 don't expect an answer tonight, but I'll ask anyway
 K
 opinions on copying 5.8.4 and FW 5.28 over to -landing?
 i.e. anyone who has tested upgrades on those?
 I'm still using them with no issues
 seems pretty much ok here in a 16.04 VM
 Though on 16.19
 not tried 16.10 yet
 *16.10
 unless there are showstoppers, then I would proably say kopy over then in next day or so and carry on testing a few upgrades from the single ppa.
 It should not have any breaks
 SHOULD
 you mean you don't think it has, or that you say it musn't?
[00:10] <tsimonq2> I think it's fine.
[00:11] <tsimonq2> Let's move to landing.
[00:12] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Are you ok with me doing a round of just general testing (poking around) and then copying, or should we wait to hear from Santa?
 I would perhaps err on the side of caution and and give people a little time to pipe up with objections. just in case.
 not that it would be a hude disaster with things infixable if we did, but just do it say tommorow when most have had a chance to read this in their logs
 *huge *unfixable
 night all
[00:25] <tsimonq2> Ok acheronuk
[00:25] <tsimonq2> Night
[00:32] <valorie> tsimonq2: did you get your question answered?
[00:32]  * valorie just returned from a memorial service
[00:34] <tsimonq2> valorie: How did you guys update the !ninjas flag
[00:34] <tsimonq2> ?
[00:34] <tsimonq2> valorie: And can wxl be a ninja yet? XD
[00:37] <valorie> um, I think I had Unit193 do it in the #ubuntu-ops channel
[00:37] <valorie> I think we need to update that, yes
[00:38] <valorie> as well as our !testers flag
[00:38] <tsimonq2> valorie: wxl asked on the kubuntu-devel list, soooooo when can he finally be a ninja? XD
[00:38] <tsimonq2> Ah yes, we should send out something on the mailing list, also maybe a blog post...
[00:38] <valorie> did he get an answer on the list?
[00:38] <valorie> I'll ping if not
[00:38] <tsimonq2> Nope
[00:39] <valorie> ok
[00:48] <valorie> ok, posted to the list
[01:02] <valorie> > pizza
 Same lol
[01:25] <tsimonq2> Omg I'm literally eating pizza too XD
 Hai from a default Zesty install. :D
 (Photo, 1280x1024) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/a3Dl4JCc/file_1272.jpg
 Ooooh
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/IkHEHtki/file_1274.jpg
 Yep 5.8
 O
 M
 G
 Wow
 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
 :D
 (Photo, 1280x1024) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/DVPW2J0F/file_1276.jpg
 -landing?
[02:30] <tsimonq2> Nope
[02:31] <tsimonq2> This is staging-*
 Oh
[04:29] <valorie> tsimonq2: how did you get your face on the login?
[04:41] <[Relic]> stapled it to the screen?
[04:47] <valorie> ha
[04:48] <valorie> [Relic]: I was referring to this: https://irc-attachments.kde.org/IkHEHtki/file_1274.jpg
 Changed the account photo valorie
 Pretty simple
[04:49] <[Relic]> system settings accounts and adda picture
 Yep
[04:52] <valorie> oh cool
[04:55] <tsimonq2> valorie: No actually.
[04:55] <tsimonq2> valorie: It's a file in my home dir that automatically gets used by SDDM
[04:55] <tsimonq2> valorie: I hate GUI settings ;)
[04:55]  * wxl stretches
[04:55] <valorie> where then?
[04:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: OHAI THERE
[04:56]  * tsimonq2 looks
[04:56] <wxl> hey tsimonq2 whattaup?
[04:56] <valorie> system online accounts keeps erroring out on me
[04:56] <tsimonq2> wxl: Nothing much you?
[04:56] <tsimonq2> valorie: .face.icon
[04:56] <wxl> nuttin much
[04:56] <tsimonq2> cool cool
[04:57] <tsimonq2> Just finished getting some financial stuff done
[04:57] <wxl> did a bunch of chores and christmas stuff (lights are up), took a nap with the kitty, and now i'm back at it
[04:57] <wxl> the girls left me so trying to make some stuff happen
[04:57] <tsimonq2> Yah know, figuring out what spending money I have etc.
[04:57] <wxl> look at you, growing up to be such a responsible boy :)
[04:57] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:57] <tsimonq2> Oh cool
[04:57] <tsimonq2> Where's the sexy armrest? XDDD
[04:58] <wxl> downstairs acting weird
[04:58] <tsimonq2> Oh?
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jBoPUxvO/file_1278.jpg
 There you go tsimonq2
[05:01] <tsimonq2> So what about the picture? :PO
[05:01] <tsimonq2> *:P
 Sexy armrest
[05:01] <tsimonq2> Noo you don't understand XD
[05:02] <wxl> it's my doggy, ahoneybun 
[05:02] <wxl> she loves to be an armrest when i'm on the computer
[05:02] <wxl> and she's soooo cute
 Lol
 Fwd from wxl23: Wait one more naked picture
[05:03] <wxl> XD
[05:03] <tsimonq2> Aw jeez
[05:03] <tsimonq2> Forwarded the message that came with it, not the picture
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/YGTltlR8/file_1279.jpg
[05:04] <tsimonq2> Look at that sweet little thing XDDD
[05:04]  * tsimonq2 points at wxl
[05:05] <tsimonq2> wxl: OMG what kind of table is that? That looks slick
[05:05] <wxl> oh it's a marble coffee table
[05:05] <wxl> don't remember where we got that
[05:06] <wxl> i treasure that blanket more, though
[05:06] <tsimonq2> Oh?
[05:06] <wxl> pendleton is the best
[05:06] <tsimonq2> wxl: See my screenshots before?
[05:07] <wxl> nuh uh
 (Photo, 1280x1024) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/b08uyYVp/file_1272.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/2AIJNU8f/file_1274.jpg
 Fwd from tsimonq2: ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
 Fwd from tsimonq2: :D
 (Photo, 1280x1024) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/SQVJ8OVH/file_1276.jpg
 Fwd from ahoneybun: -landing?
 Fwd from tsimonq2: <tsimonq2> Nope
 Fwd from tsimonq2: <tsimonq2> This is staging-*
[05:09] <wxl> that sddm is sexy
[05:12] <tsimonq2> wxl: Enough that you'll update all your work computers? XDD
[05:12] <wxl> no
[05:13] <tsimonq2> :P
[05:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdevelop build #21: STILL FAILING in 7 min 11 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdevelop/21/
[06:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdevplatform build #34: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdevplatform/34/
[06:11] <valorie> !info sphinx
[06:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdevplatform build #35: STILL FAILING in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdevplatform/35/
[06:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdevelop build #22: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdevelop/22/
[06:37] <ahoneybun> valorie: it's a python package
[06:37] <ahoneybun> !info python3-sphinx
[06:38] <valorie> right, i read a bit more and realized that
[06:38] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[17:21] <santa_> acheronuk, tsimonq2: I'm ok with the moving to -landing
[17:33] <acheronuk> kopy done then I hope
[18:06] <mparillo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing for ZZ? Will anything happen if I had already Plasma 5.8.4 and frameworks from -staging? Or are the -landing version numbers bumped so I will see a ton of updates?
[18:08] <ahoneybun> I would add the -landing, remove staging stuff and then apt update
[18:26] <acheronuk> mparillo: backports-landing
[18:29] <acheronuk> mparillo: the packages are a direct copy over, so the copied ones won't be an update if you already had staging enabled
[18:36] <mparillo> backports-landing? That would be for 16.04 and 16.10, right? And even if it were in ZZ,and I sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing I would not get anything without purging, and it is the same packages and same version?
[18:37] <acheronuk> mparillo: oh, ZZ. well ppa-landing will have nothing in there for ZZ. pointless adding it
[18:38] <mparillo> TY. And I got Plasma 5.8.4 and updated frameworks from -staging anyway.
[18:39] <acheronuk> fort ZZ the dev release, they will go straight from staging to an archive upload when it gets done. no need for a ppa
[19:09] <ahoneybun> 5.8.4 and 5.29 here I come!
 ahoneybun: 5.28...
 By the time A cycle comes around, I'll be a MOTU already! 😂
[19:47] <wxl> anyone here really grok git submodules?
 What about them?
[20:27] <acheronuk> LP bug #1647204