[04:46] <Langjan> Morning Kilos howzit
[04:50] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[04:51] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[04:51] <Langjan> OK thks just burned the midnight oil then got lost
[04:51] <Kilos> lol
[04:52] <Kilos> what do you need to know with kde
[04:52] <Kilos> took me a while to get used to it, but once you are familiar with it it works better
[04:53] <Langjan> For starters this thing says proprietary drivers might be required to enable additional features
[04:53] <Kilos> yes then just tick it
[04:53] <Kilos> and it will look for drivers for graphics cards etc
[04:53] <Langjan> refresh driver list? or just ok
[04:53] <Kilos> ok
[04:54] <Kilos> if you have nvidia graphics card then install nvidia-current
[04:55] <Langjan> Have no idea what graphics
[04:55] <Kilos> using the propriety ones you sometimes need to do a reinstall after kernel upgrades
[04:55] <Kilos> it will tell you
[04:55] <Kilos> oh maybe you should have done the refresh thing
[04:55] <Kilos> then it looks for drivers
[04:56] <Langjan> make up your mind, I dont have one here
[04:56] <Kilos> click the launcher and type in drivers
[04:57] <Langjan> I wanted to make a short cut to her documents then it tells me to enter file name and path  
[04:57] <Kilos> then tick additional drivers
[04:57] <Langjan> ok one thing at a time 
[04:57] <Langjan> whwres the launcher 
[04:57] <Kilos> they blue K bottom left
[04:58] <Kilos> everything is found from there
[04:58] <Kilos> when you got time explore all it can do
[04:58] <Langjan> nothing there about additional drivers
[04:59] <Kilos> type in additional then
[04:59] <Kilos> mine shows it
[05:00] <Langjan> type in where
[05:00] <Kilos> when you tick the blue k type
[05:00] <Kilos> it goes in at the top of the window
[05:00] <Kilos> thing
[05:00] <Langjan> ?
[05:01] <Langjan> no place to type
[05:01] <Langjan> or search
[05:02] <Langjan> im having a nightmare
[05:03] <Kilos> nee man
[05:03] <Kilos> when you tick the blue K bottom left it opens a small window
[05:04] <Kilos> at the top is a line where you can type in
[05:04] <Kilos> maybe you need to tick it to focus
[05:04] <Langjan> it opens a menu but no type box
[05:05] <Kilos> what
[05:05] <Langjan> also it says new version available must I upgrade?
[05:05] <Kilos> doesnt it say search at the top
[05:05] <Langjan> no
[05:05] <Langjan> it says help
[05:06] <Langjan> at top and at bottom 
[05:06] <Kilos> can you type in there
[05:06] <Langjan> so obviously if you use kde you need lots of help
[05:06] <Kilos> no man
[05:06] <Kilos> have you updated/upgraded
[05:07] <Langjan> no
[05:07] <Langjan> only updates installed
[05:07] <Langjan>  no upgrade
[05:07] <Langjan> no place to type there either
[05:07] <Kilos> open a terminal
[05:08] <Kilos> do you see a terminal/konsole in that launcher
[05:08] <Langjan> run command
[05:08] <Langjan> yes
[05:08] <Kilos> type in sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[05:10] <Langjan> terminal disappears when I enter
[05:12] <Langjan> it does not look like a terminal
[05:12] <Langjan> just a little box
[05:12] <Kilos> which kde have you installed
[05:13] <Langjan> 14.04
[05:13] <Kilos> open another terminal
[05:13] <Langjan> it gives E: The update command takes no arguments
[05:14] <Kilos> try just sudo apt update
[05:15] <Langjan> does not do anything
[05:15] <Kilos> huh
[05:15] <Kilos> wat maak jy daar oom
[05:16] <Langjan> probeer 'n kak installasie doen
[05:16] <Kilos> you type in update and it does nothing?
[05:16] <Langjan> yes cursor just goes to next line
[05:16] <Kilos> are you connected to the internet
[05:16] <Langjan> yes
[05:16] <Kilos> type in ping 8.8.8.8
[05:16] <Langjan>  sudo apt-get update same result
[05:17] <Kilos> dont use apt-get any more
[05:18] <Kilos> sudo apt update
[05:18] <Kilos> then sudo apt upgrade
[05:18] <Langjan> yes I know just tried it in case 
[05:18] <Langjan> ping 8.8.8.8 same result
[05:18] <Kilos> reboot it
[05:18] <Kilos> sudo reboot
[05:19] <Langjan> same result no result
[05:19] <Langjan> shall I reboot and try start again?
[05:20] <Kilos> yes
[05:20] <Kilos> did you reboot after the install?
[05:20] <Kilos> weird that terminal not working
[05:20] <Langjan> Yes I did, ok at least that works
[05:20] <Langjan> rebooting
[05:20] <Langjan> again
[05:20] <Kilos> lol
[05:21] <Langjan> developing an allergy
[05:21] <Kilos> then open terminal and type in sudo touch /forcefsck
[05:21] <Kilos> thats weird man, mine just work everytime
[05:22] <Kilos> first time i hear of a konsole not working
[05:22] <Kilos> kde call a terminal konsole
[05:22] <Langjan> ok done
[05:22] <Kilos> you done the fsck
[05:23] <Kilos> then reboot
[05:23] <Langjan> ja man
[05:23] <Kilos> it will do a file system check on booting
[05:23] <Langjan> ok it worked
[05:23] <Kilos> ok then open konsole
[05:24] <Langjan> quick Q on the side
[05:24] <Kilos> type in sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt upgrade'
[05:24] <Kilos> yes?
[05:24] <Kilos> nono
[05:24] <Kilos> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[05:24] <Langjan> her docs were 16 GB but when loaded it only shows 12
[05:25] <Kilos> docs from where
[05:25] <Langjan> backed up from win xp
[05:25] <Kilos> do you have the original folder
[05:25] <Langjan> terminal running on update upgrade
[05:25] <Kilos> ok so 16g on xp
[05:26] <Kilos> and 12g on ubuntu
[05:26] <Langjan> its still on ext hard driibe and backed up on my machine
[05:26] <Langjan> it shows 16 GB on my machine
[05:26] <Kilos> does it show 12g on your machine
[05:26] <Kilos> oh
[05:27] <Kilos> first get everything upgraded etc then worry about docs
[05:27] <Kilos> as long as you have the whole 16g on your machine thats good
[05:27] <Langjan> ok doing uatoremove
[05:27] <Langjan> done
[05:28] <Kilos> no wait man
[05:28] <Kilos> that auto remove you can do anytime
[05:28] <Kilos> anyway 
[05:28] <Langjan> terminal said do autoremove
[05:29] <Langjan> anyway its done update and upgrade
[05:29] <Kilos> ok and now konsole works?
[05:29] <Langjan> yes
[05:30] <Kilos> ok now see if you start launcher can you type in additional drivers in the little top window
[05:30] <Langjan> no
[05:30] <Kilos> eish
[05:32] <Langjan> it says system update available and new version also available
[05:32] <Langjan> in notifications
[05:32] <Kilos> leave the new version 
[05:33] <Langjan> my allergy is aggravating
[05:33] <Kilos> but update if it wants to
[05:34] <Langjan> if I go to update it wants to upgrade
[05:34] <Kilos> lolol
[05:35] <Kilos> upgrade to the new version or just upgrade 14.04
[05:35] <Kilos> look what it wants to upgrade
[05:36] <Kilos> we should just install teamviewer and i can do it for you
[05:36] <Langjan> that notification has disappreared
[05:37] <Kilos> ah 
[05:37] <Kilos> thats because is just saw you upgraded
[05:37] <Langjan> maybe 
[05:37] <Kilos> ok
[05:38] <Kilos> how much space have you on drive
[05:38] <Langjan> its smaal, 40 GB about 50% used
[05:38] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:38] <Kilos> ok do the autoremove
[05:39] <Kilos> that will save a bit
[05:39] <Kilos> gimme a few mins please
[05:39] <Langjan> already done autoremove
[05:41] <Kilos> ok
[05:42] <Kilos> right what next'
[05:42] <Langjan> I want to put a short cut to her documents on the desktop 
[05:43] <Kilos> do you see the small window desktop
[05:43] <Langjan> small window desktop?
[05:43] <Langjan> I see the icon, right click gives options
[05:44] <Langjan> then create new
[05:44] <Kilos> yes on the whole screen you should see a smallish window top left
[05:44] <Langjan> then variuous link options
[05:45] <Langjan> small window top right says desktop
[05:45] <Kilos> anyway that window gets removed too easy imo
[05:45] <Langjan> ?
[05:46] <Kilos> you see the whole blue screen
[05:46] <Kilos> it should show a 3 inch by 3 inch window as desktop on the top left corner
[05:47] <Langjan> that little window gives shortcut settings etc
[05:47] <Langjan> its top right corner
[05:47] <Kilos> you can right click create new folder
[05:47] <Kilos> call it docs
[05:47] <Kilos> 3 by 3 ?
[05:48] <Langjan> no
[05:48] <Langjan> run command 
[05:48] <Kilos> then its gone hiding already
[05:48] <Langjan> add widgets
[05:48] <Langjan> add panel
[05:48] <Langjan> activities 
[05:48] <Langjan> those are the options 
[05:48] <Langjan> and lock widgets
[05:49] <Kilos> ill try get you a screenshot when i change drives
[05:49] <Langjan> lock screen '
[05:49] <Kilos> i think you did a bad install there
[05:49] <Kilos> nee man nie daai goed nie
[05:49] <Langjan> wel daars niks links bo nie
[05:50] <Kilos> should be a small window about 1/3 the size of the screen
[05:50] <Langjan> niks nie
[05:50] <Kilos> ai!
[05:51] <Kilos> anyway if you fiddle in it and tick wrong stuff it goes into hiding
[05:51] <Kilos> ok
[05:51] <Kilos> so
[05:51] <Kilos> go to launcher
[05:51] <Kilos> then hover over computer
[05:51] <Kilos> then tick home
[05:52] <Kilos> in home you will see options
[05:52] <Kilos> one is desktop
[05:52] <Kilos> tick that
[05:52] <Langjan> no computer in menu
[05:52] <Kilos> eish
[05:53] <Kilos> lemme do screenshot
[05:53] <Langjan> now I have search term via three colored dots next to K
[05:54] <Kilos> favourites, applications, computer , recently used and leave
[05:54] <Kilos> do you see that
[05:54] <Langjan> no
[05:54] <Kilos> what have you done
[05:54] <Langjan> only favorites
[05:54] <Langjan> foloowed advice to use kde
[05:55] <Kilos> wat maak die oom
[05:55] <Kilos> ya but you doing it with bad feelings man
[05:55] <Langjan> no then I would not have done it
[05:55] <Kilos> that isnt a good install so far
[05:56] <Kilos> open terminal and type in sudo apt install aptitude
[05:56] <Langjan> I will have to leave you shortly
[05:56] <Kilos> ok ill be here on and off all day
[05:57] <Kilos> then type in sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[05:57] <Langjan> how do you open a terminal in this damn thing?
[05:57] <Kilos> when you tick the launcher do you see the search block at the top
[05:57] <Langjan> run command gives that silly little box again
[05:57] <Kilos> and konsole is there too
[05:58] <Kilos> when you get back give me a shout and we try sort it
[05:58] <Kilos> i would install from scratch'
[05:59] <Kilos> are you using whole drive for kde
[05:59] <Kilos> or running alongside
[05:59] <Langjan> aptitude installling
[05:59] <Langjan> whole drive
[06:00] <Kilos> ok
[06:00] <Langjan> now it gives new version of kubuntu option again
[06:00] <Kilos> i have no idea how it can be 50% used then
[06:01] <Kilos> i have 14.04 on an 8g stick
[06:01] <Kilos> yes it nags with that till you turn it off
[06:01] <Langjan> well 40 GB drive with 16 GB docs leaves about 20GB free almost 50%
[06:01] <Kilos> oh the docs there already?
[06:01] <Langjan> yes
[06:01] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:02] <Kilos> never put the cart before the horses man
[06:02] <Langjan>  but shows up as 20 GB strange
[06:02] <Kilos> you like getting everyone into the car before you put the wheels on
[06:02] <Langjan> well the thing was installed
[06:03] <Langjan> didnt know kde comes in drips and drabs
[06:03] <Kilos> no man
[06:03] <Kilos> ai!
[06:03] <Kilos> jy kan bly wees jy so ver
[06:04] <Langjan> met my allergie ja
[06:04] <Kilos> lol
[06:04] <Langjan> lmga!
[06:04] <Kilos> you actually need to play on a working kde and get used to it then you will see how lekker it is
[06:05] <Kilos> and you always have hassles when installing
[06:05] <Langjan> so is upgrade not an option to try? 
[06:05] <Kilos> not the one to 16.04 no
[06:05] <Langjan> ok
[06:05] <Kilos> what are the pc specs
[06:05] <Langjan> I dont have such hassles installing ubuntu 
[06:06] <Kilos> if its fast you can install 16.04
[06:06] <Kilos> yes you did you just got used to it now and forgot your hassles
[06:06] <Langjan> I upgraded ram from 512 to 1 GB
[06:06] <Kilos> ai!
[06:06] <Kilos> always try have over 2g ram
[06:07] <Kilos> otherwise things are slow
[06:07] <Langjan> ja man thats all I had
[06:07] <Kilos> i have 4g and would like 8g
[06:07] <Langjan> its not running slow
[06:07] <Kilos> good then its quite a fast pc
[06:07] <Langjan> Good little Fujitsu
[06:08] <Langjan> Amilo pro
[06:08] <Kilos> have you done aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <Langjan> no it seems to be stuck on processing triggers for libc-bin 
[06:09] <Kilos> patience
[06:09] <Kilos> thats where more ram works
[06:09] <Kilos> things happen quicker
[06:10] <Langjan> dont have time will let it run then contact you later today
[06:10] <Kilos> ok
[06:10] <Kilos> go well
[06:11] <Langjan> you too thkas Kilos 
[06:11] <Kilos> yw sir
[06:12] <Langjan> ok changed my schedule, will contact you when it has done running 
[06:17] <Kilos> lol
[06:33] <Langjan> Can aptitude take that long to install?
[06:34] <Kilos> no its something not happy there
[06:34] <Kilos> but the desktop reinstall is lots
[06:35] <Kilos> basically the whole system
[06:35] <Kilos> as long as it doesnt show error messages you just leave it to run
[06:35] <Kilos> but im sure that was a bad install from scratch
[06:36] <Kilos> maybe some bad sectors in the drive
[06:36] <Langjan> Aptitude is 11 MB
[06:36] <Kilos> aptitude installs in seconds on a good drive
[06:36] <Langjan> I have not got to desktop yet
[06:36] <Langjan> only aptitude
[06:37] <Kilos> you should put the drive in your pc then use disks to format it then clean install
[06:37] <Kilos> i mean once formatted then put it back and clean install
[06:37] <Langjan> will the lappie drive fit? standard coupling? 
[06:38] <Kilos> is it sata
[06:38] <Langjan> dunno
[06:38] <Kilos> if its an idea drive you will need an adapter
[06:39] <Kilos> but you can do it from your cd as well
[06:39] <Kilos> have you got 14.04 on stick or dvd
[06:39] <Langjan> boot on ubuntu cd in lappie?
[06:39] <Langjan> yes
[06:39] <Langjan> dvd
[06:39] <Kilos> yes boot from dvd
[06:39] <Kilos> then run disks
[06:40] <Kilos> disk utility, i forget what its called
[06:40] <Kilos> use a unity disk
[06:40] <Kilos> even and earlier release 
[06:40] <Langjan> ok lets do that but give me a while 
[06:40] <Kilos> 10.10 or something
[06:40] <Kilos> no rush
[06:40] <Langjan> can do 12.04 or 10.04
[06:41] <Kilos> a12.04
[06:41] <Kilos> you can even check for bad blocks from the dvd i think
[06:45] <Langjan> termnal died again
[06:45] <Kilos> boot from dvd
[06:46] <Langjan> will run thro your instructions and keep in touch
[06:46] <Langjan> give me a while 
[06:48] <Kilos> ok
[07:04] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[07:04] <Langjan> Format to ntfs?
[07:04] <Kilos> no man
[07:04] <Kilos> ext4
[07:04] <Langjan> ahoy pavlushka 
[07:04] <Langjan> ok
[07:05] <Kilos> hi pavlushka '
[07:05] <pavlushka> Hello Langjan & Kilos  :)
[07:05] <Langjan> see what blitsbokke did to nz and fiji
[07:05] <pavlushka> and morning every one.
[07:05] <Kilos> no i have no tv here by ian
[07:06] <pavlushka> Kilos: then go to neighbor's house
[07:06] <Langjan> nz 40-0, fiji in final 26-14
[07:06] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:06] <Langjan> green and gold monsters
[07:07] <Kilos> lol
[07:07] <Langjan> revenge for 15-man fiasco
[07:33] <Langjan> I think my dvd's are not good, none will boot, only 10.04 which does not seem to have disks available. Will try to burn new iso
[07:33] <Kilos> use 10.04
[07:33] <Kilos> and gparted
[07:34] <Kilos> delete every thing and make new drive 
[07:34] <Langjan> is it called disk utility?
[07:34] <Kilos> ext4 and you can name it i think
[07:34] <Kilos> disk utility is good too
[07:35] <Langjan> its a sata disk
[07:35] <Kilos> thats ok
[07:35] <Kilos> gparted will fix it if no disk utility
[07:37] <Langjan> ok now its New Volume 39GB ext4, is that it? Now fresh install
[07:37] <Kilos> yes
[07:38] <Langjan> Going for Ubuntu 14.04
[07:38] <Kilos> new volume is a stupid name for a drive
[07:38] <Kilos> i name them according to size
[07:38] <Kilos> like 40g
[07:38] <Langjan> Whats in a name
[07:38] <Kilos> when you do paths one day to find something you will see
[07:39] <Kilos> short clear name
[07:39] <Kilos> easier to track
[07:39] <Kilos> no spaces or funny characters
[07:44] <Langjan> It refers to a required firmware update
[07:44] <Kilos> install from scratch
[07:44] <Langjan> I saw the same error in kde install but it passed on before I could get all the details 
[07:45] <Kilos> firmware for where
[07:45] <Kilos> the motherboard
[07:45] <Langjan> will have to restert and get back to that message
[07:45] <Kilos> ok
[07:48] <Langjan> can nthe screen be frozen on that message?
[07:48] <Kilos> maybe with pause button
[07:48] <Kilos> i have no idea
[07:50] <Langjan> did not pause, all I got was error dev sr0 sector 107900 and then where was a weblink that I could not get
[07:51] <Kilos> ok try the install
[07:51] <Kilos> we can look for bad blocks later
[07:51] <Kilos> the bad blocks command marks them so they arent used
[07:52] <Kilos> same as scandisk in old windows and chkdsk in later ones
[07:52] <Langjan> then funny install screen with three horizontal bars, black top and bottom and red in the middle, same screen showed with kde install and disappeared afterwards, I thought it was as it should be but also shows on Ubuntu install
[07:52] <Kilos> but we will first check if there are bad blocks
[07:53] <Kilos> dont forget all linux is more sensitive to faulty or weak drives than windows is
[07:53] <Kilos> tell the tannie to save for an ssd
[07:53] <Langjan> Cursor shows inside a 20 x 20 mm red block that moves around with it 
[07:54] <Langjan> window does not respond to click
[07:54] <Langjan> ok ts going now
[07:55] <Langjan> She did not even want to spend R300 on 2GB RAM
[07:56] <Kilos> lol
[07:56] <Langjan> I had two 512 modules that I donated
[07:57] <Kilos> good man
[07:57] <Kilos> store up blessings in heaven not here
[07:58] <Langjan> what about the firmware warning?
[07:59] <Kilos> lets see if it works first
[07:59] <Kilos> could be a fujitso mb upgrade
[07:59] <Kilos> thats major work
[07:59] <Langjan> error copying files, clean dvd, drive, burn at lower speed or check hard disk age 
[07:59] <Kilos> ai!
[07:59] <Kilos> clean it
[08:00] <Kilos> wipe from centre outwards
[08:00] <Kilos> with soft damp cloth
[08:01] <Langjan> ok installer crashed, will do and keep in touch  
[08:04] <Kilos> ok good luck
[08:05] <Kilos> i think that drive not in good nick
[08:07] <Langjan> I think you think right for a change, lmga!
[08:08] <Langjan> See my mail re paypal, does not recognise tara's id
[08:09] <Kilos> oh my
[08:10] <Kilos> see pm
[08:12] <Langjan> The link looks like this, I googled the part I could get down: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/brcm80211
[08:14] <Kilos> lemme see
[08:20] <Langjan> install screen is not clear tells me things are not kosher
[08:21] <Kilos> try this
[08:21] <Kilos> use gparted again
[08:22] <Kilos> make a 5g partition and dont use it then make a partition for the rest of the drive and install there
[08:22] <Langjan> must I abort install? It's done about 70%
[08:22] <Kilos> or install xp on 5g
[08:22] <Kilos> well see how far it goes first
[08:23] <Kilos> dont abort
[08:23] <Kilos> it will tell you if it cant complete
[08:24] <Kilos> the first 5g is where most damage occurs
[08:24] <Kilos> boot sectors and so on
[08:24] <Kilos> i have used widows to use that part of the drive and installed alongside
[08:24] <Kilos> oh no
[08:25] <Kilos> not alongside
[08:25] <Kilos> in the left over part of drive
[08:25] <Kilos> but i think then you must make partitions for / which is root and /swap and /home
[08:28] <Langjan> Seems to be installing 
[08:28] <Langjan> configuring now
[08:28] <Kilos> yay
[08:40] <Kilos> thank you very much oom Langjan 
[08:40] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[08:40] <pavlushka> Hello Kilos :)
[08:40] <pavlushka> I am almost done with the keyboard layout conf :)
[08:41] <pavlushka> just 1 key short
[08:45] <Kilos> well done pavlushka 
[08:45] <Langjan> OK Kilos I have to go for a while, will be in touch
[08:45] <pavlushka> Kilos: thanks :)
[08:45] <Kilos> ok ty Langjan 
[08:45] <Kilos> ill be here
[09:20] <pavlushka> btw, how to set pm off, someone is spamming me in private
[09:21] <pavlushka> with diff nick
[09:24] <paddatrapper> pavlushka: /block *.<ident> ?
[09:32] <Kilos> hi there frog boots
[09:36] <paddatrapper> Hey oom Kilos. Hoe gaan dit? 
[09:37] <Kilos> ok dankie en jy seun?
[09:41] <paddatrapper> Goed. All quiet this side this morning
[10:20] <Langjan> Kilos, it has installed with message "Firmware not found: b43/ucodes.fw" and some more that I could not get. Chat later
[10:20] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:23] <Kilos> Langjan https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2243945
[10:23] <Kilos> i go lie down for a while
[13:09] <Langjan> You there Kilos ?
[13:09] <Kilos> yessir
[13:10] <Kilos> just mailed you
[13:10] <Langjan> Have a good rest?
[13:10] <Kilos> kinda
[13:10] <Kilos> how far did your installation get
[13:10] <Langjan> Not feeling well or pain or missing your ladies or combination?
[13:11] <Kilos> all of the above
[13:11] <Kilos> hehe
[13:11] <Kilos> just feel a bit weak for some reason
[13:11] <Kilos> maybe its the heat
[13:11] <Langjan> Running nicely on ubuntu 14.04 with gnome desktp, diska shows no bad sectors
[13:11] <Langjan> disks
[13:11] <Kilos> run that command in the mail
[13:11] <Langjan> it is pretty hot
[13:12] <Kilos> it will check properly
[13:12] <Langjan> ok
[13:12] <Kilos> we 39°c here atm 
[13:12] <Langjan> let me check
[13:13] <Kilos> just the first command will show the state of the drive
[13:13] <Kilos> if no bad sectors then no further worries
[13:13] <Langjan> 35 in the shade but with ceiling insulation we close windows and curtains mid-morning then inside keeps cool
[13:14] <Kilos> yeah that could help
[13:14] <Kilos> they got wonderful coolers in melbourne
[13:14] <Kilos> water coolers
[13:14] <Kilos> big square thing on roof
[13:14] <Kilos> cools whole house to where i shiver
[13:17] <Langjan> invalid last block
[13:18] <Kilos> then run the next command and it will mark it
[13:18] <Langjan> my cuz reckons Steve Biko is your best bet
[13:19] <Kilos> is that here
[13:19] <Langjan> Pretoria, old H F Verwoerd
[13:20] <Langjan> I think there is an error in your badblocks command?
[13:23] <Langjan> Aussies are well-organized
[13:23] <Langjan> blanke toesig
[13:26] <Kilos> oh
[13:26] <Kilos> i had a friend pass in that hospital
[13:26] <Kilos> service and care sucked
[13:27] <Kilos> kalafong is good
[13:27] <Kilos> had my hernia done there
[13:27] <Kilos> but far from rustenburg
[13:30] <Langjan> # sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > /tmp/bad-blocks.txt
[13:30] <Kilos> that should tell you if there are any
[13:31] <Kilos> look in tmp folder and read
[13:31] <Langjan> service and care sucks in all hospitals, even private ones
[13:31] <Kilos> lol
[13:31] <Kilos> njono
[13:31] <Kilos> nono
[13:31] <Langjan> few exceptions
[13:31] <Kilos> kalafong was great when i went midyear about
[13:32] <Langjan> it looks like its checking 
[13:32] <Kilos> and the hernia op was well done with no comebacks
[13:32] <Langjan> yes I remember you had good experience there well then you gotta go for it
[13:32] <Langjan> where is kalafong
[13:32] <Kilos> and
[13:32] <Kilos> proffesors do the serious work while interns watch
[13:33] <Kilos> south of pretoria along church street
[13:33] <Kilos> but thats also too far from here
[13:33] <Kilos> ian says he hears good stuff about swartruggens hospital
[13:33] <Langjan> ok I see it, its closest to you where you live?
[13:33] <Kilos> busy enquiring more
[13:33] <Kilos> yes
[13:34] <Langjan> so whats the prob?
[13:34] <Kilos> what prob?
[13:34] <Langjan> you looking for advice about where to go
[13:35] <Kilos> oh ye i was hoping to find a good one in rustenburg area
[13:35] <Kilos> time away from work costs ian money
[13:35] <Kilos> and adds to workload later
[13:36] <Langjan> swartruggens is not too far from there but seems like Rustenburg is not to be recommended, pity Jak is no longer there. 
[13:36] <Kilos> yes swartruggens is 40 ks
[13:37] <Langjan> They appointed a nurse that he trained as super above him, then he upped and left
[13:37] <Kilos> eish
[13:37] <Kilos> thats whe way things are done
[13:38] <Langjan> that machine is still checking, says (read only) test - is it a long process?
[13:39] <Kilos> it checks the whole drive
[13:39] <Kilos> sector by sector
[13:39] <Langjan> 38 million sectors so I suppose it will take its time
[13:39] <Kilos> lol
[13:39] <Kilos> try it on a 1tb drive
[13:40] <Langjan> eish...I can imagine
[13:41] <Kilos> but then you know where you stand
[13:42] <Kilos> it always happens that your most critical system functions always land in bad areas
[13:44] <Kilos> ive had those invalid sector probs before and only way to get rid of it was to zero the whole drive
[13:52]  * pavlushka just added the layout and its working. yay.
[13:53] <Kilos> cool beans pavlushka 
[13:53] <pavlushka> হা হা হা
[13:54] <Kilos> no one here understands gibberish
[13:54] <pavlushka> translation "ha ha ha"
[13:55] <Kilos> lol
[13:58] <Langjan> zero errors
[13:58] <Kilos> yay
[14:02] <Kilos> drive wasnt properly cleaned for the kde installation
[14:45] <Langjan> Thks a span Kilos 
[14:48] <Kilos> for what lan
[14:48] <Kilos> ai!
[15:43] <magespawn> good evenng all
[15:44] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[15:44] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[16:06] <magespawn> hey Kilos you back home?
[16:10] <Kilos> yes magespawn staying by ian in rustenburg
[16:10] <Kilos> lekker beautiful farm but crappie internet
[16:15] <magespawn> ah yes, you can rarely have both
[16:20] <Kilos> wbb
[17:34] <Kilos> haha paddatrapper the ddg function works well
[17:41] <paddatrapper> Kilos: awesome :) 
[17:42] <Kilos> im using the bot pavlushka has running by them
[17:42] <Kilos> or testing it that is
[18:04] <magespawn> Kilos: is that part of the new ibid project?
[20:04] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:56] <magespawn> good night all
[21:02] <kulelu88> howzit okes? hows your sunday evenings?