| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| diddledan | right, I've locked-down kibana now so you can't see the url I showed earlier. instead I've got a preliminary graph at https://ubulog.com/ | 02:56 |
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| zmoylan-pi | so a drop in irc or ubuntu or both... | 03:00 |
| diddledan | the data is still incomplete | 03:05 |
| diddledan | so that may change, but it's an interesting trend that has emerged thus far | 03:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | doubt it will change the overall results much | 03:07 |
| diddledan | so far I've indexed about 67million lines of log. just running a check to see how many there are total | 03:07 |
| diddledan | 87,673,240 | 03:10 |
| diddledan | so mostly there | 03:10 |
| diddledan | two-thirds of the way | 03:11 |
| diddledan | that 87million is the total number of lines | 03:11 |
| diddledan | currently I've indexed 67,271,021 of those | 03:12 |
| diddledan | the big tall line above everything else is obviously #ubuntu | 03:14 |
| diddledan | looks like we peaked message-count in april 07 | 03:14 |
| === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon | ||
| zmoylan-pi | the spawning of all the extra channels in 2010 would split the community and lower the overall totals | 03:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | comments on ms's new home automation dealy... 'Microsoft's smart digital assistant Cortana can already answer your queries, even if the PC's screen is locked.' -- 'Cortana. How do I break into this locked PC?' | 04:23 |
| Gargoyle | Mornin' all | 08:16 |
| knightwi1e | hey everyone | 08:55 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:22 |
| Laney | why do people use speaker phone when walking around in public? | 09:31 |
| Laney | you can't hear it properly and they can't hear you, especially when you shout directly into the microphone | 09:31 |
| Laney | but there must be a reason | 09:31 |
| Laney | what is it? | 09:31 |
| davmor2 | Laney: so you can tell how important they are cause they got calls and you didn't | 09:34 |
| Laney | I can see someone doing it out of my window atm | 09:34 |
| Laney | don't /think/ it is posing | 09:34 |
| Laney | she looks like she's having an argument | 09:35 |
| Laney | also standing next to a mediumly busy road so it's even harder to hear on speaker | 09:35 |
| Laney | ME NO UNDERSTAND | 09:35 |
| davmor2 | Laney: I can't put the real reason on this channel because it contains too many expletives ;) | 09:37 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Miners’ Day! 😃 | 09:38 |
| diplo | Morning all | 09:43 |
| diplo | Laney: I know people who won't use the phone against their ear because of cancer scares etc, either use headphones with mic or user speakphone, I see it all the time down this way, think they look and sound ridiculous :) | 09:44 |
| Laney | diplo: oh GOD that too | 09:45 |
| Laney | using those headphones with a microphone and then putting the microphone basically inside your mouth | 09:45 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:45 |
| diplo | Yes, all very frustrating | 09:50 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: I think this is apt for miners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-IoOEPbUs | 09:52 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, https://youtu.be/H_AjiDmr_2U would have been fine. 😉 | 09:58 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s let me throw this one at you too :) | 10:01 |
| daftykins | woo i got a cracker in-app for using android pay! lots of prizes on offer this month | 11:25 |
| TwistedLucidity | Never used Android pay, the very idea gives me the heebies | 11:40 |
| daftykins | well, it's safer than a contactless card in your wallet. | 11:40 |
| TwistedLucidity | What security surrounds it? Are they liable in the same way as credit cards for fraud? | 11:41 |
| TwistedLucidity | daftykins: Get non-contactless cards; simple | 11:41 |
| daftykins | it creates a virtual card so the details shared with pay points aren't that of your real card, for one | 11:41 |
| daftykins | yeah but you can't, my bank for one has told me you won't be able to request non-contactless ones once they start making them | 11:41 |
| TwistedLucidity | Time to get a new bank | 11:41 |
| daftykins | i'm sure it's how it'll go everywhere in time | 11:42 |
| daftykins | best part though, you can just turn NFC off on the phone! | 11:42 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| knightwise | hmm | 12:40 |
| knightwise | there seems to be a Raspberry pi version of Teamviewer :) | 12:40 |
| knightwise | This opens up a great amount of possibilities | 12:40 |
| daftykins | it does? | 12:41 |
| knightwise | I need to set one up as a headless icecast player | 12:41 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: you're not after the spammer again are you ;) | 12:41 |
| knightwise | it needs to bootup and start playing an icecast stream when you plug it in | 12:42 |
| knightwise | davmor2: the spammer ? | 12:42 |
| daftykins | but there are so many more appropriate protocols than a proprietary one like teamviewer for that purpose? | 12:43 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: Microsoft is reporting to us that you have very many viruses spammer drop them into a team viewer on the pi | 12:43 |
| knightwise | daftykins: not if you have to drop the machine behind a router and have no open ports. | 12:43 |
| daftykins | but why would you ever knowingly do that? | 12:44 |
| knightwise | I have to drop off my raspberry pi at a shop in the highstreet where it will be plugged into the pa system | 12:47 |
| knightwise | Then i will need to go to an icecast stream and stream that from the pi | 12:47 |
| knightwise | So i need a way to controll the headless box. | 12:48 |
| daftykins | oh well nevermind, this scenario skips a lot of the start | 12:48 |
| ali1234 | but icecast is just http | 13:14 |
| Azelphur | wow, whatever is spamming freenode is annoying, I literally have 70+ queries open, all spam. | 13:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | i stopped having that problem when i changed my nick to one that starts with z... puts me down at bottom of any list... | 13:41 |
| Azelphur | lol | 13:41 |
| Azelphur | So basically I should /nick Zelphur | 13:42 |
| diplo | I don't get any either and I'm only at d | 13:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | when i display nicks diplo is at bottom of 2nd column of 6 containing 90+ nicks so a 1/3 of the way in | 13:43 |
| daftykins | Azelphur: zAzelphur! :D | 13:48 |
| daftykins | can't have too many though or they'll think you're asleep | 13:49 |
| === john is now known as Guest92988 | ||
| * zmoylan-pi ponders SuperEngineer's technical skills with all the bouncing... :-P | 13:54 | |
| daftykins | :> | 13:56 |
| SuperEngineer | hey, stop the mocking! I'm off worh ill and playing with the setup one my 1+1 | 13:56 |
| daftykins | poor fella, lost to use of his fingers :> | 13:57 |
| SuperEngineer | wrong.... having difficulty breathing actually.... any other insults you care to aim this way and look even more foolish? | 13:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | then bounce away and may all your dvd boxsets keep you amused... :-) | 13:59 |
| SuperEngineer | :D | 13:59 |
| daftykins | SuperEngineer: i hope you're not serious | 13:59 |
| === Guest94477 is now known as christel | ||
| zmoylan-pi | name isn't surely... | 13:59 |
| SuperEngineer | daftykins: it's not serious ifbreathing is not as required as we all thought it was | 14:00 |
| daftykins | SuperEngineer: well i'd like to point out that i say one thing and you get your underwear in a twist about it, so calm down | 14:00 |
| SuperEngineer | wrong daftykins ... I'm using my super powers to annoy you in fun... nothing nasty meant | 14:02 |
| diddledan | yey for text comms obscuring the tonge-in-cheak | 14:02 |
| daftykins | well you sound like a right nob now | 14:02 |
| diddledan | +u | 14:02 |
| diddledan | of course whenever people talk to me, they need to realise my tongue never leaves my cheak | 14:03 |
| diddledan | cheek | 14:03 |
| * zmoylan-pi starts the peace talks by breaking open the milk chocolate hobnobs | 14:03 | |
| diddledan | how is that spelt? | 14:03 |
| daftykins | cheek, yeah | 14:03 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: nobnobs! | 14:03 |
| * diddledan sidles-up to zmoylan-pi | 14:04 | |
| * SuperEngineer blows virtual raspberry | 14:05 | |
| diddledan | pi | 14:05 |
| SuperEngineer | lol | 14:05 |
| * zmoylan-pi prepares the special hobnob with the radio tracker for diddledan | 14:05 | |
| diddledan | mmm, crunchy | 14:05 |
| diddledan | I'm sure there is an allo-allo image we could find that depicts that | 14:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | and not the jug with the drug? but the candle with the handle? | 14:06 |
| SuperEngineer | don't forget: The Gestapo is only insured for third party! | 14:09 |
| diddledan | gespacho? | 14:09 |
| SuperEngineer | so no handles - they break to easily | 14:09 |
| daftykins | Rimmer D: | 14:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | souper! | 14:10 |
| SuperEngineer | So if I fire up Andchat again can you tell me what you see as username please? I set is as SuprEngr1+1 but I'm sure it's not appearing as that. | 14:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | fireup away | 14:11 |
| diddledan | you're fired! | 14:11 |
| SuperEngineer | loading... | 14:11 |
| diddledan | SuperEngineer_: | 14:12 |
| SuperEngineer | +1... damn you Andchat! | 14:12 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbYx6hevoQ | 14:13 |
| SuperEngineer | oh well, I suppose it's not actually that important. | 14:13 |
| diddledan | at least GCHQ knows who you are... | 14:13 |
| SuperEngineer | If I'm usung Andchat I won't normally be a desktop at the same time | 14:13 |
| diddledan | do you often feel like you are furniture? | 14:14 |
| daftykins | you shouldn't use andchat anymore, hasn't been updated in forever - abandoned project | 14:14 |
| SuperEngineer | GCHQ stole the GCHQ banksey of GCHQ depicting GCHQ behaviour | 14:14 |
| diddledan | :-( | 14:14 |
| diddledan | boooo | 14:14 |
| SuperEngineer | [that should arouse attention at their end[] | 14:14 |
| diddledan | SuperEngineer: don't poke the bear! | 14:15 |
| SuperEngineer | woopsey! :-D | 14:15 |
| SuperEngineer | If they come to get me or my pooter I'll fight vigoursly against it... assuming no breathing is required in doing so ;-) | 14:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | a rasp pi zero hidden in cigar tube were sun doesn't shine... :-P | 14:19 |
| SuperEngineer | OUCH! | 14:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | bonus points if you use a cigar tube the british government sent pows in wwii to hide gear... | 14:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's gone very pulp fictiony here for some reason... :-P | 14:22 |
| diddledan | sorry, should I leave? | 14:23 |
| daftykins | lets all go for a meal in a vintage car | 14:23 |
| diddledan | is that a song? | 14:23 |
| diddledan | second verse about a yellow submarine? | 14:23 |
| daftykins | nah it's in Pulp Fiction, the restaurant | 14:23 |
| diddledan | ah gotcha | 14:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | i've always wanted to try a $5 milkshake | 14:24 |
| diddledan | mm, this is a tasty burger | 14:24 |
| diddledan | Tarantino FTW | 14:25 |
| daftykins | big tasty Tarantino burger | 14:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | watched watchmen last night. should watch kill bill 1+2 to help ease me into christmas shopping... :-P | 14:27 |
| daftykins | next up, zmoylan-pi in a yellow jump suit | 14:28 |
| * zmoylan-pi fetches my +3 katana | 14:28 | |
| zmoylan-pi | i lie... it's just an ex irish army machete/bayonet from irelands un adventures... | 14:30 |
| * SuperEngineer prefers the giggles of imagining zmoylan-pi in yellow cat suit | 14:31 | |
| daftykins | XD | 14:31 |
| SuperEngineer | Whew! Just beat smoke from the burning toast out of window before it got to smoke detector | 14:33 |
| SuperEngineer | [really must adjust the setting on that thing} | 14:34 |
| daftykins | mmm now i want pop tarts :D | 14:35 |
| SuperEngineer | pop tearts + toaster = burnt mouth [pop tart + microwave = burnt home] | 14:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | no... beans. on. toast... #foodofthegods | 14:36 |
| SuperEngineer | +1 [with a bit of black pepper in the beans, of course] | 14:37 |
| daftykins | o0 | 14:38 |
| daftykins | hmm maybe that's why the cafe chef asked if i wanted black pepper for my fry up Monday | 14:38 |
| SuperEngineer | [or if adventurous - beans from a chilled can, small amount of garlic, on warmed olive bread | 14:39 |
| * SuperEngineer drifts way to food heaven | 14:39 | |
| zmoylan-pi | no... now you're hipstering beans on toast... :-) | 14:39 |
| daftykins | XD | 14:39 |
| SuperEngineer | Whoops - they've guseed I'm actually Elon Musk | 14:40 |
| SuperEngineer | O-O | 14:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | the next tesla will have a microwave preinstalled and a chill cabinet for food and tinned goods | 14:40 |
| daftykins | beats the elephant e-long Tusk | 14:40 |
| SuperEngineer | daftykins: re: "you shouldn't use andchat anymore"... suggestions? AndroIRC perhaps? | 14:49 |
| daftykins | i've not tried in a long time | 14:51 |
| daftykins | YaaIC i had a go with last | 14:51 |
| SuperEngineer | hmmm | 14:52 |
| brobostigon | simplest, get a ssh client, :) | 14:55 |
| daftykins | not very user friendly if you want to IRC from a phone | 14:59 |
| brobostigon | it works though. | 15:00 |
| brobostigon | especially with mosh, to compensate for a bad network connection. | 15:01 |
| davmor2 | daftykins: do you use irssi? | 15:01 |
| daftykins | yes, it's not very well matched to SSH clients on android imo | 15:02 |
| daftykins | since you've got no features for quick nick highlighting and so on, much saner from a native client | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | daftykins: have a look I think it is call irssi connect | 15:02 |
| daftykins | i'm not the one asking so i have no need for this | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | SuperEngineer: ^ | 15:03 |
| davmor2 | daftykins: sorry dude :) | 15:03 |
| SuperEngineer | mm - not impressed with YaaIRC... | 15:12 |
| daftykins | that's not the name i recall | 15:12 |
| SuperEngineer | [or my connection settup, perhaps | 15:12 |
| SuperEngineer | ..& AndroIRC wants too many permissions, so no. Staying with AndChat for now. | 15:16 |
| diddledan | wat: https://twitter.com/Sean__Clare/status/806132017242972161/video/1 | 15:20 |
| diddledan | dogs scare off inanimate flying machines | 15:20 |
| daftykins | why is her pic of herself yawning? :P | 15:21 |
| daftykins | XD | 15:22 |
| SuperEngineer | warning: firing up andchat to check all ok... | 15:36 |
| diddledan | brace for impact my friend | 15:36 |
| SuperEngineer | damn! "SuprEngr1+1 Erroeous Nickname" | 15:37 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-L4tVksGYc | 15:39 |
| daftykins | nobody cares what device you're on :P | 15:41 |
| diddledan | daftykins: one word: zmoylan-pi | 15:41 |
| daftykins | ;) | 15:42 |
| SuperEngineer | weee! old settings restored - mobile ready | 15:42 |
| SuperEngineer_ | Ghost now signing out | 15:43 |
| diddledan | I wanna watch BSG end-to-end now | 15:43 |
| diddledan | (again) | 15:43 |
| SuperEngineer | BSG... it's BFG for the advanced user | 15:44 |
| SuperEngineer | & zmoylan-pi actually uses a BBC micro - it must be true, I read it it the Daily Mail | 15:46 |
| SuperEngineer | *in | 15:47 |
| diddledan | MS+LinkedIn has been approved: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2016/12/06/microsoft-linkedin-deal-cleared-regulators-opening-doors-people-around-world/ | 15:50 |
| SuperEngineer | Are you allowed to use such nasty language as the Lin*** word in this channel? | 15:52 |
| SuperEngineer | "an annoymous spammer you've never heard of but wants to damage your computer has invited you to join l****d" | 15:54 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | 15:58 |
| popey | hello | 16:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | popey, hi | 16:00 |
| SuperEngineer | o/ | 16:05 |
| === PaulW2U_ is now known as PaulW2U | ||
| ball | What's a good channel for someone just starting out in Linux who might have some questions? | 19:58 |
| daftykins | #linux ? | 19:59 |
| ball | Thanks daftykins | 19:59 |
| daftykins | #ubuntu might be a bit more friendly, but noted distro bias | 19:59 |
| ball | Hmm... ok. | 20:00 |
| ball | You know, I might fetch Xubuntu. | 20:00 |
| ball | I remember liking that one when I tried it. | 20:00 |
| daftykins | mmm nice DE, nice and light spin | 20:00 |
| * ball kicks off the download | 20:03 | |
| ball | hello pavlushka | 20:07 |
| daftykins | might not be here, just connection bouncing all day ;) | 20:08 |
| * ball bounces | 20:08 | |
| daftykins | :D | 20:08 |
| * ball checks on his Xubuntu download | 20:30 | |
| ball | woohoo! It's done. | 20:30 |
| daftykins | \o/ now to the flash drive | 20:31 |
| * zmoylan-pi inserts spinning ubuntu symbol.... | 20:33 | |
| ball | I have to wait for my Raspberry Pi to finish doing Raspberry Pi things so that I can power it down and free up enough desk space to set up a Xubuntu test rig. | 20:36 |
| ball | ...or I suppose I could just pull the plug on it. | 20:38 |
| * ball cackles, evilly. | 20:38 | |
| ali1234 | just buy another one | 20:39 |
| ball | ali1234: Another what? | 20:39 |
| ali1234 | raspberry pi | 20:39 |
| ali1234 | i've got like 15 of them | 20:40 |
| ball | ali1234: I have two: a 1B and 2B | 20:40 |
| ball | ali1234: Don't think Xubuntu's an option on those though. | 20:40 |
| ball | ...and I'd need a much faster microSDHC card, anyway. | 20:40 |
| daftykins | and a different ISO >:) | 21:34 |
| ball | daftykins: Aye, that too. | 22:11 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu works on the 2B | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | not unity though | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | mate and xfce should work | 22:15 |
| === stas is now known as Guest32625 | ||
| diddledan | just finished watching westworld. wow. | 23:11 |
| daftykins | ah i snagged that earlier | 23:12 |
| daftykins | doesn't end on a cliff hanger does it? i heard season 2 will only come in 2018 | 23:13 |
| diddledan | really epic finale | 23:13 |
| diddledan | and yes cliff hanger | 23:13 |
| daftykins | woot! ok now i won't watch ;D | 23:13 |
| diddledan | lol | 23:13 |
| diddledan | it kinda finishes the series off ok but leaves you anticipating the next one rather than leaving you with a guy about to fall but not showing whether he did or not | 23:14 |
| diddledan | it would work as a standalone series where you wish they'd make another if they weren't going to | 23:14 |
| daftykins | ah har | 23:15 |
| daftykins | linked from another channel - https://www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/ | 23:15 |
| diddledan | wow that's bad | 23:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | i've answered the phone to these people, it shouldn't be a shock... | 23:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | q. what browser are you using? a. excel. | 23:22 |
| diddledan | at least they knew the answer | 23:23 |
| diddledan | s/the/an/ | 23:23 |
| diddledan | at least they knew an answer | 23:23 |
| diddledan | it may not be correct but at least they had one | 23:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | true... if you can get them to read text of the screen with 2-3 prompts you can usually get there in the end... but that's not always a given | 23:23 |
| diddledan | it's the folk that complain that the website is down when they're at home and their power is off | 23:24 |
| diddledan | company website* | 23:24 |
| daftykins | but i can't get to it! | 23:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | or those that have forgotten the alphabet and don't know what a letter c is... | 23:24 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: it's salty and wet | 23:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think i've told you of the mate who after finishing a major reconfig over the phone of a dos based pos system needed the customer to type 2 lines 'cd \video' and 'video' and after 30 minutes effort found it was easier to drive there and type it in himself... | 23:26 |
| daftykins | a truly POS system | 23:28 |
| diddledan | point of sale? | 23:28 |
| daftykins | :D | 23:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah a dos based video point of sale system... the spec given to the programer fit on a post-it 'videos in/videos out' worst spec ever as that morphed into a 5 year coding marathon that cost the developer his sanity | 23:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | pretty much everything he was told would never be required was added at a later stage making all previous code broken | 23:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | and adding on tiny features like running sunbed systesm/sales of food and dvds/internet cafe made it a slight challenge... | 23:32 |
| daftykins | O_O | 23:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | he writes android apps now... it's a pleasent relief... | 23:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's only java... | 23:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | how hard could that be on multiple random cheap nasty chinese devices? | 23:36 |
| m0nkey_ | People. I need a phone. Given the choice between a LG G5 or iPhone SE (64GB), which would you take? | 23:50 |
| daftykins | does it have to be those... | 23:52 |
| m0nkey_ | There is also the Moto Z Play | 23:52 |
| m0nkey_ | I want a cheap plan and phone. Don't care much for the platform. | 23:52 |
| daftykins | what size LG G5 can you get? | 23:53 |
| daftykins | storage wise | 23:53 |
| m0nkey_ | I think it's 32GB | 23:53 |
| m0nkey_ | But I can shove in a SD card | 23:53 |
| daftykins | looks like the motorola is a fair step down in CPU and loses 1GB RAM compared with the LG G5, but it came out in September vs. the April G5 so it's a bit newer | 23:54 |
| daftykins | i don't even consider Apple devices because i don't like the companies practices | 23:55 |
| daftykins | ah the LG still has a removable battery though, if you care about that | 23:55 |
| m0nkey_ | Yeah, that's a nice legacy feature | 23:56 |
| daftykins | i'm put off by the 2560x1440 res screen though :/ lot of wasted pixels | 23:56 |
| diddledan | every pixie is sacred | 23:56 |
| daftykins | when you see the default UI scale level it's pretty cringe at times | 23:57 |
| m0nkey_ | Meh, I guess specs don't bother me lately. | 23:59 |
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