[02:40] <rockerst1r1990> pls help when installing from source...when do i need make install and then when do i use sudo make install??
[02:44] <rockerst1r1990> im having trust issues with this one specific software.lol
[02:44] <rockerst1r1990> pls help when installing from source...when do i need make install and then when do i use sudo make install??
[03:00] <sting84ray> Newbie:  problem with kodi installation. running on linux system not sure now what I did.  but system crashes cannot power off or exit everything is freezing.  I added fusion fresh start and the program does not do anything.  can you help?
[03:01] <sting84ray> hello rimd2r
[08:03] <efloid> i just read about how the leader of kubuntu resigned last year.  kubuntu should be disbanded and people should be redirected to neon.  its not fair because ppl don't know about kubuntu's status
[08:05] <lordievader> I think I heard Riddel himself say that Kubuntu doesn't have a leader, never had one.
[08:26] <valorie> efloid: the *founder* of Kubuntu left
[08:27] <valorie> one of the leaders, yes
[08:27] <valorie> Neon is a different product, for a different set of users
[08:27] <valorie> and i'm a part of both teams, although much more involved in Kub. than neon
[08:28] <valorie> efloid: if you want to know our status, read kubuntu.org, as usual
[08:28] <valorie> you can't make me stop working on kubuntu, LOL
[08:29] <valorie> off to sleep now though
[08:35] <efloid> thank you guys for kubuntu
[08:36] <efloid> i guess kubuntu is the more stable release which makes sense
[08:36] <efloid> its good to have both
[08:36] <efloid> but i wish it would be easier to use the neon archive with yakkety
[08:40] <acheronuk> efloid: That is Neon's choice, insofar as they choose to only build their packages on and for the LTS ubuntu releases
[08:43] <acheronuk> which I can see the logic for, as they are only concerned with new KDE, and building for ubuntu releases that will only be around for 9 months is a lot of effort for no real gain
[09:59] <yossarianuk> Hmm - i'm getting segfaults when trying to use virt-manager for any vm's - i think its nvidia driver related
[09:59] <yossarianuk> i.e virt-manager loads fine, however when I click on a vm (KVM) virft-manager crashes
[10:00] <yossarianuk> virt-manager[21155]: segfault at 80 ip 00007f09e7077285 sp 00007fff0f3c6148 error 6 in libnvidia-eglcore.so.375.20[7f09e63ec000+1649000]
[10:30] <yossarianuk> i'd avoid nvidia 375.20 driver for time being - screen locking also breaks
[10:32] <acheronuk> there are bad reports on it, so I have been avoiding
[10:38] <yossarianuk> yeah, its the most unstable verison in years...
[10:38] <yossarianuk> new version should be out in about a week though
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:27] <hazamonzo> Howdy BluesKaj
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Hey hazamonzo
[11:28] <hazamonzo> Brb
[11:38] <IrcsomeBot1> Kai Sen was removed by: Kai Sen
[11:42] <Hazamonzo1> ugh pain...
[11:42] <Hazamonzo1> Just installed Kubuntu 16.10 on VirtualBox. For whatever reason the keyboard is being picked up okay and I can move the mouse on the guest OS but I can't click / select anything in the Kubuntu UI
[11:43] <Hazamonzo1> However it was working up until a quick restart
[11:43] <Hazamonzo1> Has there been any big changes to the underlying Kubuntu UI that might be cause#ing me issues?
[11:45] <Hazamonzo1> Any thoughts BluesKaj ? :)
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hazamonzo1, no, I'm not much on VMs. They never quite measure up , so I use OSs on real partitions
[12:00] <BluesKaj> less convenience, but I prefer reality
[12:02] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Fair enough
[12:02] <hazamonzo> I kinda have something working now although its a little unstable
[12:11] <yossarianuk> you could try KVM instead - works well aside from proper 3d unless you use passthrough (then its the fast 3d you can get in a vm at present)
[12:11] <yossarianuk> *fastest*
[12:36] <yocs0000> nyone who can help here? firefox behaves very strangely .... every time you install a pacakge which can open a pdf, it changes the association in the browser, even f you have chosen the option to save or "ask always" .... what is wrong with it?
[12:41] <lordievader> Sounds a bit like a system config is being replaced.
[12:43] <yocs0000> lordievader: it is really weirrd, and I found some bugs logged
[12:43] <yocs0000> lordievader: but in the system config, the association is correct .... so it is only firefox association that is screwed
[12:44] <lordievader> Indeed
[12:46] <yocs0000> lordievader: mmmm .... I will try to debug this thing ....
[12:47] <yocs0000> lordievader: do you know f a good shoot them up for kubuntu?
[12:48] <lordievader> yocs0000: Sorry, what?
[12:50] <yocs0000> lordievader: you know one of those games where go around and shoot things .... with a good physics engine .... my wife is at home with a bad flu and she is an avid player ....
[12:52] <lordievader> Oh, I'm not really a gamer. Besides this is more a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[12:53] <yocs0000> lordievader: I mean for kubuntu of course .... non in general.
[12:53] <yocs0000> lordievader: to install on the kubuntu laptop.
[12:53] <lordievader> yocs0000: Yes, but it is not really Kubuntu support ;)
[13:14] <yocs0000> lordievader: the other issue I have is that when I use muon, after I have installed a pacakge the search function does not work anymore
[13:14] <yocs0000> lordievader: whatever I put in the search box return and empty result page
[13:14] <lordievader> I'm sorry, I have no experience with Muon.
[13:14] <yocs0000> lordievader: yes, I do by hands .... but my wife does not
[13:15] <lordievader> yocs0000: What I mean is that I cannot help you...
[13:16] <BluesKaj> yocs0000, that's a bug with muon, I see the same problem, relaunching muon usually solves it
[13:16] <BluesKaj> well, it's not solved , but it's a workaround
[13:20] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: thank you .... yes, at the moment we are rlaunching every time.
[13:23] <BluesKaj> yocs0000, also muon yakes a while to reload the reopos and package lists after using install or removal options, check the progess bar on lower right corner after executing, make sure it's closed before doing another search
[13:23] <BluesKaj> takes a while
[13:23] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: yes, already doing so, but it does not seem to address the issue
[13:24] <BluesKaj> yocs0000, yeah, it's a hit and miss bug
[13:24] <BluesKaj> intermittent
[13:25] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: you are right .... do you know what causes it/
[13:25] <yocs0000> ?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> I wish i did
[13:44] <v100231> Hi, I am trying to install Kubuntu on a notebook with Nvidia 1060 and Intel HD 530 dual graphics. I am able to boot to the install screen with the nomodeset option, but the installer crashes with the message "dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 1.48 was not provided by any .service files"
[14:18] <petersaints> #fedora-kde
[14:51] <AceKing> I just installed Kubuntu 16.04 on a laptop. I am having trouble with the WiFi not showing up. It is a RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter. I went to this page https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/134 and followed the directions, but still nothing. Can someone help?
[14:53] <lordievader> AceKing: Is the wireless nic detected?
[14:53] <AceKing> lordievader: No
[14:54] <lordievader> AceKing: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo lspci -k'?
[14:56] <AceKing> lordievader: https://paste.kde.org/pnf6mf5lf
[14:56] <lordievader> AceKing: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo iw list'?
[14:57] <AceKing> lordievader: https://paste.kde.org/pp5p5ftzp
[14:58] <lordievader> AceKing: Phy0 is not the RTL?
[14:58] <AceKing> lordievader: I'm sorry, I don't understand the question
[14:59] <lordievader> AceKing: Nevermind, what is the output of 'ip link'?
[15:00] <AceKing> lordievader: https://paste.kde.org/py7mlmn55
[15:13] <lordievader> AceKing: What happens when you run 'sudo ip l s wlo1 up && sudo iw dev wlo1 scan'?
[15:15] <AceKing> lordievader: https://paste.kde.org/p4umbg0ct
[15:15] <lordievader> Allright, I don't see any problem. What is the problem?
[15:17] <AceKing> I cannot get onto WiFi. If I try to put a check in the box for WiFi it sometimes will come up, and most of the time wont.
[15:17] <AceKing> When I first start the laptop, I have no connection unless I hardwire in.
[15:18] <hateball> AceKing: rfkill list
[15:18] <hateball> see if it is hard/soft blocked
[15:19] <hateball> also realtek chipsets are generally terrible
[15:19] <lordievader> hateball: It can scan ;)
[15:19] <lordievader> AceKing: Seems to me it is not activated, does the network manger manage it?
[15:19] <AceKing> https://paste.kde.org/pt3i7kwo1
[15:21] <AceKing> I cannot see it in the network manager. Even when I click the checkbox, it's hit or miss whether or not it comes up.
[15:22] <lordievader> AceKing: Do you see it after you restart the network manager? (sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager; Might interrupt your network connection)
[15:23] <AceKing> lordievader: No
[15:23] <lordievader> AceKing: Interesting, what is in /etc/networking/interfaces?
[15:25] <AceKing> https://paste.kde.org/pfrbkmsay
[15:27] <lordievader> Could you run 'sudo journalctl -u NetworkManager -o cat >/tmp/nm.log' and pastebin the /tmp/nm.log?
[15:29] <AceKing> https://paste.kde.org/povhtnzfk
[15:31] <lordievader> AceKing: Is the ethernet device available under NetworkManager?
[15:31] <AceKing> lordievader: yes
[15:31] <lordievader> AceKing: This is a laptop right?
[15:31] <AceKing> Yes
[15:32] <lordievader> If I read the logs correctly the device wlo1 should be available under the NetworkManager.
[15:32] <lordievader> There is even a succesful connection to 'DS9' logged.
[15:33] <AceKing> It's probably from before we restarted the connection.
[15:33] <AceKing> Sometimes it will connect, and sometimes it wont show at all
[15:33] <lordievader> Are you able to connect right now, or not?
[15:33] <AceKing> No
[15:34] <lordievader> Hmm, does 'sudo iw dev wlo1 scan' give output?
[15:35] <AceKing> command failed: Network is down (-100)
[15:35] <lordievader> Interesting, does it provide output after running 'sudo ip l s wlo1 up'?
[15:36] <AceKing> No
[15:36] <IrcsomeBot1> ortni was removed by: ortni
[15:37] <lordievader> AceKing: Interesting. at 15 minutes ago it was able to.
[15:38] <AceKing> lordievader: I know. And what's funny is I just saw a popup saying that I connectred to DS9, which is my router
[15:38] <lordievader> AceKing: Could you pastebin the output of 'ip a'?
[15:38] <AceKing> lordievader: for the hell of it, I just tried unchecking the WiFi and rechecking it. Lost everything again
[15:38] <lordievader> Hahaha
[15:39] <lordievader> I get the feeling NetworkManager fails in managing the wireless nic properly.
[15:39] <AceKing> https://paste.kde.org/pa7rcqk1w
[15:40] <lordievader> Still in 'down' state.
[15:40] <AceKing> lordievader: if that's the case, is there a fix?
[15:40] <lordievader> 'sudo ip l s wlo1 up' does not change that?
[15:40] <lordievader> AceKing: I think that is the case, I have no proof ;)
[15:41] <AceKing> lordievader: No, didn't change
[15:41] <lordievader> AceKing: Could you rerun the 'sudo rfkill list' command?
[15:43] <AceKing> https://paste.kde.org/pl7lqrzjo
[15:46] <lordievader> Do things happen after 'sudo rfkill unblock all'?
[15:46] <lordievader> Not really sure what that acer-wireless does.
[15:47] <AceKing> Nothing happened after I ran that
[15:47] <lordievader> Didn't become available in NetworkManager?
[15:47] <AceKing> No
[15:48] <lordievader> Hmm
[15:48] <AceKing> And if I try to tick the WiFi box, it hilights for a second, then goes away
[15:51] <lordievader> AceKing: Have you read this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:52] <AceKing> lordievader: Not that one
[15:53] <lordievader> Might be worth to try out.
[15:53] <AceKing> lordievader: Thank you. I will give that a shot. I appreciate all of your time today
[17:43] <doni> aaaaaaaaaaa
[17:47] <doni> HEEEY
[17:47] <doni> any programer here??
[17:53] <doni> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME !?!?
[18:02] <acheronuk> !ask
[20:00] <mpo42vr> !ops
[20:01] <menace> what is the normative way on kubuntu/kde to send a notification to all users (which are logged in, like with multiseat)?
[20:01] <menace> or as administrator?
[20:01] <mpo42vr> !ops I'm getting spammed with private messages
[20:02] <menace> because kdialog does not work when i am another user or a script
[20:03] <menace> somebody's spamming on freenode?
[20:04] <genii> mpo42vr: Please don't do that unless there's some actual emergency in the channel
[20:04] <menace> i keep getting messages about some ostergard or like that
[20:04] <ikonia> how is that ANYTHING to do with this channel
[20:04] <genii> mpo42vr: Use /ignore theirname
[20:05] <mpo42vr> It is about a user of this channel
[20:05] <mpo42vr> I think you should remove these people
[20:06] <ikonia> it's about a freenode staff member in 50 channels
[20:06] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with this channel
[20:06] <valorie> mpo42vr: please visit #freenode and report it
[20:06] <kloeri> mpo42vr: set umode +R to avoid the spam
[20:06] <ikonia> and you know this - hence why you didn't call the ops in any of the other channels you're in
[20:06] <mpo42vr> freenode staff
[20:06] <mpo42vr> I see
[20:07] <mpo42vr> ikonia: I know this?
[20:07] <ikonia> well you only called the ops in this channels
[20:07] <ikonia> not any of other channels you share with the user in question,
[20:07] <mpo42vr> This is the only channel I'm in
[20:08] <genii> mpo42vr: No, you're also in #freenode, where they are originating
[20:08] <ikonia> doesn't look that way
[20:08] <menace> anyways...
[20:08] <mpo42vr> I just joined because of the span, kids
[20:08] <mpo42vr> You are super smart
[20:09] <mpo42vr> But what do I expect from ikonia
[20:09] <ikonia> you know me ?
[20:09] <ikonia> if so - then you must know how to use the ops trigger properly
[20:10] <mpo42vr> An ikonia special
[23:11] <lenswipee> hi looking for a distro that will run an old computer designed for winXp. suggestions
[23:14] <genii> Puppy
 lubuntu?
[23:45] <lenswipee> hi looking for a distro that will run an old computer designed for winXp. suggestions
[23:49] <valorie> lenswipee: as genii said, try puppy
[23:51] <lenswipee> only puppy?
[23:52] <hggdh> lenswipee: puppy, xubuntu, lubuntu, mint
[23:54] <porlosmuertos> cool
[23:56] <lenswipee> which is the fastest of those 4?
[23:56] <hggdh> lenswipee: your guess. You will need to experiment
[23:58] <lenswipee> im sure that data is avaiable
[23:59] <hggdh> lenswipee: probably, but I do not have it.