[00:07] <daftykins> yep, all they wanna do is talk about their toner
[00:22] <daftykins> free assassin's creed 3 on ubisoft's uplay right now, for any gamers
[00:27] <zmoylan-pi> will it work on my dumb nokia? :-P
[00:27] <daftykins> :D
[00:32] <diddledan> https://youtu.be/Snh-ufvXWIk
[00:33] <daftykins> heh
[00:36] <daftykins> g'night \o
[00:36] <diddledan> nn
[00:41] <m0nkey_> She's got one of them squeaky singing voices. The kind that sounds like a dog chewing on a toy.
[00:42] <m0nkey_> But the band sounds good.
[00:43] <m0nkey_> lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x9aJOfW0Nk
[05:41] <knightwise>  morning guys
[08:46] <diplo> Morning all, anyone own a Xperia E5 ? Need to find a phone for £150~ if anyone has any suggestion, I was getting the p9 lite but ordered failed
[09:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:17] <knightwise> morning all
[09:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Pretend To Be A Time Traveler Day! 😃
[09:47] <diddledan> JamesTait: didn't you say that tomorrow?
[09:47] <davmor2> JamesTait:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aizCMO-mI1Q and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CYDgezeQas
[09:47] <diddledan> there are more mobile internet users in china than there is population in europe
[09:57] <davmor2> diddledan: welcome to the world we live where even the street beggers have mobile ;)
[10:08] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:16] <diddledan> that's a knife! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-vNo6H5gww
[10:51] <DJones> Morning all
[10:52] <diddledan> allo
[10:52] <diddledan> really dark this morning
[10:52] <DJones> Yeah, it is here, probably going to rain
[10:53] <DJones> At least I've got no plans on going out today, need a quiet day after yesterdays  adventures
[11:56] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/i/moments/806548658346987520
[11:59] <foobarry> if i add module options to by kernel command in grub, do they get remembered on subsequent kernel upgrades?
[12:01] <diddledan> yes and no
[12:02] <diddledan> it depends how you add it to grub
[12:02] <diddledan> if you edit /boot/grub/grub.conf then it'll get lost - the correct way is to edit /etc/default/grub and run `update-grub`
[12:03] <foobarry> ta
[12:03] <foobarry> need to remember this for later tonight :P
[12:03] <diddledan> I think I got the command name right - it's either update-grub or grub-update
[12:06] <foobarry> aren't there also config files for modules within the OS?
[12:07] <diddledan> in the olden days there used to be an /etc/modprobe.d
[12:07] <foobarry> has that gone?
[12:07] <diddledan> I don't know whether it's still there or not.. I've not had to force load specific modules in ages
[12:09] <diddledan> if the module is necessary for boot and can't be loaded off disk (such as a module for a raid card where the module is saved on the disk that the card controls, causing a catch-22) then it will need to be included in the initrd - in those olden days you'd edit the modprobe config and run mkinitrd
[12:47] <diddledan> https://imgur.com/a/uhaYz
[13:03] <foobarry> cafe owner knows me so well. asked for bacon sandwich today. not a roll? are you unwell? well yes i am actually
[13:30] <zmoylan-pi> and then he asked you to pay your account of... :-P
[13:34] <foobarry> they only take cash...
[13:47] <davmor2> diddledan: is the game over card simply "And what's this button do"?
[14:45] <daftykins> hahaha
[14:46] <foobarry> so..talktalk routers - do i need to request a firmware update or i just wait?
[14:47] <daftykins> one would imagine their support line has all the answers
[14:47] <daftykins> probably quite busy given all the issues right now though :)
[14:48]  * popey hugs openwrt
[14:48] <daftykins> i think it's harder to get xDSL routers that can run the open ones, since the chipsets tend to have closed drivers for the transceiver portion
[14:49] <popey> right, but you don't have to use the wifi in the dsl router
[14:49] <popey> (which is what I do, switch off wifi and use my own)
[14:49] <daftykins> if i wanted to be a bit safer i'd have to run a minimum of 2 boxes, likely 3
[14:49] <daftykins> which is a bit lulzworthy
[14:50]  * popey looks at his 4 routers :)
[14:50] <popey> 3 running openwrt
[14:50] <daftykins> i've got one of those Huawei HG612s that BT used to put out for their services
[14:50] <foobarry> mine is hg633
[14:50] <daftykins> i suspect you're referring to extra ones that are just on WAP duty?
[14:51] <popey> two do dhcp for two different networks
[14:51] <popey> one is a bridge
[14:51] <popey> one network is firewalled off from the rest, so guests can use that
[14:51] <popey> and not see mah stuff
[14:51] <daftykins> mmhmm
[14:51] <popey> i do like those netgear wndr3700v2 access points
[14:52] <popey> easy to flash, enough ports, multiple radios.
[14:52] <daftykins> N600 tops, eww
[14:52] <daftykins> old hat now
[14:53] <popey> yeah, dunno what I'd choose if I was replacing them
[14:53] <daftykins> anything with good specs doesn't seem to moddable
[14:55] <daftykins> http://netgear.co.uk/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R6400.aspx i found this one cheap the other day so put it in for a client to get proper -ac and dual band, but no options for open firmware
[15:06] <daftykins> weird to find a router cheaper and better spec than most WAP models :P
[15:07] <daftykins> threw it on, updated firmware then disabled DHCP - done \o/
[15:16] <davmor2> I have no issues with my tplinks pretty much all of them can be flashed with both dd-wrt and open-wrt work well last well sit in the corner and do their job nicely thanks :)
[15:18] <daftykins> i've had one fail already, they only make very low spec ones too
[15:18] <davmor2> Nothing like going ott with antenna http://uk.tp-link.com/products/details/cat-9_Archer-C5400.html
[15:18] <daftykins> ugh :P
[15:18] <daftykins> those kinds of devices are what folk who are doing it wrong get :P
[15:19] <daftykins> "surely i can run my whole property from one box" newp
[15:20] <davmor2> daftykins: you can you just need a small bungalow
[15:22] <davmor2> For the caravan I use a Huawei http://consumer.huawei.com/uk/home-internet/lte-router/gallery/b310-uk.htm
[16:08] <foobarry> how do battery connectors stick to circuit boards?
[16:08] <foobarry> solder?
[16:08] <Seeker`> solder / screws / clips
[16:08] <foobarry> the one on my wiimote is unstuck
[16:09] <ball> Time for a new Wiimote. That'll be about UKP 200.
[16:09] <foobarry> its a gold special edition
[16:09] <ball> Trump Edition?
[16:10] <diddledan> my ubiquity unifi-ac-lr is pretty funky for distance. I can sit outside in a car and still get wifi :-p
[16:10] <diddledan> claimed distance is 183m
[16:13] <diddledan> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/12/internet-of-google-api-change-triggers-epson-printer-revolt/
[16:17] <daftykins> :D
[16:24] <diddledan> love the irony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq6UtGcGPLM
[16:25] <daftykins> ugh NSFL link - it's boringly political
[16:25] <daftykins> (not safe for life)
[17:44] <diddledan> channel4's on demand service "advert error. we're funded entirely by adverts. you may be running an ad blocker. you can see where we're going here..."
[17:44] <popey> 4od is terrible
[17:44] <popey> always has been
[17:44] <popey> sometimes it will show the adverts *only* and refuse to actually show the programme
[17:44] <diddledan> it's low res for a start
[17:44] <popey> and if you skip forward, you're forced to watch more ads
[17:44] <popey> it's the worst
[17:46] <daftykins> XD
[17:47] <daftykins> maybe they just hate FOSS? ;)
[18:11] <foobarry> 4od is punishment. i feel dirty watching stuff on it
[18:12] <foobarry> most series i have started watching, i have not enjoyed, and stopped soon after due to the adverts pain
[18:12] <foobarry> itv are going to a model of paying £4 a month to remove ads if you want
[18:13] <foobarry> yay i have fixed my wifi after not realising how chronic it was for maybe 2 years
[18:13] <daftykins> :)
[18:14] <foobarry> ping time to router now 1ms instead of 500-1000ms
[18:14] <daftykins> \o/
[18:14] <foobarry> i don't put up with this at work. strange that i didn't realise at home
[18:14] <daftykins> so it was pretty much solely the intel Linux driver in the end?
[18:14] <foobarry> yes
[18:14] <foobarry> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash iwlwifi.power_save=N iwldvm.force_cam=Y"
[18:15] <daftykins> real shame they've gotten so bad
[18:15] <foobarry> ahhh irc is soo responsive
[18:15] <foobarry> its quite old machine (3yrs)
[18:17] <daftykins> doesn't matter, i think intel adapters have suffered for ages
[18:17] <daftykins> well, in Loonix land anyways, where simple things like wifi can't be taken for granted
[18:37] <diddledan> daftykins: we're not in kansas anymore
[18:37] <diddledan> can't take _anything_ for granted!
[18:37] <daftykins> :P
[18:38] <daftykins> it's a bit laughable though when you think about it
[19:35]  * ball shivvers
[19:36] <daftykins> mmm chilly over there eh?
[19:38] <ball> -7C, light snow.
[20:00] <diddledan> I don't know what the weather is like here
[20:00]  * diddledan asks siri
[20:00] <diddledan> light rain, 12C
[20:03] <zmoylan-pi> been old school, i prefer teletext like weather forecasts... :-) http://wttr.in/dublin
[20:03] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: you're safe from nukes! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38256151
[20:04] <zmoylan-pi> nah, we'd all just pop round to relatives in the uk to avoid the problem...
[20:04] <diddledan> I like that weather forecast, but the alignments are off
[20:06] <ball> I should go and do a thing.
[20:06] <diddledan> omg, not a thing
[20:06] <daftykins> it is too late, the thing is to be done
[20:06] <diddledan> bah
[20:06] <zmoylan-pi> at least it's not a thang as we'd need a banjo to complete it
[20:09] <zmoylan-pi> and todays commuter hell was brought to you by swans... :-P http://www.newstalk.com/Swans-delay-DART-due-to-cygnet-fault
[20:09] <diddledan> cygnet sounds like a hacker chatroom
[20:10] <daftykins> worse, it's skynet but run using cygwin D:
[20:10] <diddledan> dear god
[20:10] <diddledan> at least cygwin can be largely replaced with bash now
[20:11] <diddledan> (bash on windows is a terrible name!)
[20:11] <zmoylan-pi> unless your code now depends on a bug in cygwin to run properly... :-P
[20:17] <diddledan> https://hackaday.com/2016/12/08/bitbanging-vga-fits-in-under-1-kb/
[20:18] <daftykins> bit what now? :P
[20:19] <diddledan> bit naughties!
[20:30] <diddledan> lol: https://twitter.com/Motoma/status/806881670439677953
[20:31] <daftykins> someone must be feeling a bit lysdexic
[20:32] <diddledan> think about it closely
[20:32] <diddledan> the S stands for security. there is no s
[20:32] <daftykins> yes i was and i find it pretty bad :(
[20:33] <daftykins> also it was much easier to paste the text than have us load the page ;)
[20:33] <diddledan> I didn't want to take credit :-p
[20:33] <zmoylan-pi> whoever chose the spelling of dyslexia was a cruel cruel person...
[20:34] <daftykins> must've been the same smug git that came up with Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)
[20:34] <diddledan> it should be called "word ronging"
[20:34] <zmoylan-pi> or the one who made abbreviation such a long word...
[20:35] <diddledan> at least the word gullible is stricken from the dictionary
[20:44] <zmoylan-pi> god speed john glenn...
[20:44] <diddledan> rest among the stars *sniff*
[20:53] <zmoylan-pi> 'From the stars we came. To the stars we return, from now until the end of time.' babylon 5
[20:54] <daftykins> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/12/08/apple-campus-2-inside-look/
[20:54] <daftykins> cult HQ is nearing completion
[20:55]  * zmoylan-pi thinks of all the huge companies that have these grand projects of new spectacular hqs that implode soon afterwards...
[20:57] <daftykins> we can but hope
[21:13] <diddledan> shauno would be mad if that happened
[21:14] <zmoylan-pi> he'd rage join irc? :-P
[21:18] <diddledan> I love that landing on the moon was easier than faking it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU
[21:18] <zmoylan-pi> i think the best comment on fake moon landings was by kubricks daughter who said that if anyone knew her father he would have landed ON the moon to shoot them...
[21:28] <daftykins> i read there's a competition going on to land 2km away and verify things :) but they can't get closer than 200m
[21:28] <zmoylan-pi> why land, get into lunar orbit and overfly the site...
[21:39] <daftykins> that wouldn't be good enough
[21:40] <zmoylan-pi> with no atmospehere it wouldn't need much of a lens to see the site adequately
[21:49] <ali1234> nothing will ever be good enough
[21:50]  * zmoylan-pi blows dust of plans for giant trebuchet to fling conspiracy theory nuts AT the landing site...
[21:51] <ali1234> google "hologram moon" if you want to rage
[21:51] <zmoylan-pi> i would have gone with space cannon but jules vernes estate would probably sue for copyright...
[22:19] <diddledan> https://github.com/jvtm/wm3con
[22:29] <diddledan> australian drink-drive campaign advert hits home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWWd8
[22:43] <diddledan> adn then we have morons: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/806987695687876608
[22:45] <ball> diddledan: No shortage of those in the world.
[22:45] <diddledan> aye
[22:45] <diddledan> moron than off!