[03:23] <squish102> one night with the google pixel and it is a sweet device
[03:23] <squish102> really nice
[03:23] <theblazehen> squish102 Which one?
[03:25] <squish102> i got the smallest one for my daughter
[03:26] <squish102> i ordered the XL with 128G for myself, but only shipping in Jam
[03:26] <squish102> Jan
[03:26] <theblazehen> Cool
[03:26] <squish102> wife got samsung S7, and I think pixel is much better (i have a hate for samsung)
[03:30] <theblazehen> Samsung's alright, if you get rid of their software
[03:34] <squish102> hardware is nice... preinstalled crap that makes it hard to uninstall is bad
[03:35] <squish102> like i have a note 4 and whenever you connect to the car with bluetooth and i have to put volume up
[03:35] <theblazehen> Eh, power off, vol down + home + power, some other steps, makes it better. Never got to experience a nexus before though
[03:35] <squish102> it gives me a warning and i have to accept the louder volume.
[03:36] <theblazehen> Yeah.. Aux cable here, same thing
[03:36]  * theblazehen hasn't built a rom that takes my modem for my phone yet
[03:36] <squish102> samsung doesnt give you a way to get rid of it unless you root
[03:52] <squish102> all i hear now is my daughter going "ok google"
[06:10] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:10] <theblazehen> hi thatgraemeguy
[06:11] <theblazehen> squish102 why not increase the volume on your car?
[06:14] <MaNI> maybe he chose his car brand poorly as well so needs to root the car to change any settings as well :p
[06:19] <theblazehen> MaNI heh. I'd like a car I could root
[06:23] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: One of the new Tesla cars? They run Linux, so you should be able to get root somehow
[06:23] <theblazehen> paddatrapper sounds fun. Let's hope it's not connected to the CAN bus
[08:01] <chesedo> lol morning all
[08:07] <paddatrapper> mornin chesedo 
[09:13] <Kilos-> greetings everyone, 16.04 up and running on ssd on lappy
[09:13] <Kilos-> superfly: when you flying
[09:14] <superfly> Kilos-: 20th of December (this is about the 5th time I'm typing it now)
[09:15] <Kilos> i just got here man
[09:15] <Kilos> slow i know but im here
[09:15] <Kilos> i dont read logs
[09:15] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:15] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[09:15] <Kilos> you ok?
[09:15] <inetpro> goed, goed
[09:15] <Kilos> topic outa date you know
[09:15] <inetpro> since when?
[09:15] <Kilos> hehe
[09:16] <Kilos> next meeting
[09:16] <inetpro> really?
[09:16] <Kilos> lemme go see on lappy
[09:16] <Kilos-> aha
[09:16] <Kilos-> you just did it
[09:16] <Kilos-> skelm
[09:17] <Kilos-> you win this timew
[09:17] <Kilos-> time
[09:17] <inetpro> haha 😂😂
[09:17] <Kilos-> lol
[09:17]  * inetpro slaap in die nag
[09:17] <Kilos-> well done sir
[09:17] <Kilos-> jaja
[09:18] <inetpro> now all you need to do is to set up the Agenda on that page
[09:18] <Kilos-> chesedo: does that
[09:18] <Kilos-> i might be in hospital
[09:19] <Kilos-> going the 14th will reports from aus docs so who knows what they decide
[09:19] <Kilos-> s/will/with
[09:19] <chesedo> inetpro Kilos- will do soon...
[09:21] <Kilos-> ty lad
[13:24] <Langjan> Hi guys
[13:24] <Maaz> Langjan: By the way, paddatrapper on freenode told me "Tell Langjan I'm in Cape Town" 1 day, 38 minutes and 40 seconds ago
[13:24] <Langjan> thks Maaz 
[13:24] <Langjan> youre a good bot 
[13:25] <paddatrapper> superfly: ^ seems that iterum doesn't wrap to date after a while
[13:25] <paddatrapper> Langjan: And soon he shall be improved too
[13:26] <superfly> paddatrapper: indeed. not sure why I had that
[13:26] <superfly> Maaz: seen Kilos
[13:26] <Maaz> superfly: Kilos was last seen 4 hours, 9 minutes and 43 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-12-09 11:16:28 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2016-12-09 12:28:53 SAST
[13:26] <Langjan> Great are you updgrading him? 
[13:26] <paddatrapper> superfly: There is the trick
[13:26] <paddatrapper> Langjan: Forked the codebase to make iterum, yes
[13:26] <Kilos> im here
[13:27] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[13:27] <Langjan> Thats Greek to me paddatrapper  
[13:27] <superfly> Kilos: I know you are, I just needed to test something
[13:27] <Langjan> hi Kilos hoe gaan dit?
[13:27] <paddatrapper> superfly: Looks like it takes the system's timezone? (assume that it is running on a server in SAST time)
[13:27] <paddatrapper> Langjan: superfly and I are upgrading him
[13:27] <Kilos> Maaz ddg hello
[13:27] <superfly> paddatrapper: aaaahhh!!!!
[13:27] <Maaz> evening
[13:28] <Kilos> haha
[13:28] <superfly> paddatrapper: now my bug report makes sense
[13:28] <Kilos> ok dankie Langjan het geslaap
[13:28] <Langjan> Good then he will bring real coffee?
[13:28] <Langjan> You feel like a challenge Kilos ?
[13:29] <Kilos> what did you break
[13:29] <Langjan> Nothing serious just interesting
[13:29] <Kilos> clean installed
[13:29] <Langjan> noooo ways
[13:29] <Kilos> chicken
[13:29] <Langjan> I have got rid of the virus
[13:29] <Kilos> hahaha
[13:29] <Langjan> lmga!
[13:30] <Kilos> ok so whats the challenge
[13:30] <Langjan> but now it boots on black screen where logo and progress bar should be
[13:30] <Kilos> oh my
[13:30] <Langjan> now i'm here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143330/how-can-i-customize-the-ubuntu-boot-up-logo
[13:31] <Kilos> see if there is anything called splash screen
[13:31] <Kilos> its the splash missing
[13:31] <Langjan> the process is too complicated for me, hoped you will guide me thro it
[13:31] <Langjan> yes
[13:31] <Kilos> ok let me see
[13:33] <Kilos> did you download it
[13:33] <Langjan> yes
[13:33] <Langjan> I would actually like to do this but I think I need to get screen back first: http://askubuntu.com/questions/775301/unable-to-use-a-custom-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-16-04lts 
[13:33] <Kilos> then just run those commands one at a time in terminal
[13:34] <Kilos> im sure the splash comes with the gui
[13:34] <Kilos> can you open synaptic
[13:35] <Langjan> Have done a few times, dead end with plymouth module "(/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/plymouth//.so)" missing, skipping that theme 
[13:35] <Kilos> ai!
[13:36] <Langjan> yes synaptic been there too 
[13:36] <Langjan> ok its open
[13:36] <Kilos> type in ubuntu in synaptic
[13:36] <Kilos> then right click reinstall everything thats installed
[13:36] <Langjan> ok
[13:37] <Kilos> i looked in here and dont see kubuntu-desktop anymore
[13:37] <Kilos> maybe ubuntu-desktop still exists
[13:37] <Langjan> Im sure it does, I did reinstall desktop
[13:38] <Kilos> oh my and no splash screen
[13:38] <Langjan> no
[13:39] <Langjan> I get that plymouth message every time
[13:39] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:39] <Kilos> how did you get rid of your virus
[13:39] <Langjan> have repaired and reinstalled those packages, no diff 
[13:40] <Kilos> ok lets try something else
[13:40] <Langjan> OK I know I should have kept notes, sorry boss
[13:40] <Kilos> so you can read the boot in info
[13:41] <Langjan> you mean during boot - grub? yes
[13:41] <Kilos> i need to find where it is
[13:41] <Kilos> yes
[13:41] <Kilos> i think usr
[13:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:41] <Kilos> or etc
[13:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:42] <Kilos> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[13:42] <Langjan> ok then I must close synaptic
[13:43] <Langjan> and stop the ubuntu process
[13:43] <Kilos> if something is running then wait
[13:44] <Langjan> no im still marking the ubuntu items
[13:44] <Kilos> but terminal should interfere
[13:44] <Kilos> ok do that first then man
[13:44] <Kilos> ai!
[13:44] <Langjan> erminal will wait for synaptic to stop
[13:44] <Kilos> ek sukkel met die ou mense
[13:44] <Langjan> theres some biiiig files
[13:44] <Kilos> ok im in no rush
[13:45] <Kilos> i go make coffee
[13:45] <Langjan> you sidetracked me, its only about 70 MB
[13:45] <Langjan> running now
[13:46] <Langjan> cheeky youngster...
[13:47] <Kilos> thats one thing ive learned about van der merwes
[13:47] <Kilos> they are masters at passing the buck
[13:48] <Langjan> yes?
[13:48] <Kilos> as in you sidetracked me
[13:48] <Kilos> lemme go make coffee
[13:49] <Langjan> ok im into that grub file
[13:51] <Kilos> ok
[13:51] <Kilos> scroll down slow till you see 
[13:52] <Kilos> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[13:52] <Kilos> and put a # in front of it
[13:53] <Kilos> then
[13:53] <Langjan> ok done
[13:53] <Kilos> #GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[13:53] <Kilos> remove the hash
[13:53] <Kilos> the ctrl+o
[13:53] <Kilos> and ctrl+x
[13:54] <Kilos> oh enter in between
[13:54] <Kilos> then reboot and tell me what you see
[13:54] <Langjan> ja now you tell me...
[13:54] <Langjan> done
[13:55] <Langjan> ok bye for now
[13:55] <Langjan> not uipdate grub first?
[13:55] <Kilos> oh ya
[13:56] <Kilos> sudo update-grub
[13:56] <Langjan> sukkel met julle jongmanne...
[13:56] <Kilos> well done old man
[13:56] <Langjan> lmga
[13:56] <Kilos> so cheeky
[13:58] <Kilos> oh my he got lost
[13:58] <Kilos> oh my i made a mistook
[13:59] <Kilos> Maaz tell langjan in  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" delete quiet splash between the " "
[13:59] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[13:59] <Kilos> ai! ek word oud
[14:00] <Langjan> hi there
[14:00] <Maaz> Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell langjan in  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" delete quiet splash between the " "" 42 seconds ago
[14:00] <Kilos> undo what i told you to do in that line oom
[14:00] <Kilos> skuus man
[14:01] <Kilos> that is remove the hash in front of it
[14:02] <Kilos> and delete only quiet splash not the 2 " " goodies
[14:02] <Langjan> ai sukkel met julle jongmanne
[14:02] <Langjan> ok
[14:03] <Langjan> now update-grub and reboot again?
[14:03] <Kilos> yessir
[14:04] <Kilos> then tell me what you read
[14:04] <Kilos> hee hee
[14:04] <Langjan> haha
[14:05] <Kilos> Maaz ask langjan can you read that fast???
[14:05] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll ask Langjan on freenode
[14:05] <Kilos> i go find headache pills
[14:07] <Langjan> No diff except for millions of small letters and also bigger writing. I believe the key is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/775301/unable-to-use-a-custom-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-16-04lts
[14:07] <Maaz> Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "ask langjan can you read that fast???" 2 minutes and 11 seconds ago
[14:08] <Langjan> not quite that fast
[14:08] <Kilos> lol
[14:08] <Kilos> i believe you can pause it to catch up
[14:08] <Kilos> then you can read if there are errors in booting
[14:09] <Langjan> how? press pause?
[14:09] <Kilos> ask inetpro 
[14:09] <Kilos> maybe pause works
[14:09] <Kilos> i always take too long to find the pause button
[14:11] <Kilos> that looks like the fix Langjan 
[14:11] <Kilos> will make you think though
[14:11] <Kilos> and that could be painful
[14:11] <Langjan> No difference except for a lot of new letters on boot
[14:11] <Kilos> no man
[14:12] <Langjan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/775301/unable-to-use-a-custom-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-16-04lts
[14:12] <Kilos> you need to undo changes in /etc/default/grub
[14:15] <Kilos> thats all too high geeky for me unless i can do it slowly and bit by bit
[14:15] <Kilos> maybe easier way id to ask paddatrapper to write a script for you
[14:16] <Kilos> something like lets fix the ooms blunders script
[14:16] <Kilos> you should have left the kde boot logo man
[14:16]  * paddatrapper sees a wall of text
[14:16] <Kilos> dont fix what isnt broken
[14:16] <Kilos> lol
[14:16] <paddatrapper> What am I doing now?
[14:17] <Kilos> Langjan s unty booted with the kde logo because i think he installed kubuntu then put a unity gui over it
[14:17] <Kilos> so always showed the kde boot logo even though on unity desktop
[14:18] <Kilos> that was a virus in his old mend
[14:18] <Kilos> mind
[14:18] <Kilos> so he removed it but dunno how
[14:18] <paddatrapper> KDE boot logo where?
[14:18] <Kilos> no work for you paddatrapper 
[14:18] <Kilos> was a joke
[14:18] <Kilos> you know when kde starts
[14:19] <Kilos> the kubuntu boot logo shows
[14:19] <paddatrapper> Sounds like he's still using KDE's login manager... Switching that to whatever Unity uses should do it
[14:19]  * paddatrapper will read the backlog now now
[14:19] <Kilos> rest man well g through things
[14:19] <Kilos> go
[14:20] <Langjan> Hi paddatrapper 
[14:20] <Langjan> the ubuntu logo shows on shutdown
[14:20] <paddatrapper> Hey Langjan 
[14:20] <Kilos> Langjan https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjjj4Chp-fQAhUpLcAKHVUeBa0QFggoMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F129218%2Fhow-to-return-the-login-screen-to-the-default&usg=AFQjCNHGZXwRzg9IloDPCiSS-hzO1yuaFQ
[14:20] <Kilos> ai!
[14:21] <Kilos> click it an
[14:21] <paddatrapper> Ok. I'm just wrapping up work for the day then will have a look
[14:21] <Kilos> man
[14:21] <Langjan> ok man
[14:21] <Langjan> looking
[14:22] <superfly> paddatrapper: Ubuntu and friends use plymouth
[14:22] <Kilos> and dont rush so
[14:22] <Kilos> you forget i have one blind eye and the other one also sukkels to see
[14:23] <Kilos> i like booting in text mode
[14:23] <Kilos> then if someone is watching i can say im just checking for errors
[14:24] <paddatrapper> lol
[14:25] <Langjan> I have been to that site and thos instructions, tried again but did not get light dm option to select
[14:26] <Kilos> oh my
[14:26] <Langjan> no output after sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[14:27] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/492605/how-to-restore-the-unity-login-screen-after-installing-xubuntu-desktop-in-ubuntu
[14:27] <Kilos> maybe you dont have lightdm running anymore
[14:27] <Kilos> reinstall lightdm
[14:27] <Kilos> aptitude reinstall lightdm
[14:27] <superfly> Kilos: ai
[14:27] <Kilos> oops
[14:27] <Kilos> what
[14:28] <superfly> Kilos: if you really want to mess up your system, just blindly install desktop managers
[14:28] <Kilos> he is running unity
[14:28] <superfly> unit is a DE, not a DM
[14:28] <Kilos> ai!
[14:28] <Kilos> whats a de
[14:29] <superfly> Desktop Environment
[14:29] <Kilos> have they dropped lightdm
[14:29] <superfly> Sorry, DM = display manager
[14:29] <Kilos> i would have reinstalled lightdm then installed gdm then you get to choose which one you want to use
[14:30] <Kilos> surely that would have worked?
[14:30] <superfly> no
[14:30] <Kilos> thanks for jumping in superfly 
[14:31] <superfly> because they both start up at the same time, and then you end up with a computer that boots to a black screen because they're fighting for control
[14:31] <Kilos> can you tell him what to do please
[14:31] <Kilos> nono
[14:31] <superfly> Kilos: but changing your DM is not going to fix your bootsplash
[14:31] <superfly> ai ai ai
[14:31] <Langjan> Hi guys, I did the sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop and its back and working. Many thanks
[14:31] <Kilos> gdm and lightdm give you an option to choose one or the other
[14:32] <Kilos> ai!
[14:32] <Kilos> apt-get still works
[14:32] <Kilos> well done Langjan 
[14:32] <Langjan> yes it does, only a bit longer way to same destrination?
[14:32] <Kilos> why didnt synaptic fix that
[14:32] <Kilos> didnt you see ubuntu-desktop
[14:33] <Langjan> good question
[14:33] <Kilos> you must slow down old man
[14:33] <Kilos> more haste less speed
[14:34] <Langjan> I did reisnstall desktop, that time dod not work. I think the virus was still around...!!
[14:34] <Kilos> hahahaha
[14:34] <Kilos> im happy you have it like you want it Langjan '
[14:34] <Kilos> sorry for misleading you
[14:35] <Langjan> Wel I was gonna say you get right in 5 minutes what I cant in 5 hours, but it took you 30 plus mins in the end - getting old hey? 
[14:35] <Kilos> yes im tired today for some reason
[14:35] <Langjan> ai sorry
[14:35] <Langjan>  dan pla die ou man jou ook nog 
[14:35] <paddatrapper> Glad it is fixed Langjan 
[14:35] <Kilos> even took a big swig of vinegar to thin blood
[14:35] <Langjan> thks paddatrapper 
[14:36] <Langjan> and for the help 
[14:36] <Langjan>  you also superfly 
[14:36] <Kilos> yes ty my guys
[14:36] <Kilos> Langjan on the 20th superfly leaves us
[14:36] <Kilos> well the country anyway
[14:36] <Langjan> Why and where to?
[14:37] <Kilos> usa
[14:37] <Langjan> ai
[14:37] <Kilos> you dont know??
[14:37] <Langjan> no?
[14:37] <Kilos> his wife had to leave because her visa expired
[14:37] <Kilos> but they got kids here how skeef is that
[14:37] <Kilos> and fly dont like sleeping alone so he is following
[14:38] <Langjan> thats a real shame
[14:38] <Kilos> you must keep up with the news old man
[14:38] <Langjan> maybe better for him to leave zuma and malema
[14:38] <Kilos> yes real shame but maybe better for them all
[14:38] <Langjan> and mugabe
[14:38] <Kilos> yes
[14:38] <Langjan> maimane not much better
[14:39] <Langjan> so sorry to see you go superfly but hope all ends well, very well
[14:39] <Langjan> at least the yanks can play sevens
[14:39] <Kilos> im sad
[14:40] <superfly> I'm not going to New York.
[14:40] <Kilos> him and pro were my first contacts in here
[14:40] <superfly> I'm going to Arizona.
[14:40] <Kilos> fly even had to tell me how to use irc to get here
[14:40] <Langjan> OK well best of luck to you, will hopefully keep in touch
[14:41] <Kilos> storm coming so power could go guys , be good
[14:41] <Langjan> well I'm glad he did
[14:41] <Kilos> yes we just have to stay up late 
[14:41] <Langjan> ok enjoy the rain
[14:41] <Kilos>  not here yet
[14:41] <Kilos> boom booms only
[14:41] <Langjan> go well you stars 
[14:42] <Kilos> Langjan 
[14:42] <Langjan> ja
[14:42] <Kilos> dont fix what isnt broken
[14:42] <Kilos> leave well enough alone
[14:42] <Langjan> learning slow
[14:42] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:42] <Langjan> thks good advice
[14:42] <Kilos> i enjoy you being here you know
[14:43] <Kilos> us toppies can have fun at times
[14:43] <Langjan> started when I wanted to make you happy by dabbling with kde
[14:43] <Kilos> lemme go shutdown desktop
[14:43] <Kilos> yes i remember that
[14:43] <Langjan> if it did not we would not have had this afternoons fun...
[14:43] <Kilos> haha
[14:44] <Langjan> bywe for now lekker naweek almal
[17:51] <Kilos> ai!
[17:51] <Kilos> net gone
[18:55] <Kilos> i just popping in to say night everyone
[18:55] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:55] <Kilos> still storming here
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[18:55] <Kilos> why what
[18:55] <inetpro> isn't it a bit early to go sleep yet?
[18:55] <Kilos> no i am rather old you know
[18:56] <Kilos> hehe
[18:56] <inetpro> good evening btw :-)
[18:56] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[18:56] <Kilos> if you have something to say ill stay
[18:56] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:56] <Kilos> Maaz hmm...
[18:56] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[18:56] <inetpro> define if
[18:57] <Kilos> Maaz define if
[18:57] <Maaz> Kilos: If \If\, conj. [OE. if, gif, AS. gif; akin to OFries. ief, gef, ef, OS. ef, of, D. of, or, whether, if, G. ob whether, if, OHG. oba, ibu, Icel. ef, Goth. iba, ibai, an interrogative particle; properly a case form of a noun meaning, doubt (cf. OHG. iba doubt, condition, Icel. if, ef, ifi, efi), and therefore orig. meaning, on condition that.] 1. In case that;
[18:57] <Maaz> granting, allowing, or supposing that; -- introducing a condition or supposition. [1913 …
[18:58] <inetpro> despite the possibility that; no matter whether
[18:58] <Kilos> lol
[18:58] <inetpro> eg: "if it takes me seven years, I shall do it"
[18:58] <Kilos> should be even if
[18:59] <inetpro> could also be expressing surprise or regret
[18:59] <Kilos> eish
[18:59] <Kilos> dont you have anything constructive to say
[19:00] <Kilos> and dont smirk either
[19:00] <inetpro> haha :-)
[19:00] <inetpro> sorry oom
[19:00] <Kilos> lol
[19:00] <inetpro> jy kan maar gaan slaap
[19:00] <inetpro> as jy moeg is
[19:00] <Kilos> ag baie dankie boetie
[19:00] <inetpro> maar net as
[19:00] <Kilos> net kwaai kop seer
[19:00] <inetpro> ai!
[19:01] <inetpro> Kilos: goeie nagrus!
[19:01] <inetpro> hoop jy voel more beter
[19:01] <Kilos> dankie en jy ook
[19:01] <Kilos> sien jou more
[19:02] <Kilos> ek sal moenie worry nioe
[19:02] <Kilos> nie