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| LehKeda | hey | 01:38 |
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| LehKeda | I've problem with installing ubuntu-phone after building | 01:39 |
| LehKeda | when I run this command ./rootstock-touch-install zesty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz system.img it copies for sometime then reboot to recovery | 01:39 |
| LehKeda | there is issue with this line adb push $TARPATH /recovery/ >/dev/null 2>&1 | 01:46 |
| LehKeda | anyidea ? | 01:48 |
| muka | I'm trying WifiTransfer but it doesn't work. Can not connect. I'm using nexus 4 (mako). | 03:47 |
| muka | how can I make a phone call via adb? | 04:36 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | 10:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | test link ota 14 http://google.co.uk | 10:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | xchay gnome | 10:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hmm | 10:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | http://www.google.co.uk | 10:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | i guess in chat links still not clickable then:( but one from topic opended up firefox | 10:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whats new in ota14 i dobt really see anything as such, but i read that this obe is mosyly bug fixes | 10:28 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | 12:01 |
| enthusi_ | Hi | 12:10 |
| enthusi_ | are people in here using Ubuntu phones? | 12:10 |
| enthusi_ | I am currently on a Samsug S3 mini and need a change | 12:11 |
| enthusi_ | it seems no such ubuntu phones are readily available these days in DE? | 12:11 |
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| OerHeks | enthusi, see the topic / devices if yours is supported, i think it is not. | 12:15 |
| enthusi | yes, none of those but I consider buying one specifically | 12:16 |
| enthusi | but I have no clue which | 12:16 |
| enthusi | a ready made ubuntu phone would have been nice but those are sold it it seems | 12:16 |
| enthusi | but development is active? its not a sinking ship so to speak? :) | 12:17 |
| OerHeks | enthusi, development is active, but growing slow. | 12:19 |
| enthusi | yeah, unfortunately | 12:21 |
| enthusi | people will shy away because there is no WhatsApp already :) | 12:21 |
| enthusi | *sugh* | 12:21 |
| enthusi | sigh | 12:22 |
| enthusi | do you use it? on what phone if I may ask? | 12:22 |
| enthusi | any brand/device you would recommend? | 12:22 |
| OerHeks | enthusi, i know, whatsapp and facebook are a * must* .. no, i don't have a capable ubuntu-phone :-( | 12:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | enthusi, I have ubuntu phones | 12:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | enthusi, plus another type of Linux based phone, that oh can actsually run whatsapp as well | 12:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc | 12:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | actaully make that two for ones that can actsaully run whatsapp but not tried on either | 12:38 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so why did i lose the background it changed to on ota 14 update on mx 4 | 13:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | when I put a background | 13:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for log in screen | 13:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | changed to a more yellowey one, but then lost that | 13:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and no it's not there as an option in background images | 13:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | shame since that was also the like only thing i noticed that was new | 13:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | mx 4 had gone from ota 12 to 14 | 13:42 |
| pgp | hello everybody | 13:59 |
| pgp | did someone tried to install ota14 on meizu mx6? | 14:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | pgp, no don't think so | 14:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | pgp, and that was just a remour or an apparnatly that they would release a mx 6 ubuntu | 14:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe next year i guess | 14:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | when already an old phon | 14:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | e | 14:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | pgp, maybe the software for putting Ubuntu onto a Meizu MX 4 Android,would mostly work with a MX 6 as well, or just brick the phone | 14:03 |
| pgp | ok thank you! SebthreeBQM10HD | 15:08 |
| erik__ | hello | 15:24 |
| erik__ | how can i sync my device on debian? | 15:26 |
| erik__ | anybody here? | 15:30 |
| erik__ | hmm, bots only discussion ... | 15:40 |
| erik__ | bye | 15:40 |
| muka | erik__, I use ssh and copy ~ dir | 15:43 |
| Acou_Bass | i just run syncthing binary | 15:46 |
| Acou_Bass | XD | 15:46 |
| Acou_Bass | obviouslydont leave it running all day, just get home, plug phone in to charge, fire up syncthing | 15:46 |
| Acou_Bass | leave for 10 minutes, come back its usually done | 15:46 |
| Acou_Bass | SebthreeBQM10HD: out of curiosity, which linuxey phones do you have that can run whatsapp? | 15:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, the Jolla phone and Samsuing Z1 so the Tizen phone | 15:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not tried on either though yet! | 15:57 |
| Acou_Bass | ahh i loved sailfishOS, probably my favourite mobile OS yet | 15:57 |
| Acou_Bass | not tried tizen yet ;( | 15:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, yeah salifish can run most andorid apps | 15:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | same for tizen I guess | 15:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so sa far as i Know whatsapp should be fine on those | 15:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or fine enough | 15:57 |
| Acou_Bass | i used it on a nexus so no alien-dalvik for me but aside from that it was a really nice OS hehe | 15:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yep, but many will use it fr andrid apps or mostly rather than native | 15:58 |
| Acou_Bass | i never used android anyway so i dont really miss android apps | 15:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh what did you use then? | 15:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | android has always annyed me since adverts :d | 15:58 |
| Acou_Bass | my first smartphone was an n900 | 15:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | install some android apps and bang adverts | 15:58 |
| Acou_Bass | after that i went to a firefoxOS phone | 15:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not neassiary androids fualt but yeah | 15:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yes I got a firefox os phone as well | 15:59 |
| Acou_Bass | then once firefoxOS died i bought a nexus 4 and since then ive been switching between sailfish + ubuntu XD | 15:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I been meaning t possibly buy a nexus 4 from some where | 15:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so can change around oses eaisesr | 15:59 |
| Acou_Bass | weirdly theres a (very unofficial, VERY VERY BUGGY) version of sailfishOS for my firefoxOS phone too so i played around on that a bit before i jumped to the nexus | 16:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh is there? | 16:00 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah ZTE open C | 16:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I got the Alcatel something | 16:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, is that the ZTE maybe that they sold directly on ebay ? | 16:01 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah it is | 16:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh missed out on that | 16:01 |
| Acou_Bass | or was :P | 16:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | didn't know at the time etc | 16:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | back then would have thought they just sold in Afria or whatever and that was that | 16:02 |
| Acou_Bass | i followed firefoxOS with interest so when my n900 borked (i did the typical yank the USB socket too hard..) it was prmetime to jump ship to firefox | 16:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, anyway Tizen you can have that, just buy it directly from India or something, like I did :) | 16:02 |
| Acou_Bass | hehe | 16:02 |
| Acou_Bass | how is tizen though? whats app selection like | 16:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I followed it here and there to | 16:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or kind of | 16:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | boot 2 geck then changed to firefox os | 16:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I Guess not enough | 16:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, seems I haven't been following Jolla / Salifish OS enough this year as well as I found out in October! | 16:02 |
| Acou_Bass | is tizen still EFL-based? | 16:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Tizen is very much like Samsungs Android interface | 16:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | you would notice very little differnece, from what I Have seen | 16:03 |
| Acou_Bass | ahh | 16:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | on smart watches it has a diffenret interface though | 16:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they even had a stand at FOSDEM this year that I was at for a bit | 16:03 |
| Acou_Bass | funn | 16:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, then to install Android apps, you need well first to be logged into your samsung account to use the phone | 16:04 |
| Acou_Bass | i really think that was firefoxOS's advantage really, they basically jumped onto a platform with 10000 ready-made 'apps' already made for them XD | 16:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then you can download an app for running android apps | 16:04 |
| Acou_Bass | ahhh cool | 16:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and that app must be installed to run android apps | 16:04 |
| Acou_Bass | with a non-jolla phone its a similar thing on sailfish | 16:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | salifish they have android app support | 16:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | dont' need to add anything extra | 16:05 |
| Acou_Bass | because you cant get the jolla dalvik thing on non-jolla phones youve gotta use some weird hacky 3rd-party method | 16:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe not sure | 16:05 |
| Acou_Bass | it is true of the nexus at least hehe | 16:05 |
| Acou_Bass | its some licensing issue they have, theyre only licensed to release their dalvik thing on their own devices | 16:05 |
| Acou_Bass | so 3rd-party ports dont get it | 16:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, well I read about a index intex whatever the company called | 16:06 |
| Acou_Bass | so of course the community hacked their own thing together | 16:06 |
| Acou_Bass | oh yeah i saw that | 16:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, Salifhs OS phone that would be sold in India in the summer | 16:06 |
| Acou_Bass | aquafish or something | 16:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yep that's the one | 16:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | aquafish | 16:06 |
| Acou_Bass | the one that had a controversial 3rd page for ads basically :D | 16:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | nice newer hardware specs etc :) | 16:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I mean the jolla phone is alright, but the hardware was already old really, wehn I got mine like three years or so ago | 16:06 |
| Acou_Bass | sailfish doesnt really need newer hardware specs TBH - i found it ran like silk on my nexus 4 | 16:06 |
| Acou_Bass | must be a super lightweight OS | 16:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | indeed tjolla phone is basic hardware | 16:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, anyway turns out there was a Jolla C phone as well that I missed it seems hmm | 16:07 |
| Acou_Bass | yeahh | 16:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, there's a guy all into Jolla from around here, well he works for them | 16:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, he ports the OS to other devices etc | 16:07 |
| Acou_Bass | im just not sure on jolla's future :( they seem to be going down the shitter which is a huge shame | 16:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, so I was doing an event in october | 16:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for Linux Presentation Day :0 | 16:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | :) | 16:08 |
| Acou_Bass | hehe | 16:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but wanted to do mobile as well, not just desktop stuff | 16:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | wanted to creative common stuff to make more intersgin to hoefpully to public as well | 16:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | background music, open movies | 16:08 |
| erik__ | hello again | 16:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | some graphics | 16:08 |
| Acou_Bass | yeahh | 16:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so yeah did all that | 16:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, and got in contact with the guy, and yes he could come along :) | 16:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | had mett him about a year or two before at my LUG, and nearly did for a FOSDEM to, but nop9e | 16:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so he meniotend some jolla c in a email wehn I asked what he could bring | 16:09 |
| Acou_Bass | theres a LUG in my city but i havent been able to go yet... maybe in the new year | 16:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, but the aquafish has pretty much the same specs according to another guy | 16:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, where is your city ? | 16:10 |
| Acou_Bass | manchester UK hehe | 16:10 |
| Acou_Bass | manlug :D | 16:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I got my jolla on a old version of salifhs still as well since... | 16:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | may keep it so | 16:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for ages | 16:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | like I am doing with one of my ubuntu phones | 16:10 |
| Acou_Bass | oh? whys that | 16:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | can show people the past and thep resent then , the changes a bit as well at times if doing that | 16:10 |
| Acou_Bass | ahhh true | 16:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, since I thought it might have swapped with that guys jolla phone, that was partly it | 16:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but then didn't do much with it | 16:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I had to factory re set before all that to | 16:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then you get other devices and what not as well | 16:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I think Salifish OS can currently do a load more than say Ubuntu Touch, with it's ANdroid support | 16:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | app support, but | 16:11 |
| Acou_Bass | yepp right now it can (and its native apps for the most part are a hell of a lot better too) | 16:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I am more interested in Ubuntu Touch really, where things seem to be going etc | 16:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it's taking time, but yeah | 16:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Ubuntu touch will merge into Ubuntu personal to etc | 16:12 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah thats sort of my take on it too - *right now* sailfish is the better OS - but it seems to have stagnated whereas ubuntu touch is going places :D | 16:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | same interface Unity 8 and code base with everything with a screen etc. libertine working nicely on the desktop to for older xorg stuff, not just phone and tablet etc | 16:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, you could say Android is the better OS right now even, if you want loads of those apps | 16:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and such | 16:13 |
| erik__ | UT upgrade (13 to 14) isn't working with twrp on the device. why does the upgrade need access to the recovery? | 16:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, or Remix OS based on it | 16:13 |
| Acou_Bass | i dont think libertine is going to be around much longer to be honest... once click packages come to the phone there wont really be any need for libertine XD | 16:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but Ubuntu touch is the one that weill interesting stuff is going to happen to it for sure | 16:13 |
| Acou_Bass | clicks should support Xmir transparently | 16:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in the next two years or so it seems | 16:13 |
| Acou_Bass | at least thats what i was told in here last time i asked about it | 16:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, not everything will be ported to whatever though | 16:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, so for running older programs, libertine has it's use | 16:13 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah i suppose anything that people dont make snaps for (i meant snaps, not clicks) XD | 16:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I am in Engalnd to by the way | 16:14 |
| Acou_Bass | ooh? whereabouts | 16:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | near Bristol | 16:14 |
| Acou_Bass | ahhh nice ;D | 16:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, so we had a Bristol Linux Presetation Day event in October of this year | 16:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, the 3rd UK LUG to have one, the 3rd group in general | 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, now this is a nice idea http://linux-presentation-day.org | 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I intend to organise two more next year as well | 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it's meant to be two per year really for each group | 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh sure there have been similar things like that before, but not quite ike that | 16:15 |
| Acou_Bass | ahhh thats awesome | 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | seems it's going to a bit more global next time as well | 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not just euroope :) | 16:16 |
| Acou_Bass | so like a cross-country 'LUG' for doing presentations | 16:16 |
| Acou_Bass | sweet | 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, no it's a way to show the pubic linux | 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | get them into it etc | 16:16 |
| Acou_Bass | well yeah | 16:16 |
| Acou_Bass | but its sort of like an event except lots of them at once.. sort of? XD | 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, but desktop linux wel lwe know it's good but | 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, but mobile is where it's at a lot now | 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | desktop comput8ing uhmm not used as much by pe9ple in general | 16:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and Windows 10 kind of works or enough hmm | 16:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and Macs to so | 16:17 |
| Acou_Bass | youd be surprised... desktops arent as dead as people think XD and especially not laptops | 16:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, well peole sito n the us iwth phones and such | 16:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not lap tops now or rarely | 16:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, many home users rarely use lap tops or desktops now, since mobile phones etc | 16:18 |
| Acou_Bass | ehh i suppose | 16:18 |
| Acou_Bass | everyone in my house has a laptop each XD | 16:18 |
| Acou_Bass | and we are not geeks ;p | 16:18 |
| Acou_Bass | well i am | 16:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, what Canonicala re trying to do with convergne is good | 16:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ,but | 16:18 |
| Acou_Bass | but mum and dad arent :D | 16:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, how old are you? | 16:19 |
| Acou_Bass | mid-20s ;D | 16:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but not every9one will want the same interface on everything etc | 16:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, ok late 20's for me | 16:19 |
| Acou_Bass | from what ive seen with my parents, having the same interface on everything is a good thing... my mum can switch between her phone and tablet without even thinking about it because android is android | 16:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I think how Ubuntu Touch or perosnal whatever | 16:20 |
| Acou_Bass | and she runs gnome on her laptop so its almost similar | 16:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, will be able to run lots of standard xorg programs is a good thing right there | 16:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and easilly, in a graph8ical way, so not there yet | 16:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, lots of great quality standard linux programs :) | 16:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | over 20 years wroth really I guess | 16:21 |
| Acou_Bass | like i reckon snaps should be able to sort that as long as X apps are made into snaps, but for joe average they probably wont even need to use them if there are enough 'native' touch/convergence apps made | 16:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, however bare in mind, that most of that will not be ported over to mir or wayland, so yeah libertine has it's purpoouse still | 16:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and xmir | 16:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and yeah | 16:21 |
| Acou_Bass | have you ever used gnome on wayland? 'legacy' applications is completely transparent, you dont even know about it | 16:22 |
| Acou_Bass | firefox just works without a hitch | 16:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, anyway using having a ubuntu phone or tablet is nice, since it's like a glimpse, a preview of the feuture, what's to come, waht's to come, or kind of thing that is to come, to the desktop as well, etc | 16:22 |
| Acou_Bass | wayland is there already, mir isnt sadly, but it will be :D | 16:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | nope not used gnome on wayland, but yes that's how it's meant to be, meant to just work, as long as the graphics card can support it | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | otherwise with say fedora 25 they get xorg instead | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I read | 16:23 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah they do | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | mir is thighed to Ubuntu | 16:23 |
| Acou_Bass | but yepp, wayland with gnome just works even with Xorg apps | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no one else wants otu se mir really | 16:23 |
| Acou_Bass | theyre right there in the applications menuw here they belong | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | did read a nice blog post about mir, and how it could be used by others | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | from soimeone from Canonical i think it was | 16:23 |
| Acou_Bass | yah | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but pretty much every other distro will go Wayland not Mir | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they also won't go Unity 8 | 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or any tiime soon | 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | technical and political reasons | 16:24 |
| Acou_Bass | meh im fine with that | 16:24 |
| Acou_Bass | let canonical do their own thing | 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I am thinking that to reallly | 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | plus I lik new stuff | 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that can seeen etc | 16:24 |
| Acou_Bass | my theory is | 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | other distros aren't really inovating much like that now so | 16:24 |
| Acou_Bass | rather tan us all just going to wayland mindlessly | 16:24 |
| Acou_Bass | we get TWO great new display serves | 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since they all tend to use pretty much the same thing from upstream so | 16:24 |
| Acou_Bass | and the best one will win ;D | 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with therir branding changeing and such and that's about it | 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, no I think choice is good ;) | 16:25 |
| Acou_Bass | if wayland crashes and burns we can all jump ship to mir and port our other DE's to it | 16:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, imagine going to the sweet shop, and all you had, was a Mars bar and a Twixx, how boring ? | 16:25 |
| Acou_Bass | if mir crashes and burns we can all jump to wayland | 16:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, altough on the subject of eating things, there should probably be much less meaty choices, or at a higher price :d, but that's another topic | 16:26 |
| Acou_Bass | i dont thinkmany chocolate bars contain meat anyway | 16:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, they don't, but some will contain gelatine, not what I was getting into though | 16:26 |
| Acou_Bass | XD | 16:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, meat in general, seems to be cheaper than vegetarian or vegan food at times, that's wrong! | 16:27 |
| * SebthreeBQM10HD went veggie for ethical moral reasons :d | 16:27 | |
| Acou_Bass | yeah well we all have our moral passions, i personally wont use motor vehicles xD but thats just me | 16:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what you don't go in cars ? | 16:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or buses ? | 16:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or planes ? | 16:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or trains | 16:28 |
| Acou_Bass | definitely not cars if i can help it (im not saying i NEVER will, but i wont drive one and will avoid when possible) | 16:28 |
| Acou_Bass | XD | 16:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whys that ? | 16:28 |
| Acou_Bass | because theyre RIDICULOUSLY dangerous for a start | 16:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | why you think that? | 16:28 |
| Acou_Bass | motor crashes account for nearly all of human deaths (its basically the only un-natural cause of death in the top 5 causes of human deaths...) | 16:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | uh my older brother just went some whre he could have walked easy, in the car | 16:29 |
| Acou_Bass | y'know behind things like heart disease and certain cancers | 16:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, are you a guy or girl :d ? | 16:30 |
| Acou_Bass | i genuinely believe 'car culture' is probably the worst thing to have happened in our modern times, its absolutely terrible | 16:30 |
| Acou_Bass | im a guy | 16:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not a worrying girl, oh h eh :D | 16:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, cars pollut the world | 16:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, it sucks how to do something more proper, usaully havev to travel miles to | 16:30 |
| Acou_Bass | honestly the pollution is terrible, yes, but the cultural affects IMO are just as bad | 16:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since how the world is set up | 16:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the cultural effects such as? | 16:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and certain people would say tech in genera l is bad, so computers etc to | 16:31 |
| Acou_Bass | like i said, thousands of people dying all the time from motor crashes and the rest of the world just shrugging their shoulders going 'oh well, cars are good' | 16:31 |
| Acou_Bass | the fact that our cities are built for cars with only a tiny amount of space in the city for other things | 16:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I don't live in a city :) | 16:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yeah manchester willl be busy | 16:32 |
| Acou_Bass | cars make people lazy | 16:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they do yes | 16:32 |
| Acou_Bass | its the spacing thing, and the people dying all the time thing that bothers me most | 16:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | its annoying how go to travel for miles for lots of things | 16:32 |
| Acou_Bass | and instead of actually tackling the problem of cars being dangerous, they tell other members of the public to wear stupid clothing so car drivers can see them better | 16:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so transport | 16:32 |
| Acou_Bass | as though thatll fix anything | 16:33 |
| Acou_Bass | its disgusting and it wont change until our govt sees the problem and makes changes to our infrastructure to prevent it | 16:33 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, sure it will :d a nice multi coloured Ubuntu top of some sort | 16:33 |
| Acou_Bass | XD | 16:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, with a nice orange Ubuntu cap as well :d | 16:34 |
| Acou_Bass | i have an arch linux cycling shirt, does that count? | 16:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe | 16:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I have lots of geek t-shirts now | 16:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since done FOSEM the last six years | 16:34 |
| Acou_Bass | i hardly have any, i need to pad my wardrobe out a bit with them | 16:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh and OGG Camp to, wasn't one this year | 16:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since 2012 for both events | 16:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, intending on going again in Feburaruy, but wil lbe diffenret | 16:35 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, the project I been invovled with here and there, won't have a stand this time, etc | 16:35 |
| Acou_Bass | where is it? | 16:35 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Brussels | 16:35 |
| Acou_Bass | ahhh | 16:35 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or near | 16:35 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, it's the llike best open source event in Europe though, or pretty much | 16:36 |
| Acou_Bass | yeahh | 16:36 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I even got to meet and chat to and shake hands with Mark Shuttleworth briefly there this year :) | 16:36 |
| Acou_Bass | did you show him your ubuntu phone, and make sure hes got one too? | 16:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, h eh no | 16:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, it was after a talk, some guy kept on answering questions inside of speaker | 16:37 |
| Acou_Bass | ahh | 16:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then it clicked, oh yeah I recognise that voice, ah right of course it's | 16:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I had already mettt Richard Stallman for eaxmple and chatted to breifly etc | 16:37 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | tried to get his signature in not a great way actsaully h e h | 16:38 |
| Acou_Bass | 0,o | 16:38 |
| Acou_Bass | whatd you do | 16:38 |
| Acou_Bass | hand him a macbook? | 16:38 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | h eh no | 16:38 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | anyway so Mark ok :) | 16:38 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | some other guy went to mark first I think first, same kind of reason | 16:38 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, but yeah you get to meet some of these interesting peopple at events etc | 16:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Stallman was a specfic talk though that happended in Bath | 16:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | two hours of him chatting | 16:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | non stop except water brakes and such | 16:39 |
| Acou_Bass | did he do Q&A or anything? | 16:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | at the end a bit I think so | 16:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | stallman | 16:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yes he did | 16:40 |
| Acou_Bass | i really think the Q&A format lends itself better for people like stallman who are maybe seen as a bit radical | 16:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | soemone asked him a question to do with the bsd slisnce | 16:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and if htat was ok enough to use or not in certain situations | 16:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, Stallman is ok | 16:41 |
| Acou_Bass | oh yeah im not saying he isnt :D but y'know to the general public they might see his ideas as crazy, and so a Q&A i think is better for that sort of thing | 16:42 |
| Acou_Bass | rather than him just preaching to a crowd | 16:42 |
| Acou_Bass | get people to really see how his ideals affect them | 16:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, yes he comes across a bitt crazzy to many it seems, but eh | 16:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, people don't genrally care enough about tech, just want to use something that works etc | 16:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I remember reading the GNU philospey at 17 | 16:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | thinking like yes | 16:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yes this makes sense | 16:43 |
| Acou_Bass | you dont have to convince me of that, i run fully-free distros on my machines except for my PC and my ubuntu phone XD | 16:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and agreeing to most things I had read as well | 16:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, well ther eisn't really a ethical phone os in that sense or enough? | 16:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well there's like a android altenriav thing | 16:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or based | 16:44 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah | 16:44 |
| Acou_Bass | replicant | 16:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | repicant yeah | 16:44 |
| Acou_Bass | but even then youre using the baseband blobs | 16:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and there are ubuntu veriosns without the stuff to | 16:44 |
| Acou_Bass | but i suppose thats no different to the nonfree BIOS's | 16:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and to connect to a network you use non free software | 16:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not much choice there it seems | 16:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, not may change bios | 16:45 |
| Acou_Bass | my laptop just works with linux-libre, even though its not advertised as such XD i reckon most people would be in a similar boat if they tried it | 16:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | linux libre as in a general terem ? | 16:45 |
| Acou_Bass | no linux-libre is a build of the linux kernel with zero proprietary blobs in it | 16:45 |
| Acou_Bass | it ships on fully-free FSF-approved distros hehe | 16:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh and sofftware freedom activist :d Acou_Bass Ubuntu phone you said! right BAD BOY! that's not free enough and will tigh people into Canonical | 16:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | h eh | 16:46 |
| Acou_Bass | meh, its better than android :D | 16:46 |
| Acou_Bass | and sailfishOS is very proprietary too | 16:46 |
| Acou_Bass | most of the top layer is proprietary | 16:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yes so people say | 16:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that salifish os is actaully quite propritary | 16:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but hey it's linux based and nice os | 16:47 |
| Acou_Bass | the day i can run guixSd on my phone i can die happy | 16:47 |
| Acou_Bass | thatd be amazing | 16:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I genreallly prefer to use free software, but will use what works to | 16:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, what annoys me a bit is the whole people who think they need Microsoft OFfice, when don't really | 16:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, or Adoboe photoshop | 16:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or that LInux sucks really since propritary gaming that a bit to | 16:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, oh and my Ubuntu tablet can run Libre Office :) | 16:48 |
| Acou_Bass | games are a tricky one to work around... you cant exactly just make a FOSS alternative to call of duty or GTA5 and expect people to switch to it, they expect the real thing hehe | 16:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, it's nice having a stand to help out at FOSDEM, when don't want to go to to many talks | 16:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, but the distro I been invovled wiht didn't get accepted this year as a stand | 16:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so many projects want a stand at FOSDEM you see | 16:49 |
| Acou_Bass | i can imagine :O | 16:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | double then they can havev | 16:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I think tehy are trying to let projects in that are enwer more now, or had a break | 16:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I see BSD is back for example | 16:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, this is reminding me, but might seei if I can help at the libre office stand maybe :d | 16:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, might bring my Ubuntu tablet along to, so can show people it running libre office :d | 16:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | got a contact there or kind of thing | 16:50 |
| Acou_Bass | if theres a guixSD stand say hi to those folks :D their distro is amazing | 16:50 |
| Acou_Bass | or the nixos :D | 16:50 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | pluss it looked llike a fun one to help out the last few years | 16:50 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, nixos maybe, guixSD no | 16:50 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, Libre OFfice people are great, I been sent stuff twice now :) for events I had here | 16:50 |
| Acou_Bass | hehe | 16:50 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for free | 16:50 |
| Acou_Bass | whats wrong with guix ;D | 16:51 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, ok I didn't ask for anythig to major like t-shirts, but yes i got more than just stickers and flyers last time so October :) | 16:51 |
| Acou_Bass | XD awesome | 16:51 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | document foundation pin badges in a bag | 16:51 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and ballons as well :) | 16:51 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | didn't end up using hte ballons, but next time will use some | 16:51 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, green libre office ballons with a free pump as well | 16:51 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | a blue free pump | 16:52 |
| Acou_Bass | XD | 16:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, there were some issues at the begning of the event etc, so dind't really have time to pump up ballons | 16:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but next time well :) I guess | 16:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, may be worth bringin tablet along to show stuff like libe office | 16:53 |
| Acou_Bass | i do want to attend events like this at some point, just not sure if/when ill be able to make my way to them | 16:53 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I mean even at FOSDEM, not that many people will have sen it on an Ubuntu tablet for real I expect so | 16:53 |
| Acou_Bass | get a nexus 4 and get ubuntu on it, then you can show it on a PHONE:D | 16:53 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's not the commerical phone though | 16:54 |
| Acou_Bass | hehe true | 16:54 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, but annoying would hae to take tablet out at air port | 16:54 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | security | 16:54 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they want those out | 16:54 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ! | 16:54 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, plus then do I bother with a bue too thekbyarod with my stand thing or not uh probaboy fi taking it, which one.... you get a load of extra stuff back with | 16:54 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so don't want to go with too much as well | 16:55 |
| Acou_Bass | XD | 16:55 |
| Acou_Bass | true | 16:55 |
| Acou_Bass | tablets ae good for that | 16:55 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | plus got a gaming tablet device thing to take iwth | 16:55 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe two een | 16:55 |
| Acou_Bass | all in one neat little package | 16:55 |
| Acou_Bass | alrighty back later, time to eat :D (and cook me a pecan pie for our baking competition next week) WOO | 16:55 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, I am more a marketing person | 16:55 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, promotion | 16:55 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, a baking competion oh ? | 16:56 |
| OerHeks | A pie should not survive 7 days | 16:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | OerHeks, yeah true I guess | 16:57 |
| Acou_Bass | OerHeks: well the competition is tomorrow | 17:13 |
| Acou_Bass | yes my work is having a 'great british bake-off' competition | 17:13 |
| Acou_Bass | :P | 17:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whaat is your work | 17:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ? | 17:14 |
| Acou_Bass | i work at the head office of a sports fashion retailer hehe, not remotely IT-related | 17:14 |
| Acou_Bass | :D | 17:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, Sports Direct | 17:14 |
| Acou_Bass | no, jd sports SebthreeBQM10HD | 17:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, oh that branded one hmm | 17:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Acou_Bass, but you shoudn't work there, since msot of their customers will come by motor vechiles :d | 17:43 |
| LehKeda | can i edit rootstock-touch-install script to fit on my device ? | 18:23 |
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| Acou_Bass | SebthreeBQM10HD: i dont work on the JD sports part i work on their outdoors divison ;) all tents and bikes and walking gear ;D | 20:01 |
| LehKeda | the phone stuck at bootlogo , is there any thing I can do ? | 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | lenikeda | 20:38 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | lenkeds | 20:38 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | lenkeda when which phone | 20:38 |
| LehKeda | I'm porting to new device called samsung galaxy star | 20:39 |
| LehKeda | I'm making a new build now with some kernel changes | 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh a port | 20:40 |
| LehKeda | is ubuntu recovery is required ? I'm using twrp3.0.2 | 20:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well yeah things are likely to go wrong on any port | 20:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | there's like one guy doing ubuntu ports | 20:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ubports | 20:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but I think most of us won't know much about porting, but could be wrong | 20:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | anyway I can't help you much either way | 20:41 |
| LehKeda | ok , what about recovery ? | 20:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | you need developer mode to do ports | 20:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I think | 20:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | if that's what you mean | 20:42 |
| LehKeda | i mean must i use ubuntu recovery.img to get ubuntu working or any recovery will work ? | 20:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what's the recoveyry image ? | 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and I guess that's the thing to try | 20:43 |
| LehKeda | afetr building ubuntu phone there are some .img files one of them is recovery.img that's what get loaded when you enter recovery mode | 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | try tht i don't know though | 20:45 |
| LehKeda | ok | 20:45 |
| Errmake | hey guys i'm doing a project based on ubuntu touch,I can't find anywhere how ubuntu touch manages processes,energy,storage... | 21:31 |
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