[01:23] <systemsgotyou> is the root account disabled by default is 16.04?
[02:00] <nchambers> systemsgotyou, it worked fine for me when I used it
[03:40] <terabyte> hey
[03:40] <terabyte> I have a debian package that I uploaded to my own repo. It was signed by me (i know it's signed correctly because i verified it with debsigs-verify command).
[03:41] <terabyte> When I try to do  "/usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install packagename"   it says that the package isn't signed... is there another signature somewhere that i've missed?
[03:42] <terabyte> specifically this is said "E: There were unauthenticated packages and -y was used without --allow-unauthenticated"
[03:44] <terabyte> sudo apt-key list also shows the expected key listed...
[10:00] <zhhuabj> jamespage, ping
[10:01] <jamespage> zhhuabj, hello
[10:01] <zhhuabj> jaemspage, seems we forgot to release it https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive/+archive/ubuntu/kilo-staging/+build/11246354
[10:02] <zhhuabj> jamespage, this is for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1640676/
[10:03] <zhhuabj> jamespage, the package was published on 07/12, but we still can't find it from -update pocket
[10:06] <jamespage> hmm
[10:07] <jamespage> zhhuabj, I see the problem - let me get that fixed
[10:07] <zhhuabj> jamespage, great thanks -:)
[10:09] <EvilAngel> any of you used nova compute kvm?
[10:10] <jamespage> oh yes
[10:10] <EvilAngel> you liking it?
[10:10] <EvilAngel> was going to do vms like usual but thought i'd try lxd
[10:10] <SipriusPT> hello guys
[10:11] <jamespage> EvilAngel, those are not mutually exclusive options - you can mix KVM and LXD in the same cloud
[10:11] <SipriusPT> i am having an issue with redirecting mail from an outside domain to another outside domain in my smarthost
[10:12] <SipriusPT> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/unable-to-forward-mail-from-external-account-to-external-account-4175595120/
[10:12] <SipriusPT> Resuming, with alias_maps, i have the right relay but the wrong sender domain (@remote.domainX.pt), with virtual_alias_maps, it uses a wrong relay (localhost) and the right sender (@domainX.pt), as you can see above.
[10:12] <EvilAngel> jamespage: oh ok. yeah i just noticed that at the end of th einstall
[10:12] <SipriusPT> i am using postfix
[10:12] <EvilAngel> it's tied to libvirt
[10:13] <SipriusPT> anyone can help me?
[10:13] <SipriusPT> i am able to pay a drink for the guy who discover where the problem is eheh i am almost 3 days trying to fix this
[10:14] <SipriusPT> *how to solve it
[10:14] <EvilAngel> sorry dude. im no good with mail. yet
[10:15] <SipriusPT> this could be your worst nightmare
[10:15] <SipriusPT> here is my warning lol
[10:15] <EvilAngel> lol
[10:15] <EvilAngel> dude i got a page long devtodo
[10:15] <EvilAngel> you don't even want to see it
[10:16] <SipriusPT> xD
[10:16] <cpaelzer> I guess in general there is rarely a lot of response to "raise your hands if you are idling" :-)
[10:16] <rbasak> cpaelzer: to triage bug 1609051, I think: not relevant for server users, so can leave it to other teams to triage. But I believe for issues in images going out in OTAs, you can add a task for canonical-devices-system-image to get the attention of the relevant devices people.
[10:17] <cpaelzer> rbasak: thank you so much, I never had any contact with them so I didn't know who to ping to get the right focus
[10:38] <metachr0n> hello everyone, does anyone have suggestions for cleanup after upgrades from 14.04 to 16.04 ... i'm seeing quite a few systemd failures in the syslog "Failed to foward Released message: No buffer space available" for example\
[10:38] <EvilAngel> SipriusPT: there are people that will help for money. not sure who here, but for centos bahumbug will, for a steep price.
[10:38] <EvilAngel> some guys will do it for dabs
[10:39] <EvilAngel> lol
[10:39] <metachr0n> chrom laughs at your centos
[10:39] <EvilAngel> i fuckin hate centos
[10:39] <metachr0n> i don't hate anything
[10:39] <EvilAngel> but it's what companies use sometimes
[10:39] <metachr0n> the right tool for the job
[10:39] <metachr0n> but yeah
[10:39] <metachr0n> centos isn't my prefered distro
[10:39] <metachr0n> for anything
[10:39] <EvilAngel> it's alright if you use it a bit but it's very limited
[10:39] <metachr0n> XD
[10:40] <metachr0n> commercial influences usually have a negative impact on things
[10:40] <EvilAngel> ubuntu always works for me tbh
[10:40] <EvilAngel> gotta beat it sometimes but it'll get there
[10:41] <metachr0n> i like gentoo, debian ( and debian based ), and i have recently taken a liking to void
[10:41] <EvilAngel> i like all those too
[10:42] <EvilAngel> void i don't know
[10:42] <metachr0n> depends on what you are trying to do i gues
[10:42] <cpaelzer> menas he likes nothing :-)
[10:42] <metachr0n> guess
[10:42] <metachr0n> :D
[10:42] <EvilAngel> i used gentoo for years. it was great.
[10:43] <EvilAngel> ubuntu gave me back my time though. gentoo was always taking my attention away from work.
[10:43] <cpaelzer> EvilAngel: that is kind of my gentoo story as well
[10:43] <cpaelzer> I liked the suprt-control I had but eventually realized how much time I spent to control everything (on the builds especially)
[10:44] <metachr0n> i'm using gentoo hardened ... never breaks as long as you follow one simple rule ... update frequently ... build world, depclean, revdep-rebuild
[10:44] <EvilAngel> it's like a toy with too many options
[10:44] <metachr0n> well getting it setup yes
[10:44] <metachr0n> 3 days to setup properly even with scripts and stuff
[10:44] <metachr0n> because i always forget some little thing here or there
[10:44] <metachr0n> but yes
[10:44] <metachr0n> initial install / setup a beotch
[10:44] <EvilAngel> oh yeah. i think the best thign is stock gentoo. no outside sources etc
[10:44] <metachr0n> after that ... smooth provided you've got a powerful enough machine to tear through the code
[10:44] <EvilAngel> then it's rock solid
[10:45] <metachr0n> yep ;)
[10:45] <metachr0n> and best of all
[10:45] <metachr0n> systemd is optional
[10:45] <metachr0n> also for void linux
[10:45] <EvilAngel> oh yeah, but i like systemd. even though it's a pita when it's not working
[10:46] <metachr0n> it has some nice features
[10:46] <metachr0n> but it should be optional if there are other ways of doing it
[10:46] <metachr0n> its another topic ... but it came from freedesktop ... lennart and thus its a red hat product
[10:47] <metachr0n> more or less :)
[10:47] <metachr0n> opinions may differ
[10:47] <metachr0n> and thats ok
[10:47] <metachr0n> its not evil
[10:47] <metachr0n> but it was a power grab
[10:47] <EvilAngel> i know
[10:48] <EvilAngel> i just don't care because they a bunch of whinny bitches
[10:48] <EvilAngel> diversity is good
[10:48] <EvilAngel> monoculture bad
[10:49] <metachr0n> diversity is good for everyone
[10:49] <metachr0n> monoculture is good for their profit
[10:50] <EvilAngel> i love when people get excited about forks
[10:50] <EvilAngel> that's what this is really all about
[10:50] <metachr0n> yep
[10:50] <metachr0n> and thats what makes it great sharing, taking, giving ...
[10:50] <metachr0n> i worked for red hat for a very short time
[10:50] <EvilAngel> cool
[10:50] <metachr0n> some things about them are impressive and they have some great people
[10:51] <EvilAngel> i'm studying for their exams
[10:51] <metachr0n> which ones are you taking
[10:51] <EvilAngel> rhcsa
[10:51] <EvilAngel> then onward
[10:51] <metachr0n> that one isn't bad ... i've got rhcsa, rhce ... both are pretty much cake if you study for a week you got those two
[10:52] <EvilAngel> yeah
[10:52] <EvilAngel> I don't know centos very well.
[10:52] <metachr0n> the problem is the time ...
[10:52] <metachr0n> well ... something interesting is how red hat likes to reinvent the ways of doing things every release
[10:52] <EvilAngel> i've been doing freebsd and ubuntu a lot lately. i should have been studying lol
[10:53] <metachr0n> to the extent that it drives their training profits ;)
[10:53] <EvilAngel> oh
[10:53] <EvilAngel> yeah but they change so slowly
[10:53] <metachr0n> my opinion
[10:53] <EvilAngel> when's rh8?
[10:53] <metachr0n> rhel yes
[10:53] <metachr0n> but rhosp for example ...
[10:53] <metachr0n> and i know its a fast moving target
[10:53] <metachr0n> to be fair
[10:53] <EvilAngel> look at the centos kernel lol
[10:54] <EvilAngel> i shouldn't laugh. it's working great on this x3850 m2
[10:54] <EvilAngel> ubuntu didn't...
[10:55] <metachr0n> red hat is super fast to respond to customer issues
[10:55] <metachr0n> even backports and other patches
[10:55] <metachr0n> sometimes same day
[10:56] <EvilAngel> they would have to be
[10:56] <EvilAngel> they wouldn't survive otherwise
[10:56] <metachr0n> but they are using the system ... to the extent that they gain controlling interests in the development teams of major stuff ... and thus they are guiding the future of linux as much as they can
[10:57] <metachr0n> thats what i don't like
[10:57] <EvilAngel> but are they?
[10:57] <EvilAngel> i mean, they're not getting in my way at all
[10:57] <metachr0n> well systemd is nearly unavoidable
[10:57] <EvilAngel> ahh
[10:57] <metachr0n> that was their doing
[10:58] <EvilAngel> ok, fair enough. i heard that was kinda nasty on their part
[10:58] <metachr0n> it is difficult to use a new gnome-based anything without your freedesktop goodies
[10:58] <metachr0n> and new software developed for those systems cannot be used on a *BSD box for the most part
[10:58] <EvilAngel> yeah, we need a new server for sure
[10:58] <EvilAngel> raster could do it
[10:58] <EvilAngel> alone
[10:59] <metachr0n> i personally in that regard use OpenBSD where possible ... then FreeBSD ... then Debian, Ubuntu, or Gentoo ( especially if i need something specialized / embedded )
[10:59] <EvilAngel> someone should give him a bunch of cash to write a new xserver
[10:59] <metachr0n> you mean Carsten Heitzler?  Rasterman?
[10:59] <EvilAngel> yeah
[10:59] <metachr0n> i know Raster ... used to work at VA Linux together back in the day
[11:00] <EvilAngel> i seen him write code
[11:00] <metachr0n> he is one of the few people i've seen code and talk at the same time
[11:00] <metachr0n> yes
[11:00] <EvilAngel> it's rediculous
[11:00] <metachr0n> :)
[11:00] <metachr0n> its insane
[11:00] <metachr0n> and then it compiles
[11:00] <EvilAngel> oh i know
[11:00] <metachr0n> i can't walk and chew gum at the same time
[11:00] <metachr0n> Raster is also a cool guy ... haven't been in touch with him lately
[11:01] <metachr0n> he was in Japan last i heard
[11:01] <EvilAngel> same
[11:01] <EvilAngel> i left IT and became afarmer
[11:01] <EvilAngel> lol
[11:01] <EvilAngel> but came back of course
[11:01] <EvilAngel> so no idea what's up with E
[11:01] <EvilAngel> been reading cuddletech again though
[11:01] <EvilAngel> ben's stuff
[11:01] <EvilAngel> he's the shit too
[11:02] <EvilAngel> helped make smartos and used to work on E back in the day
[11:04] <metachr0n> are you serious?  sometimes i think about stuff like that ... to get away from the stress of modern life
[11:05] <metachr0n> there are tons of people way better than me ... heroes if you will ... always good to have people we can look up to
[11:05] <metachr0n> but we are each great in our own ... a part of the whole
[11:05] <metachr0n> none insignificant ... none better or worse than the other
[11:05] <metachr0n> just an important part of the whole
[11:05] <EvilAngel> yeah
[11:05] <EvilAngel> well i live in WA and I was farming cannabis
[11:06] <metachr0n> XD
[11:06] <metachr0n> bwahahahahahahaha
[11:06] <metachr0n> getting away from the stress
[11:06] <metachr0n> thats actually cool
[11:06] <EvilAngel> it was awesome but I prefer pooters
[11:06] <EvilAngel> i can't get away
[11:06] <metachr0n> yeah computers are awesome
[11:06] <EvilAngel> speaking of which
[11:07] <EvilAngel> gotta crash
[11:07] <EvilAngel> nice talking to you. i'll be back with question tomorrow about nova n stuff
[11:07] <metachr0n> heya goodnight
[11:07] <metachr0n> nice talking with you too man
[11:07] <metachr0n> yep i'll be here
[15:02] <coreycb> zul, ddellav: this is for the ocata glance unit tests failures - bug 1649300
[15:02] <zul> coreycb: ack
[15:03] <ddellav> coreycb ah, thank you, i've been looking at that
[15:04] <a8o> any of you guys have ssh connection issues with the latest Ubuntu?  For whatever reason I all my ssh connections time out to anything I connect to crazy fast.
[15:05] <a8o> My older Ubuntu didn't do that.  But this newer one is driving me crazy with SSH.  I spend all day in SSH so it's killing me.  I've tried using mosh but I cna't use that on everything
[15:09] <jamespage> zhhuabj, ok that should be fixed now
[15:10] <jamespage> coreycb, ddellav: hey so we have a minor issue with python-mistralclient in newton and ocata having the same version but not being the same package (my bad)
[15:10] <jamespage> I've fixed that
[15:10] <jamespage> but it did block the PPA -> UCA sync process for a few days
[15:10] <coreycb> jamespage, ok thanks for fixing that up
[15:21] <Pinkamena_D> what is a simple way to test pam authentication?
[15:22] <Pinkamena_D> without ssh?
[15:29] <coreycb> jamespage, think we can upload networking-sfc 3.0.0 to ocata?
[15:29] <jamespage> coreycb, probably :-)
[15:30] <coreycb> jamespage, ok i'll look into it
[16:26] <Teranet> good morning everyone
[16:26] <Teranet> do we have anyone online here which knows JUJU quiet well ?
[16:42] <SipriusPT> hello guys
[16:42] <SipriusPT> i am having an issue with my smart host when tried to forward mail from an outside domain email to another outside domain email
[16:42] <SipriusPT> and i have not figure out
[16:43] <SipriusPT> how can i solve this
[16:43] <SipriusPT> here i have all my logs
[16:43] <SipriusPT> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/unable-to-forward-mail-from-external-account-to-external-account-4175595120/
[16:43] <SipriusPT> i am using postfix and getmail
[16:43] <SipriusPT> anyone?
[16:44] <Teranet> so what does your postfix mail log shows when you send an email ?
[16:49] <SipriusPT> i have all the relevant mail.log entries in that tread over linuxquestions
[16:49] <SipriusPT> if you could see it
[16:49] <SipriusPT> i have there also my main.cf and master.cf
[16:49] <SipriusPT> i have already done tests with aliases and virtual_alias_maps
[16:49] <SipriusPT> Resuming, with alias_maps, i have the right relay but the wrong sender domain (@remote.domainX.pt), with virtual_alias_maps, it uses a wrong relay (localhost) and the right sender (@domainX.pt), as you can see above.
[16:50] <SipriusPT> *as you can see in the thread
[16:50] <SipriusPT> i am cracking my head in this one
[16:51] <Teranet> I am looking at it right now hold on
[16:51] <SipriusPT> ok thanks Teranet
[16:53] <Teranet> I have now idea who did this but : relayhost = [cpanel.ideiasfrescas.pt]:25   should be without the brackets  : relayhost = cpanel.ideiasfrescas.pt:25
[16:53] <Teranet> and now I look further for you
[16:54] <Teranet> also : mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain, x.pt   remove the , x.pt from it there is now need
[16:55] <SipriusPT> ah yes
[16:55] <Teranet> you already predefind it with $mydomain
[16:55] <SipriusPT> i have it already set as $mydomain
[16:55] <SipriusPT> yes
[16:55] <SipriusPT> and relayhost i have a relayhost per user because of SMTP auth
[16:57] <SipriusPT> i already made the changes
[16:57] <Teranet> also I would do an adjustment at : mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, [::1]/128
[16:57] <Teranet> do add at the end your local network with for example : 10.x.v.y/8   or what ever your own network ranges are
[16:58] <Teranet> also the host you forward too it that a static IP or do you not know ?
[17:03] <SipriusPT> cpanel.ideiasfrescas.pt?
[17:03] <SipriusPT> the relayhost?
[17:03] <SipriusPT> i didnt understand
[17:04] <Teranet> Yes remove the brackets from the hostname
[17:04] <Teranet> it's common you write it like this :    relayhost = mail.google.com:25
[17:05] <SipriusPT> done
[17:05] <SipriusPT> but i saw a lot of syntax using brackets
[17:05] <Teranet> ok now : service postfix restart
[17:05] <SipriusPT> but i didnt knew what for
[17:05] <SipriusPT> ok
[17:06] <SipriusPT> done
[17:06] <SipriusPT> should i use virtual_alias_maps or alias_maps?
[17:07] <Teranet> also correct this : #myorigin = $myhostname   and remove the # comment from the front just to be safe
[17:07] <Teranet> let's first focus on the main issue
[17:08] <Teranet> it's at line 93 ish
[17:10] <SipriusPT> done
[17:10] <SipriusPT> let me se
[17:10] <Teranet> Let me know what you now get when you do your test mail
[17:11] <SipriusPT> ok i will postfix reload
[17:11] <SipriusPT> and test with virtual_alias_maps
[17:12] <SipriusPT> sending from gmail account to a local account and then forwarding to another account in my remote mail server from another domain
[17:14] <Teranet> ok
[17:14] <SipriusPT> to=<test1@domainY.pt>, orig_to=<test2@domainX.pt>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024
[17:15] <SipriusPT> was send internally
[17:15] <SipriusPT> same output
[17:18] <Teranet> ok the first looks ok what it he error line ?
[17:19] <SipriusPT> http://pastebin.com/Df3T3Bf4
[17:20] <SipriusPT> mail.log there when it do the mess
[17:22] <Teranet> your postfix is correct only this is the issue :
[17:22] <Teranet> 550-Verification failed for <Xserver@remote.domainX.pt> 550-No Such User Here 550 Sender verify failed (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[17:22] <Teranet> your authentication fails
[17:22] <SipriusPT> yes
[17:23] <Teranet> so the way you authenticate you might use the wrong methode or like 550 states user not there : Xserver@remote.domainX.pt
[17:24] <SipriusPT> yes
[17:24] <SipriusPT> it uses xserver user but that is a local user, not a mail user
[17:24] <SipriusPT> but i dont understand
[17:25] <SipriusPT> : to=<test4<a>domainY.pt>, orig_to=<test<a>remote.domainX.pt>, relay=mail.domainX.pt[94.126.172.X]:587, delay=0.09, delays=0/0.01/0.06/0.02, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mail.domainX.pt[94.126.172.X] said: 550-Verification failed for <Xserver<a>remote.domainX.pt> 550-No Such User Here 550 Sender verify failed (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[17:25] <SipriusPT> this mail should be send as orig_to
[17:25] <SipriusPT> and it sends as xserver
[17:26] <SipriusPT> i was expecting that postfix would send as orig_to
[17:29] <Teranet> your authentication user is the issue
[17:29] <SipriusPT> yes
[17:30] <SipriusPT> i cannot figure out how can i solve that
[17:30] <SipriusPT> this is a root user
[17:30] <SipriusPT> it would need to be a user with a right domainX.pt
[17:31] <SipriusPT> to let mail pass through
[17:32] <Teranet> let me check
[17:32] <Teranet> have in another channel an issue going on as well hold on
[17:50] <SipriusPT> ok
[17:51] <SipriusPT> thanks a lot for the help Teranet
[17:52] <Teranet> no problem I catch back up with you in a bit I have meeting to lead right now
[17:56] <SipriusPT> ok no problem
[21:05] <pmatulis> mmcc, hi, i'd like to try my luck at conjure-up again. is it at a stage where i can point it at a MAAS containing, say, 4 nodes, and it will build a cloud?
[21:40] <mmcc> hi pmatulis, yes. The supported spell for deploying openstack onto MAAS uses the openstack-base bundle, here: https://jujucharms.com/openstack-base/ , which requires a minimum of 4 nodes in the MAAS. Note that this does not include the MAAS server or the machine that you run conjure-up from (which could be that server if need be)
[21:40] <mmcc> check the readme of that bundle for the hardware requirements for each of the nodes
[21:56] <pmatulis> mmcc, very nice, thanks. will be testing this soon
[22:13] <pmatulis> mmcc, don't you need an extra node for the juju controller?
[22:13] <mmcc> pmatulis: yes, that's right. so five nodes minimum
[22:14] <mmcc> sorry about the confusion there
[22:14] <pmatulis> mmcc, and how can i specify that controller node?
[22:14] <pmatulis> obviously i don't want to have it end up on one of the big ones
[22:14] <mmcc> conjure-up --bootstrap-to hostname.maas
[22:15] <pmatulis> sweet, will try
[22:50] <pmatulis> mmcc, seems it was possible in the past to have conjure use a pre-existing controller. still possible?
[22:50] <pmatulis> i have odd proxy settings needed to create a controller
[22:52] <mmcc> pmatulis: yes, it should show you a list of available controllers after you pick the spell
[22:52] <pmatulis> interesting. but no way to "CLI it"?
[22:53] <mmcc> oh, yeah - 'conjure-up spellname cloundname controllername'
[22:54] <pmatulis> great!
[22:55] <mmcc> pmatulis: actually that won't work with maas unless you specifically add it using 'juju add-cloud'
[22:55] <pmatulis> yeah, i'm gonna have that done
[22:55] <mmcc> on my test system, I have a maas controller but didn't add it as a cloud, so conjure-up doesn't find 'maas' in the list of clouds
[22:55] <mmcc> ok, great
[22:57] <mmcc> pmatulis: I'm only around for a few more minutes this afternoon, but please file any bugs you find at github.com/conjure-up/conjure-up and we'll look at them ASAP
[22:59] <pmatulis> perfect