[01:47] <diddledan> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-DC-DRM-No
[04:18] <diddledan> wat: https://github.com/plasma-umass/browsix
[09:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:27] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Friday, happy Anti-Corruption Day, and happy lost+found Day! 😁
[09:33] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4oYkIeGJc think this is apt if only for the video :)
[10:25] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:36] <Gargoyle> mornin
[10:40] <brobostigon> morning
[13:43] <m0nkey_> Huh, seems my city as of today is now a metropolis.
[13:45] <zmoylan-pi> your commute is now upgraded from pleasent trip to dystopian nightmare...
[13:52] <m0nkey_> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-proposes-greater-autonomy-grants-metropolis-status-for-montreal-1.3888329
[13:52] <m0nkey_> It was already a nightmare
[13:55] <ali1234> can i transfer a domain to someone who's email address is @ that domain?
[14:01] <m0nkey_> Yes
[14:02] <m0nkey_> During the transfer you can tell the new registrar to keep the existing DNS
[14:17] <ali1234> i dont want to change the registrar
[14:17] <ali1234> i want to change the owner
[14:18] <ali1234> example: i own foo.com
[14:18] <ali1234> i create a new user account at my registrar with email address stupiduser@foo.com
[14:18] <ali1234> then i transfer ownership of foo.com to stupiduser
[14:19] <ali1234> of course stupiduser is just me, but with a different email and postal address
[14:26] <Mak_Trefa> прив всем
[14:26] <Mak_Trefa> кто-нить знает, чем в лине можно SSD прогнать на востановление с HFS+ разделом?
[14:26] <foobarry> Mak_Trefa: uk = United Kingdom
[14:27] <Seeker`> I'm sure there used to be a factoid about that
[14:27] <Seeker`> !ukraine
[14:27] <foobarry> !uk
[14:27] <lubotu3`> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[14:27] <zmoylan-pi> hiberno english also acceptible :-)
[14:27] <ali1234> !ua
[14:28] <Mak_Trefa> sorry
[14:28] <foobarry> net problemo
[14:28] <Seeker`> !ru
[14:28] <lubotu3`> Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
[14:29] <foobarry> ya lublu morozhenoe
[14:29] <zmoylan-pi> it is a beautiful alphabet mind...
[14:29] <m0nkey_> да
[14:30] <m0nkey_> Also.. Так
[14:31] <m0nkey_> Це не український канал
[14:32] <m0nkey_> k, back to work for m e
[14:33] <m0nkey_> *me
[15:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[15:14] <davmor2> SebthreeBQM10HD: hi
[15:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> davmor2, right that's me happy for now :)  someone around here  wanted to buy a  new cd player for some rason, but bought a buetooth boombox .  so that's a cd player, a radio,  and all with a nice pair of spakers, and yes the bluetooth. so listening to music from tablet on it now :)
[17:27] <diddledan> lol @ alexa hijacking in ubuntu podcast to send tweets saying how great the ubuntu podcast is :-p
[17:33] <diddledan> god this is bad: https://twitter.com/ericlaw/status/807276698559516677
[17:33] <diddledan> from a gov website no less!
[17:34] <zmoylan-pi> well with all the other spying on your actions online, what's a few more criminals?
[17:38] <daftykins> oof, 5 mile ride severely kicked my posterior today
[17:39] <daftykins> Packard Hell still exist! https://www.dropbox.com/s/9uydhwpfxzg07yf/IMG_20161209_134411.jpg?dl=0
[17:40] <diddledan> yeesh
[17:40] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwht3jkyo84wfwh/IMG_20161209_134422.jpg?dl=0
[17:40] <daftykins> crazy SFF style unit there
[17:41] <zmoylan-pi> first pc i got my brother was a packard bell... cheap, solid and shipped with all the software and hardware he'd ever neeed
[17:42] <daftykins> win 3.11 and solitaire? :D
[17:42] <zmoylan-pi> win me :-D x2
[17:42] <daftykins> wow you must really not have got on!
[17:43] <zmoylan-pi> it gave no grief till he started using it online in a location where his phone line was split with a neightbour so struggled to get 28k
[17:44] <daftykins> oof
[17:45] <daftykins> i was really jealous of the lady today, she's practically opposite the parish exchange, so her VDSL line syncs at 82Mb down and 32Mb up
[17:45] <zmoylan-pi> at least with me as it was win 9x you could rip put every virus with just a boot disk... when i upgraded it to win2000 to make a new printer work it got a lot harder to keep going
[17:45] <zmoylan-pi> that's when he got a mac
[17:45] <daftykins> eww. hope you insult that at every opportunity
[17:46] <zmoylan-pi> at 28k the 5mb download twice a week of av updates got cancelled constantly
[17:46] <zmoylan-pi> the mac wasn't infected every week needing a reinstall from scratch
[17:47] <daftykins> nor would a Windows machine in the right hands, but so it goes.
[17:47] <daftykins> must've been a fan of the naughty side of the tubes...
[17:47] <zmoylan-pi> that's when he began his evil plan to get broadband... he rang them once a month till it was installed.... just over a year iirc... he can be _very_ persistent
[17:47] <daftykins> same brother that had the words with the supermarket exit driver fella? :)
[17:48] <zmoylan-pi> yup
[17:48] <daftykins> :D
[17:48] <zmoylan-pi> he has a gift....
[17:52] <diddledan> so cure: https://anki.com/en-us/cozmo
[17:52] <diddledan> cute*
[18:32] <m0nkey_> Guys, I need a new phone. I've decided to use some of my savings so I'm not being a cheap bastard (Like I was being the other day) .. suggestions?
[18:32] <daftykins> XD
[18:33] <daftykins> you sure? they tend to be crap that is redundant in a couple of years so it might make more sense going with those basic (presumed telco contract) offers
[18:33]  * zmoylan-pi temples fingers and prepares pure evil suggestion of a nokia 3310 >:-)
[18:35] <m0nkey_> Now I can look at the S7, iPhone 7 and other similar devices.
[18:35] <m0nkey_> Or the Google Pixel
[18:36] <daftykins> and the OnePlus 3T
[18:38] <diddledan> m0nkey_: the moto G gets good reviews for a budget device - for top-end I like my iPhone 7 :-p
[18:38] <daftykins> diddledan: you disappoint me!
[18:38] <diddledan> daftykins: baa
[18:38] <m0nkey_> I got to admit. I sort of like the iPhone
[18:38] <daftykins> how can you do dev and be ok with their evil moves?
[18:38] <diddledan> daftykins: because baa
[18:39] <diddledan> :-p
[18:39] <daftykins> what are the sheep's feelings on the matter?
[18:39] <diddledan> he has no choice, I cornered him
[18:39] <zmoylan-pi> any iphone as long as it's white
[18:39] <diddledan> I'm somewhat intrigued by the daydream vr thingy but don't think I'd use it
[18:40] <daftykins> i've just been handed a brand-spankin' Dell XPS 13 9360, the kaby lake edition (intel i5 gen 7)
[18:40] <diddledan> *drool*
[18:40] <m0nkey_> Thing is, an iPhone tends to just work. Pretty much any accessory will.
[18:40] <m0nkey_> Also, it has the added bonus of being compatible with my car head unit.
[18:41] <daftykins> and you use how many?
[18:41] <m0nkey_> I just a few bluetooth thingies
[18:41] <daftykins> just don't forget to subtract headphones from that list sans-adapter ;)
[18:41] <zmoylan-pi> it just works, as long as you do things the apple way and are prepared to keep following their lead
[18:41] <diddledan> adapter comes in the box
[18:41] <m0nkey_> Heh, headphone are already bluetooth. I couldn't give a m0nkey_ about not having a headphone jack.
[18:42] <diddledan> plus they give you a pair of lightning headphones too
[18:42] <zmoylan-pi> i believe people lose the adapter quite easily
[18:42]  * m0nkey_ uses his big ass Bluetooth headphones
[18:42] <daftykins> i suppose folk who don't care for quality use the stock ones
[18:42] <diddledan> >.<
[18:42] <m0nkey_> Which are quite warm during the brisk Canadian winter days
[18:43]  * zmoylan-pi also uses big headphones on cold days to keep my ears warm
[18:43] <daftykins> well, seems that despite you asking your mind is already made up!
[18:43] <daftykins> :)
[18:45] <zmoylan-pi> the need for real headphones over bt might only be a valid argument if there is good fm radio available in canada
[18:47] <daftykins> well i would personally never even consider wireless tech for such a job
[18:47] <diddledan> did anyone spot this link I mentioned in the darkest hours of the night: https://github.com/plasma-umass/browsix
[18:49] <zmoylan-pi> one weird thing i have had happen with bt is that sometimes in aldi and lidl they tried to connect to their staff headset intercom thingy
[18:50] <daftykins> "would zmoylan-phone please come to customer service for a swift clout 'round the ear 'ole"
[18:52] <daftykins> i got a right dirty look from the supermarket checkout lady out in the furthest parish today, must've been disapproving of my coming from 'so far' away :)
[18:53] <daftykins> sort of League of Gentlemen moment
[18:53] <zmoylan-pi> just as long as you get out of there before sunset...
[18:54] <daftykins> oh i did, no bike lights on me so i had to hurry away!
[18:54] <daftykins> could've gone to the cinema had i had them on me - quite keen to see The Arrival but i see they've stopped showing it already :|
[18:54] <zmoylan-pi> cycling in winter without lights...
[18:55] <daftykins> yeah, i got home in light hours still so it was fine
[18:55] <daftykins> i was quite unlucky because the batteries i had in one had leaked the white goodness and ruined the whole unit i discovered the other day
[18:56] <zmoylan-pi> i haven't had alkaline batteries leak in years..
[18:56] <daftykins> i've had a batch of 4 Duracell all do it just in the last month :(
[18:56] <zmoylan-pi> check that they are genuine duracells?
[18:57] <daftykins> finished the pack now
[18:57] <zmoylan-pi> one of the main reason i bought them was they guaranteed no leaks
[18:57] <diddledan> those energizer adverts are misleading: how many zinc batteries do you see in the shops at all these days let alone buy?
[18:57] <zmoylan-pi> when i used them in psion and palm it was super important to me
[18:57] <diddledan> "we last much longer than a battery you can't buy"
[18:58] <daftykins> maybe back in the day they advertised homo-sapiens over neanderthals in the same way
[18:59] <diddledan> "homo sapiens have much more brainpower than the leading homo erectus"
[18:59] <zmoylan-pi> 20% usage in uk... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc%E2%80%93carbon_battery#History
[19:03] <m0nkey_> I think I've decided.
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> windows phone \o/
[19:03] <m0nkey_> Baaah
[19:04] <diddledan> oh he's sheeping it, \o/ for apple!
[19:04] <diddledan> :-p
[19:04] <diddledan> >:)
[19:04] <zmoylan-pi> no love for blackberry
[19:04] <diddledan> <insert evil emoticon here>
[19:04] <m0nkey_> the DTEK-60 is interesting
[19:06] <daftykins> the whaaa?
[19:06] <diddledan> m0nkey_: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00JBBM92G/ref=s9_zgift_hd_bw_b35SnbL_g23_i3?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_r=NG0294FZ1GPTA3XEAWD0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=2a4b8882-fc45-557f-ab4e-13303a876d88&pf_rd_i=2829144031
[19:07] <diddledan> eww @ amazon links
[19:07] <m0nkey_> Couple of reasons for iSheep. 1) Car, plug-in and go. Works seamlessly with the head unit. 2) Don't use Gmail, I use plain IMAP hosted by FastMail, they support push on the iDevice. 3) Couldn't give a hoot about the lack of headphone jack. I use bluetooth headphones. :)
[19:07] <daftykins> well you only need up to the / before 'ref=' :)
[19:07] <m0nkey_> diddledan, awesome.
[19:09] <daftykins> i suppose on the plus side you fit even better as new-shauno now, m0nkey_ ;D
[19:09] <m0nkey_> True
[19:09] <m0nkey_> Until the day I rage quit.
[19:09] <daftykins> it's ok, we'll reign in zmoylan-pi :>
[19:10] <diddledan> you're all lucky that I'm never rage quitting!
[19:10] <diddledan> or should that be "fated"
[19:12] <daftykins> nobody else will take you 8D
[19:12] <diddledan> well that's true
[19:16] <m0nkey_> I gotta go shovel the snow. Back later.
[19:17] <zmoylan-pi> he's just stepping outside, he may be some time...
[19:17] <m0nkey_> If I'm not back in 20 minutes. Just wait longer.
[19:18]  * daftykins sets the clock
[19:18] <daftykins> i'll make it 32 minutes, 'cause that's how long until the cylons catch up again </BSG>
[19:18]  * zmoylan-pi allows for 5 minutes moose tax
[19:18] <diddledan> daftykins: I was thinking exactly the same
[19:18] <daftykins> 8D
[19:49] <diddledan> http://darkpatterns.org/
[19:50] <diddledan> this one is sky: http://darkpatterns.org/skys-marketing-preferences-puzzle/
[19:51] <knightwise> morning
[19:52] <daftykins> o/
[19:52] <knightwise> daftykins: I love that reference to the clock
[19:52] <knightwise> reminds me i could probably rewatch BSG-reboot
[19:53] <daftykins> :D i was only reminded of it from snagging season 1 in bluray and skipping through the first episode a bit
[19:53]  * knightwise needs to setup his linux laptop for the wife tonight
[19:53] <knightwise> gonna borrow her macbookpro for the weekend
[19:53] <daftykins> D:
[19:53] <knightwise> So wifewife is going to be using the xps13 with elementary
[19:54]  * davmor2 setups up mr blobby, agadoo, pineapple pen, stutter rap, shut up your face, chicken song and startreking on a loop that only stops when diddledan rage quits, muhahahahahahahahahahaha I know how to be evil
[19:54] <knightwise> Star Trekking !
[19:54] <knightwise> Mr blobby rules
[19:54] <zmoylan-pi> across the universe
[19:54]  * knightwise misses noels house party
[19:54] <daftykins> knightwise: i'm setting up a brand new XPS 13 9360 tonight :)
[19:55] <knightwise> Wicked
[19:55] <davmor2> knightwise: yeah but come on did you hear the song
[19:55] <knightwise> touchscreen version  .?
[19:55] <knightwise> the blobby song ?
[19:55]  * knightwise has to youtube that
[19:55] <daftykins> i said to a client that he could save upwards of £300 for a 9350 off the Dell Outlet, but he was impatient so brand new 9360 it was - £916 delivered here in tax free lands
[19:55] <zmoylan-pi> if you want good scifi get babylon 5
[19:55] <knightwise> daftykins: and now you have to put vista on it
[19:55] <knightwise> yeah , bab5 is also great
[19:56] <davmor2> quick everyone hide the knives, ropes and shoelaces while knightwise listens to mr blobby on youtube
[19:56] <daftykins> nah not touch screen, i5/8GB/256GB/FHD model - best for battery life
[19:56] <knightwise> me also loves space1999
[19:56] <knightwise> I have the same versiond
[19:56] <zmoylan-pi> season 1 or 2?
[19:56] <knightwise> Season 1
[19:56] <zmoylan-pi> season 1 is better
[19:57] <knightwise> true, Anderson quit after season 1 , because the americans wanted more cheap spacemonsters
[19:57] <zmoylan-pi> and the design of the eagle is still one of the best spaceships ever to make it to tv
[19:57] <knightwise> Agreed
[19:58] <knightwise> basically its the space version of a ford transit
[19:58] <knightwise> durable, hardworking and utilitarian
[19:58] <zmoylan-pi> and so good it made it into red dwarf...
[19:58] <knightwise> Now there is a show I never got
[19:59] <diddledan> babylon 5 is probably the best of 90s scifi
[19:59] <zmoylan-pi> red dwarf is awesome, at least up till season 6
[19:59] <zmoylan-pi> split between ds9 and babylon 5
[19:59] <m0nkey_> Time?
[19:59] <diddledan> time!
[20:00] <diddledan> 19:17 - 19:59 = 42 minutes
[20:00] <knightwise> just watched all seasons of ds9 again
[20:00] <zmoylan-pi> 43 minutes...
[20:00] <m0nkey_> Really?
[20:00] <diddledan> is DS9 on netfix yet?
[20:00] <knightwise> yep
[20:00] <m0nkey_> diddledan, yes it is.
[20:00] <davmor2> knightwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNkgDJpcuwU
[20:01] <diddledan> davmor2: you complete bar steward!
[20:01] <m0nkey_> Well, I did do the extra scrape all the icy crap, move the car to clear the snow underneath.
[20:01] <diddledan> that's evil!
[20:01] <knightwise> Oh man thats bad
[20:01] <knightwise> Running linux on my chromebook and i'm using the opera vpn client to watch that video :)
[20:02] <knightwise> Now thats evil ;à
[20:02] <davmor2> diddledan: you're welcome I'll make you rage quit I'm that evil muhahahahahaha
[20:02] <diddledan> :-p
[20:03]  * davmor2 hugs diddledan 
[20:03] <diddledan> \o/
[20:03] <knightwise> brb, walking home
[20:03] <davmor2> anyway guys and gals have a wonderful weekend
[20:03] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[20:03] <diddledan> roger, wilco
[20:03] <zmoylan-pi> over, dunne
[20:04] <zmoylan-pi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrRdy4BAYp0
[20:05] <m0nkey_> Technically, Dunn was under Oveur and I was under Dunn.
[20:05] <m0nkey_> So, you see, both Dunn and I were under Oveur, even though I was under Dunn.
[20:06] <diddledan> love those movies
[20:18] <m0nkey_> ugh, trying to run portsnap on my bsd box, the mirror is so damn slow
[20:20] <daftykins> have i mentioned how great Apple software is on Windows, lately?
[20:20] <daftykins> right now you need to manually run Apple Software Update, to update Apple Software Update, so it can get the latest Apple Software Update, so then you can update iTunes!
[20:20] <daftykins> \o/
[20:21] <diddledan> daftykins: iTunes on my insiders build is b0rked
[20:21] <diddledan> it starts fine but about a minute after opening it crashes
[20:22] <daftykins> oh no that's normal ;)
[20:22] <diddledan> :-p
[20:23] <daftykins> not looking forward to being asked how to use this Dell :(
[20:23] <daftykins> it's one of *those* types of clients :P
[20:24] <knightwise> i HATE itunes
[20:25] <daftykins> good man!
[20:25] <daftykins> sometimes i run into it on folks' machines
[20:25] <daftykins> i think Apple do it on purpose, it's either Quicktime or iTunes that actually overtook Java as the most exploited-when-unpatched program on Windows boxes
[20:27] <diddledan> not many folk use java these days. it seems to only be used by android devs and anyone running an ide like eclipse or jetbrains thingies
[20:27] <diddledan> there's nothing written in java that targets the consumer afaict these days
[20:28] <daftykins> didn't openoffice install it typically? i keep finding it on some folks machines that really shouldn't need it and that seemed to be the only commonality
[20:29] <diddledan> yeah, there's some bits of oo/libre office suites that use it but I don't think it's a hard dependency
[20:29] <diddledan> at least not anymore
[20:31] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2vzx2q4vo1s1563/IMG-20161209-WA0005.jpg?dl=0
[20:31] <diddledan> bikes
[20:31] <diddledan> lots of bikes
[20:31] <daftykins> my friend is doing a sorta charity thing with work where they manage and distribute a tonne o' bikes for school kids :>
[20:31] <diddledan> aah
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> f
[20:55] <foobarry> my wife is watching the worst thing i've ever seen
[20:56] <foobarry> hairspray live show itv2. truly vomitous
[20:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> foobarry, what's that? mght be what I am watching
[20:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> foobarry, yep bingo same here, but that's since I got a litle 15 year old brother, who well he's got the show host to play in Aprl ro so
[20:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> foobarry, where I live about all it's good for or kind of is amature drama groups,  some rubbish pubs, schools and a lesiure centre
[20:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and some places kind of ok to walk a dog
[20:57] <daftykins> ouch!
[20:58] <foobarry> i feel ill
[20:58] <daftykins> so glad i don't have a significant other who likes crap on TV
[20:58] <daftykins> my cat can't even operate the remote! 8D
[20:58] <foobarry> its truly shocking
[20:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> foobarry, why's that?
[20:59] <foobarry> it's my kryptonite
[20:59] <foobarry> i cannot stand musicals
[20:59] <foobarry> and this is the epitome of terrible tv
[21:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> daftykins, heh I been trying to get some girl to like me online, she likes stuff like that
[21:00]  * brobostigon also gets to endure crap tv, ie soaps with his fiance, the things a man has to cope with for love. right?
[21:00] <foobarry> i have such low tolerance for such drivel
[21:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> foobarry, you typical guy you h eh
[21:00] <foobarry> except i don't like action cheese that she likes
[21:00] <daftykins> foobarry: did you escape into another room or are you in front of it now the wifi is behaving? ;)
[21:00] <foobarry> like avengers, star trek etc
[21:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> brobostigon,  h eh :)
[21:01] <foobarry> i prefer stuff with a story
[21:01] <zmoylan-pi> there's always dr. horribles sing along blog... :-)
[21:01] <brobostigon> SebthreeBQM10HD: :)
[21:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> foobarry, well where I live as I put above....
[21:05] <daftykins> i truly think 3DTVs missed out on a trick there...
[21:05] <daftykins> ignore the 3D part, but have the specs be capable of tuning into one of two 2D programs based on the shutters, then headphones for everyone - yay two programs for one TV \o/
[21:06] <brobostigon> ST:VOY-vr'3d, :)
[21:06] <brobostigon> the borg, in v3-3d, eeek
[21:07] <brobostigon> vr*
[21:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> brobostigon, so which soaps you like :D ?
[21:10] <brobostigon> none.
[21:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> h eh
[21:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> what she make you watch then :D ?
[21:11] <brobostigon> emmerdale, eastenders, doctors, coronation street.
[21:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and not a sap
[21:12] <daftykins> that's my hell right there
[21:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sap
[21:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bu the x facter to?
[21:12] <foobarry> found a nit in my hair
[21:12]  * brobostigon agrees with daftykins wholeheartedly.
[21:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and  britains got talent, again not  soap, bu that to?
[21:14] <zmoylan-pi> huzzah, dr. horribles sing along blog is on youtube... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of9kHpCv1ts
[21:15] <foobarry> think i'm due a lifetime of checking for nits while my kids are in school
[21:16] <daftykins> time to go nuclear on foobarry's scalp
[21:16] <daftykins> you might be uninvited from the #ubuntu-uk Christmas party now though ;)
[21:16] <zmoylan-pi> or napalm...
[21:17] <zmoylan-pi> he can guide santas sled to a safe landing with a napalm head...
[21:18] <foobarry> is it a virtual party?
[21:18] <daftykins> so far, yep ;)
[21:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> daftykins is queen santa
[21:18] <daftykins> m0nkey_: oh don't forget to avoid the intel radio chips in the iPhones, they perform slowly
[22:26] <daftykins> alrighty i'm falling asleep already, g'night all \o
[22:27] <zmoylan-pi> o/