[04:07] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> quick jump-in before work
[04:13] <Bashing-om> What a wonderful thing - IRC - place brain in gear before going to work :)
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> yeah all this green on black hexchat giving me a boost lol
[04:15] <Bashing-om> ^ along with the black coffee .
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> morning rangemonger
[04:16] <rangemonger> sup?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> did you fix your xen?
[04:16] <rangemonger> i did :D
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> rangemonger: what did the trick?
[04:17] <rangemonger> had to make a conf file to hide the pci devices i wanted to load in a vm
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> morning boshhead
[04:17] <boshhead> Hello all
[04:17] <boshhead> hi lotuspsychje :)
[04:18] <rangemonger> also had to modprobe xen-pciback, beforehand
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> rangemonger: so by default they show in the config?
[04:18] <boshhead> I have recently converted from a desktop PC running Ubuntu, to the new macbook pro 2016. But I still run linux in VMs and on my VPS.
[04:18] <boshhead> and by linux i mean ubuntu of course :P
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> boshhead: we had a user recently saying he managed to install ubuntu on a mac dualboot
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> on a recent mac
[04:19] <rangemonger> lotuspsychje: nope, i had to lspci, see what they were an add them manually
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> rangemonger: i see!
[04:19] <rangemonger> added them to modprobe.d
[04:19] <rangemonger> weird that kvm needed no such tweaking
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> rangemonger: yeah was wondering why that doesnt work by default?
[04:20] <rangemonger> vt-d just  works on kvm
[04:20] <rangemonger> the only thing i needed to do for kvm was add iommu to grub
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> rangemonger: maybe you should file a new bug, then resolve it right away how you fixxed?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> help the community
[04:21] <rangemonger> i dont know, i think maybe virtman doesnt see what virtual pci slot it should add things to probperly, with xen
[04:21] <rangemonger> i think it tries adding them to ones that are taken
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> right
[04:22] <rangemonger> also virtman has tablet added as a default item, to a newly created vm, but if you remove it, its not listed as an available item to add back
[04:24] <rangemonger> i basically spun a 'buntu that was a bare lxde desktop, virtman, and almost nothing else
[04:25] <rangemonger> just basic things like randr and power management
[04:25] <rangemonger> ...remote desktop, ssh
[04:25] <rangemonger> thats about it
[04:26] <rangemonger> its basically like a bare metal hv
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> cool
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> i like the new 16.04 lubuntu alot
[04:28] <rangemonger> no one seems to be using 16.10
[04:30] <rangemonger> its funny because lubuntu based on lxqt has been "coming in the next" release for about 4 years now
[04:31] <boshhead> LTS editions are always nice, hard to beat 5 years of support :)
[04:32] <Ben64> yep
[04:32] <Ben64> been using them since 8.04
[04:33] <rangemonger> im to tempted by the new shinies :S
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> bbl working : (
[07:33] <ducasse> good morning all
[07:34] <rangemonger> morning
[09:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[09:17] <rangemonger> yep...
[09:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> who started this
[09:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh a few in here actsauly
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:46] <OerHeks> hello BluesKaj :-)
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hi OerHeks
[13:03] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[22:07] <Slown> Hi
[22:09] <nicomachus> Slown: I highly suggest going for 16.04
[22:09] <nicomachus> the LTS relesase.
[22:09] <nicomachus> release*
[22:09] <Slown> ok I'll go with that
[22:10] <Slown> is ubuntu budgie official guys ?
[22:10] <nicomachus> it's supported until 2021.
[22:10] <nicomachus> never heard of it.
[22:10] <Slown> https://budgie-remix.org
[22:10] <Slown> take a look
[22:10] <Slown> very beautiful DE
[22:11] <nicomachus> I don't think any DE's are "official".
[22:11] <nicomachus> if you like it, try it.
[22:11] <nicomachus> you can install more than one and switch back and forth.
[22:11] <Slown> what do you mean ?
[22:11] <tgm4883> Slown: ubuntu budgie 16.10 is an official flavor
[22:11] <tgm4883> 16.04 is not
[22:11] <Slown> what ?
[22:12] <tgm4883> How is that not clear?
[22:12] <\9> budgie? who decided on that name?
[22:12] <Slown> I don't understand
[22:12] <Slown> why 16.10 is official
[22:12] <Slown> and not the 16.04
[22:12] <Slown> it's the same DE
[22:12] <tgm4883> Slown: because there's a process to applying to be an official flavor, and they did so in time for the 16.10 release, and did not for the 16.04 release
[22:13] <Slown> ok I understand
[22:13] <tgm4883> \9: you prefer bubuntu?
[22:13] <tgm4883> or budubuntu
[22:13] <nicomachus> that's awful. lol
[22:13] <tgm4883> how about budgiebuntu
[22:13] <Slown> too much
[22:14] <\9> i meant the name 'budgie' itself but whatever
[22:14] <tgm4883> :)
[22:14] <Slown> did they have a channel ?
[22:14] <\9> budubuntu would be funny
[22:14] <tgm4883> !flavor
[22:14] <ubot5`> Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE
[22:14] <tgm4883> !budgie
[22:14] <tgm4883> I guess that needs updated
[22:15] <\9> !budubuntu
[22:16] <Slown> so If I download the 16.10 release
[22:16] <Slown> and I decide someday to back to the LTS version
[22:16] <Slown> is it recommended ?
[22:16] <Slown> and possible
[22:16] <tgm4883> it would be a reinstall
[22:17] <Slown> hmm ok
[22:20] <Slown> thank you guys
[22:21] <Slown> goodbye
[23:39] <Bashing-om> rebooting .. back on a bit