myxo2 | had to regenerate initramfs for some reason, fixed it | 00:09 |
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lotuspsychje | good morning guys | 05:23 |
Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Hey hey .. Welcome to the Zoo . | 05:23 |
lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om crowdy beasts? | 05:24 |
Bashing-om | Yeah ,, tedious fixes with kernels . Them bad boys going behind the package manager's back and breaking the system . | 05:25 |
lotuspsychje | wow | 05:26 |
lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic | 05:26 |
ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.51.54 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB | 05:26 |
myxo2 | howdy all | 06:22 |
myxo2 | omg, elonus isn't here somehow, i have to type his whole name | 06:23 |
myxo2 | it must be the day of the vikings in norway or something, i don't know any of their holidays.. | 06:23 |
myxo2 | i started LFS yesterday, has anyone else tried it? | 06:23 |
ducasse | hi all | 07:19 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: o/ . Welcome to a wild and crazy day . Be ready for a wild ride . | 07:33 |
ducasse | oh, is it that bad? | 07:34 |
myxo2 | ahaha | 07:34 |
myxo2 | howdy friends | 07:34 |
ducasse | \o | 07:34 |
myxo2 | what are we debugging today?! | 07:35 |
ducasse | nothing yet, i'm still waking up :) | 07:35 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Uh Huh .. Never cam tell what the poster is going to do . But the troll activity is nill :) | 07:35 |
myxo2 | every day should start with a critical error! | 07:35 |
myxo2 | jk. my system has been seriously stable for months now. | 07:36 |
myxo2 | i made the mistake of starting a peter frampton live in concert video | 07:39 |
myxo2 | now i'm stuck watching for 30 minutes for one song | 07:39 |
myxo2 | first album i bought as a teenager in like.. 1995? | 07:39 |
myxo2 | arch could user some peter frampton? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrFKG-N7Log | 07:43 |
lordievader | Good morning. | 08:07 |
\9 | myxo2: LFS as in linux from scratch? i built that a few times many years ago | 08:15 |
\9 | taught me a whole lot about how linux works | 08:16 |
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myxo2 | yep \9, i'm following it now | 08:17 |
\9 | i think it was also LFS which taught me to use the -v switch everywhere (i have all the basic utilities aliased to use that switch along with a few others) | 08:19 |
\9 | nowadays if i run a command and it doesn't print exactly what it did i'll go all "wow what on earth just happened" | 08:19 |
myxo2 | wish i could figure out why filelight has become the default for "open containing folder" in my qbittorrent instead of nemo.. | 08:20 |
myxo2 | filelight is useful but really annoying when that happens | 08:20 |
\9 | i still haven't figured out how to alias things for sudo | 08:21 |
\9 | sudo mkdir blah doesn't print anything and it annoys me | 08:21 |
myxo2 | how long did lfs take you total? | 08:22 |
myxo2 | and did you end up going the route of making a custom linux distro with your newfound info? | 08:22 |
\9 | several days i think.. but i had quite the low-end pc | 08:22 |
\9 | no i didn't go to make a custom linux distro.. the idea crossed my mind but that would've been too much effort for no real gain :P | 08:23 |
\9 | http://askubuntu.com/a/22043 welllp | 08:24 |
\9 | that solves that ages-old problem in 2 minutes | 08:24 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Cat showing you how well she types ? | 08:39 |
ducasse | Bashing-om: isp having problems, link bounces up and down | 08:40 |
ducasse | _really_ annoying :( | 08:40 |
Bashing-om | ducasse: Yuk, think I would rather deal with the cat . | 08:41 |
ducasse | Bashing-om: yup. i know they've been doing some upgrades, that's probably the cause. | 08:42 |
ducasse | on the plus side they can soon offer higher speeds :) | 08:43 |
Bashing-om | Yup .. My isp did same .. speed now is unreal as what was with - dare I say dialup ? - | 08:46 |
ducasse | their plan is to offer up to 10gbps, which i kinda like :) | 08:48 |
Bashing-om | Mine is going fiber .. and 30gbps .. but to be truthful .. what I do on the 'net .. I can not tell the difference @ lower speeds anyway . | 08:53 |
JanC | metered or not? | 08:54 |
ducasse | unmetered here, our local isps don't seem to have taken an interest in metering. | 08:56 |
JanC | mine did, recently :-( | 08:58 |
JanC | time to move to another one, I guess | 08:58 |
Bashing-om | Metered here, but the cap is fairly high .. we have not even come close with the whole family (6) active all the time . | 08:59 |
JanC | that also depends on what you do, obviously | 08:59 |
JanC | mine set a limit at 500GB, after which they downgrade the speed severely | 09:00 |
ducasse | that really sucks :( | 09:01 |
ducasse | i can't recall hearing about any norwegian isp doing metering, but i might be wrong. | 09:02 |
JanC | time to upgrade to another company, I guess :) | 09:02 |
JanC | here most have done so since forever | 09:02 |
JanC | the one I use now was one of a couple that didn't | 09:02 |
Bashing-om | I gonna call it a end-of-session ; Nighty nite good folks . | 09:07 |
JanC | ducasse: it really depends on how the national market grew over time, I guess, and maybe how the national government/regulator works | 09:07 |
JanC | a lot of ISPs here are metered, except for their own streaming/TV/etc. services | 09:08 |
JanC | which you have to pay extra for | 09:09 |
ducasse | makes sense. i know the regulators here are typically strict, so the isps might run into trouble with it. | 09:09 |
JanC | so it's really a problem of net neutrality here IMNSHO | 09:09 |
ducasse | absolutely, they can force you to use their products. that should not be legal. | 09:10 |
JanC | at some times the regulator has been calling things out, but they are practically toothless :-( | 09:11 |
ducasse | :( luckily they aren't here. telecoms etc are kept on a tight leash. | 09:12 |
JanC | any sanctions have to come from the ministry of telecommunications, so the regulator can only suggest them | 09:12 |
ducasse | doesn't that sort of defeat the point of having regulators? | 09:13 |
JanC | right | 09:13 |
JanC | also, regulators can't force unmetered, I guess | 09:14 |
JanC | most people probably never hit the metered barriers | 09:15 |
ducasse | wait for 4k streaming to get popular... | 09:16 |
JanC | oh, but they will offer that on their own | 09:16 |
ducasse | right, in the service that is 'exempt'... | 09:17 |
ducasse | that's dirty. | 09:17 |
JanC | one of them even offers Netflix as a service like that | 09:18 |
ducasse | 10:18 <lenswipee> ikonia, package manager is for noobs. i use terminal and sudo | 09:19 |
ducasse | dear lord. | 09:19 |
JanC | but if you would ever prefer another streaming service... | 09:19 |
OerHeks | hmm docker http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-and-docker-partner-to-distribute-docker-releases-as-snaps-on-ubuntu-510665.shtml | 09:21 |
lordievader | ducasse: Nice quote | 09:22 |
JanC | mostly for commercial docker, I think? | 09:23 |
OerHeks | jups, paid i think | 09:23 |
ducasse | lordievader: what _is_ it with these people? | 09:23 |
lordievader | ducasse: Well clearly he ain't a noob :P | 09:25 |
ducasse | lol | 09:25 |
lordievader | Must be a pure genenious! | 09:25 |
ducasse | he got kicked soon after, i'm sure he could solve his problem himself either way :) | 09:26 |
reconnect | good morning | 11:13 |
lordievader | o/ | 11:15 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:39 |
pauljw | hey BluesKaj | 13:40 |
pauljw | Hi everyone | 13:40 |
BluesKaj | hey again pauljw :-) | 13:40 |
pauljw | :D | 13:40 |
lordievader | o/ | 13:40 |
pauljw | hi lordievader | 13:43 |
lordievader | Hey pauljw | 13:44 |
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Bashing-om | Busy in the main channel, huh ? .. lacking 35 to be 1000 users ! | 21:03 |
\9 | 2000, you mean? | 21:04 |
\9 | it indeed is a lot | 21:04 |
Bashing-om | \9: Opps yeah .,. 2000 ! A lot going on while I snoozed ? | 21:07 |
\9 | i haven't found it any more active than usual | 21:07 |
ducasse | \o Bashing-om | 21:07 |
\9 | we had some kind of guy who thought he was above package managers because he was so pro at using terminal (and failed to use root to do anything) | 21:08 |
Bashing-om | well, then I just relax and enjoy the ride - see what transpires :) | 21:08 |
ducasse | oh, he was back today? :) | 21:08 |
\9 | no | 21:08 |
\9 | would've been too amusing if he was | 21:08 |
ducasse | me mixing today and yesterday, sorry. it's been busy here :) | 21:09 |
ducasse | 'too l33t for apt' :) | 21:09 |
\9 | hehe | 21:09 |
\9 | speaking of mixing today and yesterday, i'm gonna call it a night before today becomes yesterday | 21:11 |
\9 | cyas | 21:12 |
myxo2 | tar xvf is extract, verbosely, but can't remember what f means | 21:37 |
myxo2 | and searching the man page is impossible, looked over it 10x now | 21:38 |
myxo2 | file? | 21:38 |
daftykins | specify file yes | 21:38 |
myxo2 | wait so would tar xv even do anything? | 21:38 |
myxo2 | because you aren't giving it a file | 21:38 |
daftykins | man pages for more :P | 21:38 |
myxo2 | why do we need to specify f | 21:39 |
daftykins | why don't you try it yourself and report back (: | 21:39 |
myxo2 | it literally says, "missing f option?" | 21:39 |
myxo2 | if f is so important, why isn't it implicit, that's my confusion | 21:40 |
daftykins | *shrug* not something i'm going to lose sleep over | 21:40 |
ducasse | myxo2: no f means stdin/stdout, iirc | 21:42 |
daftykins | not according to the man page chief | 21:42 |
ducasse | \o daftykins | 21:42 |
daftykins | heya :> | 21:42 |
myxo2 | oh haha i just realized i was asking my Q's in the wrong irc | 21:43 |
myxo2 | your answers make more sense now | 21:43 |
myxo2 | i thought i was in a diff distro talk lol | 21:44 |
daftykins | myxo2: i'd say you need more help than from IRC if you can't find '-f' in an alphabetical man page | 21:44 |
myxo2 | i found -f, but tar wasn't using - commands, it had no - at all | 21:44 |
myxo2 | -f and f aren't always equivalent depending on the command and i wasn't sure | 21:45 |
daftykins | it's pretty common not to include a hyphen | 21:45 |
myxo2 | no matter it's resolved | 21:46 |
daftykins | mmhmm | 21:46 |
daftykins | so what was the real channel? | 21:46 |
myxo2 | i plead the fif | 21:47 |
myxo2 | i recently learned about distro wars | 21:47 |
myxo2 | i don't play that game haha | 21:47 |
myxo2 | i made the mistake of suggesting the wrong distro on reddit the other day and got flamed, then my post crossposted to linuxcirclejerk and other linux meme subs | 21:47 |
daftykins | well you're on the internet, not in the US - so you don't get to use that | 21:47 |
myxo2 | in the end it was a good thing, because those subs are hilarious | 21:47 |
myxo2 | that's true, any my vpn is canadian, should i end my queries with 'eh'? | 21:48 |
myxo2 | s/any/and | 21:48 |
daftykins | people where i'm from do that too | 21:48 |
myxo2 | i'm actually building an LFS system at the moment | 21:48 |
daftykins | might even have been locals that travelled and became Canadian! | 21:49 |
daftykins | uh huh | 21:49 |
myxo2 | so i'm distro-less, sp00ky, maybe fedora i think? since that's a recommended base? not to that step yet | 21:49 |
daftykins | doesn't sound very 'from scratch' to me if you use a base ;D | 21:49 |
myxo2 | well i guess i could go mine my own silicon and copper, but i don't like using gentoo | 21:50 |
daftykins | i'm going to do the IRC equivalent of smile, nod and walk slowly backwards out of the door now | 21:50 |
myxo2 | ;) | 21:50 |
daftykins | spinning gestures with my finger around my ear may also accompany the above | 21:51 |
vortex__ | hi | 23:13 |
vortex__ | hi Cuber | 23:14 |
vortex__ | Cyber | 23:14 |
CyberCyborg | hello | 23:14 |
vortex__ | still peple dont talk | 23:14 |
CyberCyborg | im going to join off-topic | 23:15 |
vortex__ | okay | 23:15 |
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