[05:59] <hikiko> hi
[06:01] <duflu> Morning hikiko
[06:03] <hikiko> hi duflu :-)
[07:21] <pitti> Good morning
[08:10] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:11] <didrocks> re seb128
[08:11] <seb128> re didrocks ;-)
[08:55] <willcooke> morning all
[08:59] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you?
[08:59] <didrocks> good morning willcooke
[09:00] <willcooke> hey seb128 didrocks
[09:03] <Laney> doh
[09:03] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:03] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:04] <seb128> why that doh?
[09:04] <Laney> 12/12 09:04:10 Irssi uptime: 0d 0h 1m 0s
[09:04] <seb128> oh
[09:04] <Laney> my connection to the matrix was terminated!
[09:04] <seb128> I didn't even notice you just joined
[09:04] <seb128> having a fresh monday start then :-)
[09:06] <Laney> /o\
[09:06] <Laney> anyway
[09:06] <Laney> hi seb128 and hi didrocks!
[09:06] <seb128> had a good w.e Laney?
[09:06] <Laney> yep
[09:07] <Laney> we got a holiday apartment in the peak district with some friends
[09:07] <Laney> did some exploring / pubs / walking
[09:07] <seb128> nice
[09:08] <Laney> went to a christmas open mic at the pub back here after we got back
[09:08] <Laney> zzzzzz
[09:08] <Laney> but feeling christmassy now!
[09:08] <Laney> what about you?
[09:09] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:09] <seb128> hey davmor2
[09:10]  * Laney nods davmor2 
[09:10] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:11] <seb128> Laney, w.e was good, they had a special afternoon on saturday at the tennis club with mixed groups to play double, which was fun, otherwise some shopping, some relaxing and yesterday helped a friend with moving some boxes to her new appartement
[09:12] <davmor2> Laney: it goes well, you?
[09:12] <Laney> seb128: got the christmas tree up? ;-)
[09:13] <Laney> davmor2: pretty good, only 2 more days before I'm off \o/
[09:13] <davmor2> Laney: Shocking
[09:13] <seb128> Laney, yes! in fact we did it a week ago ;-)
[09:13] <seb128> you?
[09:13] <Laney> nice
[09:13] <davmor2> Laney: I used most of my holiday up this year taking other people to the hospital :(
[09:13] <Laney> i didn't get one yet
[09:14] <Laney> will do on weds probably
[09:14] <Laney> davmor2: :(
[09:14] <Laney> hope you can use this last bit on eggnog
[09:15] <davmor2> Laney: I got a darthvader coffee mug all is well :)
[09:18] <Laney> nice
[09:19]  * Laney has tea in a Pooh one atm
[09:44] <Laney> back in a few minutes
[09:45] <flexiondotorg> Ooops, completely forget to stop by here and wish all you desktopers a "Good morning"
[09:53] <xnox> willcooke, i take that as a mandate =)
[09:53] <willcooke> xnox, :D  Thanks!  Let me know when you're finished
[09:54] <xnox> willcooke, note that e.g. unity-scope-click does debs,clicks,snaps it seems to me, hence the name of the package is a bit confusing.
[09:55] <willcooke> yeah
[09:56] <willcooke> d_obey was working on that, it could certainly do with a rename at some point soon
[09:57] <davmor2> willcooke, xnox: isn't it all in app drawer now ;)
[09:58] <willcooke> good point
[10:08] <xnox> davmor2, i guess it should be. But that's not what I saw in zesty a week ago.
[10:08] <xnox> davmor2, i still had click scope seeded; no clicks installed (this is desktop session); yet removing unity-scope-click removed the only way i could see to launch the couple of the stock / legacy apps.
[10:09] <xnox> willcooke, davmor2: if drawer works, can I unseed unity-scope-click from the session in zesty?
[10:09] <davmor2> xnox: not until it lands
[10:09] <xnox> doh
[10:09] <seb128> what is drawer?
[10:14] <xnox> davmor2, so workitem: land drawer to superseed unity-scope-click, as the universal launcher of all the things?
[10:14] <xnox> seb128, i think it's a windows start button to replace Typhoon with big fat orange button.
[10:15] <xnox> (from the devices call this morning? although i was very late for that, was having a bit of a battle with the bluejeans)
[10:16] <seb128> hum, k, no idea was "typhoon" is either but I'm going to stop asking, just check that you don't regress on something which was working before unseeding a component
[10:17] <willcooke> seb128, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkFqM79rCno
[10:18] <seb128> willcooke, thanks
[10:18] <seb128> is that meant to replace the scope?
[10:18] <seb128> the video has one on top of the other
[10:19] <willcooke> I think on the desktop it will act as a new dash and scopes will become just another app
[10:24] <seb128> k
[10:24] <seb128> well in any case let's not remove the scope until the new thing is installed and working
[10:27] <xnox> seb128, unity7 swirly ubuntu button vs unity8 orange square button.
[10:28] <seb128> xnox, k
[11:16] <andyrock> morning
[11:38] <pitti> Laney: hey, good morning!
[11:38] <pitti> Laney: there's some crap in http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running#queue-huge-zesty-amd64
[11:38] <pitti> Laney: the queues seem to tmpfail a lot, maybe because of that?
[11:43] <Laney> pitti: haha
[11:43] <Laney> I thought I killed those
[11:44]  * Laney does so
[11:45] <pitti> Laney: cheers! I suppose that's what was killing workers over the weekend
[11:45] <Laney> yeah
[11:47] <pitti> Laney: FWIW, simpler to flush all queues, remove britney's pending cache, and let britney resubmit stuff
[11:48] <xnox> seb128, pitti, Laney - i have an ubuntu tablet, running staging channel with systemd as pid 1.
[11:49] <xnox> there is user session systemd too, but that has zero jobs.
[11:49] <pitti> that sounds right
[11:49] <pitti> I got the vivid phone as far as booting, starting the lxc android container, and being able to do calls, SMS, web
[11:50] <pitti> (MTP and other stuff were broken due to the missing property event bridge)
[11:50] <xnox> there is a working property event bridge now, i believe.
[11:50] <xnox> which i guess needs to somehow live in a separate package now.
[11:51] <xnox> as it has become systemd&upstart compatible.
[11:52] <Laney> pitti: simpler> it would have been - messing around with the queues is fiddly
[12:35]  * flexiondotorg hunts for lunch
[12:45]  * desrt eyes irccloud and freenode and tries to guess
[12:47] <Laney> going to be a fun day for qengho ;-)
[12:48]  * Laney is seeing complaints in various IRC channels about amazon stopping working due to some SSL problem
[12:48] <Laney> hi desrt!
[12:55] <desrt> sup laney?
[12:57] <Laney> drinking kale juice and coffee
[12:57] <Laney> apologising to my body :-)
[12:57] <desrt> for which one? :)
[12:58] <Laney> these are the apology
[12:58] <Laney> for the bieres and lack of sleep last night
[12:58] <desrt> ah
[12:58] <desrt> fun evening? :)
[12:59] <Laney> yep
[12:59] <Laney> christmas open mic at the pub
[16:04] <greyback> whoa the biggest focus bug I struggled with in unity has gone!
[16:11] <seb128> which one was that? was it fixed or just got lucky and it stop doing it? ;-)
[16:12] <qengho> Maybe greyback only stopped struggling.
[16:15] <greyback> seb128: I'm sure I logged it but I can't find it now. It's been going on for years, so I just automatically work around it.
[16:47] <seb128> does somebody feel like bisecting gtk? bug #1649011 seems like one that got fixed between the yakkety and zesty versions (if I got my local testing of the debs right)
[16:47] <ubot5`> bug 1649011 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "File Choser crashes in GTK3 apps when unselecting multiple items" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1649011
[16:58] <seb128> can somebody using ubuntu >= 16.10 with unity and multi monitor confirm or not bug #1648908?
[16:58] <ubot5`> bug 1648908 in unity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 16.10 odd multiple monitor Appindicator behaviour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648908
[16:58] <seb128> basically whether the indicators menus follow the mouse or not
[17:06] <muktupavels> seb128: I can reproduce that using zesty in vm...
[17:06] <seb128> muktupavels, thanks!
[17:06] <seb128> one for Trevinho and andyrock then ;-)
[18:09] <attente> seb128: did you manage to reproduce #1649011?
[18:15] <seb128> attente, yes it does it on xenial, hit a sigabrt in gtkrbtree.c
[18:15] <seb128> same with the yakkety gtk version
[18:15] <attente> but not zesty, right? i can't reproduce it here
[18:15] <seb128> correct
[18:15] <davmor2> seb128: I can see it on 17.04
[18:16] <attente> do you have a trace?
[18:16] <seb128> I tried to ldpreload the different versions
[18:16] <davmor2> seb128: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648908 this one that is
[18:16] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1648908 in unity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 16.10 odd multiple monitor Appindicator behaviour" [High,Confirmed]
[18:16] <seb128> davmor2, thanks
[18:18] <seb128> attente, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23620169/
[18:19] <davmor2> seb128: I can double check it tomorrow for you on 16.10 and 16.04 and confirm it differs for you
[18:19] <seb128> davmor2, no it's fine, thanks for confirming
[18:19] <seb128> attente, in fact I think it's fixed by https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/gtk/gtktreeview.c?h=gtk-3-22&id=d3adf47d9f70ed785dc26aba3b48e607f89ee5b5
[18:19] <seb128> looking at the history of the concerned files
[18:20] <attente> seb128: nice
[18:21] <seb128> attente, sorry for the noise, I looked at the gtkrbtree.c log earlier didn't go to next source and took the easy option to ask here ... thanks for following up and pushing me to look a bit more ;-)
[18:22] <attente> seb128: no worries, good job finding that :)
[18:22] <seb128> thanks!
[18:22] <attente> seb128: i just saw you needed help bisecting :P
[18:23] <seb128> I'm sure you configured some keywords in your IRC client to not miss those ;-)
[18:23] <seb128> and on that note time for some exercice
[18:23] <attente> something like that...
[18:23] <seb128> have a nice evening desktopers, see you tomorrow!
[18:24] <willcooke>  night seb128
[18:24] <attente> enjoy, seb128
[18:24]  * willcooke goes too
[18:24] <seb128> thanks
[18:24] <willcooke> night all
[18:24] <attente> you too willcooke