| Acou_Bass | Has anyone noticed a worsening in battery life wwith ota-14? Fairly sure mines degraded :( | 00:21 |
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| t-ask | Acou_Bass: I might look into it. Can you play videos without problems? | 01:15 |
| Acou_Bass | t-ask: Yeah videos work for me though they wont play in the scope (though thats never worked for me anyway ) | 01:57 |
| t-ask | Acou_Bass: Did you download them with Youtube-dl, too? | 01:58 |
| Acou_Bass | no I just took a video with my camera to test it hehe | 01:58 |
| t-ask | Acou_Bass: I'm using Linux to download them and just put them on the phone. Since the OTA video playback is almost broken for me | 02:00 |
| Acou_Bass | hmm | 02:00 |
| t-ask | Tried mp4, mkv and webm without final success :( | 02:00 |
| Acou_Bass | weird | 02:00 |
| Acou_Bass | lemme see if I can grab some from my server and trst | 02:01 |
| t-ask | yes, very weired. With the OTA some videos only play audio with black sceeen | 02:01 |
| t-ask | all vides thumbnails are rendered fine in Gallery | 02:01 |
| t-ask | strange, really strange | 02:01 |
| t-ask | Gallery can obviously get a frame from the videos, but can't playback ... | 02:01 |
| t-ask | maybe I have to download them with a certain option or size eg. | 02:02 |
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| Acou_Bass | t-ask: OK so mp4 worked for me but webm and mkv didnt | 02:25 |
| Acou_Bass | all 3 were done eith youtube-dl | 02:25 |
| t-ask | wihtout any special option, I guess. | 02:26 |
| Acou_Bass | the mp4 even played in the scope | 02:26 |
| t-ask | strange I have so many mp4 which don't work at all | 02:26 |
| t-ask | on the other hand, some of them work... | 02:27 |
| t-ask | even when downloaded them from the same playlist eg... | 02:27 |
| Acou_Bass | all thats in my youtube-dl config is prefer free formats | 02:27 |
| t-ask | Mmm | 02:29 |
| t-ask | Error is shown "Failure to connect with playback backend." | 02:30 |
| Acou_Bass | yeah I got that with a mkv however webm played sound with a blank video | 02:31 |
| Acou_Bass | and mp4 worked perfectly in both media player and scope | 02:31 |
| Acou_Bass | webm had no thumbnail yet mkv sid | 02:31 |
| Acou_Bass | did* odd | 02:32 |
| t-ask | I'm out of luck. MIght be another problem I have | 02:36 |
| t-ask | I downloaded the app "mediacodecs" | 02:36 |
| t-ask | starting it only lists Audio | 02:36 |
| t-ask | or file names are too long | 02:40 |
| Acou_Bass | hmm | 02:40 |
| t-ask | before the OTA I could play some of those videos. lets say 50% | 02:41 |
| t-ask | now it si 5-10% max :( | 02:41 |
| t-ask | this makes no sense to me | 02:42 |
| t-ask | anyways, I have to leave. I will ask tomorrow. Maybe nore devs are on eg. | 02:45 |
| t-ask | Acou_Bass: thanks for helping out :) | 02:45 |
| Acou_Bass | no worries :D | 02:47 |
| Acou_Bass | Ima mention mu battery issues too | 02:47 |
| Acou_Bass | ill test it for a couple days to make sure | 02:47 |
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| JanC | I think high-bitrate videos might not work on a phone/tablet...? | 05:44 |
| JanC | maybe some high MPEG4 profiles not either | 05:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | anyone around? | 08:00 |
| KrisJace | how to use SDL on Ubuntu Touch? | 08:39 |
| KrisJace | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/mir-sdl-support | 08:39 |
| KrisJace | they say it works, but I tired 5 different games all crashed the phone | 08:40 |
| KrisJace | immediately upon starting | 08:40 |
| KrisJace | display went goes to shit and phone soon restarts | 08:40 |
| KrisJace | but it does work if ssh into the phone with x forwarding | 08:40 |
| KrisJace | not on mir though | 08:40 |
| KrisJace | I tried both X-Ubuntu-XMir-Enable=true and =false | 08:41 |
| KrisJace | the only difference is that with XMir enabled it only crashes the app, otherwise the entiore phone | 08:41 |
| duflu | KrisJace: We would like to fix that as soon as possible. Can you log a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+filebug | 08:52 |
| duflu | KrisJace: It's worth noting most of the development effort and real app testing for SDL has been on desktop (x86), and not the phone | 08:53 |
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| vandenoever | are there currently ubuntu touch phones for sale? Aquaris M10 is out of stock | 10:49 |
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| enthusi | where would I look if I was interessted in porting simple (own) things to the ubuntu-touch? | 13:22 |
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| mterry | bfiller: btw snap launching in u8 should mostly work now. So you can test apps in the real u8 env | 14:14 |
| mterry | You should download the snap from the silo, not the store though | 14:14 |
| mterry | Store u8 snap is lagging a bit, because of LP timeouts | 14:14 |
| bfiller | mterry, yeah noticed that last week after building the snap | 14:14 |
| mterry | bfiller: k | 14:14 |
| bfiller | mterry, most of our apps in the edge store use unity8 plug as well now | 14:15 |
| mterry | bfiller: calculator and clock don't (they're owned by ubuntucoredev, not canonical, but still) | 14:16 |
| bfiller | mterry, hmn, renato__ thought these were updated? ^^^ | 14:16 |
| renato__ | bfiller, let me re-check | 14:17 |
| renato__ | mterry, which rev of clock app do you have? | 14:18 |
| mterry | renato__: 12 | 14:18 |
| renato__ | mterry, try to update the version on store is 19 | 14:19 |
| mterry | renato__: hmm I did | 14:19 |
| mterry | let me try with more flags | 14:19 |
| mterry | renato__: ah. You became a devmode snap | 14:20 |
| mterry | I'm guessing calculator did too... | 14:20 |
| renato__ | mterry, yes, because of unity8 interface | 14:20 |
| mterry | ick got it | 14:20 |
| mterry | renato__: ok well great -- I'll play with these and update the unity8-snap-install script to pass --devmode | 14:21 |
| renato__ | mterry, thanks, | 14:22 |
| renato__ | mterry, ubuntu-docviewer-app is just wainting for approval to be publish on store | 14:22 |
| mterry | renato__: is webbrowser-app on the radar to be updated? I still only see revision 1 | 14:28 |
| renato__ | mterry, oSoMoN is working on that. he can give us some status | 14:29 |
| oSoMoN | renato__, mterry: high on my list, will be done sometime this week | 14:30 |
| mterry | oSoMoN: cool, no rush on my side, just curious | 14:31 |
| mterry | renato__: do you know what the story is with the extra black window when launching a u8 snap? tedg said it was a snap-side issue? | 14:35 |
| renato__ | mterry, I know that in the past we need to launch the apps with --desktop_file_hint=unity8 because the real desktop file hint does not work | 14:36 |
| dobey | it happens becasue the snaps are u7 snaps, not u8 snaps | 14:36 |
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| renato__ | mterry, removing it should fix the problem I think | 14:36 |
| dobey | the --desktop-file-hint should probably be removed, but i doubt it is the problem | 14:37 |
| dobey | the empty black hole window is xmir | 14:37 |
| mterry | dobey: my understanding is that snaps can claim both and work natively in both. But if you're saying that the snap is acting like a u7 snap in a u8 env, then I buy that | 14:37 |
| dobey | mterry: i still say it's a ual issue. the .desktop file says X-Ubuntu-Touch=true, and ual treats all "unity7" plugs as "x11" apps, when what the app runs on has nothing to do with unity7 itself | 14:39 |
| dobey | the "it can support both 'unity7' and 'unity8' interfaces" argument is a misnomer i think. because for snaps that declare both, do we show the same app twice, one that runs an xmir and one that doesn't? | 14:40 |
| tedg | I think we need to show it once, but we should use the "best" interface. | 14:41 |
| mterry | No, I think UAL just launches it differently | 14:41 |
| tedg | We need to clear the MIR_* variables when launching with XMir methinks. Perhaps some of the QT ones as well. | 14:41 |
| dobey | that is a recipe for disaster | 14:42 |
| tedg | I think it more comes down to "if the app declares both, it better do a good job of figuring things out" | 14:42 |
| tedg | I'd say that apps probably shouldn't declare both, because it's silly to carry all those extra libs, but we shouldn't disallow it. | 14:42 |
| dobey | i think we're ignoring the snapd-generated .desktop files, so we should prefer what the original .desktop file says, regardless of whether the interface is 'unity7' or 'unity8' | 14:43 |
| tedg | I think we have a firm way of confirming intent, magic undocumented keys in desktop files are not the way to go. | 14:44 |
| dobey | that might be true when snapd upstream actually has all the necessary changes, is deployed everywhere, and we don't have to have things manually approved in the store that require --devmode | 14:46 |
| dobey | i don't think that's true today | 14:46 |
| tedg | Sure, but I'm hoping it will be by say the end of Jan. So relaxing the rules won't help. | 14:47 |
| mterry | tedg: so is there guidance for app folks like renato__ to avoid the black window? some shell script wedge to determine if it has real Mir or not? | 14:47 |
| tedg | In theory no one can declare unity8 right now anyway. | 14:47 |
| tedg | mterry: It should be if you have DISPLAY use X11, if not, use MIR_SOCKET. | 14:47 |
| tedg | mterry: In theory the Qt backend stuff should do that. | 14:48 |
| renato__ | mterry, the app does not have control over that. | 14:48 |
| tedg | mterry: That's why I think we need to remove MIR_* because it might be checking for MIR_SOCKET first there. | 14:48 |
| mterry | got it | 14:48 |
| mterry | So the app *could* scrub its own environment. But we can fix it once in UAL is what your saying | 14:49 |
| tedg | I think so, but right now that's just theory. | 14:49 |
| tedg | Let me try it. | 14:49 |
| mterry | "hold my beer" | 14:50 |
| * tedg wonders how mterry knew | 14:50 | |
| aiyion | a/buffer 22 | 14:57 |
| aiyion | sorry. | 14:57 |
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| lehkeda | I have issue with booting ubuntu-phone , when my device load init of ubuntu-phone it reboots | 19:55 |
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