[06:46] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[06:47] <pavlushka> afternoon Kilos :)
[06:48] <Kilos> haha
[06:48] <pavlushka> anyone here running xubuntu?
[06:52] <paddatrapper> pavlushka: The question is more who here is actually running a flavour of Ubuntu :)
[06:53] <pavlushka> lol, this is #ubuntu-za channel! how irrelevant that could be, :p
[06:57] <qwebirc28282> good afternoon
[06:57] <pavlushka> paddatrapper: but may be the actual scenario is that what you are describing.
[06:57] <qwebirc28282> No one wants to ask, how to lock the desktop background settings that can not be changed  in ubuntu. 
[06:57] <qwebirc28282> anyone can help me ?
[06:57] <Kilos> hi qwebirc28282 
[06:58] <Kilos> what do you need help with
[06:58] <Kilos> oh i see
[06:58] <Kilos> which release of ubuntu have you got
[06:59] <qwebirc28282> Ubuntu 12.10
[07:00] <Kilos> oh my thats so old
[07:00] <qwebirc28282> I also disposable Ubuntu 16:04lts
[07:01] <Kilos> http://www.complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-lock-your-screen-computer
[07:04] <qwebirc28282> that's not what I mean ,,
[07:04] <qwebirc28282> the point is how do I prevent my desktop display image can not be changed
[07:04] <Kilos> how is it changing
[07:04] <Kilos> are you the only one using it
[07:05] <qwebirc28282> I wanted to lock his desktop background so that other people can not change
[07:07] <qwebirc28282> can understand what I mean /
[07:07] <Kilos> yes im trying to find out
[07:08] <Kilos> right click on screen and see options
[07:08] <Kilos> i can remember how i did it back then
[07:08] <Kilos> i cant remember sorry
[07:09] <Kilos> but we will find a way
[07:09] <qwebirc28282> so how
[07:09] <qwebirc28282> ?
[07:09] <Kilos> im using google to see how others have done it
[07:10] <Kilos> google how to lock desktop background on 12.04
[07:10] <Kilos> there many links
[07:10] <qwebirc28282> okey, i wait
[07:12] <Kilos> one guy says do this in the terminal
[07:12] <Kilos> su USERNAME -c 'COMMAND' 
[07:12] <superfly> Kilos: no, that's running a command as another user
[07:12] <Kilos> pavlushka jump in here
[07:12] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[07:14] <theblazehen> Have a look at polkit stuff potentially? Although I think that is more just system side stuff. gconf might have it, otherwise cron job every minute to set the background
[07:14] <Kilos> theblazehen can you help him
[07:14] <theblazehen> Kilos not right now, sorry. Maybe later if no one else can
[07:15] <Kilos> too much in google about that and cron jobs are for it peeps
[07:15] <Kilos> IT
[07:15] <pavlushka> qwebirc28282: like theblazehen said, you can set a cronjob to set it back the background.
[07:15] <Kilos> qwebirc28282 go through this http://askubuntu.com/questions/124456/is-there-a-way-to-disable-changing-the-background-in-gnome
[07:18] <theblazehen> qwebirc28282 https://github.com/TomSmeets/FractalArt#gnome can set the background
[07:18] <pavlushka> qwebirc28282: you can lock your user account , so no one can even access it and set up another account for others.
[07:19] <pavlushka> qwebirc28282: that way the background set by you will remain unchanged.
[08:05] <inetpro> goeiedag mense 
[08:29] <Kilos> dag se inetpro 
[08:47] <andrewlsd> hi theblazehen Kilos paddatrapper inetpro superfly
[08:47] <theblazehen> hi andrewlsd
[08:48] <andrewlsd> Anyone else here having issues trying to `apt update` against za.archive.ubuntu.com?
[08:48]  * superfly doesn't use Ubuntu anymore
[08:48] <tumbleweed> last time I looked, za.archive.ubuntu.com was in Kenya
[08:48] <andrewlsd> I'm getting this: "The repository 'http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file"
[08:49] <theblazehen> Had that some time back. thatgraemeguy or Symmetria manages it I think?
[08:49]  * inetpro is in a meeting 
[08:49] <inetpro> will test asap 
[08:49] <andrewlsd> superfly: what are you using now? (mobile only?)
[08:49] <superfly> andrewlsd: Debian
[08:49] <superfly> theblazehen: Symmetria, not thatgraemeguy
[08:49] <andrewlsd> aah. pure, or via another Deb distro?
[08:50] <superfly> pure
[08:50] <tumbleweed> andrewlsd: yeah, I'm getting a bunch of 403s from it
[08:50] <tumbleweed> let's tell #ubuntu-mirrors
[08:50] <andrewlsd> thanks tumbleweed
[08:50] <andrewlsd> I wanted to make sure it was not just me.
[08:52] <paddatrapper> hey andrewlsd Kilos inetpro, everyone
[08:52] <theblazehen> hi paddatrapper
[08:53] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd 
[08:56] <Kilos> Symmetria your mirror sick today?
[09:01] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:02] <Kilos> sorry for the join parts
[09:02] <Kilos> net sucks here
[09:45] <Kilos> andrewlsd is that repo fixed
[09:46] <Kilos> neology is working fine
[09:47] <andrewlsd> thanks Kilos
[09:48] <Kilos> yw
[09:49] <andrewlsd> Kilos: liquid-telecom one still says "Archive-Update-in-Progress-mirror.liquidtelecom.com"
[09:49] <Kilos> ah that will explain it
[09:50] <Kilos> i thought Symmetria had it set to update after midnight
[09:54] <inetpro> midnight on what timezone? 
[09:54] <Kilos> he is close to us
[09:54] <Kilos> 1 hour diffs maybe
[09:56] <andrewlsd> (I have switched to the Neology mirror now)
[09:56] <Kilos> nice and fast imo
[09:56] <Kilos> ipv6
[11:09] <inetpro> uh-oh!
[11:09] <inetpro> Symmetria: waar is jy?
[11:30]  * andrewlsd disconnecs
[11:45] <Kilos> haha
[11:55] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: you have a bad disconnect, connect first and then disconnect properly :p
[11:56] <Kilos> lol
[11:56] <MaNI> Is there an easy command I can use to find out -which- 14.04 someone is on? i.e. is it 14.04.1 or 14.04.4 or whatever
[11:59] <pavlushka> MaNI: lsb_release -rd
[12:00] <MaNI> thanks
[12:01] <Kilos> well done pavlushka 
[12:01] <Kilos> ill be coming to you for tutoring some time
[12:02] <pavlushka> thanks oom Kilos  :)
[12:04] <Kilos> did you help that indian guy pavlushka ?
[12:04] <pavlushka> Kilos: She/He got properly disconnected.
[12:05] <Kilos> ai!
[12:45] <inetpro> Kilos: so, what is the neology address for updates?
[12:45] <Kilos> sec
[12:47] <Kilos> http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu
[12:51] <inetpro> dankie
[12:51] <Kilos> baie welkom
[12:57] <inetpro> sudo sed -i'.bak' 's/za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:22] <inetpro> or even better, change them all at once
[13:22] <inetpro> ansible all_ubuntu -m replace -s -a "dest=/etc/apt/sources.list regexp='za.archive.ubuntu.com' replace='ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za' backup=yes"
[13:34] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:34] <Kilos> i just tick it in synaptic repositories
[13:41] <inetpro> with that ^^ I changed the mirror to neology on 12 machines at once
[14:00] <Kilos> well done my son
[14:00] <Kilos> you too clever for your own good
[14:25] <Kilos> Maaz tell LangJan http://www.datamation.com/open-source/seven-things-you-can-do-in-kde-but-not-on-other-linux-desktops-1.html
[14:25] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[14:26] <Kilos>  Maaz tell LangJan  https://www.linux.com/learn/how-use-kde-plasma-desktop-pro
[14:26] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[16:00]  * Kilos awaits langjan
[16:00] <Kilos> still having flash issues
[16:21] <jan_> Hi kil
[16:21] <jan_> Kilos, 
[16:22] <Kilos> hi jan_ 
[16:22] <Kilos> kil tab man
[16:23] <jan_> I got a new name with a tail
[16:23] <Kilos> i see so
[16:23] <Kilos> hyou supposed to put the right name in when you setup man
[16:23] <jan_> how was your day?
[16:23] <Kilos> slow and peaceful ty and yours
[16:24] <jan_> It picked up from previous files - sorry!
[16:24] <jan_> Also fine thks
[16:25] <Kilos> lol
[16:25] <Kilos> dont be sorry man
[16:26] <Kilos> you the one with the wrong nick and a tail
[16:26] <jan_> Ja be careful. 
[16:26] <Kilos> lol
[16:26] <Kilos> you still having flash issue?
[16:26] <Kilos> explain when it happens
[16:26] <Kilos> playing local stuff or streaming
[16:26] <jan_> yes but first maybe try fix this: N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[16:28] <jan_> You tube videos fine but shows error on this site for example: http://www.speedtest.net/
[16:29] <Kilos> lemme see
[16:31] <Kilos> long story as well
[16:31] <Kilos> type in saix.net
[16:31] <jan_> terminal?
[16:31] <Kilos> no in browser
[16:32] <Kilos> url thing
[16:32] <jan_> I get a long list from Google
[16:33] <jan_> now I get Telkom
[16:34] <jan_> It asks for flash then shows same error
[16:34] <Kilos> eish
[16:35] <Kilos> lets wait for inetpro he will know the cure
[16:35] <jan_> ok thks
[16:36] <jan_> Any suggestion how to fix this one? Shows up in terminal every time: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension 
[16:37] <jan_> Link does not open here
[16:37] <Kilos> sudo nano it
[16:37] <Kilos> then you can read it
[16:38] <jan_> sudo nano then the link? 
[16:38] <Kilos> ya
[16:38] <Kilos> thats a path to where that error is logged or kept
[16:39] <Kilos> in you root files
[16:39] <Kilos> superfly you busy sir?
[16:40] <Kilos> you not in family time i know
[16:40] <jan_> It showsblank page and some settings at the bottom, i.e. get help etc   
[16:40] <Kilos> maybe ,making your own supper
[16:40] <Kilos> lemme see mine
[16:41] <Kilos> ya empty as well
[16:41] <Kilos> control x to close it
[16:41] <superfly> YouTube doesn't use Flash anymore.
[16:41] <superfly> Speedtest uses Flask
[16:41] <jan_> found the file, should I try dlete it?
[16:42] <superfly> can't you install that flash-plugin-installer package?
[16:42] <superfly> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin-installer
[16:43] <Kilos> oom jan fly talking to you
[16:44] <jan_> Sorry superfly thks I see that site the 16.04 option is 64 bit? My system is 32
[16:44] <superfly> jan_: I don't know, I don't use Flash
[16:45] <superfly> jan_: just install the package
[16:45] <jan_> ok 
[16:49] <jan_> Site recommends synaptic, theres a list of flashplugins, pepperflash is already installed - do I have to add another and if so how do I detect which one?
[16:53] <jan_> Installing
[17:00] <jan_> Ah progress, synaptic is fixing broken packages
[17:04] <Kilos> yay
[17:11] <jan_> Kilos, gotta go for dinner, many thks so far
[17:21] <Kilos-> mine was also a partial package of the flashplugin-installer
[17:22] <Kilos-> go synaptic
[17:22] <Kilos-> jan_ tell me your speedtest is working now
[17:22] <Kilos-> mine is
[18:02] <jan_> Hi Kilos- im afraid the broken packages prob is not resolved
[18:03] <Kilos-> eish
[18:04] <Kilos-> and if you go to edit in synaptic and tick fix broken?
[18:06] <jan_> It brings up the same error as before
[18:06] <Kilos-> you got the guts to try this
[18:07] <Kilos-> http://www.iasptk.com/ubuntu-fix-broken-package-best-solution/
[18:08] <Kilos-> does it tell you which package is broken jan_ ?
[18:08] <jan_> N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[18:08] <jan_> E: The update command takes no arguments
[18:08] <Kilos-> then we can get rid of it
[18:09] <Kilos-> im scared to play in those files
[18:09] <Kilos-> 30 mins then the pro should arrive
[18:09] <Kilos-> inetpro ?
[18:10] <Kilos-> wheres frogboots
[18:10] <Kilos-> hmm...
[18:12] <Kilos-> do sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[18:13] <Kilos-> jan_ ^^
[18:13] <jan_> just as ec
[18:16] <jan_> Its fixed
[18:16] <Kilos-> how
[18:16] <jan_> synaptic this time fixed them
[18:16] <Kilos-> hahaha
[18:17] <Kilos-> i like synaptic
[18:17] <Kilos-> made for ballies
[18:17] <Kilos-> with dementia
[18:17] <jan_> but this output is still there: N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[18:17] <jan_>  
[18:17] <jan_> every time the terminal runs it ends there
[18:17] <Kilos-> there is nothing in it even
[18:18] <Kilos-> can you rename it
[18:18] <Kilos-> can you find that system.d folder
[18:18] <jan_> well you gave me the link, I think running those comamnds helped
[18:19] <Kilos-> i forget how to see root files in unity
[18:19] <jan_> I found it and deleted it but it seems to have come back in the upgrade
[18:19] <Kilos-> if you can find that one right click rename it
[18:20] <Kilos-> name it with a 1 at the end
[18:20] <Kilos-> then do the update upgrade thing again
[18:20] <Kilos-> i know nothing about system.d
[18:21] <Kilos-> if renaming it crashes something then you just rename it back again
[18:23] <jan_> I did this now all packages are up to date: http://askubuntu.com/questions/829370/n-ignoring-file-50unattended-upgrades-ucf-dist-in-directory-etc-apt-apt-con
[18:24] <jan_> hooray!
[18:25] <jan_> Now let me check some video sites that were messing me around 
[18:26] <Kilos-> yay
[18:26] <Kilos-> well done toppie
[18:32] <jan_> Thks but you put me on track
[18:32] <Kilos-> no man
[18:32] <jan_> videos working but not right
[18:32] <Kilos-> im sure you just come here when you are lonely
[18:33] <jan_> I remember there was a conflict with flash and something on firefox
[18:33] <Kilos-> what you mean not right
[18:33] <Kilos-> you fixed flash now
[18:34] <jan_> streaming on cricfree is extremely erratic and keeps freezing
[18:34] <Kilos-> what is cricfree
[18:34] <Kilos-> freezing or buffering
[18:34] <jan_> no freezing
[18:35] <Kilos-> for how long
[18:35] <jan_> media on family site are working, hooray!
[18:35] <jan_> comes and goes
[18:35] <Kilos-> what comes and goes
[18:35] <jan_> screen goes gray
[18:35] <jan_> then video sticks 
[18:36] <Kilos-> have you checked for additional drivers
[18:36] <Kilos-> type additional in dash
[18:36] <jan_> ok
[18:37] <jan_> additional drivers is installed
[18:37] <Kilos-> ok
[18:37] <Kilos-> is it activated
[18:37] <Kilos-> i dont know if one still has to do that
[18:38] <Kilos-> what is the graphics card
[18:38] <jan_> shows unknown and is not working
[18:39] <Kilos-> does it not show any options
[18:39] <Kilos-> what card man
[18:39] <Kilos-> or is it onboard graphics
[18:40] <jan_> additional drivers in software updates activated now
[18:41] <jan_> solved. You're a star
[18:42] <Kilos-> nono not me
[18:42] <Kilos-> try that cric site
[18:42] <jan_> I did, its fine now 
[18:42] <jan_> all I need now is my name back and to shed the tail
[18:43] <jan_> lmga
[18:45] <Kilos-> yay
[18:45] <Kilos-> name is easy
[18:45] <jan_> system is running well now, a few little things that were niggling are working again
[18:45] <Kilos-> look in hexchat setup stuff
[18:45] <jan_> ok name?
[18:45] <jan_> settings?
[18:45] <Kilos-> or you can change it everytime you arrive here by
[18:46] <Kilos->      /nick LangJan
[18:46] <Kilos-> ya settings or preferences 
[18:46] <Kilos-> i dont member the chat things setups man
[18:47] <Kilos-> oh no
[18:47] <Kilos-> somewhere you must enter your nick and second choice nick
[18:47] <Kilos-> wbb in a mo
[18:51] <Kilos-> back
[18:51] <Kilos-> there you go
[18:51] <Kilos-> well done
[18:51] <Langjan> now if I come back?
[18:51] <Maaz> Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell LangJan http://www.datamation.com/open-source/seven-things-you-can-do-in-kde-but-not-on-other-linux-desktops-1.html" 4 hours, 26 minutes and 31 seconds ago
[18:51] <Maaz> Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell LangJan https://www.linux.com/learn/how-use-kde-plasma-desktop-pro" 4 hours, 25 minutes and 8 seconds ago
[18:51] <Kilos-> haha 
[18:52] <Kilos-> i forgot about that
[18:52] <Kilos-> see how cool kde is
[18:52] <Langjan> will it remember?
[18:52] <Langjan> cool? Its a virus
[18:52] <Kilos-> did you use the nick command
[18:52] <Langjan> yes
[18:52] <Kilos-> then you will need to do it everytime
[18:53] <Langjan> lets see, check you later
[18:53] <Kilos-> somewhere in hexchat must be where you add your nick
[18:54] <Kilos-> maaz tell lanjan http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html
[18:54] <Maaz> Kilos-: I don't know who lanjan is. Say 'lanjan on freenode' and I'll take your word that lanjan exists
[18:54] <Kilos-> ai!
[18:55] <Kilos-> Maaz tell langjan http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html
[18:55] <Maaz> Kilos-: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[18:55] <Kilos-> when in boubt read the instruction manual
[18:55] <Kilos-> doubt as well
[18:56] <inetpro> goiedag mense 
[18:57] <inetpro> is dit al Vrydag? 
[18:58] <inetpro> welkom terug oom Jan 
[18:58] <jan_> dankie inetpro hoe gaan dit met jou?
[18:58] <inetpro> goed en daar? 
[18:59] <jan_> gaan ook goed dankie
[19:01] <Kilos-> http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html
[19:01] <Kilos-> jan_ ^^
[19:02] <Kilos-> naand inetpro 
[19:03] <inetpro> naand sê oom Kilos- 
[19:03] <Kilos-> ai!
[19:04] <inetpro> Kilos-: wat is dit met die snaakse stertjie? 
[19:04] <Kilos> ha your twin came as well
[19:04] <Kilos> waar
[19:04] <inetpro> haha... ok, jy wen 
[19:04] <Kilos> hehe
[19:05] <Langjan> grewe
[19:05] <Maaz> Langjan: By the way, Kilos- on freenode told me "tell langjan http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html" 10 minutes and 2 seconds ago
[19:05] <Langjan> Kilos, dankie virrie boodskap
[19:05] <Kilos> lol bietjie laat ne
[19:06] <Kilos> vergeet jy was jan_
[19:06] <inetpro> ek sien julle ooms kom goed reg hier 
[19:06] <Langjan> lyk of ek reggekom het
[19:06] <Kilos> wel inetpro niemand anders wil kom help nie
[19:06] <Langjan> dis die kop wat deur die grys hare blink
[19:06] <Langjan> die wat nog oor is
[19:07] <Kilos> Langjan did you thank the fly for his help earlier
[19:07] <Kilos> otherwise he sulks
[19:07] <Langjan> I was running around, cant remember
[19:07] <Langjan> superfly, many thks for helping the old man
[19:08] <Langjan> all is sorted now
[19:08] <inetpro> hou maar net die blink kant bo 
[19:09] <Kilos> lol
[19:09] <Langjan> letterlik
[19:09] <Langjan> sal doen
[19:10] <Langjan> ok manne vanaand slaap ek lekker, my ou neukenaar loop pragtig en alles werk eerste keer in lang tyd
[19:10] <Langjan> was worth doing online upgrade kil
[19:10] <Kilos> ek  bly vir jou
[19:10] <inetpro> lekker slaap almal 
[19:10] <Kilos> slaap lekker my viend
[19:10] <Langjan> dis nou nog net daai virus as hy opstart
[19:10] <Kilos> jy ook dankie inetpro 
[19:11] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:11] <Kilos> dit gee karakter
[19:11] <Langjan> jaja
[19:12] <Langjan> julle moet die aand lekker genit, ek gaan nou 'n stukkie waatlemoen sny, net om seker te maak ek staan in die nag op
[19:12] <Kilos> hahahaha gebiet dit ek eet al heel dag daarvan
[19:12] <Kilos> geniet
[19:12] <Langjan> slaap lekker my goeie vriend
[19:13] <Kilos> dankie oom moenie weg bly nie
[19:13] <Langjan> o, het jy en jou meisie toe die rokery uitgesorteer? 
[19:13] <Kilos> oh mja unity sal jou gou terug bring
[19:13] <Kilos> nee sy te vol nonsnse
[19:13] <Langjan> ne wat dis die virus as dit gebeur
[19:13] <Langjan> ai
[19:14] <Kilos> ja ai!
[19:14] <Kilos> groot ai!
[19:14] <Langjan> AI
[19:14] <Kilos> haha
[19:14] <Langjan> sterkte daar en slaap lekker
[19:14] <Kilos> gaan slaap man'
[19:15] <Langjan> nee dis te vroeg vir my
[19:15] <Kilos> ek wag vir haar om wakker te skrik
[19:15] <Langjan> ja sy is al by 06:15 
[19:15] <Kilos> ja
[19:15] <Langjan> same as Canberra
[19:15] <Kilos> maar sy kry swaar met daai siekte
[19:16] <Kilos> altyd pein
[19:16] <Langjan> jammer broer
[19:16] <Langjan> pyn
[19:16] <Kilos> jammer net ek kannie help van hier af nie
[19:16] <Kilos> o ja
[19:16] <Langjan> wat is nou weer haar probleem?
[19:16] <Kilos> maar sy sterk sy doen nog als slf
[19:17] <Kilos> anjkylosing spondilitis
[19:17] <Kilos> ver gevirder
[19:17] <Langjan> o ja, medisyne is goed maar UITERS duur, my seun in Perth het dit ook
[19:17] <Kilos> regte heup en daai sacro been al vas gegroei
[19:17] <Kilos> en 3 verwels solied al
[19:18] <Langjan> sjoe, baie jammer
[19:18] <Kilos> en die groeisels kom al uit op al haar rug verwels en nek
[19:18] <Langjan> eina! dit is baie erg
[19:18] <Kilos> ja sy kry swaar maar sy het baie guts
[19:19] <Langjan> lyk so se vir haar groete en baie sterkte, dink aan haar
[19:19] <Kilos> sy n baie skaarse meisie
[19:19] <Kilos> groen oe en ab- bloed
[19:20] <Langjan> En spesiaal. Blou bloed. Ok nou verlaat ek jou, lekker slaap
[19:20] <Kilos> lekker slaap oom
[19:20] <Langjan> dankie Kilos 
[19:20] <Langjan> jy ook
[19:20] <Kilos> antime
[19:20] <Kilos> anytime too
[19:26] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight