=== maclin1 is now known as maclin [07:29] Good morning [07:32] hey pitti [07:32] good morning desktopers [07:33] bonjour seb128 ! [07:34] happy friday! [07:34] how are you? [07:35] seb128: I'm great, thanks! how about yourself? [07:35] looking forward to the weekend [07:35] I'm good, thanks! [07:35] Annett and I will meet StevenK in Nuernberg [07:35] same here ;-) [07:35] do you have plans? [07:35] oh, say hello from me then [07:36] I will! [07:36] and on Sunday I'll fly to $warm_place \o/ [07:36] (Sevilla, for the core sprint) [07:37] 19°C there, that's alright [07:40] hey pitti! re seb128 [07:41] waow, summer/spring soon for pitti :) [07:44] bonjour didrocks ! [07:45] didrocks: yeah, we'll be eating stollen in the sun! [07:45] with brandy ... [07:49] heh, sounds nice :) [07:49] eating stollen in any condition is nice :) [07:52] wwhaatt [07:52] no, it's wrong, you don't eat stollen when it's warm [07:52] it's like mulled wine [07:52] works only when you need to fight the cold weather [08:53] Morning [09:01] morning all [09:01] how do I report a spam user? Getting msgs [09:01] hey andyrock willcooke [09:01] amoin moin [09:01] oh, early Laney! [09:01] hey Laney [09:02] willcooke, unsure about spam, maybe #ubuntu-irc knows? [09:02] thanks seb128 [09:02] do you speak about irc spam? [09:02] or launchpad? [09:02] just googling it now [09:03] irc [09:03] k [09:03] I'm getting dm'd [09:03] it's stopped now [09:03] I think there is an admin channel but don't remember which one [09:04] gah duckduckgo is annoyingly bad for this [09:04] * willcooke reverts to actual google for his googling [09:04] hey seb128 [09:04] how are you? [09:05] good! it's friday & sunny & I've a tennis match tonight [09:05] Morning all [09:05] how are you? [09:06] pretty good [09:06] no sun though [09:06] went to climbing and a new micro pub/bakery last night [09:08] hey Laney davmor2 [09:09] nice! and any plan for the w.e yet? [09:09] sup willcooke [09:09] how was london? [09:09] Was nice to see real people again :) [09:09] was there some event? [09:10] morning willcooke [09:10] seb128: going to a birthday party, probably go to the allotment if it's not raining ... [09:10] ... [09:10] last free weekend of the year :-o [09:10] nah, I wanted to chat to a few people and work with p_opey on creating a snap [09:10] did you make a good one? ;-) [09:10] no [09:11] :-( [09:11] I gave up around 6pm and went for a ber [09:11] beer [09:11] wash out the failure at the pub [09:11] I see [09:11] ha [09:11] good way to deal with it ;-) [09:12] willcooke: well it was popey there was bound to be some failure ;) [09:16] happyaron, Chinese New Year is awesome, having to work Saturday and Sunday, less so :) [09:17] do they have to do that? [09:17] yep [09:18] it's a so called 7-day holidays, but 2 days are swapped from Saturday and Sunday [09:18] Laney, is bug #1626233 something you are looking at? nautilus upstream asked me the status saying that they talk to somebody from Canonical about it before (they didn't remember who though but I assume it was you?) [09:18] bug 1626233 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in nautilus_directory_get_file_list (due to the typeahed ubuntu changes)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626233 [09:18] I've not been following the 3.20 update issues much so I didn't know but I said I would ask ... there we are ;-) [09:18] happyaron, I see, still good to have a week off work! oh, and hey btw ;-) [09:19] seb128: doesn't ring any bells [09:19] k [09:19] it might have been jbicha then [09:20] (they said later they though he was working for Canonical) [09:21] * seb128 tags it as rls-z-incoming [09:23] Laney, csoranio said it might be tricky to update that patch to work properly with the new codebase, we should maybe just drop it and see how it goes with users? [09:23] do you have an opinion on that? [09:25] I don't want to maintain patches like that if I can help it, but people were loud last time [09:25] I'd dig up the contributor and ask if they want to do it [09:25] thanks [09:25] well apparently somebody updated the patch enough that it applies and build, it's just not working/hitting a segfault [09:27] Yes I understand [09:33] Morning Laney seb128 willcooke davmor2 happyaron andyrock [09:34] and a partridge on a pear tree [09:34] hey flexiondotorg [09:35] hey flexiondotorg, how are you? [09:35] morning flexiondotorg [09:35] seb128, All good thanks. [11:04] Trello is down...... nooooooooooooooooo [11:13] topyli is lying, I don't fight wolfes, I might fight for them though [11:13] ...aand wrong channel (: [11:13] :D [11:13] willcooke: it's like the voices of a million developers cried out at once and then were gone [11:14] ha [11:14] they all cried out "yay" [11:15] Tm_T: playing werewolf? [11:25] Trevinho, hi! [11:25] mitya57: hey [11:26] While looking at bug 1635577, I found this line in libindicator which probably hides the old item: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libindicator/trunk.16.10/annotate/head:/tools/indicator-loader.c#L172 [11:26] bug 1635577 in unity (Ubuntu) "memory leak in unity-panel-service" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635577 [11:26] Laney: no, just discussing where we live, ubuntu community is vast (: [11:27] * Trevinho checks [11:27] mitya57: thanks for that debugging work, though! [11:27] And it looks like in https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/libindicator/lp-1045372/+merge/123876 it was changed on purpose from "remove" to "hide". [11:28] So if we change it back to "remove" we need to make sure we don't reintroduce bug 1045372 [11:28] bug 1045372 in libindicator (Ubuntu) "libreoffice unity menu bars greyed out after opening any dialog or switching window" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045372 [12:22] Trevinho, oh, and thanks for adding my MP to your ticket :) [12:30] * Sweet5hark is still amazed by his experience with using LibreOffice online for the first time "in production". [12:30] 20 people concurrently writing call minutes in one doc and it just kept going. [12:47] mitya57: np [12:54] Sweet5hark, like on the uds gobby time? ;-) [12:56] seb128: yeah, our calls are a bit like UDS sessions in that. we used etherpad before, but now tried a fullblown LibreOffice for the first time. [12:56] Sweet5hark, how is it working? there is a libreoffice server side than somebody needs to host I guess? [12:57] seb128: yes, its currently hosted by collabora. === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [12:57] interesting [12:57] do they do free hosting? [12:58] like can anyone use their server? [12:58] seb128: for TDF, yes ;) [12:58] lol, I see [13:01] is it in the browser? [13:01] or the app(s) connect to the server? [13:03] mitya57: sooooo..... Mhmh, well that libindicator thing doesn't seem too wrong to me, unless the indicator actually remove the items at a given point... [13:04] mitya57: in UPS I don't think we do anything special for that, so it might be more related to some lib we depend on... [13:05] Trevinho, so does removing items seem wrong to you? [13:06] mitya57: in the applet you say? [13:06] No matter — in libindicator or in UPS itself. [13:09] mitya57: if removing would cause that libreoffice bug again, I'd prefer not [13:09] but I've not checked the full logic yte [13:11] Trevinho, I would leave the decision to you. In any case I fixed owncloud-client so the UPS part is no longer critical. [13:11] mitya57: ah, however the line you linked to me before (the one doing the hiding), is actually in the indicator-loader... Which is a dummy loader for menus... So an example app [13:11] not the lib itself [13:11] isn' it? [13:12] Oh, maybe. [13:12] mitya57: what's the diff at owncloud side, just to understand? [13:12] Trevinho, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/295376092/owncloud-client_2.2.4+dfsg-2_2.2.4+dfsg-2ubuntu1.diff.gz [13:12] One line changed :) [13:13] Re-registering the icon every 30 seconds was a workaround for some old bug in Qt 5.5. [13:14] Trevinho, but where are the items hidden then? I found only the entry2geometry hash, but I did not fully understand how that works. [13:26] mitya57: that hash table should only have the reference of the entry id... not the entry itself... but it associate every menu "title" (or entry, as we call it) to a location in the screen and in the panel... [13:27] so basically the panel knows where it's painted in unity... This is has to be known for various reasons such as scrubbing, or to know where to place the menu Alt+ [13:29] Trevinho, the only useful thing happening in on_removed_idle() was dropping the removed items from that hash, so I thought that could hide them somehow. [13:29] But if I was wrong, then I can not find the line where they are actually hidden. [13:30] mitya57: I don't see it at this level... I think it might happen on libindicator only... While the library keeps the refence, it doesn't notify it to the actual applet (whatever it is, indicator-applet or ups or... others) [13:30] but this is just a suspect === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [14:53] Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar" [14:53] that's dead right, and we should not try to load it? [14:54] bin/ubiquity-dm: os.environ['GTK_MODULES'] = 'overlay-scrollbar' [14:54] bin/ubiquity-wrapper: os.environ['GTK_MODULES'] += os.pathsep + 'overlay-scrollbar' [14:54] bin/ubiquity-wrapper: os.environ['GTK_MODULES'] = 'overlay-scrollbar' [14:55] is that still used for gtk 2 apps? [14:55] it isnt instealled at all [14:55] ubiquity is gtk3 [14:55] but it is installable from unitverse i thinnk [14:56] i guess the question is if you still want it to work for people that explicitly install it [14:56] (and yeah, i doubt it works at all for gtk3) [14:56] during live-cd installer only? no, there are no apps during ubiquity-only session [14:57] oh, right ... i missed which files you pointed at [14:57] oh, right [14:57] rip it out ;) [15:01] xnox, yeah, that needs to be cleaned out [15:04] seb128, should we perhaps also drop it from the archive ? [15:04] ogra_, we did [15:04] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/overlay-scrollbar/0.2.17.1+15.10.20150604.1-0ubuntu1 [15:05] the source still builds a gtk2 binary which is needed since gtk2 doesn't have such overlay scrollbars, that was only added to gtk3 [15:06] yeah, i cant read what "apt search" prints ... sorry :P [15:27] desrt: hey, do you know if there's a way to prevent the libtool wrapper from the g-ir-scanner output from overriding LD_LIBRARY_PATH? [15:27] uh [15:27] that's sort of its job [15:27] that's how it is able to make the linker find the in-tree versions of the libraries (which is pretty much the only thing libtool is good for) [15:28] but now i have an old system library and it's using that one instead of my locally installed one [15:29] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/V8ZduzJD/ [15:30] i don't really know where /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu is coming from [15:32] sorry, i should've given more context about the /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu problem === JanC is now known as Guest2425 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [18:04] happy weekend! [18:04] oh, yes it's time [18:04] good night all [18:04] Weekend \o/ [18:06] have a good w.e desktopers! [19:02] hello [19:03] are only two ides available now through ubuntu-make? (light table and visual-studio-code) [19:18] pretty sure the android sdk / eclipse is there === ahoneybun_ is now known as ahoneybun