| genii | There seems to be some stray iconv things in libcxxtools-dev | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| wxl | i'm pretty sure it's gnulibs | 00:01 |
| wxl | i'm testing the theory now | 00:01 |
| clivejo | given the website and the goat I agree | 00:02 |
| wxl | this is further proof it IS gnu/linux | 00:03 |
| tsimonq2 | EEWW | 00:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Shush with your terminology | 00:03 |
| tsimonq2 | It's Linux. | 00:03 |
| tsimonq2 | JUST Linux. | 00:03 |
| wxl | but it has gnulibs | 00:03 |
| tsimonq2 | L I N U X. No slash. No animal. | 00:03 |
| wxl | and gnucoreutils | 00:04 |
| wxl | and gnu---- XD | 00:04 |
| valorie | all hail the gnu! hurd forevar | 00:05 |
| tsimonq2 | "Recently, the arrival of desktop Linux (and, no, I refuse to say GNU/Linux as much I refuse to say GNU/X/OpenBox/LXDE instead of Lubuntu) was announced." -Walter Lapchynski | 00:05 |
| wxl | hurd forever | 00:08 |
| wxl | hahahahahah | 00:08 |
| clivejo | wxl: are we there yet? | 00:08 |
| wxl | clivejo: with hurd? no. give it about 10,000 more years. | 00:08 |
| wxl | clivejo: with kexi? no. still building. | 00:08 |
| clivejo | with kexi! | 00:08 |
| wxl | clivejo: with desktop Linux? yeah. long time ago. | 00:08 |
| valorie | since 2001 for me | 00:09 |
| wxl | i'd say that's probably about accurate | 00:09 |
| valorie | about half of my machines have been dual-boot with windows, but I never logged into the windows | 00:10 |
| valorie | so eventually it always got disappeared | 00:10 |
| wxl | ew dual boot | 00:11 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: lol | 00:12 |
| valorie | well I always intend to check out building or using KDE apps on windows | 00:12 |
| valorie | but..... | 00:12 |
| valorie | only so much time in every day | 00:13 |
| wxl | yeah | 00:13 |
| wxl | but then you'd have to actually use it | 00:13 |
| valorie | so true | 00:14 |
| wxl | at that point just do a windows vm | 00:14 |
| valorie | that involves installing windows | 00:14 |
| wxl | oh yeah | 00:15 |
| valorie | which .... | 00:15 |
| wxl | well | 00:15 |
| wxl | nevermind XD | 00:15 |
| wxl | k word on the street is that it's already in glibc, so should be good | 00:18 |
| wxl | darn thing failed again tho | 00:18 |
| wxl | usr/share/locale issues | 00:18 |
| wxl | getting there! | 00:19 |
| clivejo | wxl: are we there yet? | 00:49 |
| wxl | almost | 00:49 |
| wxl | clivejo: are we sure this is right? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kexi/commit/debian/kexi-l10n.install?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=c4e577d12fa56fca69dc71ccc09a16d2a97a7de3 | 00:52 |
| wxl | cuz that's the problem | 00:53 |
| wxl | https://paste.ubuntu.com/23605897/ | 00:54 |
| wxl | dh_install: kexi-l10n missing files: usr/share/locale/ | 00:54 |
| * wxl wishes cgit had a blame | 00:59 | |
| valorie | can't you git-blame #commit# ? | 01:00 |
| valorie | no matter where you get it from | 01:00 |
| wxl | https://github.com/blog/228-playing-the-blame-game | 01:00 |
| wxl | and yes i can do it with git-blame but it's nice to be able to brwose around | 01:01 |
| valorie | I get your point | 01:01 |
| valorie | file a bug with cgit! | 01:02 |
| wxl | success | 01:03 |
| wxl | so if we DO NOT build kexi-l10n, we're good | 01:04 |
| clivejo | l10n is a pain in the backside | 01:05 |
| wxl | do you have any suggestions? | 01:05 |
| clivejo | yes, force everyone to speak English | 01:05 |
| wxl | hahahah | 01:05 |
| valorie | booo | 01:06 |
| wxl | so maybe i should just push this as is with kexi-l10n.install commented out? | 01:06 |
| clivejo | for some reason languages arent stored in git master | 01:06 |
| wxl | maybe a #TODO FIXME DARNIT | 01:06 |
| wxl | ? | 01:06 |
| wxl | XD | 01:06 |
| clivejo | they stored separate on some magic server somewhere | 01:06 |
| valorie | they aren't stored in git master because the translators don't get the strings until the freeze before release | 01:07 |
| valorie | string freeze | 01:07 |
| clivejo | but the release tar balls are spun with them included | 01:07 |
| valorie | exactly, they are in SVN because reasons | 01:07 |
| clivejo | so we still need those packages | 01:07 |
| valorie | magic server from the past..... | 01:08 |
| wxl | so i should leave it messed up? | 01:08 |
| clivejo | is it causing a lintian error? | 01:08 |
| wxl | no | 01:08 |
| clivejo | whats it doing? | 01:08 |
| wxl | https://paste.ubuntu.com/23605897/ | 01:09 |
| clivejo | I guess comment it out, and we'll need to undo that for release | 01:10 |
| wxl | k | 01:10 |
| wxl | should i made a note undo at release? | 01:10 |
| clivejo | Im not sure how they intend to do it | 01:11 |
| clivejo | they used to have a huge calligra l10n package | 01:11 |
| clivejo | but now they split out kexi and krita I dont know how that is going to work | 01:11 |
| valorie | seems like a question for the distributions list? | 01:12 |
| valorie | everyone will have the same question | 01:12 |
| clivejo | you could try packaging 2.99.90 | 01:12 |
| clivejo | http://download.kde.org/unstable/kexi/src/ | 01:12 |
| wxl | you want an MP for this? | 01:13 |
| valorie | and all the distros will appreciate clarification | 01:13 |
| clivejo | see if the l10n files are in the release tarball | 01:13 |
| clivejo | wxl: would be a good test if uscan works :) | 01:14 |
| wxl | there's po's in there | 01:14 |
| clivejo | any tinky winky's? | 01:14 |
| wxl | i guess for now i'm going to push this as is | 01:15 |
| valorie | rofl | 01:15 |
| wxl | oh boy, clivejo :) | 01:15 |
| wxl | i'll work on packaging this in a bit | 01:15 |
| wxl | i gotta go see my mother in law who just got out of surgery | 01:15 |
| wxl | you want an MP, clivejo ? | 01:15 |
| clivejo | wxl: package up that beta with your current packaging and throw it at one of your PPA's | 01:16 |
| wxl | yep | 01:16 |
| wxl | will do | 01:16 |
| wxl | but meanwhile.. XD | 01:16 |
| clivejo | I think you could just push it | 01:16 |
| clivejo | we have discussed all the changes? | 01:16 |
| wxl | i did two things: | 01:16 |
| wxl | 1. added glib | 01:17 |
| wxl | (as a build-depends) | 01:17 |
| wxl | 2. commented out kde-l10n | 01:17 |
| clivejo | 3. Chnagelog? | 01:17 |
| wxl | i guess i should, shouldn't i | 01:17 |
| * clivejo nods | 01:17 | |
| clivejo | actually that version number is wrong :( | 01:19 |
| wxl | ..1? | 01:19 |
| clivejo | its .90 not 91 :( | 01:19 |
| wxl | uh oh you messed up you messed up you messed up XD | 01:20 |
| wxl | how od we fix that?> | 01:20 |
| clivejo | oh wait | 01:20 |
| clivejo | they must have respun | 01:20 |
| clivejo | http://download.kde.org/unstable/kexi/src/ | 01:20 |
| wxl | so... | 01:21 |
| wxl | push? | 01:21 |
| clivejo | 2.99.90 and 2.99.91 | 01:21 |
| clivejo | yeah | 01:21 |
| wxl | done | 01:21 |
| wxl | so | 01:21 |
| wxl | grab 91 and give it a go in a ppa | 01:21 |
| wxl | i'll do that when i'm back from the hospital | 01:21 |
| * clivejo nods | 01:21 | |
| clivejo | if you get time | 01:22 |
| * clivejo wonders how Neon handle l10n stuffs | 01:22 | |
| wxl | well | 01:22 |
| wxl | that's where i'm confused | 01:22 |
| wxl | their kexi doesn't have a kexi-l10n | 01:22 |
| valorie | they don't do it for unstable | 01:22 |
| wxl | but your commit that added that says you got help from them | 01:22 |
| valorie | only for released stuff | 01:23 |
| wxl | oh there you go then | 01:23 |
| valorie | because of the issue you encountered | 01:23 |
| clivejo | Haruld probably has a magic unicorn that lays l10n packages | 01:23 |
| valorie | he may personally speak all the languages! | 01:24 |
| wxl | k talk so | 01:24 |
| wxl | on | 01:25 |
| wxl | :) | 01:25 |
| * valorie goes off to find pizza | 01:25 | |
| * clivejo falls around looking for more JD | 01:25 | |
| clivejo | hi DarinMiller | 01:32 |
| DarinMiller | Hey clivejo! | 01:33 |
| clivejo | how are you? | 01:33 |
| DarinMiller | I am quite fine now that the weekend is here! And you? | 01:34 |
| clivejo | little drunk :) | 01:34 |
| DarinMiller | Very good ... :) | 01:35 |
| DarinMiller | Spinning up ZZ install after reading thru some the action here today... | 01:36 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kexi build #9: NOW UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kexi/9/ | 01:41 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kexi build #13: STILL FAILING in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/13/ | 01:41 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kexi build #9: STILL FAILING in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kexi/9/ | 01:41 | |
| clivejo | ooo lintian | 01:46 |
| * clivejo shakes head | 01:46 | |
| * DarinMiller does not speak lintian yet .... thinks chinese might be easier.... | 01:47 | |
| clivejo | its rather annoying | 01:51 |
| clivejo | failed that package because lintian is too "new" | 01:51 |
| DarinMiller | zz install and updates went well. The Driver Manager struggled though and enventually failed. I selected new driver option and Intel microcode; hit apply and menu would re-arrange itself without installing anything. After 3rd try, I installed Nvidia and microcode from command line without issue. | 01:52 |
| DarinMiller | Which package has lintian that is too new? | 01:53 |
| clivejo | kexi | 01:54 |
| DarinMiller | Oh yeah, new toys coming ....! ATTENTION - ACHTUNG ! | 01:55 |
| clivejo | well it will be much the same, only faster :) | 01:56 |
| DarinMiller | I search the console output for "fail", "error" and lintian. Could not find any of the above. How does one find a lintian error? | 01:59 |
| clivejo | its the build log | 01:59 |
| clivejo | http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/13/ | 02:00 |
| clivejo | amd64 on the left hand side | 02:00 |
| clivejo | === Start lintian | 02:00 |
| DarinMiller | Oh, I clicked on build 14. Is 14 the build in progress? | 02:00 |
| clivejo | yes | 02:00 |
| clivejo | when it failes, KCI automatically retries it | 02:01 |
| clivejo | it failed the package because of E: kexi source: build-depends-on-obsolete-package build-depends: libmysqlclient-dev => default-libmysqlclient-dev | 02:01 |
| DarinMiller | I was wondering why the left hand links were strange? | 02:01 |
| DarinMiller | ! | 02:02 |
| clivejo | you can also click on Parsed Console | 02:03 |
| clivejo | that will show you a traffic light of the errors and warnings | 02:03 |
| * DarinMiller Does like the parsed console window... have to run browser full screen to make it readable.... | 02:04 | |
| DarinMiller | Trafic light should be across the top..... (maybe I can fix one day...) | 02:04 |
| DarinMiller | So is something missing from here: https://lintian.debian.org/tags/ that's causing it to fail? | 02:08 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kexi build #14: STILL FAILING in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/14/ | 02:09 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kexi build #10: STILL FAILING in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kexi/10/ | 02:09 | |
| clivejo | !info default-libmysqlclient-dev | 02:09 |
| ubottu | Package default-libmysqlclient-dev does not exist in yakkety | 02:09 |
| clivejo | !info default-libmysqlclient-dev zesty | 02:09 |
| ubottu | default-libmysqlclient-dev (source: mysql-defaults): MySQL database development files (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.0ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 3 kB, installed size 9 kB | 02:09 |
| clivejo | its a new package that should replace libmysqlclient-dev | 02:10 |
| clivejo | but XX and YY dont have it, so we used the old name libmysqlclient-dev in the control file | 02:10 |
| clivejo | but lintian has versions | 02:10 |
| clivejo | and the newer versions know about this change and complain if you use the old name | 02:11 |
| clivejo | in xenial, it doesnt know about the new standand and is using an old version | 02:13 |
| clivejo | W: kexi source: newer-standards-version 3.9.8 (current is 3.9.7) | 02:13 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: how far did you and Simon get with kdevelop? | 02:19 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Ohai | 02:19 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Deps are fun | 02:19 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: we attempted to compile but we were missing a ppa or 2. | 02:23 |
| clivejo | a ppa? | 02:24 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> s/a ppa or 2/some deps/ | 02:24 |
| clivejo | ah | 02:24 |
| clivejo | you have to build them first :P | 02:25 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> I know. I was tired and gave up. :P | 02:25 |
| DarinMiller | the deps were not in ppa? | 02:25 |
| clivejo | like building a lego house | 02:25 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Rule #1: Never build a lego house around Max. :P | 02:26 |
| clivejo | well you should build them to 5.0.2 | 02:26 |
| clivejo | so they dep wait on the newer ones | 02:26 |
| DarinMiller | why not 5.0.3? | 02:26 |
| clivejo | oh sorry | 02:26 |
| clivejo | thats what I meant | 02:26 |
| DarinMiller | vg | 02:27 |
| clivejo | no, he likes to help too much | 02:28 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: will you have some time this weekend to drag me thru the kdevelop build? | 02:31 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: you lost me when we encounter the dep issue and I was not able to flounder my way to a solution | 02:33 |
| DarinMiller | encountered^ | 02:33 |
| clivejo | http://postimg.org/image/50dpce7gt/ | 02:34 |
| clivejo | wxl: ^^ | 02:34 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Sure Darin | 02:34 |
| DarinMiller | tsimonq2: Cool, let me know what time works for you. It's snowy here this weekend but not enough for skiing, so I whenever you a have a moment. | 02:36 |
| DarinMiller | Wow, clivejo did you sleep in today (or yesterday) or are you like me and just hate going to bed? | 02:37 |
| clivejo | just got carried away with packaging | 02:38 |
| clivejo | wxl has been working on kexi | 02:39 |
| clivejo | he added kdb to LP git, added it to KCI to build and then got kexi building using it | 02:40 |
| clivejo | that a screenshot of the application running on zesty :) | 02:40 |
| clivejo | so he should pat himself on the back | 02:41 |
| DarinMiller | Nice! | 02:41 |
| clivejo | even though KCI is reporting it as a failure, its not really | 02:41 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: have you a test machine? | 02:42 |
| DarinMiller | Yes (I have too many test machines. ) | 02:43 |
| clivejo | one you dont mind breaking? | 02:43 |
| * clivejo wishes he had that problem | 02:43 | |
| DarinMiller | I can always test, just let know. | 02:43 |
| clivejo | my poor laptop is on its last legs! | 02:43 |
| clivejo | would you do a test of KCI on zesty? | 02:44 |
| clivejo | on real hardware if possible? | 02:44 |
| DarinMiller | sure, how? | 02:44 |
| clivejo | install zesty then add the KCI PPA | 02:44 |
| valorie | did kde-runtime get fixed, clivejo? | 02:45 |
| clivejo | no | 02:45 |
| clivejo | we just removed it | 02:45 |
| valorie | I"m wondering if I should try upgrading my travel lappy to 16.10 | 02:45 |
| valorie | as it is, pretty worthless | 02:45 |
| clivejo | yakkety isnt in a good state | 02:46 |
| valorie | ok | 02:46 |
| valorie | I'm in no hurry | 02:46 |
| clivejo | were did you get up to? | 02:46 |
| clivejo | last I seen it was trying to install the KCI version, but I had deleted it from the PPA | 02:47 |
| clivejo | Rik was telling you how to downgrade it | 02:47 |
| clivejo | did that not work? | 02:47 |
| valorie | I downgraded, made no difference | 02:47 |
| valorie | etc. | 02:47 |
| valorie | lot so different tests, no difference | 02:48 |
| valorie | it never gets to SDDM, but I don't think SDDM is the problem | 02:48 |
| clivejo | did you add back the KCI PPA? | 02:48 |
| * DarinMiller feels stupid. Does not know the KCI ppa of which Clive speaks. Wonders if he means https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 02:48 | |
| clivejo | do a full upgrade | 02:48 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/ | 02:49 |
| valorie | clivejo: I tried it, then ppa-purged | 02:49 |
| valorie | no change | 02:49 |
| clivejo | try adding it back | 02:50 |
| clivejo | make sure you do an apt update | 02:50 |
| clivejo | then a full-upgrade | 02:50 |
| valorie | so it could be something else, and kci was just coincidental | 02:50 |
| valorie | I did | 02:50 |
| valorie | I was able to successfully login to windows (for the first time) so it isn't hardware | 02:50 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: usually a VERY bad idea to add this PPA | 02:50 |
| valorie | also tried previous kernels | 02:51 |
| clivejo | it will kill kittens and push your granny down the stairs given half the chance | 02:51 |
| clivejo | valorie: have you proposed or anything enabled | 02:51 |
| valorie | no, but I will when I see that folks are having good success | 02:52 |
| valorie | remember, this is just 16.04 | 02:52 |
| clivejo | yeah, its strange | 02:52 |
| valorie | very | 02:52 |
| clivejo | cause it was working with KCI enabled | 02:52 |
| valorie | fortunately, time is not of the essence | 02:53 |
| valorie | it was! | 02:53 |
| clivejo | do you remember what you did just before it broke? | 02:53 |
| valorie | no, shut it down healthy | 02:55 |
| valorie | started it up dark | 02:55 |
| valorie | we were talking about it, so I might be able to find our conversation | 02:55 |
| clivejo | can you try "sudo apt install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop" | 02:56 |
| valorie | I'm not fussed | 02:56 |
| valorie | that I didn't try | 02:56 |
| clivejo | with KCI enabled and updated | 02:56 |
| valorie | in progress | 03:00 |
| DarinMiller | wow, only 439 packages to update.... downloading now.... | 03:00 |
| valorie | 454 here | 03:00 |
| clivejo | sounds right | 03:00 |
| valorie | using my phone for internet | 03:01 |
| DarinMiller | #39 only 400 to go.... | 03:02 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: you dont have a fast connection? | 03:02 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: Friday nights are not usually fast (everyone in neighborhood probably watching netflix....) | 03:03 |
| clivejo | ah | 03:03 |
| DarinMiller | Most of the time its ok. | 03:03 |
| valorie | clivejo: what in the heck are you doing awake still? | 03:03 |
| clivejo | dunno! | 03:03 |
| valorie | 63% done | 03:03 |
| clivejo | Im in shock to be honest | 03:04 |
| DarinMiller | wow, valirie has a fast phone.... | 03:04 |
| valorie | well, I'm using it to share the network | 03:04 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: waiting up for st. Nick? | 03:04 |
| clivejo | this past few days Ive had an LTE connection on my phone | 03:04 |
| clivejo | and I dont know how or why | 03:05 |
| DarinMiller | Are you using LTE for your current internet connection? | 03:06 |
| clivejo | no | 03:06 |
| clivejo | WISP | 03:06 |
| DarinMiller | Sounds kind of light weight. | 03:06 |
| valorie | wispy | 03:06 |
| clivejo | very poor | 03:06 |
| clivejo | but billion times faster than my old internet | 03:07 |
| clivejo | down the phone line | 03:07 |
| DarinMiller | oh yes. Phone lines were painful. | 03:08 |
| clivejo | valorie: nearly there yet? | 03:09 |
| clivejo | I got rid of my phone line | 03:09 |
| valorie | 19% installed | 03:10 |
| valorie | going quickly | 03:10 |
| DarinMiller | only 47% dl'd | 03:10 |
| valorie | 56% | 03:13 |
| clivejo | 9 miles of 1960's copper cable has no chance to supporting internet, gets it tight hearing an analogue voice ! | 03:14 |
| valorie | imo it should be a responsibility of a modern government to see to it that all citizens have access to modern internet | 03:15 |
| clivejo | ha | 03:15 |
| valorie | not likely to happen here | 03:15 |
| clivejo | our government havent a clue | 03:16 |
| valorie | yet finland does | 03:16 |
| valorie | we used to be leaders | 03:16 |
| valorie | :( | 03:16 |
| valorie | 95% | 03:16 |
| clivejo | we were promised 100% broadband coverage by 2006 | 03:16 |
| DarinMiller | Must have been a politition that promised that... | 03:17 |
| clivejo | yup! | 03:17 |
| clivejo | and gave millions to BT to provide it | 03:17 |
| clivejo | and they just laughed and took the money | 03:18 |
| valorie | so I can no longer paste via the website -- how do I get the errors to pastebinit? | 03:18 |
| valorie | shortform: software-properties-kde is a depends, but not available | 03:19 |
| clivejo | !info software-properties-kde xenial | 03:19 |
| ubottu | software-properties-kde (source: software-properties): manage the repositories that you install software from (qt). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.20.4 (xenial), package size 19 kB, installed size 140 kB | 03:19 |
| clivejo | what needs that? | 03:20 |
| valorie | recommends apport-kde, apturl-kde, kubuntu-driver-manager, kubuntu-notification-helper, plasma-discover and plasma-discover-updater not going to be installed | 03:20 |
| valorie | kubuntu-desktop | 03:20 |
| valorie | when I tried to re-install | 03:20 |
| clivejo | did it finish? | 03:21 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23606322/ | 03:22 |
| DarinMiller | dl complete, installing.... | 03:22 |
| valorie | weee, figured it out | 03:22 |
| valorie | the kci/unstable went fine, no errors | 03:22 |
| clivejo | valorie: try a reboot? | 03:23 |
| * wxl has an idea | 03:24 | |
| valorie | :( | 03:24 |
| valorie | gets as far as the first glow of kubuntu, then goes dark | 03:25 |
| clivejo | must be driver related | 03:25 |
| clivejo | wxl: whats your idea? | 03:26 |
| valorie | I've never done anything special, driver-wise | 03:26 |
| DarinMiller | crashed here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23606329/ | 03:26 |
| wxl | clivejo: use default or the not default as a build depend for kexi | 03:27 |
| DarinMiller | kdepim-addon breaks kmail. | 03:27 |
| DarinMiller | running fullupgrade -f..... | 03:28 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Hai | 03:28 |
| clivejo | dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-vPOoTs/189-kmail_4%3a16.08.2+p17.04+git20161209.0651-0_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 03:28 |
| clivejo | trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kcm_kontactsummary.so', which is also in package kontact 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu2 | 03:28 |
| DarinMiller | the kmail error appeared when I tried to re-run full upgrade without -f. | 03:30 |
| wxl | dude clivejo it's past your bed time :) | 03:30 |
| clivejo | I know! | 03:30 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: is superman. He needs no sleep. | 03:30 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> NO I AM :DDD | 03:30 |
| wxl | https://media3.giphy.com/media/qgZnIUPFcS3hC/200w.gif#38 | 03:31 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Hey clivejo, where's Max? | 03:31 |
| clivejo | in bed | 03:31 |
| wxl | wait are we reading fortunes? | 03:31 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Hm? | 03:32 |
| wxl | you know | 03:32 |
| wxl | you read a fortune and then you add "in bed" | 03:32 |
| * DarinMiller is happy reboot nolonger require sudo after 14.04.... | 03:34 | |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> 😉😉😉 | 03:34 |
| wxl | for example: | 03:36 |
| wxl | http://www.fortunecookiemessage.com/cookie/8350-%3Cp%3EYou-dont-need-talent-to-gain-experience.%3C/p%3E | 03:36 |
| DarinMiller | fullupgrade -f, reboot success. | 03:36 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> <wxl> you read a fortune and then you add "in bed" | 03:38 |
| wxl | yep | 03:39 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> KDE IRC Relay Service: … <wxl> http://www.fortunecookiemessage.com/cookie/8350-%3Cp%3EYou-dont-need-talent-to-gain-experience.%3C/p%3E | 03:39 |
| wxl | your overactive imagination, tsimonq2 | 03:39 |
| wxl | i'm referring to sleeping | 03:39 |
| valorie | oh that kid reminds me of my cousin brian when we were kids | 03:39 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: can you hold on for a few minutes? | 03:39 |
| clivejo | http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kmail/ | 03:39 |
| clivejo | building a new kmail that should fix that | 03:39 |
| clivejo | but have to wait for LP to build and publish it | 03:39 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: what is kinforcenter reporting? | 03:39 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> wxl: You know it boi :D | 03:39 |
| DarinMiller | same as Neon-dev unstable: p 5.8.9, fw 5.29.0 and qt 5.7 | 03:39 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: try apt install peruse | 03:40 |
| valorie | ooooo, want | 03:41 |
| * valorie dies of jealousy | 03:41 | |
| wxl | oh you guys | 03:42 |
| DarinMiller_ | clivejo: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23606381/ | 03:43 |
| clivejo | its a comic reader! | 03:43 |
| valorie | libschroedinger! | 03:43 |
| valorie | what a great name | 03:44 |
| wxl | XD | 03:44 |
| wxl | !info libschroedinger | 03:44 |
| ubottu | Package libschroedinger does not exist in yakkety | 03:44 |
| DarinMiller | Happy holidays for Valorie! | 03:44 |
| wxl | !info libschroedinger zesty | 03:44 |
| ubottu | Package libschroedinger does not exist in zesty | 03:44 |
| wxl | boo | 03:44 |
| clivejo | !info libschroedinger-1.0-0 zesty | 03:44 |
| ubottu | libschroedinger-1.0-0 (source: schroedinger): library for encoding/decoding of Dirac video streams. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11-2.1build1 (zesty), package size 256 kB, installed size 888 kB | 03:44 |
| wxl | oh heh | 03:45 |
| wxl | video??? | 03:45 |
| valorie | I wonder why it was automatically installed? | 03:45 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: just need you to test the bejaysus outta it! | 03:45 |
| valorie | that wasn't part of the peruse install | 03:45 |
| wxl | funded by the BBC | 03:45 |
| valorie | ah | 03:46 |
| wxl | written in ANSI C | 03:46 |
| clivejo | install stuff and report any problems with package installation | 03:46 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: test peruse or zz with kci ppa (or both)? | 03:47 |
| wxl | clivejo: that kexi was the one on kci, right? you didn't try to package .91 did you? | 03:47 |
| clivejo | for some reason I didnt hit that kmail install problem | 03:47 |
| clivejo | test zz with kci# | 03:47 |
| clivejo | wxl: no, its kci | 03:47 |
| DarinMiller | the zz iso was from today, but I had run a complete update before installing the kci ppa... | 03:47 |
| wxl | clivejo: ok cool. didn't want you spoiling my fun XD | 03:47 |
| clivejo | but you did that :P | 03:48 |
| clivejo | learned a lot today me thinks! | 03:48 |
| wxl | totally! | 03:49 |
| clivejo | do you write it down, or just remember it? | 03:49 |
| wxl | i'm going to document it | 03:49 |
| * clivejo cant remember stuff at all | 03:49 | |
| wxl | i had an idea for doing a blog series on packaging | 03:49 |
| DarinMiller | wxl: awesome idea. | 03:50 |
| wxl | less of a how to | 03:50 |
| wxl | more going through examples | 03:50 |
| DarinMiller | wxl: i learn best by examples. Reading dry text man pages makes my eyes bleed and brain shutdown. | 03:51 |
| clivejo | wxl: https://packaging.neon.kde.org/applications/kmail.git/commit/?h=Neon/unstable&id=962f57d19ddbb234d1c7f05517e1d1449178220d | 03:52 |
| clivejo | dunno what to make of that! | 03:52 |
| wxl | hahah | 03:52 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: should I disable the kci ppa or leave it active for a while. It's a test box so not a big deal if it dies. | 03:52 |
| wxl | that's what we just did to ours! | 03:52 |
| wxl | except i used wildcards | 03:52 |
| wxl | except | 03:53 |
| wxl | wait | 03:53 |
| wxl | HUH | 03:53 |
| clivejo | LOL | 03:53 |
| wxl | replaces/conflicts ktnef???? | 03:53 |
| clivejo | yup | 03:53 |
| clivejo | they stuffed it all into the kmail package | 03:53 |
| clivejo | will be interesting to see how debian does it! | 03:53 |
| wxl | i think they have a separate ktnef package | 03:53 |
| wxl | s/package/repo/ | 03:54 |
| * DarinMiller is happy he knows how to finally navigate the git tree to find the control file. (small vicories). | 03:54 | |
| wxl | heheheh | 03:54 |
| wxl | good job DarinMiller :) | 03:54 |
| DarinMiller | LOL | 03:55 |
| wxl | grep Package debian/control is your friend | 03:55 |
| wxl | so is git checkout kubuntu_unstable | 03:55 |
| wxl | if i had a dollar for every time i cloned and looked at a directory listing that looks NOTHING like what i'd expect only to realize in master..... | 03:56 |
| clivejo | wxl do you use any visual aids? | 03:56 |
| DarinMiller | oh, oh , oh, I think that was my missing link when I was hunting for kdev 5.0.3 (epiphany!). | 03:56 |
| wxl | clivejo: well the prompt does have the branch in it so that helps :) | 03:57 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: can you do an apt update | 03:59 |
| clivejo | and apt upgrade | 03:59 |
| clivejo | wxl: I use this - https://github.com/jimeh/git-aware-prompt | 03:59 |
| clivejo | very handy for git work | 04:00 |
| DarinMiller_ | The following packages will be upgraded: | 04:00 |
| DarinMiller_ | kmail ktnef | 04:00 |
| clivejo | any errors? | 04:00 |
| wxl | clivejo: doing the default | not-default did the trick on kexi. you think i'm still ok to keep pushing? | 04:00 |
| DarinMiller_ | dl'ing now.... | 04:00 |
| clivejo | wxl: sure try it | 04:00 |
| DarinMiller_ | updated without issue. | 04:00 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: thumbs up | 04:01 |
| clivejo | thats the type of problems we need to catch and fix :) | 04:01 |
| DarinMiller_ | The autoflash installer is fixed now also.... | 04:01 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: how does plasma feel? | 04:02 |
| DarinMiller_ | clivejo: do you want me to leave the kci ppa enabled on the test box? I don't mind if it crash and burns.... | 04:02 |
| clivejo | 5.9 feels snappier to me | 04:02 |
| DarinMiller_ | plasma 5.9 memory footprint on this box is 135M. Not bad... at all. | 04:03 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: up to you, but every night M-F KCI rebuilds a ton of stuff, so you will have a large number of packages to download and install for very little return | 04:03 |
| wxl | ok that's ONE problem solved | 04:03 |
| clivejo | I only do an upgrade every week or so | 04:04 |
| clivejo | or if there is a new package I want to test | 04:04 |
| DarinMiller_ | wxl: what did you fix? | 04:04 |
| DarinMiller_ | clivejo: you run your main box off KCI? | 04:04 |
| * clivejo nods @ DarinMiller | 04:05 | |
| wxl | DarinMiller_: ^^ see above. there was complaints about kexi not having libmysqlclient-dev. i changed the requirement to be that OR default-libmysqlclient-dev | 04:05 |
| clivejo | I dont have the hardware or internet to run multi installs | 04:05 |
| * DarinMiller_ thinks clivejo is a crazy man (but a talented one :)) | 04:05 | |
| clivejo | and we need eyes on these too so we can catch and iron out the bugs | 04:06 |
| clivejo | yes, def crazy | 04:06 |
| clivejo | 4:06am and Im still wide awake! | 04:07 |
| DarinMiller_ | wxl: how do you know when that's "legal" | 04:07 |
| wxl | DarinMiller_: i guess it's kind of a judgement call. in this case, the two packages are exactly the same. it's a name change. so that's kind of a no brainer. | 04:08 |
| DarinMiller_ | clivejo: I had that same problem the other night but I had to work at 8:00 the next day.... | 04:08 |
| wxl | DarinMiller_: if we weren't building for anything but zesty, i wouldn't have even bothered and would have just used the current one (default) | 04:08 |
| DarinMiller_ | wxl: ack. lots of little things coming together.... fog is not as thick now.... | 04:09 |
| clivejo | right, Im gonna go to bed | 04:11 |
| clivejo | at least "try" | 04:11 |
| wxl | nite | 04:12 |
| valorie | sweet dreams, clivejo | 04:12 |
| DarinMiller | nite clivejo | 04:12 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kexi build #11: NOW UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kexi/11/ | 04:23 | |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/eoeZZ6jU/file_1342.webp | 04:23 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kexi build #15: NOW UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/15/ | 04:29 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kexi build #10: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kexi/10/ | 04:29 | |
| wxl | !info breeze-icons-rcc | 04:30 |
| ubottu | Package breeze-icons-rcc does not exist in yakkety | 04:30 |
| wxl | !info breeze-icons-rcc zesty | 04:30 |
| ubottu | Package breeze-icons-rcc does not exist in zesty | 04:30 |
| wxl | !info libkdb3-dev zesty | 04:31 |
| ubottu | Package libkdb3-dev does not exist in zesty | 04:31 |
| wxl | !info libkproperty3-dev | 04:31 |
| ubottu | Package libkproperty3-dev does not exist in yakkety | 04:31 |
| wxl | !info libkreport3-dev | 04:31 |
| ubottu | Package libkreport3-dev does not exist in yakkety | 04:31 |
| wxl | !info libkproperty3-dev zesty | 04:31 |
| ubottu | Package libkproperty3-dev does not exist in zesty | 04:31 |
| wxl | !info libkreport3-dev zesty | 04:31 |
| ubottu | Package libkreport3-dev does not exist in zesty | 04:31 |
| wxl | well there goes that ppa idea | 04:31 |
| wxl | unless i depend on kci's ppa | 04:31 |
| tsimonq2 | !info systemd | 05:00 |
| tsimonq2 | !info systemd zesty | 05:00 |
| ubottu | systemd (source: systemd): system and service manager. In component main, is important. Version 231-9ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 2268 kB, installed size 9376 kB (Only available for linux-any) | 05:00 |
| ubottu | systemd (source: systemd): system and service manager. In component main, is important. Version 232-7 (zesty), package size 2349 kB, installed size 9704 kB (Only available for linux-any) | 05:00 |
| valorie | interesting | 05:01 |
| valorie | I've not seen "is important" before | 05:02 |
| wxl | i'm ready for an upstream commit now | 05:15 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kexi build #16: FAILURE in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/16/ | 05:42 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kexi build #11: FAILURE in 26 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kexi/11/ | 05:43 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kexi build #12: FAILURE in 26 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kexi/12/ | 05:43 | |
| wxl | look what i just did https://phabricator.kde.org/D3634 | 05:59 |
| valorie | high fives, wxl! | 06:05 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kexi build #17: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/17/ | 06:06 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kexi build #13: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kexi/13/ | 06:06 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kexi build #12: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kexi/12/ | 06:06 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kexi build #14: NOW UNSTABLE in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kexi/14/ | 06:23 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kexi build #18: NOW UNSTABLE in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/18/ | 06:23 | |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kexi build #13: NOW UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kexi/13/ | 06:28 | |
| BluesKaj | howdy all | 12:05 |
| soee | hiho BluesKaj | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | hey soee_ | 12:27 |
| guysoft42 | hey all, is there a way to install plasma 5.8 on kubuntu 16.10? | 14:17 |
| soee_ | hmm | 14:18 |
| soee_ | hi guysoft42 | 14:18 |
| soee_ | acheronuk: do we have it in some ppa? | 14:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Landing, but only testing at the moment | 14:20 |
| guysoft42 | the neon PPA seems to only have 16.04 | 14:20 |
| IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> KDE Neon only supports 16.04 LTS | 14:21 |
| acheronuk | soee_: we. do but it may eat your kittena | 14:21 |
| yofel | PSA: kci is offline | 14:21 |
| acheronuk | *kittens | 14:21 |
| yofel | so I enabled backports-landing on xenial for fun | 14:23 |
| yofel | Unpacking libmarblewidget-qt5-24 (4:16.04.3-0ubuntu2~ubuntu16.04~ppa63) ... | 14:24 |
| yofel | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libmarblewidget-qt5-24_4%3a16.04.3-0ubuntu2~ubuntu16.04~ppa63_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 14:24 |
| yofel | trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmarblewidget-qt5.so.0.24.1', which is also in package libmarblewidget-qt5-23 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa50 | 14:24 |
| yofel | broken stuff on my side? | 14:24 |
| yofel | (I think) | 14:24 |
| guysoft42 | CliffordTheBigRedDoggie so is there a way to get it to work here? I actually upgraded because I was hoping for it to upgrade my KDE at the time | 14:26 |
| guysoft42 | Also who is running IrcsomeBot ? | 14:26 |
| BluesKaj | guysoft42, if you're adventurous try the staging ppas, plasma and frameworks, like so https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma | 14:27 |
| acheronuk | yofel: I've tried multiple upgrades an not had that, but I don't think I have marble installed by default. so if that happens, then that is a good catch | 14:27 |
| yofel | guysoft42: the bot is run by one in the team (it's the telegram bridge) | 14:27 |
| guysoft42 | yofel, which source? | 14:28 |
| guysoft42 | BluesKaj, I am adventurous, but this is also my main work laptop, and I don't want to brick the environment. if there is a way to roll back I am willing to try | 14:28 |
| yofel | ah wait, we switched that to the kde bot. where was that.. | 14:29 |
| BluesKaj | guysoft42, wll, then you shouldn't try unstable packages | 14:29 |
| guysoft42 | If I upgrade with that it will remove: kde-config-touchpad, kde-touchpad, kubuntu desktop, pam-wallet-init, and plasma-desktop | 14:31 |
| guysoft42 | is removing pam-wallet-init dangerous? | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | no idea, I don't use wallet | 14:31 |
| * guysoft42 tries and holds tight | 14:32 | |
| BluesKaj | why o you think you need thenew plasma anyway , there isn't a noiticeable difference | 14:32 |
| yofel | guysoft42: sorry, I can't find the repository. #kde-sysadmin should be able to tell you what's used | 14:32 |
| * guysoft42 reboots | 14:39 | |
| wxl | do we care about package-name-doesnt-match-sonames? | 14:39 |
| yofel | not for embedded libs | 14:40 |
| yofel | otherwise, yes | 14:40 |
| wxl | so kexi would be one such example, right? | 14:40 |
| wxl | i mean no package is lib-anything | 14:40 |
| yofel | yes | 14:41 |
| wxl | great thanks :) | 14:41 |
| wxl | hahahahah now i'm typing irc commands in my shell omg i swear | 14:47 |
| yofel | ok, http proxy on pond: done | 14:48 |
| yofel | and down you go | 14:51 |
| yofel | oh right, the bot needs to be set up | 14:51 |
| clivejo | want me to do that? | 14:53 |
| yofel | feel free do | 14:53 |
| yofel | *to | 14:53 |
| yofel | I'm syncing the job data over now | 14:53 |
| clivejo | all jobs copied over? | 14:53 |
| yofel | not yet | 14:53 |
| * clivejo looks for Haruld email | 14:53 | |
| yofel | maybe put those credentials in a file on the server somewhere | 14:54 |
| clivejo | have you setup a ubuntu user? | 14:55 |
| yofel | no, root has the keys | 14:55 |
| clivejo | jenkins must store the password somewhere as well | 14:57 |
| clivejo | in config file or database or something | 14:57 |
| yofel | I guess in the config file, but I didn't find it quickly | 14:57 |
| yofel | well hi :D | 15:02 |
| yofel | disabled the jenkins service on river | 15:03 |
| clivejo | put a redirection on river => pond | 15:05 |
| clivejo | ? | 15:05 |
| yofel | I'll do that later | 15:06 |
| clivejo | It appears that your reverse proxy set up is broken. | 15:06 |
| yofel | what's the error? | 15:08 |
| yofel | hm, there's things missing, right | 15:09 |
| yofel | let me just copy the config from river | 15:11 |
| yofel | even if I didn't want to use apache | 15:11 |
| clivejo | I lost connection on port 80 | 15:11 |
| yofel | right, I killed nginx | 15:12 |
| clivejo | ah | 15:12 |
| guysoft42 | BluesKaj, ok, installing staging was a BAD idea | 15:12 |
| guysoft42 | broke my plasma desktop, had to unisntall the desktop and reinstall :-( | 15:13 |
| guysoft42 | Also, checkout out this Kickoff error: http://imgur.com/a/zm5iu | 15:14 |
| * guysoft42 reboots | 15:15 | |
| yofel | clivejo: now we're running the proxy setup from river | 15:24 |
| yofel | how do I get rid of the 8080 in the lp redirect though.. | 15:24 |
| yofel | ah, that was a ci setting | 15:26 |
| clivejo | have the jobs copied yet? | 15:26 |
| yofel | no, rsync was unusable, so I just tarred everything up and am just scping things over | 15:26 |
| clivejo | ah | 15:27 |
| yofel | weird, why did rsync copy with a few kb, and scp goes with 5MB/s | 15:28 |
| yofel | stupid box on the other side of the planet | 15:28 |
| yofel | done | 15:28 |
| clivejo | how big is the tar? | 15:32 |
| yofel | 5G, xz 357M | 15:32 |
| * clivejo gulps | 15:32 | |
| yofel | clivejo: the data from river is lying in /tmp/var/ if you need something | 15:32 |
| yofel | I'll shut jenkins down for the moment | 15:32 |
| clivejo | ok | 15:33 |
| yofel | jobs copied | 15:35 |
| yofel | I also copied the tooling for the theme icons in apache. Do we need anything else? | 15:35 |
| clivejo | not that I know of | 15:36 |
| yofel | the workspace we don't need. That's slave data | 15:36 |
| yofel | ok, lets get it up again | 15:36 |
| yofel | hm, how does one do lvm swap so zabbix shuts up.. | 15:37 |
| clivejo | LOL, why do we need swap? | 15:39 |
| clivejo | Kubuntu CI NG = pond? | 15:40 |
| yofel | "so zabbix shuts up.." :P | 15:40 |
| yofel | ye | 15:40 |
| yofel | s | 15:40 |
| clivejo | morning DalekSec | 15:40 |
| clivejo | morning DarinMiller | 15:40 |
| clivejo | oupps | 15:40 |
| yofel | oops, the job page redirect still goes to river | 15:41 |
| DarinMiller | g'morning clivejo! | 15:41 |
| * clivejo loves how fast it is! | 15:42 | |
| yofel | fixed. why was that a harcoded rewrite pattern | 15:43 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: how do you guys know what to do? Does the kubuntun-automation package have a config file for kci or are you following jenkins setup docs? | 15:45 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: I don't really know what to do, its mostly yofel, but Im trying to learn! | 15:46 |
| yofel | jenkins setup docs, and we're really just moving servers. So this is mostly server host configs, not jenkins | 15:47 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: new server is here - http://kubuntu.dh.bytemark.co.uk/ | 15:48 |
| clivejo | yofel tarred up the jobs and copied them over | 15:48 |
| clivejo | so we have all the build history :) | 15:48 |
| yofel | nodes created | 15:50 |
| yofel | anything left...? | 15:50 |
| clivejo | nodes? | 15:50 |
| clivejo | oh slaves | 15:50 |
| yofel | slaves | 15:50 |
| clivejo | sorry | 15:50 |
| acheronuk | yofel: yes, but we are using a newer version of jenkins and plugins are we not? which has the potential to break what did work? | 15:50 |
| yofel | yes it has | 15:51 |
| yofel | and I'll tell you right now that mgmt_tooling is busted before even trying it | 15:51 |
| acheronuk | :/ | 15:51 |
| clivejo | yofel: will you config pond to have some executors? | 15:51 |
| yofel | ah, the matrix config needs to be changed for the slaves | 15:52 |
| yofel | clivejo: no, there's no docker setup, so that can't work. We can think about setting that up later | 15:52 |
| yofel | maybe make a container and pretty much just copy linode | 15:52 |
| clivejo | linode has plenty anyway | 15:52 |
| yofel | ok, I'm turning master on | 15:54 |
| * clivejo crosses fingers and toes | 15:54 | |
| clivejo | LOL | 15:54 |
| yofel | I know :P | 15:54 |
| yofel | next the other ones.. | 15:55 |
| clivejo | sorry laughing at Max | 15:55 |
| * BluesKaj crosses the road | 15:55 | |
| clivejo | hes just carried my old welly up to the wall and dropped it over! | 15:56 |
| yofel | ... | 15:56 |
| clivejo | and just done the same with a box! | 15:56 |
| yofel | XD | 15:56 |
| clivejo | barking | 15:56 |
| clivejo | hes trying to get my attention! | 15:57 |
| * clivejo shakes head | 15:57 | |
| clivejo | now hes circling the car! | 15:58 |
| clivejo | bad dog! | 15:58 |
| clivejo | two nodes running on your scaleway now? | 16:00 |
| * DarinMiller time for breakfast | 16:00 | |
| yofel | well, the other one was the test clone. I'll leave it there for now | 16:01 |
| guysoft42 | BluesKaj, dont tell people to install that FYI | 16:01 |
| yofel | kci.pangea.pub now 302's to kubuntu.dh.bytemark.uk | 16:01 |
| clivejo | :) | 16:02 |
| clivejo | so fast!! | 16:02 |
| * clivejo gets a tear in his eye | 16:03 | |
| BluesKaj | guysoft42, it takes more than one ppa for the 5.8 , it also requires the frameworks ppa and perhaps the misc, i wouls have mentioned it , but I was called away | 16:03 |
| yofel | now to update the tooling so things don't go boom when one tries to do an update | 16:03 |
| yofel | I'm getting the feeling that the bot isn't sending notifications though | 16:04 |
| yofel | might me the jobs not doing the right thing | 16:04 |
| yofel | *be | 16:04 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_cantor build #239: ABORTED in 7.6 sec: http://kubuntu.dh.bytemark.co.uk/job/xenial_unstable_cantor/239/ | 16:07 | |
| clivejo | ^^ working | 16:07 |
| yofel | well then | 16:07 |
| clivejo | should I ask Jon to point kci.kubuntu.co.uk to pond? | 16:09 |
| yofel | maybe rather ask him to point the old domain if clemens doesn't mind | 16:10 |
| clivejo | pangea? | 16:10 |
| yofel | yes | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | guysoft42, and I did not"tell you" to install that ppa , I merely posted the url ...the install was your choice if you felt "adventurous" | 16:10 |
| yofel | so we don't have to look through all historic notes | 16:10 |
| clivejo | reckon its safe to update those 3 plugins? | 16:11 |
| yofel | no idea | 16:12 |
| clivejo | can I try? | 16:12 |
| yofel | sec | 16:12 |
| yofel | I'm just switching rdiff-backup over, then you can try | 16:13 |
| clivejo | yofel: http://kubuntu.dh.bytemark.co.uk/administrativeMonitor/OldData/manage | 16:14 |
| yofel | CVSChangeLogParser o.O? | 16:15 |
| yofel | that's not even part of the job template | 16:15 |
| yofel | doing one last backup of river sounded like a good idea an hour ago..... | 16:22 |
| yofel | clivejo: whatever, those updates shouldn't mess anything up. | 16:29 |
| yofel | I have to leave for an hour, bbl. | 16:29 |
| guysoft42 | BluesKaj, well, now you know "adventurous" is not enough. it does not work yet | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | guysoft42, I have it working but I also used the other ppas mentioned in my post above | 16:31 |
| BluesKaj | guysoft42, , but I'm a tester, so if you're on a production machine then like most linux users you should know enough not to muck about with unofficial ppas | 16:33 |
| BluesKaj | ok, BBL , the rpi 3 needs some attention and another experimental OS is waiting in the wings | 16:43 |
| clivejo | please DONT use the staging PPA's | 16:43 |
| IrcsomeBot | * tsimonq2 moves apostrophe to "DONT" making the sentence KDE IRC Relay Service: … "<clivejo> please DON'T use the staging PPAs" | 16:45 |
| clivejo | plasma 5.8.4 should be in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports-landing | 16:45 |
| clivejo | and is still in testing | 16:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Can I stage Frameworks 5.29 yet? :D | 16:46 |
| clivejo | I was hoping to speak to santa about staging Apps | 16:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> What's the deal? | 16:47 |
| clivejo | Id like to make a start on them | 16:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> See my little explanation yesterday? Write a simple script. :) | 16:48 |
| clivejo | dont think we eve need that | 16:49 |
| tsimonq2 | How so? | 16:49 |
| clivejo | if they were staged and uploaded to staging, we'd soon find out what packages needed stuff we havent got | 16:50 |
| clivejo | in zesty | 16:50 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Then let's do what my friend Shia says. ;) | 16:51 |
| clivejo | split personality? | 16:51 |
| clivejo | is this the one who tried to kill KCI? | 16:52 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: Shush. :) | 16:54 |
| clivejo | :P | 16:54 |
| clivejo | anyways, got to go, food time | 16:55 |
| clem_l | clivejo: just a quick question | 16:55 |
| clivejo | sure | 16:55 |
| clem_l | clivejo: the CI repo, is that for a future upgrade towards Xenial or not at all? | 16:56 |
| clem_l | towards landing and then backports I mean | 16:56 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ I can explain | 16:56 |
| clivejo | more a testing platform at the moment | 16:56 |
| clem_l | ok but it highlights packaging issues which will hit us at some stage in the future right? | 16:57 |
| clivejo | yes | 16:57 |
| tsimonq2 | clem_l: If you're talking about KCI, that's our experimental testing to work on packaging etc. and to make sure it works. When it's officially released, we put it into staging-, then once it gets in devel-release archive, we put to landing, that gets about a week of testing before backports. | 16:58 |
| clivejo | and what packages will need to be upgraded for it to work | 16:58 |
| clem_l | ok | 16:58 |
| clem_l | so right now we've an update to 5.8 in landing that is almost ready | 16:59 |
| clem_l | and the next one is slowly forming in KCI? | 16:59 |
| clivejo | yes | 16:59 |
| tsimonq2 | And Frameworks and Applications. :) | 16:59 |
| tsimonq2 | clem_l: I guess so | 16:59 |
| tsimonq2 | If you want to think of it like that | 16:59 |
| tsimonq2 | It follows the master branch of all KDE repos | 16:59 |
| tsimonq2 | Making sure our packaging always builds against master | 17:00 |
| guysoft42 | BluesKaj, ive had my share of mucking about with ppas, I actually dont mind getting a build env working as long as I don't break anything , | 17:00 |
| clivejo | KCI is like a rolling version of Kubuntu | 17:00 |
| guysoft42 | BluesKaj, what other PPAs did you use? | 17:00 |
| guysoft42 | I've been using QT for stuff, and having a way to contribute would be nice | 17:00 |
| clivejo | when its working | 17:00 |
| clivejo | we are having issues in yakkety with symbols and haven't been able to get to the bottom of that yet | 17:01 |
| clem_l | I see 5.8.4 both in landing and on KCI | 17:01 |
| clem_l | but the 5.8.4 in landing is the tagged 5.8.4 right? | 17:02 |
| clem_l | whereas the one in KCI is a git master version? | 17:02 |
| clivejo | KCI versions are in flux | 17:02 |
| clivejo | don't rely on them | 17:02 |
| clivejo | they are basically latest unreleased | 17:02 |
| clem_l | which upstream Plasma version is in KCI right now? | 17:03 |
| clivejo | what will become 5.9 | 17:03 |
| clem_l | you're not sticking to 5.8 LTS? | 17:04 |
| clivejo | not in KCI | 17:04 |
| clem_l | ok, but you are in backports for xenial? | 17:04 |
| clivejo | probably | 17:05 |
| clem_l | it will depend on dependency bumps and all? | 17:05 |
| clivejo | depends on the job at hand | 17:05 |
| clem_l | ok, makes sense | 17:05 |
| clivejo | and what it needs to run | 17:05 |
| clem_l | sorry I've so many questions :) | 17:05 |
| clivejo | if it can be backported and is stable we will want to backport it | 17:05 |
| clem_l | when do you want to move 5.8 into backports? | 17:06 |
| clivejo | Im "hoping" that the ISO can be fixed in KCI | 17:07 |
| clem_l | I could only find cosmetic issues here | 17:07 |
| clivejo | when its been fully tested | 17:07 |
| clem_l | I can issue a blog post and ask people to test landing tomorrow if it helps | 17:07 |
| clivejo | I g2g now | 17:07 |
| clivejo | chat later | 17:07 |
| clem_l | ok, ttyl clivejo | 17:07 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> It would be nice to have more testers | 17:09 |
| blaze | I was testing landing last week | 17:15 |
| blaze | no issues so far | 17:16 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I've not had any issues either but I've not tried on LM though | 17:23 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Off to work | 17:47 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Working until 6:30ish PM UTC-6 | 17:47 |
| -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_krita build #29: ABORTED in 9 min 13 sec: http://kubuntu.dh.bytemark.co.uk/job/zesty_unstable_krita/29/ | 19:29 | |
| DarinMiller | ahoneybun: Which release do you feel needs more testing? | 19:44 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> On break o/ | 19:45 |
| DarinMiller | \o tsimonq2, not much happening here... | 19:47 |
| ahoneybun | DarinMiller: I'm not sure, 16.04 could use the most I think since it also effects LM 18 | 19:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> ^ | 19:48 |
| ahoneybun | also as it | 19:48 |
| ahoneybun | it's an LTS | 19:48 |
| DarinMiller | Making bootable USB now... I have not run 16.04 in quite some time as Plasma was a dual monitor disaster for that release. It will be good to test landing... | 19:52 |
| clivejo | where did you guys get up to with kdevelop | 20:05 |
| DalekSec | clivejo: Howdy. | 20:05 |
| clivejo | hi :) | 20:05 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Back on the clock soon o/ | 20:06 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: re: kdev. we never succeeded with the compiles as we were missing depends and ran out of time. | 20:08 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo: we were going to try to knock it out later this weekend pending Simon's schedule. Unfortuneatlely I am too green to undertake independently... | 20:14 |
| * clivejo yawns | 22:10 | |
| * wxl stretches | 22:49 | |
| wxl | ugh | 22:54 |
| wxl | why didn't my darn kexi push | 22:54 |
| clivejo | : | 22:54 |
| wxl | 8 hours ago | 22:55 |
| wxl | we were down then, huh? | 22:55 |
| wxl | url works | 22:55 |
| clivejo | ?? | 22:56 |
| wxl | clivejo: http://kubuntu.dh.bytemark.co.uk/job/zesty_unstable_kexi/scmPollLog/ | 22:59 |
| wxl | not such file or directory git XD | 23:00 |
| wxl | oooooops | 23:00 |
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