[00:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #748: SUCCESS in 7 min 22 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/748/
[00:15] <valorie> ok, purge went ok
[00:15] <valorie> now updating
[00:17] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/pui6crdur
[00:20] <valorie> acheronuk: is that right ^^^
[00:21] <tsimonq2> valorie: While you're online, can we update the !ninjas flag? :D
[00:21] <tsimonq2> s/we/you/ :P
[00:21] <valorie> so clivejo -- just plain apt update, or add the kci again?
[00:21] <valorie> tsimonq2: I don't have the power to do that
[00:21] <tsimonq2> Oh?
[00:21] <clivejo> install the old version of kde-runtime
[00:21] <valorie> please decide on exactly how it should read, and ask in #ubuntu-ops
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Sorry for the ping guys!
[00:22] <tsimonq2> !ninjas
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Ok, I see
[00:22] <valorie> clive, the version that is offered there in my pastebin?
[00:24] <acheronuk> sudo apt-get install kde-runtime=4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1
[00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_umbrello build #42: STILL FAILING in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_umbrello/42/
[00:25] <valorie> acheronuk: done
[00:29] <valorie> so, to test the newest konvi, add the kci/unstable again, or is it in a PPA by itself?
[00:30] <valorie> clivejo, or acheronuk ^^^
[00:30] <clivejo> add unstable again
[00:30] <valorie> ok
[00:31] <clivejo> do an update and then install konversation
[00:31] <tsimonq2> WHAAAAAAT O________O
[00:31] <tsimonq2> WHY!
[00:31] <tsimonq2> Oh
[00:31] <tsimonq2> Sorry
[00:31] <valorie> under way
[00:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcompactdisc build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcompactdisc/72/
[00:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkipi build #104: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkipi/104/
[00:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kfind build #11: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kfind/11/
[00:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdiagram build #35: FAILURE in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdiagram/35/
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_trojita build #7: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_trojita/7/
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_peruse build #16: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_peruse/16/
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_trojita build #8: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_trojita/8/
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kmailtransport build #112: STILL FAILING in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kmailtransport/112/
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_konqueror build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_konqueror/25/
[00:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime build #302: STILL FAILING in 34 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime/302/
[00:43] <valorie> first bug I encountered in kci/unstable -- there is no restart or shutdown available in the menu
[00:44] <valorie> second one: starting gives me a black screen and device descriptor read/64, error -110
[00:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kwin build #78: STILL FAILING in 36 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kwin/78/
[00:45] <valorie> oh, first part: [     22.681100] usb 1-1.6: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[00:45] <valorie> so I think probably purging again
[00:46] <clivejo> I cant see how usb has anything to do with unstable ?
[00:47] <valorie> gah, not sure I can get our of this
[00:47] <valorie> out
[00:47] <valorie> me either
[00:48] <clivejo> try switching it off, wait 30 seconds and turn it on again
[00:48] <valorie> yes, that will be my first thing
[00:49] <valorie> huh, Kubuntu glows briefly after I hit the off-switch
[00:49] <valorie> that's comforting
[00:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kopete build #29: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kopete/29/
[00:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kde-runtime build #79: STILL FAILING in 41 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kde-runtime/79/
[00:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kde-runtime build #295: STILL FAILING in 45 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kde-runtime/295/
[00:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kopete build #128: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kopete/128/
[00:59] <valorie> hmmm, same result
[00:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kde-runtime build #80: ABORTED in 21 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kde-runtime/80/
[00:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime build #303: ABORTED in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime/303/
[00:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kde-runtime build #296: ABORTED in 29 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kde-runtime/296/
[01:00] <valorie> oh, but this time I can access the terminal
[01:01] <wxl> ok
[01:01] <valorie> but it seems it is not connected to wireless, so I'm not sure how successfull ppa-purge will be
[01:02] <wxl> !info konversation-data zesty
[01:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdiagram build #22: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdiagram/22/
[01:12] <valorie> grrr, forgot this lil lappy is wifi only
[01:12]  * wxl generates entropy with find /
[01:12] <valorie> I guess I'll have to re-install from usb
[01:12] <valorie> :(
[01:12] <wxl> fail sheesh
[01:12] <valorie> but not now, dinner....
[01:13] <acheronuk> valorie: why KCI repo?
[01:13] <wxl> jimminy christmas
[01:13] <wxl> while [ $HOME ]; do find /; done
[01:13] <wxl> FINALLY
[01:13] <valorie> clive wanted me to test the new konversation
[01:14] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: thinking of putting xenial on my deskop once I grab a small ssd 
[01:14] <ahoneybun> for the OS at least
[01:14] <valorie> anyway, later
[01:14] <wxl> uhhh
[01:14] <wxl> mk-sbuild zesty --distro ubuntu
[01:14] <wxl> Specified release (zesty) not known to debootstrap
[01:14] <wxl> ????
[01:15] <acheronuk> !info haveged
[01:15] <ahoneybun> !info zetsy
[01:15] <wxl> oooh nice acheronuk 
[01:15] <tsimonq2> You don't need --distro ubuntu, wxl 
[01:15] <wxl> tsimonq2: says it can't determine distro
[01:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_krita build #26: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_krita/26/
[01:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kitemmodels build #138: STILL UNSTABLE in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kitemmodels/138/
[01:17] <tsimonq2> :/
[01:18] <wxl> yeah there's no zesty link in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts
[01:18] <wxl> weird
[01:19] <wxl> still needed distro
[01:19] <wxl> maybe this is wrong $distribution = "zesty";
[01:20] <tsimonq2> omg yes
[01:20] <tsimonq2> :P
[01:20] <wxl> that'
[01:20] <wxl> s on that wiki page you linked
[01:20] <wxl> go fix it!
[01:20] <tsimonq2> Well
[01:20] <tsimonq2> No
[01:20] <tsimonq2> Sorry
[01:20] <tsimonq2> Giving you crap :P
[01:20] <tsimonq2> First time setup?
[01:21] <wxl> yep 
[01:21] <tsimonq2> So walk me through what you did
[01:21] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[01:26] <acheronuk> I used that wiki on this machine the other day and it set up fine. but this is a zesty box
[01:27] <wxl> yeah mayhap that's the issue
[01:27]  * wxl shrugs
[01:27] <wxl> i should probably updaate this container to at least yakkety
[01:27] <wxl> anyways i got it going now
[01:27] <wxl> after getting rid of the keys and making the zesty link
[01:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdiagram build #23: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdiagram/23/
[01:31] <acheronuk> wxl: fix kdiagram maybe?
[01:32] <acheronuk> not sure if you heard clive say that in BBB?
[01:32] <wxl> acheronuk: i think i could probably do that if all goes well with konversation here.
[01:33] <acheronuk> wxl: cool. was just thinking of ninja points
[01:33] <wxl> acheronuk: yep. much appreciated :)
[01:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kitemmodels build #338: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kitemmodels/338/
[01:36] <acheronuk> hum. I hope someone in the release team approves that new kio binary soon :/
[01:36] <acheronuk> otherwise frameworks in the archive is just stuck not building
[01:36] <wxl> acheronuk: do you have any insight as to why konversation would fail on usr/share/appdata/org.kde.konversation.appdata.xml??
[01:38] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: install Xenial, install standard updates, add backports-landing, update/dist-upgrade?
[01:38] <acheronuk> wxl: appdata default locations have changed a while back. so the path in the .install file probably needs updating
[01:38] <wxl> acheronuk: harumph.
[01:38] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: yep
[01:39] <ahoneybun> alright going to do it with my laptop now
[01:39] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: good luck!
[01:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: That's how I became a ninja. 40 PRs fixing things. XD
[01:39] <ahoneybun> lovely to hear
[01:39] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: yes, I will never forget
[01:39] <wxl> hahahah
[01:39] <tsimonq2> XDD
[01:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: He's the one who approved them ALL. D:
[01:39] <tsimonq2> *:D
[01:40] <wxl> ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/org.kde.konversation.appdata.xml
[01:40] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: quick question
[01:41] <ahoneybun> do we still need this test?
[01:41] <tsimonq2> wxl: Go look at my wiki page, I link to my PRs. XDD
[01:41] <acheronuk> wxl: the build log will show where they get installed in the build
[01:42] <acheronuk> wxl: the install file needs to match that path
[01:42] <wxl> right
[01:43] <wxl> oh interesting
[01:43] <wxl> metainfo instead of appdata
[01:43] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: what test?
[01:43] <acheronuk> the upgrade?
[01:43] <acheronuk> or something else
[01:43] <ahoneybun> the upgrade
[01:45] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: well, every successful upgrade makes me fee better. though a upgrade from a default install is getting less useful now.
[01:46] <wxl> is there a way to pick up the sbuild from the point of failure?
[01:46] <ahoneybun> so what add the backports ppa, update/upgrade then add -landing?
[01:48] <valorie> ha, sharing my phone's internet works
[01:49] <DarinMiller> \o/
[01:50]  * wxl notes that he currently has 3 tmux prefixes to keep track of
[01:52] <ahoneybun> heyo clivejo
[01:52] <ahoneybun> opps
[01:52] <ahoneybun> clem_l: 
[01:52] <acheronuk> hi clem_l :)
[01:52] <tsimonq2> Hey clem_l :)
[01:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kdiagram build #36: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kdiagram/36/
[01:54]  * wxl thinks we should get all the flavor logos into the PUA of the Ubuntu fonts
[01:55] <wxl> how much better this container would look if my status-line was blue and had a k and a kubuntu gear :)
[01:59] <acheronuk> right. night night everyone. 2am here!
[01:59] <wxl> heh nite acheronuk thanks for all the help
[02:00] <DarinMiller> Nite Rik!
[02:00] <wxl> btw hai DarinMiller 
[02:00] <wxl> what you up to?
[02:01] <tsimonq2> O HAI wxl :D
[02:01] <DarinMiller> Hey wxl!  Just home from work and finished with dinner.
[02:01] <DarinMiller> Hey tsimonq2!
[02:01] <DarinMiller> It's a party in here.
[02:01] <ahoneybun> hey nhandler
[02:01] <wxl> DarinMiller: nice. still at work. came in late, but had some time to put together a container and get to work on bumping konversation to 1.6.2 in prep for a SRU in yakkety
[02:02] <wxl> whoa nhandler "the other nathan" is here :)
[02:02] <ahoneybun> yep
[02:03] <wxl> PNG optimization on one CPU sucks.
[02:03] <wxl> woo hoo konversation built!
[02:03] <DarinMiller> wxl: it's nice that you have access outside while at work.  They keep tightening the screws at my work.
[02:04] <DarinMiller> \o/
[02:04] <wxl> DarinMiller: well, i have access over 22, so i ssh somewhere else so i can ssh to the container XD
[02:04] <clem_l> hi everyone, many thanks for the coming update and for the heads up, greatly appreciated
[02:05] <clem_l> I'm in GMT like acheronuk, so I'll head for bed, I look forward to testing it during the week
[02:05] <tsimonq2> clem_l: It would be great if you could stay here for a bit to be fully updated when we press buttons. :)
[02:05] <tsimonq2> Ok o/
[02:06] <clem_l> I'll stay connected and autojoin during the week
[02:07] <clem_l> I'll test on my side, and let me know if you want me to test specific areas or help in any way
[02:07] <ahoneybun> thanks clem_l
[02:07] <tsimonq2> Thanks clem_l :)
[02:07] <clem_l> thanks guys and well done already, I know it was tricky to update QT and all for Plasma 5.8 to be able to get in
[02:08] <ahoneybun> I didn't know that Linux Mint KDE was using the backports ppa
[02:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kitemmodels build #42: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kitemmodels/42/
[02:08] <clem_l> if it wasn't for the PPA there would be no Mint 18 KDE
[02:09] <ahoneybun> oh wow
[02:09] <tsimonq2> O_O :)
[02:09] <clem_l> I know people rave about about Neon but they don't see the whole picture, it wasn't an option for us
[02:09] <tsimonq2> clem_l: I've heard of people trying unsafe things to get new KDE stuffs, we want to make sure that DOESN'T happen :)
[02:10] <tsimonq2> (in Mint)
[02:10] <valorie> dang it, I can't backup my travel lappy, not that it is important, but I can login to the windows that I've never used!
[02:10] <ahoneybun> Neon is more of a developer and people who know what they are doing
[02:10] <ahoneybun> Kubuntu and Mint KDE is for users who just want things to work really
[02:10] <wxl> uhhh
[02:10] <wxl> crap
[02:11] <tsimonq2> Ohai wxl :)
[02:11] <wxl> i guess my kubuntu_zesty_archive branch should be merged with kubuntu_unstable?
[02:11] <wxl> ^^^ santa_ ?
[02:11] <ahoneybun> clem_l: not a Mint user but your community is nice
[02:12] <wxl> oh well
[02:12] <wxl> that's the only thing that makes sense
[02:12] <wxl> done
[02:16] <clem_l> they're nice people, it's our smallest community but they absolutely love KDE :)
[02:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: Link me to your PRs and I'll go merge crazy. :)
[02:17] <wxl> hopefully i did them right
[02:17] <tsimonq2> clem_l: :D
[02:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: Links?
[02:17] <clem_l> they're going to have a heart attack when they hear 5.8 is coming
[02:17] <wxl> https://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/+merge/312604
[02:17] <wxl> https://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/+merge/312611
[02:17] <tsimonq2> clem_l: So is that good or bad? XD
[02:18] <clem_l> they've been waiting for a while and they don't understand the dependency bumps
[02:18] <DarinMiller> tsimonq2: Where do I find the git stuff for kdevelop 5.0.3?  And what KA script that santa wrote the autoretrieve the tar file?
[02:18] <clem_l> oh no, it's good
[02:18] <wxl> in retrospect the changelog probably should have stayed at unstable, but i don't know. santa_ did say to make a kubuntu_zesty_archive branch
[02:19] <clem_l> it's a weird situation because KDE is huge in terms of maintenance yet our KDE community is very small, and at the same time we want things to be stable yet Plasma isn't mature enough that you can freeze it for 2 years like that
[02:21] <valorie> folks, can someone give me the names of the PPAs we're using to test?
[02:21] <valorie> for YY
[02:21] <tsimonq2> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[02:21] <tsimonq2> and
[02:21] <valorie> not gonna try kci/unstable again
[02:21] <tsimonq2> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing
[02:21] <tsimonq2> clem_l: *AHEM* ^ :)
[02:22] <valorie> just those two, no -plasma or -frameworks?
[02:22] <tsimonq2> Yeah that's EVERYTHING
[02:22] <valorie> thanks, ts
[02:22] <valorie> tsimonq2
[02:23] <valorie> seems I've repaired the lil lappy with the help of my phone sharing network
[02:23] <ahoneybun> clem_l: well 5.8 is an LTS release
[02:24] <clem_l> yes so that's it for Qt updates then :)
[02:24] <ahoneybun> so that should work well with Xenial for both our communities
[02:24] <ahoneybun> 5.6.1 works with 5.8 Plasma
[02:27] <clem_l> that's brilliant, when do you plan on pushing towards the backports PPA?
[02:27] <wxl> headed home
[02:27] <tsimonq2> Once everything in backports-landing is triple checked. :)
[02:27] <ahoneybun> I believe we want a bit more testing before pushing it 
[02:27] <tsimonq2> o/ wxl 
[02:27] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:27] <DarinMiller> later wxl 
[02:27] <clem_l> you're talking days or weeks?
[02:28] <tsimonq2> clem_l: THat's why we need your help, and in general testers. We don't want to break Mint!
[02:28] <tsimonq2> 7 days min I think
[02:28] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: I've used it on my desktop and laptop with Yakkety and a Intel NUC with Xenial
[02:28] <clem_l> ok I'll starting testing tomorrow or the day after
[02:28] <ahoneybun> \o/
[02:29] <tsimonq2> \o/
[02:29] <clem_l> we're 99% vanilla on the KDE stack so it should go pretty smooth
[02:29]  * DarinMiller tested 5.8.4 on 4 systems here, 1 desktop 3 laptops
[02:29] <valorie> yay, updating now
[02:29] <valorie> and I found out my windows install on that thing actually boots
[02:29] <valorie> win8
[02:29]  * DarinMiller **wife is a beta tester too and she doesn't even know it** :)
[02:30] <tsimonq2> XD
[02:31] <ahoneybun> living on the edge there
[02:31]  * valorie is on ZZ
[02:31] <valorie> workin' fine
[02:32] <tsimonq2> ...do we have apps 16.04.3 in Backports yet?
[02:32] <tsimonq2> Or just landing?
[02:32] <acheronuk> just landing
[02:33] <tsimonq2> O__o
[02:33]  * acheronuk should not be here 
[02:33] <tsimonq2> I think we're safe to move to Backports then guys
[02:33] <tsimonq2> ?
[02:33] <clem_l> same here acheronuk, come on let's go to bed
[02:33] <clem_l> wait, I didn't mean it like that..
[02:33] <tsimonq2> lol
[02:33] <acheronuk> lol
[02:33] <clem_l> right.. ok, good night everyone :)))
[02:33] <tsimonq2> o/ clem_l 
[02:33] <valorie> nice to meet ya clem
[02:33] <valorie> niters
[02:34] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I would rather keeps stuff together rather than move things to backports bit by bit
[02:35] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: So do "landing day" and just MOVE ALL THE THINGS XDDDD
[02:35] <tsimonq2> Right? :D
[02:35] <acheronuk> yep :P
[02:36] <clem_l> I might ask people to test landing too
[02:37] <clem_l> cause no matter how much you test, people always find more bugs :)
[02:37] <tsimonq2> clem_l: Please do ;)
[02:37] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: plus the translations that go with the apps, will break stuff now if updated plasma doesn't go with them
[02:37] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Fine. :P
[02:38] <clem_l> did you test non-KDE QT apps in Xenial?
[02:38] <acheronuk> clem_l: true. a curious tester who found the ppa pointed out a translations update bug just today
[02:38] <acheronuk> clem_l: see https://yofel.net/kubuntu/backport-report/ben/html/qtbase-abi-5.6.html
[02:39] <clem_l> that's cool
[02:40] <acheronuk> the important user facing apps on that list like calibre, qtcurve etc have been rebuilt against the new Qt 5.6.1 ABI
[02:40] <clem_l> ok so they're part of the PPA now?
[02:40] <acheronuk> yep
[02:40] <clem_l> VLC is ok?
[02:40] <acheronuk> only way we can do it
[02:41] <tsimonq2> There's only one way we can find out, clem_l :)
[02:41]  * tsimonq2 tucks acheronuk and clem_l into bed (:PP)
[02:41] <acheronuk> think so, as it depends on QT, but not on qt 5.5.1 specifically
[02:42] <acheronuk> but we can test :)
[02:43] <tsimonq2> Yep :)
[02:45] <acheronuk> for example Neon has Qt 5.7 but is using the xenial ubuntu build of vlc, which must have been built with qt 5.5.1
[02:45] <acheronuk> no issues AFAIK
[02:46] <clem_l> ah cool
[02:48] <acheronuk> ok. really really goodnight. can sort any issues out if they do occur, I am sure
[02:48]  * acheronuk goes to ZZZZzzzz....
[02:48] <DarinMiller> nite again o/
[02:53] <clem_l> oh.. there's an aptdaemon update?
[02:57] <clem_l> pam-kwallet-init is being removed, but that's probably by design
 Needed for plasma discover, with new appstream and packagekit
 Yes, that should get removed
[02:58] <clem_l> this is you via a proxy, almost in bed? :)
[02:58] <tsimonq2> We have a Telegram channel. :)
 Yes, this telegram bridge is great and evil at the same time!
[03:00] <clem_l> oh, that reminds me..
[03:00] <clem_l> your version of APT is 1.2.15
[03:00] <clem_l> there's an issue in there which is fixed in 1.2.16 already
[03:01] <clem_l> it affects debconf.py, and many python APT wrappers
[03:01] <clem_l> apt reports its progress according to LC_NUMERIC in 1.2.15... so in French for instance instead of starting at 0.0000, it starts at 0,0000
[03:02] <clem_l> that makes a lot of things crash when they int(progress) or float(progress)
[03:02] <clem_l> let me find the issue..
[03:02] <clem_l> if you're working on a point release for 16.04, try to get 1.2.17 in
[03:03] <clem_l> https://github.com/Debian/apt/issues/27
[03:04] <clem_l> you can reproduce this issue with ubiquity and apt 1.2.15, tell it to install stuff (the codecs for instance), give it an LC_NUMERIC which is French/Swedish/Russian, anything that uses commas as thousands separators and it should crash
[03:05] <clem_l> it makes python-apt crash in mintinstall too
 Will have a look tomorrow to see if an update is on ubuntu's radar, if no one gets there first
[03:05] <tsimonq2> I can look at it NOW. :P
[03:05] <clem_l> Ubuntu and Mint differ on how they set their LC_NUMERIC, so I'm not sure...
 Tha
[03:06] <clem_l> in Mint you just choose English language, French timezone, codecs to be installed and it's a crash
 @tsimonq2, That's a shock :P
[03:06] <tsimonq2> @acheronuk: How so? :P
[03:06] <valorie> fooey, after update same hinky error message: [     22.681100] usb 1-1.6: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[03:07] <valorie> I could boot into windows just fine
[03:07] <valorie> hmm, wonder if it could be a kernel issue
[03:07] <tsimonq2> valorie: What USB devices do you have plugged in?
[03:09] <IrcsomeBot1> * acheronuk turns off and hides phone
[03:09] <clem_l> update went fine, no packaging issues
[03:09] <clem_l> 5.8 looks neat, SDDM's got a new look :)
[03:10] <clem_l> cool, it's exciting, it's going to be fun to test, ok I'm definitely going to bed now :)
[03:10] <clem_l> ttyl all
[03:11] <valorie> i had none plugged in at boot
[03:11] <valorie> during the upgrade I plugged my phone in to share network, which worked just fine
[03:19] <valorie> well, booting into the older kernel gave no error message, but still no plasma
[03:19] <valorie> actually, no SDDM when I think of it
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[03:56] <tsimonq2> wxl: ohai
[03:56] <wxl> hai
[03:56] <wxl> stupid lp
[03:57] <tsimonq2> WHat now?
[03:58] <wxl> this! https://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/+merge/312611
[03:58] <wxl> stupid dumb and dumb
[04:01] <tsimonq2> wxl: How good is your Python?
[04:02] <wxl> decent
[04:02] <wxl> not fantabulous
[04:02] <wxl> gimme a few minutes and i can grok just about anything
[04:02] <wxl> but there's a few unique constructs i don't quite get
[04:03] <tsimonq2> Sec
[04:06] <wxl> tsimonq2: https://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/+merge/312616
 Omg dude fix the freaking merge markers!!!
 :P
[04:06] <wxl> ugh
[04:06] <wxl> stupid crap jerk
 But I can't merge it without it being fixed
[04:07] <wxl> ok
[04:07] <wxl> so
[04:07] <wxl> git checkout kubuntu_zesty_archive
[04:07] <wxl> git merge
[04:07] <wxl> fix
[04:07] <wxl> etc
[04:07] <wxl> ?
 Nope, just find the [04:07] <wxl> or do i start in yakkety? i always get confused about that
[04:08] <wxl> they're not there!
[04:08] <wxl> oh
[04:08] <wxl> wait
 OH WTF
[04:08] <wxl> i think i understand
 wrap-and-sort duuuuude!
[04:08] <wxl> i'm running off of my repo
[04:09] <wxl> so i need to merge, i think
 k
[04:10] <wxl> um this is stressing my brain out
[04:10] <wxl> XD
 then unstress your brain
 (Sticker, 384x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/D6MdDxVb/file_1289.webp
 XD
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 Got it wxl?
[04:16] <wxl> YES
[04:16] <wxl> i'm getting there
[04:16] <wxl> one sec tho
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 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qrjTY0uY/file_1290.webp
[04:24] <wxl> and back
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/nv03PpbX/file_1291.mp4
[04:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: What's up, doc?
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[04:26] <wxl> um
[04:26]  * tsimonq2 twiddles thumbs
[04:27] <tsimonq2> Oh?
[04:27] <wxl> what the actual f------
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[04:27] <tsimonq2> !language | wxl 
[04:27] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:27] <wxl> look at that debian changelog issue
[04:27] <wxl> why are there two 1.6.1-1ubuntu2s???
[04:27] <tsimonq2> ?
[04:28] <tsimonq2> No there aren't...?
[04:28] <wxl> yeah there is
[04:28] <tsimonq2> nuh uuuh
[04:28] <wxl> the head of the context is 1.6.1-1ubuntu2
[04:29] <wxl> from clive
[04:29] <wxl> and THEN there's one from phil at the end of the diff
[04:29] <wxl> only difference is clive's is unreleased
[04:29] <tsimonq2> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[04:29] <tsimonq2> Where are you seeing this?!?
[04:29] <wxl> WRONG
[04:30] <wxl> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_unstable
[04:30] <tsimonq2> WRONG
[04:30] <tsimonq2> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[04:30] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:30] <wxl> it's not merging into yakkety dear
[04:30] <wxl> there's one merge proposal that dealt with yakkety and one with zesty
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[04:31] <tsimonq2> ZOMG HEY YOU
[04:32] <tsimonq2> WROOOOOONG
[04:32] <tsimonq2> https://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/+merge/312616
[04:32] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:32] <tsimonq2> Merge markers!
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[04:36] <wxl> ah hah!
[04:36] <wxl> https://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konversation/+merge/312618
[04:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: You don't need a new PR every time!
[04:36] <wxl> i needed to change the branch name anyways
[04:37] <tsimonq2> BOI
[04:37] <tsimonq2> WRAP
[04:37] <tsimonq2> AND
[04:37] <tsimonq2> SORT
[04:37] <wxl> no
[04:37] <wxl> i don't wanna
[04:37] <tsimonq2> Then I won't merge :P
[04:37] <tsimonq2> Or I'll give up and do it anyways
[04:38] <wxl> done
[04:38] <tsimonq2> You push?
[04:39] <wxl> ugh
[04:39]  * wxl facepalms
[04:39] <wxl> i pushed to kubuntu-packaging
[04:39] <wxl> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:39] <wxl> HELP ME
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[04:39] <wxl> well at least my MP is fixed
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[04:40] <tsimonq2> wxl: YOU HAVE PUSH ACCESS?!?!?!?!?!?
[04:40] <wxl> i didn't think i did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:40] <tsimonq2> Through Kubuntu Members!!!!!!!!
[04:41] <wxl> that gives me PUSH ACCESS??!?!?!??!?!?!
[04:41] <tsimonq2> YES!!!!!!!!!!
[04:41] <wxl> ughhhhhh
[04:41] <wxl> ok let's think about this
[04:41] <tsimonq2> Looks fine anyways
[04:41] <tsimonq2> SO you got LUCKY DUDE
[04:41] <wxl> it does?
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[04:42] <tsimonq2> Mmhm
[04:42] <wxl> you might want to at least give that an ok
[04:43] <wxl> call blame where blame is due
[04:43] <wxl> that's what you get for making me wrap and sort
[04:43]  * wxl slaps tsimonq2 
[04:43] <tsimonq2> I'm telling you. I'm looking at the diff and You Did Good. :)
[04:43] <wxl> well still, i think it's worth mentioning in the review that you gave it your blessing and would have merged it if i hadn't accidentially done it myself XD
[04:44] <tsimonq2> Done
[04:45] <wxl> acheronuk said to work on kdialog but i'm not seeing the issue?
[04:45]  * tsimonq2 slaps wxl with a large trout
[04:45] <tsimonq2> GET NINJAS AND LEGALLY GET PUSH ACCESS!!!!!!!
[04:45] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:45] <tsimonq2> Oh? Link?
[04:45] <wxl> well no one trusts me enough yet
[04:45] <wxl> which i guess is reasonable
[04:45] <wxl> no link. it was discussed earlier
[04:46] <tsimonq2> I trust you. ;)
[04:46] <wxl> *enough* being the word
[04:46] <tsimonq2> Where? What needs fixing
[04:46] <tsimonq2> ?
[04:46] <wxl> i dunno
[04:47] <wxl> i was on BBB with everyone and clive said something i didn't hear and then acheronuk mentioned it in irc
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[04:48] <wxl> shoot he probably said it in freaking -council
[04:48] <wxl> uggggggggggggh
[04:48] <wxl> we need to get that logged
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[04:48] <wxl> btw i love kdialog!!!!!!
[04:48] <tsimonq2> OH I KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT
[04:48] <wxl> NO WAY
[04:48] <valorie> we do need to get that logged
[04:48] <tsimonq2> YES WAY
[04:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-distro-packagers
[04:49] <valorie> I asked the Council but didn't follow up
[04:49] <tsimonq2> wxl: Subscribe and read the damn logs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:49] <tsimonq2> wxl: This: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-distro-packagers/2016-October/000225.html
[04:49] <wxl> !language | tsimonq2 
[04:50] <tsimonq2> bah
[04:50] <tsimonq2> fineee
[04:50]  * wxl wins again
[04:50] <tsimonq2> oh no no no
[04:50] <wxl> oooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOHHOooOOOooooooooooOOOOOooooooOOOOOoooOOOOOoooo this is good
[04:50] <tsimonq2> I pulled the flag on you earlier dude!
[04:50] <wxl> yeah but i did it last
[04:50] <wxl> brb a sec
[04:51] <tsimonq2> !language | wxl 
[04:51] <tsimonq2> No I did :P
[04:51] <valorie> are you like, FIVE?
[04:51] <valorie> lol
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[04:51] <tsimonq2> Add a one to the beginning of the numberical representation and subtract one from that... :P
[04:51] <tsimonq2> *numerical
[04:52] <valorie> heh
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[05:00] <wxl> k back now
[05:00] <wxl> !language | tsimonq2 (no tag backs)
[05:00]  * wxl is actually 3
[05:00] <tsimonq2> lol
[05:01] <valorie> rofl
[05:03] <wxl> my problem with this email is it's not clear what we want to do
[05:04] <tsimonq2> wxl: Another rtfm moment - kubuntu-devel!!!
[05:04] <valorie> we should decide one way or the other
[05:04] <wxl> wait we actually discussed this? i don't remember seeing it
[05:05] <wxl> maybe before my time
[05:05] <valorie> no, one more thing that everyone ignored
[05:05] <valorie> unfortunately
[05:05] <wxl> probably too busy fighting amongst ourselves :/
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[05:06] <valorie> well, other stuff happening, I'll say that
[05:07] <wxl> ok don't rtfm me tsimonq2 did you SEE this actually discussed on there? i am not immediately finding antyhing
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[05:07] <tsimonq2> !language | wxl (you got this coming)
[05:07] <tsimonq2> :P
[05:07] <wxl> i just repeated yours, so that's on you
[05:07] <wxl> sorry you lose again
[05:08] <tsimonq2> :P
[05:09] <tsimonq2> wxl: Then bring it up on the ML!!!
[05:09] <wxl> ok
[05:10] <wxl> all fun aside, HAVE you seen anything?
[05:10] <tsimonq2> No, except for a response from yofel
[05:10] <wxl> show me please
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[05:10] <tsimonq2> I thought it was on kubuntu-devel?
[05:10] <wxl> wget -O - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-October.txt.gz | zcat - → gzip: stdin: not in gzip format????!!!!!!
[05:11] <wxl> acheronuk said i should fix it here. that's all i know
[05:12] <tsimonq2> Hmm idk
[05:12] <wxl> ok now i got the hang of this
[05:13] <wxl> nope
[05:13] <wxl> btw
[05:13] <wxl> wget -O - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-{October,November,December}.txt.gz | zcat | grep kdialog
[05:13]  * wxl flexes his bash muscles
[05:17] <wxl> how do i get my kubuntu.org email going on?
[05:17] <valorie> wxl: is it not working?
[05:17] <wxl> i dunno
[05:17] <wxl> didn't try
[05:17] <wxl> does it "just work?"
[05:18] <valorie> it should, after the first day or two
[05:18] <wxl> email me?
[05:18] <valorie> however, you can't use it as your LP address
[05:18] <valorie> because that sets up an endless loop
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[05:20] <valorie> sent
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[06:50] <wxl> acheronuk: clivejo: when you return remind me what exactly you wanted me to do with kdialog
[07:00] <valorie> wxl: did you get my email?
[07:01] <valorie> oh duh, I could check my mail!
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[07:05] <wxl> valorie: yeah i replied twice :)
[07:06] <wxl> the 2nd one is more interesting
[07:06] <wxl> and on that note
[07:06] <wxl> time for z's
[07:07] <valorie> sweet dreams
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[07:37] <acheronuk> wxl: kdiagram http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdiagram/23/
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[09:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[09:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[09:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[09:42] <soee> ahoneybun: http://news.softpedia.com/news/shadow-tactics-blades-of-the-shogun-hardcore-tactical-stealth-game-out-on-linux-510771.shtml
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[09:58] <jimarvan> good morning guys
[09:59] <jimarvan> how was the podcast yesterday? Sorry I could not attend have karate on Tuesday at that time :/
[10:21] <clivejo> wxl: thats the challenge, find out what is wrong with it and then fix it!
[10:24] <clivejo> valorie: sorry about not getting back to you last night, I got disconnected and hadnt the energy to fix it and get back online
[10:31] <clivejo> I seriously dunno why I even bother
[11:03] <jimarvan> :/
[12:57] <ahoneybun> mm umbrello is having issues with building one file.
[12:58] <ahoneybun> and kdiagram is mising a cmake but not like I've seen
[13:30] <BluesKaj-pi> hiyas all
[13:30] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: umbrello seems to be a issue with the KDE source code
[13:33] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: kdiagram is not a cmake issue in itself. dh_install in the build log is telling you something else about those
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 Alright, I'll look at it later in between some other work
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[14:35] <acheronuk> hi clive :)
[14:39]  * clivejo waves at acheronuk
[14:40] <clivejo> looks like RAFV wont be getting installed today!
[14:41] <acheronuk> RAFV?
[14:41] <clivejo> FFS runs to see what the pup is dragging across the street
[14:41] <acheronuk> LOL!
[14:42] <clivejo> silage cover!
[14:42] <clivejo> he goes crazy when it rains
[14:43] <wxl> steve hillage cover? he's a talented dog
[14:43] <clivejo> black plastic, very smelly and probably 3 times his weight
[14:44] <clivejo> yanking it across the street, no doubt will end up in my front garden
[14:45] <wxl> this is my first time fixing something outside of zesty
[14:45] <clivejo> fixing what?
[14:46] <wxl> with kdiagram, the problem is in yakkety_unstable for which there is no branch
[14:46] <clivejo> I think you are confused
[14:46] <wxl> i think i am too
[14:46] <clivejo> kubuntu_unstable
[14:46] <wxl> howver, being confused…
[14:46] <acheronuk> KCI uses that unstable branch for all builds
[14:46] <wxl> ok
[14:46] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdiagram/
[14:47] <wxl> that's what i guessed but needed to be sure
[14:47] <clivejo> you can see 3 separate builds, for XX, YY and ZZ
[14:47] <clivejo> all are red, so are failing
[14:48] <wxl> yep grok it
[14:48] <acheronuk> and most of the time if you do something in a _archive branch, you don't need to merge to unstable, as KCI does an auto-merge for you
[14:49] <clivejo> but dont fix this in archive
[14:49] <clivejo> this is a fix for unstable branch only
[14:49] <acheronuk> no, was just saying
[14:49]  * clivejo looks for his trout
[14:50] <acheronuk> as wxl mentioned having to merge konversion to unstable, last night I think
[14:51] <wxl> it was more that i was in my own konversation and needed to merge in the changes from the one in kubuntu-packaging
[14:51] <wxl> that was fun
[14:52] <acheronuk> clivejo: did you see that clem from mint is going to help test the backports?
[14:53] <clivejo> nope
[14:53] <acheronuk> clivejo: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/12/07/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t02:04
[14:54] <clivejo> any feedback?
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[14:54] <wxl> much angry. no debian/watch in kdiagram
[14:55] <acheronuk> hello calligra. welcome to KCI :P
[14:55] <clivejo> cause its on KCI it will be grabbing master git
[14:56] <clivejo> acheronuk: dont you dare be nice to it!
[14:56] <wxl> clivejo: well, e.g. konversation has one
[14:57] <clivejo> wxl: yes, and it should have one. But for you to fix it, the watch file wont be of use
[14:57] <wxl> it'll be use for get-kci-tarball
[14:58] <clivejo> I tend to grab it manually, but sure if thats useful, use it :)
[14:58] <clivejo> acheronuk: calligra needs porting to KF5
[14:59] <acheronuk> that reminds me, that should do a shallow clone really. did get-kci-tarball on breeze earlier, and it wanted to DL 200+ MB
[14:59] <yofel> it's also used by our uscan fallbacks, so there should always be a watch file as long as there is a public URL
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[15:01] <wxl> that would be my thinking, yofel 
[15:01] <acheronuk> clivejo: yeah, sounds fun
[15:01] <wxl> trivial to fix
[15:01] <yofel> right, thanks
[15:02] <wxl> btw thanks again for the container guys. this is a huge help
[15:02] <clivejo> wxl: http://download.kde.org/stable/kdiagram/
[15:03] <clivejo> but what Im trying to point out is that the packaging will work for that release
[15:04] <clivejo> the failure is due to a recent change in the upstream source code
[15:04] <wxl> oh yeah i see that :)
[15:04] <clivejo> therefore if you use the 2.6 source code you wont see the missing files issue
[15:05] <clivejo> but yes, definitely update the watch file while you are working on it 
[15:08] <wxl> clivejo: so what's your preferred methodology for grabbing the unstable tarball?
[15:08] <clivejo> whatever works :P
[15:10] <clivejo> dget from unstable PPA would probably be what Id do
[15:11] <acheronuk> though that assumes there are no code changes since KCI made that tarball
[15:13] <clivejo> indeed
[15:13] <clivejo> more than one way to skin a spud
[15:19] <wxl> ok i've never used dget on kci
[15:19] <wxl> where's the .dsc?
[15:21]  * wxl sighs
[15:22]  * genii feeds wxl an extra-large coffee, STAT
[15:23] <clivejo> wxl: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=kdiagram&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[15:23] <wxl> AH
[15:25] <acheronuk> also, if there is some problem with the source, so KCI can't build it (patch error etc), then the tarball from the ppa may not do you any good
[15:27] <clivejo> indeed
[15:27] <clivejo> like calligra!
[15:27]  * clivejo kicks patches
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[15:56] <clivejo> acheronuk: kdelibs4support seems to be failing
[15:59] <acheronuk> clivejo: shows all currently building here
[16:00] <clivejo> Rebuild candidates: 
[16:00] <clivejo>  Total: 478
[16:00] <clivejo>  Skipped: 464
[16:00] <clivejo>  Valid: 14
[16:00] <clivejo>  Actually rebuilt: 14
[16:01] <clivejo> says Failed to Build via the script
[16:01] <clivejo> but see how this run goes
[16:02] <acheronuk> occasionally LP burps and falsely reports a dep wait as a failure
[16:02] <acheronuk> but we shall see
[16:02] <clivejo> maybe, but these are the last two by the looks of it
[16:03] <clivejo> krunner and kdelibs4support
[16:03] <clivejo> you wanna hit the plasma button?
[16:04]  * acheronuk goes looking for the button
[16:04] <clivejo> big red button
[16:06] <acheronuk> Fire
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[16:08] <wxl> well fixed that.. and now we have symbols changes boooooo
[16:11] <acheronuk> clivejo: done. pushing changes and tags to git
[16:11] <clivejo> breeze-grub, breeze-grub, kactivitymanagerd, plasma-integration all reject as they arent on upload list :(
[16:12] <clivejo> more for our list of doom
[16:12] <clivejo> cyphermox: can you help us will getting these added?
[16:12] <clivejo> with
[16:13] <acheronuk> breeze-grub, breeze-grub?
[16:13] <clivejo> sorry, breeze-plymouth
[16:14] <acheronuk> that's it. was just checking
[16:14] <wxl> ok time for coffee
[16:14]  * genii 's ears perk up
[16:15] <wxl> genii: no, like i'm actually going for coffee XD
[16:15] <wxl> like real coffee
[16:15] <genii> :D
[16:17] <clivejo> ok, just krunner left and poked it on
[16:21] <acheronuk> maybe shadeslayer would agree to uploading the stragglers in the meantime?
[16:22] <clivejo> Id like to get them added
[16:22] <clivejo> I dont understand what the problem is
[16:23] <acheronuk> clivejo: I don't disagree, but it's not happening at the moment
[16:24] <clivejo> really frustrating when there are people wanting to contribute, but being blocked from doing so
[16:25] <clivejo> can I unpaue KCI?
[16:25] <acheronuk> go ahead
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[16:31] <yofel> can I send a mail that KCI will be down for some time on... saturday 14:00 UTC? or rather sunday?
[16:31] <yofel> for the move
[16:32] <clivejo> both
[16:32] <acheronuk> fine with me
[16:32] <yofel> or a test move if we don't finish, but that shouldn't take too long
[16:32] <yofel> hm... ok, two timeslots doesn't hurt
[16:33] <acheronuk> I will be busy at that time on the Sunday, but doesn't matter
[16:33] <clivejo> take the entire weekend to be safe
[16:33] <cyphermox> clivejo: what are those breeze-{grub,plymouth} things? the names look unusual
[16:33] <clivejo> its scheduled to take the time off anyways
[16:33] <clivejo> they are like themes
[16:33] <clivejo> breeze is the plasma look
[16:34] <acheronuk> cyphermox: plasma now has it's own grub and plymouth themes
[16:34] <acheronuk> KDE are trying to get an integrated look and feel from boot to login to desktop
[16:35] <genii> Hm
[16:35] <clivejo> quite pretty actually :)
[16:35] <genii> Now if just something could be done with sddm
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[16:38] <clivejo> cyphermox: shadeslayer has uploaded them in the past - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/breeze-grub
[16:38] <clivejo> but I cant due to not being MOTU and not on our package list
[16:39] <clivejo> cyphermox: we have a trello card for packages we need added - https://trello.com/c/NsNY1KVq
[16:40] <clivejo> most are urgency needed for this cycle, some are wishlist
[16:40]  * clivejo stares at valorie
[16:41] <clivejo> you and your comic viewer!
[16:42] <yofel> did someone update the seed yet?
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[16:46] <acheronuk> have to be a dev to do that?
[16:46] <acheronuk> clivejo: ??
[16:46] <clivejo> ?
[16:47] <yofel> yes, but you could make a merge request
[16:47] <acheronuk> if I was sure what I was doing with it, I might
[16:48] <yofel> or you wait until I fix my server at home where I have my env for that set up. It's sitting on my desk with a broken fan
[16:51] <acheronuk> I am trying to find where you explained how to do it :/
[16:51] <acheronuk> I shall have to look later
[16:51] <acheronuk> or if clivejo knows how?
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[16:57] <cyphermox> clivejo: ack, but my concern is that the names maybe aren't like what themes are typically named for these things, but I haven't checked
[17:01] <cyphermox> (I haven't checked, only operating from memory)
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[17:04] <cyphermox> ah, I see, grub-theme-breeze is the binary, breeze-grub is the source
[17:05] <acheronuk> cyphermox: debian's https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/breeze-plymouth.git/tree/debian/control
[17:05] <acheronuk> for example
[17:06] <cyphermox> acheronuk: right, that's not a problem
[17:08] <acheronuk> the source names match the KDE git repo names AFAIK
[17:12] <clivejo> sorry phone call
[17:13] <clivejo> cyphermox: is there any way to resolve the concern you or the DWG may have so that we can get these packages uploaded?
[17:16]  * clivejo has to go AFK again
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:21] <cyphermox> clivejo: there's nothing to fix AFAIK
[17:21] <cyphermox> clivejo: I'll get that sorted tonight if possible, and if I don't have the right access I'll ask the right person. Otherwise expect another email from me if there's an issue
[17:29] <wxl> ok if i have symbols missing what do i need to do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23594270/
[17:30] <wxl> maybe add a depends, hm?
[17:30] <wxl> the symbols missing is a bit strange too as it seems to be a version mismatch and i'd expect that for ALL the symbols
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[17:33] <cyphermox> wxl: means you need to review the debian/*.symbols files in that package, see what needs to be added, if it makes sense, following that build result
[17:33] <cyphermox> and on that, I'm off for a few hours
[17:33] <wxl> yes i got that much :/
[17:34] <acheronuk> wxl: https://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html
[17:34] <wxl> oooh that looks useful
[17:34] <wxl> thx acheronuk 
[17:34] <wxl> i'll come back if i have more confusion
[17:35]  * acheronuk still gets confusion reading some of that :P
[17:35] <wxl> let me suffer a bit then :)
[17:38] <wxl> ok so let me make sure i'm getting this right
[17:38] <wxl> to deal with missing:
[17:38] <wxl> example:
[17:38] <wxl> +#MISSING: 2.6.0-1ubuntu1# _ZTVN6KChart10BarDiagram14BarDiagramTypeE@Base 2.6.0  
[17:39] <wxl> resolve with: 
[17:39] <wxl> c++filt _ZTVN6KChart10BarDiagram14BarDiagramTypeE
[17:39] <wxl> and check the source to see if the result is actually being used
[17:39] <wxl> i.e.
[17:40] <wxl> vtable for KChart::BarDiagram::BarDiagramType
[17:40] <wxl> right?
[17:40] <wxl> and if not then remove from *.symbols
[17:52] <acheronuk> you would use symbolshelper to patch the symbols file using your buildlogs, then deal with any symbols left as MISSING
[17:52] <acheronuk> you can remove them if they are private or the cases given as examples in that doc
[17:52] <wxl> so adding to rules is just temporary?
[17:53] <acheronuk> adding what to rules?
[17:53] <wxl> symbolshelper
[17:54] <acheronuk> pkg-kde-tools is already a build dep, so no need
[17:54] <wxl> ah k
[17:56] <wxl> so in my case, i'm updating to 2.6.0-1ubuntu1
[17:57] <acheronuk> the symbols? no
[17:58] <wxl> well i'm supposed to pkgkde-symbolshelper patch -p libfoo1 -v 1.8 < buildlog
[17:59] <wxl> so -v needs to be something, no?
[18:00] <wxl> i'm clearly not creating a symbols file so that section's out
[18:00] <wxl> and we're not yet talking about missing versions, so that's out
[18:00] <wxl> that leaves updating version numbers
[18:01] <acheronuk> -v 2.6.0+git20161207
[18:01] <wxl> ah k
[18:02] <acheronuk> where that trailing number it the date the KCI build your are using the logs to patch from gave the build
[18:02] <wxl> got it
[18:03] <wxl> and since this is a source package, i should use batchpatch, no?
[18:03] <wxl> or can i grab the full diff from the buildlogs and just feed it kdiagram?
[18:04] <acheronuk> it has more than one symbols file, so batchpatch yes.
[18:04] <acheronuk> actually wouldn't matter if it only had 1, batchpatch would still work
[18:05] <wxl> do i need to separate the diffs? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23594499/
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[18:07] <acheronuk> no, you just feed it the log file. it will parse it and find the diff section
[18:07] <wxl> okie dokie
[18:08] <wxl> thx for your patience rik
[18:09] <wxl> ok one last thing
[18:10] <wxl> version number on ~k-ci is 2.6.0+p17.04+git20161207.0137-0 but you're saying i don't need the ubuntu version or the time?
[18:12] <acheronuk> nope. some people add it, but really all you are wanting is the date the build was done and the new symbols were found.
[18:13] <wxl> ok that worked
[18:13] <wxl> still some missing bits including that one i mentioned above
[18:14] <acheronuk> well, yes. the patching adds new symbols and does some magic on some of the missing, but some may remain.
[18:14] <acheronuk> you then have to deal with those manually
[18:14] <wxl> k lemme track these down then
[18:15]  * wxl loves tmux show-buffer
[18:15] <wxl> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23594530/
[18:19] <acheronuk> I may be corrected, biut in this case I don't think it matters if any have gone missing due to upstream code changes, as binaries for this package have not yet been released to debian or ubuntu
[18:19] <acheronuk> i.e. thet is no current BC to break
[18:19] <acheronuk> *there is
[18:20] <acheronuk> but you can have a look on the basis of, if this was something released, would those symbols going AWOL be ok?
[18:24]  * acheronuk goes looking for food
[18:40] <wxl> yikes this is going to take some doing
[18:42] <wxl> just looking for BarDiagramType there's 33 matches
[18:42] <wxl> adding BarDiagram:: it limits it down to 14 siiigh
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[19:26] <wxl> !eol
[19:27] <IrcsomeBot1> CliffordTheBigRedDoggie was added by: ahoneybun
[20:15] <clivejo> sgclark: why are you flooding excessively?
[20:17] <sgclark> clivejo: I don't know?
[20:18] <clivejo> sgclark (scarlettcl@ubuntu/member/sgclark) has quit (Excess Flood)
[20:18] <clivejo> you quit like that a lot
[20:19] <sgclark> I am aware. and my net is crappy. perhaps I am getting attacked. dunno.
[20:20] <clivejo> awww, we should get together and setup the crappy internet support group
[20:20] <sgclark> lol
[20:20]  * wxl pets his fiber connection
[20:20]  * sgclark is jealous
[20:21] <clivejo> not fair!
[20:21]  * sgclark agrees
[20:21] <wxl> technically i am too
[20:21] <wxl> it's not *MINE*, but works
[20:21] <sgclark> not available here even if I wanted
[20:21] <wxl> i'm shocked it was here
[20:22] <wxl> also, HAI sgclark ! :)
[20:22] <sgclark> I am not convinced my firewall is up to par. Need to improve that when I get back into the city
[20:22] <sgclark> hi wxl :)
[20:22] <wxl> how you been?
[20:23] <sgclark> nice to see commits comming in from yah
[20:23]  * wxl bows humbly
[20:23] <sgclark> busy with work..
[20:23] <wxl> well, i kind of know the feeling.
[20:23] <wxl> we lost a couple people here and got some new ones
[20:23] <sgclark> yeah that happens :(
[20:24] <sgclark> I miss everyone
[20:24] <sgclark> but I am happy with my work
[20:24] <wxl> well that's very good!!!
[20:24] <sgclark> :)
[20:24] <wxl> where ARE you technically now?
[20:25] <sgclark> what do you mean? I work for Blue Systems with many hats. Still do packaging for Neon and sorted other things
[20:25] <wxl> i mean like physically :)
[20:26] <sgclark> Payson Az beats Phoenix, but still not my beloved Oregon :(
[20:26] <wxl> aww
[20:26] <wxl> well that is a neat place in some ways, i'm sure
[20:26] <sgclark> I will get back there someday!
[20:26] <wxl> i've really never been to the southwest
[20:27] <sgclark> yeah it is in the Mountains sorta by Flagstaff, so it is pretty and nice weather
[20:27] <wxl> monsoons will be an i nteresting change of pace :)
[20:29] <wxl> in any case, i hope you're wearing all the hats you want to wear!
[20:29] <wxl> my poor friend, a dev advocate and a great developer in his own right, is stuck doing like dumb webdev stuff for his work because of all the people they're missing
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 would someone ping my IRC nick please
[20:30] <mamarley> clivejo: 
 nothing !
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[20:31] <IrcsomeBot1> * CliffordTheBigRedDoggie kicks stupid internet
[20:33] <clivejo> looks like my bouncer died too
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 Hey wxl! You had two devs here who could vote on you being ninja! :O
[21:03] <wxl> tsimonq2: yes but i don't think that's the issue
 Oh?
[21:04] <wxl> tsimonq2: again, the issue isn't trust but enough trust. i need to prove myself. which is fine. no need to be impatient
 OK fair enough
 I forgotz
[21:04] <ahoneybun> *forgot
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/UUtJqUJx/file_1324.mp4
[21:05] <wxl> tsimonq2: that konversation mess was a step in the right direction, even if i accidentially pushed O_O
[21:05] <wxl> tsimonq2: and i'm close on kdiagram (includes symbol issues)
 Whatchu do?
[21:05] <wxl> tsimonq2: with kdiagram?
[21:05] <clivejo> wxl: It's not trust my my part, more experience.  Id like to see you submit more requests for review 
[21:06] <wxl> clivejo: well trust comes with experience :)
[21:06] <clivejo> indeed it does
 clivejo: You remember how I became a ninja? :D
[21:06] <ahoneybun> hey clivejo
[21:06] <clivejo> being annoying?
 You guys were sick of my 30 PRs. :P
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[21:06] <wxl> i'm good. i'll take my time and do it right.
 Yeah that XD
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[21:07] <wxl> i'm not sure *I* want to have that reputation
[21:07] <wxl> i'd like to ask that same question of KDs and have them say "you earned it"
 :P
 But I did earn it, did I not?
[21:08]  * wxl drops a pin
[21:08]  * wxl listens
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[22:00] <clivejo> acheronuk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23595449/
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[22:06] <valorie> clivejo: why were you glaring at me about peruse?
[22:07] <clivejo> its very nawty
[22:07] <valorie> KDE produces it, so we should Give it To the People, correct?
[22:07] <valorie> oh, my comics are Doctor Who!
[22:07] <valorie> YOU are the one with the x-rated comics
[22:07] <valorie> lol
[22:07] <clivejo> I downloaded one at random!
[22:07] <clivejo> to test it
[22:08] <clivejo> and almost fell off my chair
[22:08] <ahoneybun> are you using torrents/limewire again?
[22:08]  * wxl wonders what format comixology comics are in
[22:10] <wxl> cbz is available
[22:10] <wxl> not all publishers provide it tho
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[22:11] <valorie> I got mine from Humble Bundle, and paid my way
[22:11] <wxl> IDW, Image, Fantagraphics, Oni. i'm pretty much good!
[22:12] <wxl> i'm gonna have to try this out
[22:12] <wxl> is peruse available in a trusty ppa at all?
[22:12] <valorie> "almost fell off my chair" -- tmi, clivejo
[22:12] <valorie> lol
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[22:15] <wxl> aww doesn't work on unlimited purchases
[22:16] <wxl> well, borrows
[22:17] <wxl> no peruse found :(
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[22:20] <clivejo> wxl: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_peruse/
[22:20] <wxl> yes yes
[22:20] <clivejo> it needs some new packages though
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[22:25] <wxl> is libabcf new?
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[22:29] <acheronuk> clivejo: pass on those errors. santa also doesn't seem to have been on IRC recently to query
[22:30] <acheronuk> The following packages will be upgraded:
[22:30] <acheronuk>    kde-config-sddm (4:5.8.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu17.04~ppa1 => 4:5.8.4-0ubuntu1)
[22:30] <acheronuk>    ksshaskpass (4:5.8.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu17.04~ppa1 => 4:5.8.4-0ubuntu1)
[22:30] <acheronuk>    kwrited (4:5.8.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu17.04~ppa1 => 4:5.8.4-0ubuntu1)
[22:30] <acheronuk>    systemsettings (4:5.8.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu17.04~ppa1 => 4:5.8.4-0ubuntu1)
[22:30] <acheronuk> something at least ^^^
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[23:03] <valorie> !info libabcf
[23:03] <valorie> I've never heard of that one
[23:35] <acheronuk> hi santa_ :)
[23:36] <acheronuk> this commit broke the retry script https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/commit/?id=f1a2a07ed98bf9011eed406a782c87267c387c06
[23:37] <acheronuk> it now mostly just just seems to do nothing at the end as all candidates are shown as an unsatisfied dep wait, even it the dep is built and available
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[23:45] <santa_> acheronuk: but everything is built now on zesty, have you used the version in the fallback branch?
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[23:46] <acheronuk> santa_: plasma is not built yet
[23:47] <acheronuk> santa_: have been using an earlier version, not the fallback exactly
[23:50] <santa_> acheronuk: ok, can you give me the hash of the commit you are using? we can rework this when staging frameworks 5.29
[23:55] <acheronuk> santa_: we were using cd135e12c908eea96757906da652c7f298e68093
[23:56] <acheronuk> but that started failing on plasma with http://paste.ubuntu.com/23595449/
[23:57] <acheronuk> santa_: so in the end just used the master with a hacky http://paste.ubuntu.com/23595639/
[23:57] <acheronuk> santa_: but yes, coulda used the fallback in hindsight
[23:58] <santa_> acheronuk: ok, no prob, lets just get plasma done and as I said we will rework this for fw 5.29 staging
[23:59] <acheronuk> and for some reason, even with that hack, it was missing some failed to builds, which where due to dodgy builders