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diploMorning all08:26
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:35
imexilI just got the message on the feedback channel on telegram. Problem is that http://ubuntupodcast.org/telegram/ does not work when you only use web.telegram.org Any other way to join that channel?08:46
diploTelegram Desktop ?08:58
davmor2Morning all09:05
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Bartender Appreciation Day! 🍺 🍻09:35
diploAnyone used Sucuri.net before in their workplace or for customers?09:36
davmor2JamesTait: nice friday song for the bartenders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCkmIyC6v0009:39
dogmatic69_Anyone able to help with some strange networking issue. I am connected to work VPN and need to access some specific IP in the browser but it wont work. I can wget it though10:11
dogmatic69_and I 100% have the proxy configured in both10:11
dogmatic69_also traceroute does not show anything, just a load of lines of stars10:11
dogmatic69_:(10:27
foobarryip route command10:30
foobarrycheck your routes10:30
foobarrysome vpns publish certain routes that you can access, rather than all all -> VPN10:31
davmor2dogmatic69_: check if compression is enabled on the vpn and if it is make sure it is enabled on you machine too it is a simple checkbox to over look10:43
BigRedSdogmatic69_: you're using both a VPN and a proxy? Is the IP that you can't connect the proxy?10:52
foobarrygot a supposedly dimmable LED bulb and it flickers like a strobe10:56
foobarryprevious one didn't do that!10:56
dogmatic69_BigRedS: I just figured it out. had different "no_proxy" settings for cli and ui :/11:05
dogmatic69_foobarry: sounds like your dimmable is using PWM, slowly11:06
foobarrypwm?11:07
dogmatic69_pulse width modulation, instead of lowering the power amount you simply turn it on and off at different intervals to get the same effect11:08
dogmatic69_eg if its only on 1/2 the time it would be 1/2 as bright, but if the pulses are too long it will look like its flashing11:09
dogmatic69_too long, being slower than what your eye can detect11:09
foobarrythis is massive strobing11:10
foobarryhttps://goo.gl/photos/WhNR9H5vjMH26wto911:11
foobarrymuch worse even that can be recorded on that clip.11:11
foobarrynot a bit of flicker, but actual strobing11:12
dogmatic69_yep, it could be a dead capacitor11:12
foobarrygot 2 of them brand new. both the same11:12
foobarryits on a dimmer switch. i bet its fine on a regaulr switch11:12
dogmatic69_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation#Voltage_regulation11:12
dogmatic69_oh, you need special ones for a dimmer11:12
foobarrythese are suppsed to be!11:12
dogmatic69_::O11:13
foobarryah, balls maybe i got the wrong one11:13
dogmatic69_:)11:13
foobarry Beam Angle: 140°, Warm Up Time: Instant, Dimmable: No, 5 Year Warranty11:14
foobarryargggh11:14
dogmatic69_that will do it11:14
foobarryi was looking at a whole page of dimmable and managed to make a mistake11:14
dwatkinscould be worse - you could have ordered the wrong 8 TB external disk array (Thunderbolt instead of USB)11:19
foobarryoh11:19
foobarryalso..11:21
foobarryhttp://imgur.com/a/6pQ6b11:21
foobarryamazon claimed it was with sam at number 51, ten doors down11:21
dwatkinsyeah, we get that a lot as we have a porch11:27
foobarryit's not even tucked away11:28
SebthreeBQM10HDgdgdgdg11:34
SebthreeBQM10HDdss11:34
davmor2SebthreeBQM10HD: seriously get the cat off your keyboard11:37
SebthreeBQM10HDthat was me :D, no cat here11:37
SebthreeBQM10HDgot dogs though11:37
dogmatic69_foobarry: took me a while to spot that, hidden behind the pot :/12:01
foobarryparticularly as we have bushes and nooks and crannies12:02
zmoylan-pibut thankfully no crevices... :-P12:05
diddledananyone on talktalk broadband? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-3816745312:42
DJonesdiddledan: Thankfully not, must admit I wouldn't touch talktalk with a 10 foot bargepole13:15
diddledanme either13:15
zmoylan-piwhat about an eu approved 4m one? :-)13:16
DJonesI don;t think I've ever heard anybody say something good about talktalk13:16
DJonesI'm with Sky, they get a lot of complaints, but the service I've had has always been good13:17
zmoylan-piin ireland i use tesco mobile and it's considered bottom of the barrel but actually provides one of the best services13:17
zmoylan-piit's only the tesco name that gets it a bad name as far as i can see13:19
dwatkinsI'm with Three in the UK, the coversage is significantly better than Vodafone when I'm on the train around Glasgow and Edinburgh. Can't even stay on a call with Vodafone sometimes.13:38
=== DanielLlewellyn[ is now known as diddledan__
awilkinsMy mum has TalkTalk as her ISP14:07
awilkinsIt's pants.14:07
foobarryi have TT14:07
foobarryi have that router14:07
awilkinsTheir router is a Huwaei piece-of-poop14:07
foobarrymaybe*14:07
diddledan:-(14:07
foobarryD-Link DSL-378014:08
awilkinsHuwaei HG53314:08
awilkinsI presume by default that it runs all kinds of  Evilware14:08
foobarryi've had dodgy internet this week14:08
foobarrykept losing wifi14:08
* awilkins is on Virginmedia with the "Superhub" firmly in "Stupid mode" and a separate Asus router inside14:09
diddledanawilkins: I used to do that when I was with virgin - it's annoying that the first thing they do if you phone them for support about broken net is "your router is in modem mode. I fixed that for you."14:10
foobarryi had their huawei picture frame one for a while14:10
* zmoylan-pi laughs at these configurations and crosses fingers that my landlords wifi ap stays up over crimbo so my ap that extends it will keep working14:10
* zmoylan-pi makes note to make sure i have credit for my tescomobile mifi just in case...14:12
diddledanzmoylan-pi: if you were in the UK your landlord would now have to record every site you visit :-p14:12
zmoylan-piwell... i would be the one handling the log so i'm ok with that :-P14:13
diddledanlol14:13
diddledanyou get freebie wifi because you're the admin?14:13
diddledan"sure I can install your internet... *backdoors it*"14:13
zmoylan-pii think theirs a politican nearby so i can use theirs for all the nasty stuff... 8bit cat videos and the like :-P14:14
diddledanerhmagherd, you watch nyancat you pervert?!14:14
awilkinsMy Asus is running the updated stock firmware14:14
awilkinsI had OpenWRT on it for ages, but it uses some filthy Broadcom trick to NAT packets quickly and OpenWRT doesn't have the kernel support for it14:15
* brobostigon could have abit of fun with https://www.usbkill.com/usb-killer/8-usb-killer.html :)14:15
awilkinsBut the stock firmware is surprisingly good, even has SSH14:15
diddledanyeah some cheaper routers use a binary blob to access hardware-level nat14:16
awilkinsBefore that I had a Buffalo for aaaaages but it literally wasn't fast enough to keep up with my connection when VM upgraded it14:16
awilkinsSame for the stock firmware, changed to it when they went to 150Mbit/s and OpenWRT was petering out around 80Mbit/s14:17
diddledanI remember running a netgear prosafe router ages ago that was crippled to not be able to go faster than 11Mbit14:17
awilkinsThe wifi is a lot faster and more reliable too. Sad really. I do prefer open where possible.14:17
diddledant'was this jobbie: https://www.netgear.com/support/product/FVS124G.aspx?cid=wmt_netgear_organic14:18
diddledanI figured if it has dual wan ports then it surely can go fast14:18
diddledanbut nope, 11Mbit/s even when using both WANs simultaneously14:18
awilkinsYuk14:19
awilkinsYou think with a name like "Firewall 25" it would do at least 25Mbit/s aggregate14:19
foobarryi don't get ads with teh spotify web player. is that adblock doing that?14:45
foobarrysome other ppl on the web saying the same thing, but its not the adblocker doing it14:56
diddledanwat: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/3818584615:37
foobarryyeah15:39
=== layke is now known as Guest47456
diddledanhttps://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo17:20
DJonesdiddledan: Retire at the top when you know you;ll never do it again :)17:29
diddledaninfinite loop: http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2016/11/30/Google-Home-and-Amazon-Echo-have-conversation-in-infinite-loop/2521480532013/21:02
daftykinsXD21:03
zmoylan-piset their ring tone and you could trigger it when they leave their phone down at home... :-)21:05
zmoylan-pii really must make one with 'ok google, search for my little pony' and start installing it on peoples phone21:07

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