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daftykinsyep, all they wanna do is talk about their toner00:07
daftykinsfree assassin's creed 3 on ubisoft's uplay right now, for any gamers00:22
zmoylan-piwill it work on my dumb nokia? :-P00:27
daftykins:D00:27
diddledanhttps://youtu.be/Snh-ufvXWIk00:32
daftykinsheh00:33
daftykinsg'night \o00:36
diddledannn00:36
m0nkey_She's got one of them squeaky singing voices. The kind that sounds like a dog chewing on a toy.00:41
m0nkey_But the band sounds good.00:42
m0nkey_lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x9aJOfW0Nk00:43
knightwise morning guys05:41
diploMorning all, anyone own a Xperia E5 ? Need to find a phone for £150~ if anyone has any suggestion, I was getting the p9 lite but ordered failed08:46
davmor2Morning all09:05
knightwisemorning all09:17
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Pretend To Be A Time Traveler Day! 😃09:35
diddledanJamesTait: didn't you say that tomorrow?09:47
davmor2JamesTait:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aizCMO-mI1Q and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CYDgezeQas09:47
diddledanthere are more mobile internet users in china than there is population in europe09:47
davmor2diddledan: welcome to the world we live where even the street beggers have mobile ;)09:57
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:08
diddledanthat's a knife! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-vNo6H5gww10:16
DJonesMorning all10:51
diddledanallo10:52
diddledanreally dark this morning10:52
DJonesYeah, it is here, probably going to rain10:52
DJonesAt least I've got no plans on going out today, need a quiet day after yesterdays  adventures10:53
=== PaulW2U_ is now known as PaulW2U
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/i/moments/80654865834698752011:56
foobarryif i add module options to by kernel command in grub, do they get remembered on subsequent kernel upgrades?11:59
diddledanyes and no12:01
diddledanit depends how you add it to grub12:02
diddledanif you edit /boot/grub/grub.conf then it'll get lost - the correct way is to edit /etc/default/grub and run `update-grub`12:02
foobarryta12:03
foobarryneed to remember this for later tonight :P12:03
diddledanI think I got the command name right - it's either update-grub or grub-update12:03
foobarryaren't there also config files for modules within the OS?12:06
diddledanin the olden days there used to be an /etc/modprobe.d12:07
foobarryhas that gone?12:07
diddledanI don't know whether it's still there or not.. I've not had to force load specific modules in ages12:07
diddledanif the module is necessary for boot and can't be loaded off disk (such as a module for a raid card where the module is saved on the disk that the card controls, causing a catch-22) then it will need to be included in the initrd - in those olden days you'd edit the modprobe config and run mkinitrd12:09
diddledanhttps://imgur.com/a/uhaYz12:47
foobarrycafe owner knows me so well. asked for bacon sandwich today. not a roll? are you unwell? well yes i am actually13:03
zmoylan-piand then he asked you to pay your account of... :-P13:30
foobarrythey only take cash...13:34
davmor2diddledan: is the game over card simply "And what's this button do"?13:47
daftykinshahaha14:45
foobarryso..talktalk routers - do i need to request a firmware update or i just wait?14:46
daftykinsone would imagine their support line has all the answers14:47
daftykinsprobably quite busy given all the issues right now though :)14:47
* popey hugs openwrt14:48
daftykinsi think it's harder to get xDSL routers that can run the open ones, since the chipsets tend to have closed drivers for the transceiver portion14:48
popeyright, but you don't have to use the wifi in the dsl router14:49
popey(which is what I do, switch off wifi and use my own)14:49
daftykinsif i wanted to be a bit safer i'd have to run a minimum of 2 boxes, likely 314:49
daftykinswhich is a bit lulzworthy14:49
* popey looks at his 4 routers :)14:50
popey3 running openwrt14:50
daftykinsi've got one of those Huawei HG612s that BT used to put out for their services14:50
foobarrymine is hg63314:50
daftykinsi suspect you're referring to extra ones that are just on WAP duty?14:50
popeytwo do dhcp for two different networks14:51
popeyone is a bridge14:51
popeyone network is firewalled off from the rest, so guests can use that14:51
popeyand not see mah stuff14:51
daftykinsmmhmm14:51
popeyi do like those netgear wndr3700v2 access points14:51
popeyeasy to flash, enough ports, multiple radios.14:52
daftykinsN600 tops, eww14:52
daftykinsold hat now14:52
popeyyeah, dunno what I'd choose if I was replacing them14:53
daftykinsanything with good specs doesn't seem to moddable14:53
daftykinshttp://netgear.co.uk/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R6400.aspx i found this one cheap the other day so put it in for a client to get proper -ac and dual band, but no options for open firmware14:55
daftykinsweird to find a router cheaper and better spec than most WAP models :P15:06
daftykinsthrew it on, updated firmware then disabled DHCP - done \o/15:07
davmor2I have no issues with my tplinks pretty much all of them can be flashed with both dd-wrt and open-wrt work well last well sit in the corner and do their job nicely thanks :)15:16
daftykinsi've had one fail already, they only make very low spec ones too15:18
davmor2Nothing like going ott with antenna http://uk.tp-link.com/products/details/cat-9_Archer-C5400.html15:18
daftykinsugh :P15:18
daftykinsthose kinds of devices are what folk who are doing it wrong get :P15:18
daftykins"surely i can run my whole property from one box" newp15:19
davmor2daftykins: you can you just need a small bungalow15:20
davmor2For the caravan I use a Huawei http://consumer.huawei.com/uk/home-internet/lte-router/gallery/b310-uk.htm15:22
foobarryhow do battery connectors stick to circuit boards?16:08
foobarrysolder?16:08
Seeker`solder / screws / clips16:08
foobarrythe one on my wiimote is unstuck16:08
ballTime for a new Wiimote. That'll be about UKP 200.16:09
foobarryits a gold special edition16:09
ballTrump Edition?16:09
diddledanmy ubiquity unifi-ac-lr is pretty funky for distance. I can sit outside in a car and still get wifi :-p16:10
diddledanclaimed distance is 183m16:10
diddledanhttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/12/internet-of-google-api-change-triggers-epson-printer-revolt/16:13
daftykins:D16:17
diddledanlove the irony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq6UtGcGPLM16:24
daftykinsugh NSFL link - it's boringly political16:25
daftykins(not safe for life)16:25
diddledanchannel4's on demand service "advert error. we're funded entirely by adverts. you may be running an ad blocker. you can see where we're going here..."17:44
popey4od is terrible17:44
popeyalways has been17:44
popeysometimes it will show the adverts *only* and refuse to actually show the programme17:44
diddledanit's low res for a start17:44
popeyand if you skip forward, you're forced to watch more ads17:44
popeyit's the worst17:44
daftykinsXD17:46
daftykinsmaybe they just hate FOSS? ;)17:47
foobarry4od is punishment. i feel dirty watching stuff on it18:11
foobarrymost series i have started watching, i have not enjoyed, and stopped soon after due to the adverts pain18:12
foobarryitv are going to a model of paying £4 a month to remove ads if you want18:12
foobarryyay i have fixed my wifi after not realising how chronic it was for maybe 2 years18:13
daftykins:)18:13
foobarryping time to router now 1ms instead of 500-1000ms18:14
daftykins\o/18:14
foobarryi don't put up with this at work. strange that i didn't realise at home18:14
daftykinsso it was pretty much solely the intel Linux driver in the end?18:14
foobarryyes18:14
foobarryGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash iwlwifi.power_save=N iwldvm.force_cam=Y"18:14
daftykinsreal shame they've gotten so bad18:15
foobarryahhh irc is soo responsive18:15
foobarryits quite old machine (3yrs)18:15
daftykinsdoesn't matter, i think intel adapters have suffered for ages18:17
daftykinswell, in Loonix land anyways, where simple things like wifi can't be taken for granted18:17
diddledandaftykins: we're not in kansas anymore18:37
diddledancan't take _anything_ for granted!18:37
daftykins:P18:37
daftykinsit's a bit laughable though when you think about it18:38
* ball shivvers19:35
daftykinsmmm chilly over there eh?19:36
ball-7C, light snow.19:38
diddledanI don't know what the weather is like here20:00
* diddledan asks siri20:00
diddledanlight rain, 12C20:00
zmoylan-pibeen old school, i prefer teletext like weather forecasts... :-) http://wttr.in/dublin20:03
diddledanzmoylan-pi: you're safe from nukes! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-3825615120:03
zmoylan-pinah, we'd all just pop round to relatives in the uk to avoid the problem...20:04
diddledanI like that weather forecast, but the alignments are off20:04
ballI should go and do a thing.20:06
diddledanomg, not a thing20:06
daftykinsit is too late, the thing is to be done20:06
diddledanbah20:06
zmoylan-piat least it's not a thang as we'd need a banjo to complete it20:06
zmoylan-piand todays commuter hell was brought to you by swans... :-P http://www.newstalk.com/Swans-delay-DART-due-to-cygnet-fault20:09
diddledancygnet sounds like a hacker chatroom20:09
daftykinsworse, it's skynet but run using cygwin D:20:10
diddledandear god20:10
diddledanat least cygwin can be largely replaced with bash now20:10
diddledan(bash on windows is a terrible name!)20:11
zmoylan-piunless your code now depends on a bug in cygwin to run properly... :-P20:11
diddledanhttps://hackaday.com/2016/12/08/bitbanging-vga-fits-in-under-1-kb/20:17
daftykinsbit what now? :P20:18
diddledanbit naughties!20:19
diddledanlol: https://twitter.com/Motoma/status/80688167043967795320:30
daftykinssomeone must be feeling a bit lysdexic20:31
diddledanthink about it closely20:32
diddledanthe S stands for security. there is no s20:32
daftykinsyes i was and i find it pretty bad :(20:32
daftykinsalso it was much easier to paste the text than have us load the page ;)20:33
diddledanI didn't want to take credit :-p20:33
zmoylan-piwhoever chose the spelling of dyslexia was a cruel cruel person...20:33
daftykinsmust've been the same smug git that came up with Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)20:34
diddledanit should be called "word ronging"20:34
zmoylan-pior the one who made abbreviation such a long word...20:34
diddledanat least the word gullible is stricken from the dictionary20:35
zmoylan-pigod speed john glenn...20:44
diddledanrest among the stars *sniff*20:44
zmoylan-pi'From the stars we came. To the stars we return, from now until the end of time.' babylon 520:53
daftykinshttp://www.macrumors.com/2016/12/08/apple-campus-2-inside-look/20:54
daftykinscult HQ is nearing completion20:54
* zmoylan-pi thinks of all the huge companies that have these grand projects of new spectacular hqs that implode soon afterwards...20:55
daftykinswe can but hope20:57
diddledanshauno would be mad if that happened21:13
zmoylan-pihe'd rage join irc? :-P21:14
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diddledanI love that landing on the moon was easier than faking it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU21:18
zmoylan-pii think the best comment on fake moon landings was by kubricks daughter who said that if anyone knew her father he would have landed ON the moon to shoot them...21:18
daftykinsi read there's a competition going on to land 2km away and verify things :) but they can't get closer than 200m21:28
zmoylan-piwhy land, get into lunar orbit and overfly the site...21:28
daftykinsthat wouldn't be good enough21:39
zmoylan-piwith no atmospehere it wouldn't need much of a lens to see the site adequately21:40
ali1234nothing will ever be good enough21:49
* zmoylan-pi blows dust of plans for giant trebuchet to fling conspiracy theory nuts AT the landing site...21:50
ali1234google "hologram moon" if you want to rage21:51
zmoylan-pii would have gone with space cannon but jules vernes estate would probably sue for copyright...21:51
diddledanhttps://github.com/jvtm/wm3con22:19
diddledanaustralian drink-drive campaign advert hits home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWWd822:29
diddledanadn then we have morons: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/80698769568787660822:43
balldiddledan: No shortage of those in the world.22:45
diddledanaye22:45
diddledanmoron than off!22:45

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