[00:21] <anonan> hi everyone. i'm trying to install xenial in UEFI boot mode, with / and /boot on a common ZFS zpool on top of luks. I can get grub2 to unlock the luks container via password prompt, but from there, the initrd image does not seem to try to unlock the luks container again
[00:22] <anonan> i've tried asking in #ubuntu, and there noone could help me. i suspect that my desired setup is far from common, and that maybe there's a bug keeping me from progressing (there have been a few already i had to work around)
[00:22] <anonan> that's why i figured that maybe it would be appropriate to ask here. i'm willing to put work into it, but i'm lost right now.
[00:22] <anonan> it seems that, no matter what i try, i can't get update-initramfs to include cryptsetup in the initrd
[00:26] <anonan> if that's more appropriate, i'd also be happy to post this to a mailing list, if you could point me to the one that would be most appropriate
[00:35] <tsimonq2> anonan: Hello! :)
[00:35] <tsimonq2> Let's see if ubottu can make this easy... :)
[00:35] <tsimonq2> !mailing
[00:35] <tsimonq2> Hmm
[00:35] <tsimonq2> !lists
[00:35] <tsimonq2> Bah, stupid bot.
[00:36] <tsimonq2> anonan: Here you are: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[00:36] <tsimonq2> anonan: This isn't the right channel for this question, and they might be able to help you better there. I would also CC the ubuntu-server list. :)
[00:38] <anonan> tsimonq2: thanks for the recommendation! why would you CC ubuntu-server, specifically? i'm trying to set this up on a laptop, though i guess it doesn't matter much?
[00:39] <tsimonq2> anonan: Because the server people have set up wacky little things like this, they'll have the expertise to help you if the ubuntu-users people can't. :)
[00:39] <anonan> tsimonq2: i see. i don't post on mailing lists often, is it considered okay if i post to both at the same time?
[00:40] <anonan> (somewhat implied by the CC, but wanted to make sure)
[00:40] <tsimonq2> anonan: Well, scratch that, put both as "To:"
[00:40] <tsimonq2> anonan: Id say that in this case, yes. :)
[00:40] <tsimonq2> *I'd
[00:43] <anonan> thank you very much, i'll post there!
[08:17] <mitya57> Can some archive team member please process bug 1646867 and decruft gnome-panel, to help it migrate?
[08:17] <mitya57> (cjwatson, maybe you? ^^)
[13:37] <Laney> doko: nice, -Wl,--compress-debug-sections made a ppc64el build work as well
[16:03]  * tsimonq2 looks around for patch pilot
[16:04] <tsimonq2> !info sddm zesty
[16:04] <tsimonq2> !info sddm yakkety
[16:04] <tsimonq2> !info sddm xenial
[16:05] <tsimonq2> I've prepared an SDDM with several fixes, it just needs to be uploaded to Zesty, Yakkety, AND Xenial. For the latter two, I'd like to start the SRU procedure, but the former can go right into Zesty.
[16:05]  * tsimonq2 throws https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/sddm-fixes/+packages at whoever wants to upload it.
[16:06] <tsimonq2> Just got an email about it, and that made me remember that I totally forgot!
[16:07] <tsimonq2> I also have bug 1647130 and bug 1647128 that need to be looked at. ;)
[16:08] <tsimonq2> Many thanks to whoever helps me out! :)
[16:08]  * tsimonq2 goes AFK for 9 hours, work calls
[16:45] <dbb> hi all - what process at Canonical decides which python updates are shipped in "required" system updates
[16:45] <dbb> I have a project in Python 2.7x and I do NOT want the environment destabilized with daily security things
[16:45] <dbb> 16.04
[16:45] <dbb> e.g. pip changes today
[18:28] <mitya57> Laney, in at-spi2-core 2.22.0-4 a crash was fixed, can we sync it, or do you prefer to keep reverting that patch?
[18:37] <Laney> mitya57: Not sure, what do you think?
[18:37] <Laney> It's probably not actively breaking things any more since it got changed
[18:37] <Laney> the overall approach seemed dodgy to me though
[18:38] <mitya57> Laney, I know nothing about that patch, just noted that a crash was fixed, looked at the changelog and found you :)
[18:38] <Laney> that function is supposed to be called from some signal handler, so if it's not then there's probably a problem there and forcefully calling it early works around that
[18:38]  * Laney shrugs, don't know
[18:38] <Laney> you can sync it if you want
[18:38] <mitya57> OK, let's keep it as is for now then
[18:39] <Laney> mitya57: don't really care that much if the new patch doesn't break stuff though
[18:39]  * Laney isn't in the business of picking up new stuff to maintain :)
[18:39] <Laney> so go for it
[18:40] <mitya57> Let's sync it only when we really need it, i.e. if other bugs are fixed
[18:41] <Laney> mitya57: oh right, the crash that was fixed was in the same patch that I disabled
[18:42] <Laney> in fact it is the reason I disabled it :)
[18:42] <mitya57> in fact it is the reason why I asked you about it :)
[18:43] <Laney> I thought you meant that there was some other crash fix and you were asking me if that one is still important
[18:57] <mitya57> tsimonq2, you may want to check your sddm changes with yofel who has some commits in Git on top of the current upload.
[18:58] <mitya57> I will not sponsor it because I am not sure why yofel removed upstream_autologin_fallback.diff without any changelog message for that.
[18:58] <mitya57> tsimonq2, also, please avoid the unnecessary "rebasing" of the patches, it is just useless noise in the diff
[19:01] <mitya57> tsimonq2, FWIW Ubuntu Git branch is https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git/?h=kubuntu_unstable
[21:51] <rlaager> pitti: I've just noticed that ntpd in Ubuntu associates with a LOT of NTP servers by default, at least initially, or at least sometimes. (Run `ntpq -p`.) I've seen as high as 17 in limited testing in the last hour. This seems to trace back to the existence of 5 pool lines in ntp.conf, which was introduced by Technical Board decision and LP #104525, which you were involved in. Was this effect intentional?
[22:11] <dbb> Q. A Technical Board decision is involved with how python 2.7 maintenance is executed for Ubuntu 16.04 ?   where might I look for that ?
[23:44] <cjwatson> dbb: that seems unlikely; you're probably looking for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[23:58] <dbb> cjwatson: ah looking