[10:16] <brobostigon> morning boys nd girls.
[14:17] <foobarry> having terrible time with talktalk
[14:17] <diddledan> :-(
[14:18] <foobarry> anyone know more about this router hack problem? i have a huawi hg523a i think
[14:18] <diddledan> I don't know any more than the article I shared with you yesterday, unfortunately
[14:18] <foobarry> TalkTalk and other internet providers stopped providing connections to users after they were hit by a huge cyber attack.
[14:21] <foobarry> under my wan settings i see 2 connections and 2 public IPs
[14:21] <foobarry> thought that was weird
[14:21] <zmoylan-pi> can you not just replace the supplied router with another one?
[14:22] <diddledan> "Most cyber crime is about money. But every now and then there are bad guys who just want to watch the world burn."
[14:23] <diddledan> seems if you're hit then your connection is cut completely by the worm
[14:23] <zmoylan-pi> like the early virus writers in the 80s...
[14:23] <diddledan> yup
[14:24] <diddledan> and the guy that bruce's willi went after who attempted a fire sale.
[14:24] <diddledan> oh, no, that was about money, too.
[14:25] <zmoylan-pi> but lots of hacks like this gets people nicely wound up and more accepting of the spys charter
[14:26] <diddledan> yup
[14:26] <diddledan> that's why terrorism wins
[14:27] <zmoylan-pi> oh noes, protect us from the evil haxors with legal ones!!
[14:28] <zmoylan-pi> meh, i remember bomb scares in dublin in 1970s.  my father told me something very wise as i tried to pull him out of shop that was been cleared... 'you're far more likely to be hurt in a panic than an actual attack'
[14:28] <diddledan> apparently new legislation in the US allows the agencies to "hack" anyone who has fallen victim to a virus or worm because the malware does bad things
[14:29] <zmoylan-pi> break out your commodores and spectrums... it's time to go old school :-D
[14:29] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: I'm so glad the troubles are less prevalent now
[14:29] <diddledan> the good friday agreement ftw
[14:29] <zmoylan-pi> which may be killed by brexit...
[14:30] <diddledan> yeah I heard about that - it's based on the EU human rights thingy isn't it?
[14:30] <diddledan> so not being a party to the charter means the agreement gets nullified afair
[14:31] <zmoylan-pi> the agreement affects a lot of things and took years to finalise and negotiate... now it'll have to be done all over again...
[14:32] <diddledan> of course the idiots that voted for brexit didn't even consider the impact on things like that
[14:32] <zmoylan-pi> well they were lied to good and proper... and the liars can now sit back and say it has nothing to do with them
[14:33] <diddledan> well the pro-brexit liers aren't part of government so in effect it is nothing to do with them now
[14:33] <zmoylan-pi> boris did well out of it
[14:33] <diddledan> and then there's complaints over the government not having a plan for the thing they didn't want to happen
[14:34] <diddledan> yeah, Boris is doing well
[14:34] <diddledan> Trump 2.0
[14:34] <zmoylan-pi> another buffoon with weird hair
[14:34] <diddledan> +1
[14:35] <ali1234> boris is nothing at all like trump
[14:35] <ali1234> except for they both have stupid hair
[14:35] <zmoylan-pi> he is intelligent, i'll give him that...
[14:36] <zmoylan-pi> he got into quoting poetry at our president who finished every poem he started
[14:36] <ali1234> he also has a functioning sense of humour
[14:36] <diddledan> yeah I like Boris for the fun factor
[14:36] <zmoylan-pi> kinda makes him more dangerous
[21:34] <daftykins> hmm seems Guernsey has decided to abolish the 11+ system at long last, at age 11 kids do a test and are sent to a school based on their ability, it's caused massive labellings of "you're a failure" vs. "you passed" for years
[21:34] <daftykins> lazily just repeated that here, the explanation part was to americans in other channels :)
[21:34]  * penguin42 failed that, didn't get into grammar school (and still came out with a PhD in the end)
[21:34] <daftykins> i suspect most will have heard of it
[21:37] <zmoylan-pi> i got exactly on the cusp for the irish variant in early 80s... i got to pick what school i wanted...
[21:58] <daftykins> my my
[21:58] <daftykins> what were the choices?
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> secondry schools state or religious.  the religious ones have better reputation
[22:11] <daftykins> are they mixed gender?
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> a better class of beatings... :-P
[22:12] <zmoylan-pi> back then all single sex schools, became mixed gender as i was leaving
[22:17] <daftykins> almost finished Voyager season 1, ah
[22:18] <zmoylan-pi> it was a short season
[22:18] <zmoylan-pi> i currently have 6 on my media player...
[22:18] <daftykins> ah har
[22:18] <zmoylan-pi> when the borg start showing up it got interesting
[22:23] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:48] <penguin42> ok, who broke libavcodec?
[22:48] <daftykins> it was like that when i got here, i swear!
[22:49] <zmoylan-pi> on the plus side all those feckin gifs stopped playing in the browser...
[22:49] <daftykins> o0
[22:50] <zmoylan-pi> works in some tabs, not others...
[22:50] <zmoylan-pi> i'd look at fixing it but then there would just be more animated gifs... so you can see why i'm not in a hurry
[22:51] <penguin42> now I need to go and figure out how to get my parents machines to watch h264 cctv cam again
[22:51] <zmoylan-pi> try a different browser?
[22:52] <daftykins> kodi \o/
[22:56] <daftykins> bed for me, ta-ra \o
[22:59] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: I don't actually think it's ff's fault; it looks like there's a real libav bug and it's not been updated in the (non-free?) packages
[23:00] <penguin42> hmm, although it's working on my 16.10 box
[23:08] <penguin42> what I'm a bit surprised about is that it's moaning about it for an h264 which is probably using ff's inbuilt decoder