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[00:25] <wxl> well, it isn't scottish
[00:25] <bazhang> @random crap HURD emacs
[00:25] <bazhang> what!
[00:26] <wxl> well, ubuntu certainly isn't hurd or emacs
[00:26]  * valorie gets the poo bags ready
[00:26] <bazhang> I think chu has emacs on highlight
[00:26] <wxl> or at least i hope it's not
[00:26] <bazhang> my bacon is chu 's emacs
[00:26] <chu> lol
[00:28] <bazhang> we totally need a factoid for spacemacs
[00:28] <bazhang> spacemacs is chu 's favorite OS!
[00:29] <chu> Oh God, please don't :(
[00:29] <chu> I think the whole fanboi'ing over spacemacs has died down, or at least, I hope it has.
[00:31] <genii> heh
[00:32] <bazhang> still superstrong here
[00:32] <dax> chu: have you tried vi i hear it is good
[00:33] <bazhang> if there is arch on windows, spacemacs deserves a spot there too
[00:34] <dax> emacs, for when you want a text editor that's so slow it has to hook into glibc and do crazy stuff to load in a reasonable amount of time
[00:35] <wxl> the problem is calling it a text editor
[00:35] <wxl> it's great for lisp for sure.
[00:35] <dax> i mean, my gentoo starts quicker than some people on LWN recently said emacs starts
[00:35] <bazhang> it has an irc client
[00:35] <dax> which is hilarious
[00:35] <wxl> i have entirely poo-pooed emacs up until editing lisp.
[00:36] <wxl> i still wouldn't consider using it as an everyday editor
[00:36] <wxl> and certainly wouldn't use emacs bindings
[00:36] <wxl> in that sense, spacemacs is kind of sane.
[00:37] <bazhang> s/kind of sane/ chu 's fave
[00:37] <wxl> bazhang: >
[00:38] <wxl> bazhang: and even if you fixed that, unterminated `s' command. bummer.
[00:41] <bazhang> true
[00:42] <bazhang> I want to highlight monsier de la chu
[00:42] <bazhang> gesundheit!
[01:28] <bazhang> does iresf want an actual step by step walkthrough realtime on irc on getting flgrx working for an android emulator?
[02:03] <chu> dax: I DO have vim.tiny installed, because, I had to give vim a chance (forget about the fact it comes installed by default)
[02:04] <chu> dax: Oh wow, have you been following Daniel's new fancy loader for emacs? :o
[02:04] <dax> chu: only insomuch as lwn did
[02:05] <chu> I see. The dude is a wizard :(
[02:07] <chu> Also, my emacs starts almost instantly - and that is using emacsclient - it depends entirely on the configuration, and most people's configurations just start by loading everything straight into emacs - which is why the load times can be so brutal. There's been a lot of work, say over the last decade (but it certainly goes back further), about loading emacs' internals only when it is needed, but as with
[02:07] <chu> most things emacs, it'll take a while before this has caught on.
[02:07] <chu> wxl: Yes, the default bindings are TERRIBLE :(
[11:37] <bazhang> welcome back nhandler !
[11:42] <bazhang> tethered shooting with digital camera
[11:42] <bazhang> I know tethered internet
[17:10] <Pici> do we need +r still set?
[17:21] <ikonia> I'd leave it set, but I do appreciate it is blocking the auto connect from the livecd/fresh installs
[18:24] <Pici> of course you do :)