[00:00] <Lucuuu> Hello guys! I have one problem. When i try to do "sudo apt-get upgrade libqt5*" to upgrade it from 5.5.1 to 5.7 it says that i have newest version... How to upgrade it then?
[00:01] <Lucuuu> Ubuntu 16.04 :)
[00:04] <Dr-008> anyone know how to get all device names , ip adresses and mac adresses from /proc/net or /proc/sys/net/ ? can figure out a scrupt that consistantly gets the right ip via ifconfig
[00:04] <Dr-008> *i cant figure out
[00:05] <jdjjdi> thank to everyone. Bue.
[00:08] <ajaj> Bashing-om - thanks again, it was a problem with the mirror, choosing another one solved my mismatched hash problem
[00:09] <Bashing-om> ajaj: Good deal .
[00:10] <nacc> Lucuuu: why do yu think 5.7 is available in xenial?
[00:10] <nacc> !info libqt5script5 xenial | Lucuuu
[00:11] <Lucuuu> nacc: qt-opensource-linux-x64-5.7.0.run - i just downloaded it
[00:11] <nacc> Lucuuu: 5.7 isn't even available in 17.04 yet
[00:11] <nacc> Lucuuu: that's an upstream version...
[00:11] <nacc> !latest | Lucuuu
[00:11] <Lucuuu> Well, i just need to download it, is there a way to do it?
[00:11] <nacc> Lucuuu: what do you mean?
[00:12] <Lucuuu> OBS gives me massive amount of errors and people told me to upgrade libqt5* to 5.7
[00:13] <nacc> Lucuuu: OBS?
[00:13] <Lucuuu> nacc: Open Broadcaster Software, program to lifestream to twitch
[00:13] <nacc> Lucuuu: is that an Ubuntu package?
[00:13] <Lucuuu> nacc: yes, in 0.16.6 version
[00:13] <Lucuuu> (latest)
[00:14] <nacc> Lucuuu: pacakgename?
[00:14] <Lucuuu> nacc: im getting "attacked" by this errors: glCopyImageSubData failed, glGetError returned 0x502 error: device_copy_texture (GL) failed error: glCopyImageSubData failed
[00:14] <Lucuuu> people told me to upgrade libqt5*
[00:14] <Lucuuu> https://github.com/jp9000/obs-studio/
[00:15] <nacc> Lucuuu: is obs in Ubuntu?
[00:15] <Lucuuu> nacc: yes, i use it right now, but it freezes after sometime (30 secs, 4 minutes, 3 hours, random)
[00:15] <nacc> !info obs-studio xenial
[00:15] <nacc> Lucuuu: it's in yakkety and zesty, but *not* xenial
[00:16] <nacc> Lucuuu: can't really help with unsupported versions :/
[00:16] <nacc> Lucuuu: and neither of those have 0.16.6
[00:16] <Lucuuu> nacc: You dont have to help me with OBS, i want 5.7 version of libqt5*
[00:17] <nacc> Lucuuu: and I'm telling you that it's not available in ubuntu
[00:17] <nacc> Lucuuu: esp. not on 16.04
[00:17] <Lucuuu> nacc: grr, i dont want to go back to windows ;<
[00:17] <nacc> Lucuuu: i'm not sure what the one has to do with the other
[00:18] <Lucuuu> nacc:  i need obs, its not working on linux and ... well, there's no fix .. so windows is my last hope right now
[00:18] <nacc> Lucuuu: you're trying to either use a) packages built for a different distribution or b) from source builds, both of which are unsupported here
[00:18] <nacc> Lucuuu: and the latter requires some effort
[00:19] <Lucuuu> nacc:  Well, as you see, you cant help me with any of this.. so what should i do now, if obs people dont know how to fix my error?
[00:19] <Kyoku> is there a utility similar to top for monitoring what files are being accessed?
[00:20] <nacc> Lucuuu: you could try to build a newer qt5 from source, but you're off in the weeds at this point
[00:21] <nacc> Lucuuu: can't you run 16.10 and use the pacakged version?
[00:21] <neon_squirrel> I feel like I'm back at work lol. "Why doesn't this work?" "Are you running an enterprise version of Windows? "Yes." The hardware isn't at fault. Reload your image. Enterprise versions are unsupported. "But it's not the image! This works on 3,000 other systems."
[00:21] <nacc> !who | neon_squirrel
[00:21] <Lucuuu> nacc:  tell me how to update my 16.04 to 16.10 and i will do it
[00:22] <ShellCoder> I need help
[00:22] <nacc> Lucuuu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes -- but if you've already tried doing things to your 16.04, it might need undoing
[00:22] <nacc> !help | ShellCoder
[00:23] <nacc> Lucuuu: note that 16.10 is only supported for 9 months,so you'll need to keep upgrading through to 18.04 as the releases come out, before your current release goes EOL (which will be the next LTS)
[00:23] <Lucuuu> nacc: upgrading changes files etc/
[00:23] <nacc> Lucuuu: of course
[00:24] <Lucuuu> nacc: im talking about private files, game setting, anything other then system itself
[00:24] <nacc> Lucuuu: i mean, i guess i don't know precisely what you mean, but yes, an upgrade changes things...
[00:24] <ShellCoder> what do you men bu supported for 9 months
[00:24] <ShellCoder> what do you men by supported for 9 months
[00:24] <ShellCoder> what do you mean by supported for 9 months
[00:24] <nacc> !lts | ShellCoder: as opposed to:
[00:24] <nacc> !patience | ShellCoder
[00:25] <nacc> ShellCoder: and non-LTS are supported for 9 months
[00:25] <Guest29630> Can someone help me? I'm getting a fatal crash on installion of ubuntu server 16 LTS on a Dell poweredge 2950
[00:25] <ShellCoder> if I install this one in the next 9 months it wil no longer work?
[00:26] <nacc> ShellCoder: what is "this one"?
[00:26] <nacc> !who | ShellCoder
[00:26] <nacc> ShellCoder: and it's not about what works or not, it's about what is supported or not
[00:26] <ShellCoder> on 16.04
[00:26] <nacc> ShellCoder: 16.04 is an LTS.
[00:27] <ShellCoder> whta will not be supported on ubuntu is it the packages or what?
[00:27] <neon_squirrel> Guest29630 What kind of crash?
[00:27] <nacc> ShellCoder: you're on 16.04, you don't need to think about it for 4 years
[00:27] <Guest29630> can someone help me with a fatal crash on ubuntu server 16 LTS?
[00:27] <nacc> Guest29630: do you have a screenshot, or logs?
[00:27] <Guest29630> no cannot get past language select on the boot
[00:28] <Guest29630> server restarts
[00:28] <nacc> ShellCoder: for example, 15.10 went EOL in july 2016: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:28] <ShellCoder> I still don't know what "is no longer supported" means
[00:28] <nacc> ShellCoder: no longer receives any updates
[00:28] <monsune> ShellCoder updates
[00:28] <nacc> ShellCoder: and not supported here in this channel or generally
[00:29] <nacc> Guest29630: it restarts or it crashes?
[00:29] <Guest29630> give me a scond nacc i can give you a screenshot
[00:29] <Guest29630> is gyazo link ok?
[00:29] <monsune> Guest29630 is that vm?
[00:29] <Guest29630> no vm
[00:30] <monsune> ok
[00:30] <nacc> Guest29630: probably? or imgur
[00:30] <neon_squirrel> Guest29630: Is this a production system in an enterprise environment or at home?
[00:31] <Guest29630> home but it is on a dell poweredge 2950
[00:31] <Guest29630> https://gyazo.com/cf677c57b3f16d87afb79a518f50f19d
[00:31] <Guest29630> i can only get as far as press enter to install ubuntu server then reboots into that
[00:31] <monsune> i would check the hd
[00:32] <Guest29630> i have a raid 1 setup
[00:32] <nacc> Guest29630: so that's saying there was a fatal error during previous boot? but you mentioned earlier "language select"?
[00:32] <Guest29630> yes it restarts into the fatal error message after the language select
[00:32] <monsune> failing mem?
[00:33] <Guest29630> 14 lts boots fine
[00:33] <Guest29630> just an issue with 16 lts
[00:33] <neon_squirrel> Guest29630: Looks like you have a PERC as well as a DRAC, is that right?
[00:33] <Guest29630> correct
[00:33] <neon_squirrel> Try draining flea power as well as updating the firmware on the DRAC.
[00:34] <Guest29630> i updated baseboard firmware, BIOS, and PERC 5/i firmware today
[00:35] <Guest29630> i can try draining the power from the server and unhooking the perc battery for 10 min
[00:35] <nacc> neon_squirrel: have you seen that cause this kind of issue before?
[00:35] <Guest29630> no
[00:36] <blazeme8> in autotools, what is the difference between the "all" and "all-am" targets?
[00:36] <eduard> Hello.
[00:36] <eduard> How able
[00:36] <eduard> for connect
[00:36] <eduard> to another irc?
[00:37] <nacc> !alis | blazeme8: you may want to search for a more appropriate channel.
[00:37] <nacc> eduard: /connect or /join? do you mean server or channel?
[00:37] <neon_squirrel> I work in ProSupport. I've not seen this personally, no. But it may resolve the issue given that it appears his error message is in regards to a previous issue and it won't boot into the OS.
[00:37] <Guest29630> give me a moment. i was able to get further on install with ubuntu 14 but that was via a remote mounted iso on the DRAC. I'm going to try remote mount iso with 16 instead of USB
[00:37] <blazeme8> fair enough nacc
[00:38] <nacc> neon_squirrel: interesting -- I was assumign the fatal error each time was the failed installed of ubuntu 16.04
[00:38] <nacc> neon_squirrel: which makes me suspect tripping something in the hardware, based upon the symptoms
[00:41] <sallu> anyOne alive here
[00:41] <ikonia> many people
[00:41] <neon_squirrel> nacc: Agreed. I've never dealt with our servers before, but I figured it never hurt to try. I'd also suggest tapping F2 to get to setup and see if he can't run ePSAs to rule out any hardware faults.
[00:42] <Guest29630> ePSAs?
[00:42] <sallu> akik: you also in ubuntu channel too, good to see you here
[00:42] <neon_squirrel> Guest29630: Onboard hardware diags.
[00:42] <sallu> ikonia: ok
[00:42] <Guest29630> ah gotcha
[00:42] <sallu> Does anyOne know how to install ubuntu on a gpt partiton table hardisk
[00:42] <sallu> :(
[00:43] <neon_squirrel> I think you can get to them by tapping F5, at least you can on our consumer systems.
[00:43] <ikonia> sallu: same as a dos based partition table
[00:44] <sallu> ikonia:  i am totally stuck for the past few days, not hours but days, i am unable to install ubuntu
[00:44] <ikonia> whats the problem
[00:45] <nacc> neon_squirrel: nice, thanks for that tip!
[00:45] <sallu> ikonia: i have windows 10 on my hardisk with uefi and then i installed ubuntu along side windows 10 same on uefi based , for a year it ran fine
[00:45] <sallu> ikonia: then i have delete ubuntu partition from with in windows 10 for saving some data on these partitons
[00:46] <emmet> hey
[00:46] <neon_squirrel> nacc: Absolutely!
[00:46] <sallu> ikonia: then later someOne intentinally deleted C drive of windows and i decided now to delete all partition except some important to only install ubuntu
[00:47] <sallu> ikonia: now how to install ubuntu, tell me
[00:47] <ikonia> put install media in machine, boot install media, follow instruction after clicking "install"
[00:47] <monsune> sallu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9z73RLTnw8
[00:48] <sallu> monsune: ok
[00:48] <sallu> ikonia: my friend gave e his ubuntu bootable usb drive, i tried to install it from there
[00:48] <ikonia> sallu: you've still not said the problem
[00:49] <sallu> ikonia: i delete all partition except two partition which has some important stuff , then i made 3 new partition for ubuntu, one is root,other is home,and 3rd one is swap
[00:49] <nacc> sallu: where did you make these partitions? in the installer? or outside of it?
[00:49] <monsune> sallu what happens when you actually boot the usb?
[00:50] <sallu> nacc: i did it in the installer , installer use gparted i guess
[00:50] <nacc> sallu: ok
[00:50] <sallu> ikonia: then i installed whole ubuntu , but when  i restarted , my pc says no boot device found
[00:51] <Guest29630> i think i may know the issue why its crashing lol i feel stupid
[00:51] <Guest29630> https://gyazo.com/0e56823861e6da22170498ca2ddfaa4f
[00:51] <Guest29630> the disk is re-initializing for some reason
[00:51] <sallu> monsune: i installed whole ubuntu, in the end i restarted but ubuntu doesn't boot up
[00:51] <ikonia> sallu: most likley because grub is installed in the wrong place
[00:51] <ikonia> or your missing the efi partition
[00:51] <nacc> Guest29630: ah
[00:52] <Guest29630> nacc: let's see if thats the issue :P
[00:52] <sallu> ikonia: i chose legacy boot mode before i started to install ubuntu
[00:52] <ikonia> sallu: ok, so then grub is in the wrong place
[00:52] <sallu> ikonia: bcoz my friend usb was not detected if i don't chose legacy boot mode, so i changed it from uefi native to legacy
[00:52] <neon_squirrel> Guest29630: I feel dumb....I didn't even think about that.
[00:53] <Guest29630> neon_squirrel: lol, all good
[00:53] <Guest29630> !nick Kevin
[00:53] <Guest29630> how do i set nickname or change from guest?
[00:54] <sallu> ikonia: do you think , ubuntu is made by some milkman, and he gave so abrupt programming that it can not be installed on standalone OS with no other OS in my hardisk, i am so mad, sorry bro
[00:55] <Guest29630> i'm kinda new to irc how do i change my display name on here?
[00:55] <sallu> Guest29630: use this command /nick yourname
[00:55] <ikonia> sallu: I think you've just said a load of nonsense and made yourself look silly,
[00:55] <slim> hello
[00:55] <slim> any one use ubuntu mate
[00:55] <sallu> ikonia: yeah thats why i said sorry in the end
[00:56] <ikonia> sallu: and thats why I won't help you
[00:56] <kevinb22> there
[00:56] <sallu> ikonia: so help me out bro with grub or grub2
[00:56] <ikonia> no
[00:56] <ikonia> I'm the milkman - help yourself
[00:56] <sallu> ikonia: oh mY God, are you serious ..
[00:56] <neon_squirrel> kevinb22: What's the server used for? Just curious.
[00:57] <kenrin> sallu if you only made 3 paritions, root, home, and swap,  just reinstall and make a /boot
[00:57] <sallu> ikonia: i literally mean to make the point that milkman is another good thing and programing is another good thing. sorry if you got it wrong
[00:57] <kevinb22> i wanted to use it as a family shared drive and backup data
[00:57] <ikonia> sallu: no you didn't
[00:58] <sallu> kenrin: i have 3 partitions plus two other ntfs partitions too in which i have important data stuff
[00:58] <kevinb22> neon_squirrel: but such a pain for something so simple...
[00:58] <ikonia> kenrin: why would /boot help him ?
[00:58] <neon_squirrel> kevinb32: RAID is a pain in the ass lol. I have a love hate relationship with it.
[00:58] <sallu> ikonia: sorry again ikonia
[00:59] <sallu> kenrin: do you think if i again make partition boot too, it will solve the problem. are you sure ?
[01:00] <sallu> kenrin: after i made all the partition , then what to do next, i should click on root partition and click next or click on sda and it will choose automatically
[01:01] <sallu> how much size i should give to this boot partition, let me google it
[01:01] <ikonia> kenrin: why would /boot help him ?
[01:01] <kenrin> *shrug*  helps me so I know which place to set bios to boot from
[01:02] <ikonia> so you have no idea of the problem or the fix
[01:02] <ikonia> you've just told him to do a random thing
[01:02] <tomreyn> slim: i'm pretty sure someone does. what'syour actual question?
[01:04] <sallu> ikonia: my man, i am waiting for you to speak, i am so humble in discussion now
[01:05] <ikonia> sallu: we are done
[01:06] <sallu> ikonia: i am serious.
[01:07] <ikonia> as am I
[01:07] <ubuntu180> how do i install update when the computer can not find them
[01:07] <ikonia> ubuntu180: what do you mean ?
[01:09] <ubuntu180> my computer keeps buging me to update but when i do it via comand line it is saying that some files cannot be found
[01:11] <ikonia> do what ?
[01:11] <ikonia> ubuntu180: if you want help you need to provide actual details please.
[01:11] <nacc> ubuntu180: pastebin the exact command used and output
[01:11] <nacc> !pastebin | ubuntu180
[01:29] <ekesh> Hi
[01:43] <phpwebber> Hello, I have a question about php, but knowledge is limited
[01:44] <PickledEggs> phpwebber: is it ubuntu related?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> !ask | phpwebber
[01:44] <ekesh> Hi
[01:45] <ekesh> How can I join another IRC Channel ?
[01:45] <sl4ck> .
[01:45] <ekesh> I have the channel name
[01:45] <PickledEggs>  type /j #channelname
[01:45] <ekesh> thank you
[01:45] <phpwebber> I have a script that downloads xml from betclic and parses live events into the mysql database
[01:45] <phpwebber> for some reason, it parses only today's events, but in xml other are also present
[01:46] <tominator> Evening Fellas
[01:47] <tominator> I got a question about the boot partition
[01:48] <PickledEggs> phpwebber: you'll have better luck in a php specific room
[01:48] <tominator> Ok, I'll try it
[01:49] <PickledEggs> tominator: whats your problem?
[01:49] <tominator> Well, it'd seem my Boot partition is full. I have too many headers?
[01:49] <tominator> I'm honestly not sure what to do, I've cleaned up old distributions
[01:50] <cfhowlett> tominator, yep.  time to delete.  sudo apt-get autoclean      might do it
[01:50] <tominator> Alright, I'll run that right quick and get back with an answer
[01:50] <tominator> It read the state information and then said done
[01:51] <cfhowlett> tominator, dpkg -l | grep linux-headers*
[01:51] <cfhowlett> if more than 4, you need to manually clean
[01:51] <tominator> Will that delete all but the most recent header?
[01:52] <cfhowlett> no that command lists headers.  delete is a different command with sudo
[01:52] <PickledEggs> that command will just list your headers
[01:52] <tominator> Should I bring it back here for you?
[01:53] <cfhowlett> tominator, dpkg -l |grep linux-headers | pastebinit
[01:53] <cfhowlett> and report the url
[01:53] <tominator> Aight, Be right on it
[01:55] <celine> hey
[01:55] <dee> Hello
[01:55] <celine> I am new to IRC and wanted to check things out
[01:56] <cfhowlett> celine, greetings.  this channel is specifically for ubuntu support.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:56] <greta_samsa> Hey, I accidentally set my IFS to something different in a script. What's the default IFS?
[01:56] <celine> ah ok my bad
[01:56] <dee> Pending onyour age or if you can remember AOL .... this is it ...more or less
[01:57] <cfhowlett> dee, check you channel.  this is UBUNTU support.
[01:57] <dee> my bad just answer to celine
[01:58] <celine> ok I am out. thanks.
[01:58] <dee> do have a question to the room anyone run 16.04 lts on a dou core ??
[01:58] <greta_samsa> Nevermind, I determined that the default IFS is " \t\n".
[01:58] <tominator> ALright, go it, just gotta do the URL
[01:58] <cfhowlett> dee, dual core?  should be not problem.
[01:59] <nchambers> greta_samsa, setting IFS in a script shouldn't affect your interactive session...
[01:59] <tominator> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23565769/
[01:59] <dee> yeah, running the 64 bit version w 8 gigs on a duo and getting some mouse lag from time to time
[01:59] <monsune> poor celine... addicted to facebook crap
[02:00] <cfhowlett> tominator, spring cleaning time!
[02:00] <tominator> That bad???
[02:00] <greta_samsa> nchambers: Right; I had sourced the script, though.
[02:00] <nchambers> ah
[02:00] <nchambers> nmd
[02:00] <nchambers> that will do it
[02:00] <cfhowlett> the /boot partition has limited space and kernels eat it up quickly so ... yeah.  time to clean things out
[02:01] <wedgie> greta_samsa: could always just start a new session to get back on track
[02:01] <tominator> Okay! Sounds like a plan! How would I do that?
[02:01] <cfhowlett> http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/   tominator
[02:01] <tominator> Awesome, I'll check it out
[02:01] <tominator> Thank you all!
[02:01] <cfhowlett> happy2help! tominator
[02:02] <greta_samsa> wedgie: Thanks; I already found it, though, and used IFS=$(echo -e etc. to put it back.
[02:02] <tominator> I've been struggling with this for a few weeks now and only just thought of XChat. I knew it wouldn't let me down XD
[02:03] <cfhowlett> tominator, yes but
[02:03] <tominator> Tchuss!
[02:03] <tominator> oh?
[02:03] <dee> what would you guys suggest for running a FTP server ?
[02:03] <cfhowlett> be aware that xchat is no longer supported, updated or developed.  for years.  suggest you install the fork: hexchat.
[02:03] <nchambers> greta_samsa, for future reference you can just do IFS=$'\t\n'
[02:03] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get purge xchat && sudo install hexchat
[02:03] <wedgie> nchambers: don't forget space!
[02:03] <nchambers> oh right
[02:03] <greta_samsa> nchambers: Ah, I hadn't remembered that it'll expand that. Thanks!
[02:04] <nchambers> np
[02:04] <monsune> apt-get update... 100% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com] and nothing since 1 min or so :/
[02:04] <tominator> Oh gosh! I had a feeling that was the case when I couldn't find it anywhere. I'm on a raspberry pi with a remote desktop right now.
[02:04] <tominator> I will do that right away
[02:04] <cfhowlett> :)
[02:04] <monsune> eventually i got: Could not resolve 'security.ubuntu.com' <--why is this happening?
[02:05] <wedgie> monsune: sounds like network trouble. That would indicate that it can't look up the dns name for some reason
[02:05] <tomreyn> monsune: because your system is unable to receive the information from a DNS server
[02:05] <kevinb22> nacc you there?
[02:05] <tominator> Thank you all! I appreciate it!
[02:06] <monsune> tomreyn it works very well for anything but security.ubuntu.com
[02:07] <kevinb22> i was able to fix my issue with ubuntu causing fatal message on poweredge 2950
[02:07] <kevinb22> it sounds silly but i unplugged the perc 5/E for the powervault and it installs now
[02:08] <tomreyn> monsune: make sure your internet connection works properly (you can run "ping 8.8.8.8" continuously in a terminal to see whether it does). then check which nameservers you are using and run some DNs queries against them to get a better idea of what's going wrong.
[02:08] <monsune> tomreyn it also worked for archive.ubuntu.com few seconds before it tried to download from security.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <monsune> tomreyn 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=5.10 ms
[02:10] <kevinb22> Thank you guys for the help
[02:11] <tomreyn> monsune: if the ping command keeps runing with out error messages then look into what's wrong with your resolver.
[02:12] <tomreyn> "host security.ubuntu.com" might give a clue
[02:15] <monsune> tomreyn flushing iptables sorted this out... really strange
[02:15] <tomreyn> monsune: not at all if you had outbound port 53 blocked
[02:15] <monsune> somehow it worked for several domains that i tried but not the security one
[02:15] <monsune> i had not
[02:15] <monsune> i'm telling you that i could resolve anything
[02:16] <tomreyn> you probably run a local dns cache
[02:16] <monsune> and no, i had no 53 outgoing blocked as well
[02:16] <monsune> i will look into firewall rules again
[02:16] <tomreyn> well, good it works now
[02:16] <monsune> yup and thank you for your patience too :)
[02:17] <monsune> hm
[02:17] <monsune> iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp -j DROP --match length --length 300:350
[02:17] <monsune> hmhm could be it
[02:20] <aquinnjr> hi everybody :)
[02:20] <nacc> kevank: ah nice that you got it fixed
[02:21] <nacc> kevank: sorry, looks like kevinb22 left
[02:23] <black_kape> ls -al
[02:24] <tomreyn> [sudo] password for black_kape:
[02:26] <tominator> Ello again
[02:26] <cfhowlett> greetings
[02:26] <tominator> So, got a bit of an issue
[02:26] <cfhowlett> explain
[02:27] <tominator> Unmet dependencies, and Synaptic says I've got a broken image extra and linux-image-generic
[02:28] <cfhowlett> tominator, do not delete the generic!
[02:28] <tominator> Yes, I am not sure that is what happened
[02:28] <cfhowlett> tominator, :)  kill all but the most RECENT TWO headers. be very careful with this.
[02:29] <tominator> I followed the link's instructions and it ran for a few
[02:29] <tominator> then came back with that, I went to synaptic to see if anything was different and it said Linux generic and the header is damaged.
[02:29] <tominator> I figured I should check back before taking any further steps
[02:30] <cfhowlett> tominator open a terminal and see uname -r                if you deleted the current running kernel (or partially deleted) you will see stranger things
[02:30] <tominator> Alright, let's see what happens, shall we?
[02:32] <tominator> It returned with 3.16.0-71-generic
[02:34] <tominator> I'm willing to guess I deleted my old kernal XD
[02:34] <cfhowlett> old kernels will not cause problems.  run sudo apt-get autoremove then dpkg -l | grep linux-headers*
[02:35] <tominator> copy that
[02:35] <tominator> Would you like a pastebinit? XD
[02:35] <cfhowlett> sure
[02:36] <tominator> Oh wait, I know the issue, one moment. i left Synaptic open, my bad
[02:36] <cfhowlett> tsk
[02:37] <sexurity> hello
[02:37] <tominator> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23565896
[02:37] <sexurity> E: Unable to locate package <package>  after using apt-get install  every time it come
[02:37] <sexurity> any one know the cause
[02:38] <sexurity> it solve and it come again
[02:38] <cfhowlett> sexurity, what version of ubuntu
[02:39] <sexurity> 	Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[02:39] <cfhowlett> sexurity, what package??
[02:39] <tominator> Here is the result:     http://paste.ubuntu.com/23565896
[02:40] <sexurity> in general yesterday i remove the unity desktop for changing it to ubuntu mate gui
[02:40] <cfhowlett> tominator, OK, see line 5?  do that.  also do sudo apt full-upgrade
[02:40] <sexurity> then it show me this msg when am trying to install
[02:40] <tominator> Can do.
[02:41] <mojtaba> Hello, Is there anything like VBA in outlook in thunderbird?
[02:41] <mojtaba> I want to automate my emails.
[02:41] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, best to ask #mozilla about that
[02:41] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: thanks
[02:42] <tominator> Should I use sudo? Just want to be careful.
[02:42] <tominator> Also, how are you using the direct red chat?
[02:42] <cfhowlett> tominator, yes.  sudo is for executing system commands - which is precisely what this is.
[02:43] <cfhowlett> tominator, red tab depends on your hexchat settings - I think it will be "highlight" something or other.
[02:44] <tominator> I mean it is red when you address me, just wondering how to do it back
[02:44] <cfhowlett> tominator, looks like preferences > Interface > Appearance > TExtBox > colored nick names
[02:45] <tominator> Alright, cool.
[02:46] <tominator> So, I did just "sudo apt-get -f install" and it says dpkg reutnred with error code (1)
[02:46] <cfhowlett> tominator, next command then
[02:46] <tominator> Alright.
[02:48] <tominator> "E: Unmet Dependencies. Try using -f""
[02:48] <cfhowlett> sudo apt full-upgrade -f
[02:49] <tominator> Okay. I never know if those will work. I've been ruined before by jumping to conclusions XD
[02:49] <cfhowlett> tominator, 1.  man <command>   will display lots of info about commands.  sudo apt full-upgrade      will update your sytem to the newest packages available in the ubuntu repos.
[02:50] <tominator> I see, I'll use that
[02:50] <tominator> Okay, so it started, and then kicked back with no disc space
[02:50] <tominator> then error code (1)
[02:51] <cfhowlett> whaaaaaaaaa?   that aint' right.  df -h | pastebinit
[02:51] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: Do you know what is the mozilla's channel?
[02:52] <cfhowlett> should be listed in your firefox help menu, mojtaba .  i'll look
[02:52] <tominator> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23565925
[02:53] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: thanks
[02:53] <cfhowlett> https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC mojtaba
[02:53] <cfhowlett> tominator, line 8 ...
[02:54] <tominator> Yes, but shouldn't the command from the "remove old packages with one command" fix that?
[02:55] <cfhowlett> tominator, yes but something clearly didn't work as you still show 100% so ... let me think
[02:56] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: most of the channels are empty!
[02:57] <cfhowlett> tominator, let's verify: ls -a /boot
[02:58] <tominator> Alright, it's got quite a bit lying around. Pastebinit?
[02:58] <cfhowlett> tominator, pro-tip. always assume pastebinit.  ubuntu likes pastbinit.
[02:58] <tominator> Got it :)
[02:59] <tominator> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23565933
[02:59] <tominator> It's an awfully easy process. I love it.
[03:00] <cfhowlett> tominator, the one-command fialed.  you are still very full
[03:00] <cfhowlett> wait 1
[03:00] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, try #firefox channel
[03:00] <mojtaba> I am in that channel, but no one is like responding.
[03:00] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: anyway, thanks for your time.
[03:01] <rentrax> hi
[03:01] <cfhowlett> mojtaba  happy2help!
[03:01] <rentrax> any can help me?
[03:01] <cfhowlett> !ask | rentrax
[03:03] <bynarie> AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors. - anyone know what exactly this error means??
[03:03] <rentrax> !ask ok my problem is i cant  use the internet in ubuntu netbook 10.10 because the neetbook dont have wireles card but i have a wireles adapter usb but icn use because the driver is for windows xp any sugestion?
[03:04] <bynarie> its not automatically loaded rentrax ?
[03:04] <bynarie> just upgrade your ubuntu to something modern
[03:05] <rentrax> like linux mint?
[03:05] <tominator> cfhowlett: Any luck?
[03:05] <james_> what do you know about Tor browser?
[03:05] <rentrax> for the deep web?
[03:06] <james_> i think so
[03:06] <rentrax> only in windows
[03:07] <rentrax> but you try download from the ubuntu software?
[03:07] <james_> i saw it in the software options
[03:07] <rentrax> and?
[03:08] <james_> i was just curious about it and wonder if it does really works. Security and all
[03:08] <rentrax> dont show the program?
[03:08] <rentrax> i dont recomended this navegator
[03:09] <james_> ok thanks
[03:10] <rentrax> irc://chat.freenode.net/#ubuntu-ops.
[03:10] <cfhowlett> tominator, sorry, got knocked off channel.  let's try sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[03:11] <tominator> It's all good!
[03:11] <cfhowlett> clarify?
[03:11] <tominator> Alright, I'll run it and see what happens
[03:11] <tominator> I'm fine to wait
[03:11] <tominator> You're fine for being kicked off
[03:12] <tominator> The day I stop typing "sudp" is a good day
[03:13] <tominator> It has come back with unmet dependencies again. Would running the repair package utility in SYnaptic do any good?
[03:13] <ned___> I'm looking for help with DNS
[03:13] <ned___> I've got Ubuntu as a router with a local network server (static IP) called "citadel" and I've put an entry into hosts. I can ping on the router but not from other computers on the network
[03:15]  * ov3rwatch is back (gone 00:00:15)
[03:16] <tominator> Having some internet troubles there friend? XD
[03:16] <cfhowlett> starbucks at lunchtime Tokyo, yeah it's like that
[03:16]  * ov3rwatch is away: AFK... ILL BE BAAHHHCK!
[03:17] <cfhowlett> tominator, let's try sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[03:17] <tominator> Ah, understandable.
[03:17] <tominator> Alright
[03:18] <tominator> Yeah, I tried that and it still has unmet dependencies
[03:19] <cfhowlett> tominator, dpkg --list | grep kernel-image | pastebinit
[03:19] <ned___> ned requesting dns help local network
[03:19] <tominator> Is it my system being the problem? I don't want to waste your time if it is something that can be fixed with a reboot
[03:19] <cfhowlett> tominator, reboot?  REBOOT?!  This ain't windows!
[03:20]  * cfhowlett delivers a stinging smack to Tominator's side of head
[03:20] <tominator> Sorry, sorry, not reboot, I meant reinstall
[03:20] <cfhowlett> REINSTALL?
[03:20]  * cfhowlett delivers double smack ...
[03:20] <cfhowlett> you're thinking of windows solutions to ubuntu problems.
[03:21] <tominator> ;D Yeah, I'm realtively new to Linux. Been learning for about a year now.
[03:21] <cfhowlett> this is a simple housekeeping operation.  the full partition slightly complicates things but is fixable.
[03:21] <cfhowlett> so .... dpkg --list | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[03:21] <tominator> Understood! :D
[03:22] <tominator> It claims I am trying to send an empty document.
[03:22] <cfhowlett> tominator, do it without the |pastebinit
[03:22] <tominator> Hai
[03:23] <tominator> It does not return anything. Just  returns to the input
[03:23] <cfhowlett> tominator, meaning that the command reports nothing there
[03:23] <cfhowlett> OK then: reboot
[03:24] <tominator> Alright. Crossing fingers. I'll still be able to reconnect here if the system fails
[03:27] <ned___> just curious if anyone can help with routing/DNS problem on ubuntu server
[03:28] <wedgie> ned___: what's the problem?
[03:29] <ned___> ubuntu router has "hosts" entry for server on network and can ping by name, router using bind9, other computers can't ping that server by name
[03:29] <ned___> thanks, wedge, in advance
[03:29] <francium> hello. Can anyone read this?
[03:29] <francium> test 1, 2 3
[03:29] <kk4ewt> but they can by ip?
[03:29] <wedgie> so you have a bind9 server on the router?
[03:29] <jim1> hello I can read it
[03:29] <ned___> hello francium. I see you
[03:29] <tominator> Well, well, it has rebooted. Apparently a kernal isn't what I assumed it was, but I can deal with that later.
[03:30] <kk4ewt> ned___,  but they can by ip?
[03:30] <tominator> So, I've rebooted, what is the next step?
[03:30] <francium> thanks, guess no one is active on other channel I'm trying to talk on
[03:30] <ned___> yes, bind9 on the router - all users on network can ping outside of network and can ping internal ip addresses but can't ping internal names
[03:31] <wedgie> ned___: are the clients using the router as their nameserver?
[03:31] <francium> I'm not on ubuntu myself, but would someone be willing to help me out with a graphics (external montior) issue? http://i.imgur.com/gz08fKh.png
[03:31] <ned___> I'm using webmin to configure the router and I've set it to use hosts first, then dns to resolve names
[03:31] <wedgie> also, if you have hosts entries on the router, are you sure that bind is even configured correctly? Because the router's lookups would work without bind
[03:31] <ned___> clients using router as nameserver
[03:32] <wedgie> ned___: on the nameserver if you do ''host someintername 127.0.0.1'' do you get a correct result?
[03:32] <wedgie> s/nameserver/router/
[03:33] <ned___> I'm not sure how to test that. If I ping "citadel" on the router it's recognized from the router.
[03:33]  * ov3rwatch is back (gone 00:16:36)
[03:33] <wedgie> ned___: i just told you how: ''host <somename> 127.0.0.1''
[03:33] <raul782> hello guys, I've removed manually all my old kernels
[03:34] <raul782> but now that I want to install a new package, I'm running into issues
[03:34] <krytarik> !away | ov3rwatch
[03:34] <raul782> is there a way to syncrhonize my package manager
[03:34] <tominator> raul782 I just did the same thing. I am getting help now.
[03:34] <xangua> raul782: why manually? Why didn't you use apt autoremove?
[03:34] <mattsah> SSDs are really cheap
[03:34] <tominator> raul782: I just did the same thing. I am getting help now.
[03:34] <ned___> typing "host citadel 127.0.0.1" gives "name 127.0.0.1 address 127.0.0.1#53" and no aliases
[03:35] <ov3rwatch> krytarik, sorry about that reinstalled chat and just forgot to untick that when i set my away message
[03:35] <raul782> xangua: I thought that by removing and update grub would do the trick
[03:35] <ov3rwatch> *xchat
[03:35] <raul782> but i was wrong
[03:35] <raul782> I've tried to re-install the linux images but no luck
[03:35] <wedgie> ned___: ok, and how about from another host on the network: ''host citadel <router's ip>''
[03:36] <raul782> btw, I'm in emergency mode
[03:36] <raul782> or maintenance mode
[03:37] <ned___> host citadel routers ip returns the routers ip
[03:37] <raul782> I'm trying to autoremove but no luck
[03:37] <raul782> gettng fatal errors
[03:37] <wedgie> ned___: so... that sounds like it is working, no?
[03:37] <wedgie> so it's time to verify that the hosts are actually using the router as their DNS server
[03:38] <wedgie> how about just ''host citadel'' from that same client?
[03:38] <raul782> tominator: what are the steps you're doing now
[03:39] <ned___> I'm not familiar with that use of the host command; I know that the other computers are using the router for dns because I set one computer static and without dns-namservers in /etc/network/interfaces all dns failed on the computer
[03:40] <tominator> raul782: I am working with cfhowlett on it but he's having connection issues. I'd stick around till he is back
[03:40] <wedgie> well, that host command verified that it could look up the name 'citadel' on the router. So if just ''host citadel'' fails then it is probably not actually configured to use your dns server
[03:40] <raul782> Ic,
[03:40] <ned___> I've just looked up the man page of that use of the host command, and yes, it appears that dns is working on another computer ont he wetwork
[03:40] <raul782> humm, I was looking on the web
[03:40] <raul782> I've tried all different approaches
[03:40] <raul782> but no luck
[03:40] <raul782> yet
[03:41] <tominator> Well, this is the place to come.
[03:41] <raul782> I wonder if there is a way to manually update the package manager
[03:41] <ned___> my resolv.conf file on the router has only one single entry, the ip address of the router
[03:42] <tominator> raul782, what is your issue again?
[03:42] <tominator> Specifically
[03:42] <wedgie> ned___: we've already established that it works on the router. What does ''host citadel'' on another host on the network return?
[03:43] <tominator> cfhowlett, It seems we have another fellow here with a similar problem to mine
[03:43] <ned___> host citadel routerip on another computer returns "using domain server (routerip), Name: (routerip), Address: (routerip)#53 Aliases: "
[03:43] <cfhowlett> tominator, cool.  you help him.  I'll see if we can resolve yours
[03:43] <raul782> well I remove manually all the files related to older kernels
[03:43] <ned___> routerip is 192.168.40.1
[03:43] <wedgie> ned___: no... not host citadel routerip. JUST ''host citadel''
[03:44] <raul782> now running apt autoremove --purge is not working
[03:44] <ned___> "host citadel" doesn't return anything on another computer on the network
[03:44] <wedgie> ok, so that would suggest that that host isn't in fact using the router as its nameserver
[03:44] <raul782> I tried to reinstall the headers because it said that it needed the kernel headers due to unmet dependencies when trying to install another package
[03:45] <ned___> host citadel also doesn't return anything on the router
[03:45] <raul782> but still no luck
[03:45] <raul782> the exact error per kernel is the following
[03:45] <wedgie> ned___: what if you include the domain name? ''host citadel.domain.com''
[03:46] <tominator> raul782, I have found that pastebinit is the best thing ever, try to use that
[03:46] <ned___> domainname returns
[03:46] <raul782> humm, I'm writing from another laptop, my ubuntu desktop is in shell
[03:46] <raul782> mode
[03:46] <ned___> domainname returns (none)
[03:46] <raul782> tominator: no graphical interface
[03:47] <raul782> It might be a bit challeging trying to past
[03:47] <tominator> raul782, So you really are in a similar situation to me.
[03:47] <ned___> do I need to set a domain name
[03:47] <wedgie> ned___: how did you configure bind without a domain?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> tominator, perfect opportunity to explain how | pastebinit is used1
[03:48] <raul782> let me type the error : Your kernel headers for kernel 4.4.0.24-generic cannot be found. Please install the linux-headers-4.4.0-24-generic package.
[03:48] <cfhowlett> raul782, problem and solution stated: install that package
[03:48] <raul782> then I get a warning missing /lib/modules/4.4.0.24-generic
[03:49] <tominator> raul782, allow me to explain our lord and savior pastebinit very quickly
[03:49] <ned___> I'm not quite sure. I followed directions to make a router from the ubuntu website
[03:49] <ned___> I used directions at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=926001 "how to set up ubuntu as a firewall/gateway router with webmin
[03:50] <wedgie> hmm, well bind has little to do with routing. If i had to guess it is probably just configured as a forwarder. If you want it to serve local names too you have to configure it for that
[03:50] <cfhowlett> !webmin | ned___
[03:50] <raul782> tominator: ok
[03:50] <raul782> enlight me :)
[03:50] <tominator> raul782, pastebinit basically takes all of the text from the last run command and puts it on a website so I (we) can see it securely. It is better than typing out lines from the console.
[03:50] <cfhowlett> wedgie, as a side note: that tutorial is from 2008!
[03:50] <raul782> ok
[03:51] <raul782> will do
[03:51] <tominator> raul782, Since you are just on the terminal, let's see if you can get it with sudo apt-get
[03:51] <ned___> yes; I followed it but read many additional tutorials/references
[03:51] <tominator> raul782, sudo apt-get update
[03:51] <wedgie> ned___: yeah, there was 0 configuration done to it with that guide. If you want to serve local names look up a bind tutorial. I will warn you in advance it'll be a bit of a project if you haven't done it before
[03:52] <cfhowlett> ned___, and did you also see the very explicit warning NOT to use webmin?
[03:52] <tominator> raul782, then sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:52] <raul782> lucky me, pastebinit is already installed
[03:52] <ned___> it's been working for me for a while, ~2 years, but I'm now trying to set up a calendar server on the local network with a fixed ip address
[03:52] <tominator> raul782, oh, very good!
[03:52] <raul782> tominator: running pastebinit waiting for the results
[03:53] <tominator> raul782, So let's try to use it....
[03:53] <cfhowlett> ned___, well you are using an unsupported and ill-advised solution.  expect no help here as it is officially recommended you avoid webmin.  ask webmin help channels for support
[03:53] <ned___> is "digitalocean" a good reference - I've just found a bind9 guide for Ubuntu 16.04 which is what I'm now running on the router
[03:54] <ned___> most of the bind9 tutorials I've found talk about delegating DNS servers and I've just got one DNS server
[03:54] <wedgie> ned___: i've seen some decent stuff on their sites before
[03:54] <wedgie> link?
[03:55] <ned___> here's the link I just found https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-bind-as-a-private-network-dns-server-on-ubuntu-16-04
[03:55] <tominator> raul782, run apt autoremove --purge | pastebinit (if cfhowlett checks it off)
[03:55] <tominator> raul782, then give the URL here
[03:55] <cfhowlett> correctomundo!
[03:55] <raul782> alright, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566080/
[03:55] <tominator> Oh, awesome
[03:56] <cfhowlett> what command is that from??
[03:56] <ned___> it's really more complicated than my set up: I've got about 10 computers on my home network, one serves as a router and the others go through that to get to the internet; I'm now planning to setup a calendar server on a fixed IP
[03:56] <wedgie> ned___: looks pretty sane to me.
[03:56] <cfhowlett> ned___, #networking or #ubuntu-server   might know more about this level of *buntu
[03:57] <raul782> cfhowlett: sudo -f  install linux-headers-4.4.0-24-generic ..... and all headers missing
[03:57] <ned___> also, from all that I've read if I've asked bind9 to look at the hosts file I don't understand why I doesn't offer name resolution from that file
[03:57] <cfhowlett> raul782, it's trying to install - what - 9 kernels?  that ain't right!
[03:57] <raul782> yep
[03:57] <raul782> ok let me show you the commad
[03:58] <raul782> from autoremove
[03:59] <raul782> sudo apt autoremove --purge  > http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566089/
[03:59] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[04:00] <vahe> hi all,after installing the Ubuntu stopped working keyboard backlight,fn+right
[04:00] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, raul782 and tominator seem to have the same type error: full /boot but can't clean out old kernels.  Advice??
[04:02] <garywhite> Sparklyballs weren't you on #category5 last night?
[04:03] <tominator> cfhowlett, Well, I'm quite glad the system DID reboot
[04:03] <Xsavior> how do you stop a service from starting up? I used: sudo systemctl disable blah@blah.service, but it doesn't work...
[04:04] <Xsavior> It still starts up on boot.
[04:04] <Bashing-om> chachasmooth: for raul782 I am going to suggest we look at /usr/src and /lib/modules/ and compare them to /boot . I bet here we take things in hand maunally and break the package manager .. will have to fix it then.
[04:05] <ned___> I can't seem to find any other references to how bind9 uses the hosts file
[04:06] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: sorry chachasmooth ; cfhowlett see my last please .
[04:06] <wedgie> ned___: not sure what to tell you. I've never seen it configured that way
[04:06] <wedgie> ned___: maybe you want dnsmasq instead?
[04:06] <ned___> how can I add a domainname to test if that fixes it?
[04:08] <raul782> Humm, when you say break the package manager, what do you mean, how can I update the package manager manually?
[04:08] <cfhowlett> tominator, and is your kernel issue resolved then?
[04:08] <tominator> cfhowlett, Unfortuantely, no, I still have no space on /Boot
[04:09] <Bashing-om> raul782: Allow me to assust . We have to get all the system files consisdten . pastebin ' ls -al /isr/src/ ; ls -al /libmodules ; ls -al /boot ; dpkg -l | grep linux ' . Se wht it is going to take to make the system happy .
[04:10] <Bashing-om> rau typo " ls -al /usr/src/ " // vice /isr **
[04:13] <ned___> this seems to be an issue with bind9 not picking up the hosts file
[04:14] <wedgie> ned___: afaik bind9 does *not* use the hosts file.
[04:15] <ned___> on the webmin "Hostname and DNS Client" page I've selected using the Hosts file first. I guess this is just for the router itself.
[04:15] <wedgie> yes.
[04:15] <ned___> can bind9 be configured to use the router first, then it's DNS settings next?
[04:15] <raul782> humm, I'm only getting the last result
[04:16] <raul782> dpkg -l | grep linux
[04:16] <cfhowlett> raul782, pastebinit!
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !paste
[04:16] <wedgie> ned___: bind9 is a dns server. I think what you want is dnsmasq instead. Much simpler
[04:16] <cfhowlett> raul782, for reference: command | pastebinit
[04:16] <tominator> cfhowlett, I have a linux recovery environment, perhaps I could access boot from there and remove them? Or will that destabilize more?
[04:16] <Bashing-om> raul782: .. ouch ! try again as ' ls -al /usr/src/ ' We GOT to have that directory .
[04:17] <cfhowlett> tominator, last resort, but yeah that should restore you to working order.
[04:17] <raul782> ok
[04:17] <ned___> I went with bind9 because that's what the tutorial used. I'll look into dnsmasq but maybe I just need to add an entry in the bind9 configure to match the entries in the hosts file
[04:17] <tominator> cfhowlett, any other resorts to use before then?
[04:17] <wedgie> ned___: first hit I got on google. Looks promising for your needs: https://gist.github.com/magnetikonline/6236150
[04:18] <cfhowlett> tominator, ask bashing cuz I thought for sure, I as ahead of this thing.  clearly, I was wrong.
[04:18] <ned___> thanks. I'm looking for a similar option in bind9
[04:19] <tominator> cfhowlett, It isn't your fault, we did what we could. It is probably something to do with the hours of tinkering I've done with the system.
[04:19] <Bashing-om> tominator: In recovery mode .. the system is read only untill you explicitly set it to read write . You can not make changes to the system .
[04:19] <cfhowlett> tominator, I understand.  I also have the restore image on my system :)
[04:20] <raul782> ok I'll paste multiple urls
[04:21] <raul782> paste.ubuntu.com/23566125
[04:21] <tominator> Bashing-om, so what shall I do? I do have a backup of the system, so if it comes to it, I can wipe it. But preferably not.
[04:21] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566126/
[04:21] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566125/
[04:21] <cfhowlett> O - M - G
[04:21] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566129/
[04:21] <Bashing-om> tominator: Let's get out of recovery . can you boot to the login screen and from there activate a console ( clt+alt+F1 ) ?
[04:21] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566130/
[04:23] <tominator> Bashing-om, cfhowlett There seems to have been a misunderstanding along the way. I am logged on and the system is functioning. To answer your question however, I can access the console.
[04:23] <Bashing-om> tominator: Though you were here 1st, let me get raul782 on a path .. and I return to see what we can do with your system .. I am pretty good in situations like this .
[04:24] <tominator> Bashing-om, sounds good. I'll be back in about 3 minutes.
[04:24] <Bashing-om> raul782: if you do not nick me I will miss your responses / this channel is busy !
[04:24] <raul782>  Bashing-om: got it
[04:29] <Bashing-om> raul782: Good .. I see you ! .. OK, I am going to be a while setting all this up . Show me what kernel you are booting now ' uname -r ' Keep this one in mind . We must not mess with it .
[04:30] <raul782> ok 4.4.0.47-generic
[04:30] <raul782> Bashing-om: 4.4.0.47-generic
[04:31] <tominator> cfhowlett, Just had an idea, what if I was to update grub?
[04:32] <pktiw> Updating grub is simple
[04:32] <pktiw> there is a sudo command :-)
[04:32] <cfhowlett> tominator, won't break anything.  sudo grub update is the command --- I think
[04:32] <pktiw> maybe
[04:32] <tominator> Alright, I'll give that a go. Maybe if some list is down in the system it just needs to be updated and grub makes sense.
[04:32] <tominator> Don't think about it too much :D
[04:35] <raul782> Bashing-om: I was thinking on copying for all the kernels with the one I had, 4.4.0-47, would that work. because in the end what I want is just have the system remove those kernels
[04:38] <tominator> cfhowlett, I just ran "sudo apt-get -f install" and it seems to be making some actual progress
[04:39] <tominator> ohp. Jinxed myself. Nevermind XD
[04:41] <Bashing-om> raul782: This is going to be a trial . Let's do this very slowly and very carefully .. doing a few removals at the time and a lot of progress reports . / do ' sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-{8,10,11}{,-generic} ; sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/2.6.38-{8,10,11}* ' .
[04:42] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok will do that
[04:44] <tomed> does linux have better support for exfat or ntfs?
[04:44] <tominator> tomed, Linux does not support ExFAT
[04:45] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok removed
[04:45] <Bashing-om> raul782:  All we can do is match what is in /boot .. and have the system heal it's self when we have all the ducks in a row . As you can see it is going to be a long process .
[04:45] <tomed> really?  but exfat has no permissions
[04:45] <raul782> ohh Ic
[04:46] <raul782> Bashing-om: perfect since there is only one kernel
[04:46] <tominator> tomed, What do you mean?
[04:46] <Bashing-om> raul782: Let me work up the next .. be back soonest .
[04:46] <tomed> exfat has no permissions like ntfs
[04:46] <tomed> so no overhead
[04:47] <raul782> Bashing-om: So pretty much I should remove all kernels 2.*, 3.* and 4.* except for 4.4.0.47
[04:47] <raul782> Bashing-om: does that make sense?
[04:47] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok I'll wait for your instructions
[04:48] <tominator> tomed, Well, in my personal experience, I have not had any luck using ExFAT with linux. It simply does not have the capability; although I have seen recovery discs with the ability to run with ExFAT
[04:49] <fay4596> hey
[04:49] <fay4596> i'm so sorry, any body here?
[04:49] <Bashing-om> raul782: That is the problem, you went behind the package manager's back abd removed the kernels .. and left all the sypport files . no we go back and remove the support files . and have the system then geal it;s self at the proper time .
[04:49] <tominator> fay4596, Hello
[04:50] <kostkon> !ask | fay4596
[04:51] <knot> how to resize partition, i am using gparted,but the patition i have to resize does not show the unmount option.can anybody help me
[04:52] <tominator> knot, is the partition part of your main HDD?
[04:53] <kostkon> knot: did you click on it to select it?
[04:53] <Bashing-om> raul782: ' sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-{13,14,15,17,18,19}{,-generic} ; sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.11.0-{13,14,15,17,18,19}* '
[04:53] <knot> tominator, i have severaL partition in main HDD
[04:53] <knot> i right click it but the option is not there
[04:54] <raul782> Bashing-om: Ok I ran that command, but I get cannot remove different files, because read-only file system
[04:54] <fay4596> thanks ubottu & tominator, i'm a newbie. Can u help me for more Effective use at irssi
[04:54] <knot> kostkon: i have select it to unmount first
[04:54] <kostkon> knot: it should be a button in the toolbar I think
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !details | fay4596,
[04:55] <tominator> knot, Last I checked, (I may be wrong),  you cannot modify the Operating System's disk while it is booted to that Operating System. Again, I could be mistaken.
[04:55] <cfhowlett> cannot and should not even try!
[04:56] <cfhowlett> knot, in other words, you need to boot ubuntu from your USB stick, then start gparted, navigate to your OS and repartition
[04:56] <tominator> knot, try to use a recovery disc, like an Ubuntu Live CD or Hirens Boot Disk
[04:56] <raul782> Bashing-om: should I reboot and try to remove these files from a maintenance mode?
[04:56] <kostkon> knot: the mount / amount that is
[04:56] <fay4596> nice very helpful, big thanks..
[04:56] <jaith> hello all. I have a question about starting and stopping backgrounded processes.
[04:56] <knot> kostkon: in other partition it is showing, but the partiton i have to resize it shows some red circle after /dev/sda15 in gparted
[04:57] <kostkon> knot: typing on a phone, sorry for the tuppo and errors
[04:57] <kostkon> typos*
[04:57] <jaith> I have two long-running processes I'd like to start: a dumpcap command to catch network packets and an inotifywait command to monitor file activity. I'd like to start both of these, run another process, and then halt both of them. I know I could background them one at a time and then kill using kill -9 but that seems ugly
[04:57] <knot> kostkon: its ok
[04:58] <tominator> fay4596,  Just try using it. I have learned everything from experience.
[04:58] <tominator> ooop
[04:58] <jaith> can anyone suggest a way to start dumpcap, background it, start inotifywait, background it, run my main script, then return to inotifywait and dumpcap and halt them?
[04:59] <Bashing-om> raul782: Ouch ! NO . we do not want in this instanace to worl from recovery unless we have to , read only file system really puts a kink n things, I got to re-consider what to do !
[05:00] <kostkon> knot: a screenshot would be helpful
[05:01] <knot> kostkon: i am doing the same thing, can you tell me any link where can i paste
[05:02] <kostkon> !screenshot
[05:02] <victor> jaith: what about using tmux/screen?
[05:02] <jaith> victor: I think I've heard of screen
[05:03] <jaith> victor: no man pages...will search...
[05:03] <Bashing-om> tominator: I be a while with raul782 . Let's make sure in the meantime your situation is not as dire . check that 'ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ; ls -al /boot/ ; dpkg -l | grep linix- ' all are in aggrement versions wise .. all match . if so we can sic 'dpkg" on your installed kerenls .
[05:03] <jaith> !screen
[05:04] <knot> kostkon,tominator  http://imgur.com/a/GID5M
[05:04] <tominator> Bashing-om, I'll do that now
[05:05] <knot> i want to resize /dev/sda15
[05:05] <jaith> victor: does this look like the right Ubuntu package:      screen - terminal multiplexer with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation
[05:05] <raul782> Bashing-om: I reboot and the system did a forced disc check with fsck, it fixed a few bad blocks and now I'm able to remove all the supporting files form the kernel
[05:05] <tominator> Bashing-om, How would I know if anything is out of the ordinary?
[05:06] <Bashing-om> raul782: I see no better thing to do than to try from recovery .. we will then have to remount the file system . once booted to "root" remount with ' mount -o remount,rw / ' (Note there is no space after the comma.) // once there we start all over .
[05:06] <victor> jaith: i use tmux these days but yeah that looks like the right package for screen
[05:06] <knot> kostkon:ping
[05:08] <Bashing-om> raul782: K .. on fsck . we start all over .
[05:08] <victor> jaith: with either multiplexer, open 3 virtual consoles, launch process 1 in #1, 2 in #2, 3 in #3
[05:08] <victor> jaith: switch between consoles with mod-key + n (ctrl-a for screen, ctrl-b for tmux by default)
[05:09] <victor> jaith: then stop each process when you're done
[05:09] <Bashing-om> tominator: All the directorues should agree .. in each and every version of every file installed . if there are any differences we do it the hard way too .
[05:09] <knot> can somebody help me please
[05:09] <jaith> victor: hmm. screen is tricky. gonna take some getting used to
[05:09] <jaith> victor: thank you
[05:11] <tominator> Bashing-om, Aight, so it looks like 'Linux-Headers-3.16.0-72' are the only consistent versions across those three dirs.
[05:12] <Bashing-om> raul782: Starting over " show a new pastebins in this order for me ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ls -al /boot/ ; dpkg -l | grep linux- '.
[05:12] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok, give me on sec
[05:12] <Bashing-om> tominator: Yuk .. so let me get raul782 fixed yp and we return to your situation and do it the bad way too .
[05:13] <tominator> Bashing-om, Sounds good to me. I have no idea how it got this way XD
[05:14] <kostkon> knot: you probably need to use a livecd because it is a lvm partition http://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume
[05:16] <raul782> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566351/
[05:16] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566354/
[05:16] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566355/
[05:16] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566356/
[05:16] <raul782> Bashing-om: all urls paste
[05:17] <Bashing-om> raul782: Thamks .. give me a few to re-look .
[05:18] <raul782> Bashing-om: Thanks to you
[05:18] <jaith> victor: I think I'm getting the hang of it. what does it mean to detach/reattach a screen?
[05:19] <Bashing-om> raul782: The only kernel installed now I see is " 4.4.0-47 " . Confirm that you are booting that kernel ; ' uname -r ' .
[05:20] <knot> kostkon:thanks
[05:20] <raul782> Bashing-om: yes
[05:21] <knot> kostkon:how much time it take to shrink
[05:21] <raul782> Bashing-om: 4.4.0-47-generic
[05:22] <Bashing-om> raul782: K. I do not know what I am looking at .. once more pastenin ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ' .
[05:25] <raul782> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566351/ -> ls -al /usr/src
[05:26] <raul782> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566354/ -> ls -al /lib/modules
[05:27] <Bashing-om> raul782: I do not find the /usr/src/ output as acceptable .. not even close to the format I expect . Try again .
[05:29] <raul782> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566385/ -> ls -al /usr/src
[05:30] <raul782> are there some core folders missing?
[05:33] <Bashing-om> raul782: As is now .. There has been a ton of files removed from that of the 1st outputs . .. if all that is left in all the directorues is the 4.4.0-47 . Then we are ready to have the system heal it's self . But I do not know how all those files up and disappeared .
[05:35] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[05:35] <raul782> Bashing-om: well, when I was following your instructions, I kind of removed everything not related to the latest kernel to speed up the things :(
[05:37] <Bashing-om> raul782: K .. we need now to get that 4.4.0.51.54 installed . show me once more ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . make sure that the meta package to get the -41 kernel is in place .
[05:37] <tominator> Bashing-om, I'm going to head to bed. The OS is still functioning,, so it isn't urgent. I'll check back later. Thank you for the help and please pass along my many thanks to cfhowlett!
[05:38] <raul782> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566398/
[05:38] <Bashing-om> tominator: We be here tomorrow . And get your system happy .
[05:38] <tominator> Thank you!
[05:42] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok how can I upgrade to kernel 51.54 if I can't use apt upgrade
[05:45] <LibertyWeNeed> I am thinking of switching back to ubuntu after my college semester ends. Because I don't like Windows 10. Although I am unsure if I will be able to use this TV antenna I bought online if I do. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there any Free Software I can run on Ubuntu to use this?
[05:45] <LibertyWeNeed> This is the product: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Digital-USB-TV-FM-DAB-DVB-T-RTL2832U-R820T-Support-SDR-Tuner-Receiver-Free-Shipping/32661367598.html
[05:48] <Triffid_Hunter> LibertyWeNeed: https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/RealTek_RTL2832U may be informative, also http://superkuh.com/rtlsdr.html
[05:48] <LibertyWeNeed> Triffid_Hunter, Thank you
[05:50] <Jordan_U> LibertyWeNeed: Will probably work out of the box with Ubuntu 16.04 or 16.10. For software you have many options, among them MythTV and Kodi (formerly XBMC).
[05:50] <LibertyWeNeed> Fantastic!
[05:52] <LibertyWeNeed> Has Ubuntu fixed up their privacy issues with amazon yet? Because I am thinking of switching back on my laptop to ubuntu.
[05:52] <LibertyWeNeed> I don't want all my search terms to be sent to amazon or anywhere else
[05:57] <Bashing-om> raul782: OK .. clean up ' sudo apt purge linux-headers-2.6.38-11{,-generic} ; sudo apt purge inux-image-2.6.38-{8,10,11} ' . As a place to start this .
[05:57] <nico___> hello
[05:57] <kevinb22> hello all, I need some help. I was just in ubuntu server 16.04 LTS setting up Samba share and i cannot boot back into ubuntu https://gyazo.com/46ba0ae2c8c9c6e67e45e4b2456769f1
[05:58] <kevinb22> ^i get that far then server restarts
[05:58] <Bashing-om> raul782: typo: sudo apt purge linux-headers-2.6.38-11{-generic}  ......... an ectra comma was left in the former .
[05:59] <nico___> why ubuntu has doc less than debian
[06:00] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok working on that
[06:00] <nico___> dwong
[06:00] <kevinb22> anyone?
[06:00] <nico___> yes
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> !samba | kevinb22
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> nico___: doc less?
[06:02] <kevinb22> ubottu: Thank you however i believe the issue is not with samba, i cannot boot anymore into ubuntu getting a " pci 0000:08:00.0: PCI Bridge to [bus 09]"
[06:03] <Bashing-om> raul782: Pich I was correct thje 1st time ! sudo apt purge linux-headers-2.6.38-11{,-generic} .
[06:06] <raul782> Bashing-om: Removed this linux-headers-2.6.38-11{,-generic}
[06:06] <LibertyWeNeed> Is there a way to play Grand.Theft.Auto.V on ubuntu?
[06:06] <raul782> Bashing-om: however I had to this in this way, dpkg --purge --force-depends linux-headers-2.6.38-11{,-generic}, otherwise it was bringing the other kernels 4.4
[06:06] <knot> Is there any way to copy all bookmark into a file?
[06:07] <AKutsan> Hi, I am trying to test IRC
[06:07] <AKutsan> Wonderful technology, why it is not popular today?
[06:08] <knot> please can anyone answer
[06:10] <Bashing-om> raul782: Whatever we have to do .. we got to get rid of all except the 4.4.0-47-generic kernel . then back to trying to install the latest kernel .. such that the -47 becomes the backup kernel with booting -51 .
[06:10] <AKutsan> @knot what browser do you use?
[06:11] <knot> firefox
[06:12] <achejq> chromium
[06:12] <Bashing-om> raul782: Make sure that you keep " linux-generic linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic " !
[06:12] <AKutsan> @knot  http://i.imgur.com/v55jVsF.png
[06:13] <AKutsan> Import And Backup
[06:15] <Freman> this will make someone rage - php7.1 just came out, I can has PPA? (not a serious question but that's basically the request that just came to me from management - my response "You haven't finished migrating to 7.0"
[06:17] <raul782> Bashing-om: How do I confirm that these kernels headers have been removed, linux-headers-2.6.38-11{,-generic}
[06:17] <raul782> Bashing-om: I say this, because there are a lot of kernel that I have to remove
[06:17] <levlaz> join #python
[06:17] <raul782> Bashing-om: Do i have to run dpkg -l | grep linux-?
[06:17] <knot> AKutsan: thankyou
[06:18] <Bashing-om> raul782: Yeah . I find that command the more informative .
[06:21] <raul782> So rc means that it wa removed correct?
[06:21] <raul782> Bashing-om: Should I see a change from ii to rc ?
[06:23] <Bashing-om> raul782: Order of operations becomes important run as ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image - sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra - sudo dpkg -P linux-image - sudo dpkg -P linux-headers . /. Yes rc is fine .. we will clean that up at the very last stage . (r)emoved but (c)onfig files remain .
[06:24] <raul782> Bashing-om: does the dpkg -l automatically updates
[06:25] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, I as afk.  since he was so full, could he clear out /boot from the live system or did this require a USB boot?
[06:25] <raul782> Bashing-om: I'm seeing ii on a linux-header that I've already removed
[06:27] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: tom** gave up waiting on me . we will pick it back up tomorrow . Looks like he too went behind the package managers back and broke the system .
[06:27] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, so using sudo apt-get breaks things?!  disappointing
[06:27] <raul782> Bashing-om: what does rH means?
[06:27] <ov3rwatch> what package contains the ifup command
[06:28] <Bashing-om> raul782: dpkg -l where th l os (l)ist . so not will not install .
[06:29] <Bashing-om> raul782: rH is a problem .. where the packes is to be removed but is still  (H)alf installed .
[06:30] <raul782> Bashing-om: thanks $man dpkg-query
[06:31] <Bashing-om> raul782:  that is what sold me on linux .. the man pages ! Nice to have documentation right on the system .
[06:31] <raul782> Bashing-om: true that
[06:45] <Bashing-om> raul782: Smoke break .. back soonest ; indulge in my nasty habit .
[06:48] <raul782> Bashing-om: no problem, I'm doing good progress
[06:48] <raul782> Thanks
[06:56] <Bashing-om> raul782: Back . still goes well ? Some yet to do when all the /boot is cleaned up .
[07:08] <icon_>  /me
[07:10] <lenswipee> Hi, I cannot open pdf document in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:11] <nugroho> Xpdf
[07:12] <lenswipee> 16.04 doesn't come with a pdf reader by default?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> it does
[07:12] <cfhowlett> evince
[07:13] <lenswipee> why does evince not work then
[07:13] <cfhowlett> try a different file
[07:15] <CodeHunterEx> I am running lubuntu and I have the taskbar to auto hide.  There is a major problem (at least for me).  When I click on an item (example the wifi icon) a list pops down, but as soon as the taskbar vanishes so does the menu that was there.  Can that be fixed?
[07:16] <CodeHunterEx> I could keep the taskbar always on but I prefer to hide it.
[07:16] <raul782> Bashing-om: I was able to remove any issue on the package manager
[07:16] <raul782> Bashing-om: Then I did sudo apt upgrade
[07:16] <raul782> and it installed everything.
[07:17] <raul782> however, when when it was about to upgrade the linux kernel 51
[07:17] <raul782> it errored out
[07:17] <raul782> Bashing-om: I've deleted it again as I did before manually, because it
[07:17] <raul782> didn't want to be removed nicely
[07:18] <raul782> Bashing-om: anyway, I've just rebooted but still I'm being redirected to the emergency mode
[07:21] <CodeHunterEx> Does anyone know if this is a glitch that can be fixed?
[07:22] <uno> anyone?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> !ask | uno
[07:22] <Bashing-om> raul782: Humm .. what is set to boot ' ls -al /vmlinuz* ; ls -al /initrd.img* ' ?
[07:23] <uno> Anyone know that how can i use ubuntu core to install on raspberry pi 3?
[07:23] <CodeHunterEx> Show I try and re-phrase my question on one line?
[07:23] <uno> the official snappy does not work for me
[07:23] <_x00> fuck intel and their video drivers on skylake
[07:23] <cfhowlett> CodeHunterEx, yes but hold repeats to 15 minute intervals
[07:23] <cfhowlett> _x00, drop the profanity now.
[07:23] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[07:23] <SynfulAck> Hey, does the ubuntu installer leave any logs indicating what magic it did with automatic partitioning?
[07:24] <CodeHunterEx> Thank you cfhowlett
[07:24] <_x00> im having problems running 1440p on skylake
[07:24] <_x00> :X
[07:24] <_x00> screen tearing is real
[07:24] <_x00> lol
[07:24] <_x00> $ inxi -G
[07:24] <_x00> Graphics:  Card: Intel Sky Lake Integrated Graphics
[07:24] <_x00>            Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 driver: intel
[07:24] <_x00>            Resolution: 2560x1440@59.95hz
[07:24] <_x00>            GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2)
[07:24] <_x00>            GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !paste | _x00
[07:25] <SynfulAck> lol
[07:25] <Bashing-om> _x00: What release are you running , and is the hybrid graphics ?
[07:25] <x0g> heya
[07:26] <x0g> I just deleted the Windows 7 Partition, my Ubuntu install is on sda4 extended
[07:26] <_x00> lol rate limited
[07:26] <x0g> how can I add the unallocated space to it?
[07:26] <_x00> I'm not running hybrid graphics
[07:26] <x0g> I need to re-align the partition to begging then resize?
[07:26] <raul782> Bashing-om: ls -al /vmlinuz* -> /vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinux-4.4.0-47-generic
[07:26] <xangua> x0g: backup, boot live ISO, gparted
[07:26] <x0g> beginning*
[07:26] <x0g> ohh ok
[07:26] <raul782> Bashing-om: ls -al /initrd-img* doesn't find any
[07:26] <path0gen> any gnuplot people here?
[07:27] <x0g> xangua, is GParted still part of the Ubuntu Live CD?
[07:27] <xangua> Always
[07:27] <x0g> kk, see ya in a few
[07:27] <path0gen> famous last words
[07:31] <Bashing-om> raul782: Uh Huh should be " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /initrd.img* >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Nov 30 11:32 /initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-103-generic " . try ' sudo update-initramfs -u -k 4.4.0-47-generic ' , See if we can rebuild the image file .
[07:35] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok
[07:37] <Bashing-om> raul782: Got to remount the file system 1st !
[07:38] <Bashing-om> raul782: ' mount -o remount,rw / ' .
[07:38] <efloid> what is the package to install sqlite3 ?
[07:39] <efloid> or its file-based and doesn't have an actual daemon?
[07:39] <romine> can you see me here
[07:39] <raul782> Bashing-om: wait a second, one question when running this command ls -al /initrd.img*, it meant to be ran from /boot
[07:39] <raul782> ?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu questions romine
[07:40] <lenswipee> why does this not work: sudo cd /usr/java/jre
[07:40] <romine> im trying to chat on ##chat and my messages cant get through
[07:41] <efloid> lenswipee: you need to su not sudo
[07:41] <Ben64> lenswipee: because it doesn't make sense
[07:41] <romine> "can not send to channel"
[07:41] <aib> what are my options for setting up nginx to work with python 3? python3-fcgi doesn't seem to exist.
[07:41] <Bashing-om> raul782: ls command can be ran from any where as the path is relational to / .
[07:42] <cfhowlett> romine, that is not an ubuntu channel.  ask freenode for assistance
[07:42] <lenswipee> Ben64, why doesn't it make sense?
[07:42] <lenswipee> efloid, su?
[07:42] <romine> okay
[07:42] <aib> lenswipee: cd is not a program
[07:42] <efloid> lenswipee: try it: su -
[07:42] <Triffid_Hunter> lenswipee: because cd is a shell internal command, and sudo opens a new shell
[07:42] <Ben64> lenswipee: su is incorrect also. sudo runs whatever you tell it to, then is done, so it changes directory, then drops back to your user, and you see no effect
[07:42] <efloid> lenswipee: or you can also sudo -i
[07:43] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok I thought you mistyped. I've proceeded to run the comand you suggest with initramfs but it gave me an error
[07:43] <Ben64> lenswipee: would help if you explained what you are trying to do
[07:43] <Bashing-om> raul782: Well, that ain't good . what is the error ?
[07:44] <raul782> Bashing-om: but probably is because I wasn't in maintenance mode. So I have to be in that mode right? I need to reboot
[07:44] <lenswipee> Ben64, I do not have permission to view that directory hence why I used sudo
[07:44] <Ben64> lenswipee: ok but what are you trying to do
[07:44] <Triffid_Hunter> lenswipee: no process can change the cwd of another process, so it's impossible for cd to be an executable.. if you sudo cd /somewhere, what happens is this: shell -> exec("sudo cd"); sudo -> exec("sh -c cd"), sh -> change directory, then read EOF and exit. sudo exits, shell starts waiting for more keyboard input.
[07:44] <Bashing-om> raul782: If ya in "maintanence mode" the system is read only .
[07:44] <lenswipee> Ben64, to change directory to view files in it
[07:44] <Triffid_Hunter> lenswipee: perhaps sudo -i first, then cd in your root shell
[07:44] <Ben64> lenswipee: not necessary. "sudo ls /usr/java/jre"
[07:45] <lenswipee> Ben64, why ls works but not CD
[07:45] <raul782> Bashing-om: So should I be in emergency mode! or maintenance mode?
[07:45] <Triffid_Hunter> lenswipee: because ls is executable
[07:45] <Ben64> lenswipee: because of reasons stated above
[07:45] <Triffid_Hunter> lenswipee: but cd *must be* a shell internal command or it can't work
[07:45] <Ben64> lenswipee: if you want to view files, ls is the way to do it
[07:46] <Ben64> cd doesn't view files, so it's unnecessary anyway
[07:47] <blackflow> aib: uwsgi
[07:48] <Bashing-om> raul782: Sorry to say all I kknow in 'buntu is the alternative of "recovery" to boot . I do not know what you mean by the terms you express.
[07:49] <NicolasPot> .
[07:50] <raul782> Bashing-om: When I try to reboot and access my regular session, Ubuntu always sends me to the terminal and in the header it says emergency mode! press enter to go in maintenance mode.
[07:50] <raul782> Bashing-om: I guess the other way to get into terminal is by choosing recovery mode from grub
[07:50] <raul782> Bashing-om: That's why I wasn't sure what option you meant
[07:51] <aib> blackflow: reading up on it now. seems like it would be riddled with bugs
[07:52] <blackflow> aib: how so? I've been using uwsgi with nginx for python for years for business critical apps
[07:52] <blackflow> aib: uwsgi is the de facto app server for python
[07:52] <aib> blackflow: I see
[07:53] <Bashing-om> raul782:  k; Well Must ne a systemd thing I have yet to encounter . Can not advise as this I do not know .
[07:53] <aib> blackflow: what I'm worried about is having to configure it. let's hope ubuntu has sane defaults, eh?
[07:54] <blackflow> aib: well yeah, you have to learn about and configure properly every complex software :)  uwsgi can do quite a lot and can't assume much out of the box.
[07:54] <blackflow> aib: but the examples for common scenarios are well documented.
[07:55] <aib> blackflow: well, I was hoping for more simple alternatives, to be honest. Hell, maybe I'll use CGI.
[07:56] <blackflow> aib: perhaps you could explain your use case better then. and don't forget python's own wsgiref http server, just two lines of code to get it going.
[07:57] <raul782> Bashing-om: ok I'll try to run it first from maintenance mode from my terminal
[07:57] <blackflow> aib: and then proxy from nginx to it, for paths it should respond to
[07:59] <aib> blackflow: well I'm building a small website. I'm thinking we'll do static HTML client + REST-like API on Python 3. I'm just testing the waters, really; I've only ever used python-fcgi on nginx for non-critical stuff
[08:01] <Bashing-om> raul782: The initramfs command is valid : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/live-update-initramfs.8.html .
[08:02] <aib> blackflow: I'll also be writing a GitHub webhook client (server?). Yes, it will be on the production machine and probably the same server as the website it contains. No architectural problems there, trust me. But I'm wondering whether I can just set up an "api" directory with python scripts next to "www" which nginx is serving
[08:05] <aib> blackflow: I'll probably be adding microservices to the website over the years. An option is putting an embedded webserver in each, adding them to systemd and having nginx proxy various paths to them. Another is having a server like uwsgi (with preferably other language plugins). Yet another is simply using CGI, everything be damned!
[08:07] <y_sekino> i would like to set an value to cr2 register, but is there any useful in-kernel api like set_cr2? and i also want to know how i can find an in-kernel api with not  grepping entire kernel code?
[08:07] <blackflow> aib: well first of all, nginx can't do cgi without an external app and if you have it, then why not go fcgi anyway. second, python has WSGI which is supported by nginx so why use something non native like fast cgi.
[08:08] <aib> blackflow: if I'm using nginx as a proxy, what's the point of using wsgiref as opposed to, say, Flask or cherrypy or any other embedded HTTP server?
[08:08] <blackflow> aib: if uwsgi is an overkill (and it isn't), then there are other app servers too. but uwsgi is to python what tomcat is to java.
[08:08] <blackflow> aib: there isn't any. I just gave wsgi ref as an example of most simple solution, in case it fits your use case
[08:09] <blackflow> btw Flask uses wsgiref
[08:09] <aib> blackflow: I see. Well, that's good to know, I didn't know uwsgi was that common. I guess I keep forgetting that I'm a Python beginner
[08:10] <aib> blackflow: I see (w.r.t. wsgiref). Makes sense
[08:10] <blackflow> aib: https://www.fullstackpython.com/wsgi-servers.html
[08:11] <Bashing-om> raul782: A simple test to make sure you are not in a read only mode : 'touch test ; ls -al test ' .
[08:11] <aib> blackflow: I'll give uwsgi a try. Fall back on custom/embedded HTTP services started with systemd and forwarded by nginx as a fallback
[08:12] <raul782> Bashing-om: yeah not in read-only mode
[08:12] <raul782> Bashing-om: after running initramfs I got the following error
[08:12] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235667
[08:13] <blackflow> aib: and it's well documented (use case of flask with uwsgi and nginx):  http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/0.11/deploying/uwsgi/
[08:13] <raul782> Bashing-om: Besides that error, there is one thing that pastebinit didn't capture
[08:13] <blackflow> aib: for more help, join #pocoo for flask questions or #uwsgi for uwsgi questions.
[08:13] <aib> blackflow: oh, and since we're on #ubuntu, is there anything you can tell me about the default configuration of uwsgi and uwsgi-plugin-python3? any gotchas?
[08:14] <raul782> Bashing-om: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/zz-busybox-initramfs: 45: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hoooks/zz-busybox-initramfs: cmp: not found
[08:14] <raul782> Bashing-om: that is repeated like 20 times or more
[08:14] <raul782> maybe that file is corrupted?
[08:14] <blackflow> aib: no specific gotchas. you drop a ini file under /etc/uwsgi/apps-available, symlink it to apps-enabled (just like with nginx or apache), and start the service :)
[08:15] <blackflow> aib: use the docs I linked above to set up the ini file
[08:15] <raul782> Bashing-om: it seems weird that I've been seeing that error during the whole afternoon
[08:16] <Bashing-om> raul782: Try : ' sido apt install --reinstall linux-image-4.4.0-47-generic  ' . What results ?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> *** sudo ***
[08:16] <aib> blackflow: will do, thanks
[08:17] <blackflow> aib: here's a good full stack tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-deploy-python-wsgi-applications-using-uwsgi-web-server-with-nginx
[08:17] <Bashing-om> raul782: sido/sudo* I have gottem real tired !
[08:18] <raul782> Bashing-om: thanks for your patience and help, I believe I'm about to go to sleep in a few minutes if I don't get this machine to boot properly
[08:19] <raul782> Bashing-om: Everything started in the morning, when my main disk drive started to have errors in the drive, which after running different times fsck, it got fixed
[08:19] <raul782> Bashing-om: I believe, maybe my drive is reaching EOL
[08:19] <cfhowlett> if so, expect to see i/o errors
[08:19] <cfhowlett> also, smartmontools should inform you
[08:19] <raul782> Bashing-om: However, when I ran smartctl the report didn't indicate such thing
[08:20] <Bashing-om> raul782: If it is not life threatening, and no blood is being spilt ... will keep to another day :)
[08:20] <raul782> Bashing-om: sure no problem, thanks a lot for your help
[08:20] <aib> blackflow: at this point you're linking me my own open tabs :)
[08:20] <raul782> Bashing-om: see you
[08:21] <aib> blackflow: very much appreciated, though :)
[08:21] <Bashing-om> raul782: Look, as you can not create a initrd.img file .. has to be kernel build related .
[08:22] <raul782> Bashing-om: got it, I'll dig on that for a few more minutes and then I'll go to sleep
[08:23] <Bashing-om> raul782: Are the headers installed for that kernel ?
[08:25] <blackflow> aib: that's good, means you found correct stuff :)
[08:26] <raul782> Bashing-om: By checking on dpkg -l, they are http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566737/
[08:27] <x0g> ehm after resizing the partition the boot is slow as hell
[08:27] <guanjian[m]> txdv:
[08:27] <guanjian[m]> 😊
[08:27] <x0g> I suspect it is due to removal of swap partition but I used fallocate to create a new one
[08:27] <x0g> and removed the UUID of the old swap file from the fstab
[08:27] <x0g> urgh
[08:32] <Bashing-om> raul782: Ouch ! I did say at least twice to make sure you keep " linux-generic , linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic " . reinstall them, then see if the situation does not improve .
[08:32] <raul782> ok
[08:35] <severusken> hello ?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu question severusken
[08:36] <novah> anybody seem this compile error before :grpc/objs/opt/src/compiler/cpp_plugin.o:(.data.rel.ro._ZTV16CppGrpcGenerator[_ZTV16CppGrpcGenerator]+0x28): undefined reference to `google::protobuf::compiler::CodeGenerator::GenerateAll(std::vector<google::protobuf::FileDescriptor const*, std::allocator<google::protobuf::FileDescriptor const*> > const&, std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, google::protobuf::compiler::Gener
[08:36] <novah> atorContext*, std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >*) const'
[08:36] <novah> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status  ?
[08:36] <novah> how to fix this ?
[08:37] <severusken> hmm i'm new to Kubuntu ,i'm figuring how to turn off the 'smooth' effects and improve the performance
[08:38] <novah> hello, nobody?
[08:38] <severusken> well,hello
[08:38] <Triffid_Hunter> novah: you aren't passing a library with that thing to your linker
[08:39] <\9> severusken: there's some preferences that you can set in the kde system settings in regards to that
[08:39] <x0g> Hey, can anyone read my question regarding the slow boot after partition resize?
[08:39] <x0g> Above ^
[08:39] <CaptainQuirk> Hi guys
[08:39] <severusken> thank you man
[08:39] <novah> Triffid_Hunter, which lib ?
[08:40] <\9> severusken: i would advise against using kubuntu if you don't have such a great pc, though. it's quite resource intensive and there are other flavors that are easier on your computer
[08:40] <CaptainQuirk> I've created a small repl for a command I'm using all the time
[08:40] <CaptainQuirk> autocompletion is available in the normal shell interpreter
[08:40] <CaptainQuirk> however, once I get inside the repl, autocompletion with <tab> no longer works
[08:41] <mMati111> Hi all, how can I replace default openssl installed in Ubuntu 14.04 using apt-get with built from source one?? How to do it properly ?
[08:41] <CaptainQuirk> What I wrote is based on this : https://github.com/tj/git-extras/blob/master/bin/git-repl
[08:41] <novah> Triffid_Hunter, i just compiled protobuf lib from source and succeeded
[08:41] <ikonia> mMati111: you don't do that
[08:42] <mMati111> ikonia: why??
[08:42] <ikonia> mMati111: because so much depends on openssl, you should trust the distribution to provide and maintain it
[08:42] <\9> mMati111: why on earth would you want to replace openssl anyway?
[08:43] <mMati111> I need 1.0.2j version with FIPS certification enabled in order to use it with my application,
[08:43] <mMati111> as shared library
[08:44] <ikonia> doesn't the ubuntu build privode fips support compiled in
[08:44] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure it does
[08:44] <mMati111> version is important too
[08:44] <ikonia> mMati111: why
[08:45] <mMati111> because that's the requirement given
[08:45] <ikonia> mMati111: you're aware ubuntu will backport fixes so the actual version string supplied by openssl -version doesn't actually matter
[08:46] <mMati111> Actually I'm not aware of it
[08:46] <ikonia> mMati111: you're also aware that j was only release in september, so no distro will actually have that too
[08:47] <ikonia> it sounds like whomever is making up your application "requirements" may not be in the real world as no-one is shipping that version, so how it can depend on something that no-one ships seems pretty odd
[08:47] <mMati111> meh I dont like it neither
[08:50] <mMati111> ikonia: I kind of dont understand it
[08:51] <ikonia> then talk to the requirement setting and explain it's not a real world situation
[08:51] <mMati111> How that matter when you have latest version
[08:51] <mMati111> of library which is compatible with the old one
[08:51] <lenswipee> looks like sudo -i gives me root access
[08:51] <mMati111> and you cannot install it and use?
[08:52] <ikonia> lenswipee: correct
[08:52] <ikonia> mMati111: what are you actually talking about
[08:52] <ikonia> mMati111: you can install what you want
[08:52] <lenswipee> faster than typing sudo /bib/bash
[08:52] <lenswipee> faster than typing sudo /bin/bash
[08:52] <ikonia> lenswipee: you shouldn't type sudo /bin/bash
[08:52] <Triffid_Hunter> lenswipee: it's a bit different too, sudo -i gives a login shell whereas sudo bash doesn't
[08:52] <mMati111> ikonia: So what's the real problem with replacing it if I can install ?
[08:53] <ikonia> mMati111: you'll end up breaking things and causing conflicts with multiple packages
[08:53] <Ben64> lenswipee: and you should avoid getting into the habit of using 'sudo -i' ... it's mostly overkill and unnecessary
[08:53] <ikonia> mMati111: you have to be willing to commit to build and package the version you want and keep up to pace with all canonical package changes that depend on openssl
[08:54] <lenswipee> Ben64, how else to get permission to a folder I can't access
[08:54] <Triffid_Hunter> Ben64: depends what you're doing, I use it all the time when I need to do a whole bunch of things as root and don't want to type my password every 5 minutes
[08:54] <ikonia> Triffid_Hunter: then change the timeout of the sudo password
[08:54] <mMati111> ikonia: breaking things doesn't matter because it is only for application test purposes
[08:54] <ikonia> mMati111: carry on with it then
[08:54] <ikonia> enjoy your system not working
[08:54] <Ben64> lenswipee: like i told you 70 minutes ago, "sudo ls /usr/java/jre"
[08:55] <mMati111> ikonia: not working virtualbox is not sucha  big deal
[08:55] <lenswipee> Ben64, why does ls work but not cd?
[08:55] <\9> because cd is a shell built-in
[08:55] <Ben64> lenswipee: for the same reasons everyone was telling you 70 minutes ago
[08:55] <\9> "sudo cd" is not a thing
[08:55] <ikonia> mMati111: I disagree, if you cant maintain a test system, you won't be able to move this forward to a non-test system
[08:55] <ikonia> but again, thats up to you
[08:55] <mMati111> In real system, openssl will be in 1.0.2j version
[08:56] <lenswipee> \9 what you mean its not a thing?
[08:56] <ikonia> mMati111: no it won't
[08:56] <Ben64> lenswipee: if you want to list files in a directory, cd isn't even the right thing
[08:56] <ikonia> mMati111: as no-one is shipping it as I told you earlier
[08:56] <ikonia> it was only released in september
[08:56] <\9> lenswipee: sudo runs programs and cd is not a program. cd is a command built into bash
[08:56] <\9> lenswipee: sudo is a program itself
[08:56] <maja> any one know a graphical sftp client that will sync up directories ?
[08:56] <lenswipee> Ben64, i like to cd to the directory  before doing ls
[08:56] <Ben64> lenswipee: well, it's unnecessary
[08:56] <Ben64> faster to just ls in the first place
[08:56] <lenswipee> so cd is not a program
[08:57] <\9> you can type "which cd" to try find out cd's location, you can notice it returns nothing
[08:57] <\9> "man cd" also doesn't exist
[08:57] <Ben64> \9: psst, it does
[08:57] <maja> \9: coool nick
[08:57] <lenswipee> confusing how some things are commands and some things a programs. you'd think ls is a command
[08:57] <\9> ls is program
[08:58] <lenswipee> ok how to escalate permission in the gui without having to terminal and sudo?
[08:58] <rsv> I live in india and running ubuntu 16.04. My timezone is set to Asia/Kolkota. The time is showing 5 hours ahead
[08:59] <rsv> is there any issue with Ubuntu 16.04 time command not synching properly
[08:59] <\9> lenswipee: there's a small bunch of things that only exist as bash commands because they deal with the bash shell itself. "cd" affects your current shell, while "ls" reads a directory listing and prints it
[08:59] <linuxlite_> which IRC client should i use
[08:59] <\9> linuxlite_: whichever you like the most
[09:00] <linuxlite_> true
[09:00] <Bashing-om> raul782: Hey .. do not want to leave ya in a bind .. but I got to call it a night .
[09:00] <lenswipee> ok how to escalate permission in the gui instead of going to terminal and sudo?
[09:01] <\9> lenswipee: if it's just a home system you might as well launch the file manager as sudo
[09:02] <ikevin> lenswipee, gksudo
[09:02] <\9> just be aware of the implications :P
[09:02] <lenswipee> \9, how you do that?
[09:02] <Ben64> this isn't going to end well
[09:02] <lenswipee> and whats gksudo? that still in terminal
[09:03] <\9> gksudo is sudo except with a graphical prompt, you can use it with alt+f2
[09:03] <Ben64> couple days later -- hey guys i deleted everything using a root file manager
[09:03] <lenswipee> i want a gui experience like windows you can escalate permission prompt
[09:03] <\9> Ben64: that's what i mean with "be aware of the implications"...
[09:03] <\9> lenswipee: well what is the file manager you use? there's lots out there
[09:04] <\9> i'm using ubuntu mate so it'd be "gksudo caja" for me
[09:04] <lenswipee> im using ubuntu 16.04 so whatever that comes with
[09:05] <\9> i don't know what's the name of ubuntu's file manager
[09:06] <lenswipee> gksudo is not quite what i want. in windows you can force a prompt for admin password to do things
[09:07] <OerHeks> there must be a reason you need sudo, so make a launcher that gives the passwordprompt > example http://www.cloudconsulted.com/cloud/linux-labs/custom-launcher-to-run-graphical-commands-as-root-in-ubuntu
[09:07] <OerHeks> = gksudo
[09:08] <lenswipee> OerHeks, how to make a launcher bro?
[09:09] <ikonia> i'd ask the other question
[09:09] <ikonia> why are you messing with files you don't have access to
[09:09] <ikonia> either a.) fix the permissions b.) stop messing with things you are not meant to have access to
[09:09] <OerHeks> ikonia +1 , that is why "you must have a reason .." plus that tutor is pretty simple
[09:09] <\9> mmh indeed
[09:09] <OerHeks> why should i copy paste?
[09:10] <lenswipee> ikonia, because ubuntu default install asks for permission to view /usr/java/jre even though i am admin so take it up with ubuntu developers
[09:10] <ikonia> lenswipee: no it doen't
[09:10] <ikonia> lenswipee: ubuntus default doesn't ask afor a password to anything
[09:10] <x0g> Any experienced user here? I need assistance with slow boot after the partition resize, original swap is deleted and commented out of fstab and new was added with fallocated and also added to fstab.
[09:10] <ikonia> lenswipee: you typing "sudo" asks you for a password
[09:11] <ikonia> lenswipee: and why are you doing things in /usr/java/jre - that is not a userspace area
[09:11] <x0g> systemd-analyze blame is not showing anything
[09:11] <theblazehen> x0g version?
[09:11] <x0g> 16.04 theblazehen
[09:11] <theblazehen> x0g systemd-analyze critical-chain
[09:11] <ikonia> x0g: remove the boot slash and watch the boot
[09:11] <lenswipee> ikonia, no it doesn't ask for permission it just doesn't give you permission by default
[09:11] <ikonia> lenswipee: right, because you are not mean to be in there
[09:12] <Ben64> lenswipee: you've still yet to explain what you are actually trying to accomplish
[09:12] <\9> lenswipee: what are you trying to accomplish by messing in /usr/java/jre?
[09:12] <lenswipee> ikonia, no admin can be everywhere
[09:12] <lenswipee> if i am admin i want to be able to view whatever shit i want
[09:12] <\9> sure, you can be everywhere with sudo. but often it's not such a great idea
[09:12] <ikonia> lenswipee: no it can't
[09:12] <ikonia> lenswipee: as you are showing
[09:12] <ikonia> lenswipee: please don't swear
[09:12] <x0g> theblazehen, thank you mate
[09:12] <ikonia> lenswipee: you don't need to be in that directory
[09:12] <ikonia> lenswipee: hence why it's protected
[09:12] <Ajxa_> Hi people, does anyone have a few minutes to help me before i trash the laptop :)
[09:12] <x0g> theblazehen, systemd-remount-fs.service is causing the 1 min delay on a SSD
[09:13] <lenswipee> ikonia, i need to be in there
[09:13] <ikonia> Ajxa_: just ask your question, if someone can and wants to, they will help
[09:13] <ikonia> lenswipee: hy
[09:13] <ikonia> why
[09:13] <x0g> Allow me a brief moment while I upload the output on the pastebin
[09:13] <theblazehen> x0g systemctl status systemd-remount-fs.service
[09:13] <lenswipee> ikonia, so i can stick java in there
[09:13] <ikonia> lenswipee: java is already in there
[09:13] <Ben64> that's not correct
[09:13] <ikonia> lenswipee: it gets installed via the package manager
[09:14] <ikonia> so again, you don't need to be in there
[09:14] <lenswipee> ikonia, java is in there because i sudo my ass in there
[09:14] <Ben64> you're doing it wrong
[09:14] <ikonia> lenswipee: then you're the problem
[09:14] <ikonia> lenswipee: fix your approach
[09:14] <lenswipee> again by default you can view in /usr
[09:14] <Ben64> java doesn't go in /usr/java at all
[09:14] <\9> lenswipee: are you saying that you created /usr/java/jre? that's not how it works
[09:14] <lenswipee> *cannot
[09:14] <x0g> theblazehen, http://pastebin.com/dGZVy53W
[09:14] <Ajxa_> Okay, so the problem that i have: Im installing over USB, and my only drive (ssd) refuses to mount to /sda.. /sda simply doesnt exist.. SSD got mounted to sdb and usb got mounted to sdc. Because of this i cant boot the system after installation without any kind of usb being plugged in the pc. I dont really know how to explain this very well so please ask questions :(
[09:14] <Ben64> by default you CAN view /usr
[09:15] <Ben64> sounds like you might have already broken things
[09:15] <lenswipee> well where you stick java then?
[09:15] <ikonia> lenswipee: you are the problem and you're basically creating more of a problem with user error
[09:15] <\9> lenswipee: install java the package manager.
[09:15] <Ben64> you don't "stick" anything anywhere
[09:15] <lenswipee> java.com says thats where you stick java
[09:15] <ikonia> lenswipee: you install it via the package manager and it distributes it correctly across the file system
[09:15] <goudkov> is there a way to display x session on another computer without using vnc? i want to share a third screen of my main computer with another computer. just for display, no input from that second computer. and vnc is really slow even over lan. so i'm trying to find some x solution with port forwarding or remote connection.
[09:16] <lenswipee> ikonia, well i didn't use a package manager
[09:16] <\9> well that's the root problem
[09:16] <ikonia> lenswipee: then use a package manager
[09:16] <ikonia> problem solved
[09:16] <lenswipee> ikonia, i download it from java.com and followed installation instructions
[09:16] <lenswipee> and java.com says stick it in /usr/java/jre/etc
[09:16] <OerHeks> Always use openJDK, not the oracle blob if you can
[09:17] <theblazehen> x0g systemd-analyze blame and cat /etc/fstab
[09:17] <ikonia> lenswipee: then don't do that
[09:17] <ikonia> lenswipee: use the package manager
[09:17] <ikonia> problem solved
[09:17] <\9> java.com is giving you bad advice
[09:17] <lenswipee> java shouls know where to stick java
[09:17] <\9> you shouldn't be messing around in system directories if you don't know what you're doing
[09:17] <lenswipee> lol
[09:17] <x0g> theblazehen, any progress? Or should just reinstall as this is a new system anywas
[09:17] <ikonia> lenswipee: the package manager is there to provide easy installation of supported software
[09:18] <ikonia> lenswipee: use the package manager
[09:18] <lenswipee> ikonia, package manager is for noobs. i use terminal and sudo
[09:18] <Ben64> java.com says "Note: For downloading Java other flavors of Linux see Java for Ubuntu" which links to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java which says to install it using the package manager
[09:18] <x0g> lold
[09:18] <theblazehen> x0g it should be relatively simple, but in that case you can just reinstall. Just cat/etc/fstab first I think
[09:19] <ikonia> lenswipee: bye then
[09:19] <theblazehen> cat /etc/fstab*
[09:19] <ikonia> lenswipee: you don't know what to do - yet you call others "noobs" for using supported tools
[09:19] <ikonia> lenswipee: no point getting help here then - bye
[09:19] <Ajxa_> my turn my turn :D
[09:19] <lenswipee> everyone knows you use terminal if your a pro :)
[09:20] <lenswipee> lol@package manager
[09:20] <x0g> theblazehen, http://pastebin.com/DE66SQjh
[09:20] <ikonia> lenswipee: everyone knows you don't ask "how do I change directory" if you are a pro
[09:20] <\9> such a silly guy, as if you can't use the package manager from the terminal...
[09:21] <theblazehen> x0g maybe do a reinstall. May be partition alignment, quicker to reinstall than fix
[09:21] <x0g> yeah ,already downloading the Arch iso
[09:22] <theblazehen> x0g Yeah! Go Arch!
[09:22] <x0g> but thank you for your time, I really appreciate it theblazehen
[09:22] <Ajxa_> i dont want to spam..but since yall write 1000 lines a sec ill repost my issue so people can see it again
[09:22] <Ajxa_> Okay, so the problem that i have: Im installing over USB, and my only drive (ssd) refuses to mount to /sda.. /sda simply doesnt exist.. SSD got mounted to sdb and usb got mounted to sdc. Because of this i cant boot the system after installation without any kind of usb being plugged in the pc. I dont really know how to explain this very well so please ask questions :(
[09:22] <theblazehen> x0g glad to try to help
[09:22] <\9> Ajxa_: it's /dev/sda, not /sda
[09:22] <x0g> theblazehen, Ubuntu was nice and I messed it up with the resize so this one is on me, I just too used to CentOS hehe
[09:23] <Ajxa_> honestly.. i know what it is..
[09:23] <theblazehen> x0g yeah. Tried fedora (rawhide perhaps) then?
[09:23] <\9> Ajxa_: oh wait i get it now. so your ssd is sdb and usb is sdc
[09:24] <x0g> theblazehen, yeah but on a dektop it's a real hassle to get the fonts to look nice on my box and some other tweaks that pissed me off a little
[09:24] <Ajxa_> yep, and under sda there is nothing mounted.. nothing shows up anywhere.. /proc/partitions list only the sdb and sdc parts
[09:24] <\9> Ajxa_: that shouldn't be a problem because the filesystems are mounted based on device UUID, not dev labels
[09:24] <x0g> theblazehen, but that is most likely a case of PEBKAC
[09:24] <x0g> :P\
[09:24] <\9> Ajxa_: exactly where does booting fail if the usb is not plugged in?
[09:24] <theblazehen> x0g yeah. Arch is a lot easier for me imo
[09:25] <x0g> theblazehen, odd rnough same , here
[09:25] <Ajxa_> well grub loader loads up, i can select the installation or recovery mode
[09:25] <Ajxa_> then it tries booting the system... stalls for about 10-15 secs
[09:25] <Ajxa_> and drops me to a shell
[09:25] <x0g> theblazehen, it just works. I wanted to try ubuntu due to VMware Horizon client
[09:25] <\9> what kind of shell?
[09:25] <x0g> theblazehen, but I'll try it on Arch
[09:25] <\9> Ajxa_: is the shell still grub?
[09:26] <Ajxa_> initdr? i might have read it wrong
[09:26] <theblazehen> x0g You may find a docker container for that if it's not in the aur / main repos
[09:26] <theblazehen> Ajxa_ initrd
[09:26] <x0g> theblazehen, yeah , you're right. Totally forgot about it
[09:26] <\9> okay so i guess grub fails to launch the system
[09:27] <Ajxa_> yeah, and if i have any kind of USB plugged in.. it boots okay
[09:27] <\9> it looks like grub first tries to launch it from sdb (where it apparently is not) and then finds it by UUID
[09:28] <Ajxa_> but if grub is installed to sdb, and it tries to boot sdb, i dont understand why it failes
[09:28] <\9> okay well is it anyhow possible that you accidentally installed ubuntu onto your usb drive?
[09:28] <theblazehen> Ajxa_ probably trying to load by device name (sda etc) rather than UUID
[09:28] <\9> theblazehen: if it fails, grub should try to find the device by UUID
[09:28] <Ajxa_> nah im sure it installed to the ssd
[09:29] <Ajxa_> did the reinstall like 50 times
[09:29] <\9> okay
[09:29] <Ajxa_> furthermore, why is sda not used at all?
[09:29] <Ajxa_> it just plain skips it
[09:29] <Ajxa_> and goes to sdb
[09:29] <ducasse> Ajxa_: does it drop you to a grub shell or a busybox hell?
[09:30] <ducasse> busybox shell :)
[09:30] <Ajxa_> crap im not sure, i have to check im 80% sure it is the busybox
[09:30] <\9> Ajxa_: the names are chosen pretty arbitrarily. the names really shouldn't matter
[09:30] <Ajxa_> yeah i know, but isnt sda the first mount point_
[09:30] <\9> usually
[09:30] <ducasse> Ajxa_: then i would think the kernel root=... parameter might be set incorrectly
[09:31] <Ajxa_> how can i mitigate that ducasse
[09:33] <_28_ria> hello, ubuntu 16.04 amd64. During boot, I've got a boot picture hanging forever. I switched to a console (ctrl+alt+f2), and see a message, saying A start job is running for hold until boot process finishes up (shows passed time / no limit). I left it stay for 2 of hours. It didn't go anywere. Pressing <enter> or <esc> didn't do anything. ctrl-alt-del reboots. After rebooting, the samething happens
[09:33] <ducasse> Ajxa_: i'm unsure where that is picked up from, fstab maybe?
[09:33] <ducasse> Ajxa_: try booting from usb and pastebin the fstab
[09:33] <_28_ria> ...but, I can ssh to it and do anything in the console.
[09:34] <Ajxa_> i think i saw in dmesg something like sda attached scsi removable disk
[09:35] <Ajxa_> one sec let me fetch the fstab
[09:38] <Ajxa_> lol now when booting the live usb i get the > Mounting /dev/sda1 on /live/medium failed > Invalid argument FAT-fs sda1 io charset ascii not found
[09:38] <Ajxa_> so now it tries using sda
[09:40] <ducasse> Ajxa_: is this an uefi system?
[09:42] <Ajxa_> yeah i believe so, although i boot the non-efi version
[09:42] <huwjr> heya, is it possible to run Nagios on the “ubuntu on windows” implementation?
[09:42] <ducasse> !ubuwin | huwjr
[09:42] <xmj> moin
[09:43] <xmj> how well does google Hangouts (incl. webcam+screensharing+yadda yadda) run on Ubuntu?
[09:43] <TeKKiE> ^Just fine
[09:43] <huwjr> thanks but i’m pretty sure a lot more than 17people have used ubuwin :p
[09:43] <huwjr> i’ll try all the same
[09:43] <Triffid_Hunter> haha they're doing reverse wine?
[09:44] <xmj> TeKKiE: on 16.04/10 ?
[09:44] <TeKKiE> Was wondering if Windows is finally ditching the "DOS" based architecture for it's own linux based archtype, that'd be cool
[09:44] <TeKKiE> xmj: I'm currently on 16.04
[09:44] <huwjr> No not reverse wine
[09:44] <huwjr> nothing like it
[09:44] <xmj> TeKKiE: cool
[09:45] <huwjr> native ubuntu running a bit like a chroot, but with shims for kernel level stuff rather than recompiled linux packages for windows
[09:45] <xmj> TeKKiE: much as i <3 freebsd, not having hangouts . . . is a large deficit in some areas
[09:45] <TeKKiE> Honestly I don't much use it, but it's capable.
[09:46] <huwjr> hangouts?
[09:46] <huwjr> as in google hngouts?
[09:46] <xmj> yes
[09:46] <huwjr> use pidgin
[09:46] <huwjr> ^_^
[09:46] <TeKKiE> Yes pidgin is by far better
[09:46] <xmj> does it do screenshare?
[09:46] <TeKKiE> Eh well that I do not know
[09:46] <huwjr> no but VNC/Screen does?:p
[09:46] <xmj> I was told "get screenshare running ASAP." - so Skype/Hangouts is the obvious solution
[09:47] <xmj> "obvious"
[09:47] <TeKKiE> hmm
[09:47] <TeKKiE> screw skype
[09:47] <TeKKiE> screenshare can be managed with teamviewer too
[09:47] <TeKKiE> Which I also use
[09:48] <xmj> well, depending on whom you're working with
[09:48] <ikevin> TVW is often unavaillable
[09:51] <blackflow> xmj: busted :)
[09:51] <xmj> blackflow: :3
[09:51] <blackflow> xmj: ;)
[10:07] <dogsBreath> ubuntu zenophobia who is on it?
[10:11] <MrCucumber> hey guys how do I install downloaded software on Ubunut?
[10:11] <MrCucumber> im too much of an imbecile to figure this out?
[10:12] <Ben64> MrCucumber: what software
[10:12] <MrCucumber> umm just a game
[10:12] <Ben64> follow the instructions
[10:13] <MrCucumber> there is an instructions file?
[10:13] <Ben64> idk
[10:13] <intx> what game?
[10:13] <MrCucumber> the game is second life
[10:14] <intx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/579806/how-to-install-second-life
[10:14] <dogsBreath> i'd be pleased with a first one
[10:16] <dogsBreath> i'd be pleased to be able to go into the street and not be attacked by drug addict
[10:17] <dogsBreath> *accosted
[10:18] <MrCucumber> thanks intx!
[10:30] <ImUs3r> what vncserver is good?
[10:32] <OerHeks> ImUs3r, 'good' as in safe ??
[10:32] <ImUs3r> i use tightvncserver, but i can’t use gui app.
[10:32] <ImUs3r> OerHeks:
[10:33] <MrCucumber> Why do they make this stuff so confusing for us idiots
[10:33] <ImUs3r> GTK+ failed to initialize. Is X running?
[10:34] <ikevin> iirc, vnc is not secure, some client can connect with password bypass
[10:34] <ImUs3r> but i want to use gui app ikevin
[10:35] <Ben64> explain exactly what you want to do and what the situation is
[10:35] <ImUs3r> GTK+ failed to initialize. Is X running? Ben64
[10:35] <Ben64> that's not what i asked for
[10:37] <ImUs3r> i want to use GUI with vnc, but i can’t do it with tightvncserver.
[10:37] <faekjarz> Hey there! Please help me with my thought experiment: Lets say I'd want to set up a Ubuntu server 16.04 based router gateway caching proxy appliance type box. I'd want to rename my Ethernet interfaces into something (more) reasonable, e.g. WAN0, WAN1, LAN, WLAN, GUEST,… - how would I do that? (udev?)
[10:37] <OerHeks> what guide did you use?
[10:38] <ikevin> ImUs3r, your X server is running? does DISPLAY var is defined?
[10:38] <MrCucumber> I found the idiot proof way of doing it!!
[10:38] <MrCucumber> http://jollyjef.com/run-or-install-secondlife-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[10:39] <someone235> Hi, I can't see my usb in df -h. How can I detect the problem?
[10:39] <ImUs3r> ikevin: how can i know it?
[10:40] <ikevin> X is the display server, for DISPLAY var you can check with echo $DISPLAY
[10:40] <ImUs3r> nothing ikevin
[10:40] <_28_ria> hello, ubuntu 16.04 amd64. During boot, I've got a boot picture hanging forever. I switched to a console (ctrl+alt+f2), and see a message, saying A start job is running for hold until boot process finishes up (shows passed time / no limit). I left it stay for 2 of hours. It didn't go anywere. Pressing <enter> or <esc> didn't do anything. ctrl-alt-del reboots. After rebooting, the samething happens
[10:40] <_28_ria> ...but, I can ssh to it and do anything in the console.
[10:40] <Snowie> someone235: I assume it's a usb flash drive if you're trying to view it in df -h?
[10:41] <someone235> Snowie, yes. Sorry for not mentioning it
[10:41] <ikevin> ImUs3r, try: DISPLAY=:0 tightvncserver
[10:41] <Snowie> someone235: np, just checking. When you plug it in, does it show up in the file explorer?
[10:42] <someone235> Snowie, no
[10:42] <Snowie> someone235: ok, so that's what you're trying to fix. try the usb on another machine if possible, and/or try another usb drive and see if they work first.
[10:43] <Snowie> someone235: if you can't do that, look for "how to automatically mount usb drives on ubuntu"
[10:43] <someone235> Snowie, it works in another machine
[10:45] <ImUs3r> thakns ikevin i can do it. but what is tha command?
[10:45] <ImUs3r> DISPLAY=:0 tightvncserver
[10:46] <Snowie> someone235: ok, run $ lsusb and see if it appears there
[10:46] <ikevin> ImUs3r, software who use graphic env need to have the DISPLAY var defined (:0 is the default graphic env)
[10:46] <someone235> Snowie, it doesn't
[10:47] <ImUs3r> thaks ikevin :)
[10:47] <Snowie> someone235: how many usb ports do you have? can you try another?
[10:47] <ikevin> ImUs3r, if you have multiple graphic env (multi seat), it can be :1, :2, ...
[10:47] <huayra> Can somebody please ban www-bukolay-net ? Everytime I join this channel is sends me a hi with that url
[10:48] <someone235> Snowie, I feel so stupid, Thank you :)
[10:48] <someone235> it works
[10:48] <OerHeks> !ops | confirmed, www-bukolay-net spam
[10:49] <Snowie> someone235: np. Sounds like your a usb port down though :(
[10:49] <someone235> Snowie, yes. Unfortunately, I don't have time to send it to the lab :(
[11:18] <yocs0000> hi everybody! What client do you use for google doc?
[11:31] <knot> i am cloning git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git, can anybody tell me how much size it holds?
[11:33] <fruitbowl> sorry but where is the asterisk irc channel?
[11:34] <bazhang> #asterisk fruitbowl
[11:35] <fruitbowl> ok sorry about that and thanks
[11:36] <dxn> hello
[11:40] <yocs0000> hi everybody! What client do you use for google doc?
[11:45] <devnull84> chrome
[11:45] <King_Hual> browser
[11:45] <devnull84> derp
[11:45] <yocs0000> devnull84: derp?
[11:45] <devnull84> i derp time to time
[11:45] <devnull84> :
[11:45] <devnull84> :)
[12:12] <iresf> is it right that amd graphic does not work on ubuntu 16.04   ?
[12:22] <tripleheader> Hello
[12:22] <rightnow> I'm adding some cron to sudo crontab -e .. checking /var/log/syslog and it says: (CRON) error (can't fork). googling tells me nothing except low memory, and i have 2 gig free.
[12:23] <tripleheader> How can I add packages to ubuntu installer
[12:24] <tripleheader> I have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization but this seems too old
[12:24] <bazhang> tripleheader, did you mean remaster the installer
[12:24] <bazhang> tripleheader, instead of that why not use the mini install and build up from that
[12:24] <tripleheader> bazhang: yes remaster the installer to include some extra packagges
[12:25] <bazhang> which exact extras tripleheader
[12:25] <tripleheader> bazhang: I will be installing the iso offline
[12:26] <bazhang> tripleheader, this machine will never reach the internet then
[12:26] <pinkisntwell> I put ubuntu server on an old laptop and I can hear the fans going 100% 24/7 even though the CPU is below 2% most of the time. This laptop used to have windows and there the fans auto-adjusted. Is there a way to achieve the same on ubuntu server?
[12:26] <tripleheader> extras means some packages like htop openssh-server etc
[12:26] <Myris> kate: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5CoreAddons.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZTI5QFile
[12:27] <Myris> anyone know how to fix that problem?
[12:27] <tripleheader> bazhang: actually im doing a workshop in my university, and there internet will be slow
[12:27] <bazhang> tripleheader, remastering the iso is the least best way of doing what you need
[12:28] <tripleheader> bazhang: give me a better one and i will leave this
[12:28] <bazhang> tripleheader, aptoncd is just one, there are quite a few others
[12:29] <tripleheader> bazhang: Ubuntu apt-get update for the first time takes so much time if connection is slow. for this reaason I want to include extra packages
[12:29] <tripleheader> bazhang: let me check
[12:29] <bazhang> !aptoncd
[12:29] <bazhang> tripleheader, ^
[12:31] <tripleheader> bazhang: thanks man thats what I really need. let me try it and I will come here if I struck at anypoint.. thanks again
[12:31] <rightnow> I'm adding some cron to sudo crontab -e .. checking /var/log/syslog and it says: (CRON) error (can't fork). googling tells me nothing except low memory, and i have 2 gig free. ANyone has any ideas?
[12:36] <cmishra> Hello
[12:37] <cmishra> Any ubuntu make users?
[12:37] <ikonia> any what ?
[12:37] <cmishra> Anyone who has used ubuntu-make
[12:38] <ikonia> ubuntu-make ?
[12:38] <ikonia> what is ubuntu-make ?
[12:38] <gcollura> cmishra, I use it from time to time
[12:38] <greta_samsa> I use make all the time, but I think you may mean ubuntu-mate.
[12:38] <cmishra> @ikonia developer tool to install ide, languages etc
[12:38] <gcollura> https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make
[12:39] <DJones> Also in repo's since 16.04
[12:39] <cmishra> @gcollura does it have any method to use proxy while downloading the packages?
[12:39] <ikonia> what a bag of junk
[12:39] <ikonia> it's just a wrapper for standard ubuntu packages
[12:39] <gcollura> cmishra, let me check
[12:40] <gcollura> ikonia, it is helpful to install updated node/rust/go versions and intellij (android stuff also) from the command line
[12:40] <cmishra> It's helpful for swift too
[12:40] <ikonia> as opposed to using the standard tools
[12:40] <ikonia> utter waste of time
[12:41] <Ryuken> Hi, where is ~/ located?
[12:41] <ikonia> it's your home directory
[12:41] <Ryuken> I was under the impression that it was under home
[12:41] <Ryuken> But the files don't appear to be there when I type ls
[12:41] <ikonia> ~ is your home dir
[12:41] <ikonia> what files ?
[12:41] <gcollura> ikonia, I find it useful, especially for intellij, phpstorm and node, if don't find it useful, then it is not for you :)
[12:41] <Ryuken> The files git cloned
[12:42] <Ryuken> Under ~/ in terminal
[12:42] <ikonia> what command did you run to clone the repo
[12:42] <Ryuken> git clone
[12:42] <greta_samsa> Ryuken: you can find out with "echo ~"
[12:42] <ikonia> Ryuken: what was the exact command
[12:43] <cmishra> gcollura I'm having trouble because of my institute network. I was trying rust and would like automatic updates rather than installing each time.
[12:43] <gcollura> cmishra, for rust you'd better check out rustup
[12:44] <gcollura> http://rustup.rs/
[12:44] <gcollura> ubuntu-make doesn't handle 'automatic' updates anyway, I think
[12:46] <cmishra> gcollura any idea how to make the script work?  I don't know where to declare the proxy in the command given for rustup
[12:47] <gcollura> I would use the global settings for the proxy
[12:48] <Xano> I have two VMWare network interfaces in `ifconfig` that I need to get rid of. The internet tells me to remove them from `/etc/network/interfaces`, but that file is almost empty (these interfaces aren't in there).
[12:48] <cmishra> It hasn't worked for me. I have had to set up proxy for everything. From git to curl. Only the browsers and atp work.
[12:48] <Xano> Using Ubuntu 15.10
[12:51] <tomreyn> Xano: check /etc/network/interfaces.d/* as well
[12:51] <ikonia> Xano: you need to remove them from vmware as interfaces
[12:51] <ikonia> and they will stop existing as interfaces
[12:51] <tomreyn> Xano: you also need to update to a supported ubuntu release
[12:51] <ikonia> however 15.10 is an EOL release, so we don't support it any more
[12:53] <Xano> tomreyn, /etc/network/interfaces.d is empty
[12:54] <tomreyn> right, as ikon1a indicated, the vmware software you use probably configures the interfaces on the fly.
[12:54] <Xano> VMWare has a history of messing up network interfaces. I stopped using it a long time ago, but it turns out these remaining interfaces conflict with a new VM
[12:54] <raul782> Hi guys
[12:54] <Xano> So I'm pretty sure it's not a Ubuntu problem
[12:55] <raul782> So I want to fix my kernel installation
[12:55] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23567629/
[12:55] <ikonia> Xano: so it's offtopic for this channel
[12:55] <Xano> The removal of a network interface in Ubuntu is off-topic?
[12:55] <raul782> I believe I need to install linux-generic, linux-image-generic, linux-headers-generic
[12:55] <Xano> I'm not trying to fix VMWare, as that's been long gone from my machine
[12:55] <raul782> but each time I try to do it, I get an error
[12:56] <raul782> btw, what apt upgrade is doing, is trying to install the latest kernel
[12:58] <ikonia> Xano: so what part of the problem is relevent to this channel /
[12:59] <Xano> ikonia, The removal of a network interface in Ubuntu.
[12:59] <ikonia> Xano: which is not supported as you've been told
[12:59] <ikonia> Xano: 15.10 is dead and not supported, and you need to remove the interface from vmware - not ubuntu
[13:00] <fadavi> Hello there, i've some error/warning in dmesg output: paste.ubuntu.com/23567596/ any idea? solution?
[13:02] <ikonia> farid__: where did you get that 4.8 kernel.....
[13:11] <raul782> Is there a way to install the package linux-headers-generic
[13:12] <raul782> I have installed linux-headers-4.4.0-47-generic but not the alias package
[13:12] <Mathisen> raul782, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[13:14] <raul782> Mathisen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23567687/
[13:15] <raul782> The thing is that when trying to run sudo update-initramfs -u -k 4.4.0-47-generic, I'm running into issues
[13:16] <raul782> I get this error, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23566745/
[13:16] <rico_> yo^
[13:32] <howarth> What is the recommended kernel package for amd64 on yakkety to install a PAE enabled kernel?
[13:33] <howarth> http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/kernel/linux-image-4.8.0-22-generic-lpae
[13:33] <howarth> or is there a better option than that one?
[13:33] <howarth> opps
[13:33] <howarth> wrong arch
[13:34] <howarth> do you have to build your own PAE enhanced kernel or are they hidden in some special repo?
[13:35] <ikonia> the standard kernel should support PAE on 32bit
[13:35] <ikonia> you shouldn't need a specific kernel any more
[13:35] <howarth> how about x86_64?
[13:36] <ikonia> why would you use PAE on 64bit ?
[13:36] <guanjian[m]> 大家好
[13:36] <howarth> I am running Ubuntu 16.10 on a MacPro 3,1 with the virtualbox packages from the ubuntu repos installed
[13:37] <ikonia> ok ?
[13:37] <howarth> but the Virtual machine seems sluggish so I am worried that the PAE might not really be in effect
[13:37] <ikonia> what arch is the virtual machine
[13:37] <howarth> in particular, I am unclear how the efi for the MacPro 3,1 treats PAE
[13:37] <ikonia> what arch is the virtual machine
[13:38] <howarth> actually I was playing with https://techsviewer.com/install-macos-sierra-virtualbox-windows/ as a test
[13:38] <ikonia> what arch is the virtual machine
[13:39] <howarth> how do I find out the arch of the VM?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:39] <ikonia> ok - so you don't know what you're doing
[13:39] <ikonia> howarth: if you don't even know the archs of the VM's you're building, why do you even talking about PAE
[13:39] <howarth> I created a 64-bit Mac OS
[13:39] <ikonia> then why would you care about PAE
[13:39] <howarth> as the VM machine
[13:39] <vubuntor760> hi
[13:40] <howarth> My understanding was the PAE was required for VirtualBox to work properly under linux
[13:40] <ikonia> then why do you care about pae - and why do you think PAE matters as the mac OS X is not even using the linux kernel
[13:40] <ikonia> no, it's not
[13:42] <howarth> huh?
[13:42] <howarth> this is under ubuntu 6.10 so that VirtualBox most certainly should be able to use PAE, no?
[13:42] <ikonia> howarth: what arch is your ubuntu 16.10 install
[13:43] <howarth> amd64
[13:43] <ikonia> howarth: then you do not need to worry about PAE
[13:43] <ikonia> your default kernel is fine
[13:43] <wtn4726> howarth: 64 bit --- then PAE is pointless anyway
[13:43] <howarth> ok
[13:44] <wtn4726> howarth: PAE is a 32 bit only cpu feature. 64 bit has much bigger address space anyway.
[13:46] <howarth> ok, got it now
[13:46] <howarth> So is there anything to be gained by trying to install the guest OS tools when the VM is of OS X?
[13:46] <howarth> I know the OS X Virtualbox doesn't have those for OS X hosts
[13:47] <wtn4726> i know nothing about OS X
[13:47] <vubuntor760> Who is vietnamese?
[13:52] <tarvid> i really want a Linux without compiz, rtkit, pulseaudio
[13:53] <howarth> ok, I'll try again with a Windows 10 VM and compare the performance with that (since it should have guest tools)
[13:53] <howarth> so far, I have been really impressed with how cleanly Yakkety installed on a MacPro 3,1 and supported all the hardware devices out of the box
[13:54] <howarth> much cleaner than Fedora
[13:54] <howarth> The only complaint I have so far is that Ubuntu is missing a libomp package for the clang compilers
[13:55] <howarth> the clang compiler -fopenmp=libgomp is a no-op and produces serial code
[13:55] <howarth> only -fopenmp, -fopenmp=libiomp5 or -fopenmp=libomp actually produces parallel code
[13:55] <howarth> so someone needs to package up the openmp support library from llvm
[13:56] <raul782> Hello guys, I'm having an issue while reinstalling initramfs-tools
[13:57] <ikonia> why are you re-installing it
[13:57] <ikonia> would be the first question
[13:57] <avenger_q> raul782: how long is your penis?
[13:57] <raul782> I've tried to do dpkg --configure -a
[13:58] <ikonia> why where you re-installing it
[13:58] <raul782> I thought there was an issue, since each time I try to do dpkg --configure -a, the hoooks give me an error
[13:58] <ikonia> why are you doing dpkg --configure -a
[13:59] <ikonia> it sounds to me like you've done something you're not telling us, made a mess and are now focusing on the specific issue of init-ramfs rather than the overall problem
[13:59] <raul782> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23567809/
[13:59] <ikonia> you'd do better to actually answer questions rather than just keep giving info thats not been asked for
[14:00] <ikonia> so I'm going to back away from your issue
[14:01] <raul782> ikonia: fair enough, everything started yesterday my ubuntu went into maintenance mode. I ran fsck to the drives, they got fixed, I ran smartctl which gave me positive results, however after fixing the bad blocks, I found that after rebooting I could only login through the terminal
[14:02] <raul782> Then, I started having an issue with the kernel, so I did something stupid which was removing the unused kernels manually
[14:03] <raul782> which brought me to this point, Bashing-om helped me on cleaning up all my old kernels, and there were a lot, this machine has been upgrade forever so I had kernels that went back to 2.6
[14:04] <raul782> anyway, I finally got a clean list of kernels registered
[14:04] <raul782> which was just one 4.4.0-47-generic
[14:14] <user_899> whatisallthis??
[14:15] <forkup> an ubuntu help channl
[14:15] <user_899> got here from xenial wsl
[14:16] <forkup> its slow atm, everyone is in bed
[14:17] <user_899> past 9 am here in virginia
[14:19] <alessandro_> ciao
[14:19] <alessandro_> !list
[14:19] <alessandro_> ciao
[14:19] <alessandro_> list!
[14:20] <user_899> bye forkup, and thanks
[14:34] <wtn4726> Q: why did the admin rename "eth0" to "s"?
[14:34] <wtn4726> A: because he wanted to run tcpdump -penis
[14:35] <Chuncano> quit
[14:35] <jeroenpraat> Does anyone else have problems with Firefox (50.0.2) hiding italic text?
[14:35] <ricounet> hola
[14:48] <ric999> yop
[14:59] <paras> paras24
[14:59] <ubuntu-mate> hello people
[14:59] <paras> hi
[15:09] <Kazooie> Hi. Is there an ETA for when php7.1 will be available in the xenial repository?
[15:09] <jeroenpraat> just try this http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/playit.asp?filename=playcss_font-style&preval=italic
[15:09] <jeroenpraat> oblique is also hidden
[15:09] <jeroenpraat> firefox 50.0.2
[15:09] <ubuntu-mate> http://paste2.org/1PnzxwVP
[15:10] <enyc> Kazooie: that sounds like a backport (xenial-backports) rather than xenial repo
[15:10] <enyc> Kazooie: anyway it would first need to go into next release  then get 'backported' afterwards
[15:10] <stephane-gourich> Hello. Strange problem here with dynamic linking.
[15:10] <ubuntu-mate> can anyone here make some sence of this so that i can recover some data http://paste2.org/1PnzxwVP
[15:11] <stephane-gourich> Firefox would not run, complain with Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 517: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `ELFW(R_TYPE) (reloc->r_info) == R_X86_64_RELATIVE' failed!
[15:11] <ubuntu-mate> it was caused by windows stupidity and virus
[15:11] <stephane-gourich> Firefox would not run
[15:11] <stephane-gourich> I asked aptitude to reinstall firefox. Now firefox works.
[15:11] <Kazooie> enyc: So by that statement, it'll most likely be in Zesty in April. Which means Linux Mint should get it around... 2050?
[15:12] <enyc> Kazooie: mint is just using the ubuntu repo's for most things
[15:12] <enyc> Kazooie: you can use the apt tools to make your own backport once you have a working package...
[15:13] <Kazooie> I... did not know that.
[15:13] <enyc> Kazooie: you'd be best to discuss with ubuntu php package maintainer??
[15:13] <enyc> debian does not have ptp7.1 yet either
[15:13] <enyc> Kazooie: i would'nt be too concerned, why would it matter to you anyway?
[15:14] <enyc> Kazooie: counter view is that iou don't want all the new bugs with just-released package, don't be silly =)
[15:15] <digbychicken> ubuntu-mate: have you tried using a linux live CD to boot into a live session and recover that way?  or is this beyond that?
[15:15] <ubuntu-mate> can anyone here make some sence of this so that i can recover some data http://paste2.org/1PnzxwVP
[15:15] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: i can see boot recovery information, but not  filesystem check or just mounting the filesystnem and copying off your data ????
[15:15] <Kazooie> enyc: that's true enough, I suppose. I just don't want to wait 4+ months to see the new features :p
[15:16] <enyc> Kazooie: you still haven't answered why itn matters though
[15:16] <enyc> Kazooie: which new feauture needed by what?
[15:17] <ubuntu-mate> enyc guide me a little how to extract that info i only have the laptop with the ssd and this spare usb with ubuntu installed
[15:17] <Kazooie> enyc: 1] null return types `function foo(string $bar): ?string` can be string|null instead of just string. I have to not declare a return type on any functions where I'm expecting either.
[15:19] <Kazooie> 2] list array syntax allows you to use array keys instead of variables
[15:19] <ubuntu-mate> enyc: guide me a little how to extract that info i only have the laptop with the ssd and this spare usb with ubuntu installed
[15:19] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: can you not literally click on thedrive in 'computer' / desktop  sowhere?
[15:20] <ubuntu-mate> enyc:it cannot mount it
[15:20] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: ok why not? what error?
[15:20] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: end of 'dmesg' may give clue?
[15:21] <ubuntu-mate> enyc: it only shows 8mb unallocated space in gparted
[15:21] <nemo> So... I have 2 fonts that I use for unicode.  Symbola and EmojiOne.  http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/ and https://github.com/eosrei/emojione-color-font#install-on-linux
[15:22] <nemo> Symbola does not have the coverage of the fancy new emoji, and obviously does not have the colour stuff.  On the other hand, it looks a lot better on terminals
[15:22] <nemo> For example 😃  is clear and distinct in symbola, while the double outline fallback in EmojiOne is uglier scaled down..
[15:22] <Pici> 25
[15:22] <nemo> The reason I bring this up is I have both installed, and I can't seem to figure out how to control the fallback.  I read a guide on font-config and created a file I can show you guys in my ~/.config/fontconfig
[15:23] <nemo> But running fc-match still does not return the results I expect
[15:23] <stephane-gourich> One could just say "random filesystem corruption". Anyway I commented on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1314600 . Bye.
[15:23] <nemo> I was wondering if there was something ubuntu specific I was missing
[15:23] <ubuntu-mate> enyc: in file manager it says unable to mount location . cannot mount file
[15:24] <ubuntu-mate> enyc: its an intel ssd 160gb
[15:27] <screamslash> I'm running a fresh install of ubuntu mate my wifi seems to be turned off how do i turn it back on?
[15:27] <ubuntu-mate> enyc: you there
[15:28] <nemo> Here's the fonts.conf I tried http://m8y.org/tmp/fonts.conf    - I'm not sure if multiple entries in the <prefer> is appropriate, but I tried it with a single one too, without success.  I also tried symlinking to ~/.fonts.conf even though reading the entry in /etc/fonts/conf.d/*user.conf suggested it was checking both.  I also tried moving that /etc entry to 99- which suggests it should take precedence.  but
[15:28] <nemo> fc-match monospace still returns bitstream
[15:28] <nemo> oops
[15:29] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: and? did you look at the end of 'dmesg' ??
[15:29] <ubuntu-mate> enyc: posting it
[15:32] <yossarianuk> hi - is there a ppa to download multimarkdown for ubuntu ?
[15:32] <yossarianuk>  I've found this -> https://github.com/fletcher/peg-multimarkdown/wiki/How-do-I-install-MultiMarkdown%3F
[15:33] <yossarianuk>  to compile from git (instructions are out of date slightly)
[15:33] <yossarianuk>  but anyone know of a repo ?
[15:34] <ubuntu-mate> enyc: http://pastebin.com/70tzhWZ9
[15:35] <acarrillo> ss
[15:36] <s0prano9099> guys
[15:36] <s0prano9099> whenever I close a port using fuser -k, i am getting other ports closed as well :/
[15:37] <s0prano9099> for example, closing port 23 also closes port 21
[15:39] <ubuntu-mate> enyc: http://pastebin.com/70tzhWZ9
[15:40] <genii> s0prano9099: sudo lsof -i:23      ( or 21) when they're both open will tell you what daemon is using both
[15:40] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: saw that lready hangon ;p
[15:40] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: i see segfaults...
[15:40] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: I don't see messages about mounting//filessytem
[15:41] <enyc> ubuntu-mate: retry mounting that filesystem again, then look to see if anything on end of dmesg new?
[15:43] <thebored_> is there a list of nvidia cards that work better with proprietary drivers? ive had a card that didnt work right till i installed nvidia's drivers. and ive had one that wouldnt work with any acceleration without the open source driver. but i just installed on a new computer, and it has an nvidia 8400 GS. what makes most sense now-a-days for that generation? nouveau vs nvidia 340.98 vs nvidia legacy 304.132(i assume not this one)?
[15:43] <thebored_> ....sorry for the wot....seemed smaller in my head
[15:45] <severusken> hello anyone there ?
[15:46] <Southern_Gentlem> severusken, no we booted anyone (it was a bot)
[15:47] <tomreyn> severusken: a lot of people (roughly 2000) are here, what is your actual question?
[15:47] <enyc> thebored_: hrrm good qusetion, i'd just try the different drivers!
[15:47] <severusken> i accidentally installed some pkgs via terminal.is there any command that helps you "remove" that previous packages you just installed ?
[15:48] <enyc> severusken: apt-get autoremove {package}   generally
[15:48] <tomreyn> severusken: how did you install them exactly, can oyu show the command line you used?
[15:48] <genii> severusken: Depends how you installed them. If from some tar.gz source file then not as easy to remove as from a deb package file
[15:49] <severusken> i followed the commands in here [https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu]
[15:49] <severusken> its Wine
[15:50] <severusken> and the next one is Lumina desktop 1.1
[15:50] <severusken> but nothing happens
[15:51] <genii> !ppa-purge | severusken
[15:51] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:wine/wine-builds
[15:52] <ice9> is there an Ambience theme with blue color instead of the purple?
[15:52] <severusken> thanks guys.i trying now
[15:53] <raul782_> Hi guys, I am trying to reinstall snapd but the progress halts at 66%
[15:54] <raul782_> the reason is that now that my kernel is setup correctly, I've rebooted and it seemed the service snap.firstboot.service is down and I got redirected to the emergency mode
[16:03] <Guest55600> Hello
[16:04] <MarkB> quit
[16:07] <manners13> hey guys i have a problem which i hope someone can help with
[16:07] <manners13> i have a 8tb external raid enclosure connected via esata
[16:07] <manners13> the raid partition had data on however now it shows as empty
[16:08] <manners13> i have ran testdisk and can see the files
[16:08] <manners13> now if i tell it to write and reboot it creates a 2tb partition and a 5gb empty partition
[16:08] <manners13> but i still can mount as it says the size is invalid due to the superblock
[16:09] <manners13> i know before the whole drive was one partition
[16:09] <manners13> i can list the files in testdisk and they all show up fine but i really havent got a spare 2tb drive to copy the files too
[16:10] <manners13> anyone got any idea how to get this as a mountable partition again
[16:17] <manners13> anyone
[16:21] <Gloomy> Hi :)
[16:21] <manners13> hi
[16:21] <Gloomy> Suggestions for an pleasant-looking email client? Scriptable ideally
[16:22] <Gloomy> a*
[16:23] <aefwwqe> outlook
[16:24] <Gloomy> What's with all the joins/quits? Is freenode under attack again or w
[16:24] <Gloomy> hat
[16:26] <drfritznunkie> Who manages ubuntu cloud images? New AWS regions (us-east-2, ap-south-1, and ap-northeast-2) are missing AMIs for the latest Trusty release
[16:26] <manners13> can anyone help, i have an external raid enclosure connected via e-sata the device used to be mountable however now it shows as empty, If i use testdisk i can see the files on the disk, i tried to write the partition again using test disk but it creates a 2tb partition and an empty 5tb partition
[16:27] <manners13> i cannot mount the 2tb as it says bad geometry block count 1953463808 exceeds size of device
[16:28] <manners13> it used to be a 7tb partition
[16:29] <manners13> so i guess somehow i need to get the partition back to the 7tb so the size matches, i tried using gparted to grow the partition but it fails
[16:34] <elquasont> greetings all
[16:42] <m1guelpiedrafita> Hi!
[16:48] <nacc> drfritznunkie: you should ask in #ubuntu-server, probably
[16:49] <drfritznunkie> thanks nacc
[16:50] <nacc> drfritznunkie: np, i can ping the correct people there if you don't get a response
[16:58] <zamawiaczka> Hello, has anyone recommendation for good gamer headset ?
[16:59] <daku_> I have the Logitech G35 and I love it. Haven't used it too extensively on Linux though.
[17:00] <manners13> Hey guys can anyone help, i have a external raid enclosure which used to be a 7tb partition, the disk disapeered so i ran parted and managed to see the drive as unallocated, i then ran testdisk which can list the files so i tried to write the partition using testdisk, its now created a 2tb drive and 5tb unallocated, i cannot mount the 2tb drive as it says the geometry is incorrect. i tried to
[17:00] <manners13> resize using parted but again this fails due to geometry
[17:04] <Richard_Cavell> Jordan_U: Hi.  I just cannot get Ubuntu to load on my iMac at all.  The only solution I haven't tried is to boot into Debian, then use unetbootin within Debian to create an Ubuntu USB stick, then boot to that and see if it will install.
[17:06] <yocs0000> Is there a home theater based on VLC?
[17:06] <m1guelpiedrafita> Hey! Anyone knows if I can add more space to my ubuntu primary partition?
[17:08] <manners13> Hey guys can anyone help, i have a external raid enclosure which used to be a 7tb partition, the disk disapeered so i ran parted and managed to see the drive as unallocated, i then ran testdisk which can list the files so i tried to write the partition using testdisk, its now created a 2tb drive and 5tb unallocated, i cannot mount the 2tb drive as it says the geometry is incorrect. i tried to
[17:08] <manners13> resize using parted but again this fails due to geometry
[17:08] <wedgie> yocs0000: kodi can be made to use vlc if you'd like
[17:08] <yocs0000> wedgie: nice! how?
[17:09] <wedgie> yocs0000: google 'kodi vlc'   that'll explain better than i can
[17:09] <tomreyn> m1guelpiedrafita: depends on how you partitoned. if you have an msdos partition table (the one with primary and extended partitions) AND you only have a single primary partition then you'll need to change the partition table layout.maybe try it with gparted live cd (after making backups).
[17:09] <m1guelpiedrafita> tomreyn: How can I share a list of my partitions?
[17:14] <nacc> manners13: i'm not sure i follow -- why did the disk disappear?
[17:15] <manners13> the disk used to be on usb
[17:15] <manners13> but the usb module inside it failed
[17:16] <manners13> testdisk allows me to see the files but i dont have a spare 2tb disk to copy them too
[17:17] <manners13> my guess is if i can get the partition back to its full size then the files will be fine but i cant see how on earth i can get it to recover the free space as well as teh space actually used
[17:17] <manners13> the 2tb is the used space
[17:24] <Kinder-Pingvi> hi guys! When does planned to deploy ubuntu 16.04.2 with new 4.8.* kernel?
[17:25] <nacc> Kinder-Pingvi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[17:25] <Pici> Kinder-Pingvi: January 19th.. also things are changing in respect to the HWE kernel on Xenial, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-November/000215.html
[17:25] <Aaron> Kinder-Pingvi see the status of the next Release https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[17:25] <Kinder-Pingvi> Wow, thanks, guys
[17:26] <Kinder-Pingvi> As I see in future canonical will drop unity based on gtk+compiz?
[17:26] <Kinder-Pingvi> and will use instead it qt?
[17:26] <Kinder-Pingvi> does it is the hint that gtk will die? :)
[17:28] <xangua> Kinder-Pingvi: gnome just released gnome 3.22 and are already planning gnome 4 gtk dying, is hard to believe for now
[17:30] <Kinder-Pingvi> xangua, very interesting case, gtk4. As I see gtk-based environments has too bad performance on proprietary nvidia drivers. And as I see on latest gnome 3.2*, it is has bad performance on most integrated videocards :(
[17:33] <adrian_RO> Hello everyone!
[17:34] <adrian_RO> Can someone please help me with a headset issue on an Acer E 11, running the latest Lubuntu? I can't seem to get my external microphone to work
[17:37] <adrian_RO> I have installed pulseaudio and pavucontrol and alsamixer, but did not manage to receive input
[17:40] <happy_> join #mahabadlug
[17:40] <happy_> _join #mahabadlug
[17:40] <manners13> i think you want / join
[17:41] <yocs0000> wedgie: can you point me to any documentation?
[17:42] <happy_> join ?
[17:42] <manners13> no its / join without the sapce
[17:42] <manners13> space
[17:42] <happy_> #join _mahabadlug
[17:42] <Pici> happy_: the command is /join #mahabadlug
[17:42] <Pici> no space in front of the /
[17:43] <wedgie> yocs0000: http://kodi.wiki/view/external_players
[17:43] <happy_> #join _ubuntu-ir
[17:46] <xela_> hi - having an issue with system-config-lvm on 16.04LTS. It starts but it's completely empty like it was unable to access devices.
[17:46] <xela_> I tried either with sudo either as root directly.
[17:51]  * user_13 
[17:55] <HELPPLS> Hello!!
[17:55] <HELPPLS> anyone familiar with LTSP???
[17:55] <BluesKaj> LTS maybe
[17:56] <HELPPLS> ok, so I'm running LTSP server from 16.04LTS and I need the clients to get the regular default login screen...
[17:56] <HELPPLS> they are currently getting the odd LTSP login system... https://www.thefanclub.co.za/sites/default/files/images/ThinClient.png
[17:57] <HELPPLS> The LTSP login system does not allow for true guest/skel accounts and the autologin feature has known bugs... black screen etc..
[17:58] <BluesKaj> HELPPLS, maybe your question can be answered more quickly at #ubuntu-server chat
[17:58] <HELPPLS> im not running server edition
[18:01] <tgm4883> HELPPLS: LTSP is more server oriented, so you might find more direct help in that chat
[18:03] <whitemaiko> !Mysfyt Nick Vujicic - Life Without Limits- Inspiration for a Ridiculously Good Life (epub).rar
[18:03] <guzzlefry> So, I've been trying to figure this out for some time now. How do I get gnome-keyring to do the equivalent of `ssh-add -c`? I've even tried manually running that command but I get the error "Could not add identity "/home/user/.ssh/id_rsa": communication with agent failed"
[18:06] <Richard_Cavell> Hello, everyone.  I have tried everything to get Ubuntu 16.04 (Cinnamon and Mate) to boot on my 2006 iMac5,1.  It just won't boot from DVD.  Does anyone have any ideas before I give up entirely?
[18:09] <xangua> Richard_Cavell: what do you mean by "tried everything" and why not USB?
[18:11] <Richard_Cavell> xangua: If it won't boot from DVD then is making a bootable USB stick going to solve it?
[18:11] <xangua> Richard_Cavell: don't know, you still haven't explained what is everything
[18:12] <na_> hay
[18:12] <na_> what is your name?
[18:13] <Richard_Cavell> I have burned the 16.04 iso to a DVD.  I put the DVD in the drive of my iMac5,1.  I hold down the C key while booting.  It gives me this screen.  https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0sG5Vpechopyk;3AEEEAEF-2447-47F3-BB93-3BFB86D876B4  The cursor flashes but does not accept any input.  My keyboard and mouse are connected via USB but I cannot get past this screen.
[18:13] <na_> how to make backdoor php?
[18:15] <KajiMaster> How did you burn it to a DVD?
[18:20] <gahan> is there a channel dedicated to users of dev branch?
[18:20] <gahan> !zesty
[18:23] <nicomach1s> I'm on an Ubuntu guest and have a Windows host in virtualbox. is there a way to mount the host filesystem into the guest?
[18:23] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Please boot to the grub menu of the Debian install DVD, press 'C' to get to a grub shell, then come back (with another machine) into the channel and I will walk you through loading Ubuntu from there.
[18:24] <Jordan_U> nicomach1s: Share the files you want via CIFS.
[18:24] <Richard_Cavell> Okay so just to clarify when you say "grub menu", do you mean this screen? https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0sG5Vpechopyk;4F72EF19-240A-44DB-AB2D-AE0B66BDDE52
[18:26] <nicomach1s> Jordan_U: I can't just mount it under /media/ or something?
[18:34] <zergut> G'day something happends with my UI constanlty
[18:35] <zergut> all apps just stop responding
[18:35] <zergut> on mouse clicks
[18:35] <zergut> i mean all internal elements in windows interface
[18:35] <zergut> it still respond on keyboard buttons
[18:35] <zergut> the heck?
[18:37] <zergut> mouse pointer is responding as well
[18:38] <zergut> The change of user doesnt help
[18:38] <zergut> i mean turning between users
[18:39] <zergut> what could it be?
[18:40] <zergut> looks like some component in x server fails
[18:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> so i'm going to wipe my baremetal win10 installation, install 16.04.1 and kvm, and try to figure out gpu passthrough for a gtx 970...
[18:49]  * NoImNotNineVolt crosses fingers
[18:51] <monsune> NoImNotNineVolt very good idea
[18:51] <digbychicken> NoImNotNineVolt: Good luck!
[19:15] <yiyoz> Hi everybody
[19:16] <yiyoz> \QUIT
[19:17] <boxrick1> How does bond-master in the interfaces differ to bond-slaves in the bond itself?
[19:17] <boxrick1> Since one seems to work and the other not
[19:19] <Ologn> Did something change in 16.10 recently where clicking the top of a window will expand it to full-screen?
[19:23] <lukkan99> are thay any offtopic chat?
[19:24] <nacc> lukkan99: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:28] <Elizabeth_> Hello I was wondering if someone could help me with an error I'm getting when trying to put ubuntu on my Virtual Box on Windows 7
[19:30] <Elizabeth_> any time I try to mount the .iso file (downloaded directly from ubuntu's site) I get the following error:
[19:31] <Elizabeth_> Could not get the storage format of the medium 'C:\Users\elizabeth.fuenzalida\Documents\ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso' (VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED).
[19:31] <Elizabeth_>  Result Code:  VBOX_E_IPRT_ERROR (0x80BB0005) Component:  MediumWrap Interface:  IMedium {4afe423b-43e0-e9d0-82e8-ceb307940dda} Callee:  IVirtualBox {0169423f-46b4-cde9-91af-1e9d5b6cd945} Callee RC:  VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)
[19:31] <akik> Elizabeth_: are you trying to add it into a optical drive ?
[19:31] <monsune> Elizabeth_ this isn't related to ubuntu at all, please ask in #virtualbox
[19:32] <Elizabeth_> I have tried optical and hard disk same error
[19:32] <Elizabeth_> also happens when trying an older version (aka 14.0)
[19:32] <akik> Elizabeth_: check the checksum
[19:32] <monsune> you most likely didn't choose the right OS in the virtualbox panel
[19:33] <akik> monsune: the iso image can be added in storage settings
[19:33] <Elizabeth_> I chose LInux as the OS in VB panel
[19:33] <akik> it doesn't matter any more at that stage what the vm os is
[19:34] <Elizabeth_> not sure, how to check the checksum. But I have tried redownloading, and different sources thinking corruption might be the problem and everythign is turning up the same so far
[19:35] <monsune> please ask in #virtualbox
[19:35] <Elizabeth_> monsune that is where I am trying to mount from
[19:35] <akik> Elizabeth_: it should be as easy as having a cd/dvd drive in the settings and then adding the iso file to that drive
[19:36] <Elizabeth_> ok I'll give VB a shot but I have also seen this question posted in a lot of ubuntu fourms when I looked up the results code
[19:36] <monsune> it's either a bug or just broken .iso - you need to make 100% sure the checksum is right and go from there
[19:37] <freeone3000> Hi. I need to update from 10.14 to 16.04. Is there a sane upgrade path available?
[19:37] <Elizabeth_> how do I check the checksum?
[19:37] <monsune> look, this is ubuntu channel
[19:37] <monsune> just grab any windows tool for that
[19:37] <akik> Elizabeth_: you can calculate it with hashcalc in windows
[19:38] <Elizabeth_> thank you akik
[19:39] <Elizabeth_> monsune, if it is a broken ubuntu.iso where would you go- from a beginners stand-point? I am chceking over on VB as we speak
[19:40] <ikonia> if it's a broken iso - make a new one
[19:40] <ikonia> (get a new one)
[19:40] <Elizabeth_> like I said above I have tried redownloading, and getting from other sources
[19:40] <tgm4883> Elizabeth_: use a .torrent
[19:41] <akik> Elizabeth_: the checksums are in the same directory as the iso files
[19:41] <Elizabeth_> alright, thank you akik
[19:41] <akik> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/
[19:44] <Apachez> known issue? ->  update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-28-generic     W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915     W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin for module i915
[19:44] <ikonia> why are you running "update-initramfs"
[19:45] <ikonia> and where did the 4.8 kernel come from
[19:45] <Apachez> through apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:45] <Apachez> so its not something I "run"
[19:45] <ikonia> from what repo
[19:45] <Apachez> ubuntu repo
[19:45] <ikonia> which one
[19:45] <Apachez> ?
[19:45] <Apachez> 16.10
[19:46] <ikonia> ah, so it's default with 16.10, I didn't realise 16.10 was shipping 4.8
[19:46] <ikonia> thought it was earlier
[19:46] <Apachez> what did you thought then?
[19:46] <ikonia> so it's just a warning when the kernel auto updates ?
[19:47] <Apachez> you are not really helping
[19:47] <ash_workz> is there a list of regex characters that work with grep (sans -E) ?
[19:47] <ioria> Apachez, you got an old intel video card ?
[19:47] <genii> !info linux-image-generic zesty
[19:47] <Apachez> ioria: hd5000
[19:47] <ikonia> Apachez: I am helping, I need to understand the problem
[19:48] <Apachez> CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4250U CPU @ 1.30GHz (family: 0x6, model: 0x45, stepping: 0x1)
[19:48] <ikonia> genii: is that right ? I didn't think 16.10 was 4.8
[19:48] <ioria> Apachez, not old, i'd say
[19:48] <Pici> ikonia: it is.
[19:48] <genii> ikonia: The machine beside me on Zesty says the same version
[19:49] <ikonia> Pici: genii thank you, I had it in my head it was earlier
[19:52] <ioria> Apachez, maybe this, but not sure (be careful), btw it's just a warning https://01.org/linuxgraphics/intel-linux-graphics-firmwares
[19:52] <ikonia> I certainly wouldn't be dropping that in manually
[19:53] <ikonia> I'd be more interested why it's not shipped as a dependency package for the kernel
[19:53] <Apachez> ioria: haswell cpu so that isnt covered by that list unfortunately
[19:53] <Apachez> ikonia: which is why I asked in this channel :)
[19:53] <ioria> right
[19:53] <Apachez> everything seems to be working, just that warning every time the kernel gets updated
[19:53] <Apachez> so it seems like something is fubared at the ubuntu repo
[19:54] <akik> Apachez: it's just a warning. is it working fine?
[19:54] <Apachez> seems so
[19:54] <Apachez> just wanted to give a headsup
[19:54] <Apachez> would expect that more is seeing this
[19:55] <ikonia> Apachez: why do you think the repo is broken ?
[19:55] <Apachez> ikonia: why would that warning exist when using packets from the repo?
[19:55] <Apachez> I would expect zero warnings or errors
[19:56] <ikonia> Apachez: it's a warning to tell you a firmware component is not in the kernel tree
[19:56] <ikonia> thats not a bad thing
[19:56] <nacc> is this the normal intel graphics thing? it can be ignored
[19:57] <nacc> you only need that fw for kaby lake, iirc
[19:57] <nacc> Apachez: your expectation is, unfortunately, incorrect
[19:57] <Apachez> didnt see such warnings when using 16.04
[19:57] <AsymmetricalFace> i want to have an lxterminal instance always open though zsh tmout. how do i do it in an elegant manner?
[19:57] <nacc> yes, upstream kernel has changed
[19:57] <nacc> Apachez: -^
[19:58] <nacc> Apachez: intel upstream does things like this, where they add a dependency on not-yet-released firmware. You're not running suhc a processor, and by the time someone is, the firmware will be available
[20:00] <lujaain> .login password
[20:08] <ViciousLooRoll> i'm using urxvt and for some reason urxvt wont start with my custom font
[20:08] <ViciousLooRoll> http://pastebin.com/raw/ArHF4XLL
[20:09] <akik> ViciousLooRoll: wasn't urxvt some xterm clone?
[20:09] <akik> ViciousLooRoll: maybe check if it has the -fn switch
[20:10] <ViciousLooRoll> akik: im not sure how to do that
[20:10] <akik> ViciousLooRoll: man urxvt and xlsfonts
[20:11] <akik> ViciousLooRoll: you can use the font names from xlsfonts with "urxvt -fn font-name" (if it has the -fn switch)
[20:11] <akik> don't know about ttfs, though
[20:11] <ViciousLooRoll> alex@ALEX-GAMING-PC:~$ urxvtc -fn ttf: PxPlus IBM VGA8:pixelsize=15
[20:11] <ViciousLooRoll> urxvt: "PxPlus": malformed option.
[20:11] <ViciousLooRoll> urxvt: "IBM": malformed option.
[20:11] <ViciousLooRoll> urxvt: "VGA8:pixelsize=15": malformed option.
[20:12] <ViciousLooRoll> sorry, should have used pastebin for that.
[20:12] <akik> ViciousLooRoll: yea, well, you can't use option values like that
[20:13] <akik> ViciousLooRoll: if the name has spaces, you need to contain it between " "
[20:14] <ViciousLooRoll> akik, ah
[20:14] <ViciousLooRoll> now it says unable to load base fontset again
[20:15] <akik> ViciousLooRoll: maybe skip the "ttf: "
[20:15] <ViciousLooRoll> same issue
[20:15] <ViciousLooRoll> weird
[20:15] <akik> ViciousLooRoll: urxvt seems to obey .Xresources and "URxvt.font: " setting
[20:16] <akik> try googling those
[20:17] <BluesKaj> javascript doesn't load google maps on Firefox, i get an error on sites like this, www.ip-tracker.org
[20:20] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> I'm trying to setup Neverwinter Nights with PlayOnLinux and I'm getting the following:
[20:20] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> [12/02/16 13:18:40] - Running wine-1.7.12 nwmain.exe (Working directory : /home/user/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/NeverwinterNights_gog/drive_c/GOG Games/NWN Diamond)
[20:20] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> err:module:import_dll Library binkw32.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\GOG Games\\NWN Diamond\\nwmain.exe") not found
[20:20] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> err:module:import_dll Library mss32.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\GOG Games\\NWN Diamond\\nwmain.exe") not found
[20:20] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\GOG Games\\NWN Diamond\\nwmain.exe" failed, status c0000135
[20:22] <BluesKaj> PlayOnLinuxHelp, I understand Neverwinter Nights has been ported to linux and doesn't need wine
[20:22] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> BluesKaj: Can you show me?
[20:24] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> https://www.gog.com/game/neverwinter_nights_diamond_edition says it's just for windows so that's why i'm doing wine
[20:24] <BluesKaj> PlayOnLinuxHelp, https://www.gog.com/forum/neverwinter_nights_series/enfrlinux_install_neverwinter_nights_on_debianubuntumintetc
[20:26] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> Looks like it's only for the two .bin game
[20:26] <ubuntulvr> \q
[20:26] <PlayOnLinuxHelp> mine has 1
[20:28] <Majikthise> I have a Win7/Ubuntu + UEFI question
[20:29] <Majikthise> I know there is a way to keep Win7 from overwriting the efiboot file, does someone remember what that is?
[20:30] <ikonia> it won't overwrite it
[20:35] <fouad> hi all
[20:35] <fouad> i'm on gnome shell 3.20
[20:35] <merpnderp> Anyone have luck running Ubuntu on an Acer 15" chromebook with 4GB of ram doing dev work?
[20:35] <fouad> i want to resize desktop grid icons
[20:35] <ikonia> merpnderp: ipossible question
[20:36] <ikonia> impossible
[20:38] <genii> merpnderp: Seeing as they have a 1.5GHz Celeron, probably not prudent even if it was possible
[20:39] <merpnderp> genii: You don't think compile times would be fast enough?
[20:39] <ikonia> merpnderp: it's an impossible question
[20:39] <merpnderp> I mean Ubuntu only consumes like what, half a gig of ram?
[20:39] <ikonia> merpnderp: you have no context of what you've been doing, no idea of the linux support, no idea of the tools
[20:39] <ikonia> merpnderp: we can't answer it,
[20:39] <nacc> merpnderp: ubuntu (linux) will use all of the ram on the system
[20:40] <merpnderp> ikonia: I'll be doing node/js dev in VSCode and likely need a small instance of mysql running.
[20:40] <nacc> merpnderp: i don't know what "consumes...half a gig of ram" is referring to
[20:40] <merpnderp> nacc: for Unity's windowing system.
[20:40] <ikonia> merpnderp: again, that means nothing
[20:41] <merpnderp> ikonia: it means a lot. I know how much ram mysql and vscode need to do dev.
[20:41] <ikonia> merpnderp: how much ?
[20:42] <merpnderp> ikonia: Code needs about ~100MB and I can force MySQL to stay within 512MB and be good enough for dev work.
[20:42] <nacc> merpnderp: i don't think what you're saying makes sense or reflects how software works. Do you mean you can approximate the RSS of a system? That's probably true, for a given instance at a given moment. I don't think you can assert that for an entire installation. And "Unity's windowing system" is only one part of Ubuntu.
[20:42] <ikonia> merpnderp: so you expect to run a desktop environemnt and modern requirements in 512mb of ram on a celeron, don't waste your time
[20:42] <nacc> merpnderp: so yes, if you artificially constrain everythihng using cgroups or something, you can of course restrict things. Seems sort of tautological.
[20:43] <merpnderp> nacc: if my tools will likely never use more than 2GB of ram, then can Unity run well on the other 2? Last time I ran Ubuntu it seemed like just opening the UI without any apps opened it was around 1GB.
[20:43] <ikonia> merpnderp: don't waste your time
[20:43] <merpnderp> ikonia: on a chromebook?
[20:43] <ikonia> for the usecase/info you've just supplied, it will be a wate of your time
[20:43] <ikonia> waste
[20:44] <merpnderp> ikonia: I don't think you got what I was saying if you think I planned on running everything inside of 512MB
[20:45] <ikonia> merpnderp: I did get it, and it doesn't work like that
[20:45] <blackflow> Hrm.. I have a weird problem on 16.10. For example domain buy.ubuntu.com. I can `dig` it, the zone is returned fine, CNAME to shops.myshopify.com. But any attempt to access it, via ping or in browser, or wget... returns "Name or service not known".
[20:45] <ikonia> you're planning that, but it won't work out that way
[20:45] <merpnderp> you can tell mysql how much ram to consume
[20:45] <blackflow> Thing is, I've tried changing the resolver in resolv.conf, still the same.
[20:45] <ikonia> merpnderp: you asked "is it worth it" or words to that effect, I'm telling you no and now you're trying to convince me
[20:46] <ikonia> merpnderp: if you think it's worth it, get on with it, I think it's a total waste of effort, but it's not me asking
[20:46] <merpnderp> ikonia: I asked if anyone had any luck doing it. It sounds like you've never tried.
[20:46] <ikonia> merpnderp: no, as you're asking "has anyone used this specific hardware thats quite obscure, with linux and doing the same dev work as me" thats not a realistic question as I said at the start
[20:47] <ikonia> merpnderp: however you've given more info, and based on what you've said, I think it's a waste of time
[20:50] <merpnderp> 4GB is likely plenty. I used to dev on an old Dell running Ubuntu with only 4GB of ram. And the 1.5Ghz celeron isn't fast, but neither is my current 15W work machine.
[20:50] <ikonia> why are you asking now ?
[20:50] <merpnderp> Course Firefox will end up 1GB all by itself :/
[20:51] <ikonia> you're asking for advice.....and then arguing when someone gives you their opinion
[20:51] <ikonia> if you think it's fine, why are you asking, just get on with it and do it
[20:51] <merpnderp> Because it's $240 that would be wasted if I can't comfortably work on it :)
[20:52] <ikonia> but you're arguing it
[20:52] <ikonia> "I don't think it's worth it" you say "I think it's fine"
[20:52] <ikonia> if you think it's fine, why discuss it, get on with it
[20:53] <merpnderp> ikonia: With just my dev tools open and Firefox, my mac is using 3.8GB total
[20:54] <merpnderp> No, my bad, 6.3
[20:54] <merpnderp> yikes
[20:54] <blackflow> merpnderp: I had an Acer laptop with Celeron N3050 (or xx60, can't remember the second set of numbers). Browsing the net was a huge pain, even with javascripts and ads blocked and disabled. I literally threw it into garbage.
[20:54] <blackflow> and that was... few months ago. so a "modern" laptop, not a years old carp.
[20:55] <ikonia> merpnderp: you dont have to convince me - I think it's a waste of time, if you diagree, thats fine, just buy it
[20:55] <merpnderp> blackflow: Thanks for the heads up. Id only use something like that if I had to. Sounds awful.
[20:56] <blackflow> merpnderp:  yeah I thought I only needed it to browse the net and write python code, and being so low powered, the battery would last. Well, it did, 6 hours. and the thing was cheap, but I regretted the purchase.
[20:57] <merpnderp> blackflow: well that ends my hope of a $240 dev machine :P
[20:57] <blackflow> merpnderp: compare your CPU with this: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N3050+%40+1.60GHz
[20:57] <merpnderp> I really want a System76 Orxy Pro, but the 1.5 hour battery life and the giant 50lb power brick keep me from doing it.
[20:59] <merpnderp> blackflow: think I'm running a 4700HQ, but would have to check
[20:59] <blackflow> merpnderp: I meant to the Chromebook thing you wanted to buy.
[20:59] <Richard_Cavell> merpnderp: I'm thinking of buying a Dell laptop for programming.  Do you recommend the Inspiron for programming?
[21:00] <blackflow> merpnderp: the 4700HQ has an order of magnitude better cpu mark score
[21:01] <xangua> merpnderp: if what you want is cheap www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/11/pinebook-arm-laptop-runs-ubuntu
[21:02] <rysiek> nn
[21:03] <merpnderp> blackflow: wow, my mac is 8305. That Celeron is 892
[21:03] <blackflow> Anyway, any suggestions what might be going on here? I can't resolve some domains, like currently buy.ubuntu.com, even though `dig` returns a valid zone. Changed the default dnsmask @ 127.0.1.1 resolver to an external one we use on the LAN, still the same. Anyone noticed it?
[21:03] <merpnderp> zanshin: hah, ARM. No thanks :)
[21:09] <blackflow> oh.... shitstemd-resolvd. figures................... nuked that one out. it now resolves fine.
[21:11] <garywhite> Is there an Ubuntu distro that has a GUI that will run in 2GB of HDD space? My old notebook has a 650MHz Intel processor, 512MB RAM (upgraded), and a 10GB HDD, and I'd like to have 6-8GB free for user data
[21:11] <JesseH5> So I'm using lubuntu, and I made a mistake... I unplugged my laptop from the dock and now the screen is black because I guess it's looking for the monitors that were connected to the dock. How can I reset the settings so that I can use my laptop? I'm using lubuntu 15.10.
[21:12] <JesseH5> The settings were changed with arandr.
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> !mini | garywhite
[21:15] <Bashing-om> !15.10 | JesseH5
[21:16] <Bashing-om> JesseH5: ^^ Strongly advised to upgrade to a current release .
[21:16] <EriC^^> garywhite: unity wont run on 512mb of ram, very doubtful
[21:16] <EriC^^> look into lubuntu
[21:17] <EriC^^> garywhite: do the mini as MonkeyDust said and install a lightweight de
[21:17] <EriC^^> or window manager like fluxbox or i3
[21:21] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[21:22] <dbugger> I have a bug since long, when I log in I get a "Failure to download extra data files" about "ttf-mscorefonts-installer". I have tried almost every post I have seen on this problem, and it keeps happening. Can someone help me get rid of this, please?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> dbugger: Have you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer  :
[21:24] <Bashing-om> When the EULA pops up use the space bar to page down, Tab to highlight "Ok", then Enter.
[21:25] <dbugger> Bashing-om, I get a "ttf-mscorefonts-installer is already the newest version (3.4+nmu1ubuntu2)."
[21:31] <Bashing-om> dbugger: Sorry, then - that was the only thought I had .
[21:32] <dbugger> :(
[21:33] <th0r> dbugger, you might try to uninstall it then install it again. might purge as well
[21:33] <dbugger> th0r, this happened: http://hastebin.com/obinurujic.sql
[21:35] <th0r> dbugger, that doesn't look like any pastebin link I have seen
[21:36] <dbugger> I can use pastebin, if you prefer it
[21:36] <dbugger> wait
[21:36] <dbugger> th0r, there you go: http://pastebin.com/raw/zC7dZvS3
[21:39] <Goldschlager> hello
[21:42] <th0r> dbugger, that url downloaded for me just fine. I would try to fully uninstall the installer (uninstall --purge) and start all over again
[21:42] <dbugger> It does not work....
[21:42] <dbugger> I do a remove --purge
[21:43] <dbugger> then a install
[21:43] <dbugger> and I get the same error
[21:44] <dbugger> I have posted it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/856306/failure-to-download-ttf-mscorefonts-installer-not-even-reinstall-works
[21:44] <th0r> dbugger, just checking...you are running this with sudo, right?
[21:44] <dbugger> Yes
[21:47] <Pici> There are a few bugs for this on launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1645253
[21:48] <dbugger> Is there something I can do ? some hotfix?
[22:04] <David__> Hi
[22:04] <Pici> ~/25
[22:28] <manners13> Hey guys can anyone help, i have a external raid enclosure which used to be a 7tb partition, the disk disapeered so i ran parted and managed to see the drive as unallocated, i then ran testdisk which can list the files so i tried to write the partition using testdisk, its now created a 2tb drive and 5tb unallocated, i cannot mount the 2tb drive as it says the geometry is incorrect. i tried to
[22:28] <manners13> resize using parted but again this fails due to geometry
[22:28] <Prutheus> Hello! I wanna visualize the audio I am playing. Do you know any good audio visualizers in 3d, with good, fancy animatoins for linux? I want to bring life into the music i hear.
[22:28] <piero> ciao
[22:29] <piero> list
[22:32] <skinux> What is the current (if any) way to run IE on Linux?
[22:32] <ikonia> you don't
[22:32] <nacc> skinux: why would you?
[22:32] <wedgie> web testing
[22:33] <nacc> why would it be useful to run a browser that doesn't exist under linux, under linux, for testing
[22:33] <nacc> that's a fully artificial testcase
[22:35] <skinux> nacc: I don't realy WANT to. I'm working with a page that uses checkboxes, but for some reason I can't select any of the checkboxes on any specific page.
[22:36] <wedgie> skinux: you've tried chrome and firefox already?
[22:36] <skinux> I'm having the problem with Chrome...haven't tried firefox.
[22:36] <wedgie> probably easier to install firefox to give it a shot than IE :P
[22:37] <nacc> skinux: that sounds like a broken webpage
[22:47] <tonyt> when does support for 14.04 stop?
[22:48] <genii> 2019
[22:49] <genii> tonyt: Sorry, no, they changed the support lifetime now. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases indicates April 2017
[22:50] <tonyt> k thanks
[22:51] <nacc> genii: tonyt: no 14.04 is supported for 5 years
[22:51] <nacc> genii: i think you might have misread the 12.04.5 line?
[22:51] <tonyt> so it 2019?
[22:51] <nacc> tonyt: yes, for 14.04, 14.04.1 and 14.04.5
[22:51] <tonyt> k
[22:51] <nacc> tonyt: the others are already out of support
[22:52] <Ignominated> /amigo45
[22:52] <genii> nacc: That's what I though, that they unified LTS support for 5 years.
[22:52] <nacc> genii: yeah, all LTS are 5 years (now)
[22:52] <genii> Yes, I must have read the wrong line there somehow :-/
[22:53]  * genii gets more coffee
[23:08] <vortex__> hi
[23:09] <CyberCyborg> Way too many people use cyber in their username  :P
[23:09] <vortex__> its cool
[23:09] <CyberCyborg> true
[23:09] <richard> hi, my name is richard ?
[23:09] <richard> hi
[23:09] <richard> sorry for question mark
[23:09] <vortex__> I just installed ubuntu Mate its so great you should check it out
[23:09] <vortex__> yes it is richard
[23:09] <CyberCyborg> I'm using mate as well
[23:10] <vortex__> perfect
[23:10] <vortex__> is it good ?
[23:10] <tgm4883> !ot
[23:10] <CyberCyborg> i like it.  It reminds me of Ubuntu before 11.04
[23:10] <vortex__> your'e old school..
[23:11] <CyberCyborg> and I'm using a chromebook with crummy hardware so Unity isn't an option
[23:11] <vortex__> im only 18 years old i havent  used past releases
[23:11] <CyberCyborg> I started with 10.04
[23:11] <vortex__> why people dont talk?
[23:12] <tgm4883> vortex__: CyberCyborg #ubuntu-discuss exists for discussion, this is the support channel
[23:12] <vortex__> ok
[23:12] <CyberCyborg> dunno there are hundreds of people online
[23:12] <vortex__> just connect to #ubuntu-discuss
[23:13] <Snowie> most, I assume, are like me, lurking on here to answer a support question, as a way of giving back to the community.
[23:13] <vortex__> yes this is a support chanell
[23:18] <amanda> oi
[23:19] <tekeli-li> http://askubuntu.com/q/617912  <-- I have this. Does anyone know what it is?
[23:20] <tgm4883> tekeli-li: you don't have an android device?
[23:20] <tekeli-li> Yes, but I've never plugged it into this Ubuntu system.
[23:22] <Snowie> tekeli-li: have you ever installed the android sdk?
[23:22] <tgm4883> tekeli-li: based on the names, they look like a key pair. I'd look inside them and see if they actually are a keypair.
[23:23] <tekeli-li> Snowie, No, I don't do any Android development.
[23:24] <tekeli-li> tgm4883, They appear to be a public/private keypair. I did not generate them, so some process must have done so behind my back.
[23:24] <tekeli-li> Also, this directory is new. I don't know for certain when it appeared, but I know it wasn't always there.
[23:25] <tgm4883> tekeli-li: 'ls -l ~/.android/'
[23:25] <tekeli-li> drwxr-x--- 2 me me 4096 Nov 25 03:51 .android
[23:26] <tgm4883> hmm, a week old
[23:26] <tekeli-li> total 8
[23:26] <tekeli-li> -rw------- 1 me me 1704 Nov 25 03:51 adbkey
[23:26] <tekeli-li> -rw-rw-r-- 1 me me  717 Nov 25 03:51 adbkey.pub
[23:26] <ben_g> I have ubuntu installed on a VM (virtualbox), and it needed to restart to install some updates. After it finished installing, the GUI fails to start, though I can still start a terminal session with ctrl+alt+f1. Is there a way to repair the GUI from there or at least find out what went wrong?
[23:28] <ben_g> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit, in case the version matters
[23:29] <rockwood> hi
[23:30] <el-nino_> ow to get Indic languages on IBUS r what ever may be the GUI character map
[23:30] <rockwood> i am facing this error Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3'. Please check that the PPA name or format is correct.
[23:31] <nacc> rockwood: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[23:33] <tekeli-li> $ file *
[23:33] <tekeli-li> adbkey: ASCII text
[23:33] <tekeli-li> adbkey.pub: ASCII text, with very long lines, with no line terminators
[23:33] <rockwood_> sorry some internet problem
[23:34] <tekeli-li> tgm4883, Snowie ^
[23:34] <Snowie> ben_g: try some of the troubleshooting here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[23:34] <rockwood_> i am using LTS 14.04 UBUNTU
[23:34] <tgm4883> tekeli-li: do you use Firefox?
[23:34] <ben_g> Snowie: thanks
[23:35] <nacc> rockwood: worked fine here
[23:35] <tekeli-li> tgm4883, Yes, the one which was bundled when I installed Ubuntu. I have updated several times since, but this FF is from the Ubuntu repos.
[23:35] <nacc> rockwood: in a 14.04 container
[23:35] <tgm4883> tekeli-li: do you have the adbhelper plugin installed in FF?
[23:35] <rockwood_> nacc ?
[23:35] <rockwood_> i am noob in ubuntu
[23:35] <nacc> rockwood_: yes, i was able to add the repository fine
[23:36] <nacc> rockwood_: please pastebin the exact command and output
[23:37] <rockwood_> nacc -->                         sudo -E add-apt-repository -y ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3
[23:37] <tekeli-li> tgm4883, No, I have noscript and httpseverywhere
[23:37] <R13ose> How do I auto update the Opera Browser?
[23:38] <nacc> R13ose: i don't believe the opera browser is in any ubuntu package
[23:38] <R13ose> nacc: right but there must be a way to auto update
[23:38] <nacc> R13ose: why must there be? contact opera...
[23:39] <R13ose> :D
[23:39] <R13ose> I say so
[23:39] <nacc> rockwood_: i ran that command in the container and it worked fine; are you full up to date already (`apt update; apt full-upgrade`)
[23:39] <rockwood_> nacc  i am anything wrong in command
[23:40] <ben_g> "To check this, in the grub menu edit the kernel line and remove 'splash' from the end of the line" where do I find that?
[23:40] <tekeli-li> tgm4883, Almost forgot, I also have this addon: https://mega.nz/#firefox
[23:41] <genii> rockwood_: drop the -E
[23:41] <rockwood_> genii:
[23:41] <rockwood_> i tried but the same result
[23:42] <rockwood_> apt update is not working
[23:42] <Snowie> ben_g: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[23:42] <nacc> rockwood_: sounds like you have a network issue if `apt update` is not working
[23:42] <kankusht> good evening ubuntu world
[23:43] <nacc> rockwood_: in what way is it not working?
[23:43] <rockwood_> i am pasting my code
[23:43] <nacc> !pastebin | rockwood_
[23:44] <rockwood_> i anot pasting here dont worry
[23:44] <rockwood_> i am not
[23:44] <kankusht> I have doubts with partitioning my disk, I want to install ubuntu along with linux
[23:45] <kankusht> what file system should I use in order to share data between windows and ubuntu?
[23:45] <rockwood_> nacc:  https://paste.ee/p/T82hH  <----- here the code
[23:46] <genii> kankusht: exFAT
[23:47] <kankusht> genii: I thought it was fat32
[23:47] <kankusht> is it the same?
[23:47] <genii> kankusht: fat32 and ntfs filesize limits are far below what exfat now allows
[23:48] <kankusht> genii: ok, is that file system available on gparted?
[23:49] <genii> kankusht: You may need to install exfat-utils before it becomes an option there
[23:49] <kankusht> genii: I don't if can install it in live mode :/
[23:49] <rockwood_> help me guyz
[23:50] <kankusht> genii: I don't know*
[23:50] <rockwood_> lol my mind is going to die
[23:52] <Snowie> rockwood_: not sure if it's the same issue, but I did have problems with my router not handling ipv6 properly. try http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/9940/convince-apt-get-not-to-use-ipv6-method
[23:52] <nacc> rockwood_: it looks like general network issues, ipv6 related
[23:52] <kankusht> I still use ipv4
[23:53] <genii> kankusht: Yes, if you are on livedvd/usb just install it as normal. If you are midway through an install, switch to another console temporarily and install it from there instead
[23:55] <Bashing-om> rockwood_: What results ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' . Interrnet connection working ?
[23:55] <kankusht> genii: thank you very much genii I will give it a try with live cd.
[23:56] <rockwood_> Bashing-om: 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +1 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2016ms
[23:56] <rockwood_> but i am going chatting on same internet connection and easliy doing google
[23:58] <rockwood_> if it is IP version problem then its bad for me
[23:58] <Bashing-om> rockwood_: So much for that huh . We need to find out where networking is failing  . Now what ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' ?
[23:59] <rockwood_> Bashing-om: --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 102.255/109.701/113.963/5.297 ms