| Kilos | so wake up za | 05:24 |
|---|---|---|
| paddatrapper | Morning oom Kilos | 05:35 |
| Kilos | hi chesedo inetpro paddatrapper superfly | 05:37 |
| paddatrapper | Highlights should wake everyone | 05:37 |
| Kilos | paddatrapper when you have nothing to do and are bored, can you help me get ekiga working on 14.04 please | 05:37 |
| Kilos | no rush at all | 05:37 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: ok. What's ekiga? | 05:38 |
| Kilos | i need to do it on 14.04 because i have 14.04 installed on debs lappy but it wont connect | 05:38 |
| Kilos | same as skype | 05:38 |
| Kilos | voip | 05:38 |
| Kilos | on my 16.04 it works but not on 14.04 | 05:39 |
| paddatrapper | Ah ok | 05:39 |
| Kilos | there many posts of it online but i cant get any of their fixes to work | 05:39 |
| paddatrapper | Sure can take a look. Probably only tomorrow though | 05:39 |
| Kilos | we use skype atm so no rush | 05:39 |
| Kilos | couple weeks is fine as well lad | 05:40 |
| paddatrapper | Cool. I'll see how tomorrow pans out then | 05:40 |
| Kilos | ty | 05:40 |
| Kilos | ohi pavlushka | 05:41 |
| pavlushka | Heylo Kilos :) | 05:41 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron thatgraemeguy tumbleweed MaNI ludo jerit and drussell too | 05:43 |
| thatgraemeguy | morning | 05:43 |
| thatgraemeguy | what happened with all this PM spam? | 05:43 |
| Kilos | did you also get it? | 05:44 |
| Kilos | pavlushka sorted his side so only registered nicks are allowed | 05:44 |
| pavlushka | thatgraemeguy: "/umode +R" and you are in #freenode channel I guess. | 05:45 |
| pavlushka | thatgraemeguy: no, you are not in there | 05:45 |
| thatgraemeguy | nope | 05:46 |
| pavlushka | thatgraemeguy: that mode set to allow only reg nicks to pm you | 05:58 |
| chesedo | morning paddatrapper Kilos- pavlushka thatgraemeguy and others | 07:07 |
| pavlushka | morning chesedo :) | 07:07 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| paddatrapper | morning chesedo | 07:08 |
| thatgraemeguy | 'lo | 07:09 |
| superfly | Kilos: ekiga is not the same as skype. You can't ekiga to ekiga, you need a SIP server | 09:44 |
| Kilos | hi superfly when i run ekiga on 16.04 i can do the echo test but on 14.04 it doesnt work | 09:45 |
| Kilos | i actually managed to send a couple of text messages to debs lappy then it stopped connecting | 09:46 |
| superfly | Kilos: I doubt an echo test needs a SIP server, it's just to check that your microphone is working. | 09:46 |
| Kilos | so what do i do ? | 09:46 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 09:46 |
| Kilos | i think it runs through a sip server at ekiga | 09:46 |
| superfly | Kilos: the reality is that 14.04 is a dead OS for desktop | 09:47 |
| Kilos | thats our ids | 09:47 |
| superfly | Kilos: ah, I see, they do have a SIP server | 09:47 |
| Kilos | yes but her old ibm lappy is too underpowered for 16.04 | 09:47 |
| Kilos | yes my id is sip:kilos@ekiga.net i think | 09:48 |
| Kilos | or ekiga.com | 09:48 |
| superfly | .net | 09:51 |
| superfly | Kilos: you'd need to upgrade ekiga on 14.04. That's a version that is over 2 years old. 2 years in technology time is like 50 years in human time. | 09:52 |
| superfly | Kilos: maybe find a PPA | 09:52 |
| Kilos | i will try that ty. i have 14.04 on an external here so ill get it working here first then get tara to do the setup for her mom | 09:54 |
| Kilos | ive read so much about probs peeps had with 14.04 but havent managed to get any of their fixes to work | 09:55 |
| Kilos | and im trying to find a wiring problem in ians golf, that has made it lose spark | 09:59 |
| Langjan | Hi guys | 10:07 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 10:07 |
| Kilos | what broke | 10:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:07 |
| Langjan | Hoe gaan dit vandag? | 10:07 |
| Langjan | lmga | 10:07 |
| Langjan | Unity | 10:07 |
| Kilos | ok dankie en daar | 10:08 |
| Kilos | hhahahahaha | 10:08 |
| Langjan | goed dankie | 10:08 |
| Kilos | what broke | 10:08 |
| Langjan | still sukkeling with my video players | 10:08 |
| Langjan | check my email for details | 10:08 |
| Kilos | use vlc | 10:09 |
| Kilos | its all i use | 10:09 |
| Kilos | plays everything | 10:09 |
| Langjan | I remember having tried that also but no harm in another go | 10:10 |
| Langjan | Its already installed | 10:10 |
| Langjan | conflict? | 10:11 |
| Kilos | vlc gives conflict? | 10:11 |
| Langjan | must I uninstall all the flash stuff? | 10:11 |
| Kilos | vlc runs on its own | 10:11 |
| Kilos | make sure you havent got another player using the file same time | 10:12 |
| Langjan | so if I have the flash stuff there and vlc there could be a conflict problem? | 10:12 |
| theblazehen | Flash stuff sucks. Remove flash. | 10:12 |
| Kilos | no | 10:12 |
| Langjan | Hi theblazehen | 10:12 |
| theblazehen | If it doesn't run with html5 in browser then mpv should play it | 10:12 |
| theblazehen | Hi Langjan, Kilos | 10:12 |
| Kilos | reinstall all vlc related packages in synaptic, im sure there will be updates | 10:13 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 10:13 |
| Kilos | leme see ian off, he going to bosch for spares | 10:13 |
| Langjan | theres a long list of vlc stuff I never know which are needed | 10:13 |
| Kilos | all the installed ones | 10:18 |
| Kilos | reinstall | 10:18 |
| Kilos | right click reinstall | 10:18 |
| Kilos | iirc vlc tells you if it needs another plugin | 10:19 |
| Kilos | mine just works | 10:19 |
| Kilos | oh im not on unity | 10:19 |
| Langjan | Sorry, system froze. Happening regularly lately, ageing hardware? | 10:23 |
| Kilos | eish | 10:23 |
| Kilos | are you battling on your pc | 10:23 |
| Langjan | Must I uninstall all the flashy stuff? | 10:24 |
| Langjan | It comes and goes | 10:24 |
| Kilos | when last you did sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade | 10:24 |
| Langjan | Quite often | 10:25 |
| Kilos | flash should make pc freeze | 10:25 |
| Kilos | ok sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot | 10:25 |
| Kilos | hopefully that finds bad stuff and sorts it | 10:25 |
| Langjan | Hi again | 10:29 |
| Langjan | let me do that vlc reload and get rid of flash | 10:30 |
| Kilos | im not sure but i think there is something the guys use in place of adobe flash | 10:35 |
| Kilos | pepper something | 10:35 |
| Kilos | inetpro will tell you when he wakes up | 10:35 |
| Langjan | I had that also | 10:35 |
| Langjan | but you say vlc plays everything | 10:35 |
| Kilos | yes | 10:36 |
| Langjan | so why worry further | 10:36 |
| Kilos | precisely | 10:36 |
| Kilos | http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html | 10:37 |
| Langjan | The video on this site does not work: wants the pepper thing: http://www.speedtest.net/ | 10:37 |
| Kilos | then get the pepperthing | 10:37 |
| theblazehen | Langjan remove the firefox pepper flash extension or something? | 10:37 |
| Langjan | theblazehen, in Firefox there is Open H264 video codec, shockwave flash, adobe reader 9.5, divx web player, Itunes app detector, quick time plugin 766, vlc multimedia plugin, windows multimedia player plugin 10 | 10:43 |
| theblazehen | Is this windows or linux | 10:43 |
| Langjan | ubuntu 14.04 | 10:44 |
| Langjan | kde | 10:44 |
| Langjan | unity desktop | 10:44 |
| theblazehen | Hmm. Have you restarted firefox? | 10:45 |
| Langjan | I did a fresh install of Firefox a few days ago | 10:45 |
| chesedo | Langjan: extionsions are still installed in ~/.firefox.... even after a fresh install they will persist | 10:56 |
| Langjan | chesedo, I deleted all the files | 10:57 |
| chesedo | oh | 10:57 |
| Langjan | Tried with vlc activated and all the others "ask" then the site asks for flash and popup error shows it wants pepper flash | 10:58 |
| Langjan | so vlc does not work everywhere... | 10:59 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:07 |
| Kilos | if you have a spare drive, install 16.04 and try get used to it | 11:08 |
| theblazehen | Or 16.10 ? | 11:08 |
| Kilos | many things work that needed fixing in 14.04 | 11:08 |
| Kilos | lts | 11:08 |
| Langjan | Why should it be a problem to get used to it? | 11:08 |
| Kilos | they moved stuff around | 11:09 |
| Kilos | oh maybe not on unity | 11:09 |
| * theblazehen wonders what 17.10 will be called | 11:09 | |
| Kilos | kde made some diffs | 11:09 |
| Langjan | My friend installed it and I did not even notice the diff | 11:09 |
| Kilos | then go for it | 11:09 |
| Langjan | the kde is the prob as usual | 11:10 |
| Kilos | but you old you know | 11:10 |
| Kilos | and maybe need new glasses | 11:10 |
| Langjan | maybe new specs wil help, better do major overhaul | 11:11 |
| Kilos | save your home folder | 11:11 |
| Langjan | OK gotta go for now, we will talk later | 11:11 |
| Kilos | go well my friend | 11:12 |
| Langjan | will do, always do | 11:12 |
| Langjan | thks you too Kilos | 11:12 |
| Kilos | ty | 11:12 |
| Kilos | inetpro where are you? | 14:52 |
| superfly | hiding | 15:11 |
| superfly | Kilos: ^^ | 15:12 |
| Kilos | sorry | 15:43 |
| Kilos | wasoutside working | 15:43 |
| superfly | So you were hiding too | 15:43 |
| Kilos | oh yes he is scared i give him some work | 15:43 |
| Kilos | nono working | 15:43 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 15:43 |
| Kilos | got ians car going | 15:43 |
| inetpro | oops I mean... | 15:43 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro | 15:43 |
| inetpro | oh hi oom Kilos as well | 15:44 |
| Kilos | glad you managed to wake up | 15:44 |
| inetpro | what's up doc? | 15:44 |
| Kilos | nothing | 15:44 |
| Kilos | just you didnt great before lunch | 15:44 |
| inetpro | sorry oom | 15:45 |
| inetpro | just busy | 15:45 |
| Kilos | you are forgfiven | 15:45 |
| Kilos | forgiven | 15:45 |
| Kilos | strange keyboard | 15:45 |
| inetpro | dankie | 15:45 |
| Kilos | running an old pc of ians from my 14.04 external | 15:45 |
| Kilos | much faster than the xp hehe | 15:46 |
| Kilos | usb3 external with ssd | 15:46 |
| inetpro | superfly: are you ready to fly yet? | 15:46 |
| inetpro | I mean the long flight | 15:47 |
| Kilos | 3 days to his interview first | 15:47 |
| inetpro | obviously he's flying the shorty flights all day every day | 15:47 |
| inetpro | like a fly | 15:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:48 |
| inetpro | will be a strange place here without him ready to respond in the regular fashion | 15:49 |
| Kilos | yeah | 15:49 |
| Kilos | sad day for za | 15:50 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 19:01 |
| Langjan | Hi Kilos slaap jy nog nie? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | ek ismhier Langjan | 19:04 |
| Kilos | is ook | 19:04 |
| Langjan | Als wel by jou? | 19:04 |
| Kilos | different keyboard | 19:04 |
| Kilos | ja dankie en self | 19:04 |
| Langjan | mooi ook so dankie | 19:04 |
| Kilos | wat het nou gebreek | 19:04 |
| Langjan | I want to upgrade to 16.04 but am wary of the kde/unity combo and think I must change kde to ubuntu 14.04 before upgrade | 19:06 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:06 |
| Kilos | thats half your probs i think | 19:06 |
| Kilos | unity7 on kde base | 19:06 |
| Kilos | install ubuntu-desktop | 19:07 |
| Kilos | and remove kubuntu-desktop | 19:07 |
| Kilos | but i would rather clean install 16.04 | 19:07 |
| Kilos | then just copy home folder to new installation | 19:08 |
| Langjan | I have a lot of apps that will be lost | 19:08 |
| Langjan | and vbox | 19:08 |
| Kilos | where will they be lost | 19:08 |
| Kilos | copy whats running and then make sure you have them in stalled | 19:09 |
| Langjan | vbox andd some of them dont survive fresh install | 19:09 |
| Kilos | remember you cant ask me for 16.04 help | 19:09 |
| Kilos | ohy ya | 19:09 |
| Kilos | how muchy space have you got | 19:09 |
| Langjan | let me check | 19:10 |
| Langjan | 62 GB used 42 free | 19:11 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 19:11 |
| Kilos | oh wait | 19:11 |
| Kilos | look at systemback | 19:12 |
| Langjan | backed up home is 55 GB | 19:12 |
| Kilos | it makes an installation disk that installs everything you have working | 19:12 |
| Kilos | might need to do it to an external you have so much junk | 19:13 |
| Kilos | ohy no | 19:14 |
| Kilos | you wanna upgrade | 19:14 |
| Kilos | sorry | 19:14 |
| Kilos | make a system back iso so if the upgrade aint good you can reinstall to what you have now | 19:21 |
| Kilos | its in the repos | 19:22 |
| Kilos | wb tumbleweed | 19:25 |
| === tumbleweed_ is now known as tumbleweed | ||
| Langjan | Kilos, did I scare you off? | 19:35 |
| Kilos | no | 19:35 |
| Kilos | im eating a wors broodjie | 19:36 |
| Kilos | and falling asleep hehe | 19:37 |
| Kilos | ek skrik nie vir koue pap nie | 19:37 |
| Langjan | lekker | 19:37 |
| Langjan | ek sien ek kan die kde goed via synaptic uithaal | 19:37 |
| Kilos | ja | 19:38 |
| Kilos | ek gebruik synaptic baie | 19:38 |
| Kilos | maak net seker dat jy die unity goed instaleer voor jy afsit | 19:39 |
| Langjan | Ek het unity, moet ek iets weer installleer? | 19:39 |
| Kilos | na die kde goed uithaal reinstall ubuntu-desktop | 19:40 |
| Kilos | of doen dit als in een' | 19:40 |
| Kilos | synaptic hoort n goeie job daarvan te maak | 19:40 |
| tumbleweed | hi Kilos, wb to you too :) | 19:40 |
| Kilos | ty tumbleweed | 19:41 |
| Kilos | you still here? | 19:41 |
| * tumbleweed is in SF | 19:41 | |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:41 |
| Kilos | globetrotter | 19:41 |
| Langjan | Unity things are there must I reinstall them? | 19:42 |
| tumbleweed | :P | 19:42 |
| Kilos | yes | 19:42 |
| Kilos | :D | 19:43 |
| Kilos | my fav emoticon | 19:43 |
| Kilos | not much thinking | 19:43 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: so, you survived? :) | 19:43 |
| Kilos | haha yessir | 19:43 |
| Kilos | now gotta have 2 bypass ops here before i can save to go back | 19:44 |
| tumbleweed | :/ | 19:44 |
| Kilos | not serious | 19:44 |
| Kilos | cant do any worse than dying you know | 19:44 |
| tumbleweed | I hope your family wasn't stuck with too much debt from that | 19:46 |
| Kilos | still 9k | 19:46 |
| Kilos | bits and pieces are coming in | 19:46 |
| Langjan | Kilos, on reboot I still get Kubuntu logo | 19:46 |
| tumbleweed | that's still a lot :/ | 19:47 |
| Kilos | enough so far to keep the hospital quiet from informing the OZ govt | 19:47 |
| Kilos | yeah in za mon ey its a fortune | 19:47 |
| Kilos | Langjan you battle to get rid of kde | 19:47 |
| Kilos | thats why i said clean install | 19:48 |
| Kilos | dont mix them again | 19:48 |
| Langjan | ok | 19:48 |
| Kilos | you unity peeps must maar suffer along | 19:48 |
| Langjan | eerder die duiwel wat jy ken | 19:49 |
| * Kilos loves kde | 19:49 | |
| Langjan | Langjan, loves unity | 19:49 |
| Kilos | you never too oldto learn man | 19:49 |
| Langjan | agreed, I have just learnt my lesson | 19:49 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:49 |
| Langjan | lmga | 19:50 |
| Kilos | cheeky | 19:50 |
| Kilos | im thinking of going 16.04 on my desktop | 19:50 |
| Kilos | kde of course | 19:50 |
| Kilos | not lekker to go to bed along hey superfly ? | 19:51 |
| Kilos | i hate it | 19:51 |
| * Kilos loves spooning | 19:51 | |
| Kilos | Langjan ive even had hassles using a unity home folder in kde | 19:53 |
| Kilos | so i decided to in future leave unity for the clever peeps | 19:53 |
| Langjan | Those clever enough to know where to stay away from | 20:00 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 20:01 |
| Langjan | you have cheeky learner | 20:01 |
| Kilos | definitely | 20:01 |
| Kilos | so old man what are you actually doing there? | 20:03 |
| Langjan | synaptic removing all kde | 20:03 |
| Kilos | ah | 20:03 |
| Kilos | dont mix them in future | 20:03 |
| Kilos | havent you heard of apartheid | 20:04 |
| Langjan | you hate being apart | 20:06 |
| Kilos | yes me man not different operating systems | 20:07 |
| Kilos | its likemputting diesel into your petrol car | 20:07 |
| Langjan | yip ok gonna reboot check you in a minute | 20:07 |
| Kilos | it wont go far | 20:07 |
| Kilos | ok | 20:07 |
| Langjan | what wont go far? | 20:07 |
| Kilos | the car | 20:07 |
| Langjan | oh ok did not see the clever diesel/petrol comment | 20:08 |
| Kilos | keep up man | 20:08 |
| Langjan | well you can mix up to about 20% | 20:08 |
| Langjan | I only kept desktop | 20:08 |
| Kilos | read everything , dont skim what you think is important | 20:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:09 |
| Kilos | with 20% you gonna smoke | 20:09 |
| Kilos | wb Langjan | 20:14 |
| Langjan | hopefully kde | 20:15 |
| Kilos | huh | 20:15 |
| Kilos | 20% diesel in petrol car will smoke man | 20:15 |
| Langjan | bobbejaantjie se huh | 20:15 |
| Kilos | huh | 20:15 |
| Langjan | yes but it will run | 20:16 |
| Kilos | yes | 20:16 |
| Langjan | 20% petrol in diesel also will get you home | 20:16 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:16 |
| Kilos | wont start from cold | 20:16 |
| Langjan | why not? | 20:17 |
| Kilos | diesel like to be warmed up first | 20:17 |
| Kilos | like those old tractors that ran on power parafin | 20:17 |
| Kilos | first had to start on petrol | 20:17 |
| Langjan | this kde-thing is a monster | 20:19 |
| Kilos | hi dude42 | 20:21 |
| Kilos | wb Langjan | 20:22 |
| Langjan | I have even deleted the .kde config folder and it still shows up as kubuntu... | 20:22 |
| Kilos | so is everything running smoothly | 20:22 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 20:23 |
| Langjan | yes | 20:23 |
| Kilos | see the power | 20:23 |
| Langjan | I call it contamination | 20:23 |
| Kilos | hurry now man its bedtime | 20:23 |
| Langjan | What do I do to get this thing out? Everything under kde in synaptic is deleted, .kde is deleted but it still shows up! | 20:24 |
| Kilos | clean install | 20:25 |
| Langjan | well I may as well uipgrade and see what happens, can always clean install afterwards if required | 20:28 |
| Kilos | yes | 20:28 |
| Kilos | i gotta go sleep now sir | 20:28 |
| Kilos | not as young as you you know | 20:28 |
| Kilos | hopefully the kde boot logo stays | 20:29 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:29 |
| Langjan | yes slaap lekker my vriend ek gaan ook duik | 20:29 |
| Langjan | hoop jy kramp in jou slaap... | 20:29 |
| Kilos | ok sir see you tomorrow | 20:30 |
| Kilos | sleep tight you and everyone else lurking here | 20:30 |
| dude42 | hi all | 23:42 |
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