:52] <hal-mb> so that I know where we are headed with this, what are you trying to achieve?  What do you suspect has gone wrong?
[04:52] <reisio> DocPlatypus: try sudo grep, then
[04:52]  * reisio sighs
[04:52] <hal-mb> sorry
[04:52] <DocPlatypus> no that permission denied bit is in the log
[04:52] <reisio> I want programmatic evidence that what you've said is true
[04:52] <DocPlatypus> that's the error it logs
[04:52] <reisio> so that we don't waste time
[04:53] <reisio> DocPlatypus: oh hah, okay
[04:53] <reisio> DocPlatypus: and I've forgotten the original problem... other DMs work but not gdm?
[04:53] <DocPlatypus> reisio: correct
[04:54] <hal-mb> reisio: but what do you suspect has gone wrong?
[04:54] <DocPlatypus> afk making a fresh pot of tea
[04:54] <reisio> hal-mb: ATM I suspect an assumption has been made that might not be true
[04:54] <reisio> DocPlatypus: but what type of tea
[04:55] <reisio> DocPlatypus: this looks like a systemd bug; what's the systemd version?
[04:55] <reisio> (as if any bugs _aren't_ systemd bugs? :p)
[04:57] <hal-mb> reisio: you suspect that I'm mounting the wrong partition or disk?
[04:58] <reisio> yup
[04:58] <reisio> potentially
[04:58] <reisio> it would explain why what you mounted is read only
[05:00] <DocPlatypus> reisio: systemd 229 +PAM +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +APPARMOR +SMACK +SYSVINIT +UTMP +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +GNUTLS +ACL +XZ -LZ4 +SECCOMP +BLKID +ELFUTILS +KMOD -IDN
[05:00] <DocPlatypus> (edited out the line break after 229)
[05:02] <hal-mb> reisio: the code is not running. It says /dev/sd is not a block device
[05:02] <DocPlatypus> and for the terminally curious it's Lipton Iced Tea, UPC 0-41000-05014-5 (24 ct box)
[05:02] <hal-mb> and also a syntax error": operand expected (token error is "1024/1024/1024")
[05:03] <hal-mb> btw, I've run this from inside chroot. I hope that's correct
[05:13] <hal-mb> reisio: I managed to get the code to work. Both disks are listed (sda and sdb), and they are both 931GB
[05:18] <jarnos> Why does apt-get update give these errors? What to do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23561766/
[05:20] <DocPlatypus> jarnos: looks like something is not right on that server.. maybe try replacing ftp.lysator.liu.se with se.mirror.ubuntu.com
[05:21] <DocPlatypus> jarnos: and re-run apt-get update
[05:21] <jarnos> If I use older selection mirror.beget.ru as server, there is no such errors/warnings.
[05:22] <DocPlatypus> where are you getting these from?
[05:22] <jarnos> DocPlatypus, I am in Finland actually, but I used "Select Best Server".
[05:22] <DocPlatypus> jarnos: okay, fi.archive.ubuntu.com then
[05:22] <DocPlatypus> I mistyped mirror instead of archive earlier
[05:23] <reisio> hal-mb: how tedious
[05:23] <reisio> hal-mb: what FS does sudo lsblk -f say sda6 is?
[05:24] <jarnos> DocPlatypus, I wonder why "Software & Updates" does not give such an option.
[05:25] <miracle> hello
[05:25] <DocPlatypus> jarnos: not sure
[05:26] <reisio> 'lo
[05:26] <hal-mb> reisio: I rebooted the system with the live CD, but it booted into the main system by mistake. It started the desktop!
[05:26] <reisio> hal-mb: aha
[05:26] <reisio> :)
[05:26] <hal-mb> reisio: I have no idea why. I didn't do anything
[05:27] <hal-mb> reisio: but there are still major issues with package dependencies for gcc, libstdc++6 and libkolabxml1 :(
[05:28] <jarnos> DocPlatypus, now I got no errors with  ubuntu.trumpetti.atm.tut.fi though I had before.
[05:28] <hal-mb> apt seems to be working too though
[05:28] <reisio> right, now you should be able to fix them
[05:28] <reisio> if you're in the live OS chroot, that is
[05:28] <hal-mb> really? How? :)
[05:28] <DocPlatypus> jarnos: ok. seems really odd it would redirect you to a Russian or Swedish server when you're in Finland though
[05:28] <andyman1> Why am I seeing "Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0" when I run apt-get and is it an issue?
[05:29] <hal-mb> no, I'm in the main system. Shall I go back into the live CD now?
[05:29] <jarnos> DocPlatypus, I agree.
[05:29] <reisio> hal-mb: if you're still having the same problem... yes
[05:30] <hal-mb> reisio: I'm having the issue with package dependencies, but the other two issues (with apt not working and running lightdm automatically) seem to be solved
[05:30] <hal-mb> so I need to reboot to resolve the package dependencies, reisio ?
[05:31] <reisio> if it's the libstdc++ thing, yes, I think that will help you
[05:31] <hal-mb> ok
[05:31] <jarnos> DocPlatypus, the test seems to give various results. Sometimes it offers me a Dannish server. Maybe they are faster servers with less load.
[05:31] <tiz_> Hi. I've got a computer in recovery mode that's stuck after trying to upgrade apport. "Setting up apport (2.20.1-0ubuntu2.2)", then "invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel", and it hangs there.
[05:32] <RxMcDonald> hello, anyone knows how to increase my personal computer (PC) computing power? I need more computations but ubuntu doesn't want me to be able to increase them without additional computers coding
[05:32] <reisio> RxMcDonald: :p
[05:33] <[TiZ]> I'm going to resend my last message in case it failed due to being on the wrong unregistered nick.
[05:33] <[TiZ]> Hi. I've got a computer in recovery mode that's stuck after trying to upgrade apport. "Setting up apport (2.20.1-0ubuntu2.2)", then "invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel", and it hangs there.
[05:34] <RxMcDonald> reisio: are you knowledgeable with computers? because I need a computers engineer to help me fix broken ubuntu code
[05:34] <hal-mb> reisio: so do we agree on my disk configuration?  Am I still going to mount sda6?  And what are the reasons it could mount readonly before, and why did me mounting a fs that I didn't expect cause it to mount readonly?
[05:35] <hal-mb> *why would
[05:35] <RxMcDonald> every time I try to use my computer ubuntu doesn't let me because of computer issues
[05:35] <guest_> qq
[05:36] <RxMcDonald> there should be a way to repair an ubuntu computer without the need to buy additional computers
[05:36] <andyman1> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[05:37] <RxMcDonald> ubuntu doesn't let me make more computing so i cannot fix the computer
[05:37] <andyman1> try turning it off and on again
[05:38] <RxMcDonald> but the computer works its just that ubuntu is trying to brake my computer
[05:39] <RxMcDonald> also i need to make more computing and the computer is not good enough because of ubuntu
[05:39] <[TiZ]> Is this, like... a bot or something?
[05:39] <reisio> RxMcDonald: classic
[05:39] <andyman1> Ken M is loose in IRC
[05:40] <reisio> hal-mb: what FS is sda6? Did you ever answer?
[05:41] <hal-mb> reisio: ext4
[05:42] <hal-mb> so I tried to boot into the live cd, and this time it went to a black/blank screen, and didn't show the desktop.  :/   trying again now
[05:42] <RxMcDonald> i just tried to use my ubuntu computer and it wouldnt want to make computing
[05:42] <reisio> hal-mb: mmm, 'sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/point' should mount it read-write by default
[05:43] <reisio> hal-mb: you can try sudo mount -o remount,rw /mnt/point afterwards
[05:44] <RxMcDonald> i need to use the computer for computing but it's not good because ubuntu cant compute
[05:45] <RxMcDonald> my network technician engineer in computers says that ubuntu will brake the computer if you try to compute
[05:45] <reisio> right
[05:45] <andyman1> Don't compute anymore. that'll solve it
[05:45] <reisio> ^
[05:45] <reisio> true even when not humoring goofs :p
[05:48] <[TiZ]> Okay so now I've got a weird thing. I'm trying to restore a backup onto a new computer. LightDM isn't starting. Whenever I try to start it, it freezes the framebuffer. Nothing is logged in any of the files under /var/log/lightdm. What should I do to diagnose this?
[05:48] <reisio> [TiZ]: is lightdm running? ps aux | grep -i lightdm
[05:48] <RxMcDonald> the only reason for this computer to work is because it doesnt have ubuntu inside of the computer logic gates
[05:49] <reisio> RxMcDonald: right
[05:49] <[TiZ]> reisio: Right now, it's not. I have disabled it through systemctl, and can start it manually. When I do though, the framebuffer freezes up and becomes completely inoperable.
[05:49] <reisio> [TiZ]: and you can't CTRL+ALT+F2, even?
[05:50] <[TiZ]> reisio: That is correct.
[05:50] <reisio> [TiZ]: and lightdm is on the new or old computer?
[05:51] <[TiZ]> reisio: Both? I've been backing up to a ssh server through rsync, and I restored that backup by going in the other direction.
[05:52] <RxMcDonald> my networks engineers team tells me that we need to fix the ubuntu computer otherwise we don't have enough computers for computing
[05:54] <RxMcDonald> i have a team of network computers engineers working 24/7 to increase ubuntu computing but it's not enough, now we need another team to create more computer code for ubuntu because most of the ubuntu code is not good for computers
[05:56] <hal-mb> reisio: both inside and outside of chroot, the partition seems to be mounted with rw access. Inspecting the resolv.conf file from within the chroot, it seems to be a symlink to ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[05:57] <hal-mb> oh no - reiso's gone :'(
[05:57] <RxMcDonald> ubuntu broke his computer
[05:57] <andyman1> lol
[05:58] <RxMcDonald> ubuntu is very dangerous for computers, it can brake your computer or reduce computer power
[05:58] <chu> RxMcDonald: Please stop.
[05:59] <RxMcDonald> chu: stop what? I'm on my computer
[06:00] <andyman1> so pkgProblemResolver, it looks like something flagged it to run every time apt-get runs. There weren't any obvious errors, everything works. Any idea how to disable that message?
[06:01] <andyman1> I learned I can add -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=false to the command and it will work for that one time. can't figure out how to turn it off completely
[06:01] <mkultra> I brake for ubuntu
[06:02] <RxMcDonald> mkultra: ubuntu keeps trying to break my computer, i don't know what to do anymore
[06:03] <andyman1> RxMcDonald: wait and try again tomorrow
[06:04] <RxMcDonald> maybe I should replace the ubuntu computer for another computer
[06:04] <andyman1> do that
[06:05] <RxMcDonald> im going to take out ubuntu from the computer then put another one more stronger computer inside
[06:05] <andyman1> put two in to be sure
[06:05] <hal-mb> I'm booted into live cd, and chroot, and it has access to the internet. How can I resolve these package dependency issues?
[06:09] <RxMcDonald> andyman1: yes I'm going to put more ubuntu
[06:09] <RxMcDonald> i take out one ubuntu then put two ubuntu at the same time
[06:11] <[TiZ]> Okay, so I discovered something unfortunate. That rsync backup I'm doing over ssh, it uses --fake-super so I don't have to be root to do the backup. So it turns out that the userids on the source laptop doing the backup don't match on the destination. For example, on the source computer, lightdm was 110, but on the the destination computer, it's 107. So now the ownerships are all jacked up, which is why I can't start lightdm. How can I fix th
[06:11] <[TiZ]> is?
[06:14] <andyman1> "chown 123 file" should change it to the uid 123,
[06:14] <andyman1> "find /whatever -uid 123" will find files owned by 123
[06:14] <andyman1> combine the two?
[06:15] <p_d> Say I want to download specific version of a Package how do I do this?
[06:15] <andyman1> "find . -uid 123 -exec chown 345 {} \;" first guess at how that looks
[06:17] <hal-mb> could someone help me with these package dependency issues, please?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/olxtncopm3u9g2e/packageissues-01.txt?dl=0
[06:18] <p_d> sudo apt-get install package=version
[06:23] <hal-mb> p_d: so in this case, specifically, what should I be installing?
[06:23] <hal-mb> and what version?
[06:23] <DisposableRazor> Would this be an acceptable place to ask for help on installing ubuntu on android using linux deploy?
[06:42] <Jordan_U> DisposableRazor: I would say that there is only a small chance we would support working with an already installed system in a chroot on android, and would definitely not support the installation process. Try ##linux or maybe #android.
[06:44] <danang> hello
[06:46] <DamagedDolphin> Hello, Upon bootup it goes to Grub Rescue because it cannot find a device. But if I hit F12 and select the first HDD, grub starts normally and I can boot Ubuntu. I tried reinstalling and updating grub, but no luck with that.
[06:46] <DamagedDolphin> How do I fix the issue with the missing device and not having to select the boot device
[07:08] <passerk> hi
[07:10] <passerk> anyone here?
[07:11] <EriC^^> !ask | passerk
[07:14] <qwluhbear> Hi! Anyone here with experience booting cloud images on VMWare?
[07:29] <crypticnetwork> What's up everyone
[07:35] <Andrewww> Hello! I'm want to setup an Ubuntu Server (12.04 i386) with apt-mirror and PXE for Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 i386 but I can't find any complete guide to doing this and I was just wondering if any of you guys have/know a guide to doing this! Thanks in advance
[07:38] <iparhan> hello
[07:39] <iparhan> How is here  ?
[07:39] <iparhan> i wanna Connect ubuntu to LED use VGA
[07:39] <iparhan> but some applications cant be appear in LED
[07:41] <iparhan> who can answer my question  thnkas
[07:42] <Sachiru> Perhaps you may want to reword your question? The way it is written makes it hard to understand what you want to do and what the problem is.
[07:43] <iparhan> hello
[07:43] <iparhan> How I can connect Ubuntu to LED
[07:43] <Sachiru> LED... what, exactly?
[07:43] <Sachiru> What kind of LED?
[07:44] <iparhan> display
[07:44] <Sachiru> Pretty much use any standard VGA cable?
[07:44] <Sachiru> Unless you mean an LED matrix display
[07:44] <iparhan> no LED
[07:44] <l9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23562095/ <-- is this disk done for and needs replacing ?
[07:45] <Sachiru> Then just use whatever cable your LED display's input needs
[07:45] <iparhan> i wanna connect my laptop to another display
[07:45] <Sachiru> And is supported by your motherboard
[07:45] <Sachiru> If you want to connect your laptop to another display, it's pretty much plug and play
[07:45] <iparhan> so i have VGA now
[07:45] <iparhan> but its not work
[07:46] <Sachiru> iparhan, This is the sort of thing that a simple google search will fix.
[07:46] <Sachiru> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/display-dual-monitors-desktop.html
[07:47] <iparhan> Sachiru
[07:47] <iparhan> Can i talk to you in another windos
[07:47] <Sachiru> What version of Ubuntu are you running, and what model of laptop is this?
[07:47] <iparhan> window?
[07:47] <Sachiru> No
[07:47] <Sachiru> Do it here.
[07:47] <Sachiru> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#noprivate
[07:48] <iparhan> Sachiru
[07:48] <iparhan> Can i talk to u in another window
[07:48] <iparhan> >?\
[07:49] <ducasse> !pm | iparhan
[07:50] <iparhan> ok  iwill
[07:50] <iparhan> laptop  Lenovo thinkpad E420
[07:50] <iparhan> ubuntu  : 16.04
[07:51] <iparhan> can u see my words ?
[07:51] <zzero1> I partially upgraded my xubuntu 15.10 to 16.04 and now I want to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10
[07:51] <zzero1> I have an issue http://sprunge.us/QKQT
[07:52] <Sachiru> iparhan, A simple google search reveals this blog
[07:52] <zzero1> any help is very much appreciated
[07:52] <Sachiru> http://zachstechnotes.blogspot.com/2012/01/tri-head-display-on-linux-thinkpad-w520.html
[07:52] <Sachiru> Fixes your situation
[07:52] <xangua> zzero1: what do you mean by partially upgrade?
[07:52] <Sachiru> Also, since this is a volunteer help channel and you are not paying us for support, please do not expect instant replies. We have lives too, you know.
[07:52] <zzero1> I mean the update procces stopen with an error in the middle
[07:53] <EriC^^> zzero1: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[07:53] <iparhan> thks
[07:53] <iparhan> i checked out it firs
[07:53] <zzero1> http://sprunge.us/bMSO
[07:54] <EriC^^> zzero1: looks good
[07:55] <zzero1> you mean the drive ?
[07:56] <zzero1> EriC^^ the initial error was caused from a mount of a fat /boot with improper permissions
[07:57] <zzero1> upgrade error I mean
[07:58] <zzero1> now I have to find a solution to this python thingie
[07:58] <zzero1> should I reinstall the do-release tool ?
[07:59] <iparhan> Sachiru
[07:59] <iparhan> Can u give me some Command of them
[07:59] <iparhan> its be easily more
[08:00] <Sachiru> The commands are in the article
[08:00] <Sachiru> Read it
[08:00] <EriC^^> zzero1: why not
[08:02] <EriC^^> zzero1: it says input/output error
[08:04] <zzero1> yeah I saw it too somewhere
[08:04] <zzero1> and it does nott seem nice
[08:04] <zzero1> probably an fsck is in order
[08:05] <zefs> can anybody recommend me a good software to see .avro files?
[08:06] <iparhan> Sachiru
[08:06] <iparhan> Can u give me some Command of them
[08:06] <Sachiru> The commands are in the article. Read it
[08:07] <Sachiru> Repeating the question will only give you the same answer.
[08:07] <zzero1> I am running an apt-get install -f and it seems that it is continuing the upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04
[08:08] <zzero1> nice
[08:08] <zzero1> lets see
[08:09] <jnewt>  so i've got a fresh install of ubuntu mate.  after i minimize firefox, it has already on two occasions failed to re-open saying something about if i want to open a new window i have to close the current one first (should have copied the message word for word for google, but didn't).  any ideas what this is about?
[08:13] <zzero1> I just reinstalled the distro upgrade package and now I rerun the do-release-upgrade again
[08:14] <zzero1> 'm reruning
[08:14] <Tim231> Hey guys, I managed to do something a tad stupid and need a bit of help
[08:15] <Tim231> I have mounted my ubuntu partition on a live cd and have chroot'd into my system to fix it
[08:16] <Tim231> I had to reconfigure lightdm
[08:16] <Tim231> Done that, now I need to unmount the hard drive
[08:16] <zzero1> http://sprunge.us/CBGi
[08:17] <Tim231> I ran these commands: http://pastebin.com/5aChB2mR
[08:18] <Tim231> And then ran: for i in /sys /proc /dev/pts /dev; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done
[08:19] <Tim231> and now running sudo umount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[08:19] <Tim231> does nothing. Any advice??
[08:19] <ikevin> hi
[08:20] <ikevin> how can i save and restore alsamixer settings on ubuntu 16.04? using alsactl store not working
[08:20] <zzero1> damn
[08:21] <zzero1> now I am screwed Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found
[08:21] <Tim231> Think I best come back when the states are awake lol
[08:22] <newke> does it make sense to install tlp on fresh kubuntu 16.04?
[08:24] <zzero1> is there any way to hardwire the version which I am running so that I can make it think that I need an upgrade ?
[08:27] <OerHeks> zzero1, ' make it think that I need an upgrade ?' ?????
[08:27] <zzero1> DerHeks yes
[08:27] <theblazehen> zzero1 Yeah, why do you want it to think that? What are you trying to do?
[08:28] <zzero1> I have a broken do-release-upgrade
[08:28] <OerHeks> zzero1, that makes no sense, 16.04 is 16.04 .. or do you want to go to 16.10?
[08:28] <theblazehen> just `apt upgrade`?
[08:29] <zzero1> Derhacks it was 15.10
[08:29] <zzero1> and now and I know what it is
[08:29] <OerHeks> zzero1, but you ran apt-get install -f and that seems to continue upgrading, didn't it?
[08:29]  * l9 stares into the void and hope for a disk replacement too fall out of it
[08:30] <zzero1> now I am running sudo apt full-upgrade
[08:30] <zzero1> and seems to install a  lot of stuff
[08:30] <Tim231> Hey guys, I managed to do something a tad stupid and need a bit of help, I have mounted my ubuntu partition on a live cd and have chroot'd into my system to fix it. now I need to unmount the hard drive
[08:31] <Tim231> I ran these commands: http://pastebin.com/5aChB2mR And then ran: for i in /sys /proc /dev/pts /dev; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done
[08:31] <Tim231> running sudo umount /dev/sda2 /mnt does nothing now. Please Help!
[08:31] <l9> Tim231: what about rebooting and removing the cd ?
[08:31] <zzero1> with the broken setups is there any way to know if my system has actually been upgraded to the newest version ?
[08:32] <Tim231> @l9 could that damage the filesystem?
[08:32] <OerHeks> zzero1, did you reboot after apt-get install -f ??
[08:32] <zzero1> now
[08:32] <Tim231> zzero1: What are you trying to update
[08:32] <zzero1> no
[08:32] <zzero1> sorry
[08:33] <l9> tim123 no dont think so if you issue a reboot it should gracefully reboot the system
[08:33] <zzero1> Tim231 I had a 15.10
[08:33] <Tim231> @l9 I hope so!
[08:33] <Tim231> @zzero31 are you a live usb?
[08:33] <zzero1> no
[08:33] <EriC^^> i think he's a human
[08:34] <OerHeks> zzero1, then do so. uname -a tells the kernel, cat /etc/issue the ubuntu version
[08:34] <l9> Tim231: I just issued a shutdown now on a mounted zpool
[08:34] <EriC^^> :p
[08:34] <Tim231> @zzero1 Do what OerHeks said lol
[08:34] <ikevin> better to use cat /etc/lsb-release to get the ubuntu version
[08:35] <Tim231> @l9 I'll try it mate, and if it doesnt work then I'll probably cry
[08:35] <zzero1> cat /etc/issue and lsb_release agree on a Ubuntu Zesty Zapus (development branch) \n \l
[08:35] <l9> EriC^^: pretty sure you are right about that, unless it is one of those new AI that is running around :p
[08:35] <zzero1> I have a 4.4.0-51-generic
[08:35] <zzero1> running now
[08:35] <OerHeks> zzero1, uh oh, you upgraded with the -d option = development
[08:35] <EriC^^> :D
[08:36] <zzero1> yes
[08:36] <OerHeks> oh, without reboot, great
[08:36] <zzero1> is that a ggod thing ?
[08:36] <l9> EriC^^: could a reboot with a mounted drive inside a rescue shell damage the data?
[08:37] <zzero1> or do I sense an ironic statement ?
[08:37] <EriC^^> l9: nope, it'll unmount before rebooting
[08:37] <OerHeks> zzero1, sure, if you want to help testing an alfa release
[08:37] <l9> EriC^^: my thoughts too :P
[08:37] <zzero1> Derhacks I have no problem the testig release
[08:37] <zzero1> the next goal is to upgrade the new lts
[08:38] <zzero1> so that I wont have to worry
[08:39] <OerHeks> 17.04  to next lts = 17.04 > 17.10 > 18.04 LTS
[08:39] <zzero1> ok
[08:39] <zzero1> yes
[08:39] <l9> EriC^^: can you see why this disk is marked as unavalible ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23562095/
[08:39] <zzero1> I will follow that path
[08:39] <zzero1> the full-upgrade says 14 %
[08:40] <zzero1> so it has things to do
[08:40] <EriC^^> l9: unavailable how?
[08:40] <zzero1> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Νοέ  30 23:10 /vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-51-generic
[08:41] <l9> EriC^^: the zpool cant read the disk
[08:41] <EriC^^> l9: ah, no idea about zfs here
[08:42] <l9> shame on you ;) you meed too learn zfs :P haha
[08:42] <EriC^^> yeah, one of these days :D
[08:42] <l9> that is what i am saying about ipv6 haha
[08:42] <EriC^^> lol
[08:44] <l9> zfs is awsome when it comes too saving the data from disk failures, have had 2 two disk dying on me the last couple of months and not once lost data cause of it
[08:44] <EriC^^> l9: cool
[08:52]  * l9  = suspended while janitor != there;
[08:59] <himanshub16> join #nuntius
[09:03] <thekrynn> is it possible to use mhddfs with NFS exports?
[09:06] <user48> user48
[09:23] <redneck> nick linuxuser
[09:24] <redneck> list
[09:30] <Guest81607>  I've installed xubuntu instead of ubuntu gnome (because my machine is really worst) and at now I have the problem with my touchpad. In ubuntu gnome there is libinput. In the case of xubuntu is is synaptics. Yesterday I've installed libinput to my xubuntu and works great, but I need configuration file.
[09:30] <Guest81607> Hi!
[09:51] <RxMcDonald> hey guys what is better to have inside my computer, one ubuntu or two ubuntu?
[09:52] <TheMariuz> two allways beats one
[09:52] <OerHeks> RxMcDonald, you can only run one ubuntu at the time
[09:52] <OerHeks> LoLz
[09:52] <OerHeks> RxMcDonald, install ALL flavors ..
[09:52] <OerHeks> !flavors
[09:52] <funabashi> hey guys isnt possible to open .vsdx files in OpenOffice?
[09:53] <RxMcDonald> OerHeks: can I put the whole ubuntus inside the same computer?
[09:53] <OerHeks> funabashi, visio files? try dia
[09:53] <OerHeks> !info dia
[09:53] <obiwahn> i have done an upgrade from trusty to the new 16.04
[09:54] <obiwahn> now my libstc++ is broken and i can not even install stuff
[09:54] <obiwahn> why is ubuntu so broken
[09:54] <OerHeks> RxMcDonald, if your hdd is partitioned with GPT you can
[09:54] <obiwahn> this did not happen with debian sid for 8 years to me
[09:58] <obiwahn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/init-system-helpers/+bug/1572903
[09:59] <obiwahn> confirmed by why take some action
[09:59] <funabashi> hey guys isnt possible to open .vsdx files in OpenOffice?
[09:59] <funabashi> ups sorry
[09:59] <Mister> Mister 66
[10:00] <funabashi> OerHeks: oke
[10:01] <curly_brace> question, so setting up an ubuntu server doesn't have a sudo installed in it?
[10:02] <curly_brace> and you must need to install it?
[10:02] <Ben64> pretty sure it has sudo
[10:03] <curly_brace> hmmm, ok
[10:08] <tahjine> curva
[10:09] <tahjine> hello
[10:09] <tahjine> ????
[10:56] <mahendratech> hi can anyne guide me, how to enable object versioning on glusterfs Ex. a file can keep copy up to 4-5 modification. So we can recover accidentally deleted files
[11:03] <_bart> Hi people, I am running a Lenovo X1 Carbon and I was wondering if there is any way to get Firewire to work with Ubuntu, or if I'm simply missing hardware to do it?
[11:08] <syntax990> SUp
[11:08] <AndyS2> Hi. How do I get the "Text entry" settings window on xubuntu? I want to follow a tutorial on adding japanese input for Ubuntu 16.04, but I'm using xubuntu. I've already installed gnome-language-selector, but for the second part, I need this other window that I can't find.
[11:13] <piel> hi
[11:14] <piel> i have a problem with postgres 9.6. today run my ubuntu and..
[11:14] <piel> http://wklej.org/id/2976066/
[11:14] <lukkan99> hi its nice to be back hare
[11:15] <piel> new http://pastebin.com/tMtTxRxH
[11:17] <ikonia> where did 9.6 come from
[11:17] <ikonia> thats not the default version
[11:17] <piel> but every days is working this version
[11:17] <ikonia> that wasn't what I asked
[11:17] <piel> eh apt-get
[11:18] <ikonia> what repo
[11:19] <piel> deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/ xenial-pgdg main
[11:19] <ikonia> ok - so thats not ubuntu's packages
[11:19] <ikonia> you ned to ask postgres to support their packages/builds
[11:20] <piel> pff
[11:20] <piel> itd not the problem
[11:20] <ikonia> ?
[11:28] <piel> ikonia: ok i change version to 9.5. the same problem
[11:29] <arshad> hi fellas
[11:30] <feros> Hello, i am new linux  user and i got  ubuntu 14.04, i got problem with my wi-fi. I got evry some minutes disconnect.. i got an internal wireless adapter and an external. the disconnect problem seems to come with the external wireless adapter that i need to use because the low strengh signal of wifi in the dormitory.. i use internal wireless adapter only when i travel. the model of the external wireless adapter is EDUP model: EP-MS150
[11:35] <thekrynn> any reason why duplicating a file on an NFS store to the same directory its in triggers a read/write of that data over the network? I thought NFS was smarter than that
[11:35] <ikonia> piel: I don't believe so
[11:36] <piel> ikonia: what?
[11:36] <ikonia> piel: I don't believe you've changed the version and hit the same problem
[11:37] <piel> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/TUGxQaiw
[11:37] <piel> ;c
[11:37] <ikonia> piel: that doesn't show an error, that shows a sucessful startup
[11:38] <tangwenhao> anybody?
[11:38] <piel> i don't connect to localhsot 5432
[11:38] <popey> !ask | tangwenhao
[11:38] <piel> pg_cluster show me 'status - down'
[11:38] <tangwenhao> i see
[11:39] <ikonia> piel: bad; vendor preset: enabled suggest you've not actually changed the package version
[11:39] <ikonia> you've just changed the version number in the paste
[11:43] <feros_> can someone help me to solve wireless disconnect problem?
[11:44] <piel> ikonia: this repo is good version for my ubuntu
[11:44] <piel> postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ for xenial
[11:44] <laice> !ask | feros_
[11:45] <feros_> i got disconnect every some minutes when i plug-in my external wireless adapter,
[11:46] <feros_> laice, sorry my mistake
[11:46] <laice> feros_: no problem :)  Silly question, laptop / netbook via a usb port for the connection?
[11:46] <feros_> laice, laptop Lenovo-ideapad-100-15IBY
[11:47] <feros_> laice, is wireless usb mini adapter
[11:47] <piel> i have new problem http://wklej.org/id/2976123/
[11:48] <laice> feros_: not able to use the built-in wireless in this case?  I'd advise checking the USB port isn't in a bad way, for lack of a better test, jiggle it gently! do you lose connection when you knock the device?
[11:49] <OerHeks> piel, line 16, java8 not installed?
[11:49] <piel> not installed
[11:50] <laice> feros_: Failing that, could you let us know the model number of the wireless adaptor?  Just in case it's drivers (lspci -knn | grep Net -A2)
[11:51] <OerHeks> piel,  that regex error is a known issue > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/1538284
[11:51] <feros_> laice, the built-in got some problem pure signal strenght and i can't connect to the access point of my univerity... so i buy this external... but when i plug-in the external i got full signal strenght and i can connect but after some minutes i get disconnect and that happen every some minutes sometimes 2 minutes sometime 10 minutes
[11:51] <ikonia> piel: how do you have an install problem
[11:51] <ikonia> piel: you just told me you already had it installed - where you telling me lies ?
[11:51] <ikonia> why are you trying to install 9.5 when you just posted a paste that said "I have 9.5 installed, see"
[11:51] <feros_> laice, its shows me only the built-in
[11:51] <AsymmetricalFace> dont you dare lying to ikonia
[11:52] <ikonia> AsymmetricalFace: please - don't do that
[11:52] <AsymmetricalFace> ikonia, ok
[11:52] <piel> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/qHDRp0TD
[11:52] <ikonia> piel: stop
[11:52] <ikonia> piel: why are you installing 9.5 when you already have it installed (from what you showed me in a paste)
[11:52] <ikonia> was that not true - or is there a different problem
[11:52] <feros_> laice, yesterday a guy panos was trying to help me and his tell me that maybe conflic
[11:53] <feros_> laice, when i install ubuntu i got a similar problem with built-in adapter , do you wanna know what i have done? maybe it will help you
[11:54] <laice> feros_:  This does sound environmental.  There are legal limits / power limits on what a device like that can put out, and you may find the onboard wireless is also connected through an internal USB riser, hence having the same power supply.  You would benefit from a better antenna gain though.  Could you let me know the model of the external adaptor just to whether there's a known issue with the drivers?
[11:56] <feros_> EDUP wireless USB LAN mini adapter 150M | model : EP-MS150N
[11:58] <laice> feros_: run "iwconfig wlan0", does power management show as off?
[11:58] <laice> feros_: replace wlan0 with your usb device i should mention!
[11:59] <piel> ikonia: yes different problem
[11:59] <piel> ikonia: what are the opportunities?
[12:00] <feros_> laice, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23562867/ <- now i pluged the external but i am sure that in some minutes i will get a disconnect
[12:01] <feros_> laice, wlan0 is the built-in wlan1 the external
[12:01] <sewerrat> (j #rtlsdr
[12:07] <feros_> test
[12:09] <laice> feros_: assuming wlan1 is the USB, that's a definite improvement on signal strength.  does dmesg list any clues?
[12:09] <Tushar> drupal-google
[12:10] <feros_> laice, sorry i don't know what is dmesg i am new in linux
[12:10] <feros_> but i got yesterday problem report
[12:11] <laice> feros_: "dmesg | grep -i wlan1"
[12:11] <laice> !dmesg
[12:13] <laice> feros_: I apologise if my responses become sporadic, something requires my attention
[12:13] <feros_> laice, no problem no need to apologise
[12:14] <feros_> laice, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23562923/
[12:18] <djonas> Hello everyone, need some help with Qt
[12:18] <djonas> Someone here who has some tim?
[12:18] <djonas> *time
[12:22] <Kingsy> can someone tell me how I would go about upgrading to the latest version of kernel and drviers? I have this --> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers <--which should take care of drivers but what about the kernel? is there a nightly ppa for it?
[12:23] <bazhang> !mainline
[12:23] <bazhang> Kingsy, ^
[12:23] <djonas> http://askubuntu.com/questions/855697/install-cross-compiling-qt-failed-fatal-error-xcb-xinerama-h-no-such-file-or
[12:23] <sahmaran> slmn alkm
[12:24] <sahmaran> hi
[12:24] <sahmaran> friands
[12:25] <djonas> Hi @ all, need some help installing Qt. Someone out there?
[12:32] <feros> laice,  sorry i got disconnect
[12:32] <Kingsy> bazhang: hrm damn it doesnt seem as seemless as I would have liked. Looks like you have to manually run patches
[12:32] <Kingsy> bazhang: you done this before?
[12:33] <bazhang> Kingsy, I tend to stick with the most stable, so no
[12:33] <Kingsy> yeah thats what I would prefer. but I am having random crashes on my ubuntu minimal installation.
[12:34] <Kingsy> X is totalyl frozen, cant get onto another TTY, ping and ssh say the machine is totally dead. YOu have to hard reset to get it back
[12:34] <Kingsy> bazhang: so other than installing kernel updates and driver updates I am kinda at a loss
[12:37] <syntax990> Guys
[12:37] <syntax990> I was wondering
[12:37] <syntax990> what is this:
[12:38] <darkash> Do you need a good computer to run ubuntu?
[12:39] <ikonia> piel: can you explain why you are installing postgres 9.5 - when you sent me a paste showing you already had it installed
[12:39] <OerHeks> darkash, no, there are lightweight desktops too
[12:39] <syntax990> www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DELL-XOS-M1710-17-LAPTOP-INTEL-CENTRINO-2GB-RAM-NO-HDD-/272424775607
[12:39] <syntax990> I can't find a picture anywhere else
[12:40] <syntax990> but those graphical discrepancies, can anyone explain what they are?
[12:41] <piel> ikonia: not important.important that it started to work. still i stand in the place
[12:41] <ikonia> piel: can you explain why you are installing postgres 9.5 - when you sent me a paste showing you already had it installed
[12:41] <djonas> http://askubuntu.com/q/855697/625763 Install cross-compiling Qt failed: fatal error: xcb/xinerama.h: No such file or directory
[12:42] <ikonia> djonas: expain the problem, not just cut and paste from other places
[12:43] <ice9> which trackpad utility is used in ubuntu by default?
[12:45] <OerHeks> synaptics, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[12:47] <OerHeks> djonas, is this for rasp pi?
[12:47] <Mister> i. can spam fall (if faux email then debug) under a de-bugger?
[12:48] <djonas> OerHeks, yes it is. But I want to install it on my VM to crosscompile the apps
[12:48] <ikonia> Mister: what ?
[12:48] <jhonnyBeGood> hi friends
[12:48] <neon_squirrel> Is anyone skilled in dconf?
[12:48] <jhonnyBeGood> i have a simple doubt....
[12:48] <Mister> yes
[12:48] <jhonnyBeGood> i am running ubuntu 16.04 and trying to install  postgis old version
[12:49] <Mister> i'm just proposing running evolution and running a debugging program for faux email or spam
[12:49] <ikonia> Mister: I don't know what you are asking
[12:50] <Mister> Is spam email bug
[12:50] <Mister> ?
[12:50] <ikonia> no
[12:50] <OerHeks> djonas, your post shows an usrl with possible solution: libxinerama-dev ; if this does not solve, i think #ubuntu-arm is a better place to ask
[12:50] <neon_squirrel> I need to know where the key hides to enable/disable the super key in GNOME3. Can anybody help me out?
[12:50] <Mister> even if I get it by 100s
[12:51] <Mister> ?
[12:51] <ikonia> Mister: yes
[12:51] <jhonnyBeGood> i need to install postgis-2.1 in a postgresql-9.5
[12:51] <Mister> jeesh
[12:51] <Mister> thanks
[12:51] <jhonnyBeGood> there is postgresql-9.4-postgis-2.1 but tehere are not   postgresql-9.5-postgis-2.1 just  postgresql-9.5-postgis-2.2
[12:52] <OerHeks> jhonnyBeGood, postgresql-9.5-postgis-2.2 got some security updates, use that version
[12:53] <jhonnyBeGood> the problem is that i am doing a database upgrade and it will complain about diff versions
[12:53] <djonas> OerHeks, ok I've already installed this package..  thanks for your help
[12:53] <jhonnyBeGood> so i have postgresql-9.4-postgis-2.1 .... i would like to have the postgis 2.1 package for 9.5
[12:54] <contrapunctus> I tried upgrading Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04, the kernel failed to build and it's unbootable with the new kernel version. Here's the output from - dpkg --configure -a http://ix.io/1Jc8 apt dist-upgrade - http://ix.io/1Jc9 the same, after removing /var/crash/iwlwifi* - http://ix.io/1Jck and after trying to remove the old kernel - http://ix.io/1Jlw
[12:55] <ikonia> contrapunctus: I'd fix this first
[12:55] <ikonia> N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[12:55] <ikonia> then I'd look at your repos and see / check packages from external repos
[12:56] <laice> feros: I've been looking through that dmesg pastebin and something's definitely rejecting the authentication.  Honestly with the power of -67dB for the primary adaptor, that should be working fine also.  It's as if period checks are rejecting your MAC addresses
[12:58] <feros> laice, i don't understand that about MAC address
[12:59] <feros> laice, when i connect with my cell phone i don't get disconnect
[13:01] <contrapunctus> ikonia: should I rename that file to not have/have ".conf" an extension?
[13:01] <contrapunctus> * as an
[13:04] <laice> feros_: This should help clarify the reason codes provided by wpa_supplicant: http://www.aboutcher.co.uk/2012/07/linux-wifi-deauthenticated-reason-codes/
[13:04] <laice> feros: 2 and 3 are the ones you're seeing
[13:04] <ikonia> contrapunctus: without knowing the file/error, I can't say
[13:05] <laice> feros: reason 3 seems to suggest that the remote endpoint is disconnecting you
[13:08] <feros> laice,  i dont think thats the problem...because even if i connect to hotspot of my mobile it happen again
[13:11] <contrapunctus> ikonia: paste.ubuntu.com/23563130
[13:18] <contrapunctus> ikonia: there's also a "50unattended-upgrades" file in the same dir - paste.ubuntu.com/23563155/
[13:19] <feros> Which of ubuntu should i download i got intel proseccor with architectur i686
[13:19] <theblazehen> feros 32 bit
[13:19] <feros> theblazehen, after i download how i can burn bootable dvd from ubuntu 14.04 ?
[13:20] <theblazehen> feros Don't have a usb?
[13:20] <feros> theblazehen, i got one but i need it for backup my files
[13:21] <theblazehen> feros /me doesn't know then, sorry. Don't have a ubuntu system handy. Maybe something will pop up if you double click the iso you download
[13:22] <feros> theblazehen, ok thanks mate
[13:22] <theblazehen> feros any time
[13:23] <OerHeks> brasero is standard, click the iso and it will open
[13:29] <d4ve01f> Hi everyone
[13:40] <HoloIRCUser2> Good morning everyone.
[13:42] <p_d> Ubuntu software closes automatically please help.
[13:45] <CrypticNetwork> p_d try using sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install app-install-data
[13:46] <CrypticNetwork> Then re open the software center.
[13:46] <p_d> This is the output-http://paste.ubuntu.com/23563286/ When I type ubuntu-software in Terminal
[13:46] <p_d> okay
[13:46] <gereta> Hi, how do I change /usr/bin/env python to point to python 2.7? I tried doing alias python=python2.7 but that doesn't change the version of python called by env python.
[13:47] <eilto> /usr/bin/env python2.7?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:48] <gereta> eilto: I want to change /usr/bin/env python to point to python2.7 instead of python3.5, so that when bash scripts have #!/usr/bin/env python at the start they run in python2.7
[13:48] <gereta> eilto: but I don't want to change the bash script itself because that's less convenient
[13:49] <p_d> CrypticNetwork, no changes. it is closing within 1-2 secs after start
[13:50] <p_d> - No answers here too- http://askubuntu.com/questions/608235/ubuntu-software-center-closes-immediately-after-opening
[13:52] <gereta> i.e. running "python" loads python2.7, but running "env python" loads python3.5. What can I do to change it so "env python" runs python2.7?
[13:54] <brunch875> gereta: that's pretty wild. When I env python, it launches python2.7
[13:54] <p_d> CrypticNetwork, you there?
[13:58] <gereta> brunch875: thanks, that helped me fix it! I uninstalled my anaconda python program and env python now points to python2.7 :)
[13:58] <contrapunctus> ikonia: ?
[13:58]  * brunch875 's ego was undeservingly boosted
[14:01] <ikonia> contrapunctus: what?
[14:01] <deanman> Hello running pastebinit with no configuration file on 16.04 and i get the following error "Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] EOF occurred in violation of protocol (_ssl.c:645)". Google does not give any hints what could be wrong.
[14:02] <deanman> running it with `-b http://paste.ubuntu.com' gives the following "Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (http://paste.ubuntu.com)"
[14:03] <ubuntu633> hello. Something is filling my ssd like there is no tomorrow. I checked a bit and apparently /var/log/kern.log is 36Gb right now.
[14:03] <ubuntu633> what do to see whats filling it?
 ikonia: should I rename that file to not have/have ".conf" an extension? <ikonia> contrapunctus: without knowing the file/error, I can't say <contrapunctus> ikonia: paste.ubuntu.com/23563130 <contrapunctus> ikonia: there's also a "50unattended-upgrades" file in the same dir - paste.ubuntu.com/23563155/
[14:14] <ikonia> contrapunctus: yes, and I told you without knowing your setup I can't comment,
[14:14] <contrapunctus> ikonia: I see...
[14:28] <hal-mb> I'm trying to install Ubuntu using the install disk, onto a disk that has existing partitions. I'm at the "installation type" screen that lists my partitions. I can't understand how to set the mountpoints. Also, none are listed under the "mount point" column.  can someone please help?
[14:30] <hal-mb> I've just worked it out
[14:35] <hex``> 3
[14:36] <piel> ikonia: so..
[14:36] <piel> still not working xd
[14:37] <blackflow> piel: you had a postgres issue?
[14:37] <OerHeks> postgresql-9.5-postgis-2.2 issue
[14:37] <ikonia> piel: want to tell the truth yet ?
[14:38] <ikonia> piel: did you modify that paste to pretend you have 9.5 ?
[14:38] <blackflow> I can't find a summary in the backlog, can someone tl;dr what the issue with it is?
[14:38] <OerHeks> * from that 3rd party repo..
[14:38] <piel> the problem is version 9.6, 9.5 and probably below
[14:39] <ikonia> piel: did you modify that paste to pretend you have 9.5 ?
[14:39] <piel> i have current 9.5 verion
[14:39] <ikonia> piel: I'll ask one more time - do not dodge the question
[14:39] <ikonia> piel: did you modify that paste to pretend you have 9.5 ?
[14:40] <piel> my english is horrible
[14:40] <OerHeks> piel, you still mess with that repo i guess, show the output of:: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:41] <llogiq> Hi folks, I'd like to remap some keys (AltGr + cursors to Home/End/PgUp/PgDn) but xmodmap doesn't appear to work (I'm on XUbuntu xenial on crouton, btw)
[14:46] <OerHeks> ikonia, this piel pm'd me  his sources.list.d output .. http://pastebin.com/ArqmMvQM ..
[14:47]  * OerHeks is growing a ppa-allergic
[14:47] <ikonia> OerHeks: I don't mind the PPA's I won't support someone who lies to you
[14:47] <ikonia> and I won't expect the channel to either
[14:47] <OerHeks> that too, the times in those pastes speak for itself
[14:48] <Kingsy> man o man, this is becoming really tiresome. I am getting random crashes on my ubuntu machine. Machine is totally dead, ssh and ping confirm.. hard reset required. Seems to happen randomly. I don't really want to upgrade the kernel and things.. should I have to do that? what steps can you take to debug theese kinda errors?
[14:48] <ikonia> why would you upgrade the kernel ?
[14:49] <DarsVaeda> hi, I'm facing some file permission problems, I have a user and group www-data that has rights to the folder and files, I added a user and put him to the www-data group but now when changing the permissions of those folders and files I get "operation not permitted"?
[14:49] <blackflow> Kingsy: for starters, isolate the issue? dmesg or journalctl -p -err -n
[14:49] <DarsVaeda> but that user is in the same group? why am I getting these errors?
[14:49] <blackflow> Kingsy: sorry,  -p err -n
[14:50] <blackflow> Kingsy: also make it persistent across reboots, as the defaults is volatile, in-memory only journal
[14:51] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: changing permissions how, and as what user?
[14:52] <DarsVaeda> that user I created and added to www-data
[14:53] <DarsVaeda> with chmod
[14:54] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: only the owner or root can chmod a file/dir. your user being in the group does not make it the owner
[14:55] <Kingsy> blackflow: how do you make it persistant across reboots?
[14:56] <blackflow> Kingsy: man journald.conf    see section about Storage param
[14:57] <DarsVaeda> blackflow: then this docu would be wrong? I'm following this magento installation: http://devdocs.magento.com/guides/v2.0/install-gde/prereq/integrator_install_ce.html#mage-owner-create-user
[14:57] <Kingsy> blackflow: thanks
[14:57] <DarsVaeda> I'm at step 5 now
[14:59] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: I don't know and sorry, I'm not going to read that. The bottom line is, if you want to chmod a file or dir you must be its owner or use sudo. Or do extended ACLs on those paths and allow other users to chmod
[15:00] <DarsVaeda> shouldn't I be the owner if I ran the script that creates them?
[15:01] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: depends. look at the file (eg. stat /your/file) and see who the owner is.
[15:02] <Kingsy> blackflow: alright I have that persistant now.
[15:02] <Kingsy> I'll just run journalctl -p err -n <-- after rebooting from a crash now? see if there is anything interesting ?
[15:02] <DarsVaeda> -rw-rw-r--  1 www-data www-data -> and my user is in www-data
[15:02] <blackflow> Kingsy:
[15:02] <blackflow> Kingsy: yes
[15:03] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: so, the owner is www-data. Your user may be in the GROUP that's also called "www-data", but that user is not www-data and not the owner of that path
[15:04] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: maybe it confuses you that the group and user are NAMED the same? but those are two separate entities.
[15:05] <DarsVaeda> no the documentation confuses me or better said: as I read it it says that it works differently
[15:06] <DarsVaeda> but although that software is a piece of...I doubt that part is wrong, so I wonder where I am wrong
[15:06] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: you doubt and yet.... you can't do what it says.
[15:07] <DarsVaeda> "To enable the web server to write files and directories in the Magento file system but to also maintain ownership by the Magento file system owner, both users must be in the same group."
[15:08] <DarsVaeda> both users must be in the group, well as you say that is wrong then?
[15:08] <Kingsy> blackflow: thankyou!
[15:08] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: no, I did not say that. All I said was that only the owner or root can chmod a file/dir.
[15:09] <blackflow> I don't know what you're trying to do there, but... your "user" cannot chmod files owned by "www-data" even though it is in group "www-data".
[15:09] <Kingsy> blackflow: will systemd catch everything? all errors?
[15:10] <DarsVaeda> blackflow: yeah I got that ;)
[15:10] <blackflow> Kingsy: no idea, but I'm thinking of hardware issues and those should be logged, UNLESS the issues are with disk IO so the log about the error never lands on the disk because of that error
[15:12] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: that line is about "write files and directories"  though. And with that yes, your "user" can write to a file/dir owned by GROUP "www-data" if the "user" is in that group and the file/dir has g+w
[15:12] <KlausedSource> hey guys, i got a question. i got a network printer. i want 1 spool for 1 kind of paper and another 1 for the other kind. the printer always has both kinds of paper. when i install a printer with cups i need to enter the IP. can i just go and make a "duplicate" entry with the same IP
[15:12] <DarsVaeda> hmm, well later they say log in as Magento file system owner, which is not www-data, and do chmod
[15:13] <DarsVaeda> but that's not possible then
[15:13] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: it's possible to "inherit" all that with umasks, so the files created by "www-data:www-data" process, will create files that have g+w already applied.
[15:13] <DarsVaeda> I guess that is what that part of the docu wants to do
[15:14] <DarsVaeda> I'm also getting permission errors with www-data changing the group of files and folders -.-
[15:15] <blackflow> sure, if www-data doesn't own them....
[15:15] <blackflow> btw, this sounds like you've got two different installation procedures going on
[15:15] <blackflow> typically, a web app will run as some user X and only as that one user. X can be "www-data" by default.
[15:15] <Kingsy> blackflow: what about driver issues? or software misconfiguration? those will be logged in there right?
[15:16] <DarsVaeda> blackflow: the files in question are also -rw-rw-r-- www-data www-data
[15:16] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: so the wep app has full ownership rights over the files created as the process it runs as
[15:16] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: ah so the question is, who owns the PHP process
[15:16] <blackflow> Kingsy: maybe, probably.
[15:17] <Kingsy> alright, well its worth a shot
[15:17] <blackflow> Kingsy: journald logs all that syslog did before systemd. so whatever gets sent to it, will get logged. Not all programs will log to syslog/journald tho'
[15:17] <blackflow> Kingsy: but in case of kernel panics, hardware issues, etc... it should all be logged yes.
[15:17] <DarsVaeda> blackflow: well whatever does something it doesn't have the correct user, group or whatever, not?
[15:17] <Kingsy> gret.
[15:17] <Kingsy> great*
[15:18] <athena> hi everyone
[15:19] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: sounds like it. What I'd do is check that the PHP runs as the user:group that will own the paths that must be WRITABLE by it.
[15:20] <blackflow> For example, it's a standard praactice to own files by root (so a PHP vuln won't modify itself), and chown only paths it is allowed to write in, as a non-root user, www-data or something else
[15:20] <blackflow> as long as that user is the user PHP process runs as
[15:22] <DarsVaeda> php has a function to return the user it runs as, not sure if that's reliable but it returns nothing, which sounds wrong
[15:23] <Tachyon_> hello. I am trying on ubuntu xenial to install packages from ubuntu yakkety/zesty. is this possible ?
[15:23] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: check the PHP config. How is it run? Via php5-fpm? As Apache DSO/mod_php ?
[15:24] <DarsVaeda> I'm running php cli
[15:25] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: are you not running Magento as a web application?
[15:25] <DarsVaeda> I'm not even there yet, I'm stuck at the installation
[15:25] <DarsVaeda> or not even...I just have created the installation folder with composer
[15:25] <DarsVaeda> and now I try to set the permissions as the docu states
[15:27] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: Well, you pretty much have only two options. Assuming PHP process will be run as "www-data":   1) install and own all Magento files as "root", except writable dirs that are root:www-data owned and chmod to 770     or 2) install and own all Magento files as "www-data" in which case it doesn't matter how you chmod them, defaults 755 dirs and 644 files are okay.   Now, personally, I'd recommend
[15:27] <blackflow> #1
[15:29] <blackflow> (there's also a much more secure but more complex set up where web server runs as one user, PHP as another, but that's a subset of #1)
[15:30] <scalper> hey
[15:30] <DarsVaeda> that won't help much, I'm stuck with this coming from a working installation, web-wise, problem is that magento has a cli script to switch to a developer mode, but that fails due to file permissions and if I pass them I get server erros
[15:30] <scalper> how can i know if i have a LVM configuration? i mean: i can backup my ubuntu only on this conditions: The system is MBR/GPT partitions. LVM configurations are not supported.
[15:31] <scalper> i remember i enabled during the ubuntu installation to have support for LVM partitions, but i'm not sure if my ubuntu has got it enable in anway
[15:32] <EriC^^> scalper: pastebin sudo parted -l
[15:33] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: maybe there's #magento or something? Sounds your problem is highly specific to whatever that script is trying to do, and not Ubuntu specific. I'm sorry I can't help you more as I have no idea what that script does.
[15:34] <DarsVaeda> that's no problem at all, thanks for helping me at all :)
[15:34] <scalper> Eric: http://pastebin.com/6VFBRZCD
[15:35] <p_d> EriC^^: can you help regarding the new "Ubuntu Software"
[15:39] <Rob235> hey
[15:40] <scalper> Eric: any progress on what i asked and what i did paste for you?
[15:40] <Rob235> I can't seem to connect to smb shares on ubuntu, the shares are from different systems.  It just keeps asking for a password even though i enter it correctly
[15:41] <EriC^^> scalper: yup, you do have lvm
[15:41] <EriC^^> scalper: what are you trying to do?
[15:42] <scalper> EriC^^: http://support.macrium.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8560
[15:42] <scalper> so the next time i will install it without lvm
[15:42] <scalper> coming next month a new installation
[15:44] <jalf> hi
[15:44] <jalf> hola a todos
[15:44] <Rob235> que pasa
[15:45] <jalf> este es...? canal de soporte o qué?
[15:45] <Pici> !es | jalf
[15:45] <jalf> ok, thank you
[15:50] <roue> hola.
[15:51] <roue> I have a 12.04.5 system I'd like to upgrade to 16.04 . I know that I can use do-release-upgrade, but will take jump me directly to 16.04 or do I need to upgrade to 14.04.5 first as an intermediate step?
[15:51] <roue> Thanks.
[15:52] <OerHeks> roue, indeed, 12.04>14.04>16.04 , 2 steps
[15:52] <roue> OerHeks thanks.
[15:52] <OerHeks> with a lot of new services, you might want to consider fresh install
[15:52] <CarlFK> Where is the page that tells a Windows user how to put the ubuntu installer on a usb stick?  google took me here, but I as hoping for a more recent  ubuntu.com page http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/how-to-create-bootable-ubuntu-live-usb-with-unetbootin/
[15:53] <ikevin> CarlFK, https://unetbootin.github.io/
[15:53] <OerHeks> CarlFK, avoid unetbootin, try rufus or etcher http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source
[15:56] <nedbat> This script adds a user to sudoers.d, and also to the sudo group: https://github.com/vadviktor/packer-vagrant-box-u1604x64/blob/master/scripts/base.sh#L15-L17  Are both steps necessary? They seem like they accomplish the same thing.
[15:56] <ikonia> depends on how you want to use sudo
[15:56] <ikonia> I'd question why you need a script for that
[15:56] <ikonia> more so if you're using an image in vagrant
[15:57] <DarsVaeda> blackflow: I can't even set permissions as root to those files
[15:57] <nedbat> ikonia: this is a script that creates the vagrant base box.
[15:57] <nedbat> ikonia: can you tell me about the ways to use sudo, and how the two things here relate?
[15:57] <ikonia> nedbat: no
[15:57] <nedbat> ikonia: thanks :(
[15:57] <ocx32_> why do i need a tty to run su or login
[15:58] <ikonia> nedbat: you need to research and understand that yourself rather than just blindly running scripts
[15:58] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: pastebin a full example along with "stat /foo/bar" where foo/bar is the file you can't chmod even as root
[15:58] <ikonia> ocx32_: where do you expect them to run ?
[15:58] <nedbat> ikonia: asking here was part of my research.
[15:58] <ocx32_> why ls works for example
[15:58] <ocx32_> they run on the same place no?
[15:58] <ikonia> ocx32_: ls doesn't work without a terminal
[15:58] <ocx32_> whats a terminal
[15:58] <ocx32_> sty tty
[15:59] <ikonia> a tty
[15:59] <ocx32_> pty
[15:59] <ocx32_> i get that a shell works in a terminal
[15:59] <ikonia> ocx32_: why don't you give us your actual problem
[15:59] <ikonia> as you're not really making sense in what you're saying
[15:59] <ocx32_> i got into an interactive shell  but cant  su
[15:59] <ikonia> what interactive shell ?
[16:00] <ocx32_> reverse shell
[16:00] <ikonia> what's reverse shell ?
[16:00] <ocx32_> sh
[16:00] <DarsVaeda> blackflow: one example is https://gist.github.com/steros/f94a115f5515ce28924dca76d5f4da98
[16:00] <ikonia> what are you talking about "reverse shell"
[16:00] <CarlFK> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows  is this still 'good' ?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> clothing ?
[16:01] <OerHeks> CarlFK, sure, rufus or etcher
[16:01] <CarlFK> thanks - had to use google to find it.  grumble ;)
[16:02] <OerHeks> CarlFK, sorry you missed my answer then
[16:03] <CarlFK> I wanted something that was a little more commercially looking for .. ya know.. windows users that are leary of happy hippy open source fun time
[16:04] <BluesKaj> uhmm .....???
[16:05] <OerHeks> CarlFK, we don't deal paid stuff with keygenerators .. windows style :-D
[16:05] <ocx32_> ikonia: you mean you need a tty for a shell to work?
[16:05] <ocx32_> a shell can work without a tty
[16:05] <ikonia> ocx32_: to be interactive you do
[16:05] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: that's not a full example. I wanted to see exactly what you run and what the error is.
[16:05] <ocx32_> thats the part i am not understanding
[16:06] <ocx32_> like why it works when it is not interactive
[16:06] <ikonia> because you don't need to interact with it, so there is no need for a tty to act as "window" to the shell
[16:06] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: so unless that's a fully local path and not an NFS mount or something, you should be able to chmod it as root. Also unless you're running some kind of MAC framework like selinux
[16:07] <ocx32_> ikonia: the workflow is like say i dont need to interact with it, i send an ls it sends back the output
[16:07] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: sorry, I borked that line, I mean as long as it's a local path and not a nfs mount
[16:07] <ikonia> ocx32_: thats interactive
[16:07] <ocx32_> oh
[16:07] <ikonia> as the output of ls is displayed to a screen
[16:07] <BluesKaj> CarlFK, happy hippy open source fun time ... are you referring to opensource as some kinf hippy thing, well, you're way off base on that
[16:07] <ocx32_> whats a non interactive? like echo ?
[16:07] <ikonia> ocx32_: whats the real usecase you're doing
[16:07] <ikonia> you want to exeute a shell script ?
[16:07] <DarsVaeda> blackflow: it's an ubuntu instance in a virtualbox run by vagrant but I do everything from within the machine
[16:08] <ocx32_> ikonia: just trying to understand the need for a tty
[16:08] <ocx32_> the whole process
[16:08] <ocx32_> understand purpose only
[16:08] <ikonia> out of scope for this channel
[16:08] <CarlFK> BluesKaj: "I" am all over it.  some other people however ...
[16:09] <BluesKaj> CarlFK, then those people are terribly misinformed
[16:09] <ocx32_> >
[16:10] <blackflow> DarsVaeda: I don't know if that setup is something special (the Vagrant part) but... if you can't do that even as root, then something much bigger is going on, like read-only mounts, MAC, facl munging or gods know what.
[16:11] <CarlFK> BluesKaj: i know.  there are 100's of them.   100s!!!
[16:11] <DarsVaeda> okay I'll dig into that part, maybe I'll find something
[16:19] <ocx32_> ikonia: \
[16:19] <DarkStar1> Hi guys I'd like a user to be able to have the CAP_SYS_CHROOT capability so I added this to my sudoers file: lool	ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/setcap
[16:20] <DarkStar1> only thing is that when I run the programs it keeps telling me that the user does not have the CAP_SYS_CHROOT capability
[16:21] <DarkStar1> Is there something wrong with the line in the sudoers file?
[16:25] <rockyh> hi!
[16:26] <nacc> DarsVaeda: um, that's not how you do that?
[16:26] <nacc> DarsVaeda: sorry!, they left :/
[16:26] <DarsVaeda> np
[16:26] <captain_fixerpc1> gui back
[16:28] <rockyh> how to start parallel downloads while reading links from a source file? I read about aria2c, but it is not clear from the documentation if it starts multiple connections for each file to be downloaded, or it starts multiple downloads in a parallel way. Does someone know it?
[16:29] <captain_fixerpc1>  do I get back to the other terminals
[16:29] <yocs0000> rockyh: why no just firefox?
[16:29] <yocs0000> captain_fixerpc1: alt tab, probably! :)
[16:29] <akik> captain_fixerpc1: ctrl+alt+f1-f7
[16:30] <rockyh> yocs0000: because it is a script
[16:30] <rockyh> at least a text interface is needed
[16:32] <yocs0000> rockyh: are you using http or ftp or .... ?
[16:32] <rockyh> yocs0000: http
[16:36] <yocs0000> rockyh: wget?
[16:38] <rockyh> yocs0000: of course, but wget performs one download at a time; I would like instead to perform multiple downloads at the same time
[16:39] <ice9> what scheduling algorithm used in Ubuntu?
[16:40] <nicomach1s> rockyh: use a for loop
[16:41] <nicomach1s> also I believe that wget can read a file and download all URLs in ti
[16:41] <nicomach1s> it*
[16:41] <nicomach1s> and curl definitely can
[16:41] <th0r> rockyh,  interesting possibilty. could you not start multiple instances of wget in the same terminal, ending each command with '&'  ?
[16:42] <rockyh> nicomach1s: I tried a while loop, but each wget waited for the previous one to end before starting
[16:42] <rockyh> th0r: maybe I can
[16:42] <blackflow> ice9: grep "SCHED" /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[16:42] <rockyh> I never tried it
[16:42] <th0r> rockyh, I haven't either...but would be interesting to try
[16:43] <yocs0000> rockyh: well, you can call more than one instance of wget .... each one of them would indeendently download in parallel
[16:43] <th0r> bingo :)
[16:44] <hitachi[m]>   😂
[16:45] <yocs0000> rockyh: for example using the -b option, which sends the get in the background ....
[16:46] <yocs0000> rockyh: or closing the wget call with an ampersand (&)
[16:46] <rockyh> th0r, yocs0000 I used now wget with "&". How many concurrent wgets would you suggest to use at maximum?
[16:47] <rockyh> (it worked with "&", but maybe too much concurrent wget are to be avoided)
[16:47] <th0r> rockyh, I would keep an eye on cpu load, and maybe bandwidth if on a slow net connection
[16:47] <blackflow> rockyh: http://stackoverflow.com/a/11850469
[16:52] <fruitbowl> alpin or ubuntu server? for security that is
[16:52] <ikonia> alpin is community support
[16:52] <ikonia> how can you take that seriously for security
[16:53] <fruitbowl> well they do say it's hardened out of the box
[16:53] <ikonia> they are wrong then
[16:53] <ikonia> and they are stupid if they think it 'stays' hard
[16:53] <nacc> fruitbowl: what someone "says" is not how you deteremine security
[16:53] <nacc> fruitbowl: you do an analysis and figure out how secure it is, or trust a 3rd party to do a thorough analysis
[16:53] <fruitbowl> i know that just wondering myself
[16:54] <nacc> fruitbowl: and this is the ubuntu support channel, so not ontopic :/
[16:54] <fruitbowl> just have a basic server i need to setup for development
[16:56] <fruitbowl> using eclipse che setup on either ubuntu server or alpine and open vpn tunnel so i can access the LAN anywhere
[16:56] <fruitbowl> what problems might i face here?
[16:56] <ikonia> security as you've just said
[16:56] <ikonia> harder to manage as you've got two different distros for some reason
[16:56] <nacc> fruitbowl: this is for support of actual issues, not hypothetical ones, honestly. Pick one and do it, see what happens?
[16:57] <ikonia> lag as you're using a fat IDE over a network
[16:57] <rockyh> thank you blackflow !
[16:58] <fruitbowl> well i'm more familiar with ubuntu server tbh
[16:58] <fruitbowl> so prob use that
[16:59] <fruitbowl> i can set up all the stuff just what can i do to make it more secure?
[16:59] <ikonia> address any disks
[16:59] <yocs0000> rockyh: it depends on the size of the files you are downloading and on your bandwith and on the bandwith you expect betwen you and the server .... maybe around a maximu of 8 an at any one time?
[16:59] <ikonia> it's that simple
[17:00] <fruitbowl> any good alternatives other than eclipse che
[17:01] <ikonia> you need to do some research fruitbowl
[17:01] <ikonia> we can't respond without usecases / requirements
[17:01] <blackflow> fruitbowl: for which language?
[17:02] <fruitbowl> well mainly python flask type stuff
[17:02] <blackflow> fruitbowl: then PyCharm, hands down
[17:03] <fruitbowl> yes but needs to be accessed over the net over vpn, some sort of in browser ide with docker/container support
[17:03] <ikonia> fruitbowl: you've just said silly words
[17:04] <ikonia> fruitbowl: a browser based IDE - with docker / container support
[17:04] <ikonia> what does that even mean ?
[17:04] <blackflow> indeed
[17:04] <fruitbowl> like eclipse che ide have you seen it
[17:04] <ikonia> yes, but that is nothing to do with docker or containers
[17:04] <ikonia> and it's not a browser based app
[17:04] <fruitbowl> http://www.eclipse.org/che/
[17:04] <AaronZz> need help here
[17:05] <blackflow> ogawd the wall of buzzwords on that site :)
[17:05] <ikonia> fruitbowl: you're out of scope for this channel
[17:05] <nacc> !ask | AaronZz
[17:05] <fruitbowl> i know i run on server at home and from my open vpn tunnel can connect to 192.168.1.101 (ubuntu server)
[17:08] <fruitbowl> do you understand what i'm trying to do now?
[17:08] <AaronZz> I have ubuntu 16.04 installed and suddenly it stopped to recognize my ms keyboard, mouse and external hd.
[17:08] <ikonia> fruitbowl: you're out of scope for this channel to be honest
[17:08] <fruitbowl> right thanks
[17:13] <yocs0000> blackflow: veeeeeery much so .... but I like their website template! Do you know what it it?
[17:23] <Tachyon_> what can I do if gedit refuse to start ? andrei@andrei-desktop:~$ gedit gedit: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.58.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:31] <blackflow> Tachyon_: try reinstall it? How did it happen, what did you change?
[17:33] <Tachyon_> blackflow: well.. I was messing today with boost because I want to get working boost 1.62 and filters for zlib and I think I deleted manually a little too much from /usr/*
[17:35] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: can you remove all configuration files first of all?
[17:35] <xangua> Tachyon_: if you don't know what you deleted, backup and reinstall
[17:35] <Tachyon_> I just deleted libboost_* files
[17:35] <Tachyon_> nothinig else
[17:35] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: if not I would recommend sudo apt-get purge gedit and then reinstall ....
[17:37] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: from /usr/lib????
[17:37] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: why????
[17:38] <crippa> hi. how to I check which scripts are called at init time?
[17:38] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: well.. I see wasn't a good idea.. but I was a little too desperate to uninstall libboost-dev with everything
[17:39] <ikonia> crippa: look at the systemd status of the services
[17:40] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: that was not a good idea at all .... have you kept track of the pacakges you deleted?
[17:40] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: sorry, the files you deleted?
[17:42] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: I guess I have the terminal history ...
[17:43] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: yes, and save it now .... you need to look at which packags you have broken
[17:44] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: using apt-file find should do the trick
[17:44] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: "only" that http://pastebin.com/2r5WnUKn
[17:45] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: that is really good .... run "sudo apt-file find" in a terminal on each file you have deleted ....
[17:46] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: for example, sudo apt-file find /usr/include/boost/
[17:46] <Tachyon_> I can fell the sarcasm :(
[17:46] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: sudo: apt-file: command not found
[17:47] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: I see .... then first of all sudo apt-get install apt-file
[17:48] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: then sudo apt-file update
[17:48] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: tht would updte the dtabase of apt-file
[17:48] <Tachyon_> did this
[17:49] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: good, now run sudo apt-file fild on every file / directory you have removed
[17:49] <Tachyon_> I am doing it
[17:49] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: it will tell you which packages to reinstall
[17:50] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: like libcppnetlib-dev ?
[17:51] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: exactly! this is one of the library I expected!
[17:51] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: and what I do with it ?
[17:51] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: so, you now do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall" for all the pacakges that come out of apt-file find
[17:52] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: for example sudo apt-get install --reinstall libcppnetlib-dev
[17:53] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: so on, until you have done all the list, and everything should be back to normal
[17:53] <Tachyon_> hope us
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> Tachyon_  i havent followed... what you can do, to make it faster: make a text file with all the package names you removed, then use   cat [that file] | xargs sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[17:55] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: yes of course .... but seen the level of damage, and your understanding of the system (no offence intended), I would use a more cautious approach .... MonkeyDust
[17:56] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: no problem, I'm new to ubuntu.. a reinstall wouldn't be a really big problem
[17:59] <blackflow> Tachyon_: take a look at debsums to help you reinstall broken packages, in case you deleted more than you think
[18:00] <Tachyon_> blackflow: this might be a better idea
[18:03] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: yeah I did it !
[18:03] <Tachyon_> thank you very much
[18:06] <hitachi[m]> Hello
[18:06] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: now, back to my original problem which caused me to delete too much.. can I get libboost-dev(1.61/1.62) from zesty/yakkety in xenial ?
[18:09] <tomreyn> Tachyon_: not from official repositories. maybe from a PPA. why do you need these versions?
[18:10] <Tachyon_> tomreyn: I use features which are not included in 1.58
[18:10] <bashhy> Hey, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to install ohsnap fonts under 16.10
[18:10] <bashhy> I've put them in a dir, called mkfontscale and mkfontdir on that directory, and used the xset fp commands, but they do not show up in xfontsel or xlsfonts, anyone know why?
[18:10] <Tachyon_> tomreyn: like some new things in boost.endian and boost.dll
[18:17] <DonDS> good evening, i just want to ask lamers question: i want to set an alias permanentely, where to go?
[18:17] <nacc> DonDS: put it in your .bashrc?
[18:17] <tomreyn> Tachyon_: you use these features in what, a software you are developing?
[18:18] <DonDS> nacc: i'll try that
[18:18] <Tachyon_> tomreyn: yes, a personal project
[18:18] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: sorry, I was away .... have you tried backport?
[18:18] <tomreyn> Tachyon_: do you mean to package this software for ubuntu 16.04, or just develop it?
[18:19] <Tachyon_> tomreyn: just develop
[18:19] <Tachyon_> yocs0000: backport... ?
[18:19] <DonDS> nacc: where is that file located?
[18:19] <PickledEggs> I'm having some issues escaping from a KVM guest full screen using virt-manager on Ubuntu 16.10 - hovering at the top center doesn't bring down the send-key/unmaximize window as expected. Anybody else experienced this?
[18:20] <tomreyn> Tachyon_: then you should install the source code the way the boost project suggests, i.e. probably a tar download or git.
[18:20] <PickledEggs> It's a CentOS 7 guest if that makes any difference, both from a gui and terminal session if that matters
[18:20] <Tachyon_> tomreyn: I've done that, but it's very time consuming to build boost every time on a Travis CI I set
[18:21] <Tachyon_> tomreyn: on my computer it's no problem
[18:21] <DonDS> nacc: nevermind, as ic its already in my ~home
[18:21] <Pelle`> Hi, does anyone have any real life experience running ubuntu with a elgato thunderbolt 2 hub? im curious if it works or not since elgato themselves cant give me an answer?
[18:21] <nacc> DonDS: yeah, ~/.bashrc, sorry
[18:21] <tomreyn> Tachyon_: travis ci allows you to cache stuff, chekc out the documentation and #travis
[18:21] <yocs0000> Tachyon_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[18:22] <nacc> PickledEggs: do you need to be escaped out of the guest (ctrl + alt, iirc?) to hvae virt-manager recognize the mouse?
[18:22] <PickledEggs> nacc: forgot to mention that I've tried that with no joy
[18:22] <nacc> PickledEggs: no idea, i've not used virt-manager recently :/
[18:24] <DonDS> nacc: thank you for the help, i tried to add ma alias and it works :-)
[18:24] <Tachyon_> tomreyn: I found very very hard to understand travis documentation unfortunatelly
[18:24] <yocs0000> has anyone been able to run virtual box and kvm on the same machine? How do you do it? I need virtualbox for some things and kvm for others ....
[18:24] <DonDS> karma++@nacc
[18:25] <DonDS> i'm not a linux man, to be honest. i prefere bsd, but i cant get use of it on this shitty netbook, so xUbuntu is good for me
[18:25] <PickledEggs> yocs0000: I haven't done it successfully, everything I've read said not to install two hypervisors on the same machine
[18:25] <nacc> DonDS: yw
[18:25] <nacc> yocs0000: why do you need two solutions?
[18:26] <SynfulAck> Generally speaking on bugreporting-since its my first time-is there any command that should be run to be included in a report?
[18:26] <PickledEggs> yocs0000: does you hardware support nested visualization? could you run virtual box inside a kvm vm to do what you need to?
[18:26] <DonDS> thank you for the support and have a good day, nacc. i really appreciate your help. puts("Live long - and prosper");
[18:26] <nacc> !bug | SynfulAck
[18:27] <yocs0000> nacc: because I have MS Virus 7 in a virtualbox, and now I need KVM to accelerate the emulator on Android Studio
[18:27] <captainfixerpc14> hmmm - all looks fine - but xorg.conf is empty - so it isn't using it
[18:27] <yocs0000> PickledEggs: see above!
[18:28] <tomreyn> Tachyon_: which is, in part, why i suggested to try their irc channel.
[18:28] <nacc> yocs0000: hrm, that's sad. I thought kvm could do MS too? Not sure what to suggest
[18:28] <captainfixerpc14> oops :P
[18:28] <yocs0000> nacc: yes, I hink so .... the issue is that I already have a well configured machine that ha sbeen working for a long time ad with lot of documents ....
[18:28] <PickledEggs> nacc: I've successfully install win7 in KVM, it's been a while though
[18:28] <Tachyon_> tomreyn: yes.. last time I did I didn't get an answer.. but I'll try again. thank you
[18:29] <PickledEggs> yocs0000: I think it's easy enough to convert a VB VHD to a qcow2 format and import to kvm
[18:29] <nacc> yocs0000: yeah, you should be able to at least test the VM comes up
[18:29] <nacc> yocs0000: after conversion, without destroying the vbox instance
[18:30] <yocs0000> PickledEggs: VHD? I use VDI ....
[18:30] <yocs0000> yes, it should be easy enough to copy and convert?
[18:31] <PickledEggs> yeah, I realized that was wrong as soon as I hit send - been working with Hyper-V a lot for one of my classes
[18:31] <nacc> yocs0000: that's what i would try first, i think
[18:33] <yocs0000> I will try .... good idea PickledEggs nacc!
[18:33] <yocs0000> PickledEggs: what do you teach?
[18:34] <amikrop> How can I find the path of the icon, a launcher is using? (launcher found eg in Dash)
[18:34] <PickledEggs> ha, hardly, I'm a network engineering student
[18:38] <PickledEggs> amikrop: have any idea what it might be called? you could " ls -R / 2> /dev/null | egrep '*\.ico' " and get a list of all the ico files on the system then "locate whatever.ico"
[18:38] <amikrop> PickledEggs: ok thanks
[18:42] <yocs0000> PickledEggs: whee?
[18:42] <PickledEggs> Seattle Central College
[18:44] <yocs0000> PickledEggs: do you use Ubuntu as well there?
[18:44] <bashhy> Okay, judging by fc-cache -fv my font is being 'seen' as it states there are 24 new fonts, but neither xfontsel nor xlsfonts lists the fonts
[18:44] <PickledEggs> nah, I just use Ubuntu on my personal machine, we use CentOS for our Linux classes
[18:44] <PickledEggs> we used Ubuntu for an intro class
[18:45] <yocs0000> PickledEggs: better than a kick in the teeth in any case!
[18:45] <PickledEggs> I also know it better than any other distro so I try to help people in here with simple problems when I can to get troubleshooting experience
[18:54] <Fleuv> Hello, why do youtube video's of 1080p 60 fps lag and eventually get stuck with: firefox - ubuntu 16.04 - 2,7 GiB - AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor × 2 - Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780 (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0) - 1920x1080 display
[19:05] <Jordan_U> Fleuv: Can you play 1080p 60 fps video with VLC or Chromium?
[19:20] <pitscher> hi :D
[19:21] <raul782> hi guys, my ubuntu stopped working
[19:22] <\9> raul782: define "stopped working", what exactly doesn't work?
[19:22] <\9> does it not start?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> raul782  more specifically...
[19:22] <raul782> hard drive is emitting this errors, blk_update_request: I/O error
[19:22] <raul782> I've just fsck all my partitions
[19:22] <\9> your hard drive is dead
[19:22] <\9> or at least dying
[19:23] <raul782> I'm in maintenance mode
[19:23] <\9> try to back up whatever you can
[19:23] <raul782> I've been able to recover from bad sectors for years.
[19:23] <\9> so.. you've been using a failing hard drive for years?
[19:23] <nacc> hrm, 'recovering from bad sectors' seems like a bad choice
[19:23] <raul782> yeah, this drive is like 6 years old
[19:23] <\9> it's busted
[19:23] <nacc> you should have immediately backed up the disk, then bought a new disk
[19:24] <raul782> ok, I already have 2 other drives attached
[19:25] <\9> i would suggest running smartctl on the two other then
[19:25] <\9> find out if they're going to go out too
[19:25] <\9> "sudo smartctl -a", that is
[19:26] <raul782> that's what I want to do, but smartctl is not installed
[19:26] <\9> smartctl, afaik, comes installed by default
[19:26] <\9> you can also use a live session
[19:26] <raul782> Ic, I believe I have an issue with my zsh shell
[19:27] <raul782> I've just tried to mkdir a folder and zsh said that the command was not found
[19:27] <\9> or maybe it's not found because your disk is dying
[19:27] <\9> try ls /bin/mkdir
[19:28] <skks> https://discord.gg/bQyzMxb ~ For all your programming needs!
[19:29] <raul782> yeah it doesn't exist
[19:29] <raul782> weird
[19:30] <jaith> hi everyone...hoping i can ask a question about inotifywait here?
[19:30] <\9> i don't see what's so weird. your hard drive is dead and your files are disappearing
[19:30] <\9> along with system programs
[19:30] <BusFactor1> sure
[19:31] <jaith> I can use inotifywait to monitor file access/changes in my home directory just fine
[19:31] <raul782> I'll install my ubuntu on my other hard drive, which is newer barely used
[19:31] <Henster> iis there a general issue whit Networking on the ubuntu server ?
[19:31] <jaith> but when i try to monitor the entire file system, the command just...quits? stops listening...
[19:31] <jaith> inotifywait -mr / -e access -e create -e close_write -e modify -e move -e delete --timefmt "%Y%m%d%H%M%S" --format "%Tw:%wf:%f e:%e" 2>&-
[19:31] <jaith> that command quits after 1-2 seconds
[19:32] <BusFactor1> jaith: it's recursing through the entire directory tree...basically too many files
[19:32] <BusFactor1> jaith: each directory requires initialzation to be watched, so the more files/directories you are watching the longer it will take to setup the watches
[19:32] <jaith> BusFactor1: it quits with no error message and returns to a new prompt after 1-2 seconds...would too many files cause a timeout or something? there's no error message
[19:33] <jaith> BusFactor1: it's not "hanging"...the command returns immediately with no error message
[19:33] <BusFactor1> jaith: might be a problem with trying to watch devices
[19:33] <jaith> BusFactor1: that's kinda what i was thinking
[19:33] <BusFactor1> or fifos maybe?
[19:33] <jaith> BusFactor1: can you suggest some means to monitor *any* changes on my files system? I'm trying to figure out ALL changes made when I install Compuser
[19:34] <jaith> BusFactor1: trying to burnish my security cred by monitoring changes made by various installers
[19:34] <BusFactor1> jaith: i'm suspecting some sort of FUSE overlay unionfs file system might be in order
[19:34] <jaith> BusFactor1: some have suggested samhain or aide, but I was hoping for some simple command to run on a VM. Also want to monitor network requests
[19:35] <BusFactor1> at least then you can overlay over top of your root file system and all writes will be put somewhere else that coulbe be monitored
[19:35] <jaith> BusFactor1: whoa that's greek to me.
[19:35] <BusFactor1> just a sec, i might be able to find something
[19:35] <jaith> BusFactor1: curious about reads also...want to know if installer is reading sensitive files.
[19:35] <BusFactor1> ah, yes
[19:36] <BusFactor1> here's something about unionfs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS
[19:38] <BusFactor1> jaith: this might come in handy https://launchpad.net/fatrace
[19:38] <BusFactor1> it logs all file access events from running processes
[19:38] <BusFactor1> so you could probably just filter on the pid of your installer
[19:40] <jaith> UnionFS looks tricky. Not sure how that solves the problem?
[19:40] <jaith> fatrace looks pretty awesome, but seems a bit ironic that I would install a package to figure out what file actions are taken by my packages
[19:41] <jaith> BusFactor1: do you think PID filter would be comprehensive enough? Mightnt the installer fork off a new process?
[19:42] <BusFactor1> i'm thinking that has been taken into consideration with the program somehow, but i can't say i've used it directly before to know
[19:42] <BusFactor1> Yes, unionfs won't give you what you need, my mistaken idea :)
[19:45] <jaith> aha...just had realization. took off the 2>&- at the end and see an error now: "Please increase the amount of inotify watches allowed per user via `/proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches'"
[19:45] <mcphail> jaith: Have a look at firejail to see if it does what you need. Inotify has an upper limt
[19:46] <jaith> i'm running this on a freshly installed/small VM
[19:48] <jaith> ah drat...got it to run but /dev/pts/f is changing continuously. Will check out other options you suggested
[19:48] <jaith> BusFactor1: thank you
[19:48] <BusFactor1> i'd not watch /dev
[19:49] <jaith> BusFactor1: any other dirs to exclude?  lost+found perhaps?
[19:49] <BusFactor1> shouldn't be anything in there
[19:49] <BusFactor1>  /dev and /proc
[19:49] <BusFactor1> and /sys
[19:49] <\9> maybe /tmp too
[19:51] <jaith> \9: i was thinking /tmp might be of interest...would be good to know if any installer is snooping around in there
[19:51] <\9> i wouldn't imagine there to be anything interesting but sure
[19:52] <glitchd> how can i log into a machine and pass the login screen (lightdm) on a machine the has no physical keyboard, but i have ssh access to?
[19:54] <jaith> \9: I think I've seen PHP configurations that write session files to somewhere in /tmp
[19:54] <\9> well.. yeah
[19:54] <\9> /tmp is RAM
[19:54] <FinalX> which they shouldn't and wouldn't in a default config in debian or ubuntu
[19:54] <jaith> BusFactor1: /sys doesn't seem to be a problem
[19:55] <jaith> BusFactor1: nor does /proc
[19:56] <FinalX>  /tmp _can_ be RAM but often isn't, /run is
[19:56] <BusFactor1> glitchd: ssh in, use openvt to open a new console and then Ctrl-Alt-Fn for whatever console you have openened
[19:56] <jaith> BusFactor1: oh wait maybe /proc is a problem...lots of activity there
[19:56] <\9> jaith: /sys and /proc aren't hard drive directories, but kernel API
[19:56] <BusFactor1> yes, lots of stuff goes on in proc all the time being a virtual file system
[19:56] <jaith> ok ok got it
[19:56] <BusFactor1> jaith: oops, nno keyboard, nm
[19:57] <BusFactor1> oops, wrong person haha, glitchd i mean
[19:57] <jaith> so exclude /proc, /run it seems need to be excluded
[19:57] <BusFactor1> glitchd: then, use switchvt to switch to the new vt...i think that would work
[19:57] <jaith> any thoughts on which dirs DEFINITELY need to be watched? I'm thinking /etc and /var
[19:58] <BusFactor1> when installing a package? /etc, /var, /usr, /tmp at least
[19:58] <BusFactor1>  /home if you're concerned about things being written to your home directory
[19:59] <\9> /bin and /sbin
[19:59] <\9> and /lib
[20:00] <FinalX> exclude /var/run, it's a symlink to /run, though technically it's a different filesystem so notify wouldn't trigger
[20:02] <S2492> with canonical being UK based and snooper's charter being passed, can ubuntu be trusted?
[20:02] <\9> ubuntu remains open source and it's still community-developed
[20:03] <BluesKaj> oh lord
[20:03] <\9> also they passed it now? jeepers
[20:04] <BluesKaj> let's not encourage internet paranoia
[20:04] <\9> S2492: the snooper's charter affects internet service providers. canonical is not one
[20:06] <jaith> S2492: boy do i have an inotifywait command for you ;)
[20:07] <S2492> but part of the snooper's charter includes backdooring crypto
[20:07] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[20:07] <ikonia> how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[20:07] <nacc> so far offtopic it doesn't even make sense
[20:08] <S2492> canonical is a UK company
[20:08] <nacc> S2492: this the ubuntu support channel
[20:08] <ikonia> S2492: what has this discussion got to do with ubuntu ?
[20:08] <nacc> S2492: for issues with Ubuntu itself
[20:08] <S2492> ah nevermind then
[20:08] <Dr-008> when i kill al process it says the id does not exist. when i then ps ax | grep openvpn again to see what ID it has it changed. why?
[20:09] <nacc> Dr-008: 'kill al process' ?
[20:10] <nacc> Dr-008: openvpn maybe respawns?
[20:10] <Stonas> Hello guys! i have a quick and maybe easy problem
[20:10] <jaith> OK got a pretty handy inotifywait command working. Anyone who's interested: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23564713/
[20:10] <Stonas> I want my Sony EyeToy Cam to work with Ubuntu 16.04.1 and the web search resulted in "it should work out of the box" - but it doesnt. it shows up in my list as Sony Corp but Cheese wont find any cams
[20:10] <jaith> any suggestions are welcome
[20:11] <Dr-008> nacc, yeah or kill <pid>
[20:11] <Dr-008> nacc, im trying to see if it respawns now in the logs
[20:12] <nacc> Dr-008: oh you mean you ran `killall openvpn` ?
[20:12] <Stonas> Any ideas on the Eyetoy Cam Problem? >.<
[20:13] <Dr-008> nacc i did both killall an kill
[20:13] <Dr-008> but its respawning
[20:13] <Dr-008> which is nice
[20:14] <docmur> What would I run on the command line to find all the IP's that have successfuly logged into my server?  I know who will show who is logged in and this:  zgrep sshd /var/log/auth.log* |  grep -v "sshd.\*Failed" |  grep rhost | sed -re 's/.*rhost=([^ ]+).*/\1/' | sort -u will show all login attempts, but I want just who have successed
[20:15] <bashhy> I don't suppose anyone her is running DWM and using a glyph-patched font?
[20:15] <ikonia> docmur: "w" or "last"
[20:23] <BluesKaj> heh, successed ? wow, never heard the past tense of succeed? ...succeeded :-)   WTH are they teaching in schools these days
[20:26] <ioria> BluesKaj, once, in classwork, i wrote successed
[20:35] <karkoon> Hi. Do you know how should I mount a floppy using a terminal?
[20:35] <ioria> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[20:36] <karkoon> ioria: hm. It disappereared from the tray. I didn't know that mount has 2 arguments so that's a step in the right direction.
[20:37] <ioria> karkoon, sometimes, could be fd1440, depends on you syste, check /dev/fdX
[20:38] <Richard_Cavell> Is anyone here an expert on running Ubuntu on Mac?  My EFI on my iMac5,1 doesn't seem to want to boot Ubuntu 16.04 from DVD, either MInt or Cinnamon.  But it will boot Debian.
[20:38] <skaag> other then enabling ip_forward in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ do I need to do anything else to allow routing from one subnet on eth1 via another subnet in eth0?
[20:38] <EriC^^> !mac | Richard_Cavell might be useful
[20:39] <karkoon> ioria: I'm mounting it to /media/karkoon and I don't get any errors and it's back on the tray. And I can umount it. So I think it's all good. Thanks.
[20:39] <ioria> karkoon, good job
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Did you get a hold of a USB drive yet?
[20:42] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: Hi mate.  Yes, I bought a new USB key today.  I'm not sure it's going to make a difference, but if you think it will, I'll co-operate.
[20:43] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Copy all of the files from the DVD to the root of the USB drive, then boot from the USB drive.
[20:43] <Richard_Cavell> Okay I'll give it a go
[20:44] <EriC^^> Richard_Cavell: make sure the usb is fat32
[20:44] <amikrop> I have created a launcher with Exec=sh -c "somedaemon & someprogram". But when I close someprogram (through UI), I can see with ps aux that somedaemon is still running. How can I modify the Exec so somedaemon stops after I close someprogram?
[20:45] <amikrop> maybe Exec=sh -c "somedaemon & someprogram && pkill somedaemon" ?
[20:46] <CaptainQuirk> Hi there !
[20:46] <CaptainQuirk> I bought an hp laptop last week and I was having issues with my installation
[20:46] <CaptainQuirk> colleague of mine advised me to disable secure boot to allow some hardware drivers to work
[20:47] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: what issues?
[20:47] <CaptainQuirk> memory mainly
[20:47] <CaptainQuirk> whole session freezes
[20:47] <CaptainQuirk> nothing else to do than restart
[20:47] <CaptainQuirk> and most of all performance problems
[20:48] <EriC^^> !sysrq | CaptainQuirk
[20:48] <EriC^^> when it freezes you can do that ^
[20:48] <CaptainQuirk> I was expecting more from 8G0 of ram
[20:48] <EriC^^> til you fix it
[20:48] <CaptainQuirk> Eric^^, thank you
[20:48] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: did you try a memtest?
[20:49] <CaptainQuirk> no but now my problem is a different one
[20:50] <CaptainQuirk> I try to disable secure boot from the bios
[20:50] <CaptainQuirk> and enable legacy boot
[20:50] <CaptainQuirk> it messed the whole installation
[20:50] <CaptainQuirk> could not boot anymore
[20:51] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: yeah it's installed in uefi mode
[20:51] <CaptainQuirk> maybe
[20:51] <EriC^^> not maybe :D
[20:51] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: you can either reinstall, or convert it
[20:51] <CaptainQuirk> the thing is, restoring the factory settings didn't work either
[20:51] <CaptainQuirk> I tried reinstalling it
[20:51] <CaptainQuirk> to no avail
[20:51] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: with legacy enabled?
[20:52] <EriC^^> can you boot a live usb now?
[20:52] <CaptainQuirk> yes
[20:53] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:53] <CaptainQuirk> in the grup prompt ?
[20:54] <EriC^^> no the live usb
[20:54] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: I have done as you suggested.  Here is the contents: https://imagebin.ca/v/33ukZO8d7UbF
[20:54] <CaptainQuirk> oh you mean try without installing ?
[20:54] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: yeah
[20:55] <amikrop> Anybody knows when nVidia 364.12 driver is gonna make it to default (main?) repos? Or where can I find that out?
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: That looks like you have a single directory named "ubuntu-16.04..." in the USB that contains everything else. You need to get rid of that directory and just have all of the files in the root of the filesytem.
[20:56] <glym> привет парни
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: So if you look at the contents of the USB drive you should see boot, casper, dists, EFI, etc.
[20:57] <EriC^^> !ru | glym
[20:57] <CaptainQuirk> How can I change my keyboard ?
[20:57] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Does that make sense?
[20:57] <glym> !кг
[20:57] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: Yes it does
[20:57] <glym> !ru
[20:58] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: settings > text entry
[20:58] <EriC^^> glym: /join #ubuntu-ru
[20:58] <glym> ok =)
[20:58] <glym> senks
[20:58] <EriC^^> welcome
[20:59] <glym> how are you? =)
[20:59] <EriC^^> glym: good thanks you?
[21:00] <CaptainQuirk> EriC^^, I cannot reach termbin.com
[21:00] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: do you have an internet connection?
[21:00] <CaptainQuirk> not on the laptop no
[21:01] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: can you get it connected?
[21:02] <glym> eric you from,
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> glym  this is the support channel, use #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat
[21:04] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: Okay, it's done.  Shall I try to reboot?
[21:04] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Yes, holding the option key.
[21:04] <Richard_Cavell> Okay I'm going to disappear for a sec
[21:11] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: Hello, Sir.  The USB stick was not recognized as bootable by my EFI.  (I got "Macintosh HD" and "Recovery" only)
[21:13] <yocs0000> Richard_Cavell: is USB boot in the bios?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Can you post another screenshot of the contents (or the output of "ls /Volumes/*/")?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> yocs0000: This is a Mac, so holding option is the correct way to boot from USB.
[21:14] <Richard_Cavell> yocs0000: I'm using an iMac5,1 and its EFI is not configurable so far as I can tell
[21:15] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Try the official instructions here: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[21:15] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: https://ibin.co/33urBduyGCpi.png
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Well, that is correct. There must be something needed that I didn't think about. Hopefully the official instructions will work.
[21:17] <yocs0000> Jordan_U: OK
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Did you check that the USB drive is Fat32 rather than exfat?
[21:18] <Nicmavr> Is the ubuntu desktop a 64-bit OS download? I'm confused as it doesn't state it anywhere
[21:20] <yocs0000> Nicmavr: yes
[21:21] <Nicmavr> yocs0000, what's the difference between that and the AMD64?
[21:21] <mcphail> Nicmavr: if you need 32 bit see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[21:21] <CaptainQuirk> How can I repair my failed hp laptop installation ?
[21:21] <Nicmavr> mcphail, looking for the 64-bit actually :)
[21:21] <yocs0000> Nicmavr: that is the 64 bit ....
[21:21] <Nicmavr> yocs0000, ok thanks
[21:21] <yocs0000> CaptainQuirk: well, bt giving us some information first?
[21:21] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: My USB stick is FAT32.  unetbootin crashes on my machine - I don't know why.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: AMD came up with the 64 bit x86 architecure that both Intel and AMD use today.
[21:22] <CaptainQuirk> yocs0000, I did but EriC^^ offered help and doesn't seem to be around anymore
[21:22] <CaptainQuirk> so, let's start again
[21:22] <EriC^^> hi
[21:22] <CaptainQuirk> oh you're there sorry
[21:22] <CaptainQuirk> thought you were gone
[21:23] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: i asked you if you could get it connected to the internet
[21:23] <CaptainQuirk> And I am
[21:23] <CaptainQuirk> performed the command you asked
[21:23] <EriC^^> ok, did it give you a link back?
[21:23] <CaptainQuirk> But I don't get any url back from termbin
[21:23] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: The only way forward that I can see is to use unetbootin on a Windows machine at the library to install the Ubuntu .iso.  That's if you think it'll work.
[21:24] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: ok try sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:24] <EriC^^> then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[21:26] <CaptainQuirk> I'll do that ; sorry for the delay, I needed to change my keyboard
[21:28] <CaptainQuirk> pastebin.com/nyPhED0r
[21:28] <sebastian> hi all
[21:29] <EriC^^> hello seb__
[21:29] <Richard_Cavell> Rebooting again...
[21:29] <EriC^^> SebastianFlyte:
[21:30] <EriC^^> sorry guys, mishighlights
[21:30] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: ok, so it's installed in uefi mode right now
[21:31] <EriC^^> do you want to convert it to legacy?
[21:31] <CaptainQuirk> What are the prons and cons ?
[21:32] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: uefi is newer, and it's a tad quicker to boot (maybe 1 sec), also the bootloaders can coexist windows and ubuntu and others on the same efi partition plus you have secureboot if you want it
[21:33] <EriC^^> the cons are some manufacturers use a wrong implementation and make it difficult to boot os other than windows, there are workarounds though
[21:33] <CaptainQuirk> I got warned several times using the first system I installed that some drivers could not work with secure boot enabled
[21:33] <CaptainQuirk> and given the issues I had, I'd like to leave secure boot off for the moment
[21:33] <EriC^^> yeah, you need to disable it for some stuff
[21:34] <EriC^^> you can have secureboot off + uefi
[21:34] <CaptainQuirk> so what should be my next step ?
[21:35] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: try to get it booting with uefi and secureboot off and reinstall the drivers that were giving the warning
[21:35] <CaptainQuirk> for now nothing boots
[21:35] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: ok, type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[21:36] <EriC^^> are you sure uefi is enabled in the bios?
[21:36] <EriC^^> and csm legacy disabled ?
[21:36] <CaptainQuirk> let me restart the laptop
[21:36] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: hold on
[21:36] <EriC^^> install efibootmgr first to check something
[21:36] <CaptainQuirk> too late
[21:36] <CaptainQuirk> sorry
[21:37] <CaptainQuirk> legacy mode is disabled
[21:37] <CaptainQuirk> as is secure boot
[21:37] <CaptainQuirk> still can't boot
[21:37] <CaptainQuirk> I get a firmware recovery screen
[21:38] <EriC^^> ok, press f9 when the pc boots
[21:38] <CaptainQuirk> I can go back to a live session now
[21:38] <EriC^^> did you try f9?
[21:38] <CaptainQuirk> didn't have the time no
[21:38] <CaptainQuirk> what was it for ?
[21:39] <EriC^^> to try to boot the actual install
[21:39] <EriC^^> restart the pc, follow instructions
[21:40] <CaptainQuirk> ok
[21:40] <CaptainQuirk> I'm in the boot manager
[21:41] <CaptainQuirk> I have 4 entries
[21:41] <CaptainQuirk> USB Hard Drive, Os boot Manager (Window Boot Manager), Os boot Manager ubuntu and Boot From EFI file
[21:41] <EriC^^> ok try ubuntu
[21:42] <CaptainQuirk> I got grub
[21:42] <CaptainQuirk> selected ubuntu
[21:42] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: ok
[21:43] <CaptainQuirk> loggin in
[21:43] <javier_> de argentina alguien
[21:43] <EriC^^> !argentina | javier_
[21:44] <CaptainQuirk> what shall I do to make it boot on the ubuntu EFI by default ?
[21:44] <CaptainQuirk> I guess the windows EFI is damaged
[21:44] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v
[21:44] <EriC^^> and pastebin it
[21:45] <CaptainQuirk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23565013
[21:47] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: sudo efibootmgr -o 2001,0002,3001,0001,2002,2004
[21:47] <CaptainQuirk> boot entry 2004 does not exist
[21:48] <EriC^^> remove it from the command
[21:48] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: what hp laptop do you have?
[21:48] <EriC^^> it's pretty amazing it's not trying to force you to boot the windows one
[21:49] <CaptainQuirk> EriC^^, well I think it did
[21:49] <jansen> I can't install nVidia proprietary drivers on 16.04 for GTX970. When I do it either stalls at a black screen or at HDD decrypt screen but with low res and unable to type inn password. The only way I know how to get it up and running again is reinstalling and running on stock nouveau drivers. Guides online tell me to add "nomodeset" to GRUB but I don't see it when the computer starts. I've tried turning off secure boot.
[21:49] <EriC^^> you said it froze many times and you were booting fine though no?
[21:49] <CaptainQuirk> yeah, that was before messing around with the bios
[21:49] <CaptainQuirk> after that, I could not get ubuntu to boot
[21:50] <EriC^^> it's probably the resetting of the bios that switched windows back
[21:50] <CaptainQuirk> probably
[21:51] <CaptainQuirk> what should I do after the last command ,
[21:51] <CaptainQuirk> s/,/?/
[21:52] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: try rebooting
[21:53] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: I installed refind and it recognized the USB stick as Ubuntu, but refused to boot from it.
[21:53] <CaptainQuirk> EriC^^, could not boot on ubuntu without going through the f9 procedure
[21:53] <Richard_Cavell> The only remaining option is to try to boot into debian, download unetbootin, use that to burn the iso to the USB stick.  Do you think that will work when the DVD won't?
[21:54] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: same firmware screen?
[21:54] <CaptainQuirk> yep
[21:54] <wabbits> Hi folks I want to use a bluetooth headset with Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS. What version of pulseaudio is included?
[21:54] <EriC^^> ok try sudo efibootmgr -v again
[21:54] <nacc> !info pulseaudio xenial | wabbits
[21:55] <wabbits> thanks nacc
[21:55] <wabbits> !info bluez xenial
[21:55] <CaptainQuirk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23565045
[21:56] <jukem> Hey all, so this probably isnt the BEST place to ask this, but I don't really know too many people that are into super low-level compiler stuff.  But, what's the point of restoring the stack pointer when a child procedure is done executing?
[21:57] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: try sudo efibootmgr -A -b 0001
[21:57] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: that should disable the windows efi
[21:57] <jukem> I understand that the child procedure stores the value of current stack pointer, then the child executes, but then it restores the stack_pointer to where it was before the child even started.  Why?
[21:57] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: sudo efibootmgr -a -b 0001 enables it back if you need it in the future
[21:57] <CaptainQuirk> ok
[21:58] <CaptainQuirk> in case I need to get the computer back for maintenance or anything
[21:58] <nacc> jukem: 1) probable ask in a programming channel (see !alis); 2) if you didn't restore the sp, where would the caller's sp point?
[21:58] <CaptainQuirk> Eric^^, it's working now !
[21:59] <EriC^^> CaptainQuirk: great
[21:59] <jukem> nacc:  Wouldn't it point to the end of the child procedure?  Cause doesn't the parent procedure just decrement the stack_pointer to after the child procedure anyway after the child is done executing?
[22:00] <nacc> jukem: you're speaking rather abstractly about something concrete -- do you mean for a specific language and compiler?
[22:01] <jukem> If I had to guess, C.  I'm learning this kind of stuff in my compilers class at my university but classes are so impacted its difficult to talk to the professor directly about this kind of stuff.
[22:02] <jukem> Plus the book I'
[22:02] <jukem> m reading was written in the 80's so they refer to stuff like Fortran a lot
[22:03] <jukem> nacc: sorry for the vague-ness, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the big picture concept
[22:03] <nacc> jukem: https://www.cs.umd.edu/class/sum2003/cmsc311/Notes/Mips/stack.html  the section on functions?
[22:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> jukem: your question is language-agnostic.
[22:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's a question about binary code, not source code.
[22:04] <carl-eric> Hi! How can I find out which of the harddisks in my system the "automatic" partition mode in ubiquity wants to target? I'm trying to have an encrypted LVM installation, and since the text mode installer seems to not work properly with UEFI anymore I seem to be stuck with Ubiquity. Its "manual" mode doesn't allow me to set up LVM though. What can I do?
[22:04] <jukem> Well, we've been using some flex and bison.
[22:04] <jukem> the book does mention yes that this procedure varies a lot between languages
[22:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> fundamentally, i believe you're asking how procedures/subroutines are called.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> jukem: Try #compilers
[22:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's probably a good suggestion.
[22:06] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's been a while, but.... are you sure you mean to ask about the stack pointer and not the program counter?
[22:07] <jukem> Jordan_U: Man, there's a channel for everything lol.  It's just a bummer when channels are a barren wasteland.  That's why my first instinct was to hop over here lol, it's always poppin'
[22:07] <jukem> NoImNotNineVolt: Yeah it's definitely the stack pointer
[22:07] <NoImNotNineVolt> the stack pointer is only incremented or decremented when things are pushed/popped to/from the stack
[22:08] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, at a fundamental level, here's how a procedure is called:
[22:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> program counter is pushed to stack. arguments are pushed to stack. program counter is overwritten with procedure address. procedure pops arguments off stack, executes.
[22:09] <mpo42vr> ubuntu-server
[22:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> then it pops the value from the stack and stores to program counter.
[22:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's how it returns.
[22:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> the stack pointer is incremented and decremented as a result of the stack operations only.
[22:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> overwriting the stack pointer would effectively destroy the stack (practically, if not technically).
[22:12] <younder> NoImNotNineVolt, Would that be the execution stack or the data stack..
[22:12] <NoImNotNineVolt> younder: that's now an architecture-specific question.
[22:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> the question as asked implied the existence of only a single stack pointer.
[22:13] <jukem> Well, there's two pointers they mention.  top_sp and top
[22:13] <jukem> I think top_sp is more local and top is the "actual" top of stack
[22:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> what architecture is this?
[22:14] <jukem> here's a screen grab from my book, http://imgur.com/GK39cuv
[22:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> ugh, what is this :P
[22:14] <jukem> Im confused about why the sp needs to be restored.  Cause, from what I understand, the sp is decremented to an address after the child process anyway
[22:15] <jukem> LOL it's a book written in 1986
[22:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, you can do fun things with stacks :P
[22:15] <jukem> Im not askin' for homework help or anything, I just really like this kind of stuff and want to have a deeper understanding
[22:15] <jukem> lol yes indeed
[22:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, what i described is the basic (very, very basic) description of how the simplest of computers is likely to handle procedure calls.
[22:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> the pic16 architecture works that way, if i remember correctly.
[22:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> but pic16 only has one general register and one stack pointer and is generally speaking a very very simply computer :P
[22:17] <Jordan_U> NoImNotNineVolt: jukem: Please move this discussion to another channel, like #compilers or #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> gotcha, sorry.
[22:17] <jukem> Jordan_U: will do.   I was just gettin' on a roll.
[22:17] <jukem> Thanks for knowledge guys :) 'ppreciate ya.
[22:18] <porkstore> anyone know why my chrome / firefox proxy settings don't work
[22:18] <porkstore> sorry i mean just chrome
[22:21] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: Is there any way of explaining why Debian boots just fine on my iMac but Ubuntu and Mint do not?
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: I don't know why that is the case. If the Debian DVD boots via EFI though, then it's not terribly difficult to use Debian's grub to boot Ubuntu's installer.
[22:26] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: Even once it installs, I need it to boot reliably
[22:27] <Richard_Cavell> I might just have to use debian *shrug*
[22:27] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: I expect that booting once installed will be fine, but I can't guarantee that 100%.
[22:30] <Richard_Cavell> Funnily enough I might end up installing Debian and then virtualizing Ubuntu within it...
[22:31] <CaptainQuirk> I'm trying to install the dropbox client on ubuntu 16.04 but I get unmet dependencies
[22:31] <CaptainQuirk> Not the first time I get that kind of issues
[22:32] <Jordan_U> CaptainQuirk: How did you try to install dropbox client? (The way I would recommend would be "sudo apt install nautilus-dropbox" but if you've already started doing something else you may need to undo what you have done first).
[22:33] <CaptainQuirk> I try to download the deb package from https://www.dropbox.com/fr/install-linux
[22:34] <Jordan_U> CaptainQuirk: sudo apt remove dropbox && sudo apt install nautilus-dropbox
[22:38] <CaptainQuirk> Jordan_U, thanks
[22:39] <Jordan_U> CaptainQuirk: You're welcome.
[22:45] <Trev_> why i cant connect to any irc chat? with a PPTP vpn?
[22:47] <KennyG> nnnn
[22:48] <Trev_> anyone know why i cant connect to any irc chat with a PTPP vpn exept website.freenode?
[22:49] <genii> Probably because the networks you are trying to connect to don't allow it
[22:56] <danielcregg> Can't increase volume, in settings above 100% as greyed out. What to do to fix?
[22:59] <jdjjdi> Hi all. What fs could you advise for me? I have 2 gib of ram so it seems I need dynamical swap. Another question is if I can boot from lvm2?
[23:02] <danielcregg> Can't increase volume, in settings above 100% as greyed out. What to do to fix?
[23:02] <Robert_> hy guys
[23:03] <Guest99677> guys told me if i need orginal ubuntu dvd to ask here
[23:03] <danielcregg> Anyone know how to de-install sound and re-install?
[23:03] <Guest99677> guys told me if i need orginal ubuntu dvd to ask here
[23:03] <Guest99677> guys told me if i need orginal ubuntu dvd to ask hereguys told me if i need orginal ubuntu dvd to ask here
[23:03] <jim> jdjjdi, as long as linux can mount the / vol or partition, you can boot with lvm
[23:04] <jim> Guest99677, you don't actually need a dvd full of packages... what are you trying to do?\
[23:04] <jdjjdi> So I don't need an extra boot partition, do I?
[23:05] <jim> I like to have /boot as a separate partition not in lvm, but I don't think you need to do that
[23:06] <squinty> !torrent | Guest99677
[23:06] <lit68> hi, i just installed apache on ubuntu server vm, right now the root user has write access to /var/www/html, how can i give my user 'Niz' access to /var/www/html so i dont have to use the root user to edit it??
[23:06] <jdjjdi> Thank you. What about fs?
[23:07] <squinty> !torrents | Guest99677
[23:07] <jim> it's mostly about what drivers are available to you at boot time... if you have the necessary drivers to mount /, you should be ok
[23:08] <jim> I think people like using ext4 (it's a posix compatible fs, and it's pretty fast)
[23:08] <jdjjdi> Yes, but it can run out of inodes
[23:09] <jim> is there a fs that doesn't do that?
[23:09] <jdjjdi> ntfs has no inodes, btrfs has no inodes
[23:11] <jim> jdjjdi, you should probably rule out ntfs, it's not compatible... however, you can mount ntfs filesystems
[23:11] <jim> btrfs, I don't know how stable it is
[23:12] <jim> I've heard some scary stuff
[23:12] <jdjjdi> it was just en example of fses not making user to preselect number of inodes
[23:12] <jim> -however-, I don't know the exact details
[23:30] <ajaj> Hello, every package I try to install with apt-get gives me a mismatched hash error. Updating and upgrading didnt resolve it, I've tried the most reliable answer I could find online without success, any help much appreciated
[23:32] <Bashing-om> ajaj: Many times it is your mirror site that has not sync'd up . Try and change your mirror and see if the problem persist .
[23:33] <ajaj> Sounds good, I'll try that. Thanks a lot for your help
[23:34] <Bashing-om> ajaj: :) Let is know how it goes . ^ may not be the reason. just a good possibility and needs to be ruled out .
[23:36] <jdjjdi> I'm moving data from ntfs to some linux fs. What should I do if that fs were ext4? Should I select number of inodes for full size or inodes count will grow with the partition size?
[23:38] <jdjjdi> p.s. I'm going to move the data and shrink ntfs and extend the fs.
[23:39] <Bashing-om> jdjjdi: The number of inodes is set when the partition is created for ext4 . You should not have to do anything . Now if it is a whole bunch of little bitty files . Mwy then have to get creative .
[23:42] <jdjjdi> so should i calculate them manually using the full target size of partition and set explicitly?
[23:43] <wedgie> jdjjdi: unless you have an unusual data set you can safely use the defaults
[23:43] <wedgie> unusual meaning, as Bashing-om said, many many small files
[23:44] <Jordan_U> jdjjdi: Select a number appropriate for the full volume size, and how you expect to use that volume.
[23:46] <DjKniteX> I can't for the life of me get the ubuntu software center to open
[23:46] <DjKniteX> it just keeps closing everytime I hopen it
[23:47] <jdjjdi> If I use it for main system, developing and building software, what ratio should I choose?
[23:54] <neon_squirrel> Do you guys know if dconf has an IRC?