| daftykins | nah it's all the same junk really | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| diddledan | if a pixie is wasted, god gets quite irate | 00:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'd second daftykins apple avoidance... they seem to be making strange decisions these days | 00:01 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: headphone jacks are overrated | 00:01 |
| diddledan | as are the F* keys | 00:01 |
| daftykins | heh i saw rumours today that Samsung may remove headphone jacks on the next gen, too | 00:01 |
| diddledan | nobody uses F* keys | 00:01 |
| daftykins | i do | 00:01 |
| daftykins | all the time! | 00:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm sure i can insert my nokia headset in latest iphone with sufficent effort... | 00:02 |
| daftykins | only with 5 adapters ;) | 00:02 |
| diddledan | daftykins: then get your apps to program the magic bar instead :-p | 00:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah, new high end samsung will be jackless... | 00:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | dongle all the way | 00:02 |
| daftykins | diddledan: ah most people are receiving those with super glitchy graphics so no need :> | 00:02 |
| diddledan | lol | 00:02 |
| diddledan | yeah and poor battery fwig | 00:02 |
| daftykins | that's the one | 00:02 |
| diddledan | from-what-i-gather | 00:03 |
| daftykins | not to mention the bank balance dent for buying premum last years parts | 00:03 |
| daftykins | oops not prior to the invention of mothers, premium! | 00:03 |
| diddledan | lol | 00:03 |
| m0nkey_ | I don't use the jack, I use bluetooth, like I have done for the last 6 years | 00:04 |
| diddledan | I prefer Bert to Jack | 00:04 |
| daftykins | eww wireless technologies. | 00:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | i like memory cards as been able to eject a card and transfer stuff comes in so handy | 00:04 |
| m0nkey_ | So, cast your votes. G5, iThing or ZPlay. Go! | 00:05 |
| diddledan | daftykins: I'm gonna buy those overpriced ear dongles that apple are gonna hawk soon :-p | 00:05 |
| daftykins | i vote Motorola | 00:05 |
| diddledan | I vote sheep | 00:05 |
| daftykins | diddledan: what's wrong with you!? | 00:05 |
| diddledan | baa | 00:05 |
| daftykins | they last like 3-5 hours or some jazz :P | 00:05 |
| diddledan | 2 hours each! | 00:06 |
| diddledan | stereo is passe | 00:06 |
| daftykins | stereo isn't even about channel count from what i understand (: | 00:06 |
| m0nkey_ | Gotta admit, I'm leaning the Baa device | 00:06 |
| daftykins | XD | 00:07 |
| daftykins | reviewers say it's not baaa-aaaad | 00:07 |
| daftykins | 9 out of 10 sheperds agree | 00:07 |
| daftykins | ok i best sleep, my pun work here is done | 00:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | i got a cheap set of sony bt headphone in argos new catalog clearout. 10hours battery. | 00:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | but still a pain in the bum when the batteries ran flat one time... thankfully i carry backup wired headset in my bag | 00:20 |
| m0nkey_ | Duck.. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/173199 | 00:41 |
| m0nkey_ | "The Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition. When it decides which petitions should be debated, the Committee looks at whether the subject has recently been debated by the House of Commons." | 00:41 |
| diddledan | "and underwent unprecedented scrutiny" <-- they don't tell you that they ignored the response from that scrutiny which was 99% "WTF CHUCK?!" | 01:21 |
| m0nkey_ | Software Defined Radio.. it's awsome | 02:57 |
| m0nkey_ | http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ | 02:57 |
| m0nkey_ | Listening to morse code on 5595.4kHz upper side band | 02:58 |
| diddledan | are you decoding it | 03:02 |
| diddledan | ? | 03:02 |
| * ball wants to try WSPR on SDR | 03:07 | |
| m0nkey_ | I got the letters O S S and number 7 | 03:33 |
| m0nkey_ | My Morse code is rusty as hell | 03:33 |
| ball | _._. __._ | 05:04 |
| ball | 73 and good night. | 05:07 |
| === diddledan___ is now known as diddledan | ||
| mapps | hi | 07:08 |
| mapps | hola | 07:24 |
| knightwise | hey mapps | 08:05 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy International Civil Aviation Day! 😃 ✈ | 09:52 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:54 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQn8pab8Vc and just remember you bought this one on yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGnuMxFnc1k | 09:56 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, not https://youtu.be/vLBKOcUbHR0 ? | 10:08 |
| knightwise | Tried out Teamviewer on my raspberry pi yesterday. | 10:15 |
| knightwise | Worked like a breeze | 10:15 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: no I was thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw | 10:27 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: but I thought you'd like that too much :) | 10:28 |
| davmor2 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG0ZXD89Bq0 enjoy everyone | 11:44 |
| SuperMatt | I'm enjoying this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azBX_0QjLRM | 11:49 |
| davmor2 | SuperMatt: you have an odd sense of enjoyment | 11:55 |
| SuperMatt | I was worried that the political silly season would end after May was made PM, but it really does keep going on | 11:56 |
| davmor2 | SuperMatt: I'm sorry you think there is an end to the political silly season hahahahahaha | 12:23 |
| SuperEngineer | don't panoc folks, no ghost "me" today. phone now set up so it's "normal" me [as if there actually such a thing as a "normal" me!] | 12:36 |
| ball | hello directhex | 14:04 |
| ball | Does Ubuntu include USB 3.0 support? | 14:06 |
| davmor2 | ball: yes | 14:07 |
| ball | Thanks davmor2 | 14:07 |
| arsen | where does update-rc.d look for possible service candidates (vs 'service <name> <command>') ? | 15:09 |
| BigRedS | arsen: /etc/init.d historically... | 17:07 |
| BigRedS | I've not kept up with post-sysV inits though | 17:07 |
| diddledan | you should use systemctl enable/disable instead now | 17:07 |
| arsen | on jessie/sid? | 17:10 |
| diddledan | err. /me checks the channel name | 17:10 |
| diddledan | I have no idea what is included in whichever debian | 17:11 |
| arsen | sorry, was buntu not deb, just has the debian_version file | 17:57 |
| arsen | twas 14.04. | 17:58 |
| knightwise | Yeey :) | 19:25 |
| * knightwise got an old second hand 19 inch 5/4 monitor to hook up to my pi | 19:26 | |
| * knightwise happy | 19:26 | |
| ball | knightwise: composite video input? | 19:27 |
| knightwise | hdmi to dvi | 19:28 |
| ball | Oh nice. I use those too. | 19:30 |
| daftykins | that's pretty ghetto :) | 19:33 |
| ball | daftykins: What is? | 19:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | you're like those poor apple folk having to resort to dongles to use good headphones... :-P | 19:35 |
| daftykins | XD | 19:35 |
| daftykins | s/good// | 19:35 |
| ball | Nothing wrong with an HDMI -> DVD-D cable. | 19:35 |
| ball | No more loss there than an HDMI -> HDMI cable. | 19:36 |
| daftykins | i was getting at the 19" old display :> | 19:36 |
| daftykins | and yes, both speak TMDS | 19:36 |
| ball | Ah, ok. | 19:36 |
| daftykins | still got a 19" here mind, my first ever LCD | 19:36 |
| daftykins | just sits by the server nowadays with rare usage due to RDP | 19:37 |
| knightwise | I am playing around with teamviewer to remote control the pi too | 20:07 |
| knightwise | but its somewhat sootihing to have a "little" screen to work on | 20:08 |
| ball | My boss was talking about teamviewer. He was hoping to use it with a Raspberry Pi, I think. | 20:18 |
| daftykins | i predict more DDoS attacks from unpatched Pis running amok! | 20:25 |
| ball | I've powered down my Pi. I should try it again one day with Linux but it didn't work very well with NetBSD. | 20:29 |
| ball | I mean, it worked, but can't play video. | 20:29 |
| daftykins | perhaps they're too much of sticklers for some closed broadcom code that makes things work, perhaps? | 20:29 |
| ball | ...and was too slow to browse the Web. | 20:29 |
| daftykins | actually that got all open sauced i thought | 20:29 |
| ball | daftykins: Under which license though? | 20:30 |
| daftykins | not a clue | 20:30 |
| ball | That could be an obstacle, too. | 20:30 |
| daftykins | crikey this thai curry is hot :D | 20:30 |
| * ball goes back to pricing Travan tapes. | 20:32 | |
| daftykins | hmm those look weird | 20:33 |
| foobarry | how can i encourage my wifi card to use 5ghz? | 20:34 |
| daftykins | i always name the 5GHz networks $name-5G so there's no hopping issues | 20:35 |
| daftykins | then you can have it as a higher priority network | 20:35 |
| foobarry | do most mobile hpones support 5g too? | 20:39 |
| foobarry | man i've got bad lag tonight | 20:39 |
| daftykins | for a couple of years now | 20:39 |
| daftykins | the Nexus 4 from 2012 does | 20:39 |
| foobarry | ah, my moto g doesnt :( | 20:40 |
| foobarry | i got a new talktalk router :| | 20:41 |
| davmor2 | foobarry: hit and miss anything flagship tends to support 5g any thing other than flagship and it's anyones guess :) | 20:41 |
| foobarry | my laptop does support it but doesn't seem to have connected at 5ghz | 20:41 |
| foobarry | is hopping a bad thing? | 20:41 |
| daftykins | well it's obviously sub optimal if it's going to keep switching band based on signal levels | 20:42 |
| daftykins | much easier to just give separate names | 20:42 |
| ball | foobarry: My work phone does. My home phone doesn't. | 20:47 |
| daftykins | rare proof of Ken Bruce and Lynn Bowles being human - for any Radio 2 fans :) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyqfuWIXUAAkITf.jpg:large | 20:49 |
| daftykins | gotta love that banter | 20:49 |
| diddledan | "it's just bants mate" | 20:54 |
| daftykins | eh? | 21:00 |
| daftykins | that mainlanderese? :) | 21:00 |
| foobarry | hmm, 5G ssid not showing up on my laptop | 21:03 |
| foobarry | iwlist wlan0 freq shows the 5ghz freqs | 21:04 |
| daftykins | reduce the channel number | 21:04 |
| daftykins | something in the low 40s should be fine | 21:04 |
| foobarry | ah, its working. | 21:05 |
| foobarry | very laggy | 21:05 |
| foobarry | ping times are massive | 21:06 |
| foobarry | only a few yds from the router | 21:06 |
| daftykins | might still prefer other channels, depends | 21:07 |
| diddledan | we're still in the EU, metres, please | 21:07 |
| foobarry | bit rate is allegedly higher | 21:08 |
| foobarry | but i can't see what i'm typing | 21:08 |
| daftykins | my understanding was that Linux tends to do badly with 5GHz lappy radios | 21:09 |
| foobarry | ah | 21:10 |
| daftykins | no idea if that's changed | 21:12 |
| foobarry | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 166.585/694.905/1173.308/308.287 ms, pipe 2 | 21:12 |
| foobarry | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 34.803/117.296/268.935/75.339 ms | 21:12 |
| foobarry | quite a difference | 21:12 |
| daftykins | is that just between having both bands as one SSID vs. separating them? | 21:13 |
| foobarry | flipping between 2 iffernt SSIDs | 21:14 |
| foobarry | firmware on the router a bit out od date as i only got it today | 21:14 |
| foobarry | maybe it will get update overnight | 21:14 |
| foobarry | 2.4 ghz seems to get more errors though | 21:15 |
| foobarry | 5gz more discards | 21:15 |
| foobarry | could be thislaptop | 21:15 |
| foobarry | oh i'm wrong, this is latest firmware | 21:16 |
| foobarry | oh wow...disabling power saving in powertop has a distinct effect | 21:20 |
| daftykins | ah yeah, standard thing - what's the adapter? | 21:20 |
| foobarry | 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6230 [Rainbow Peak] (rev 34) | 21:21 |
| daftykins | mmhmm | 21:21 |
| daftykins | oh intel, you used to be the Linux wifi reference cards :( | 21:21 |
| foobarry | could be the fix. no lag on 5ghz now | 21:22 |
| daftykins | hope this results in a conviction \o/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37474595 | 21:23 |
| foobarry | http://pastebin.com/8abQ7VjX | 21:23 |
| foobarry | see if u can see the moment i disable power save | 21:23 |
| daftykins | heh wow that really was bad | 21:23 |
| daftykins | perhaps you still have some neighbourhood networks on 5GHz overlapping? i get 2ms on mine | 21:24 |
| diddledan | foobarry: around 1054ms you turned it off powersave | 21:24 |
| diddledan | probably just before | 21:24 |
| diddledan | sequence 5-6 | 21:25 |
| foobarry | after the 108ms. suddenly plummets to 19ms | 21:25 |
| diddledan | mmhmm | 21:26 |
| foobarry | i was pinging google dns rather than my router | 21:26 |
| foobarry | i should do my router | 21:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | *bzzzzz* things said by single geeks... :-P | 21:26 |
| foobarry | man, i've had this problem for so long | 21:27 |
| foobarry | irc always been laggy from home | 21:27 |
| foobarry | websites seem ok | 21:27 |
| daftykins | oh yeah i didn't even pay attention to the target XD | 21:28 |
| daftykins | how you folks put up with such crap from your home setups i don't know :) | 21:28 |
| foobarry | 2.4ghz seems to get lower minimums but more unstable | 21:29 |
| daftykins | i can imagine wanting to avoid it after a long day... but daym | 21:29 |
| foobarry | because i'm at work on a 10GB connection most of the day | 21:29 |
| foobarry | i've been ill for 4 days and off work | 21:29 |
| foobarry | onlt well enough to look at a tv today though | 21:29 |
| daftykins | install wifi analyser on an android phone and see how the channels you're using fit with the neighbourhood on each band | 21:29 |
| foobarry | i did that, but the problem is maainly this prower saving on the card | 21:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | i got a collection of hammers and take it to any misbehaving hardware... you'd be suprised how well hardware behaves when they see what happened to the toaster... :-P | 21:30 |
| daftykins | poor toaster :( | 21:38 |
| daftykins | is it Talky Toaster? | 21:38 |
| m0nkey_ | Would you like some toast? | 21:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | that'll teach it to hurt holly! | 21:40 |
| daftykins | how about a muffin? | 21:41 |
| m0nkey_ | Would you like a cheese and ham Breville? | 21:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | i suppose a bap is out of the question... | 21:42 |
| m0nkey_ | Sorry, but no. I've bun out. | 21:43 |
| diddledan | https://twitter.com/evanrachelwood/status/806589833560801280 | 21:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | pity, we were on a roll | 21:44 |
| m0nkey_ | A toast! | 21:44 |
| diddledan | I knead more | 21:44 |
| daftykins | bready or not | 21:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | those would only be half baked | 21:44 |
| m0nkey_ | We shouldn't waffle on like this | 21:45 |
| daftykins | my puns haven't risen yet | 21:46 |
| diddledan | bagel | 21:46 |
| daftykins | diddledan: hah at first i wondered why it was just a fuzzed out iPhone home screen | 21:46 |
| daftykins | rubbish way to convey info | 21:46 |
| m0nkey_ | You shouldn't flower the truth | 21:47 |
| m0nkey_ | And yeast of all, toast! | 21:47 |
| diddledan | ok, I've had enough, just shut your cake hole! | 21:47 |
| m0nkey_ | Sorry, no bun intended. | 21:48 |
| diddledan | cinnamon gonna sin | 21:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's using your loaf | 21:49 |
| m0nkey_ | I'll try not to sugar coat the truth | 21:49 |
| diddledan | time I put you on ice(d bun) | 21:49 |
| daftykins | donut stop (sorry, 'murica spelling) | 21:50 |
| foobarry | oh, the power saving keeps enabling itself | 21:50 |
| foobarry | more work required, but first bedtime | 21:50 |
| m0nkey_ | It's currenty impossible. | 21:50 |
| diddledan | I'm burnt | 21:52 |
| diddledan | burned? | 21:52 |
| m0nkey_ | Sorry, but I'm unable to rise to the occasion. I'm baked. | 21:54 |
| daftykins | Canada for you ;) | 22:06 |
| daftykins | http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=299446 :( this is sad, i knew this guy in #kodi | 22:26 |
| ball | One day I'll make it to Canada. | 22:28 |
| m0nkey_ | I did. 7 years ago. | 22:29 |
| m0nkey_ | I just never left | 22:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | they left him in the centre and he's still walking towards civilisation... :-P | 22:36 |
| daftykins | headed dueeeeee sooooouth... that's the way he's goooin ~ | 22:37 |
| daftykins | who remembers that series? ;) | 22:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | it was a great show | 22:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | though i preferred northern exposure | 22:37 |
| daftykins | not familiar with that one | 22:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | a ny doctor gets his medical school bills paid for if he does a few years service in alaska... hi jinx ensue when he can't escape his service in middle of nowhere | 22:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | cult following, very popular in its time | 22:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure | 22:43 |
| diddledan | daftykins: I loved that show | 22:50 |
| daftykins | Diefenbaker-dan! | 22:51 |
| diddledan | ray veccio was the cop, but I can't think of the RCMP guy | 22:51 |
| daftykins | crikey i don't know where in my memory i pulled that one from, i should get some episodes | 22:51 |
| daftykins | and the car model he loved so | 22:51 |
| diddledan | I remembered "Diefenbaker" as the wolf but didn't remember the dan bit | 22:52 |
| ball | I liked Northern Exposure! | 22:52 |
| daftykins | nah i added that to involve you, sir :P | 22:53 |
| diddledan | aah | 22:53 |
| diddledan | gotcha | 22:53 |
| diddledan | so Donald Trump is TIME Magazine's "Person of the Year" | 22:55 |
| ball | Ugh. | 22:55 |
| daftykins | ^ Ugh. | 22:55 |
| ball | Vile wretch that he is. | 22:55 |
| diddledan | o_O | 22:56 |
| diddledan | something I said? | 22:56 |
| diddledan | or did the Trump Protection Detail get him? | 22:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | now that's a job that will see some overtime timesheets turned in... | 23:02 |
| daftykins | the walls have ears | 23:02 |
| daftykins | <_< >_> | 23:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | and every laptop, phone, tablet, smart tv... | 23:02 |
| diddledan | unless it's got a Picasso hanging on it, in which case the wall cut it's own ears off | 23:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | thankfully i'm a ninja who sneaks up on cats for practice... :-P | 23:03 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: with a cucumber? | 23:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | no, that would be cruel. i give them a gentle head rub and annoy them that they didn't notice me approaching | 23:04 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsysNml153M | 23:05 |
| daftykins | i must be some form of ninja, one clients house is huge so when i am going to and fro i often give others heart attacks | 23:06 |
| daftykins | i've joked about needing a cow bell | 23:06 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 23:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | be festive and a set of rudolph antlers with bells on and a red blinky nose... | 23:07 |
| diddledan | launch at 23:53 UTC: https://youtu.be/C7RD-u2g6Wg | 23:26 |
| daftykins | aww but that's bed time | 23:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | not if you're trying to sleep within a mile or two of that launch it isn't... | 23:28 |
| diddledan | sonic, BOOM! | 23:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP, THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING NEXT DOOR AGAIN | 23:29 |
| daftykins | gerd dern neighbours | 23:30 |
| diddledan | oh those guys, they're always at it in the bedroom | 23:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | but in a moment of pure syncronisation the washing machine gives off no vibrations whatsoever as it is in perfect harmony with the rest of the building... | 23:31 |
| diddledan | something about orbital insertion with their long stick | 23:31 |
| daftykins | rudeler! | 23:33 |
| diddledan | since when have I been anything but? | 23:33 |
| daftykins | i'll get back to you on that | 23:34 |
| diddledan | in other news, butts | 23:34 |
| diddledan | will this giant pokey thing explode? | 23:35 |
| diddledan | I vote yes. | 23:35 |
| daftykins | guaranteed, but whether in a controlled fashion or not is perhaps the deciding angle ;D | 23:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | no they remembered to set explodeontakeoff=false in it's ini file... | 23:36 |
| diddledan | lol | 23:36 |
| diddledan | that sounds like a kerbal thing | 23:36 |
| daftykins | so glad chat is disabled | 23:48 |
| daftykins | guess Jeb is sitting this one out | 23:50 |
| daftykins | (did they just say the shrimp are running?) | 23:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | light blue touch paper and retire... | 23:53 |
| daftykins | the way that flame crept up was scary :P | 23:53 |
| daftykins | that almost sounded like 'voice of Patrick Moore' | 23:54 |
| daftykins | but i'm sure he's busy playing the xylaphone | 23:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | the announcer is called patrick moore | 23:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | accident with a cloning machine probably | 23:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | you know what christmas parties are like with copiers... | 23:56 |
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