[02:24] <cactusdude> is ubuntu touch alive?
[02:27] <duflu> cactusdude: Yes, but most of the developers are focusing on the desktop side for a while
[02:27] <cactusdude> why is that? no love for mobile?
[02:27] <duflu> It's all the same code though, for touch and desktop.
[02:28] <duflu> Because we are a small number of developers really. We have mobile released but not yet the new desktop released
[02:28] <duflu> Get everything out there, and iterate
[02:29] <duflu> Mobile continues to improve at the same time, as desktop gets touch features
[02:30] <duflu> Also OTA-14 for Ubuntu Touch is due this month still... I think
[02:30] <duflu> Don't quote me on that. The OTA-14 page shows mid-November as the date still
[02:32] <duflu> But I spoke to the person in charge of releasing OTA-14 yesterday. It's certainly coming
[02:36] <cactusdude> That is cool. Hopefully you/they can get the word out there and recruit more developers!
[03:04] <dobey> cactusdude: if you want more ubuntu phones, tell your telco and/or phone manufacturer
[03:05] <dobey> we don't make the hardware over here, just the software. porting to new devices also is a lot of work. it's not trivial, because every phone is different.
[03:06] <dobey> but yes, we all want to see more devices with ubuntu on them
[05:01] <HendriXXX> Does anyone have statistics, how many active UT- users there are?
[11:15] <Acou_Bass> phased updates in progress? woo! \o/
[12:07] <Maik_> Is it possible to install Ubuntu touch on a Tablett hat currently runs windows 10 home x32?
[12:08] <Maik_> *that
[12:27] <Maik_> Is it possible to install Ubuntu touch on a Tablett that currently runs windows 10 home x32?
[12:28] <OerHeks> Maik_, if there is a port for it, yes. ( but i doubt you have the BQ m10 ) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[12:37] <Maik_> OerHeks, thanks, i ll try the desktop version of Ubuntu then, may that ll work.
[12:38] <OerHeks> Maik_, carefull, if that tablet got 32 bit UEFI, you need to do some stuff to make uefi work
[12:42] <matv1> hi guys I am getting an update for the uWriter app by costales that fails on a DBusError. it looks like the version try tries to install is the same as the one already installed: 0.22
[12:43] <matv1> has anyone else seen this happen?
[12:43] <matv1> is there some corrupt cashing that I can cler maybe?
[12:43] <matv1> clear
[12:46] <matv1> on the other hand, I am getting this same error on both my devices. So that sounds like the download itself is corrupt..
[12:54] <Maik_> Anyway, thanks for the help OerHeks, bye
[13:32] <NeoTheThird[m]> There's currently no free A-GPS location service for Ubuntu Touch. Anyone here, who has experience with Mozilla Location Service? https://www.bountysource.com/issues/39808752-support-for-mozilla-location-service-a-gps
[15:54] <brunch875> guys I want to reinstall utouch but I can't find the krillin recovery. If anyone has a link laying around...
[15:55] <pmcg1> brunch875, on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[15:55] <brunch875> ooh thanks!
[15:59] <Mister_Q> brunch875 https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool
[16:01] <brunch875> Android sailfish... nice... I feel really tempted to try those
[16:05] <brunch875> Also, I wanted to mention that yesterday I fixed some scope loading issues by deleting ~/.cache, which in turn also deleted the libertine containers... Going to wipe now and see if it unlocks magical superpowers
[16:43] <matv1> hi all, earlier today I reported this issue to uWriter app but Costales believes its a system issue. Not his app. Could someone assist me in digging a little deeper?
[16:43] <matv1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1648070
[16:44] <brunch875> on a related note, I just reflashed rc-proposed and I can't seem to be able to install my old apps
[16:45] <matv1> oh irc tells me now that its a duplicate of another bug
[16:45] <Mister_Q> brunch875 known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1646758
[16:45]  * matv1 reads up on the dupe
[16:45] <brunch875> ouch, perhaps it wasn't the ideal moment to reflash
[16:45] <brunch875> I depend on the authenticator app
[16:53] <matv1> ah it seems a fix is already in the next proposed. All good then
[16:56] <matv1> thanks pmcg1 :) will any manual cleanup be required of already failed updates or will all that sort itself out?
[16:57] <pmcg1> matv1, good question, I hope the latter, Elleo could tell us
[17:02] <Elleo> pmcg1, matv1: all updates should start working correctly after it lands, even ones that had previously failed
[17:02] <pmcg1> right answer!
[17:03] <matv1> Elleo Great thank you
[17:03] <Elleo> no problem :)
[18:25] <HendriXXX_> Can I change app scope (home screen) wallpaper. Where are wallpapers located?
[18:35] <dobey> HendriXXX_: no, you cannot. changing the background only affects the lock screen (and background in the open windows overview in later versions)
[18:37] <HendriXXX_> Ok. Thanks!
[18:52] <JanC> are the OTA-14 download-servers overloaded or something?
[18:52] <dobey> it is staged rollout
[18:53] <dobey> N devices get it first, then another random N, and so on, until all devices get it
[18:53] <JanC> for some reason the download doesn't start for me
[18:53] <dobey> you see the update and it's just not downloading?
[18:55] <JanC> yeah, when I press the download button it doesn't start; trying to figure out where the problem is
[18:57] <dobey> ok, not sure why that would be
[19:00] <JanC> internet seems to work fine in the browser, so not a local network/wifi issue I think
[19:00] <JanC> I guess I'll try later again
[19:04] <dobey> yeah, i'd say wait a little while, and if it's still being a problem, send a mail to the list
[20:24] <luxpir> hey - I can't access my Update settings... is there a lock file for that too?
[20:24] <luxpir> (had similar problem with Dekko and messages before)
[20:30] <luxpir> anyone in tonight?
[20:31] <dobey> what device? what do you mean exactly by "can't access" there?
[20:45] <WizardGed> hey ota-6 is stuck partially downloaded is there a way to delete/reset the software updates app
[20:51] <luxpir> dobey: aquaris e4.5 (sorry, exact model name escapes me... or is that it)
[20:52] <luxpir> dobey: I click into settings, then click Updates and no window appears and the settings window closes
[20:53] <luxpir> similar to when dekko wouldn't open, I could go into .config/[dekkodir] and delete the lock file
[20:53] <luxpir> but I can't find one for the updates
[20:58] <dobey> luxpir: do you have a file in /var/crash for ubuntu-system-settings ?
[20:58] <WizardGed> fixed mine
[20:59] <WizardGed> deleted my username-hasrun and myusername-has-run-and-location in .config and it reet it suprisingly
[21:05] <luxpir> not for system settings, dobey
[21:05] <luxpir> for usr_bin_webapp-container
[21:07] <luxpir> it's for imgur when I look in the file
[21:08] <luxpir> WizardGed: both of those are empty files in my system
[21:10] <dobey> luxpir: that's odd indeed. not sure. kenvandine, jgdx ^^ either of you can help if you're around?
[21:10] <WizardGed> luxpir i know if you delete both though it will cause the first time install screen to appear and the last screen in it updates to the newest ota
[21:11]  * kenvandine reads
[21:12] <kenvandine> luxpir, pastebin the log file, ~/.cache/upstart/application-legacy-ubuntu-system-settings.log
[21:50] <luxpir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23595409
[21:50] <luxpir> (apologies for delay)
[21:51] <luxpir> WizardGed: cool, that might be a fallback if I've missed kenvandine - thx for conjuring them, dobey
[22:01] <luxpir> any idea what the thumbnailer service is? there's a lockfile for it in cache
[22:11] <luxpir> WizardGed: Gah, deleting those both didn't update
[22:11] <pmcg1> luxpir, thumbnailer service does just that, makes thumbnails from images for the apps like camera, gallery, music, ...
[22:12] <luxpir> pmcg1: thanks - just can't quite find why my updates page isn't opening in sys settings
[22:12] <pmcg1> oh hmm
[22:14] <luxpir> pmcg1: it's messed up
[22:14] <pmcg1> yeah not sure why kenvandine ^
[22:15] <luxpir> I can't start the update via the terminal in any way can I?
[22:17] <pmcg1> luxpir, you can
[22:17] <pmcg1> using system-image-cli
[22:18] <pmcg1> luxpir, are you going from the main panel, could try accessing it from the about page, although no idea that would work
[22:19] <luxpir> about pg not opening either... will check sys img cli
[22:31] <dobey> luxpir: tried rebooting?
[22:31] <luxpir> did a restart...
[22:31] <luxpir> maybe could pwr off
[22:37] <luxpir> i did some chroot binding stuff a few weeks back w/out fully understanding what i was doing. could that be it?
[22:40] <dobey> possibly, though i couldn't say what you would have done that might have caused it
[22:46] <tylnesh> Hello! I've found a bug in the Music player. After I play a few songs (2-5), my bluetooth connection becomes flaky and keeps dropping, until I reboot the phone. I noticed this behaviour with a bluetooth headset and my Pebble.
[22:48] <tylnesh> Question is, should I run ubuntu-bug on the music app or bluetooth manager?
[23:11] <Gmiske> hey
[23:12] <Gmiske> have any body install ubuntu on robin pgone
[23:53] <Acou_Bass> does anyone else still have problems with the nearby aggregator scope? nothing at all seems to be able to get a location fix in the scope... happened on both ota-13 and the new 14 update