[02:07] <Guest94141> ok
[04:14] <jesse__> Hi
[04:15] <jesse__> Anyone there?
[04:24] <jesse__> Hello
[04:25] <jticket> Hello.
[07:44] <Guest68595> Should I disable secure boot in order to install ubuntu
[07:45] <ObrienDave> i think so, can't remember exactly
[07:46] <Guest68595> And has onyone install on an XPS 13?
[07:46] <ObrienDave> try asking in #ubuntu
[07:47] <Guest68595> installing mate but I'll try that
[07:48] <ObrienDave> that question can be answered in #ubuntu. whis channel is more Mate specific :)
[07:48] <ObrienDave> *this
[07:48] <Guest68595> okay thanks
[07:55] <r4y> I am afraid to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but I need to know what the source list should be. I am running Linux Mint 17.2 Mate Desktop Environment 1.10.2
[07:56] <r4y> 	I know where to save it and will not need help changing it. I just want the right list
[08:27] <DerRaiden> r4y: why do you need the source list
[08:28] <r4y> I am looking to the right way to go about doing this
[08:28] <r4y> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&p=14721587
[08:28] <r4y> jump to the bottom of that page
[08:29] <r4y> I am currently reading this link:
[08:29] <r4y> v
[08:29] <r4y> http://www.2daygeek.com/upgrade-linux-mint-17-3-to-linux-mint-18/#
[08:30] <ObrienDave> better to ask in the mint channel on irc.spotchat.org
[08:31] <r4y> Unable to locate package mintupgrade
[08:31] <r4y> I am on the linuxmint channel of freenode as well
[08:32] <ObrienDave> the spotchat channel is the official mint channel
[08:32] <r4y> I figured I might as well make sure to check here as well considering that this is both mate and Linux Mint
[08:32] <ObrienDave> no.... this is Ubuntu Mate. a different animal :)
[08:33] <r4y> I get it now, so now although Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu you have informed me that it is too different
[08:35] <ObrienDave> yes, unfortunately, different distros add too much of their own stuff to be considered identical cores
[09:58] <x2xx3x> I'm on 14.04-mate using marco. i have got a problem with dual monitors. when i switch a video to fullscreen on monitor 2 it changes the screen to monitor 1. I have had a solution for that but cant find it within my local irc-logs. So i am not sure if this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43755/how-to-select-in-what-monitor-youtube-fullscreens was the solution.
[10:02] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: can you give us the paste of xrandr in terminal using paste.ubuntu.com?
[10:04] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: and how you setup the monitors?
[10:04] <x2xx3x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23571876/
[10:04] <pavlushka> I mean in which order in settings?
[10:05] <x2xx3x> order?
[10:06] <x2xx3x> i have got a big one - thats monitor1 (primary monitor) and a smaller one which is right of
[10:07] <x2xx3x> but is shown up as absolute within the x-config-file
[10:09] <x2xx3x> both monitors did not show the same content - monitor 2 is an extension of monitor 1, so it is one big desktop
[10:09] <x2xx3x> is this what u wanted to know?
[10:17] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: yep
[10:18] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: and the web browser you use?
[10:18] <x2xx3x> firefox 50.02
[10:19] <x2xx3x> html5 player did not change screens. so its a flash-thing i guess...
[10:25] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: already tried the second solution of your mentioned askubuntu link?
[10:27] <x2xx3x> ali1234/fullscreenhack ?
[10:29] <pavlushka> yep
[10:29] <ali1234> hey what?
[10:29] <ali1234> i haven't touched that program in like 4 years so it might not work any more
[10:30] <pavlushka> ali1234: oh my
[10:30] <x2xx3x> oh - he is here??
[10:30] <x2xx3x> wtf!!!
[10:30] <x2xx3x> hi
[10:30] <ali1234> yes... im here...
[10:32] <ali1234> yes fullscreenhack will only work with flash
[10:32] <ali1234> the html5 player does not seem to have any problem staying on the right screen for me
[10:33] <x2xx3x> i tried it out now... do i need a reboot? it did not work for me now.
[10:33] <ali1234> you don't need to reboot ut you do need to restart firefox
[10:34] <x2xx3x> i did, but does still not work
[10:35] <ali1234> "With NPAPI the Flash fullscreen window opens on the monitor where the Flash plugin was first opened"
[10:35] <x2xx3x> fullscreen still pops out of the player and opens on primary monitor
[10:35] <ali1234> i remember this now
[10:35] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: another method described here, a bit hard lined, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html
[10:36] <ali1234> x2xx3x: try closing firefox and then starting it. move the firefox window to second monitor before loading a video page, and then go fullscreen
[10:37] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: to revert if the flash stops working after that hack, just reinstall the flash.
[10:39] <x2xx3x> restarting, moving and then go fullscreen also does not work on my machine. hmmmmm
[10:39] <ali1234> note that fullscreenhack doesn't attempt to change which monitor it goes fullscreen on
[10:40] <ali1234> it fixes the bad letterboxing
[10:41] <x2xx3x> aha - so fullscreenhack will have no effect for wrong display shown up flash-vids
[10:42] <x2xx3x> ?
[10:42] <ali1234> it shouldn't do
[10:42] <x2xx3x> what means bad letterboxing?
[10:42] <ali1234> letterboxing all around the video
[10:43] <ali1234> like double letterboxing
[10:43] <ali1234> so video looks like this http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/fullscreenhack/.images/flash-fullscreen-1.jpg
[10:43] <x2xx3x> oh
[10:43] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: tried this, "sudo sed -i 's/_NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW/_AET_ACTIVE_WINDOW/g' /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so" ?
[10:43] <x2xx3x> no that was not my problem :)
[10:46] <x2xx3x> pavalushka: i did now try out the sed... also with no effect
[10:47] <x2xx3x> i got an update... i wants me to reboot. i will be back on in i few seconds..
[10:48] <pavlushka> x2xx3x: as it appears that flash is set to show videos fullscreen to primary monitor.
[10:50] <x2xx3x> yay... now monitor 2 is my primary...
[10:52] <x2xx3x> hmm - changed it in the x settings and changed back again .. now the monitors are in correct order again..
[10:52] <x2xx3x> the flash thing still doesnt work..
[10:53] <x2xx3x> should i install a different version of flash?
[10:59] <x2xx3x> or can i change that settings of my current flash somehow?
[11:02] <idan_> hello i need your help, I can't get audio throguh hdmi in my new ubuntu mate 16.10
[12:38] <hender> ok
[14:07] <chanchitos> hi there
[14:17] <RedB> Hi I'm using Ubuntu-Mate 16.10 in Dutch and I saw some awful translationsmistakes. Where can I get involved to solve this? I would love to help.
[14:17] <ouroumov> Hi RedB
[14:18] <RedB> Hi :-)
[14:18] <ouroumov> I'm looking for the link
[14:20] <ouroumov> RedB, https://www.transifex.com/ubuntu-mate/public/
[14:21] <ouroumov> RedB, that's for UM specific stuff
[14:21] <ouroumov> RedB, however if the problem comes from upstream MATE, you want to look here: https://www.transifex.com/mate/MATE/
[14:22] <ouroumov> RedB, also some how-tos here: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/translation
[14:23] <RedB> Well i think i can manage with all this! thanks @ouroumov!
[14:24] <ouroumov> Thanks to you RedB :)
[14:48] <panels> hello, i just installed ubuntu mate 16.04, and suddenly i noticed, both top and bottom panels have vanished - how do i get those back?
[14:49] <ali1234> what happens when you right click on the desktop?
[14:51] <panels> the menu that usually appears, does appear, create folder, create launcher ... change desktop background
[14:51] <ali1234> got "new terminal"?
[14:53] <panels> not exactly "new terminal", "Open in Terminal", thus yes i have access to terminal
[14:54] <ali1234> okay, open a terminal and run "mate-panel"
[14:54] <panels> "Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running."
[14:56] <ali1234> try "mate-panel --reset"
[14:56] <ali1234> that will reset your configuration
[14:58] <panels> i can see the desktop icons move little bit - but the panels won't appear
[14:58] <ali1234> try "mate-panel --replace"
[15:01] <panels> "Unable to open desktop file /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop for panel launcher: No such file or directory" - i have removed firefox , mate-panel --replace can't finish due to that
[15:04] <panels> maybe i should reinstall firefox
[15:07] <panels> but regardless it seems mate-panel is too dependent on certain applications being installed
[15:08] <ali1234> i doubt that is the actual problem
[15:09] <ouroumov> try anyway
[15:12] <panels> no error occurs now, but mate-panel --replace just hangs - and no panels
[15:13] <panels> oh
[15:13] <panels> "Panel leaving: a new panel shell is starting.  (mate-panel:8004): EggSMClient-CRITICAL **: egg_sm_client_set_mode: assertion 'global_client == NULL || global_client_mode == EGG_SM_CLIENT_MODE_DISABLED' failed"
[15:13] <panels> and no panels
[15:15] <ouroumov> I'm wondering if this might be a screen size issue, like the panels are here but out of sight
[15:16] <ouroumov> Since you have terminal access, you can try creating a new user then log in with the new user
[15:16] <ouroumov> sudo adduser dummy
[15:16] <panels> i do happen to have second  screen, and panels have reappared there, but not into this monitor
[15:16] <ouroumov> Panels don't span dual monitors
[15:17] <ouroumov> You have to add new panels to the new monitor
[15:18] <panels> go figure, i haven't selected anything like span displays nor mirroring but by default ubuntu mate was mirroring the displays from getgo
[15:19] <panels> then at some point, the panels just vanished from my main monitor and i didn't remember to check situation on another screen
[15:37] <tgm4883> Using 16.10, how can I stop Mate from disabling my second monitor when a game goes full screen?
[17:01] <Guest68634> hi
[17:32] <mate|10487> Hi Everyone
[17:34] <mate|10487> Can I ask someone a question please?