[08:26] <diplo> Morning all
[08:35] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:46] <imexil> I just got the message on the feedback channel on telegram. Problem is that http://ubuntupodcast.org/telegram/ does not work when you only use web.telegram.org Any other way to join that channel?
[08:58] <diplo> Telegram Desktop ?
[09:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Bartender Appreciation Day! 🍺 🍻
[09:36] <diplo> Anyone used Sucuri.net before in their workplace or for customers?
[09:39] <davmor2> JamesTait: nice friday song for the bartenders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCkmIyC6v00
[10:11] <dogmatic69_> Anyone able to help with some strange networking issue. I am connected to work VPN and need to access some specific IP in the browser but it wont work. I can wget it though
[10:11] <dogmatic69_> and I 100% have the proxy configured in both
[10:11] <dogmatic69_> also traceroute does not show anything, just a load of lines of stars
[10:27] <dogmatic69_> :(
[10:30] <foobarry> ip route command
[10:30] <foobarry> check your routes
[10:31] <foobarry> some vpns publish certain routes that you can access, rather than all all -> VPN
[10:43] <davmor2> dogmatic69_: check if compression is enabled on the vpn and if it is make sure it is enabled on you machine too it is a simple checkbox to over look
[10:52] <BigRedS> dogmatic69_: you're using both a VPN and a proxy? Is the IP that you can't connect the proxy?
[10:56] <foobarry> got a supposedly dimmable LED bulb and it flickers like a strobe
[10:56] <foobarry> previous one didn't do that!
[11:05] <dogmatic69_> BigRedS: I just figured it out. had different "no_proxy" settings for cli and ui :/
[11:06] <dogmatic69_> foobarry: sounds like your dimmable is using PWM, slowly
[11:07] <foobarry> pwm?
[11:08] <dogmatic69_> pulse width modulation, instead of lowering the power amount you simply turn it on and off at different intervals to get the same effect
[11:09] <dogmatic69_> eg if its only on 1/2 the time it would be 1/2 as bright, but if the pulses are too long it will look like its flashing
[11:09] <dogmatic69_> too long, being slower than what your eye can detect
[11:10] <foobarry> this is massive strobing
[11:11] <foobarry> https://goo.gl/photos/WhNR9H5vjMH26wto9
[11:11] <foobarry> much worse even that can be recorded on that clip.
[11:12] <foobarry> not a bit of flicker, but actual strobing
[11:12] <dogmatic69_> yep, it could be a dead capacitor
[11:12] <foobarry> got 2 of them brand new. both the same
[11:12] <foobarry> its on a dimmer switch. i bet its fine on a regaulr switch
[11:12] <dogmatic69_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation#Voltage_regulation
[11:12] <dogmatic69_> oh, you need special ones for a dimmer
[11:12] <foobarry> these are suppsed to be!
[11:13] <dogmatic69_> ::O
[11:13] <foobarry> ah, balls maybe i got the wrong one
[11:13] <dogmatic69_> :)
[11:14] <foobarry>  Beam Angle: 140°, Warm Up Time: Instant, Dimmable: No, 5 Year Warranty
[11:14] <foobarry> argggh
[11:14] <dogmatic69_> that will do it
[11:14] <foobarry> i was looking at a whole page of dimmable and managed to make a mistake
[11:19] <dwatkins> could be worse - you could have ordered the wrong 8 TB external disk array (Thunderbolt instead of USB)
[11:19] <foobarry> oh
[11:21] <foobarry> also..
[11:21] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/6pQ6b
[11:21] <foobarry> amazon claimed it was with sam at number 51, ten doors down
[11:27] <dwatkins> yeah, we get that a lot as we have a porch
[11:28] <foobarry> it's not even tucked away
[11:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> gdgdgdg
[11:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> dss
[11:37] <davmor2> SebthreeBQM10HD: seriously get the cat off your keyboard
[11:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that was me :D, no cat here
[11:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> got dogs though
[12:01] <dogmatic69_> foobarry: took me a while to spot that, hidden behind the pot :/
[12:02] <foobarry> particularly as we have bushes and nooks and crannies
[12:05] <zmoylan-pi> but thankfully no crevices... :-P
[12:42] <diddledan> anyone on talktalk broadband? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38167453
[13:15] <DJones> diddledan: Thankfully not, must admit I wouldn't touch talktalk with a 10 foot bargepole
[13:15] <diddledan> me either
[13:16] <zmoylan-pi> what about an eu approved 4m one? :-)
[13:16] <DJones> I don;t think I've ever heard anybody say something good about talktalk
[13:17] <DJones> I'm with Sky, they get a lot of complaints, but the service I've had has always been good
[13:17] <zmoylan-pi> in ireland i use tesco mobile and it's considered bottom of the barrel but actually provides one of the best services
[13:19] <zmoylan-pi> it's only the tesco name that gets it a bad name as far as i can see
[13:38] <dwatkins> I'm with Three in the UK, the coversage is significantly better than Vodafone when I'm on the train around Glasgow and Edinburgh. Can't even stay on a call with Vodafone sometimes.
[14:07] <awilkins> My mum has TalkTalk as her ISP
[14:07] <awilkins> It's pants.
[14:07] <foobarry> i have TT
[14:07] <foobarry> i have that router
[14:07] <awilkins> Their router is a Huwaei piece-of-poop
[14:07] <foobarry> maybe*
[14:07] <diddledan> :-(
[14:08] <foobarry> D-Link DSL-3780
[14:08] <awilkins> Huwaei HG533
[14:08] <awilkins> I presume by default that it runs all kinds of  Evilware
[14:08] <foobarry> i've had dodgy internet this week
[14:08] <foobarry> kept losing wifi
[14:09]  * awilkins is on Virginmedia with the "Superhub" firmly in "Stupid mode" and a separate Asus router inside
[14:10] <diddledan> awilkins: I used to do that when I was with virgin - it's annoying that the first thing they do if you phone them for support about broken net is "your router is in modem mode. I fixed that for you."
[14:10] <foobarry> i had their huawei picture frame one for a while
[14:10]  * zmoylan-pi laughs at these configurations and crosses fingers that my landlords wifi ap stays up over crimbo so my ap that extends it will keep working
[14:12]  * zmoylan-pi makes note to make sure i have credit for my tescomobile mifi just in case...
[14:12] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: if you were in the UK your landlord would now have to record every site you visit :-p
[14:13] <zmoylan-pi> well... i would be the one handling the log so i'm ok with that :-P
[14:13] <diddledan> lol
[14:13] <diddledan> you get freebie wifi because you're the admin?
[14:13] <diddledan> "sure I can install your internet... *backdoors it*"
[14:14] <zmoylan-pi> i think theirs a politican nearby so i can use theirs for all the nasty stuff... 8bit cat videos and the like :-P
[14:14] <diddledan> erhmagherd, you watch nyancat you pervert?!
[14:14] <awilkins> My Asus is running the updated stock firmware
[14:15] <awilkins> I had OpenWRT on it for ages, but it uses some filthy Broadcom trick to NAT packets quickly and OpenWRT doesn't have the kernel support for it
[14:15]  * brobostigon could have abit of fun with https://www.usbkill.com/usb-killer/8-usb-killer.html :)
[14:15] <awilkins> But the stock firmware is surprisingly good, even has SSH
[14:16] <diddledan> yeah some cheaper routers use a binary blob to access hardware-level nat
[14:16] <awilkins> Before that I had a Buffalo for aaaaages but it literally wasn't fast enough to keep up with my connection when VM upgraded it
[14:17] <awilkins> Same for the stock firmware, changed to it when they went to 150Mbit/s and OpenWRT was petering out around 80Mbit/s
[14:17] <diddledan> I remember running a netgear prosafe router ages ago that was crippled to not be able to go faster than 11Mbit
[14:17] <awilkins> The wifi is a lot faster and more reliable too. Sad really. I do prefer open where possible.
[14:18] <diddledan> t'was this jobbie: https://www.netgear.com/support/product/FVS124G.aspx?cid=wmt_netgear_organic
[14:18] <diddledan> I figured if it has dual wan ports then it surely can go fast
[14:18] <diddledan> but nope, 11Mbit/s even when using both WANs simultaneously
[14:19] <awilkins> Yuk
[14:19] <awilkins> You think with a name like "Firewall 25" it would do at least 25Mbit/s aggregate
[14:45] <foobarry> i don't get ads with teh spotify web player. is that adblock doing that?
[14:56] <foobarry> some other ppl on the web saying the same thing, but its not the adblocker doing it
[15:37] <diddledan> wat: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38185846
[15:39] <foobarry> yeah
[17:20] <diddledan> https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo
[17:29] <DJones> diddledan: Retire at the top when you know you;ll never do it again :)
[21:02] <diddledan> infinite loop: http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2016/11/30/Google-Home-and-Amazon-Echo-have-conversation-in-infinite-loop/2521480532013/
[21:03] <daftykins> XD
[21:05] <zmoylan-pi> set their ring tone and you could trigger it when they leave their phone down at home... :-)
[21:07] <zmoylan-pi> i really must make one with 'ok google, search for my little pony' and start installing it on peoples phone