[08:47] <KrisJace> in the Ubuntu Touch, could the transparency setting be given to users for the onscreen keyboard??
[08:47] <KrisJace> http://api.sound.com.tw/dev/kris/maliit-concept.jpg
[09:53] <ashshidiq87> test
[10:07] <duflu> sil2100: Hey OTA-14 shows 23 bugs fix committed but the project shows 123 fix committed. Update the milestone?
[10:07] <duflu> I know not all will have made it
[10:10] <sil2100> duflu: hey, what project you mean?
[10:11] <duflu> sil2100: The project which contains OTA-14 :)   https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED
[10:12] <duflu> The project shows 123 fix committed but only 23 are tied to OTA-14?... sounds like a mistake
[10:12] <duflu> Maybe it's not...
[10:12] <sil2100> No
[10:12] <sil2100> https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/14 <- this is correct
[10:13] <sil2100> Since this time we prepared OTA-14 snapshot based, so not all committed fixes will be released to stable :)
[10:13] <sil2100> Usually we take rc-proposed and use that as a candidate, here we picked single fixes and made a release out of that
[10:14] <duflu> Oh OK. I still bet more than 23 sneak in
[10:16] <sil2100> I think there might be a bit more, yes
[10:17] <sil2100> Since we did take the whole unity8 stack
[10:17] <sil2100> duflu: will try to update that
[10:18] <duflu> sil2100: Ah, yes exactly. A full stack update will pull in hundreds of changes/fixes :)
[10:18] <sil2100> duflu: anyway, thanks for mentioning this!
[10:19] <duflu> sil2100: No problem. I am preparing to end the day at a sane hour, soon...
[10:36] <KrisJace> http://kriscode.blogspot.tw/2016/12/ubuntu-touch-oosk-qml-hack-for-transparency.html
[13:52] <harirama> http://www.mibqyyo.com/en-articles/2015/09/16/ubuntu-android-installation-process-for-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-e5/#/vanilla/discussion/embed/?vanilla_discussion_id=0
[13:53] <harirama> to launch the download of a file named “SP_Flash_Tool_exe_linux_v5.1424.00.zip”
[13:53] <harirama> i cannot find this file ....
[13:53] <harirama> arghhh
[13:54] <mimecar> https://storage.googleapis.com/otas/2015/Tablets/Freezer%20FHD/Ubuntu/SP_Flash_Tool_exe_Linux_v5.1612.00.100.zip
[13:54] <mimecar> that version should work
[13:55] <mimecar> or you can install ubuntu with flash-tool and ubuntu sdk
[13:55] <OerHeks> http://www.mibqyyo.com/descargas/2015/05/22/herramienta-flash-tool-ubuntu/
[13:55] <OerHeks> mimecar, +1 that is the result
[13:55] <mimecar> there are two ways for ubuntu phone installation
[13:57] <alex-BDA53832477> Hello. I have issues with setting up a build target in Ubuntu sdk and hoped someone might have a clue how I can get this solved. Particularly, the setup exits with the following message "useradd: group '1026' does not exist
[13:57] <alex-BDA53832477> error: exit status 6". 1026 is my user id. Help, anyone? :)
[14:04] <alex-BDA53832477> ok I created a group with id 1026 and now it worked ... never mind ... :)
[14:33] <harirama> mimecar, OerHeks, tnx! I succeeded. Lalalala super.
[18:33] <mikeman> whaaadddup!
[18:35] <mikeman> ubuntu touch to a rooted Nexus 7.... installing from a windows 10 PC. Anybody have a checklist or link?
[18:40] <dobey> mikeman: nexus 7 2013 (early) ?
[18:41] <dobey> mikeman: probably best to boot ubuntu off a usb to do the flash, or in a vm. not sure if anyone's done it from the ubuntu-on-windows thing
[18:43] <mikeman> @dobey, its a little older. I believe its a V2... Ive already rooted it a year ago. btw, my first typo. Its a Nexus 5 rooted. I also have a Nexus 7, but I want Ubuntu touch on the nexus 5
[18:45] <dobey> mikeman: oh ok. for nexus 5 flash on original android 4.4, boot to welcome screen, reboot to bootloader, and basically follow the instructions on ubports.com for it
[18:48] <mikeman> so I basically should be searching for creating and booting custom roms then right? From there I can just keep messing with images until I find one that suits my needs?
[18:49] <mikeman> cuz there are so many different linux flavors i mean
[18:53] <dobey> not sure what you're asking, flashing ubuntu on the device is a fair bit different from flashing jolla or android or others
[18:54] <dobey> but https://ubports.com/ has the details for how to flash ubuntu onto a nexus 5
[18:55] <mikeman> @dobey. Im going to try your USB suggestion with the 2buntu.com tutorial. If its a no go then im just gonna get myself a PI3 for xmas and build. Cheers budz!!!!
[19:07] <mterry> kgunn: you said silo snap didn't work for you -- on classic or vm?  Works for me in classic, about to try vm
[19:08] <kgunn> mterry: on classic
[19:09] <kgunn> lemme try right now...i just removed and reinstalled just in case (as previously i installed on top of another install)
[19:12] <mterry> hm works for me on vm too
[19:23] <kgunn> mterry: mterry: yeah so it worked fine this time
[19:24] <kgunn> so it seems you cannot merely install on top of an existing installed unity8-session snap
[19:28] <mterry> kgunn: so looks like auto-upload to store is *supposed* to work.  But the uploads keep timing out when LP tries to push them to store
[19:28] <mterry> https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+snap/unity8-session-silo/+build/12635 for example
[19:29] <kgunn> interesting
[19:29] <dobey> well i know it works for other people building snaps
[19:29] <dobey> so i presume some odd config issue
[19:30] <mterry> u8 snap is also huge
[19:30] <mterry> Might be stressing something
[19:31] <dobey> true
[19:51] <kgunn> mterry: so is u-s-s the only app that successfully launches atm?
[19:52] <kgunn> ...also,i thot we were going to preinstall terminal app?...did i imagine that?
[19:53] <mterry> kgunn: the terminal *snap* is installed by unity8-install-snap
[19:53] <mterry> Optimistically assuming that snap launching would work
[19:54] <kgunn> mterry: so it _should_ be present in my apps scope?
[19:54] <kgunn> wondering if i'm suffering from early adoption woes'
[19:54] <mterry> kgunn: if "snap list ubuntu-terminal-app" gives good output, yes
[19:55] <kgunn> mterry: oh it's definitely not installed...
[19:55] <kgunn> snap list doesn't show it
[19:55] <mterry> kgunn: run unity8-install-snap and it should be
[19:55] <mterry> unity8-snap-install
[19:55] <mterry> whoops
[19:55] <kgunn> ah...k
[19:55] <kgunn> mterry: is the store version still 277 ?
[19:56] <kgunn> oh must be
[19:56] <kgunn> cause no ted to upload
[19:56] <kgunn> assuming he's still the only gatekeeper on that namespace
[19:56] <mterry> kgunn: yeah... well actually we're digging with some IS / store people.  We're seeing an unexpected timeout when uploading
[19:57] <dobey> err
[19:57] <dobey> kgunn: what *is* in your apps scope?
[19:57] <davmor2> kgunn: iirc it was build automagically when things landed could be dreaming when they said that though :)
[19:57] <kgunn> dobey: atm, ubuntu-browser, clock, u-s-s, chrome
[19:58] <davmor2> kgunn: on the snap in the store there are no apps other system settings because you only install unity8 not the other snaps that unity8-session-install installs along side unity8
[19:58] <dobey> kgunn: is chrome installed as a snap or in a libertine container?
[19:58] <dobey> well actually i guess clock is a snap
[19:59] <dobey> kgunn: unity8 snap on classic?
[19:59] <kgunn> dobey: all of those were/are snaps
[20:00] <dobey> well u-s-s and webbrowser-app i guess are in the u8 snap itself
[20:00] <mterry> not webbrowser-app anymore
[20:00] <dobey> oh it's a snap now?
[20:00] <mterry> We actually intend to put Firefox in there
[20:00] <dobey> yikes
[20:00] <mterry> It does have a snap yeah
[20:01] <mterry> But some UAL issues prevent us from launching FF yet
[20:01] <kgunn> mterry: so unity8-snap-install is supposed to run on it's own upon the first install i suppose?
[20:01] <dobey> doesn't firefox have snaps?
[20:01] <kgunn> ...i'm just having to run manually as early adopter?
[20:01] <mterry> kgunn: no the instructions just say to run it
[20:02] <dobey> i would expect firefox should be a snap
[20:02] <mterry> dobey: that is the eventual intent yes
[20:02] <kgunn> mterry: so it does....my bad
[20:02] <dobey> but anyway, i guess yeah there is some issue with launching snaps from a snap still
[20:02] <dobey> oh probably the unity8 interface stuff?
[20:03] <dobey> because it tries to run unity7 snaps with xmir
[20:03] <dobey> which i guess also still has some problems
[20:03] <dobey> but the unity8 apps really shouldn't be running under xmir, but there's no official u8 interface yet
[20:04] <dobey> mterry: maybe would be a good idea to have the terminal app included in the u8 snap until we get the interface bits sorted there?
[20:04] <dobey> that way devs should at least be able to have a working terminal to debug bits in
[20:04] <mterry> We could, if dropping to a terminal is a problem for people
[20:05] <mterry> But I had expected us to be able to launch snaps already  :)  (it's not an interface thing exactly, just UAL stuff that ted's working on)
[20:05] <dobey> well it's hard to see what's happening on the mir surface when you're over in another vt :)
[20:06] <dobey> mterry: well, there are multiple issues i guess. sdk apps should not be running under xmir; but i don't know if ted was fixing that to happen for the unity7 interface or not
[20:06] <dobey> but i do know he was trying to get a snapd .deb built with a unity8 interface for testing
[20:16] <kgunn> mterry: dobey ok, yeah, now i get all the relevant apps....camera, filebrowser, terminal, calculator etc
[20:16] <kgunn> fwiw, ubuntu-browser seems upgraded
[20:17] <kgunn> ....at least it actually attempts to launch (doesn't disappear immediately..but never succeeds)
[20:17] <mterry> yay
[20:17] <mterry> sorta
[20:17] <kgunn> :)
[20:17] <dobey> cool
[20:18] <kgunn> mterry: curious, how is it that u-s-s actually launches...but all others fail?
[20:18] <kgunn> is it b/c it's not really a separate snap
[20:18] <mterry> kgunn: it is not a snap, it's built in as a legacy app
[20:18] <kgunn> right
[20:46] <pmcgowan> kgunn, mterry can we get the latest up on edge then?
[20:47] <kgunn> unless ted "added" others to his namespace we can't i think....also we really should get mvo to get this uploaded under canonical
[20:51] <dobey> if uploaded under canonical namespace, rights to the package still needs to be shared to each individual who needs to upload it