[05:24] so wake up za [05:35] Morning oom Kilos [05:37] hi chesedo inetpro paddatrapper superfly [05:37] Highlights should wake everyone [05:37] paddatrapper when you have nothing to do and are bored, can you help me get ekiga working on 14.04 please [05:37] no rush at all [05:38] Kilos: ok. What's ekiga? [05:38] i need to do it on 14.04 because i have 14.04 installed on debs lappy but it wont connect [05:38] same as skype [05:38] voip [05:39] on my 16.04 it works but not on 14.04 [05:39] Ah ok [05:39] there many posts of it online but i cant get any of their fixes to work [05:39] Sure can take a look. Probably only tomorrow though [05:39] we use skype atm so no rush [05:40] couple weeks is fine as well lad [05:40] Cool. I'll see how tomorrow pans out then [05:40] ty [05:41] ohi pavlushka [05:41] Heylo Kilos :) [05:43] hi Xethron thatgraemeguy tumbleweed MaNI ludo jerit and drussell too [05:43] morning [05:43] what happened with all this PM spam? [05:44] did you also get it? [05:44] pavlushka sorted his side so only registered nicks are allowed [05:45] thatgraemeguy: "/umode +R" and you are in #freenode channel I guess. [05:45] thatgraemeguy: no, you are not in there [05:46] nope [05:58] thatgraemeguy: that mode set to allow only reg nicks to pm you [07:07] morning paddatrapper Kilos- pavlushka thatgraemeguy and others [07:07] morning chesedo :) === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [07:08] morning chesedo [07:09] 'lo [09:44] Kilos: ekiga is not the same as skype. You can't ekiga to ekiga, you need a SIP server [09:45] hi superfly when i run ekiga on 16.04 i can do the echo test but on 14.04 it doesnt work [09:46] i actually managed to send a couple of text messages to debs lappy then it stopped connecting [09:46] Kilos: I doubt an echo test needs a SIP server, it's just to check that your microphone is working. [09:46] so what do i do ? [09:46] sjoe [09:46] i think it runs through a sip server at ekiga [09:47] Kilos: the reality is that 14.04 is a dead OS for desktop [09:47] thats our ids [09:47] Kilos: ah, I see, they do have a SIP server [09:47] yes but her old ibm lappy is too underpowered for 16.04 [09:48] yes my id is sip:kilos@ekiga.net i think [09:48] or ekiga.com [09:51] .net [09:52] Kilos: you'd need to upgrade ekiga on 14.04. That's a version that is over 2 years old. 2 years in technology time is like 50 years in human time. [09:52] Kilos: maybe find a PPA [09:54] i will try that ty. i have 14.04 on an external here so ill get it working here first then get tara to do the setup for her mom [09:55] ive read so much about probs peeps had with 14.04 but havent managed to get any of their fixes to work [09:59] and im trying to find a wiring problem in ians golf, that has made it lose spark [10:07] Hi guys [10:07] hi Langjan [10:07] what broke [10:07] hehe [10:07] Hoe gaan dit vandag? [10:07] lmga [10:07] Unity [10:08] ok dankie en daar [10:08] hhahahahaha [10:08] goed dankie [10:08] what broke [10:08] still sukkeling with my video players [10:08] check my email for details [10:09] use vlc [10:09] its all i use [10:09] plays everything [10:10] I remember having tried that also but no harm in another go [10:10] Its already installed [10:11] conflict? [10:11] vlc gives conflict? [10:11] must I uninstall all the flash stuff? [10:11] vlc runs on its own [10:12] make sure you havent got another player using the file same time [10:12] so if I have the flash stuff there and vlc there could be a conflict problem? [10:12] Flash stuff sucks. Remove flash. [10:12] no [10:12] Hi theblazehen [10:12] If it doesn't run with html5 in browser then mpv should play it [10:12] Hi Langjan, Kilos [10:13] reinstall all vlc related packages in synaptic, im sure there will be updates [10:13] hi theblazehen [10:13] leme see ian off, he going to bosch for spares [10:13] theres a long list of vlc stuff I never know which are needed [10:18] all the installed ones [10:18] reinstall [10:18] right click reinstall [10:19] iirc vlc tells you if it needs another plugin [10:19] mine just works [10:19] oh im not on unity [10:23] Sorry, system froze. Happening regularly lately, ageing hardware? [10:23] eish [10:23] are you battling on your pc [10:24] Must I uninstall all the flashy stuff? [10:24] It comes and goes [10:24] when last you did sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade [10:25] Quite often [10:25] flash should make pc freeze [10:25] ok sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot [10:25] hopefully that finds bad stuff and sorts it [10:29] Hi again [10:30] let me do that vlc reload and get rid of flash [10:35] im not sure but i think there is something the guys use in place of adobe flash [10:35] pepper something [10:35] inetpro will tell you when he wakes up [10:35] I had that also [10:35] but you say vlc plays everything [10:36] yes [10:36] so why worry further [10:36] precisely [10:37] http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html [10:37] The video on this site does not work: wants the pepper thing: http://www.speedtest.net/ [10:37] then get the pepperthing [10:37] Langjan remove the firefox pepper flash extension or something? [10:43] theblazehen, in Firefox there is Open H264 video codec, shockwave flash, adobe reader 9.5, divx web player, Itunes app detector, quick time plugin 766, vlc multimedia plugin, windows multimedia player plugin 10 [10:43] Is this windows or linux [10:44] ubuntu 14.04 [10:44] kde [10:44] unity desktop [10:45] Hmm. Have you restarted firefox? [10:45] I did a fresh install of Firefox a few days ago [10:56] Langjan: extionsions are still installed in ~/.firefox.... even after a fresh install they will persist [10:57] chesedo, I deleted all the files [10:57] oh [10:58] Tried with vlc activated and all the others "ask" then the site asks for flash and popup error shows it wants pepper flash [10:59] so vlc does not work everywhere... [11:07] ai! [11:08] if you have a spare drive, install 16.04 and try get used to it [11:08] Or 16.10 ? [11:08] many things work that needed fixing in 14.04 [11:08] lts [11:08] Why should it be a problem to get used to it? [11:09] they moved stuff around [11:09] oh maybe not on unity [11:09] * theblazehen wonders what 17.10 will be called [11:09] kde made some diffs [11:09] My friend installed it and I did not even notice the diff [11:09] then go for it [11:10] the kde is the prob as usual [11:10] but you old you know [11:10] and maybe need new glasses [11:11] maybe new specs wil help, better do major overhaul [11:11] save your home folder [11:11] OK gotta go for now, we will talk later [11:12] go well my friend [11:12] will do, always do [11:12] thks you too Kilos [11:12] ty [14:52] inetpro where are you? [15:11] hiding [15:12] Kilos: ^^ [15:43] sorry [15:43] wasoutside working [15:43] So you were hiding too [15:43] oh yes he is scared i give him some work [15:43] nono working [15:43] good mornings [15:43] got ians car going [15:43] oops I mean... [15:43] morning inetpro [15:44] oh hi oom Kilos as well [15:44] glad you managed to wake up [15:44] what's up doc? [15:44] nothing [15:44] just you didnt great before lunch [15:45] sorry oom [15:45] just busy [15:45] you are forgfiven [15:45] forgiven [15:45] strange keyboard [15:45] dankie [15:45] running an old pc of ians from my 14.04 external [15:46] much faster than the xp hehe [15:46] usb3 external with ssd [15:46] superfly: are you ready to fly yet? [15:47] I mean the long flight [15:47] 3 days to his interview first [15:47] obviously he's flying the shorty flights all day every day [15:47] like a fly [15:48] lol [15:49] will be a strange place here without him ready to respond in the regular fashion [15:49] yeah [15:50] sad day for za [19:01] hmm... [19:03] Hi Kilos slaap jy nog nie? [19:04] ek ismhier Langjan [19:04] is ook [19:04] Als wel by jou? [19:04] different keyboard [19:04] ja dankie en self [19:04] mooi ook so dankie [19:04] wat het nou gebreek [19:06] I want to upgrade to 16.04 but am wary of the kde/unity combo and think I must change kde to ubuntu 14.04 before upgrade [19:06] ok [19:06] thats half your probs i think [19:06] unity7 on kde base [19:07] install ubuntu-desktop [19:07] and remove kubuntu-desktop [19:07] but i would rather clean install 16.04 [19:08] then just copy home folder to new installation [19:08] I have a lot of apps that will be lost [19:08] and vbox [19:08] where will they be lost [19:09] copy whats running and then make sure you have them in stalled [19:09] vbox andd some of them dont survive fresh install [19:09] remember you cant ask me for 16.04 help [19:09] ohy ya [19:09] how muchy space have you got [19:10] let me check [19:11] 62 GB used 42 free [19:11] hmm... [19:11] oh wait [19:12] look at systemback [19:12] backed up home is 55 GB [19:12] it makes an installation disk that installs everything you have working [19:13] might need to do it to an external you have so much junk [19:14] ohy no [19:14] you wanna upgrade [19:14] sorry [19:21] make a system back iso so if the upgrade aint good you can reinstall to what you have now [19:22] its in the repos [19:25] wb tumbleweed === tumbleweed_ is now known as tumbleweed [19:35] Kilos, did I scare you off? [19:35] no [19:36] im eating a wors broodjie [19:37] and falling asleep hehe [19:37] ek skrik nie vir koue pap nie [19:37] lekker [19:37] ek sien ek kan die kde goed via synaptic uithaal [19:38] ja [19:38] ek gebruik synaptic baie [19:39] maak net seker dat jy die unity goed instaleer voor jy afsit [19:39] Ek het unity, moet ek iets weer installleer? [19:40] na die kde goed uithaal reinstall ubuntu-desktop [19:40] of doen dit als in een' [19:40] synaptic hoort n goeie job daarvan te maak [19:40] hi Kilos, wb to you too :) [19:41] ty tumbleweed [19:41] you still here? [19:41] * tumbleweed is in SF [19:41] sjoe [19:41] globetrotter [19:42] Unity things are there must I reinstall them? [19:42] :P [19:42] yes [19:43] :D [19:43] my fav emoticon [19:43] not much thinking [19:43] Kilos: so, you survived? :) [19:43] haha yessir [19:44] now gotta have 2 bypass ops here before i can save to go back [19:44] :/ [19:44] not serious [19:44] cant do any worse than dying you know [19:46] I hope your family wasn't stuck with too much debt from that [19:46] still 9k [19:46] bits and pieces are coming in [19:46] Kilos, on reboot I still get Kubuntu logo [19:47] that's still a lot :/ [19:47] enough so far to keep the hospital quiet from informing the OZ govt [19:47] yeah in za mon ey its a fortune [19:47] Langjan you battle to get rid of kde [19:48] thats why i said clean install [19:48] dont mix them again [19:48] ok [19:48] you unity peeps must maar suffer along [19:49] eerder die duiwel wat jy ken [19:49] * Kilos loves kde [19:49] Langjan, loves unity [19:49] you never too oldto learn man [19:49] agreed, I have just learnt my lesson [19:49] lol [19:50] lmga [19:50] cheeky [19:50] im thinking of going 16.04 on my desktop [19:50] kde of course [19:51] not lekker to go to bed along hey superfly ? [19:51] i hate it [19:51] * Kilos loves spooning [19:53] Langjan ive even had hassles using a unity home folder in kde [19:53] so i decided to in future leave unity for the clever peeps [20:00] Those clever enough to know where to stay away from [20:01] hahaha [20:01] you have cheeky learner [20:01] definitely [20:03] so old man what are you actually doing there? [20:03] synaptic removing all kde [20:03] ah [20:03] dont mix them in future [20:04] havent you heard of apartheid [20:06] you hate being apart [20:07] yes me man not different operating systems [20:07] its likemputting diesel into your petrol car [20:07] yip ok gonna reboot check you in a minute [20:07] it wont go far [20:07] ok [20:07] what wont go far? [20:07] the car [20:08] oh ok did not see the clever diesel/petrol comment [20:08] keep up man [20:08] well you can mix up to about 20% [20:08] I only kept desktop [20:08] read everything , dont skim what you think is important [20:09] lol [20:09] with 20% you gonna smoke [20:14] wb Langjan [20:15] hopefully kde [20:15] huh [20:15] 20% diesel in petrol car will smoke man [20:15] bobbejaantjie se huh [20:15] huh [20:16] yes but it will run [20:16] yes [20:16] 20% petrol in diesel also will get you home [20:16] sjoe [20:16] wont start from cold [20:17] why not? [20:17] diesel like to be warmed up first [20:17] like those old tractors that ran on power parafin [20:17] first had to start on petrol [20:19] this kde-thing is a monster [20:21] hi dude42 [20:22] wb Langjan [20:22] I have even deleted the .kde config folder and it still shows up as kubuntu... [20:22] so is everything running smoothly [20:23] hahaha [20:23] yes [20:23] see the power [20:23] I call it contamination [20:23] hurry now man its bedtime [20:24] What do I do to get this thing out? Everything under kde in synaptic is deleted, .kde is deleted but it still shows up! [20:25] clean install [20:28] well I may as well uipgrade and see what happens, can always clean install afterwards if required [20:28] yes [20:28] i gotta go sleep now sir [20:28] not as young as you you know [20:29] hopefully the kde boot logo stays [20:29] hehe [20:29] yes slaap lekker my vriend ek gaan ook duik [20:29] hoop jy kramp in jou slaap... [20:30] ok sir see you tomorrow [20:30] sleep tight you and everyone else lurking here [23:42] hi all