=== zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [02:56] right, I've locked-down kibana now so you can't see the url I showed earlier. instead I've got a preliminary graph at https://ubulog.com/ [03:00] so a drop in irc or ubuntu or both... [03:05] the data is still incomplete [03:05] so that may change, but it's an interesting trend that has emerged thus far [03:07] doubt it will change the overall results much [03:07] so far I've indexed about 67million lines of log. just running a check to see how many there are total [03:10] 87,673,240 [03:10] so mostly there [03:11] two-thirds of the way [03:11] that 87million is the total number of lines [03:12] currently I've indexed 67,271,021 of those [03:14] the big tall line above everything else is obviously #ubuntu [03:14] looks like we peaked message-count in april 07 === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon [03:25] the spawning of all the extra channels in 2010 would split the community and lower the overall totals [04:23] comments on ms's new home automation dealy... 'Microsoft's smart digital assistant Cortana can already answer your queries, even if the PC's screen is locked.' -- 'Cortana. How do I break into this locked PC?' [08:16] Mornin' all [08:55] hey everyone [09:22] Morning all [09:31] why do people use speaker phone when walking around in public? [09:31] you can't hear it properly and they can't hear you, especially when you shout directly into the microphone [09:31] but there must be a reason [09:31] what is it? [09:34] Laney: so you can tell how important they are cause they got calls and you didn't [09:34] I can see someone doing it out of my window atm [09:34] don't /think/ it is posing [09:35] she looks like she's having an argument [09:35] also standing next to a mediumly busy road so it's even harder to hear on speaker [09:35] ME NO UNDERSTAND [09:37] Laney: I can't put the real reason on this channel because it contains too many expletives ;) [09:38] Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Miners’ Day! 😃 [09:43] Morning all [09:44] Laney: I know people who won't use the phone against their ear because of cancer scares etc, either use headphones with mic or user speakphone, I see it all the time down this way, think they look and sound ridiculous :) [09:45] diplo: oh GOD that too [09:45] using those headphones with a microphone and then putting the microphone basically inside your mouth [09:45] morning boys and girls. [09:50] Yes, all very frustrating [09:52] JamesTait: I think this is apt for miners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-IoOEPbUs [09:58] davmor2, https://youtu.be/H_AjiDmr_2U would have been fine. 😉 [10:01] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s let me throw this one at you too :) [11:25] woo i got a cracker in-app for using android pay! lots of prizes on offer this month [11:40] Never used Android pay, the very idea gives me the heebies [11:40] well, it's safer than a contactless card in your wallet. [11:41] What security surrounds it? Are they liable in the same way as credit cards for fraud? [11:41] daftykins: Get non-contactless cards; simple [11:41] it creates a virtual card so the details shared with pay points aren't that of your real card, for one [11:41] yeah but you can't, my bank for one has told me you won't be able to request non-contactless ones once they start making them [11:41] Time to get a new bank [11:42] i'm sure it's how it'll go everywhere in time [11:42] best part though, you can just turn NFC off on the phone! === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [12:40] hmm [12:40] there seems to be a Raspberry pi version of Teamviewer :) [12:40] This opens up a great amount of possibilities [12:41] it does? [12:41] I need to set one up as a headless icecast player [12:41] knightwise: you're not after the spammer again are you ;) [12:42] it needs to bootup and start playing an icecast stream when you plug it in [12:42] davmor2: the spammer ? [12:43] but there are so many more appropriate protocols than a proprietary one like teamviewer for that purpose? [12:43] knightwise: Microsoft is reporting to us that you have very many viruses spammer drop them into a team viewer on the pi [12:43] daftykins: not if you have to drop the machine behind a router and have no open ports. [12:44] but why would you ever knowingly do that? [12:47] I have to drop off my raspberry pi at a shop in the highstreet where it will be plugged into the pa system [12:47] Then i will need to go to an icecast stream and stream that from the pi [12:48] So i need a way to controll the headless box. [12:48] oh well nevermind, this scenario skips a lot of the start [13:14] but icecast is just http [13:39] wow, whatever is spamming freenode is annoying, I literally have 70+ queries open, all spam. [13:41] i stopped having that problem when i changed my nick to one that starts with z... puts me down at bottom of any list... [13:41] lol [13:42] So basically I should /nick Zelphur [13:42] I don't get any either and I'm only at d [13:43] when i display nicks diplo is at bottom of 2nd column of 6 containing 90+ nicks so a 1/3 of the way in [13:48] Azelphur: zAzelphur! :D [13:49] can't have too many though or they'll think you're asleep === john is now known as Guest92988 [13:54] * zmoylan-pi ponders SuperEngineer's technical skills with all the bouncing... :-P [13:56] :> [13:56] hey, stop the mocking! I'm off worh ill and playing with the setup one my 1+1 [13:57] poor fella, lost to use of his fingers :> [13:58] wrong.... having difficulty breathing actually.... any other insults you care to aim this way and look even more foolish? [13:59] then bounce away and may all your dvd boxsets keep you amused... :-) [13:59] :D [13:59] SuperEngineer: i hope you're not serious === Guest94477 is now known as christel [13:59] name isn't surely... [14:00] daftykins: it's not serious ifbreathing is not as required as we all thought it was [14:00] SuperEngineer: well i'd like to point out that i say one thing and you get your underwear in a twist about it, so calm down [14:02] wrong daftykins ... I'm using my super powers to annoy you in fun... nothing nasty meant [14:02] yey for text comms obscuring the tonge-in-cheak [14:02] well you sound like a right nob now [14:02] +u [14:03] of course whenever people talk to me, they need to realise my tongue never leaves my cheak [14:03] cheek [14:03] * zmoylan-pi starts the peace talks by breaking open the milk chocolate hobnobs [14:03] how is that spelt? [14:03] cheek, yeah [14:03] zmoylan-pi: nobnobs! [14:04] * diddledan sidles-up to zmoylan-pi [14:05] * SuperEngineer blows virtual raspberry [14:05] pi [14:05] lol [14:05] * zmoylan-pi prepares the special hobnob with the radio tracker for diddledan [14:05] mmm, crunchy [14:06] I'm sure there is an allo-allo image we could find that depicts that [14:06] and not the jug with the drug? but the candle with the handle? [14:09] don't forget: The Gestapo is only insured for third party! [14:09] gespacho? [14:09] so no handles - they break to easily [14:09] Rimmer D: [14:10] souper! [14:11] So if I fire up Andchat again can you tell me what you see as username please? I set is as SuprEngr1+1 but I'm sure it's not appearing as that. [14:11] fireup away [14:11] you're fired! [14:11] loading... [14:12] SuperEngineer_: [14:12] +1... damn you Andchat! [14:13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbYx6hevoQ [14:13] oh well, I suppose it's not actually that important. [14:13] at least GCHQ knows who you are... [14:13] If I'm usung Andchat I won't normally be a desktop at the same time [14:14] do you often feel like you are furniture? [14:14] you shouldn't use andchat anymore, hasn't been updated in forever - abandoned project [14:14] GCHQ stole the GCHQ banksey of GCHQ depicting GCHQ behaviour [14:14] :-( [14:14] boooo [14:14] [that should arouse attention at their end[] [14:15] SuperEngineer: don't poke the bear! [14:15] woopsey! :-D [14:18] If they come to get me or my pooter I'll fight vigoursly against it... assuming no breathing is required in doing so ;-) [14:19] a rasp pi zero hidden in cigar tube were sun doesn't shine... :-P [14:19] OUCH! [14:22] bonus points if you use a cigar tube the british government sent pows in wwii to hide gear... [14:22] it's gone very pulp fictiony here for some reason... :-P [14:23] sorry, should I leave? [14:23] lets all go for a meal in a vintage car [14:23] is that a song? [14:23] second verse about a yellow submarine? [14:23] nah it's in Pulp Fiction, the restaurant [14:24] ah gotcha [14:24] i've always wanted to try a $5 milkshake [14:24] mm, this is a tasty burger [14:25] Tarantino FTW [14:25] big tasty Tarantino burger [14:27] watched watchmen last night. should watch kill bill 1+2 to help ease me into christmas shopping... :-P [14:28] next up, zmoylan-pi in a yellow jump suit [14:28] * zmoylan-pi fetches my +3 katana [14:30] i lie... it's just an ex irish army machete/bayonet from irelands un adventures... [14:31] * SuperEngineer prefers the giggles of imagining zmoylan-pi in yellow cat suit [14:31] XD [14:33] Whew! Just beat smoke from the burning toast out of window before it got to smoke detector [14:34] [really must adjust the setting on that thing} [14:35] mmm now i want pop tarts :D [14:35] pop tearts + toaster = burnt mouth [pop tart + microwave = burnt home] [14:36] no... beans. on. toast... #foodofthegods [14:37] +1 [with a bit of black pepper in the beans, of course] [14:38] o0 [14:38] hmm maybe that's why the cafe chef asked if i wanted black pepper for my fry up Monday [14:39] [or if adventurous - beans from a chilled can, small amount of garlic, on warmed olive bread [14:39] * SuperEngineer drifts way to food heaven [14:39] no... now you're hipstering beans on toast... :-) [14:39] XD [14:40] Whoops - they've guseed I'm actually Elon Musk [14:40] O-O [14:40] the next tesla will have a microwave preinstalled and a chill cabinet for food and tinned goods [14:40] beats the elephant e-long Tusk [14:49] daftykins: re: "you shouldn't use andchat anymore"... suggestions? AndroIRC perhaps? [14:51] i've not tried in a long time [14:51] YaaIC i had a go with last [14:52] hmmm [14:55] simplest, get a ssh client, :) [14:59] not very user friendly if you want to IRC from a phone [15:00] it works though. [15:01] especially with mosh, to compensate for a bad network connection. [15:01] daftykins: do you use irssi? [15:02] yes, it's not very well matched to SSH clients on android imo [15:02] since you've got no features for quick nick highlighting and so on, much saner from a native client [15:02] daftykins: have a look I think it is call irssi connect [15:02] i'm not the one asking so i have no need for this [15:03] SuperEngineer: ^ [15:03] daftykins: sorry dude :) [15:12] mm - not impressed with YaaIRC... [15:12] that's not the name i recall [15:12] [or my connection settup, perhaps [15:16] ..& AndroIRC wants too many permissions, so no. Staying with AndChat for now. [15:20] wat: https://twitter.com/Sean__Clare/status/806132017242972161/video/1 [15:20] dogs scare off inanimate flying machines [15:21] why is her pic of herself yawning? :P [15:22] XD [15:36] warning: firing up andchat to check all ok... [15:36] brace for impact my friend [15:37] damn! "SuprEngr1+1 Erroeous Nickname" [15:39] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-L4tVksGYc [15:41] nobody cares what device you're on :P [15:41] daftykins: one word: zmoylan-pi [15:42] ;) [15:42] weee! old settings restored - mobile ready [15:43] Ghost now signing out [15:43] I wanna watch BSG end-to-end now [15:43] (again) [15:44] BSG... it's BFG for the advanced user [15:46] & zmoylan-pi actually uses a BBC micro - it must be true, I read it it the Daily Mail [15:47] *in [15:50] MS+LinkedIn has been approved: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2016/12/06/microsoft-linkedin-deal-cleared-regulators-opening-doors-people-around-world/ [15:52] Are you allowed to use such nasty language as the Lin*** word in this channel? [15:54] "an annoymous spammer you've never heard of but wants to damage your computer has invited you to join l****d" [15:58] hi [16:00] hello [16:00] popey, hi [16:05] o/ === PaulW2U_ is now known as PaulW2U [19:58] What's a good channel for someone just starting out in Linux who might have some questions? [19:59] #linux ? [19:59] Thanks daftykins [19:59] #ubuntu might be a bit more friendly, but noted distro bias [20:00] Hmm... ok. [20:00] You know, I might fetch Xubuntu. [20:00] I remember liking that one when I tried it. [20:00] mmm nice DE, nice and light spin [20:03] * ball kicks off the download [20:07] hello pavlushka [20:08] might not be here, just connection bouncing all day ;) [20:08] * ball bounces [20:08] :D [20:30] * ball checks on his Xubuntu download [20:30] woohoo! It's done. [20:31] \o/ now to the flash drive [20:33] * zmoylan-pi inserts spinning ubuntu symbol.... [20:36] I have to wait for my Raspberry Pi to finish doing Raspberry Pi things so that I can power it down and free up enough desk space to set up a Xubuntu test rig. [20:38] ...or I suppose I could just pull the plug on it. [20:38] * ball cackles, evilly. [20:39] just buy another one [20:39] ali1234: Another what? [20:39] raspberry pi [20:40] i've got like 15 of them [20:40] ali1234: I have two: a 1B and 2B [20:40] ali1234: Don't think Xubuntu's an option on those though. [20:40] ...and I'd need a much faster microSDHC card, anyway. [21:34] and a different ISO >:) [22:11] daftykins: Aye, that too. [22:15] ubuntu works on the 2B [22:15] not unity though [22:15] mate and xfce should work === stas is now known as Guest32625 [23:11] just finished watching westworld. wow. [23:12] ah i snagged that earlier [23:13] doesn't end on a cliff hanger does it? i heard season 2 will only come in 2018 [23:13] really epic finale [23:13] and yes cliff hanger [23:13] woot! ok now i won't watch ;D [23:13] lol [23:14] it kinda finishes the series off ok but leaves you anticipating the next one rather than leaving you with a guy about to fall but not showing whether he did or not [23:14] it would work as a standalone series where you wish they'd make another if they weren't going to [23:15] ah har [23:15] linked from another channel - https://www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/ [23:15] wow that's bad [23:21] i've answered the phone to these people, it shouldn't be a shock... [23:22] q. what browser are you using? a. excel. [23:23] at least they knew the answer [23:23] s/the/an/ [23:23] at least they knew an answer [23:23] it may not be correct but at least they had one [23:23] true... if you can get them to read text of the screen with 2-3 prompts you can usually get there in the end... but that's not always a given [23:24] it's the folk that complain that the website is down when they're at home and their power is off [23:24] company website* [23:24] but i can't get to it! [23:24] or those that have forgotten the alphabet and don't know what a letter c is... [23:24] zmoylan-pi: it's salty and wet [23:26] i think i've told you of the mate who after finishing a major reconfig over the phone of a dos based pos system needed the customer to type 2 lines 'cd \video' and 'video' and after 30 minutes effort found it was easier to drive there and type it in himself... [23:28] a truly POS system [23:28] point of sale? [23:28] :D [23:31] yeah a dos based video point of sale system... the spec given to the programer fit on a post-it 'videos in/videos out' worst spec ever as that morphed into a 5 year coding marathon that cost the developer his sanity [23:31] pretty much everything he was told would never be required was added at a later stage making all previous code broken [23:32] and adding on tiny features like running sunbed systesm/sales of food and dvds/internet cafe made it a slight challenge... [23:34] O_O [23:35] he writes android apps now... it's a pleasent relief... [23:35] it's only java... [23:36] how hard could that be on multiple random cheap nasty chinese devices? [23:50] People. I need a phone. Given the choice between a LG G5 or iPhone SE (64GB), which would you take? [23:52] does it have to be those... [23:52] There is also the Moto Z Play [23:52] I want a cheap plan and phone. Don't care much for the platform. [23:53] what size LG G5 can you get? [23:53] storage wise [23:53] I think it's 32GB [23:53] But I can shove in a SD card [23:54] looks like the motorola is a fair step down in CPU and loses 1GB RAM compared with the LG G5, but it came out in September vs. the April G5 so it's a bit newer [23:55] i don't even consider Apple devices because i don't like the companies practices [23:55] ah the LG still has a removable battery though, if you care about that [23:56] Yeah, that's a nice legacy feature [23:56] i'm put off by the 2560x1440 res screen though :/ lot of wasted pixels [23:56] every pixie is sacred [23:57] when you see the default UI scale level it's pretty cringe at times [23:59] Meh, I guess specs don't bother me lately.