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Mibixcan someone help me set up samaba shares?00:02
Mibixsamba*00:03
Mibixi can see the share i made on my network but i cant access it from another computer :(00:04
th0rMibix: did you define a samba user ? 'sudo smbpasswd -a (username)00:05
Mibixth0r i was trying to do it so i dont have to login00:07
Mibixis that possible?00:07
Ben64yes00:07
th0rMibix: you don't have to login. And the smb user can be the same as your login...but it has to be defined seperately00:08
Ben64guest ok = yes \n public = yes00:08
cfochEric lightdm is not loading my user session00:13
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cfochEriC^^:00:13
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cfochEriC^^:  :)00:15
cfochlightdm is not loading my user session, any idea?00:17
cfochI have tried with another user00:17
cfochhellO?00:24
cfochhow do I see the log of lightdm?00:25
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vfwcfoch: If lightdm had a log, it would more-thal-likely be in /var/log/lightdm/  but not so sure it exists.  (Not a lightdm user here.)00:28
Mibixahh ok thanks00:28
Mibixneed to copy this dynamic disk to a basic disk before i switch to ubuntu permanently, it did not like my dynamic disk lol00:28
sintreif you can might save time just to back everything up to some other media , then reinstall and start from scratch00:29
sintreif your looking to do a perm transition00:29
BUSYis remmina the right client for ubuntu-to-ubuntu vnc?00:30
sintreno clue what lightdm is00:30
kevinb22Hello, I am running ubuntu server 16 on a dell poweredge with a raid 1 (ubuntu) and raid 5 (for data). I was wondering how to get mount /dev/sdb1 (RAID 5) to mount properly. When i do a 'df' command I do not see it mounted. i've tried doing a  'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /RAID_Set_One/' however it retruns NTFS Signature is missing. Can someone point me in the correct direction?00:30
cfochlightdm is not working00:31
cfochit cannot load my user session00:31
vfwcfoch: Where are you at now?  What do you see on the screen at the point of failure?00:31
cfochvfw:I see the purple/orange background before loading the user00:32
vfwcfoch: And then just black?00:32
cfochIt gets stuck between clicking on login (from lightdm) and before loading the desktop environment00:33
cfochvfw: not black, just that purple screen00:33
vfwcfoch: What GPU do you have?00:34
cfochvfw: IDK, how do I see that?00:35
vfwcfoch: And is it a desktop? Or laptop?00:35
vfwcfoch: lspci |grep -i vga00:35
cfochvfw: desktop00:35
carbineI'm a bit of a noob so bare with me, but I am getting issues using optirun/bumblebee after suspend in Xubuntu 16.04 on an 820m with nvidia-375 drivers.00:36
vfwcfoch: lspci |grep -i vga   #should give you a one line output that will identify your display adapter.  Tell us what it says.00:37
cfochvfw: Advanced Micro Devices... RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]00:38
Led_Zeppelincan someone help me with my sound card?00:38
vfwcfoch: Fully updated?00:39
cfochvfw: I was updating before using do-release-update -d00:39
vfwcfoch: Can you elaborate on that last statement?00:39
Trinityi'm triyng to make my mongod service not start on startup00:40
Trinityi dont see a script in /etc/init.d but I do see one in /etc/init00:40
cfochIt seems it finished, but something weird happened00:40
Trinitywhere else should I look for startup scripts?00:40
cfochI do not know how to explain it00:40
vfwcfoch: What version were you on before?00:41
cfochI pressed enter, and the terminal showed cfoch@cfoch-ubuntu:~$ many times, but in the same line00:41
cfochvfw: Ubuntu 10.0500:41
cfoch10.0400:41
vfw10.04?  Really?00:42
dikiaapWow00:42
nicomachus10.04 has only been EOL for a year and a half. not much more surprising than the occasional 14.10 we see00:43
vfwcfoch: You need to backup your personal files and do fresh install.00:44
sintrenot much to add , but i can say using kubuntu 16.04 and works fine one a old 4 gig core 2 duo pc that is 8 years old00:44
sintreso i wouldn't worry about problems with it working with upgrade :)00:45
cfochhow do I copy & paste from terminal?00:45
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vfwcfoch: Shift-Ctrl-c   Shift-Ctrl-v00:45
vfwcfoch:   copy    paste00:45
cfochvfw: I refer to the terminal you open with Ctrl+Alt+F1/F2/F3...00:46
vfwIn other GUI apps, just Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v00:46
cfochvfw: I don't have GUI00:47
vfwcfoch: That's console mode.  tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4  etc.00:47
cfochyep, console mode :)00:47
vfwcfoch: You need to show us something?00:47
cfochyes, I need to copy & paste00:47
nicomachusyou can also use termbin or pastebinit00:47
cfochI have the app installed to copy & paste from terminal00:47
cfochbut I don't remember its name, so I can't use it00:48
cfochIt is an app to use the cursor in the console actually00:48
nicomachuscfoch: what are you trying to copy paste?00:48
vfwcfoch: lsb_release -a |& nc termbin.com 999900:48
cfochcan you give me the link of the last Ubuntu version00:49
cfoch?00:49
vfwcfoch: The above command will give you a URL you could send us and we would see the output of the command lsb_release -a00:49
cfochplease00:49
cfochso I can download it00:49
cfochwith wget00:49
vfwcfoch: lsb_release -r  #Will tell you what you have now?  (Just version number)00:50
Ben64cfoch: 64bit or 3200:50
cfoch16.1000:50
vfwcfoch: I suggest 16.04  (LTS)00:50
vfwcfoch: Is your computer dual core or better?00:51
sintre64 bit prefered00:51
vfwcfoch: (Do you want/need 64bit or 32bit?)00:51
sintrewell 1.4 core duo easily runs 64 bit version00:51
cfochvfw: but I want the last version to develop on some of the GNOME applications, I suppose it will need some of the latest versions00:52
vfwcfoch: cat /proc/cpuinfo |nc termbin.com 9999  #Show us...00:52
sintrelts will give you newest goodies . you can upgrade up from there00:52
sintreseems you need a stable system atm00:52
nicomachusI still don't believe he's on 10.0400:53
vfwcfoch: Just go to ubuntu.com and choose for yourself.00:53
Ben64cfoch: but if you had 10.04 and waited this long to upgrade, you're better off using LTS00:53
vfwcfoch: (You know what your needs are.)00:53
nicomachusrefuses to run an lsb_release -r00:53
sintreor enlglish isn't his first language and he doesn't know what he's on00:54
vfwnicomachus: -v  Sorry...00:54
cfochtermbin.com/o2pn00:54
nicomachusvfw: huh?00:54
cfochvfw: I don have GUI xD00:54
vfwnicomachus: Actually, -r should work too....00:55
nicomachus-r would work fine.00:55
sintrehow do you not have a gui?00:55
nicomachus so would -a00:55
vfw-r should give the release version number00:55
cfochcould you just give me the link :) please00:55
nicomachuscfoch: no.00:56
cfochI then will copy it to my USB00:56
sintreif no gui then how can you see to download a file?00:56
cfochto install from scratch00:56
nicomachusno one is going to spoon feed you without some info.00:56
cfochwget00:56
cfochsintre: ^00:56
vfwcfoch: You want 64bit Desktop edition?00:56
cfochyes, please00:56
vfwcfoch: Do you want unity or xfce or kde?00:56
cfochUnity00:57
cfochthank you00:57
vfwcfoch: 16.10 64bit?00:57
cfochyes00:57
sintreso you know the different , deskktop manahers but can't manage a gui?00:57
vfwcfoch: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute/?version=16.10&architecture=amd6400:57
* sintre is confused now00:57
pavloshttp://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso00:57
cfochthank you again :)00:58
pavlos16.04 LTS desktop00:58
cfochwait00:58
cfoch16.1000:58
Ben6416.10 loses support in July 201700:58
nicomachusvfw linked 16.10, pavlos linked 16.0400:58
* sintre if wondering if 6 year old is having fun with channel00:58
nicomachusbe nice..00:59
pavloshttp://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.10/ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso00:59
vfwcfoch: Do you want 16.04?00:59
cfochthat's okay, thank you00:59
vfw16.04 is what I recommend.00:59
cfochwhy?00:59
nicomachusbecause it's supported for 5 years01:00
nicomachus16.10 is only supported for 6 months.01:00
vfwcfoch: follow pavlos' first link.01:00
vfwhttp://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso01:00
cfochbut the packages are old versions but stable right?01:00
nicomachusno01:00
cfochso?01:00
sintretest in progress01:00
sintrenew packages out all the time01:00
sintrebut not guanteed stable01:00
sintrewhy difference between newest and lts01:01
nicomachusyes guaranteed stable01:01
nicomachusfor repos, at least. not ppas01:01
cfochwhich have more up-to-date packages? 16.04 LTS or 16.10?01:01
sintreboth will update01:01
sintreand if you want super newst you can upgrade from 16.04 to 1610 dowbn the road once you know your stable and running01:02
nicomachuscfoch: if you want bleeding-edge package updates, then Ubuntu isn't for you. but they will be up to date for the latest stable release.01:02
sintrefor all we know you using an atari as a pc at this point as you won't give us any system info01:02
cfochI'd like to have the newest packages'01:03
vfwcfoch: 16.10 will be newer packages.01:03
* sintre bangs head agains keyboard again01:03
cfochbecause I'd like to contribute to Ubuntu in the future also01:03
cfochWhat version do Ubuntu developers use?01:04
Ben64more people are probably on 16.0401:04
sintrelts aka 16.04 all developers will probally look towards as it the one all dedicate to support for years01:05
sintreso they will want the "newest" and latest things to run with it01:05
tgm4883sintre: 16.04 will not have newer packages than 16.1001:05
sintreout the box now , but most main programs will support 16.04 for many years am i wrong?01:06
sintreand update said packages01:06
sintreas needed01:06
cfochdownloading 16.04.101:06
tgm4883sintre: you're wrong01:06
cfochyou've convinced me01:06
vfwcfoch: Good choice.01:06
sintreexplain this for me tgm01:07
cfochis sb using jhbuild here?01:07
tgm4883sintre: i'm not entirely sure what you want me to explain. The repos for 16.04 are locked and basically the only thing that gets updated would be security patches.01:07
sintrei uses kubuntu and use backports01:08
sintrei upgrade some 252 packages on a fresh install 3 days ago01:08
tgm4883sintre: and?01:08
sintreyes developers still upgrade 16,04 is my point01:09
sintreyou decided at assert it doesn't and /or isn't happening01:09
sintrethere is the point01:09
tgm4883sintre: so some packages get updated via -backports and that means that all developers will look towards 16.04 as the one to support for years?01:10
sintreothats a question not an arguement tgm and one that isn't worth sswering with any deailt because obvisouly i cannot answer with a magic ball how long people will support 16.0401:11
sintrebut currently they are so thats all that matters to me at the moment01:11
tgm4883sintre: I'm just paraphrasing what you said earlier01:13
sintreno you mad a question involing an assertion bud01:14
sintreand inside admit what i said was acurate01:14
tgm4883sintre: you win dude, pat yourself on the back01:14
sintre"so some packages get updated"01:14
sintrei could care less01:14
sintreuseless exchange for both of us01:15
tgm4883couldn't* ;)01:15
sintrewell you win the grammar war gratz01:16
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Guest34533#HailGrasa01:24
Guest34533fuckallyou01:24
puffinzonly if you buy me dinner first01:25
sintrei charge 1k per hours01:26
sintredinner is expected :)01:26
bazhang!ot | sintre01:26
ubottusintre: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:26
* sintre got in trouble for a silly comment01:27
bazhangsintre, take the chit chat elsewhere01:27
stevendaleThanks bazhang01:29
sintrewell go ahead and ban me and my subnet01:30
sintreif i'm not nice enough for this chatroom01:30
bazhangsintre, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, here is support, please01:30
bawla-hi01:34
bawlaDrone?01:34
bawlahi liuxg01:35
liuxgbawla, hi01:36
bawlaare you new here?01:36
bawlahi zialus..01:38
xenial_hi!01:38
bawlahi01:38
bawlahow are you doing?01:38
_28_riahello, after my FireFox got upgraded to V50, I started having problems with video.01:39
bazhangbawla, did you have an ubuntu support issue01:39
_28_riaIt plays, normal @ first, then starts jumping back shortly to old frames. The further it playes, the more old frames it gets, until I only see a loop of jumping back and forth frames to the end of video.01:39
bazhangbawla, if not please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic01:39
bawlayeah @_2801:39
bawlai tried installing airmon-ng and its not working01:41
sintreis it streaming media file from websites , or also media files you have locally on a hdd01:42
sintreif its the former i'd try some different browser and see if it reproduces same problem01:43
_28_riasintre: I never try to play videos with FF from HDD, but from websites. Chrome plays fine.01:44
_28_riaChromium01:44
sintrenot sure how to play local video witha  web browser myself :), maybe if there a lower version of firefox you can downgrade to temporaliy01:45
sintreso seems you have all codecs if chromium is playing them01:45
FManhi01:45
sintreone thing is alot of video sites have moved to the new streaming format like hmilli64 7 (not real exageration there) instead of flash01:46
sintreso maybe if it contained to one site it there issue?01:46
_28_riasintre: I know for sure, that the previous FF version was fine. It just happened, after FF got upgraded to 50. I know how to play videos with FF, just drug && drop it on FF, but I don't see the point of using a web browser to play local videos.01:47
sintrethier grammar police01:47
FManI would like to ask a quick question01:47
_28_riasintre: It's not a site problem, I thought it too, @ first, but then checked on other sites, had the same problem. I am thinking, maybe I can change some hidden setting in FF, related to video, or graphics card, but I don't know what to change. There are so many parameters, many of them I have no clue about.01:48
sintre28> no clue either very odd , maybe report to firefox developers01:49
sintremore people with same problem reporting sometimes gets some attention01:49
sintresometimes01:49
sintre:/01:49
Apachezlooks like Ubuntu at least are heading for EAL2+ http://fmv.se/sv/Verksamhet/CSEC---Sveriges-Certifieringsorgan-for-IT-Sakerhet/fffff/01:49
sintreFman> whats up01:50
howarthFinally got Ubuntu 16.10 installed on my MacBook Pro with EFI32 firmwar01:50
sintreerr weird01:50
sintrejsut checked my firefox states its 50.0,201:50
sintreusing kubtunu lts  no problems with normaly vids on youtube and most websites01:51
howarthhad to resort to the Debian Jessie multi-arch iso and then switch the sources.list to Ubuntu though01:51
_28_riaI am on Unity01:51
sintrehmm well that closes in a bit01:52
sintreno experience with that unfurtately01:52
_28_riaI've already tried to change all kinds of graphics settings, but no change helped01:52
_28_riain graphics driver and compiz01:52
_28_riaI have an nVidia, what do you have?01:52
sintrethis old system is using and old nvidia geforce 8400 gs mobile with a core 2 duo 1.4 mhz01:54
sintre128 mb01:54
_28_riasintre: my FF is also 50.0.2 and Ubuntu 16.04, do you also have 16.04?01:55
sintreyep01:55
sintrelts using 5.6.5 plasma01:55
FManI have been wondering if it is possible to get Ubuntu without Thunderbird pre-installed?01:57
_28_riasintre: oops, I have ATI cards 2 of them HD4350/4550 and HD867001:59
sintre28> well that was off hehe01:59
sintreseems to be a unity / firefox issue atm02:00
rhollananyone home? I need help getting networking working02:00
rhollanon 16.04 with an apparent race to name an interface02:00
sintreonly thing i can think of would be a throw up a post on both support forums , maybe one of them will bite anxd look into it02:00
rhollanIf I boot in recovery and get networking up it works, but I get the dreaded failure when starting Raise networking if I boot straight02:01
sintrethat was directed at 28 , ra sry you came in while typing02:01
_28_riaI just used to have one nvidia and one ati, and I changed one, so both of my cards are from the same manufacturer, but I've forgot. Thought, that replaced ati with nvidia, but it was the otherwise.02:01
rhollanI disabled interface renaming vie kernel options but systemd just tries to get networking up before the interface is recognized02:02
Ben64rhollan: what do you mean you 'disabled interface renaming vie kernel options'02:03
rhollannet.ifnames=0 biosdevname=002:03
Ben64why02:03
sintre@ 28 i'de contact firefox support , atleast report this with all the info grx and so on , mean time use chromium we do have options :)02:03
rhollanotherwise it tries to rename eth0 to eno102:03
Ben64and that's bad because...?02:04
rhollanI can allow it if I boot into recovery and manually bring networking up02:04
rhollanmaybe it's a red herring, but all suggestions to fix the problem revolve around stopping that renaming. Thing is it doesn't help02:04
_28_riasintre: I know, that we have options, except, that I'd prefer to keep my bookmarks in one place.02:05
Ben64rhollan: change it back to default02:05
rhollanI thought I had it working and returned to a straight boot, and it still fails02:05
rhollanDEfault is even worse.02:05
rangemongergreets and stuff02:05
rhollanNone of the vlans are found on subordinate interfaces02:05
rhollanit's just the main interface that it complains about. if I stop the renaming, it is "better".02:06
Ben64it's not being renamed02:06
sintre28@ if you find a solution pls let me know :)02:06
Ben64it's getting a consistent name02:06
rhollanApparently it has something to do with systemd trying to bring up networking on the interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces and the interfaces being discovered02:06
rhollanI know what the renaming is for... it's rather irrelevant to me since I only have one ethernet interface. I'd be happy with or without renaming.02:07
Ben64sounds like you're guessing02:07
rhollanI tried it both ways: most recommendations to "fix" the problem suggest to start with disabling renaming, so I did, and it appeared to work in recovery, but not a straight boot.02:07
rhollanDisabling renaming did not help.02:08
Ben64duh02:08
rhollanApparently we have to "wait" for the interfaces to be discovered before networking can start them up. Something needs to wait, and I don't know how to get that to work on this systemd system02:08
eelstrebori installed firmware-extract but i can't seem to find any info on how to use it - search results indicate that it's a dell product but i guess the package is no longer maintained because the link to dell gives "page not found"02:08
rhollanApparently there are two races: waiting to discover the interfaces, and waiting to give them consistent names02:09
Ben64more guessing02:09
Ben64good luck02:10
rhollanI was hoping someone knew how to get systemd to behave02:10
rhollangoogle has not been helpful02:12
rhollanI don't even know if networkd is running or not. I do know /etc/udev/rules.d don't appear to be consulted02:12
rhollanAll I am trying to do is get a faster VPN box running for my higher speed WAN connectivity: the old one can't do more than 50 Mb/s02:13
rangemongerrhollan: i lot of people would like to know how to get systemd to behave02:14
rangemonger*a lot02:14
AssociateXI did an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt autoremove, now I do not get the login screen, I have to ctrl alt F1 and then startx. What do I need to look at?02:17
rhollanI see lots of suggestions on line but no explanations as to the dependency systemd should be waiting on02:18
AssociateXlogin screen *at * boot up*02:18
rangemongerAssociateX: try re installing xinit and xorg maybe?02:18
rangemongerro reinstalling lightdm02:19
rangemonger*or02:19
_28_riaAssociateX: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm02:19
AssociateXrangemonger, _28_ria /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lightdm is broken or not fully installed02:22
AssociateXyikes.02:22
sintrehmm try to sudo apt update02:22
_28_riasudo dpkg -a --configure02:22
sintresee if there is anything there02:22
_28_riaAssociateX:02:22
AssociateX sudo dpkg -a --configure didn't do anything that I could tell.02:23
AssociateXrunning now sudo apt update02:24
_28_riaAssociateX: now try to do dpkg-reconfigure, suggested earlier again.02:24
AssociateXAll packages are up to date.02:24
AssociateX.02:24
AssociateXsudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm02:25
AssociateX/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lightdm is broken or not fully installed02:25
_28_riaAssociateX: sudo apt -f install02:25
rangemongeroh nice, kernel 4.9s out02:25
AssociateX_28_ria, sudo apt -f install lightdm?02:26
Ben64AssociateX: what version of ubuntu do you have?02:26
_28_riaAssociateX: no: 'sudo apt -f install'02:27
AssociateXBen64, how would I tell?02:27
Ben64you don't know what you installed?02:27
AssociateX_28_ria, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:27
Ben64try 'lsb_release -d'02:27
_28_riaAssociateX: try with lightdm, now:02:28
AssociateXBen64, Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS02:28
rhollanrangemonger02:28
AssociateX_28_ria, ok02:28
_28_riaAssociateX: as you've wanted 'sudo apt-get -f install lightdm'02:28
rhollanrangemonger: yes, it is a half-baked PITA02:28
rangemongerindeed02:29
magnvalHello02:30
AssociateXhow do I tell which dm to use, lightdm or sddm?02:31
sintrehi02:31
_28_riaAssociateX: lightdm, is the default out of the box on recent Ubuntus02:31
AssociateXThanks02:32
_28_riait used to be gdm02:32
adu1Hello?02:32
rangemongerAssociateX: lightdm is fine02:32
sintrehell adu02:32
rangemongerboth are probably fine02:32
sintrehello sry02:32
AssociateX_28_ria, I wonder why it shows that both are installed.02:32
uxfihi folks02:32
rangemongersomething he got probably depended on sddm02:33
_28_riaAssociateX: because, you've probably installed some other window manager, besides unity, or whatever.02:33
AssociateX_28_ria, oh, yeah, and I have.02:33
_28_riasddm comes with other desktop environment02:33
_28_riaI don't know which, though.02:33
AssociateXblackbox, flux, or something like that?02:34
adumagnval: hi02:34
_28_riai see02:34
_28_riadid your problem got solved?02:34
rangemongeri cant remember which one sddm was02:34
_28_riaAssociateX:02:34
AssociateXyes02:34
rangemongeri miss kdm :(02:34
_28_riarangemonger: why don't you install it, then?02:35
rangemonger_28_ria: kde stopped deving it02:35
AssociateXrangemonger, same here.02:35
_28_riaI c02:35
AssociateXnow I just go with whatever comes out of the box.02:36
AssociateXtime for a restart02:36
AssociateXcross fingers02:36
_28_riaAssociateX: good luck02:36
rangemongerit was nice because kde had a control panel module to configure it02:36
rangemongerand it had a lot of options02:36
magnvalIm all jacked up on caffiene02:38
rangemongerheh02:39
sintremods get mad when you chit chat , not related to any support02:39
sintrethen again i just think they don't like me personally02:39
rangemongernah, youre right, they do02:40
magnvalI want to know which chromebook can load linux ubuntu02:40
sintrei used  lubtuntu02:40
rangemongermagnval: probably any that has an intel cpu02:40
rangemongeror amd02:40
sintreony a 1 ghz celeron once02:41
magnvalIm a newb02:41
sintreactually i'm kickin myself , i was thinkin they had this firetablet at blackfriday sale on amazon for 28 bucks02:42
sintrei wonder if anybody has been able to root and install a unbuntu based os on those02:43
rangemongerapparently sddm is what kde now uses02:44
AssociateXWell, I have a gui login screen at boot up now. It does not look like it did before but I don't care. Thank you for the help.02:44
rangemongerwhich one are you using sddm or lightdm?02:45
sintreusing kde now , whats the command to find out range , curious myself02:45
AssociateXlightdm02:45
rangemongerchances are its the opposite of the one you had before02:45
vfwsddm02:45
rangemongerwmctrl -m02:46
HairTodayhello there!  I was wondering if there was a way to "transform" my Ubuntu intsall into a Lubuntu install without having to wipe and reinstall from scratch...02:46
vfwHairToday: Sure02:47
sintrehairtodady- would suggest backing up either way you go about it :) if your like me nothing always goes exactly right02:47
vfw!info lubuntu-desktop | HairToday02:47
ubottuHairToday: lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.72 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; armhf)02:47
vfwHairToday: It's safe...02:47
rangemongerHairToday: install lubuntu-desktop, uninstall ubuntu-desktop, then do sudo apt-get autoremove and autoclean02:48
HairTodayso its just like a KDE install desktop envirnment.  Is that all Lubuntu is is just another DE?02:48
rangemongerHairToday: yes, a minimal one, at that02:48
rangemongerits lite and fast02:48
rangemongerwhereas kde is more feature rich02:48
rangemongerthough lxde is soon getting replaced by lxqt02:49
HairTodayso that would be different than just installing XFCE02:49
Ben64xfce is in xubuntu-desktop02:49
rangemongerfunny thing is, theyve been saying that the next lubuntu is goting to do that for years now02:49
vfwHairToday: Correct02:49
vfwHairToday: http://www.distroscreens.com/2016/04/lubuntu-1604-lts-xenial-xerus.html02:49
vfw(Screenshots)02:50
rangemongerHairToday: xfce is a bit less lite than lx02:50
rangemongerits very well polished02:50
vfwHairToday: I recomment xfce02:50
rangemongerlxde is sometimes a bit too lite02:50
rangemongerby default, its missing common things02:50
rangemongerlike a gui sound mixer02:51
rangemongerone can be added, but its not there by default02:51
HairTodayI only have a 1.3 GB amd processor on this thing - and opening a context window puts my CPU at %80  :O(02:51
rangemongeralso, lxde has some weird behaviours, sometimes02:51
rangemongerid still suggest giving xfce a shot02:52
vfwI think recommend is spelled with a d)02:52
rangemongerimo xfce is the most polished and stable desktop on linux02:52
rangemongerand thats coming from someone who likes kde the best02:52
vfwAnd this is from someone that likes xfce best02:53
HairTodayI'm too inlove with gnome-flashback - and I hate unity with the furious rage of 1,000 supernovas02:53
vfwHairToday: You like mate?02:53
HairTodayno, not mate02:54
rangemongerunity can go away, yeah02:54
rangemongermates decent, imo02:54
rangemongermates the best one to use if you like  compiz02:54
vfwHairToday: Then, you will make a good xfce user.02:54
rangemongergome and cinnamon really need a non compositting mode02:55
rangemongerwell gnomes got flashback so that semi counts02:55
HairTodayI love and neeeeed compiz, I don't like mate.  Mate had too many aesthetic issues02:55
rangemongerHairToday: depends on the distro or the packages you have installed02:55
rangemongerif you install mate-desktop on ubuntu, its all messed up02:56
rangemongeryou need to install ubuntu-mate-desktop02:56
HairTodaywhich I did :OP02:56
kk4ewtlol02:56
rangemongercompiz is boss, works decently with xfce but it just feels the most integrated to mate02:56
kk4ewtrangemonger, its working fine here02:56
kk4ewtmate02:57
HairTodayWell thank you  you guys!  I havn't been on this chat in like.... 6 years? ha02:57
HairTodaythank you for the help and keep up the good work!02:57
vfwI want a DE that stay's out of the way and easy to use.  Don't need eye-candy, I need functionality.02:58
rangemongerits a good community02:58
rangemongercompiz is useful at times02:58
rangemongeri still find the cube to be the best multi desktop implementation out there02:58
rangemongerif you use ctl+alt to manually rotatate it02:58
vfwtoo coplicated.02:59
rangemongeryou can use it to quickly peek at other desktops and back02:59
rangemongeror run another os on one cube face02:59
sintrei just want point and clikc to work :) i'm sa bit simple02:59
rangemongerits a smooth workflow if you use that instead of just dragging a window to the screen edge02:59
vfwI don't do a lot of dragging.02:59
rangemongeralso the tabs pluggin was really useful03:00
rangemongerdunno if thats still there03:00
rangemongeractually, thats one of KDEs best features, you can tab everything03:00
rangemongereven non tabbing apps03:00
sintreuse kde but don't use half the features03:01
_28_riavfw: Video For Windows?03:01
vfw_28_ria: What?03:01
sintrehopefully new plsma version and upgrade will help with duel monitor set up a bit better03:01
sintreseems to have trouble outing to a resolution not on the primary screen03:01
RNevilleHelp , please my mouse just stop responding under 16.04 Ubuntu03:02
vfwOh, no.  Veterans of Foriegn Wars03:02
vfwUSA03:02
rangemongeroh, thats a shame03:02
_28_riavfw: :), I just thought, you've modeled your nick from the abbrev.: VFW (Video For Windows).03:02
vfwnaw...03:02
rangemongerRNeville: usb or bt?03:03
RNevillebt03:03
b-yeeziRNeville: do you still see the cursor?03:03
sintrecould be a dead battery, had some old blu tooth head phones that crapped out on me03:06
sintrenot exactly the mos t helpful but , feel your furstration :)03:06
sintreand of course had every size battery except the ones i needed03:07
b-yeeziI've had problems with bluetooth mice staying connected. I usually have to manually reconnect using keyboard only03:07
sintrei believe ya ,03:08
b-yeeziIs there still a LOCO meeting?03:08
sintrenever in=vested much in bt gear03:08
sintreas long as we still have cheaper corded stuff i'll go with that03:09
sintresome sets up would be a god send though03:09
sintrelike being able to use your stuff in a larger room with big scfreen tv for gaming03:09
sintrebut not my cup of tea03:10
rangemonger2nd that03:10
rangemongerhard wires 5ever03:10
Finetundra_Hey folks, I've installed ubuntu on vbox (host is windows) and when I try to mount a shared folder I get the error: mount: unknown filesystem type sf_test. Does anyone have any idea? I've already verified that ntfs-3g is installed an up to date03:11
Finetundra_The guest is 16.04.103:11
rangemongerFinetundra_: did you install the guest tools in ubuntu?03:11
Finetundra_I did install guest additions. Unless tools is a different thing03:12
rangemongerno, thats what i meant, sorry03:12
rangemongercrap, i just uninstalled vbox too03:13
Finetundra_:(03:14
rangemongerwhen you add a folder, what are the options under it again?03:14
rangemongerits good, but i needed to remove it for xen to work03:14
Finetundra_WWhen you go to add a shared folder it asks for the path, what you want it called, read-oly, auto mount, and make permanent checkboxes are present as well03:15
rangemongerdo automount and make perm, ok everything and then restart the guest03:15
rangemongersome times i find that helps with windows guests03:16
rangemongerim running the opposite setup, lin host, win quests03:16
rangemongerbut it helps for that sometimes03:16
rangemongerill restore my last os snapshot with vbox once i get this xen thing sorted out, then i might be of more help03:17
rangemongerps, if you get into linux, xen is freakin mint03:17
rangemongerbest vm hosting thinger ive ever used03:17
Finetundra_Being honest I've never actually meddled with the desktop VM software xen. I've only used Xenserver03:18
rangemongerthe open source xen packages for linux are the way to go, imo03:19
rangemongerpci passthrough is the money03:19
RNevillestill , no mouse responding - fresh batteries in my bt mouse03:19
sintre:(03:19
Finetundra_rangemonger: Well, that got it to work. Thanks friend03:20
rangemongernp, glad it helped03:20
sintreRN>  have any other blue tooth device to test your bt card?03:21
sintrethat you know has worked in the past03:21
BubbelyHi03:22
rangemongeryo03:22
sintrehi bubbely03:22
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BubbelyMy laptop is stuck at purple screen and wont  off when I hold power button nor does alt Ctrl delete work03:23
Guest40016guys, im just connecting an hd 7770. lshw -c video gives me "driver = radeon" I don't know what's currently the best amd driver to use, would this be it?03:23
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BubbelyAny ideas03:24
Guest40016Bubbely, have you tried holding ctrl alt prntscrn while typing r e i s u b?03:24
Guest40016if that works it should reboot your computer without needing to hold the power button down03:24
BubbelyDoes nothingnothing03:25
rhollanis it normal for ubuntu 16 server to not have a login prompt on the console once it boots03:25
Finetundra_rangemonger: I do have one last question if you don't mind03:25
kk4ewtBubbely,  control-alt f2 does it give you a terminal03:25
Finetundra_rangemonger: Is it possible to not mount it as root?03:26
kk4ewtFinetundra_, root does all the mount but you can give a mount other permissions03:26
rangemongerFinetundra_: hmm, i dont know actually, i never thought about it03:27
kk4ewtafter its mounted03:27
kk4ewtman mount man fstab03:28
rangemongerBubbely: im guessing if power doesnt go off after a 30sec hold, its maybe a hardware issue03:29
sintrebubb> are you using a second pc to use the chat?03:29
BlackKrakenhey guys i need some help here03:31
BubbelyIm using a tablet and it suddenly powered off03:32
rangemongerwhich tab?03:32
rangemongerBlackKraken: go ahead, we will try03:32
BlackKrakenstuck on ubuntu boot through initramfs even after trying pretty well everything03:33
Bashing-omGuest40016: in 16.04+ AMD is going full bore support for us as open source, the driver is provided ( your case, radeon)in the kernel . There is nothing else realistically that you can do .03:33
UniFreakI can't get xdebug to work. I'm using nginx and php-fpm. after I run `pecl install xdebug`, then added `zend_extension='where/xdebug.so/in'`, then run `sudo service php5-fpm restart`. I did a phpinfo(), there is no xdebug03:33
rangemongerblackflow: this is a fresh install?03:35
BlackKrakenheres my log please whatever you can help with is appreciated...my hardware is still under warranty and therefore i cannot open it paste.ubuntu.com/2361701603:35
BlackKrakenit was originally a dual boot that i eventually took over with ubuntu03:36
sintrewhy can't you open it?03:36
sintrehow would they know any way or the other03:36
sintrejust curious tghe logic there03:36
BlackKrakeni would have to eject drive, there are stickers...03:36
BlackKrakenits an hp so they are very picky i would rather not chance it03:37
Shorty__BlackKraken: uh, that's illegal in most places03:37
Shorty__you can open hardware03:37
sintreok , just diesembled a budget notebooks a big pain from dell , no stickers found on inside03:37
Shorty__it's user servicable03:37
sintrethey wouldn't know the difference03:37
sintrei understand your concern though03:38
BlackKrakenok, at a last option i may eject it then03:38
rangemongerwas it a fresh ubuntu install?03:39
BlackKrakenbut i dont see where the problem is i have repaired boot lots...same with repatitioned...i spent last 32hrs trying this.. i have googled it as much as possible, i am newer to comp programming but have basic understanding of how it works, and a fresh install is just where theres no os on the drive you want to install on right03:40
rangemongerbah, this damn mousepad is terrible03:40
BlackKrakenif not then it was a dual boot with windows 1003:40
BlackKrakenand haha i hate mousepads :(03:40
sintrewhat is the firmare one target system?03:41
rangemongerthis one has problems, mouse just randomly jump/clicks all over03:41
rangemongerits really flimsy03:41
BlackKrakeni installed ubuntu on my external hd and it booted and worked fine but i restart it and BOOM stuck at damn initramfs menu :(03:42
BlackKrakenand mine does the same on hp stream03:42
BlackKrakeni hate it, i need a better mouse03:42
rangemongerever since everyone copied apple with its click pads, things have gotten crappy with them03:43
sintredo you want it installed on your interal hdd black03:43
BlackKrakenyes i kinda do03:44
sintrewas gonna say a problem i came across is the partition table03:44
sintregave me two weeks of headaces actually03:45
BlackKrakenand yup cause apple was $#@T03:45
sintreUEFI  and GTP partition tables03:45
sintreif you want it installed in UEFI you need to do it manually and not trust installer to change it for you03:45
sintreif you want it in older legacy/ms bios mode then partition or make sure it's partitioned that way03:46
sintregtp for UEFI  and ms/dos for older legacy03:46
BlackKraken@sintre alright thank you i am going with a newer version but kegacy works better and lets me boot usb03:47
sintreyou can use new verios , but install it different03:47
sintrejjust make sure oyu change partition table in partition managet to gtp03:47
sintrebefore install03:48
sintreyes legacy greast, at installer it might say something like force uefi install03:49
BlackKrakenok so sorry to ask this but sintre how would i change the partition to gtp (Nub question) sorry03:49
sintrethen click go back and it will let you conintue03:49
sintregot any partition manager handy?03:49
BlackKrakenlots, i have the comp beside me03:49
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sintreif you can boot a live cd/usb03:49
BlackKrakenand have the luinux repair and live boot usb03:50
sintregparted maybe?03:50
BlackKrakeni have come at this from all angles man xD03:50
BlackKrakenand through gparted i dont get that option :( ill check quick03:50
sintregparted if your starting from scratch this is what i'd do03:50
sintrefirst deactive swap03:51
sintrethen delete all seen partitions03:51
BlackKrakenhow woul i deativate my swap?03:51
sintrethen from device go to create partition table03:51
sintre"partioon swap off"03:51
BlackKrakennow space between and after is that needed on clean install or full install?03:52
sintrepartition sry gettin a lil tips here03:52
BlackKrakenits ok thank you03:52
sintreif nothing on there needed to be back up delete all03:52
sintrethen hit apply operaation03:52
BlackKrakenits a new comp so no files03:52
sintrewell no file now lol03:53
sintrewe'll work on that here03:53
sintreso you choice UEFI or legacy you said you wanted legacy for boot options03:53
sintrei choxe that as well03:53
sintreso at file table pick ms/dos03:54
sintreand create that03:54
sintrethen go to new / partition03:54
sintreand select ext 4 file for whole drive03:54
sintreand hit apply again03:54
BlackKrakenok so file table is gparted main right03:55
engineer-pearlOn Ubuntu 16.0.4, I am at the poin where I have a service that exists, but not a service that works. The service is supposed to start up a screen and do some basic tasks. It's current type is set to "idle" because I don't want it running until everything else is set up (it runs git in the beginning, as well as a couple other processes, and I don't know them in-depth enough to know what to...03:56
engineer-pearl...give them as dependencies). http://paste.ubuntu.com/23605644/ is the output of service <name> status03:56
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sintreshould be under device03:56
sintrein gparted program03:56
engineer-pearlCan someone please help the noob (me) figure out what is going on? I'm nnot doing a good job at figuring out what to search for03:56
BlackKrakengot it so partition whole drive as ext3?03:56
BlackKrakensrry 403:56
sintreext4 AFTEr you mad the msdos file table03:57
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sintreyea thats it03:57
BlackKrakengot that part lol and then its clean install? from live usb?03:58
sintreif your in live cd enciroment and can install from there start , , when it asks to force UEFI say go back or no , not sure the exact live media your using03:58
BlackKrakenor will it be i gotta make root and home and swap03:58
sintreyes03:58
sintreno now let the installer do it thing it should only want to use half tgthe drive03:58
sintreyou can resize it later after install03:58
sintreyes make sure to keep in mind what i mentioned or the installed will install incorrectly03:59
BlackKrakenwould it be an idea to run os uninstaller?03:59
sintrethought you just formatted and redid partition table?03:59
sintrejust reboot from live media like nothing ever happend03:59
BlackKrakenyuppers i got partition made and im running install, im hoping it works04:00
sintreit will04:00
BlackKrakenyour awesome man thanks so much this had me stumped cause there were no disk errors04:01
sintretook me two weeks of reading , nope guantees though04:01
sintrebut hopefully you have better luck than me04:01
sintrei was about to send my notebook back actuasally got me so upset04:01
BlackKrakendidnt work for you?04:01
sintreyep04:02
BlackKrakendid u figure it out?04:02
lipengha04:02
sintreonce i read like 5 hours of articles on this dumb firmare system04:02
lipenghai  hai04:02
sintrehey its xmas needs to be hhohoh04:02
BlackKrakenhahaha FOR SURE, HO HO HO xD04:03
sintrecmon we gotta get better drunken sanatas going04:03
sintrehahahherhhoohohoh04:03
lipeng你好04:03
sintrei'm sure thats a chinese insult of sorts there04:04
BlackKrakenhey sintre could i ask ya to shoot me an email by chance bud you seem like a good programmer and sometimes i just have easy questions and hahahaha04:04
darkbluesure04:04
sintreyear of the horse aint it04:04
BlackKrakenu just called my mother the ugly duckling xD jk04:04
* sintre is no programmer04:04
sintrei'm just sutbborn04:04
sintreproblem  and i will find solution04:04
BlackKrakenwell sometimes its good to be able to bounce things off someone ya know?04:05
sintreand not email tonight , but you can find me in #kubuntu04:05
BlackKrakenperf04:05
BlackKrakenwell ima try this Wiush me luck guyz!!!04:05
sintrelets get this installed for you tonight then see if i know what i'm talkin bout :)04:05
BlackKrakenexactly:D :D04:06
BlackKrakenand honestly i can kinda see u do, as do i but it still stumps me sometimes04:06
BlackKrakeni make apps and things but thats math mostly not even really rogramming04:06
sintrenot good at math honestly04:07
sintreuse calculator :)04:07
sintrealthough would be good to learn to work out sales tax with some mental math04:08
sintrei'm afraid if i learned i might go back to some stores and do something i regret :)04:08
UniFreaksintre: why insult?04:08
sintrewhat are you talking about uniffreak?04:09
sintrereally now explain this to me04:09
sintreno in sult to anybody04:09
sintrewas trying to help black04:09
UniFreakI mean why did you thought 你好 is a chinese insult04:09
BlackKrakenand honeslty im not good at it either and naw no ones insulting anyone accept for me insulting myself for being dumb04:10
BlackKrakenand hahaha04:10
UniFreakyou might have bad expierence with Chinese04:10
sintrewhy uniffreak do you want to start a darn fight , it was a joke, if you want to get some real insults if it wasn't a pg channel you can send me a tell04:10
sintrei don't speak chinese04:10
sintreno clue what it said04:11
sintremost here don't04:11
Ben64please try to keep this channel on topic04:11
BlackKrakenback on subject. :P its going ok so far04:12
sintreas expected04:12
BlackKrakentrue04:12
lotuspsychjewe have a nice #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss channel, use them wisely04:13
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rangemongerBubbely: im ready to try again, getting it04:23
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rangemongerMetalGearSolid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNJ1B_2b17s04:31
cfhowlettrangemonger, no random video posting spam please04:32
rangemonger:( sorry04:32
xanguaCan I make an OEM install with any of the Ubuntu flavors? Or do I need a different iso?04:37
cfhowlettyes, any of the buntus can go OEM04:37
cfhowlettnot 100% sure about ubuntu server however.04:37
xanguacfhowlett: I understand you can install additional software, but how about change a user settings?04:38
cfhowlettxangua, yes, you can pre-install user accounts.  in a standard install, they would then choose locale and language, but you can do these in OEM install as well.04:39
rangemongerxangua: yes you can04:39
rangemongerare you trying to make an installer iso that has your customized os and user account?04:40
ilzolendemy computer has spontaneously stopped letting me use the menu bar at the top04:41
ilzolende(i'm on ubuntu using the xubuntu ... desktop environment? windowing thing?)04:41
ilzolendewhich is a problem because i like to run apps in fullscreen mode, and minimize windows, and use said menu bar to navigate between windows04:41
ilzolendeshould i just reboot or is this a problem with a more obvious solution?04:41
ilzolendeit still shows changes in volume or highlights the names of selected windows, it just doesn't do anything when clicked04:41
xanguarangemonger: not my user account but at least some changes like keyboard shortcuts, Firefox add-ons04:41
rangemongerxangua: there are 2 good progs for this.... one sec, ill find them04:42
xanguaThanks04:42
rangemongerxangua: systemback is one, but i cant figure out how to ditch the user account on that one04:43
rangemongeryou can somehow04:43
engineer-pearlIs there something weird about how systemd and screen interact?04:44
rangemongerxangua: refracta, pinguy and remastersys04:44
engineer-pearlI've gotten to the point where I no longer have an exited process or an error code, but it's deffinately not working04:45
rangemonger"it's deffinately not working" -systemd words to live by :P04:45
rangemongerxangua: http://pinguyos.com/2015/09/pinguy-builder-an-app-to-backupremix-buntu/04:46
rangemongerits based on remastersys04:47
engineer-pearl... Okay so what's the advice?04:47
samantha36amantha3666604:47
rangemongerengineer-pearl: sorry, i dont know, i was just taking a jab at something that always seems to cause greif04:47
rangemonger*grief04:48
engineer-pearlAlso what is the helpful log info? there seem to be a lot of places to get it and journalctl -xe will print LOTS fast while service <name> status is currently in denial04:48
rangemongerxangua: your best bet is to make a virtual machine with a clean ubuntu, snapshot it, and then mess around with it and those tools, until you spit out a good iso04:49
zhengshengsomeone here04:49
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engineer-pearlOh. :/04:51
rangemongerdoes kde neon have a chan?04:51
rangemongerit does04:52
engineer-pearlgah who knew getting a process to start when the computer does is so hard?04:52
pavlosrangemonger, #kde-neon04:53
rangemongerengineer-pearl: does it have to be when the comp starts or is login ok?04:53
Sean_McGwouldn't upstart or systemd handle that04:53
FleeboxHow do I open installed GUI apps from the terminal? In OS X I would do 'open -a MyApp'. How is it done in Ubuntu 16?04:53
engineer-pearlI would prefer when it started up so that it would be able to restore itself from a crash and anyone in the area could fix it by rebooting (like say if there's a power outage)04:54
Sean_McGFleebox: doesn't work without an X session04:54
rangemongerFleebox: just type the name of the app04:54
FleeboxSean_McG I'm not04:54
Sean_McGbut yeah basically just type the name04:55
rangemongerFleebox: just type leafpad to launch leafpad04:55
Fleeboxrangemonger Doesn't work. Tried 'Synapse'04:55
rangemongertried with no cap?04:55
FleeboxSomething with Firefox04:56
FleeboxYes,04:56
Fleebox*same thing04:56
rangemongerfirefox should work04:56
Fleebox"command not found: Firefox"04:56
Sean_McGno caps!04:56
rangemongerno caps04:56
rangemongerlol04:56
vfwFleebox: No caps04:56
vfwFleebox: The tab key is your friend.04:56
rangemongeri dunno about appletosh but linux is case sensative04:56
cfhowlettrangemonger, when in doubt, use tab-complete04:56
vfwFleebox: firefox04:57
FleeboxAha, misspelled the one without the initial capital letter04:57
Fleeboxfirefox works.04:57
rangemongercfhowlett: indeed, i always do04:57
rangemongertakes to long to type everything out04:57
FleeboxHow about everything else? Can I fire them up detached from the console, like 'open'? (without using &, nohup and so on)04:58
Sean_McGtabcomplete is a godsend on a slow link04:58
vfwFleebox: fire<tab-key>  /fyi04:58
vfwFleebox: etc. etc. etc .04:58
Fleeboxvfw thanks, that I know :)04:59
vfwFleebox: Almost no command uses caps.04:59
rangemongersynapse is its own name oto04:59
rangemonger*too04:59
Fleeboxvfw Not outside the GUI sphere sure, but all gui apps start with a capital letter04:59
vfwFleebox: And they are *all* case sensitive.04:59
rangemongerFleebox: the gui enteries area just titles, you could rename them to whatever05:00
rangemongerFleebox: like a shortcut in windows05:00
Sean_McGls /usr/bin/[A-Z]*05:00
vfwFleebox: Those are just display names, it's the command that counts.05:01
FleeboxAll this is a few abstraction layers below what I'm looking for. I'm getting there's a better way to do it then having to translate the name05:01
Sean_McGhmm, odd, it showed everything05:01
vfwFleebox: "translate"?05:01
FleeboxMap the GUI name to the terminal05:01
rangemongernot any different than windows05:02
vfwFleebox: You are not mapping a GUI name to a terminal, you are simply using a command to start an application.05:02
FleeboxYes, that's mapping. The GUI says one name and the terminal using another.05:02
vfwFleebox: No it's not.05:03
Fleeboxvfw What would you call the translation beteen names?05:03
rangemongerthere is no translation, its just a shortcut05:04
rangemongerlike making a shortcut on windows05:04
sintreI win I'll call it linking?05:04
vfwFleebox: You can learn a few things if you want.  The choice is yours.05:04
Fleeboxrangemonger What does that have to do with me?05:04
rangemongeri keep thinking vfw = wfw = windows for workgroups :P05:04
FleeboxYeah. Haven't used Windows since 2004.05:05
rangemongerFleebox: the things in the gui are just shortcuts or links, just like windows does05:05
rangemongereven windows 95 did this05:05
Fleeboxrangemonger I dont think anyone claimed anything else05:05
rangemongeri not sure what youre getting at05:06
rangemongerpretty much everything states its name in the gui, just use the same name for the command, minus caps05:06
FleeboxYeah, again. No one said anything else.05:07
rangemongerok, then everythings in order then :D05:07
sintreseems a smeantics type diagreement :)05:07
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FleeboxI'm still looking for 'open -a' from OS X.05:08
Fleeboxsintre That's the problem05:08
vfwA quick way to start an app: Alt-F2 and type the name of the command.05:08
FleeboxMy vocabulary isn't the same as yours05:08
rangemongerFleebox: there is no open05:08
rangemongerits not osx05:08
Fleeboxrangemonger No one claimed it would be.05:09
FleeboxFor both statements05:09
rangemongerman, im lost as to what youre going for here, cant lie05:09
sintrefirebox> yes my sepell checker isn't working tonight sry05:09
sintrespell haha05:09
Fleeboxrangemonger You're assuming to much. Ask if you dont understand what I mean.05:09
* sintre hits pc to try to make spell check work05:10
Fleeboxvfw Is there a name for it? F2 is a bit to far away so need to remap it05:11
vfwAlt-F2  (On the keyboard. Hold down Alt and hit F2)05:11
vfwFleebox: Oh wait... Are you on a Mac?05:12
Fleeboxvfw Hehe, I know where the keys are as hinted by the 'to far away' :)05:12
vfwFleebox: I'm sorry...05:12
Fleeboxvfw No, not this machine.05:12
vfwFleebox: Oh ok...05:13
Fleeboxvfw Can rebind it somehow?05:13
vfwFleebox: A couple of tools I use a lot to start apps, or to switch between apps:  Alt-F2 and Alt-Tab05:14
FleeboxCan I rebind/map alt-f2 somehow? Have been looking trough the menus, but can't find anything05:15
vfwFleebox: Why?  It's already mapped to Run Program.05:16
Fleeboxvfw Like a said, to far away05:16
vfwFleebox: And it is cross-platform.05:16
vfwFleebox: Are you not previously a PC user?05:17
FleeboxNo. OS X since 02 and *nix since 0405:17
FleeboxI guess OS X is included in the *nix family when to think of it05:18
darthHi All05:18
FleeboxAnyhow. Remap, would be nice.05:18
sintrehi darth05:19
FleeboxI'll break my fingers having to reach up to the FN row05:19
vfwFleebox: Sorry, all this is lost on you.  Between Linux and PC machines, Alt-F2  Alt-Tab  Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v are all universal.05:19
vfw.. and others...05:19
Fleeboxvfw Haven't used any of them in 12 years as I haven't used a GUI outside OS X in 12 years05:20
vfwAlt-F2  Alt-Tab  Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v = Run Program, Switch between running windows, Copy and Paste.05:20
FleeboxNot much to tab in a terminal05:20
FleeboxIsn't ctrl-c for copying?05:20
FleeboxAha, sorry05:20
FleeboxMissread it05:20
vfwFleebox: You mean terminal?  Or console?05:21
vfwYes, Ctrl-c is copy, Ctrl-v is paste05:21
FleeboxDidin't know there was a difference.05:21
vfwFleebox: But in a GUI terminal it is:  Shift-Ctl-c and Shift-Clt-v05:22
FleeboxHehe, it's like learning how to walk again. Having to stair on my finders to figure out where they are :p05:23
Fleeboxvfw What where they suppose to do? Nothing much is happening05:23
sintrenot meant to be an insult but what one earth are you doing that you need so many keyboard short cuts , instantly05:24
sintrepoint and click a lil to slow?05:24
vfwFleebox: If you hithlight some text, then you can copy and paste.05:25
Fleeboxsintre I usually dont use a mouse so in my case having to reach for the mouse would be slow:er05:25
FleeboxIt's placed behind the screen (to avoid reaching for it by accident)05:25
Fleeboxvfw I ment ctrl+shift+c05:26
sintrei can see that , i have a gooffy light button i'm trying to get to work like it does in windows ten it switches from battery charging to hdd activity05:26
sintreswitched from windows ten doesn't come on for hdd05:26
sintrethere is an enimga i surely won't solve05:27
FleeboxPro tip; Stop using a mouse :)05:27
cfhowlett!ping05:34
ubottupong!05:34
FleeboxAha, the 'alt' key opens application navigation05:34
Fleeboxnice05:34
kk4ewtthe alt or the super05:35
sintrewell innfirefox just give me menues at top :)05:36
sintrehey had to hit button sinse mentoned05:36
sintrei'm off to bed 12:37 here  , have fun guys05:37
Metamorphosishow to find if a cpu supports 64 bit or not? i'm not sure which edition of ubuntu should i download.05:43
fyfamd64 and i38605:43
rangemongerMetamorphosis: what cpu is it?05:43
cfhowlett!64bit | meta05:44
ubottumeta: AMD64 and Intel 64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. Consider using 64-bit if your memory ussage exceeds 4GB. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit05:44
MetamorphosisIntel Celeron 925 @ 2.30GHz  Penryn 45nm Technology05:44
MetamorphosisAnd it has 1 gb ddr2 memory05:44
rangemongerill look it up05:44
rangemongerlaptop?05:45
cfhowlettMetamorphosis, 1GB?  technically, yes ubuntu can run there.  but it will be damn slow.  suggest xubuntu / lubuntu instead05:45
rangemongeroh yeah, 2nd that05:45
Metamorphosisyeah its an old laptop, i'm trying to install linux on it and donate it to some kid05:45
Bashing-omMetamorphosis: ' grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo ' . If you see "lm" in red, it's 64 bits. Otherwise it's 32 bits.05:46
cfhowlett!lubuntu | Metamorphosis,05:46
ubottuMetamorphosis,: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.05:46
rangemongeraccording to intel, it does 64bit05:46
Metamorphosisthanks alot guys.05:46
rangemongernp05:46
rangemongerhttps://ark.intel.com/products/53692/Intel-Celeron-Processor-925-1M-Cache-2_30-GHz-800-MHz-FSB05:46
Metamorphosisso you guys suggest a 32 or 64 bit version of lubuntu?05:47
cfhowlett64bit lubuntu 16.04.1 (Long Term Support)05:48
rangemongerim guessing a 64 will eat a bit more memory05:48
rangemongerthough that may be more of a windows thing05:49
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mym0mdancto see a photo from a cleavage competition at a bar in dallas she worked at msg to chat06:55
rangemongerjee thats not spam....06:56
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Mitchelhi07:04
dnssoulhello all07:04
ajhlinuxuser3Hello, I am facing a dilemma where I want to reach my VM's in their subnet from another pc, but they also need to access the Internet.  What is the best way to accomplish this?07:04
rangemongerhey07:05
rangemongerbridge them to your rotuer07:05
rangemonger*router07:05
rangemongeri find that to be the easiest way07:05
ajhlinuxuser3If I do that (instead of the default NAT) then they can't access the Internet because the gateway doesn't know that subnet (and can't be programmed to add routes)07:06
solo-dolo-sokofukerz07:07
ajhlinuxuser3rangemonger: I was thinking that I could create a VPN inside my LAN, but I don't know if there is a better way to accomplish what I need.07:08
rangemongeryou just want the VMs accessable from the outside, and to be able to access the net?07:09
ajhlinuxuser3yes07:09
rangemongerbridging basically wires the vm to the router07:09
rangemongeras if it were a real pc going to the router07:09
rangemongereasiest way, by far07:09
rangemongerits what i do07:09
rangemongerwhat vm program are you using?07:09
rangemongervirtualbox?07:09
ajhlinuxuser3rangemonger: lxc07:10
ajhlinuxuser3It doesn't matter which virtualization I am using, this is a routing problem.07:10
rangemongeroh ok, im not familiar with almost anything with lxc yet07:10
rangemongerwell, it matters a bit, you can set bridging easily from within vbox07:11
ajhlinuxuser3say VM#1 has ip 192.168.122.2, and I bridge it to the router.07:11
rangemongerin vbox you just set the vnic to use bridge mode and thats it07:11
ajhlinuxuser3Then when it tries to access the internet, the gateway at 192.168.2.1 won't know how to handle the traffic coming from 192.168.122.207:11
rangemongerhence my asking if you used it07:11
zhengshengzhengsheng07:14
zhengshenghello07:14
ajhlinuxuser3rangemonger: The other solution I thought of was to use iptables on the vm host so that it NATs to all addresses except the 192.168.2.0 network.07:15
rangemongerajhlinuxuser3: im a bit hit and miss with that stuff so i wouldnt give you a clear answer unless i had time to mess with it myself07:16
rangemongerbut i know that vbox does it super simply07:16
rangemongervmware too07:16
zhengshengwhat07:16
zhengshengcan you speak chinese07:16
rangemongeri cannot07:17
ajhlinuxuser3rangemonger: and in your example, the vm would basically be talking on the hosts network as if it were one of the hosts... except right now my network IP addresses are all used up!07:17
ajhlinuxuser3So I have to go with a subnet.07:17
zhengshengi am stupid07:17
zhengshengsorry07:18
rangemongerdont be so hard on yourself07:18
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ajhlinuxuser3I think my situation requires a forum post... I was hoping to get a quick answer so I could start researching the method tonight, oh well...07:19
rangemongerajhlinuxuser3: i see... youre using the whole 0-254 range?07:19
ajhlinuxuser3Yes, the whole range is already used up by bridged vms, and I'm going for more vms.07:19
ajhlinuxuser3*by hardware machines, and also bridged vms07:20
rangemongerwow07:20
zhengshengwhere are you07:21
ajhlinuxuser3afk, posting to forum...07:21
zhengshengwhere are you come from07:21
rangemongercanada07:22
rangemongeryou?07:22
zhengshengchina07:22
zhengshengcanada speak english?07:22
rangemongerenglish and french07:23
rangemongerbut most of the english speaking people dont know french, like me :)07:23
zhengshengI am not good at english07:25
rangemongeryoure not too bad, better than i am at any other language07:25
rangemongerajhlinuxuser3: why so many VMs, just 'cause?07:26
zhengshengthank you07:26
ajhlinuxuser3rangemonger: I might be a little insane.07:26
rangemongerajhlinuxuser3: ah, exploring the results, good reason07:26
ajhlinuxuser3rangemonger: the basic idea is to learn ways to manager multiple systems easily.07:27
ajhlinuxuser3I know that I only need 2 systems in theory, but the more, the merrier!07:27
rangemongeri understand07:27
pnduwtest07:27
ajhlinuxuser3I also am (quite evidently) getting a lesson in routing.07:28
zhengshengUbuntu and windows07:28
ajhlinuxuser3Like for example, I found out that my NAT solution prevents the VMs from talking to other subnets.07:28
rangemongerajhlinuxuser3: yeah, all good reasons, really07:28
rangemongerthats one of the things i wanted to mess with too, to understand07:29
rangemongerbut with vmware and vbox first07:29
ajhlinuxuser3I'll share my post when I'm done, so you can see my plight in greater clarity.07:29
rangemongerbut for now, my current bag is vt-d passthrough07:29
rangemongerooh, nice, thanks07:29
zhengshengdo you play league of legends07:32
zhengshenghow old are you07:34
rangemongerme, no07:34
rangemongerearly 30s07:34
zhengshengok07:34
zhengsheng这个能发中文吗07:34
zhengsheng看得懂不07:34
shelleyhehe07:35
zhengsheng厉害了07:35
zhengsheng你是哪里人07:35
ducassezhengsheng: please stop that07:35
ducasse!cn | zhengsheng07:35
ubottuzhengsheng: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw07:35
shelleyChina07:35
zhengshengsorry07:35
zhengshengme too07:35
shelley你好07:36
zhengshengwoshi  zhe jiang de07:36
shelleywuhan07:36
zhengsheng66666607:36
rangemonger10 bucks this isnt about ubuntu07:37
SebthreeBQM10HDhi07:52
arunsFolks, I am using certbot, nginx, ubuntu 14.04 website hosted on AWS to set up SSL enabled site, I am getting ssl-handshake error, look at this --> http://dpaste.com/2AW612K kindly suggest solution to fix this problem07:55
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SebthreeBQM10HDso so quiet in here08:03
cfhowlettsocial chit chat is in the other channels.  our ubuntu channel is quiet because (1) sleepytime among the users or (2) ubuntu is working as expected08:03
SebthreeBQM10HDcfhowlett, I meant quit for support issues08:04
SebthreeBQM10HDprobably around at least quarter of people are sleeping, since Ameircans etc08:04
SebthreeBQM10HDtheoceaniscool  that's a interesting nick08:05
SebthreeBQM10HDand it can be hot08:05
Welastvilhi people! good morning and good day for everyone!08:14
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, hi morning08:15
cfhowlettubuntu is *global* so ... greetings08:15
Welastviljust swiched on my computer and when it louded the OS it says: "System problem detected, do you want to report the probme?08:16
cfhowlettWelastvil, say "yes" ...08:16
Welastvilhow can I find out which problem is it?08:16
cfhowlettit will be in your logs08:16
Welastviloh/// just said no...08:16
Welastvilin my logs.08:16
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, doesn't matter so much if you reported it or not, but yes  may be in a log file08:17
SebthreeBQM10HDthe issue08:17
Welastvilof.08:17
Welastvilhow do I take a look in this log file?08:17
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu's logs08:17
SebthreeBQM10HDthe OS logs08:17
* SebthreeBQM10HD doesnt' tend to bother with logs, but cfhowlett probably can answer how to find them08:18
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cfhowlettI appreciate the vote of confidence but ... reading through output of dmesg might be incorrect08:18
SebthreeBQM10HD!logs08:19
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/08:19
SebthreeBQM10HDno not htat08:19
SebthreeBQM10HDthat08:19
cfhowlettWelastvil, might be in boot.log08:19
ikevinuse journalctl08:20
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cfhowlettWelastvil, more /var/log/boot.log will give you a page-by-page output08:20
Welastvilpermission denied08:21
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, of course since system files you'll need to sudo08:22
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, terminal.  and then  sudo hmm actsaully I GUESS  gksudo still since gedit08:22
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, gksudo   gedit /var/log/boot.log try that08:22
theoceaniscoolSebthreeBQM10HD, Thanks08:23
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, or open it some other way in some text editor08:23
Welastvilok08:24
theoceaniscoolWelastvil, The easier way to see at least what has failed is by reading the report that the problem handler prepares08:24
theoceaniscoolWelastvil, At least it tells you which executable thrown the error08:25
SebthreeBQM10HD!gksudo08:26
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)08:26
Welastvilempty folder08:27
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, did you try the command ?08:28
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, when did you get the ystem problem emessage ?08:28
Welastvil!gksudo?08:28
ubottuWelastvil: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:28
SebthreeBQM10HD!gksudo08:28
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)08:28
WelastvilI got it when I just started up my os today08:29
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, on a new install, or an os upate or what?08:29
Welastvilno08:29
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen08:30
SebthreeBQM10HDafter what08:30
Welastviljust starting up...swichng on computer08:30
SebthreeBQM10HDsystem problem detected08:30
SebthreeBQM10HDon say the top right08:30
Welastvilafter os loud08:30
SebthreeBQM10HDa little box ?08:30
Welastvilyeas08:30
rangemongerhello peeps08:30
theoceaniscoolrangemonger, Hi08:30
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, yes I have had that kind of thing a few times before08:30
Welastvilso08:30
Welastvilwhat does it mean?08:30
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, but it's usaully after doing something to the system, such as installing updats that didn't quite work, or a ppa that made things go wrong08:31
Welastvilok08:31
SebthreeBQM10HDso what did you do08:31
SebthreeBQM10HDbefore that?08:31
Welastvilthere is any way to solve it?08:31
SebthreeBQM10HDanything?08:31
theoceaniscoolSebthreeBQM10HD, Maybe automatic updates?08:31
WelastvilI don remember08:32
SebthreeBQM10HDtheoceaniscool, Welastvil sometimes even the standard usual updates can break things, but those usaully go ok08:32
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, ok the logs uhmmm right, but I guess can try and do this the other way even08:32
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastvil, re boot the computer, come back here, if or assuming it comes up again, show us what came up, screenshots, or take a mesage off it or something08:33
Welastvilok08:34
SebthreeBQM10HDtheoceaniscool, so if he comes back, and the error box is there, you said there should be a way to get info off that?08:35
SebthreeBQM10HDI guess a detials button or something08:36
theoceaniscoolSebthreeBQM10HD, You can see the inform that the problem detector prepares to send08:36
theoceaniscoolSebthreeBQM10HD, At least you see the executable and the error code08:36
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah been a while since that,  well actsaully if I turn my lap top on and use that08:36
SebthreeBQM10HDI'll have something like that08:36
SebthreeBQM10HD,but that was since something I did before08:36
SebthreeBQM10HDtheoceaniscool, well let's see if he comes back in  the next few minutes or so I guess08:37
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WeLastevil2hi08:37
WeLastevil2its me08:37
SebthreeBQM10HDtheoceaniscool, in the meain time though.... h eh why do you call yourself that anywa y :d08:37
SebthreeBQM10HDoh there he is08:37
WeLastevil2 how do I send you a screeshot?08:37
SebthreeBQM10HDWeLastevil2, ok the box is up ?08:37
WeLastevil2yeah08:37
SebthreeBQM10HD!screenshot08:37
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.08:37
SebthreeBQM10HDWeLastevil2, you can see the info the error  reporter would send08:38
theoceaniscoolWeLastevil2, Press "Report Problem..."08:38
theoceaniscoolWeLastevil2, Then, "Show Details"08:38
SebthreeBQM10HDWeLastevil2, I think  theoceaniscool can guide you now08:38
WeLastevil2I did it08:38
theoceaniscoolSebthreeBQM10HD, After that, maximize all the options, do the screenshot and send it08:38
WeLastevil2 and : sorry! something went wrong and you could not report this problem08:38
WeLastevil2something like that08:38
theoceaniscoolWeLastevil2, Ok, then I'm lost08:39
SebthreeBQM10HDWeLastevil2, oh no error details ?08:39
WeLastevil2I could not see any error details08:39
WeLastevil2let me try it again08:39
rangemongeranyone using btrfs might want to see this https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg60903.html08:40
SebthreeBQM10HDtheoceaniscool, it's probably nothing for hrem tro worry about as such,,but I supouse a error mesage box is a error message box08:40
amaury1now I started up again08:42
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Welastevil2hi08:42
Welastevil2started afain08:42
Welastevil2no error this time.08:42
EGiPHOLOCAUST DEPROGRAMMING COURSE: self from a lifetime of Holo-brainwashing about “Six Million” Jews “gassed” in “Gas Chambers Disguised as Shower Rooms”08:43
theoceaniscoolWelastevil2, I would say that the ideal reaction is sweeping it under the rug, but it sounds a little unprofessional08:44
Welastevil2hahaha08:44
Welastevil2what do you mean by that?08:44
theoceaniscoolWelastevil2, Ignoring it until the next error08:44
Welastevil2ok08:44
Welastevil2I'll do it08:44
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, yep probably nothing to worry about as such, but an error message box, is an error message box08:44
Welastevil2it is already under the rug08:44
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, well you can re install even ::d08:45
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, re install no error box :) or probably not08:45
Welastevil2reinstall my os?08:45
Welastevil2no thanks....08:45
SebthreeBQM10HDyes08:45
knoti am getting error while sending git send-email command Unable to initialize SMTP properly. Check config and use --smtp-debug. VALUES: server=smtp.gmail.com encryption=tls hello=fedora.localdomain port=587 at /usr/libexec/git-core/git-send-email line 138308:45
Welastevil2too much working reinstalling everything again08:45
knotanybody knows here?08:45
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, have you stuck to only the standard repos08:45
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, the default repos08:45
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, if not that could be the problem08:45
Welastevil2mmm08:46
Welastevil2I think so!08:46
Welastevil2so...how to change the default?08:46
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, not added in software from random websites or ppas ?08:46
Welastevil2maybe...08:46
SebthreeBQM10HDyou have?08:46
Welastevil2sorry...I dont know...08:46
Welastevil2not random but some ppas08:46
SebthreeBQM10HD!repos08:46
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.08:46
Welastevil2how do I check it?08:46
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, ok ppas, which ppas ?08:47
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, when you have ppa's installed, and you update things,  espeically the whole system08:47
Welastevil2terminology08:47
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, things can break08:47
Welastevil2I think08:47
SebthreeBQM10HDresulting in  yes a error message box pssibly08:47
knotplease answer my question08:47
Welastevil2how do I fix it?08:47
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2,  you can't that easily  basically means the sytem is unclean08:48
SebthreeBQM10HDnot that stable etc08:48
SebthreeBQM10HDif you used bad ppas08:48
SebthreeBQM10HDor didn't install them quite right etc08:48
SebthreeBQM10HDknot, repate yoru question08:48
knoti am getting error while sending git send-email command Unable to initialize SMTP properly. Check config and use --smtp-debug. VALUES: server=smtp.gmail.com encryption=tls hello=fedora.localdomain port=587 at /usr/libexec/git-core/git-send-email line 13808:48
knots/sending/using08:49
SebthreeBQM10HDgetting  that error with what?08:49
knotyes08:49
knotoops.08:49
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, what's terminology08:49
theoceaniscoolWelastevil2, Stick this (http://pastebin.com/sPTEVa7D) into a script and execute it, then return with the output08:49
SebthreeBQM10HDtheoceaniscool,  see error message boxes dont' just happen, he's installed some ppas08:49
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, ppa's generally should be avoided, unless really needing to use them or enough08:50
knotSebthreeBQM10HD: i am sending patch via mail so gettign error08:50
SebthreeBQM10HDknot, no can't help maybe someone else can later08:50
knotdo you use git08:50
knot?08:50
SebthreeBQM10HDno08:50
knotok08:50
theoceaniscoolknot, You have the #git channel, maybe someone can help there08:51
rangemongerjust use timeshift and make a snapshot beforehand08:51
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, what's terminology got a link for the ppa's you installed?08:52
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, in fact ppa's when doing a standard ubuntu version upgrade,  I think just get disabled and not upgraded with it08:52
SebthreeBQM10HDbut if then your on a later ubuntu where that ppa doesn't quite work08:52
SebthreeBQM10HDthat can cause problems08:52
rangemongerbest not to just enable them after an upgrade but to make sure you enable them for the right version of ubuntu08:53
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SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger, Welastevil2  may have not upgraded, but yeah, for some reason, they are getting a error message box coming up08:54
SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger, seems it could be ppa related, but not really sure08:54
SebthreeBQM10HDsystem error box I mean08:54
rangemongerwhats the error?08:54
SebthreeBQM10HDsystem error message box08:54
theoceaniscoolrangemonger, We don't know, thats the main problem08:54
Welastevil2I see08:55
rangemongeroh that simple error box with 2 options and almost no explaination?08:55
Welastevil2so... from where do I starte?08:55
SebthreeBQM10HDthen he coudn't just load up a log file to since whatever08:55
rangemongerthat happens all the time on mine, even on clean installs08:55
rangemongeri just ignore it08:55
Welastevil2hahaha08:55
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, screen shot the error box08:55
SebthreeBQM10HDthen we know which one you got08:55
Welastevil2I think I'll do the same.08:55
SebthreeBQM10HDfor a start08:55
rangemongerill do it when it comes up08:55
Welastevil2ok08:55
Welastevil2I did it08:55
rangemongerit seems random08:55
rangemongeri have a vm with every official 'buntu and a host thats a tiny net install of ubuntu, they all do it from time to time08:56
rangemongerall the VMs are fresh installs, freshly snapshotted and reverted after each use08:57
SebthreeBQM10HDevery version of ubuntu, so 4.10 5.04 etc etc ? :d08:57
rangemongerevery current version08:57
SebthreeBQM10HDor do you ean like xubuntu lubuntu etc et08:57
SebthreeBQM10HDoh only teh supported versions08:57
rangemongerlike kubuntu, u gnome, lubuntu, etc, all 16.1008:57
theoceaniscoolrangemonger, That sounds a little wasteful08:57
Welastevil2Now, finishing my medical university, I'm satarting to think that the relation betwenn kernel/OS and hardware is very similar to the relation of our organisms and minds08:58
rangemongerehh, when hdd space becomes a problem, they can all go08:58
Welastevil2Depression and mania for example are "errors"08:58
rangemongerhave you ever seen a person bsod?08:59
SebthreeBQM10HDWelastevil2, random ppas are potential error and your own fault :D08:59
Welastevil2bsod?08:59
SebthreeBQM10HDblue screen of death08:59
rangemongerblue screen of death08:59
theoceaniscoolrangemonger, epilepsy?08:59
Ben64#ubuntu-offtopic guys08:59
Welastevil2epilepsy yeah08:59
Ben64leave this channel for support only08:59
Welastevil2ok. Sorry. Bye09:00
rangemongerits just a small one off tangent, nothing to worry about09:00
rangemongerwe are trying to solve a problem09:00
SebthreeBQM10HDnow he's gone09:00
rangemongeror atleast identify it09:00
SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger, I  guess he'll i take your advice, ignore the error message, and then well he'll continue  adding ppa's and such I guess to despite what I put about them09:00
SebthreeBQM10HDas fpr the medical thing uhmm  saw what he meant a bit, but nah computers are way diffenret09:01
rangemongerit happens even on my installs without added ppa09:01
SebthreeBQM10HDcomputers are also stupid untill they are told what to do by people09:01
theoceaniscoolSebthreeBQM10HD, People are also stupid09:01
SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger, that's true can sometiems get teh error box, when things seem genrealy ok enough otherwise09:02
rangemongerill screenshot it when it happens09:02
SebthreeBQM10HDtheoceaniscool, maybe so, and so we help destroy the ocean (reated to your nick),  and other things to09:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrelated above09:03
SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger, ok09:04
rangemongeroh yeah, i got xen fully working seb09:05
rangemongernow if only i could potentially break my system with a ppa for xen 4,8 :P09:06
rangemonger*4.809:06
SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger, to get some error boxes yeah :d or possiblhy09:06
rangemongerheh09:06
SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger, or even better terminal error messages :d09:06
rangemongeri remember when ubuntu once had an official update that broke x09:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger, I don't remember that09:07
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I remember killall pulseaudio :D09:07
rangemongerwas a long time ago09:07
Ben64come on, quit with the offtopic chatter here09:07
rangemongermaybe 10y09:07
rangemongerlol09:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrangemonger will you get lonely with hardly any suport issues, but ben64 here,  I am on the verge of leaving here to do  other things etc09:09
Ben64#ubuntu-offtopic is available09:09
SebthreeBQM10HDonly for those logged in though, which is stupid09:09
SebthreeBQM10HDt r  o  lls or not09:09
Ben64then make your own channel, just don't fill this channel with nonsense09:10
* SebthreeBQM10HD has had own irc channels, but they are dead now09:10
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nos09_hi09:31
rangemongerhi09:33
nos09_how do i get 10 lines after the word match and not the WORD itself ?09:34
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nos09how do i get 10 lines after the word match and not the WORD itself ?09:36
nos09how do i get 10 lines after the word match and not the WORD itself ?09:36
theoceaniscoolnos09,09:37
theoceaniscoolnos09, grep -A 1009:37
theoceaniscoolnos09, Next time `man grep`09:37
Bitnovahi can someone help please? why do i get this error email fstrim: /media/veracrypt: FITRIM ioctl failed: Input/output error09:37
Bitnovaits not a ssd drive so why is it using fstrim?09:38
Ben64you get the error by email?09:39
kroreriHas anyone seen my pants? They were last seen at JFK International Airport in New York last night and I miss them already. Please contact baggage claim if you've seen them and tell them to send the pants to Rochester International Airport where JetBlue is looking for them.09:40
Bitnovaby cronjob email Ben6409:40
Ben64then.... it's probably in a cronjob09:40
Bitnovayes but why is fstrim set to run on a drive that is NOT ssd ?09:40
Ben64because it's told to in cron09:40
Ben64maybe by you who knows09:41
Bitnovano i never set it. Ben64  but why is it reporting an error09:41
Ben64you already have all the answers. it's reporting an error because it isn't a ssd09:42
nos09how do i get 10 lines after the word match and not the WORD itself ?09:43
nos09with grep ?09:43
BitnovaBen64, so ubuntu is set to fstrim on ALL drives regardless if they are ssd's or not??09:43
elias_aBitnova: Could it be one of those disks that have both SSD and a spinning disk?09:43
Ben64nos09: grep -A10 blah file.txt | tail -n1009:43
Ben64Bitnova: nope09:44
Bitnovanope elias_a its a nas09:44
nos09Ben64: thanks ! that works perfectly09:45
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BitnovaBen64, if fstrim is not set to run on all disks, then why does it run on a normal HDD ?09:52
Ben64Bitnova: because it's set to in cron... we're going around in circles09:55
BitnovaBen64, and im confirming that its a fresh installation of Ubuntu 16.04. I did not set it in cron. are you able to explain that?09:56
Ben64yet it is set in cron09:56
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freddworacekbuy10:06
rangemongerlater skater10:07
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ppf_Bitnova: what filesystem?10:21
Bitnovappf_, it says unknown filesystem because it is a veracrypt filesystem10:25
ppf_can you paste your crypttab somewhere?10:25
Bitnovappf_, where do i find that10:26
ppf_/etc/crypttab10:26
SipriusPThello guys10:28
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SipriusPTi am unable to forward mail from local account to external account10:28
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SipriusPTResuming, with alias_maps, i have the right relay but the wrong sender domain (@remote.domainX.pt), with virtual_alias_maps, it uses a wrong relay (localhost) and the right sender (@domainX.pt), as you can see above.10:29
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SipriusPThttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/unable-to-forward-mail-from-external-account-to-external-account-4175595120/10:29
SipriusPTi have all my logs and configs in this tread10:29
SipriusPTanyone?10:29
Bitnovappf_, its empty right now. do you know why that is?10:30
ppf_no10:30
ppf_how do you mount your crypto device?10:31
ppf_also paste fstab and lvm.conf please10:31
Linuxero_80Hello everyone10:33
Bitnovappf_, with veracrypt10:35
rangemongerhey hey10:35
ppf_Bitnova: so, manually, i take it10:35
Bitnovayes ppf_10:35
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Bitnovabut this weekly anacron fstrim on this drive is annoying and i dont know why its been set to fstrim a hdd10:36
ppf_please run sudo hdparm -I /your/veracrypt/disk | grep -i TRIM10:38
Kingsysince upgrading from 16.04 -> 16.10 I am getting this error from vagrant / vbox --> http://hastebin.com/oyiyasuvob.vbs <-- has something not been updated during the upgrade?10:40
ikoniaKingsy: looks like the deifition has been updated and the file now contains refernce to one that no longer exists, so it tries the next best thing10:41
ikoniayou also have /mnt as a read only file system10:41
Bitnovappf_, when i run that, it says HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid argument10:42
Kingsyikonia: when you say the definition has been updated. Are you talking about the vbox binary>?10:44
ppf_Bitnova: /your/veracrypt/disk should refer to a physical drive, not a logical partition on it10:44
ppf_you can also try to use -i instead10:45
Bitnovappf_,  like sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i TRIM  ?10:47
treakiKingsy, hi here10:50
treakiKingsy, i think ikonia means with definition in that context some informations that linkes to that iso file but it is missing10:51
treakibut he or she has also sayed that there is a possiblility that your host file systems is mounted readonly10:52
treakii think you should first get sure that everything is running correctly (regarding hard disk failor)10:52
alexishello !10:55
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rangemongergreets and stuff10:56
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Bitnovappf_, the crontab.weekly fstrim says # trim all mounted file systems which support it /sbin/fstrim --all || true, how does this apply to normal hdd's?11:06
Ben64Bitnova: do you have a ssd11:06
Bitnovaonly one which is where the os sits. Ben6411:06
Ben64so change it to only run on that mountpoint11:07
BitnovaBen64, i thought of that. but do you think i should file as bug for the /sbin/fstrim --all || true problem?11:07
Bitnovaa*11:07
Ben64no11:07
zHaxhi11:10
zHaxhi11:11
srulii added a udev rule to disable touchpad when usb mouse is connected, i found this rule on the net, it works fine but only after user login, what do i need to change in it to make it work before login? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23618265/11:12
BitnovaBen64, seems like fstrim only detects veracrypt filesystems as ssd's for some odd reason.11:13
rangemongernice, kernel 4.9 just plain works11:20
lucianoHi11:24
ppf_Bitnova: it applies to all file systems11:41
ppf_it's their job to figure out if fitrim is applicable to the hardware or not11:41
ppf_it applies to your vera disk because you've actually mounted the 'unknown' FS11:42
ppf_do you actually have an ssd in your system11:43
Bitnovappf_, yes only one ssd where the OS sits. thats it. the other is a hdd.11:43
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Bitnovaso ppf_ then i have to change the command in the fstrim cron.weekly to what exactly? like what mount point? root mount point like this: fstrim / ?  since thats where the ssd sits.11:45
ppf_so, i see three options: a) live with the recurring error message, b) sort out the mountage of the crypto disk, c) modify the fstrim launch11:46
darkblue.11:47
AristideHello here :)11:54
AristideI have a problem with Steam on ubuntu Xenial - I get this error at launch :11:55
AristideInstalling breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0)11:55
AristidelibGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so | libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast11:55
AristidePackage: steam:i386 Version: 1:1.0.0.48-1ubuntu311:56
AristideI use 64 bits system, with Plasma5, and with a Nvidia Graphic card11:56
ppf_set LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose to improve error output11:56
AristideI try with « env LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose steam »11:56
AristideHello ppf_ :)11:56
ppf_hi Aristide11:57
ppf_then paste the full error output, please11:57
AristideYes my connection is not very well here, I try to pastebin11:57
Aristidehttp://pastebin.com/sjSKE7mw ppf_11:58
Aristide_ZNKSt3_V214error_category10_M_messageB5cxx11Ei, version GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference)11:58
AristideI have try both steam from Ubuntu repo, and steam repo11:59
ppf_steam comes bundled with a couple of standard library dependencies11:59
ppf_try and see whether ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 exists11:59
ppf_(sanitycheck the folders in between please, and see if they match your version)12:00
Aristideyes12:00
ppf_okay12:00
Aristidelibstdc++.so.6 and libstdc++.so.6.0.2112:00
ppf_delete it12:00
AristideDone12:00
ppf_try again?12:01
OerHeksin 16.10 this bug is fixed, for xenial try to run this from terminal, if this works, adjust the launcher >>  env LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' /usr/bin/steam %U12:01
AristideNo same problem, but with less lines12:01
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/a/81806512:01
AristideNow I get this http://pastebin.com/6JVL67vP12:01
AristideOerHeks: Already tested12:02
hateballAristide: are you using nouveau or nvidia driver?12:02
Aristidehateball: nvidia driver12:02
AristideI think12:02
hateballAristide: "lspci -k" look for the VGA section12:02
Aristide01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218M [GeForce 315M] (rev a2)12:02
hateballAristide: what kernel module ?12:03
Aristidehateball: How check ? Maybe 340 but i'm not sure12:03
hateballAristide: with the command I gave you12:03
Aristideah yes :')12:03
Aristide        Kernel driver in use: nvidia12:04
Aristide        Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau, nvidia_34012:04
knittelgood afternoon12:04
AristideHell knittel :)12:04
AristideHelloù12:05
AristideHello*12:05
knittelHello Aristide12:05
knittelunderstand np :)12:05
Aristide:)12:05
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hateballAristide: if you try launching with "STEAM_RUNTIME=0 steam" what do you get then?12:08
ppf_Aristide: that's a different error fro mbefore12:08
AristidelibGL error: failed to load driver: swrast12:08
Aristidehttp://pastebin.com/GfBhuKig I get that12:09
TheLawyerusnig apt, how to list the availble versions of specific package and choose to install specific version?12:10
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ppf_Aristide: what other things did you already try to solve the original issue?12:10
Aristideppf_: Try both versions of steam12:10
AristideBut I don't have tester other with STEAM_RUNTIME=012:10
Aristidetest*12:11
OerHeksapt-cache policy <package>12:11
OerHeksTheLawyer, ^^12:11
knittelgoedemiddag oerheks :)12:11
hateballAristide: what does "glxinfo |grep render" show?12:11
OerHekshoi knittel12:12
AristideLot of thing hateball http://pastebin.com/zAcEXDht :)12:12
hateballAristide: alright, so that means the driver should work properly at least12:13
Aristidehateball: Yes, I can play with Minecraft without problems12:13
ppf_Aristide: which version is this now?12:14
AristideVersion: 1:1.0.0.48-1ubuntu312:15
AristideActually12:15
AristideSection: multiverse/games12:15
TheLawyerthanks OerHeks ^_^12:16
ppf_so from the ubuntu repos12:16
AristideYep12:16
AristideWait I try from steam repo12:16
ppf_no need12:17
AristideAh12:17
ppf_could be a 32bit issue. try this: sudo apt install libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri:i38612:21
AristideAlready try ppf_12:22
Aristidelibgl1-mesa-dri is already the newest version (11.2.0-1ubuntu2.2).12:22
Aristidelibgl1-mesa-dri:i386 is already the newest version (11.2.0-1ubuntu2.2).12:22
mdmck10hi12:25
mdmck10hi12:26
mdmck10hi12:26
mdmck10hi12:26
mdmck10hi12:26
mdmck10hi12:26
rangemongerno need to keep saying it12:28
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Bitnovappf_, just a question - is there any risk of fstrim deleting or wiping any data on veracrypt volume when it does the weekly cron?12:41
Ben64Bitnova: change it to only run on the mount point(s) that are ssd12:42
Hanumaanwhat am I doing wrong here: https://dpaste.de/EySO#L1,19,41 javascript file does not load .. when I see it from chrome developer tools12:42
Hanumaansorry wrong ..12:43
ppf_Bitnova: i still think your setup is weird, having mounted the unknown filesystem. so i'm going to answer with a confident "probably not"12:43
ahrixhello12:43
ahrixhello everyone12:44
BluesKajHiyas all12:44
rangemongeryo12:44
ahrix:V12:44
ahrix- yo12:44
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Bitnovappf_, ive tried this with different veracrypt drives on 3 different ubuntu 16.04 systems, they all reported the weekly cron fstrim error12:49
bhikkhusubhutihello12:50
Ben64Bitnova: change it to only run on the mount point(s) that are ssd12:50
bhikkhusubhutiI have problems with my gnome being able to use a headset (mic and headphones are in one plug).  In windows it works (sorry).12:52
bhikkhusubhutiI have gnome 16.1012:52
bhikkhusubhutiI tried hdajackretask and did not have luck.12:52
Sir_AndreiHi12:57
Sir_AndreiPpl12:57
Sir_AndreiI need somebody to see content of packages incoming to my network, in real time.12:57
Sir_AndreiIn localhost12:57
bhikkhusubhutianyone want to help me.  I want to replace my internal mic with external mic12:57
Sir_AndreiWhat's a nice tool for this?12:58
rangemongerbhikkhusubhuti: what sound card(s) in your machine?12:58
rangemongeryou might need pavucontrol12:59
gamesterI moved my hdd into a new, secureboot enabled computer. Now it refuses to boot, just loads up the bios. Im on Ubuntu 16.10. Could this be secureboot related? (Windows works)12:59
rangemongerthe gnome ones missing the ability to change to some cards12:59
bhikkhusubhutiwhen I plug in a headset it is supposed to mute the internal mic and have external work.  I watched a video on this which says how to use hdajackretask, but it did not work.  I could update the bios but I doubt that will work.12:59
bhikkhusubhuticool13:00
rangemongerbhikkhusubhuti: linux doesnt do that automatically, afaik13:00
rangemongeryou need to set it manually13:00
bhikkhusubhutirangemonger:   I was talking to you last night under vivekananda (his computer)  Never got the final product to work.. now I am on my computer..13:00
rangemongerand the gnome sound control panel is... lacking13:00
bhikkhusubhutiI think it is realtek  how to know in term13:01
rangemongerooh hey13:01
bhikkhusubhutilspci or something13:01
rangemongeryeah13:01
rangemongerthat will show you all pci devices13:01
bhikkhusubhutirangemonger: I finally figured out how to reg to get into this group on my computer13:01
rangemongerill see what my rt audio is called13:01
bhikkhusubhutiok trying now13:01
bhikkhusubhutiis this it?   Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 21)13:02
bhikkhusubhutiit is realtek though13:02
rangemongeryep13:03
rangemongermine similar13:03
rangemonger*mines13:03
bhikkhusubhutiit is intel13:03
rangemongeryeah, its like that on mine too13:03
rangemongerits rt but it shows as intel13:03
rangemongeri had the same prob actually13:03
bhikkhusubhutiI have walmart special.. $250 32gb ssd and 8gb ram13:03
bhikkhusubhutidual boot used for balabolka and some other things13:03
rangemongeri needed pavu control to get it to output to the right jack13:04
bhikkhusubhutipavu?13:04
rangemongersudo apt install pavucontrol13:04
bhikkhusubhutishall I install13:04
rangemongerits another audio control panel, has more settings than the gnome one13:04
rangemongerbasically ubuntu might be defaulting to the wrong slot13:05
rangemongerlike the optical one or spdif or hdmi13:05
bhikkhusubhutiok.  I have pulse installed I know how to stop it.. it is stopped now and I can start it .. if I do not start it, sound does not work13:05
bhikkhusubhutiyes.. I remember that one from before13:05
rangemongergood old pulse, always causing problems13:05
bhikkhusubhutiwhat did not work.. I thin k it was kazam.. I needed it ..13:06
bhikkhusubhutiI start manually and killed the autorestart13:06
bhikkhusubhutiit is started but I think it still will not make my mic work13:06
rangemongerdamn, got disconnected13:07
rangemongeri probably missed some of your last messages13:07
quupHi, any stable chromium channel that is more up to date than default repos?13:08
rangemongeri dont see any past 2014 or so13:09
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gamesterAfter moving ny HDD (which contains my Ubuntu 16.10) to a new computer, it wont boot up and gives me no errors to go on. It simply displays a black screen and then the bios menu. Anyone know what is wrong?13:17
bhikkhusubhutiThat did not work (pavucontrol13:18
bhikkhusubhutirangemonger left.. does anyone else have any other Ideas?13:18
bhikkhusubhutiI think it is a hardware problem13:18
bhikkhusubhutikernal problem13:18
bhikkhusubhutiPerhaps it is pulse audio.  How do I make alsa work without pulseaudio13:19
bhikkhusubhutiif I do not have pulse running then I get no sound at all.. this is different from other versions  (what I remember .. maybe it was mate)  I am on gnome 16.1013:19
hateballgamester: was that the only HDD in the machine? and does the new machine only have 1 ?13:21
hateballgamester: if you hold left shift, can you get to grub menu?13:21
Southern_Gentlembhikkhusubhuti,  what was the issue13:22
gamesterhateball: if i have my windows ssd connected as well, it always boots into it no matter what13:22
greglgamester: Perhaps old computer used a different bootup procudure.. UFI versus GTP.. Just a guess...13:22
bhikkhusubhutiI cannot get a headset to work with my computer.  I want to eventually use a headphone / mic splitter and use an external mic13:24
bhikkhusubhutimy internal mic has static13:24
gamesterThe older machine had an ssd and the hdd, i moved both over13:24
bhikkhusubhutiSouthern_Gentlem, sorry forgot to prefix your name13:25
gamesterhateball: I can not get into grub menu13:25
gamestergregl: ill research this, thanks13:25
hateballgamester: what gregl says seems likely. should be able to liveboot and reinstall the bootloader in EFI mode tho13:26
bhikkhusubhutigamester, I had a windows booting problem.. I cannot remember what I did..13:26
bhikkhusubhutigamester, I remember.. you need to add the uefi file in the secure boot.  You must be in uefi.  Legacy boot will solve your problems .. but you will need to reinstall both windows and linux13:27
greglgamester, I find it odd that windows will boot on new hardware,without reinstalling...13:28
bhikkhusubhutigamester, try adding secure boot.  to do this add a pwd to your bios (TYPE VERY SLOWLY).. then see if you can add the uefi13:28
gamestergregl: it auto detected the new hardware and ran some setup procedure13:28
gamesterOn first boot13:28
bhikkhusubhutigamester, after you add.. then you must turn off secure boot by clearing the password. Type your old pwd and then set the new pwd as <NOTHING>  that means type nothing and hit enter twice13:29
greglgamester, strange13:29
bhikkhusubhutigamester, then you will see something like 1 yes or 0 yes as a boot order13:29
bhikkhusubhutigamester, put that in .. and you will be set to go13:30
bhikkhusubhutiok.. I built some karma.. who going to help me13:30
bhikkhusubhutiSouthern_Gentlem, are you game to help13:30
bhikkhusubhutihow do I get rid of this white backgound screen in hex chat.. so much hurts my eye13:33
gamesterFrom one problem to the next, the mouse pointer is frozen in the corner on my liveusb despite being able to move the mouse around -_-13:33
gamesterthe graphic for it13:33
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bhikkhusubhutiok.. looks like the ok cancel button are hidden .. got it13:36
bhikkhusubhutiok.. no help on my headphone problem?13:36
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Guest19966rehal13:39
GrandPa-GI have a system cron job that runs a simple script to do a logrotate. It fails with a message "/home/caplink/backup.sh: 6: /home/caplink/backup.sh: logrotate: not found13:39
GrandPa-G"13:39
GrandPa-GIf I run the script from the user without sudo, it runs fine. Any ideas why the cron fails?13:40
Guest19966no13:40
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theoceaniscoolGrandPa-G, instead of logrotate, put /usr/sbin/logrotate13:41
theoceaniscoolGrandPa-G, If you are interested, the problem is that cron does not create the environment, so the variable PATH is not defined (or does not hae the correct value)13:42
GrandPa-GI am trying it now. I seem to remember this issue in the far past.13:43
gamesterIs Boot-Repair still a thing?13:45
GrandPa-Gtheoceaniscool: worked, thanks, now I have to fix file permissions with root vs user13:47
FManTXhi13:52
GrandPa-Gtheoceaniscool: I am getting error Ignoring backup.conf because the file owner is wrong (should be root).13:53
GrandPa-G Do I need the conf file to be owned by root?13:53
theoceaniscoolGrandPa-G, Looks like it13:54
theoceaniscoolGrandPa-G, Try chown root:root <file>13:54
GrandPa-Gtheoceaniscool: trying it now. Seems strange to do this.13:55
theoceaniscoolGrandPa-G, It is13:55
theoceaniscoolGrandPa-G, Maybe the file was created the first time with wrong permissions13:55
davesidiousHey folks!  My Ubuntu PC receives its IP information via DHCP.  How can I get it to configure the local dnsmasq to use the DNS server contained within the DHCP information?13:57
GrandPa-Gtheoceaniscool: that worked.13:59
srulii added a udev rule to disable touchpad when usb mouse is connected, i found this rule on the net, it works fine but only after user login, what do i need to change in it to make it work before login(run at boot)? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23618265/14:00
BeachBallwhat is currently the best way to manage a ubuntu server from the web?  similar to cpanel but open source?14:00
BeachBalli used zpanel, but broke it real good when i upgraded to 16.0414:01
Aprathi14:04
Aprati have problem running Ubuntu in virtual box14:04
jpdAprat: can you be more specific ? I run it all the time in VB14:06
bittenagn - usb mouse dead14:11
Southern_Gentlemstop feeding it dcon14:11
subho99Guys this is not exactly ubuntu related but do you know how to direct more bandwidth to the wifi hotspot that I have created.14:13
Picisubho99: try ##hardware or ##networking14:13
vfwsubho99: We would need to know how you created the hotspot.14:14
gamestergregl, hateball: the disk uses GPT.14:14
vfwsubho99: If you followed online instructions, show us.14:15
subho99vfw: Using a wifi adapter14:15
subho99The speed is about 800 KBps in my PC14:15
vfwsubho99: And what does one of the hotspot clients get?14:16
subho99But while connected to the network on my Android, the speed hardly reaches 100 KBps.14:16
vfwsubho99: Not sure there's much we can do about that.14:16
subho99vfw: But in Windows, I get at least 600 KBps14:17
vfwsubho99: For one thing, we do not know why it only gets 100 KBps14:17
vfwsubho99: As is with most any ISP, speeds fluctuate.14:18
vfwsubho99: As with any WiFi connection, speeds fluctuate.14:18
subho99vfw: Maybe...but still such difference shouldn't be there.14:19
subho99I guess I have to do the heavy downloading in my PC14:19
vfwsubho99: You dont have a wireless router? (Would be better/easier.)14:21
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vfwhttps://www.google.com/search?q=buffalo+wireless+router&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-814:22
yocs0000how do i install adobe acrobat on 16.10 64 bit?14:22
arunsI a setting SSL enabled website hosted on AWS, using nginx, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and certbot ; I am getting ssl handshake error, ssl test states testing TLS1.0"Assessment failed: No secure protocols supported" my /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default file --> https://p.ngx.cc/ce448901f382b60f  and nginx.conf file --> https://p.ngx.cc/b564eb7500d3cee1 ; Kindly suggest solution to fix this error, its a nginx config related problem i guess, openssl -state -debug flag14:23
aruns, see this output >> http://dpaste.com/1MVZN2A14:23
subho99vfw: Nah, my withering PC doesn't have a internal Wireless Card.14:23
subho99I'll buy a new PC rather.14:23
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vfwsubho99: Don't need one.14:26
vfwsubho99: Most wireless routers have ethernet connections as well.14:27
vfwyocs0000: Any chance you'd be interested in another document reader?14:27
vfw!info evince | yocs000014:27
ubottuyocs0000: evince (source: evince): Document (PostScript, PDF) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.22.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 255 kB, installed size 810 kB14:27
subho99vfw: Yeah, but when I plug in my Ethernet cable into the router, my PC can't connect to the internet14:28
rangemongeracrobat is an insecure bloatfest14:28
vfwyocs0000: http://tutorialforlinux.com/2016/10/04/how-to-install-adobe-reader-on-ubuntu-16-10-yakkety-linux/14:31
subho99vfw: You might remember me as I had the problem of installing the USB Wifi Adapter driver on Ubuntu14:31
subho99It was a Railink chipset14:31
yocs0000vfw: there is a form I do not seem to be able to fill with any other reader ....14:32
vfwyocs0000: Ok.14:32
yocs0000vfw: thank you!14:33
vfwNP14:33
losaciihello14:39
losaciiDonno how to use Xchat, Who can help me?>14:39
tim-jones-001On ubuntu server 16.04 and want to enlarge LVM group holding root filesystm ewhen underlying disk /dev/sda has been enlarged on VM to 20gb and have 8gb sda2 extended and 8gb sda5 linux LVM partition 'within' then sda2 partition (sda2 starts at 1001470 and finishes at 16775167 and sda5 starts at 1001472 and also ends at 16775167). If I delete sda2 partition to recreate to expand to accommodate all extra diskspace on /dev/sda disk, what14:43
tim-jones-001should I then do about the sda5 Linux LVM partition, which is sitting on top of the sda2 partition?  Will fdisk allow me to create a LVM starting at the same point within the extended sda2 partition? or would I have to use another tool to recreate the sda5 LVM partition?14:43
vfwlosacii: http://xchat.org/docs/start/14:44
unGuru_Helo14:44
losaciiHI! :)14:44
losaciiunGuru, hi.14:44
unGuru_Does anyone know how to generate free ssl certificate?14:45
sruliunGuru_ have a look at letsencrypt.org14:45
vfwtim-jones-001:  sda2 is the extended partition which contains sda514:46
vfwtim-jones-001: You should consider gparted14:46
tim-jones-001vfw - yes sda2 is the extended partition containing sda5 the LVM partition14:46
tim-jones-001I am on server so no GUI14:46
tim-jones-001(gparted would seem to be much easier, but not an option on server)14:47
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unGuru_sruli: I will14:47
vfwtim-jones-001: If you delete sda2, you will also delete sda514:48
vfwtim-jones-001: Not totally sure exactly what your end goal is.14:48
vfwtim-jones-001: Also not sure you can do what you need to do on-the-fly.14:49
tim-jones-001Yes - have done that already and seen that that would happen (but did not write to disk) - hence my question.  Assume that you would have to delete the extended partition in order to expand the partition14:49
JohnDoe2Hi, silly question: does anyone know if http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/ is the package that provides afpfsd ? I have a serious memory leak issue I'd like to report. https://s30.postimg.org/8kybpaiu9/memleak.png14:49
darkbluei found my browser in ubuntu have bugs14:49
darkblueboth firefox and chromium14:50
vfwtim-jones-001: Please re-state your question.14:50
unGuru_darkblue: which browser? :)14:50
darkbluefirefox14:51
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tim-jones-001vfw - someone created a vm with a too small root filesystem.  The person who administers the VMWare ESX server then resized the (virtual) disk on which the root filesystem partitions exist.  I wish to bring the extra disk space on the disk into the partition hosting the root filesystem LVM group, so that the server can have enough diskspace on its root partition14:52
darkbluewhen i try to visit some a website,it redirect to another14:52
PiciJohnDoe2: From what I can see here, it looks like its aprt of the afpfs-ng source package, which lives here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/afpfs-ng/ also consider filing a bug on launchpad, considering that the last update that afpfs-ng has is in 201314:53
darkblueso embarrassed...14:53
tim-jones-001Googled all over, but no examples extending LVM partition on extended partition14:53
JohnDoe2Pici oh I see, ok. Thank you so much!14:53
vfwtim-jones-001: I'd need to see what you have now.14:54
vfwtim-jones-001: sudo fdisk -l | & nc termbin.com 999914:54
tim-jones-001vfw: Disk /dev/sda: 20 GiB, 21474836480 bytes, 41943040 sectors14:54
tim-jones-001Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes14:54
tim-jones-001Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes14:54
tim-jones-001I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes14:54
tim-jones-001Disklabel type: dos14:54
tim-jones-001Disk identifier: 0xca2727b614:54
vfwtim-jones-001: I had a similar problem once, and here is what I did. *BUT* I was not using LVM and was not using VM. But may still work for you.  It's totally different.14:55
vfwI had 50G / partition, so I resized the largest partition, (which was at the end of the drive), and created an 80G partition for /var/ and moved /old-var/ to it.14:57
mitchelhello14:59
vfwI know that LVM is for changing partitions on-the-fly, but I just never used it.  Maybe someone else will give you advise.  But if you have enough disk space, making another partition for /var/ is a viable work-around option.15:00
tim-jones-001vfw - thanks for suggestion. LVM is supposed to make this sort of thing much easier, but actually it seems to make it much more complicated :-(15:01
vfwtim-jones-001: Yea, I konw.  I think that's pretty much why I've never really wanted to use it. I use gpartedLive15:02
vfwhttp://gparted.org/livecd.php  #Because LVM is too hard for me ;)15:02
tim-jones-001vfw: Would have been better if the ESX administrator could have created me another logical disk drive and I could have then just added that to the LV group - job done! Just trying to see if there is anything that can be done to get where I need to get from where I am now15:03
vfwtim-jones-001: I'm not saying what you are trying to do can't be done, just sharing my experience, (and keeping the conversation alive in hopes that someone will offer advice for you as well).15:03
humpingi hump things!15:05
Headle55hi15:05
humpinghi15:05
tim-jones-001vfw: really appreciate your trying to help.  Been googling and messing around for hours to no avail.  Perhaps it is time just to give up and build the server again from scratch ;-(15:05
humpingi <3 humping vaginas15:05
vfwtim-jones-001: One thing I'm sure of, if you delete sda2, you'll loose sda5 (and all data on it).  So if you have a backup, maybe you can do it, but I dono.... would not advise it.15:05
Headle55Hello, I am having some trouble on Ubuntu. Can anyone help me out please?15:06
vfwtim-jones-001: I don't know for sure.  I have little experience with VM and less with LVM15:06
vfwHeadle55: Yes15:06
sruliHeadle55: please explain your issue as specifically as possible, if someone can they will try to help15:06
* humping humps someone15:07
tim-jones-001vfw - thanks for your help - I have a backup, so I try deleting and recreating sda5 LVM partition and see if I can extend that without first doing the same to the extended partition which hosts it, but that seem illogical and therefore don't expect it to work15:07
* humping humps denaras 15:08
* humping humps fenre 15:08
* humping humps Lildirt and max12345 15:08
max12345hey what is "/usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate" and how do I stop it from eating my computing resources whole?15:08
Picihumping: stop15:09
humpingPici: stop15:09
tewardmax12345: updatedb.mlocate is a process that refreshes the `mlocate` command's locations cache, so `locate SOMETHING` will return something.15:09
* humping humps teward 15:09
tewardmax12345: if it's eating your resources, you can uninstall the `mlocate` command.15:09
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tewardPici: can I borrow the ban hammer?15:09
teward;P15:09
vfwtim-jones-001: If you are interested, here is what I ended up with after creating new /var/ partition. http://termbin.com/of3e  and http://termbin.com/eh2d15:09
tewardthanks Pici15:10
Picinp15:10
tim-jones-001vfw: thanks will look :-)15:10
max12345teward: thank you :)15:10
tewardmax12345: mlocate *does* index your system, that's probably where the resource usage is coming into play if you have a lot of stuff15:11
Headle55Thank you. I am new to this whole Linux OS so expect noob questions from me. I am using Codelite IDE on my Ubuntu 16.10 machine for running c++ applications. One of my recent applications opens a file and reads the data from it. But when I try to run the program through Codelite it won't open the file. When I use the terminal g++ command the progra15:11
Headle55m runs fine.15:11
tewardmax12345: *normally* it doesn't take a ton of resources from what I've observed, but I've just started using `find` and such to search my system for files :P15:11
tim-jones-001vfw: I have no free space on the disk, as the ESX admin allocated it all to the sda disk on which the root filesystem is sitting on the LV, so what you did is not an option unfortunately15:11
Headle55Most of this problems on Windows happens when the application doesn't have administrative permissions. Is there anything like that on Linux too??15:11
vfwtim-jones-001: ok15:12
vfwHeadle55: Yes15:13
vfwHeadle55: But I've not used Codelite, so don't know about your particular situation.15:13
Headle55Okay. But can you please tell me how one gives me administrative rights to a program on Linux?15:14
moneryHeadle55: linux file permissions are grouped into the owner of the file, the group that has access to the file, and finally everyone15:14
vfwHeadle55: sudo15:14
max12345teward: it doesn't freeze or anything but it slows down and makes noise, so I was wondering what was going on. The man page says it's done daily as a cron job, which makes some kind of sense I suppose..15:15
moneryHeadle55: u can do sudo /path/to/file for CLI15:15
vfwHeadle55: but be careful with it.  Not at all sure it's what you need.15:15
moneryHeadle55: or gksu /path/to/file if its gui15:15
moneryjust throwing sudo/gksu at a program to make it run is not the same as fixing it15:15
vfwHeadle55: monery has boiled it down for you.15:16
monerydo you know file permissions in unix/linux?15:16
Headle55Not at all @monery15:16
monerysudo /home/awesomeop/./troubleprogram idea should be used to see if its a permission issue15:16
BeautifulBashhow do I make chromium launch with a paremeter from its launch command by default?15:17
moneryHeadle55: file permissions are as follow, read/write/execucute15:17
BeautifulBashI want it in my favourites (gnome) but need a parameter for it to work properly15:17
vfwHeadle55: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0070.php15:17
Headle55@vfw thank you!15:18
monerythere are many ways to set it, but I like to use numbers..... so I can do if I own the file "chown 777 file" add the values togethe to get the proper file permission.... 4=read 2=write 1=exec...15:18
vfwHeadle55: And "chmod +x" will add the executible bit.  "chmod -x" removes it.15:18
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moneryvfw: I like the octlet way myself... instead of subtracting or adding, your just setting the value15:19
vfwHeadle55: chmod +x /path/to/file15:19
vfwmonery: ..just a simple way...15:19
mikeymopi find octets easier as well15:21
baldpopehas anyone used apt-cacher-ng with acngfs?15:33
baldpopewas looking for an example specific with the acngfs - but so far havne't found one15:33
brian_hi15:36
CapprenticeHi! Im trying to run Squid with Tproxy support. All works except clients when sees "my ip" wrong Public IP is shown to them? What could be the cause? The Ubuntu 16.10 kernel by default Supports TPROXY.15:38
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CapprenticeAnyone?15:40
ikoniaCapprentice: the IP will always be the public IP of the proxy15:42
Mibixcan ubuntu do raid 1 ntfs arrays?15:43
Mibixlike software raid15:43
nicomachushow do I start lightdm after systemd?15:44
ikoniaMibix: it will do meta device software raid15:44
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ikoniaMibix: you can put whatever file system you want on it - however ntfs would be a poor choice as only ubuntu would be able to use the meta devices, so there would be no benifit to use ntfs15:44
ikoniaMibix: it will support some fakeraid devices, but I'd personally advise against it15:44
ikonianicomachus: lightdm will always start after systemd15:45
Guest6645dan +R15:45
ikonianicomachus: as systemd is what starts lightdm15:45
nicomachusI used to use "sudo start lightdm", but that's the upstart way isn't it?15:45
ikonianicomachus: what exactly are you trying to do ?15:45
Mibixwell i guess i could format one of the drives to ext4, copy all 6tb over from ntfs and then switch the ntfs to ext4 and mirror them?15:45
Mibixwould that be the best way15:45
nicomachusikonia: I installed mate one day last week and now it starts up with whatever DM Mate uses15:45
ikoniaMibix: what are you trying to do15:46
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ikoniaMibix: a bit of context would be helpful15:46
nicomachuseven though I removed (I think) all the mate packages, I just want to make sure I reset lightDM as the default15:46
Mibixmigrate to ubuntu15:46
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Mibixbut i want this drive in raid 1 for redundancy15:46
ikonianicomachus: ubuntu mate uses lightdm as a greeter too15:46
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ikoniaMibix: ok - so why would you not make the raid array a linux native file system (apologies if I'm missing the context)15:47
Mibixwell i already have it on ntfs15:47
Mibixso i could i suppose just would take a bit onger15:47
ikoniaMibix: ok - how/what is the raid controller on that15:47
whiteCan Ubuntu automatically respond to startup settings automatically? !!!15:47
ikoniawhite: what do you mean, respond ?15:47
Mibixthere isnt a raid controller, i wanted to do software raid15:47
ikoniaMibix: wanted ? you just said it's already on it15:48
ikoniaor again am I missing something15:48
Mibixno there is no raid 1 right now15:48
ikoniaahhh it's on an ntfs disk, not an ntfs raid disk15:48
ikoniaok15:48
ikoniaMibix: I assume you have a spare disk ?15:48
Mibixya15:48
Mibixi have two 6tb disk one is full15:49
Capprenticeikonia: TPROXY, fully transparent. It should spoof the IP.15:49
ikoniaCapprentice: no, it should not spoof15:49
whiteDoes anyone know how?15:49
ikoniaCapprentice: it should act as a transparant proxy, that is different than masquarade15:49
geniinicomachus: apt-get install --reinstall unity-greeter15:49
ikoniawhite: how what15:49
ikoniaMibix: perfect, ok my suggestion is.....15:49
Capprenticeikonia: Well Im not masquerading.15:49
ikoniaCapprentice: because thats not what a transparant proxy does15:50
ikoniaMibix: build a raid1 array, but mark one disk as "failed" when you build it, so it will build a mirror with 1 disk (and a missing/failed disk)15:50
Mibixdo i do this in gparted?15:50
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ikoniaMibix: put a linux file system on it and copy the data across to it, when you are happy it's done and working, hot add the old disk (ntfs) to the array and it will automatically sync the disk data to the second disk as it will be the "mirror"15:51
CapprenticeIm trying to run a fully transparent proxy.15:51
whiteikonia:Can you help me with ubuntu?15:51
ikoniawhite: yes, if you ask a quetion, I can try15:51
ikoniaCapprentice: what is the IP range of the client ?15:51
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ikoniaMibix: I'm not sure in gparted, you may need to use mdam to create the iniital array with the failed disk15:52
ikoniamdadm sorry15:52
Mibixhmm15:52
whiteikonia:Can any program downloaded from the internet for ubuntu adapt?15:52
Capprenticeikonia: Client(s), xx.xx.xx.0/22215:52
ikoniaMibix: if you need help, just ask but it's not that hard15:52
Capprenticeikonia: Client(s), xx.xx.xx.0/2215:52
ikoniaCapprentice: what's the ip range a public or private15:52
OerHekswhite, 'any'??15:53
ikoniaMibix: back in a few minutes if you need help15:53
Capprenticeikonia: Public. xx.xx.xx.xx/3015:53
ducassewhite: adapt?15:53
OerHekswhite, use software center please, don't download programs blindly from the internet without research15:53
ikoniaCapprentice: how are you setting the proxy parameter, I assume you're using it as a http proxy ?15:53
whiteikonia:For example I downloaded notepad ++ and I could not do the installation anyhow15:54
iMasturbatewhite: White power!15:54
Mibixikonia im not doing it till i get my other drives back up15:54
ikoniaMibix: every wise15:54
OerHekswhite,you notice that ikonia is helping others ..15:54
ikoniaMibix: get your backup completed, come back ant help15:54
iMasturbatesorry15:54
ikoniawhite: note++ is not a linux program15:54
ikoniaiMasturbate: please change your nickname15:54
iMasturbatesorry15:54
iMasturbateBRB when I think of new nick15:54
Capprenticeikonia: http_port 3129 tproxy15:55
Mibixlmao15:55
ikoniaCapprentice: not going to work like that15:55
Mibixthat identd too15:55
ikoniaCapprentice: you need to stop the x-forward parameter15:55
ikonia(if you want to do it like that)15:55
OerHekswhite,  check out https://itsfoss.com/notepad-alternatives-for-linux/15:55
whiteikonia:Well thanks for your help I understand now15:55
Capprenticeikonia: HTTP traffic is routed through a Router to the Squid Box15:55
ikoniaCapprentice: that doesn't matter,15:55
baldpopenot sure I've every seen anyone ask someone else to change their nick, and I'm certain, I've never seen anyone comply with such a request...15:56
Capprenticeikonia: How to block x-cache: hit/miss msgs shown in the Header?15:56
ikoniahit/miss ? that's squid logs15:56
ikoniathat has nothing to do with what's being sent out15:56
Capprenticeikonia: Hmm... nope.15:56
white0erHeks: thaknk you15:56
ikoniahit and miss are squid log events15:57
Capprenticeikonia: Try capturing the headers with something like "Live Headers addon in Firefox". You will see whether squid is caching something or missed.15:58
ikoniacaching ???15:58
ikoniayou didn't say you where caching15:58
Capprenticeikonia: To make things untracable to the end user, these msgs should be hidden.15:58
ikoniayou said transparant proxy15:58
Capprenticeikonia: yes, Im.15:58
ikoniayou need x-forward disabled15:58
ikoniait's that simple15:58
rizonzis apache2 on 15.10 a biatch ?16:01
ikoniarizonz: could you try to phrase a clear question without abuse16:01
ikoniarizonz: do you mean is apache 2 hard to configure ?16:01
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OerHeksrizonz, 15.10 is EOL, so there could be trouble16:01
vfwrizonz: First, install 16.0416:02
rizonzikonia: nah it just doesn accept a thing16:03
rizonzit runs but no telnet on port 80 possible16:03
rizonzvfw: yeah upgrading now16:03
ikoniarizonz: probably a firewall16:03
rizonzOerHeks: yeah it was an install because owncloud hand an issue with fpm back the day16:03
CrackedCrackerHello guys. Could you please help me?16:03
CrackedCrackerI messed up some gtk configs (i think) and now I can't find how to revert these changes.16:03
CrackedCrackerRight now some of my windows have tabs (menus?) like this http://imgur.com/a/4RJLs16:03
rizonzikonia: no no firewall16:03
ikoniarizonz: something is blocking it from getting there, or it's not listening on port 8016:04
vfwrizonz: /var/log/apache/16:04
rizonzikonia: netstat says it is16:04
rizonzvfw: nothing there16:04
ikoniarizonz: then it's being clocked/nat incorrectly16:05
ikoniaas it's not hitting the box16:05
ikonianothing in the log = not hitting the box16:05
rizonzand it started after an upgrade months ago, was not busy with this for a while and it was not needed, so first 16.04 now16:05
vfwrizonz: /var/log/httpd/error_log16:05
rizonzikonia: it is, I run 300 14.04 servers without any issue int he same network16:05
rizonzvfw: nothing, really nowhere something usefull16:06
lilvimHi Ondrej, by any chance did you stop maintaining your php5.5 packages?16:06
CrackedCrackerOr could you please tell me, where default .gconf lives?16:07
CrackedCrackerWhen I remove .gconf and other from my home folder some problems resolve by changing appearance overall16:07
vfwrizonz: So that should tell you that it is not apache that is failing.16:07
rizonzvfw: apache starts, netstat says ok port 80 (or 443) and nothing possible16:07
rizonzfurther nmo logs16:08
rizonzI think this box is just not OK anymore16:08
rizonzupgrading atm16:08
vfwrizonz: localhost in a browser should tell you something.16:08
rizonzvfw: it's a server16:08
vfwrizonz: lynx --dump localhost16:09
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rizonzvfw: upgrading atm16:09
vfwrizonz: Ok, just giving you a troubleshooting tip.16:09
rizonzvfw: thanks :)16:10
rizonzI need to move all servers to 16.0416:10
rizonzphp7 on 14.04 seems to be a pain still ?16:10
vfwrizonz: Correct....16:10
rizonzvfw: pity, why actually ?16:10
vfwrizonz: You mean why is php7 a pain on 14.04?16:11
CrackedCrackerAnyone?16:11
nicomachus!patience | CrackedCracker16:11
ubottuCrackedCracker: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:11
rizonzvfw: yes16:11
vfwrizonz: Oh, I dono..16:12
rizonzwhy can't it auth the sssd packages for an 16.04 upgrade ?16:12
white0erHek:I installed and found the link on notepad ++, but I could not figure it out during installation16:14
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ducassewhite: notepad++ is a windows program, not linux16:16
whiteducasse:https://itsfoss.com/notepad-alternatives-for-linux/ Link address given to me16:17
SinonX3does someone know if the sound got fixed already for asus e200ha16:17
ducassewhite: there are many text editors in the repos, install from the software center16:17
manakaXMLF16:19
whiteducasse:I am trying to follow the instructions but I constantly get the same error I can not find the command16:20
ducassewhite: what error? and what instructions?16:22
vfwwhite: What exactlty are you trying to do?>"16:23
srulii added a udev rule to disable touchpad when usb mouse is connected, i found this rule on the net, it works fine but only after user login, what do i need to change in it to make it work before login(run at boot)? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23618265/16:23
KsChoiceHi there, so my Asus RoG G705JM laptop with integrated intel and nvidia video suddenly lost multi monitor support.. I went to check and lspci no longer shows anything "nvidia".. dmesg no longer shows any reference about nvidia either, not even dmidecode shows anything.. I know that video cards don't just disappear into thin air, so can anybody tell me what happened here? Shouldn't dmidecode or lspci at the very least show the available16:23
KsChoicenvidia card? And why would they not show anything at all?16:23
OerHeksKsChoice, did you press FN key + monitor internal/external perhaps??16:25
whiteducasse:The linkte program I gave you tells you how to install it on ubuntu I wrote it in the command processor but I did not16:25
SinonX3nobody can help? asus vivobook e200ha sound problem?16:25
vfwsruli: It is a configuration that changes a user's experience, so it is limited to the user it is for.16:25
GnomeKrisSo. I have no idea what drivers I'm using on Ubuntu 16.04 because my additional drivers screen looks like this...16:25
GnomeKrishttp://imgur.com/18vmjVZ16:25
GnomeKrisAnyone have any clue as to what's going on?16:25
nicomachusGnomeKris: which driver are you looking for?16:26
whitevfw:I want to install Notepad ++ ubuntu16:26
k12Why are there so many files in my /home/.ecryptfs folder? I'm trying to run a clamscan, and there are thousands of files in that place.16:26
srulivfw: there must be a way to make the udev rule work regardless if user is logged in16:26
ducassewhite: i need to know what you type and which error you get, post them on paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link.16:26
GnomeKrisWell. I was under the impression that 16.04 came with Mesa drivers, but after digging deeper, I have no idea now.16:26
OerHeksKsChoice, Fn + F8 >> http://i2.wp.com/laptopmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/DSC05968.jpg16:26
nicomachusGnomeKris: sudo lshw16:27
KsChoiceOerHeks: checking16:27
ducassesruli: not with that script16:27
SinonX3...no sound? ._.16:27
KsChoiceOerHeks: though.. would that also disable the hardware?16:27
sruliducasse: any chance you can point me to an alternative?16:28
ducasseSinonX3: you might want to post your details again, i can't recall seeing them.16:28
GnomeKrisnicomachus: http://pastebin.com/hbTrBh1h16:28
OerHeksKsChoice, it is a hardware key combo, so yes, could well be16:28
ducassesruli: sorry, i've never tried this.16:28
SinonX3Asus Vivobook e200ha16:28
KsChoiceOerHeks: didn't do anything.. I guess it might be a bios issue...? Perohaps the card was somehow disabled there...16:29
KsChoiceI'll have to reboot, brb16:29
k12Is there an explanation at all?16:29
vfwKsChoice: Show us the output of lspci.  lspci |& nc termbin.com 999916:29
k12inb4 magic16:29
KsChoicevfw: http://termbin.com/49xt16:29
nicomachusGnomeKris: I don't seen any mesa drivers.16:29
GnomeKrisSo my pc isnt using my gpu at all then?16:30
SinonX3https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/156311016:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1563110 in linux (Ubuntu) "No sound on Asus e200ha, intel sst with cx2072x codec" [High,Confirmed]16:31
GnomeKrisnicomachus: If it's  not using any drivers for my gpu, then does that mean it's not using my gpu at all?16:31
vfwKsChoice: That is a pretty short list.  Is that lspci with no arguments?16:31
KsChoicevfw: yeah... That list indeed is.. weird... I executed the line as you specified16:31
KsChoicevfw: copy/paste16:32
whiteducasse: All right16:32
nicomachusGnomeKris: it's using the amdgpu drive16:32
nicomachusdriver16:32
KsChoicevfw: I'll check my bios real quick to see if something got disabled.. right back16:32
vfwKsChoice: Maybe you are right.  Maybe something in bios settings have been changed...16:32
nicomachusGnomeKris: you can see that easier with 'sudo lshw -C video'16:33
OerHeksdriver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'16:33
SinonX3ah crap dont wanna use win duck again16:33
SinonX3but no sound ..16:33
GnomeKrisOerHeks: was that for me?16:33
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nicomachusOerHeks: I think my way was easier. :)16:34
nicomachusbut that works too16:34
GnomeKrisI agree, nicomachus, your was was much simpler. But that's what I love about linux. More than one way to skin this cat.16:35
nicomachusSinonX3: can you state the issue you're having clearly and concisely so that we can try to help you, instead of just complaining about it?16:35
OerHeksnicomachus, there are many ways to Rome16:35
ducasseSinonX3: according to those comments, there is support planned for kernel ~4.10...16:35
nicomachusOerHeks: :)16:36
GnomeKrisAlso, based on the information given. Would you recommend I switch drivers? Which has typically better performance when it comes to gaming?16:36
nicomachusGnomeKris: I like the OSS radeon driver, but haven't tried amdgpu16:36
nicomachusI just hated fglrx and am glad it's ded16:36
vfwdead16:37
CrackedCrackerSorry to repost but i can't find anything to work16:37
CrackedCrackerI installed and then deleted gnome-terminal from gnome3 ppa and in while updating some of configs were messed up, so now nearly any theme's menus in header look like this https://imgur.com/a/4RJLs16:37
CrackedCrackerWhat shoud i reset to have back normal appearance?16:37
GnomeKrisI hated fglrx too. I'm gonna google up some OSS radeon driver info. Back in a few16:37
CrackedCrackerSorry, haven't reread that, I hope problem's clear16:38
nicomachusvfw: ded > dead16:38
nicomachusmore memery16:38
SinonX3ducasse: wow so i have to wait then?16:39
ducasseSinonX3: i don't know, just telling you what the comments in the bug report said.16:39
ducasseSinonX3: also, it said 'planned', not 'will definitely be there'.16:41
CrackedCrackerGuys, could anyone give me just a hint?16:42
mustmodifywhen software tells me to 'apt-get' I typically always prepend sudo because when I don't, I get an error. Are there some situations where a non-root user wouldn't have to use sudo?16:42
SinonX3wow never trought that ubuntu wont support a 2016 mainboard..16:42
SinonX3ok then waiting16:43
ducasseCrackedCracker: did you install any other packages from the ppa, or were some installed as dependencies?16:44
ikoniaI suspect it's just referencing a style/theme that no longer exists16:45
ikoniasetting the theme with the tweak tool I suspect would bring things back16:45
ducasseCrackedCracker: ^^16:46
CrackedCrackerducasse: Oh, thank you.16:46
CrackedCrackerWith gnome-terminal? Yep, i believe libgtk2 or something, I'm not sure, but i can look that up in dependenices and try to remember16:46
ducasseCrackedCracker: try ikonia's suggestion first, it's a simple test16:47
CrackedCrackerikonia: I tried, reinstalled theme in use (ambiance-flat), then that haven't worked - still same problems, now i removed it completely and swithed to default numix, but it's still the same16:48
CrackedCrackerI suspect there should be some common config, but can't find any of them16:49
gus-needs-helpi just installed lxde (not the desktop pkg) on top of ubuntu 16.04 but the DE switcher ubuntu orb on the login screen is missing. what might be wrong?16:49
gus-needs-helpis there any pkg i may have missed?16:50
vfwCrackedCracker: Maybe you should [also] ask #gnome16:50
vfwgus-needs-help: yes16:51
CrackedCrackervfw: Ok, i'll try now, thank you16:51
gus-needs-helpvfw what one?16:51
vfwgus-needs-help: Still using lightdm?16:52
gus-needs-helpi think so16:52
vfwgus-needs-help: maybe dpkg-reconfigure lxde16:53
gus-needs-helpvfw: its just the normal ubuntu login screen16:53
gus-needs-helpok16:53
vfwgus-needs-help: And you *do* get option for lxde.  Right?16:53
OerHeksgus-needs-help, see top panel far right, there you should be able to switch too16:53
gus-needs-helpno i dont16:53
ioriagus-needs-help, dpkg -l lxsession16:53
OerHeks'not the desktop pkg' makes me wonder16:54
gus-needs-helpioria: what would that do?16:54
ioriagus-needs-help, without it, very difficult to start lxde16:54
OerHekswb KsChoice16:54
ioriagus-needs-help, dpkg -l lxsession    tells you if that pkg is installed16:54
gus-needs-helpi just used vanilla lxde not lxde-desktop16:54
gus-needs-helpok16:54
ioria!info lxsession16:55
ubottulxsession (source: lxsession): LXDE default session manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2+git20160817-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 99 kB, installed size 382 kB16:55
vfwgus-needs-help: Maybe just install sddm16:55
vfw!info sddm | gus-needs-help16:56
ubottugus-needs-help: sddm (source: sddm): modern display manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.0-1ubuntu5 (yakkety), package size 271 kB, installed size 1201 kB16:56
ioriagus-needs-help,  if not installed,  suo apt-get install lxsession and logout/login16:56
Tachyon_on windows, I set up two default keyboard layouts: one for romanian programmers (which is basically the same as US), and standard romanian. I change them by alt-shift-ing. can I do the same of something similar on ubuntu ? thank you16:56
lol768Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 16.10.16:57
ducassegus-needs-help: is lxde-common installed? did you restart lightdm?16:57
lol768I'm on the "Installation type" page. I select "Something else"16:57
lol768but "Continue" is greyed out.16:57
gus-needs-helphang on a second16:57
vfw!info lxdm | gus-needs-help16:57
ubottugus-needs-help: lxdm (source: lxdm): LXDE display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1 (yakkety), package size 108 kB, installed size 527 kB16:57
CrackedCrackerShould I repost question or something? I'm really stuck and can't even make up something to google16:58
vfwgus-needs-help:  Yea, lxdm may be best.  (Not sure that's the problem but...)16:58
OerHeksTachyon_, yes, in ubuntu / unity winkey + space16:58
Asad2005I am getting an error in chromuim whenever i go to amazon us or uk saying your connection is not private please help chromium version Version 53.0.2785.143 Built on Ubuntu16:59
vfwAsad2005: date16:59
vfwAsad2005: firefox17:00
egon_chrome17:00
OerHeksAsad2005, if they use symantec certificates, it is a known issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/164138017:00
ducasseCrackedCracker: try purging the ppa with ppa-purge17:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1641380 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser: ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIRED for Symantec certs" [Critical,Fix released]17:00
KsChoicevfw: Alrighty.. So I rebooted, checked bios, nothing there about video card.. I tried to apply the nvidia current driver, but that failed as well.. ITs as if the video card is no longer there, is this a known issue? I mean, hardward disappearing??17:00
egon_here have pussy or not?17:00
Asad2005OerHeks: i am on ubunto my pc dat is ok17:00
vfwKsChoice: Same output from lspci?17:01
KsChoicevfw: yeah17:01
Asad2005the error is ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIRED17:01
ducasseegon_: watch your language17:01
OerHeksAsad2005, so that bug applies to you to, wait for chromium-browser 5417:01
vfwKsChoice: Ok.  If you don't see it in lspci or dmesg, trying to load drivers will not work.17:02
ppf_KsChoice: unplug/replug the card17:02
Asad2005OerHeks: so for now i can only use firefox?17:02
KsChoicevfw: http://pastebin.com/em3ZTpwt17:02
KsChoiceppf_: Its a laptop, that is the strange thing here...17:02
CrackedCrackerducasse: Thanks, i'll try now17:02
OerHeksAsad2005, any browser but chromium, yes17:02
Asad2005OerHeks: and when do you thisnk v54 will be released17:02
gstaniakanybody using kickstart installs for 16,04 desktops?17:02
Tachyon_thanks17:02
OerHeksAsad2005, no idea, soon?17:03
ppf_KsChoice: it's either switched off in bios (implying you didn't look correctly) or defect17:03
nomicautojoin works again17:03
nomicthnks17:03
Asad2005OerHeks: many thanks17:03
nomicmebbe network issue17:03
vfwKsChoice: I think it is a hardware issue.17:03
KsChoiceppf_: The bios didn't show anything about the video card17:04
KsChoicevfw: yeah, that is what its looking like now17:04
DutchC64hey people I am struggling with the same thing for 2 years now and right now it is really starting to piss me off17:04
whiteducasse:http://paste.ubuntu.com/ i posted17:04
vfwKsChoice: You might unplug power and remove battery for a while17:04
ppf_KsChoice: you can try and reset the bios17:05
DutchC64I am trying to get wine to talk to my usb=>serial converter so I can program my radio receiver17:05
ppf_and what vfw said17:05
ducassewhite: the _full_ url17:05
ppf_if nother of those work, then the card is broken17:05
backboxhi17:05
KsChoicevfw: ppf_: Both good options, I'll try them both right now, brb17:05
CrackedCrackerbrb, rebooting17:05
balbooaaais anybody here17:05
DutchC64I am really out of options here and about to just give up on the fricking thing17:06
DutchC64that radio receiver is the only reason I have an old laptop running windows 98 in my house right now17:06
ducasseDutchC64: that probably won't work, use a vm instead17:07
MadPsyDutchC64: use a VM, screw wine for that task17:07
vfwDutchC64: What is the radio receiver?17:07
vfwDutchC64: As MadPsy suggests, wine does not work for everything.17:07
balbooaaaDutchC64 indeed it doesn't17:08
vfwDutchC64: What is the make and model of the radio receiver?17:08
whiteducasse:Thank you no more trouble17:08
DutchC64vm on an intel Atom 455?17:09
DutchC64nah17:09
CrackedCrackerNo luck, although i removed ppa from gnome3-team at all17:09
vfwDutchC64: Is it single core?17:09
DutchC64the weirdest thing is the fact that I have read stories of other people using the same software with the same radio receiver in wine17:10
DutchC64yep17:10
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vfwDutchC64: What is the make and model of the radio receiver?17:10
DutchC64Uniden USC23017:11
Watakushi3Hello all? who played Euphoria(visual novel)?17:11
DutchC64using a PL2303 based USB=>serial converter17:11
DutchC64and it' s seen as ttyUSB017:11
ducasseCrackedCracker: close the application, run 'rm -rf ~/.config/gtk-*' in a shell and try again17:11
DutchC64added myself to dialout and even as a last resort to root17:11
Watakushi3Why are you all so cleveer?~ :(17:12
OerHeksWatakushi3, is that a windows game?17:12
Watakushi3MacOS too17:13
Watakushi3It is visual novel, not game17:13
odfhw5bv9sHi all! I have installed an emoji font (google-noto-color-emoji) but I don't see that they are rendered. WTF?17:13
CrackedCrackerducasse: It's not application specific, but yes, will try now.17:13
CrackedCrackerAlthough this folders contain nothing but gtkfilechooser and bookmarks respectively 2 and 317:13
CrackedCrackerthese*17:13
vfwKsChoice: 16.04?17:14
lol768okay I managed to get the graphical installer to work17:14
lol768How do I add an encrypted swap partition17:14
vfwDutchC64: 16.04?17:14
GnomeKrisWhat is a decent replacement for compiz? I'm tired of it using up so much cpu and memory.17:14
xandfury/list17:15
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xandfury 17:15
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Watakushi3What'   s up people17:15
GnomeKrisI mean, I have plenty of power, but when I game, I'd like to open up a bit more memory for my games to use.17:15
lol768well someone knows how to use IRC..17:15
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CrackedCrackerNope, still the same17:16
ikoniaCrackedCracker: what is the actual desktop you are currently using17:16
CrackedCrackerikonia: Xubuntu 16.0417:17
ikoniaCrackedCracker: so you're using xfce17:17
vfwDutchC64: Did you download the firmware for the SC230?17:17
CrackedCrackerikonia: yep17:17
ikoniaCrackedCracker: create a new user, login as that user, does that new users desktop work17:17
KsChoicevfw: reset BIOS, looks like card is back again.. Still not working yet, but at least it shows up in lspci17:17
ikoniaCrackedCracker: lets find out if it's a system problem or a problem with your users config17:17
vfwKsChoice: Ok. Looks like you are on the road to recovery....17:18
KsChoicevfw: quick question though: In lspci I do see NVIDIA 3D, but lspci | grep -i vga shows nothing yet.. Shouldn't the video card show up with | grep -i vga as well?17:19
OerHeksKsChoice, yes, it should17:20
lol768Can I seriously not resize paritions inside the /dev/mapper/sdx_crypt entires in the installer? It's made a 240 GiB swap partition17:21
KsChoiceOerHeks: well the weird thing is that before the BIOS reset, I did not see any nvidia reference at all17:21
KsChoiceAnd now I do see 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 860M] (rev a2)17:21
ikonialol768: you have to modify the partitions, no the crypt entry17:21
lol768I am ikonia17:22
ikonialol768: the crypt entry is an overlay on the partition, so you can't change the overlay size if the partition is the same size17:22
lol768it only lets me change the type17:22
lol768but it doesn't ask me what size partition I want17:22
lol768it just fills the whole thing up with an ext4 partition17:22
CrackedCrackerTested with other user, it's all the same, some boxes (like in gksu password prompt) do appear (i believe because of different theme), but it's still the same for tabs/menus in header17:23
CrackedCrackeroh, and some more clarification - it seems like only boxes arent' drawn, if that helps somehow17:24
ikoniaCrackedCracker: so I'd guess that whatever your default theme is - it's missing17:24
CrackedCrackerikonia: And how do I restore it?17:25
ikoniaif it's a new user it will use default, nothing custom17:25
CrackedCrackerikonia: yep, that's what I think happens17:25
ikoniaCrackedCracker: I have no idea what the default is - but I'd find out the name of it, and then reinstall the package containing that (don't reinstall it froma  website - use the ubuntu package so it goes to the right directories)17:25
mgr-4привіт17:25
CrackedCrackerikonia: thanks, i'll try17:26
ikoniaCrackedCracker: the guys in #xubuntu maybe able to tell you the theme name / package name off the top of their head17:27
ikoniaCrackedCracker: I don't know it without researching it17:27
ducassei think xubuntu uses graybird by default17:28
ikoniathere you go17:28
CrackedCrackerducasse: oh, thank you so much17:29
ts_moin17:35
CrackedCrackerUnfortunatelly, no luck once again17:35
ducasseCrackedCracker: are you still logged in as the new user?17:36
CrackedCrackerducasse: Nope, swithced to my usual17:36
ducasseCrackedCracker: the different themes under settings -> appearance have little effect on this?17:37
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UnityKristrying to upgrad amdgpu-pro from 16.30 to 16.50 and I get this error17:37
UnityKrishttp://pastebin.com/gwq7qHmu17:37
u__?17:38
CrackedCrackerducasse: Some of them change it, but others don't17:38
UnityKrisDo I need to remove 16.30 first or?...17:38
u__help17:38
vfwUnityKris: From what? To what?17:38
bulletxthi, Ubuntu doesn't ship libmail-spf-query-perl anymore. can someone please help my understand what's the new package name?17:38
ducasseCrackedCracker: does that mean some of them fix the error?17:38
shazhello17:38
UnityKrisvfw: updating amdgpu-pro drivers from 16.30 to 16.5017:39
UnityKrisNot ubuntu versions 16.**17:39
ilhamiwelcome reisio !17:39
CrackedCrackerducasse: Not sure "fix", they just change the appearance drastically, so issues are kind of resolved17:39
UnityKrisamdgpu-pro just happens to have the same version number17:39
reisioilhami: entirely too early in the day for that kind of cheery amiability :p17:40
ducasseCrackedCracker: which ubuntu version is this?17:40
CrackedCrackerducasse: 16.0417:40
CrackedCrackerducasse: xubuntu17:40
vfwUnityKris: What version of ubuntu are you using?17:41
UnityKris16.0417:41
ilhamihope you'll have a good day, reisio.17:42
ducasseCrackedCracker: did you use ppa-purge to get rid of the gnome ppa?17:42
reisioy tu17:42
r00trunnerCan someone please tell me how to allow to display .phps files by apache2? It always tells me I don't have sufficient priviliges to do so. html and php files work just fine.17:42
reisior00trunner: so the source is rendered?17:42
CrackedCrackerducasse: yes17:43
CrackedCrackermaybe i used it wrong, i should check now17:43
r00trunnerreisio: the .phps is almost equivalent to its .php file. but instead of being executed, the .phps file should just display the source17:43
reisior00trunner: right17:43
ducasseCrackedCracker: no, i'm sure that's fine.17:43
vfw!info amdgpu-pro xenial | UnityKris17:43
ubottuUnityKris: Package amdgpu-pro does not exist in xenial17:43
reisior00trunner: http://serverfault.com/questions/62410/apache-htaccess-phps ?17:43
ducasseCrackedCracker: i was just wondering if you could have gotten a gtk upgrade from some ppa...17:43
ducasseCrackedCracker: and that is what is breaking things. can you give me the link to the screenshot again?17:44
UnityKrisvfw, that just means it's not available in the default ppa's. Doesn't mean it cant be used at all.17:44
CrackedCrackerducasse: like, before? shouldn't be, i used only ravefinity-project17:44
vfwUnityKris: So, are using a ppa?17:44
CrackedCrackerducasse: sure, one second17:44
UnityKrisvfw: There isn't a ppa for amdgpu pro. It's only available by download from the website17:45
vfwUnityKris: ok.17:45
UnityKrishttp://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx17:45
CrackedCrackerducasse: http://imgur.com/a/4RJLs17:46
reisioaspx <headdesk>17:46
CrackedCrackernearly all the boxes disappear17:46
vfwUnityKris: http://pastebin.com/gwq7qHmu  is the result of what command?17:46
r00trunnerreisio: Thank you. It tells me to register an event handler, but it does not mention in which file. Any idea?17:47
tgm4883vfw: those look like dpkg errors17:47
ducasseCrackedCracker: try 'sudo apt install --reinstall greybird-gtk-theme' if you haven't already17:47
CrackedCrackerducasse: https://i.imgur.com/bm41vCQ.png17:47
CrackedCrackerthat's what I mean when "boxes disappear"17:47
ducasseCrackedCracker: weird.17:48
vfwUnityKris: So you downloaded https://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ubuntu/amdgpu-pro-16.40-348864.tar.xz ?17:48
tgm4883UnityKris: I'd try uninstalling the previous driver first17:48
CrackedCrackerducasse: Yes, i don't even know what could be causing this17:48
tgm4883vfw: no, he downloaded 16.5017:49
CrackedCrackerafk for a couple of minutes17:49
tgm4883vfw: and it looks like he got 16.30 installed17:49
ducasseCrackedCracker: either gtk itself is broken, or there is some theme-related settings causing this.17:49
reisior00trunner: be somewhere in /etc, try egrep -ir 'filesmatch|sethandler' /etc/(apache?)17:49
CrackedCrackerducasse: Is there any way to reset it? I reisntalled what was upgraded with gnome-terminal, nothing changed17:50
vfwUnityKris: tgm4883 Ok. Reading http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx17:50
CrackedCrackerducasse: And I can't even find any more configs for themes17:51
ducasseCrackedCracker: did you reinstall greybird-gtk-theme?17:51
vfwUnityKris: tgm4883 So it says 16.50 is Beta...17:51
ducasseCrackedCracker: also look under ~/local/share/themes17:52
tgm4883vfw: IIRC, all those drivers are beta17:52
tgm4883vfw: also, he doesn't appear to be in the channel anymore, so we can probably stop17:52
vfwUnityKris seems to be gone now....17:52
tgm4883that or my tab complete is broken17:52
vfwtgm4883: Works for you.17:53
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tgm4883vfw: so based on the output there and the package names, my best guess is that amd changed the naming convention between 16.30 and 16.50 and didn't do the packaging correctly to allow the new name to upgrade/replace the old name17:54
vfwtgm4883: Looks like he may need to get rid of the earlier version first.  Not sure.17:54
tgm4883vfw: yes that's what I said earlier :)17:54
moneryanyone know where you can request software to be added to the repositories for your arch when your NOT using i386 or AMD64?17:54
vfwtgm4883: Probably true.  Maybe he's fixing it now.17:54
moneryfind it annoying that I can't apt-get telegram17:55
tgm4883vfw: basically, dpkg will throw an error if you try to overwrite a file in another package (and the packaging wasn't done to handle that situation)17:55
vfwtgm4883: I wonder if there is a dpkg switch to force it?17:55
tgm4883vfw: well there is, but I wouldn't do that17:56
tgm4883I'd just uninstall the old version first17:56
CrackedCrackerducasse: yes, reinstalled.17:57
vfwtgm4883: Yea, that's prolly best.17:57
ducasseCrackedCracker: what version does 'apt policy libgtk2.0-0' report as installed?17:57
flyinprogrammerUbuntu 16.04.1, 4.4.0-53-generic on EC2; I've added `nohz=off clocksource=tsc`to my kernel command line, and i keep getting Override clocksource tsc is not HRT compatible - cannot switch while in HRT/NOHZ mode, what am I doing wrong?17:58
flyinprogrammerswitching to tsc works after boot though :/17:58
CrackedCrackerducasse: 2.24 ,both installed and candidate17:59
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CrackedCracker2.24.30-1ubuntu117:59
MonkeyDustflyinprogrammer  i guess overclocking is beyon the scope of this channel18:00
ducasseCrackedCracker: that's the right one. i'm rapidly running out of ideas, i think you should try #xfce - there are a decent number of people there.18:00
CrackedCrackerducasse: i don't have ~/local dir at all18:00
ducasseCrackedCracker: .local, sorry18:01
GrandPa-GIf I set up a wifi connect while as user A and put in a password, then I login as user B, the knowledge of the setup seems to be lost. How can I make it work for all users, or better, be setup at boot time?18:01
CrackedCrackerducasse: thanks for all the help18:02
CrackedCrackerthere is no theme[s] dir in ~/.local/share too18:02
ducasseCrackedCracker: ok, try #xfce, that's my best idea at this point - sorry...18:03
rizonzvfw: and fixed!18:03
rizonz15.10 was just a bricked fpm install back the days18:03
CrackedCrackerducasse: yes, I will try. Thank you once again.18:04
CrackedCrackerAnd thanks for other folks18:04
vfwrizonz: What were we working on? (I forgot?)18:04
voja.18:04
confused-headbashey can anyone help me with a usb not being recognised issue? :D18:05
vfwGrandPa-G: https://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2015/02/16/networkmanager-for-administrators-part-1/18:05
reisioconfused-headbas: ?18:05
vfwrizonz: Ok. Well, at any rate, the upgrade fixed your problem?18:06
GrandPa-Gvfw: I will read it but it is from 2004, a bit out of date?18:06
confused-headbasI have a usb wifi adaptor but ubuntu won't detect it using lsusb, but it does show up under usb-devices18:07
vfwGrandPa-G: It's all I could find.  But, that is kind of the way NetworkManager is set up.  A user sets up a connection - which is independent of any other user.18:07
reisioconfused-headbas: which adapter?18:07
confused-headbasTP-Link TL-WN823N18:07
vfwGrandPa-G: At least I think that's the way it works.18:09
ptyttyany new security vulns like initrc shell released at pwnfest18:09
r00trunnerIt simply does not work. Can anyone help me making .phps files accessible by apache218:09
confused-headbasreisio: I know that there are problems with the driver for this device, because I've had it before but this is a newer model of the same chipset I think... but it always was detected by lsusb in the past18:09
vfwGrandPa-G: If I remember correctly, wicd was different.18:09
rizonzvfw: yap and running PHP 7 now with the same apache.conf18:09
vfwGrandPa-G: Not totally sure though.18:09
confused-headbasreisio: I'm wondering if there is a way to manually assign a driver to a usb device?18:10
vfwrizonz: Oh yea, I remember now.  php7 and apache18:10
ducasseptytty: not on topic here18:10
GrandPa-Gvfw: I am really running a rack mount server box, but just put a gui on to make setup easier. don't really need to login18:10
MonkeyDustr00trunner  try a php channel18:10
ptyttyducasse: whats the chan?18:10
rizonzvfw: I was on 5.618:10
ducasse!alis | ptytty18:10
ubottuptytty: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"18:10
rizonzvfw: yo you bad admin, remeber more :P18:11
reisioconfused-headbas: could try https://github.com/christiantroy/TL-WN823N-V218:11
MonkeyDustr00trunner  type   /j ##php  (double #)18:11
ptyttyducasse: ubottu: kewl, thanks homme18:11
alex35/msg Alis list http18:12
Capprentice If a system has 16 GB of RAM, Xeon E7. What changes should be made except these http://pastie.org/10981822 for highest performance for a Transparent SQUID cache?18:15
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eelstreborapparently, lightspark isn't a 100% replacement for adobe flash18:19
reisioeelstrebor: y'mean it won't give me security problems?18:20
reisiodang...18:20
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eelstreborreisio, ?18:24
reisioeelstrebor: ?18:24
eelstrebori realize that there are security issues with adobe flash but i installed it on the wife's pc since there is one website that won't run without it - i have pperflash installed but it won't launch the video at that site18:28
reisiowhat site?18:28
eelstreborhttp://www.teletica.com/en-vivo.aspx18:31
eelstreborcan't get it to work in any browser without the adobe plugin18:32
reisioeelstrebor: works for me in chromium18:32
reisioeelstrebor: also works for me in Firefox, with chrome's flash18:33
eelstreborwell, i disabled all the other plugins and it still wouldn't work - i tried on all of my computers and even chrome on my smartphone wouldn't play any videos18:36
reisiommm, maybe it's blocking you by location or something strange like that18:38
araneidaeAfter an update, systemd has decided I've now got a startup dependency and has decided not to bother starting my nfs server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23620255/18:38
araneidaeAny suggestions for fixing this, please?18:38
araneidaeI have an nfs -o _netdev mount in my fstab, no doubt that's contributing...18:39
reisionfs, ew18:40
araneidaeEh?18:40
eelstreborreisio, i was getting a region restricted message on the web browser but not on the teletica smartphone app - the smartphone chrome gave that region message also -- both the pc and the smartphone is connected to the lan - strange stuff18:40
reisioeelstrebor: sounds like your issue, then18:41
maddawg2how come when i tell the installer for ubuntu to download updates during install it doesnt18:41
reisioeelstrebor: and if you go to http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x29e3wg directly?18:41
eelstreborthe interesting thing is that one day the web browser worked fine and then the next it didn't18:41
maddawg2i still have to do a apt-get upgrade18:41
maddawg2i would have thought selecting that would save time later18:41
maddawg2(as it suggests)18:41
reisiomaddawg2: you don't want to do that anyway, it introduces so many additional ways for the install to fail18:41
reisiomaddawg2: update after the base install is entirely done, after you're booted into it18:42
maddawg2what?18:42
eelstreborheh, i just removed adobe flash and the website works fine again - strange things happening18:42
akikaraneidae: found the same error message at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=184588 there's also one possible solution18:42
araneidaeakik, hmm.  Looks like a two year old bug has come back again, I guess :(18:44
akikaraneidae: araneidae although your paste doesn't contain nfs client18:45
araneidaeI have no idea what the impact of installing DefaultDependencies=False would be, have to say.  Systemd startup seems alarmingly brittle18:45
schemanichey18:45
akikaraneidae: did you read the systemd logs if they contain more information?18:45
schemanicI'm trying to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 but I'm getting 'failed to download repository information' from the update manager. Wat do?18:45
araneidaeYeah, akik, I'm not really very confident of tackling this without causing major breakage.18:45
eelstreborreisio, it's broken again and it won't launch at http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x29e3wg either18:46
vfwschemanic: Is your network connection ok?18:46
schemanicyep18:46
schemanicim talking to you arent I?18:46
akikschemanic: when you prepend your line with nick: it means your message is meant for nick18:47
araneidaeAlas, am not sure which logs to check.  dmesg was informative, but syslog not so much18:48
akikaraneidae: journalctl -xe18:48
MonkeyDustschemanic  the problem may have been for a different machine than the one you're using for irc18:48
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vfwschemanic: Was apt working ok before?18:48
vfwschemanic: Was your 16.04 fully updated?18:49
araneidaeakik, neither nfs nor remote-fs appear in the output of `journalctl -xe`18:50
akikaraneidae: you can tail that with "journalctl -f" and try restarting18:50
schemanicah I didn't notice the failure modal had an 'upgrade' button18:51
akikaraneidae: this could be relevant to you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/setserial/+bug/145264418:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1452644 in setserial (Ubuntu Wily) "NFSd does not start due to systemd ordering cycle with setserial" [High,Fix released]18:51
araneidaeakik, restarting my nfs server do you mean?  What's the systemd way to do this?18:51
araneidaeakik, yes, that looks promising!18:52
akikaraneidae: systemctl restart nfs-server.service i guess18:52
araneidae"Fix Released" 2015-09-24 .. hmph18:53
akikaraneidae: the bug report mentions that the problem is caused by setserial18:54
araneidaeakik, well, after running that command I have my NFS server back again.  Damn, each time I restart this box something else doesn't come back and has to be manually massaged18:54
akikaraneidae: "+ NFSd does not start due to systemd ordering cycle with setserial"18:55
araneidaeYeah. That's pretty strange.  What's the setserial service doing?!18:55
samanthaBONSOIR LE MONDE18:55
MonkeyDust!fr18:56
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:56
araneidaeI'm certain I'm not using any serial ports...18:56
araneidaeWhat's the systemd command to show the dependencies of setserial?18:57
xentity1xI'm trying to login to a computer via ssh. I can ssh into it from one computer but not another. The only difference is the troublesome computer has an ssh key setup. Anyone know what's wrong?18:57
akikaraneidae: systemctl list-dependencies setserial.service18:58
araneidaeHm.  Just shows system.slice, whatever that is18:59
akikaraneidae: on 16.04 it just output setserial.service19:00
maddawg2sigh i'm getting an odd error when i'm trying to install a package19:01
maddawg2http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libd/libdbi-perl/libdbi-perl_1.634-1build1_amd64.deb: Automatically disabled Acquire::http::Pipeline-Depth due to incorrect response from server/proxy. (man 5 apt.conf)19:01
araneidaeakik, pretty sure I'm 16.04, must have something wonky somehwere19:01
araneidaeYes, `lsb_release -d` says "Description:Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS"19:02
maddawg2well this is just odd... everytime i install ubuntu i always seem to be geeted with unexpected internal errors19:03
maddawg2sigh19:03
maddawg2it's like every update something is broken19:03
maddawg2god damn ubuntu19:04
maddawg2and it keeps quitting the damn package manager19:05
maddawg2WTF19:05
maddawg2this is a FRESH install... like literally just finished the isntall did a sudo apt-get upgrade and rbeooted19:05
monerymaddawg2: try a reboot?19:05
akikmaddawg2: sounds like a ram or hdd problem19:05
maddawg2ram or HD problem?19:05
moneryoh fresh... did u have any problems with install?19:05
maddawg2no19:05
maddawg2it's def not a ram or hd issue19:06
akikmaddawg2: try running the live session and see if that works19:06
maddawg2i did it worked fine19:06
monerysounds more hdd to me then19:06
moneryor bad copy over19:06
moneryhow many times have you installed the os19:06
akikthe live session doesn't use the hdd19:06
maddawg2i doubt that it's a bad hdd19:06
maddawg2it's a brand new server19:06
monerybrand new doesn't mean flawless19:06
maddawg2it was working fine before i ran sudo apt-get upgrade in fact19:06
araneidaeI understand that systemd creates its own internal config files from what it sees during startup; where does all this stuff live?  I want to hunt down what it's done for setserial19:07
moneryok, so something broke... it happens19:07
monerywhat packages did u update19:07
maddawg2i dont know which it upgraded19:07
maddawg2again it was a fresh upgrade19:07
xentity1xI have a problem where I login to a remote machine via ssh. It freezes. Then when I try to log back in the connection times out.19:07
moneryhas this server ever ran ubuntu stable?19:07
maddawg2yes monery19:07
maddawg2it's actualyl a vm19:07
monerywhat kind of vm19:07
maddawg2actually a vm*19:07
maddawg2hyper-v19:08
moneryis the VM set to use host CPU feasutres?19:08
monerysorry, features?19:08
maddawg2let me see if i can find that in hyperv19:08
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moneryalso, is your disk a real disk for an image... was the image fully allocated to you or does it grow as your disk needs grow19:09
geniiaraneidae: http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/amd64/setserial/filelist19:09
moneryif it grew wrong during upgrade process, could be problem19:09
maddawg2monery, it's not thin provisioned19:10
maddawg2tho it is an lvm19:10
maddawg2the ubuntu that is19:10
monerylots of stuff happens when you do apt-get upgrade...19:10
maddawg2...19:10
maddawg2well i sure hope that doesnt mean it breaks stuff19:11
maddawg2i mean it shouldnt on a brand new install19:11
araneidaegenii, that's odd: when I run `dpkg-query -L setserial` I get a *much* shorter list (3 files in init.d and lib only)19:11
monerymaddawg2: why...19:11
maddawg2because that would be the definition of "unstable"19:11
monerywhy can't crazy stuff just happen when its brand new...19:11
maddawg2because that would be unstable19:11
maddawg2i mean this is the 3rd time i installed this version of ubuntu19:11
maddawg2and same errors19:12
maddawg2and i even did it on a whole differnet machine19:12
monerynaw, it means crazy stuff happens... could have been a power sag in your data center, or at home, or a glitch in the power supply undervolting the host disk...19:12
moneryah well two servers breaking is different....19:12
moneryyou never mentioned that ;)19:12
maddawg2well the other wasnt a server19:12
maddawg2the other was just a standard desktop19:12
maddawg2but no vm19:12
maddawg2and interestingly the older version of ubuntu works perfect19:12
maddawg214.0419:13
maddawg2and 15.0419:13
maddawg2those both seem to work19:13
maddawg2it's just when i go to 16.0419:13
moneryupgrading to 16.04?19:13
maddawg2no19:13
maddawg2fresh19:13
maddawg2i dont do upgrades anymore because everytime i do it break19:13
maddawg2it breaks*19:13
maddawg2or stuff doesnt work right19:13
iresfanyone have had   experience with android studio  on both ubuntu 14.04  and ubuntu 16.04    ?19:13
moneryI hate armhf upgrades... those break the most ;-(19:13
maddawg2its odd it seems to happen when i try to open the ubuntu softaware cetner each time19:14
monerymaddawg2: I'd like to know more about the CPU's of your two troublesome machines....19:14
moneryhave you tried doing from terminal "sudo apt-get update"19:14
maddawg2Intel i5 in one and the server is 2 x 8 core Intel XEON (not sure the family)19:15
akikarjenvanderwal: not sure whether disabling setserial would help you but you can try19:15
maddawg2yes monery and it waits at "Waiting for headers" for a LOOONG time19:15
maddawg2but eventaully completes19:15
maddawg2an unsually long time19:15
Picimaddawg2: do you use a proxy to connect to the internet?19:15
maddawg2nope19:15
Picimaddawg2: tor?19:15
maddawg2direct connection.. 1gbps19:15
monerybeat me to it Pici19:15
maddawg2no tor19:15
moneryusing repositories in your country19:16
monery???19:16
maddawg2should be19:16
monerynever count on should ;)19:16
maddawg2again it's a fresh install so i'd assume thats default19:16
moneryCanonical's Ubuntu right?19:16
maddawg2what?19:17
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monerynot for example Liubuntu, or Ubuntu MATE, elementry.... these are all based on Ubuntu, but not from Canonical19:17
maddawg2monery the iso was got from here.. https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop19:17
moneryah so it is true Ubuntu...19:17
maddawg2yep19:17
MonkeyDustmaddawg2  got he whole channel confused19:18
moneryfresh install and Software Center and apt-get update never work right...19:18
maddawg2what?19:19
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squintymaddawg2, Software & Updates -> Download from -> Other -> Select Best Sever   it will do some tests and pick a good server19:19
monerysquinty: will that work if you never can run your first update of the repositories?19:19
maddawg2shows download from united states19:20
maddawg2it's interesting because it seems just "software Center" is causing the problem19:20
maddawg2if i open osftware center it immediately closes19:21
maddawg2then evnetually i will see an unexpected error window come up19:21
squintymonery, I have never encountered such a situation but my guess is it should still work19:21
Picimaddawg2: can you try something for me?19:21
monerymaddawg2: start with rebooting the computer... first thing you do... try "sudo apt-get update"...19:21
maddawg2yea i already rebooted19:21
maddawg2a number of times19:21
maddawg2just rebooted 2 seconds ago in fact19:21
moneryPici: what idea u got19:21
maddawg2already back19:21
Picimaddawg2: sudo apt-get -o Acquire::http::Pipeline-Depth=0 update19:22
squintyrecommend for 16.04 is apt   sudo apt update19:22
Picimaddawg2: is that any faster/19:22
the_pleiadianhi guys, i have full-drive encryption running with my 16.04. it only boots with a keyfile from usb stick. it works. but it always has a 90 second timeout, looking for a service named like my stick which doesn't exist. any pointers?19:23
monerysquinty: doesn't work that well on pi3... can be slower because of the parallel nature of the process19:23
maddawg2yes pici but i get "AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors."19:23
maddawg2that unusual19:23
Picimaddawg2: can you try doing the upgrade/install with the same option and see if that helps?19:24
squintybeen getting that message for a while now....tried switching servers  to see if it makes a difference but it seems to appear regardless of the server used19:24
the_pleiadianforgot to mention this happens at booting for me with the keyfile19:25
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maddawg2ok i am not sure what fixed it but now it's working19:27
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maddawg2which then leads me to another question... i installed mariadb-server and normally it's suppose to ask me to set up a root password but it didnt19:28
iresfanyone know on ubuntu 14.04.3    android studio or  especially java process take 100% cpu to build your sync project  ?19:28
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maddawg2ok screw it.. not gonna use ubuntu anymore this is crazy19:31
maddawg2nothing but errors and no time to sort it out19:32
ericsysminwhy?19:32
maddawg2going to debian19:32
ericsysminubuntu = great19:32
maddawg2at least that i know works19:32
ericsysminwhat errors?19:32
maddawg2dont feel like going through it19:32
maddawg2been working on it for 2 hours now19:32
ericsysminbeen running it for more than 10 years19:32
maddawg2and this is a FRESH install19:32
ericsysminwithout problems19:32
maddawg2i had too with older version19:33
ericsysminwhat version? and what's the problem19:33
maddawg2nvm you're late19:33
ericsysmink19:33
maddawg2it's hours long to explain19:33
ericsysminif something is hours long to explain, you're not doing a very good job explaining it.19:33
maddawg2ok whatever19:33
maddawg2if you didnt just get here then you'd know19:34
maddawg2but since you just got here you dont19:34
Picimaddawg2: good luck with debian.19:34
maddawg2so dont worry about it19:34
ericsysmink, good luck19:34
maddawg2i'm already annoyed that none of my scripts work in the new version of ubuntu too19:34
maddawg2systemd changes and the whole network card renaming thing19:34
tgm4883maddawg2: this is the support channel, not a channel for running commentary19:35
maddawg2i did ask for help19:35
tgm4883maddawg2: exactly19:35
* mpmc grabs popcorn.19:35
maddawg2and i got none19:35
ericsysminanyone here have a good suggested location of a custom service, i need it to support upstart, and systemd, we already have an init.d script, but want to make sure service also respawns on failure19:35
ericsysminok, so what's the question on renaming your network card19:36
tgm4883maddawg2: look, if you want to go use Debian then go do it. It's really no big deal to us.19:36
maddawg2there is no question on renaming it19:36
gtrmtxhey, so im running the instructions from https://gogs.io/docs/installation/install_from_binary when i cd into gogs and try ./gogs web it says no such file or directory, even though gogs is listed when i ls...whats going on?19:36
tgm4883maddawg2: but we really don't need you to clog up the channel19:36
maddawg2it's the fact that all my scripts look at a particular naming convention that no longer exists without me renaming the network cards19:36
ericsysmin./gogs will load the file itself , essentially executing it19:36
maddawg2which defeats the purpose of automating it so i'd have to redo all my scripts to make it work with the new "ens" crap19:36
ericsysminso if gogs doesn't exist then it will give you that error19:37
Picimaddawg2: you can disable the predictive naming thing.19:37
hggdhgrep Atrelus19:37
gtrmtxbut gogs does exist?19:37
maddawg2so when i asked yesterday and everyone said i couldnt disable that they were wrong?19:37
iresfubuntu can never debian19:37
ericsysmingtrmtx: is it marked as executable?19:37
gtrmtxin putty it would show up as green right?19:38
gtrmtxif so then yes19:38
ericsysmindo a ls -lart19:38
ericsysmin-rwxr-xr-x should show up19:38
ericsysminor similar19:38
gtrmtx-rwxr-xr-x  1 1000 1000 24963622 Sep  1 06:19 gogs19:38
gtrmtxso yeah19:38
ericsysminand you did `./gogs web`19:38
gtrmtxyep19:39
ericsysmintry just gogs web19:39
ericsysminwithout the `./`19:39
gtrmtxno command gogs found19:39
gtrmtxwhats frustrating is that it was working19:40
Picimaddawg2: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/628217/use-of-predictable-network-interface-names-with-alternate-kernels , the first answer has a bunch of options on how to do this... I'm sorry I'm not sure which option Ubuntu uses right now, I haven't done a fresh install in a while.19:40
gtrmtxtyping ./gogs web19:40
tgm4883maddawg2: a quick search suggests using net.ifnames=019:40
ericsysmingive me a sec19:40
gtrmtxk19:40
gtrmtxthx btw19:40
tgm4883http://askubuntu.com/a/80131019:40
Picitgm4883: ah, thats a better one to save.19:41
ericsysmingtrmtx: worked for me19:41
ericsysminwhat's your pwd19:41
gtrmtxpwd?19:41
ericsysmintype pwd in19:41
ericsysmin(present working directory)19:42
maddawg2well the network card isnt the issue so much right this second because this vm isnt going to need those, but i've been having errors with the package manager and my OS crashing right after a fresh install19:42
maddawg2i keep gettign unexepcted error popups19:42
maddawg2wants me to send error reports19:42
maddawg2gnome crashes19:42
gtrmtx`/var/www/gogs/`19:42
maddawg2and the software cetner crashes19:42
tgm4883maddawg2: you either want help here or you are moving to debian. Please stop teasing us19:43
maddawg2?19:43
ericsysminand you see these right? in /var/www/gogs/: gogs  LICENSE  public  README.md  README_ZH.md  scripts  templates19:43
maddawg2you just asked me something and i responded19:43
ekarakoc@search mari ruti19:43
gtrmtxLICENSE  README.md  README_ZH.md  gogs  public  scripts  templates19:43
maddawg2not sure what you mean by "teasing"19:43
tgm4883maddawg2: we didn't ask you anything19:44
_antrix_Hi, I wanted to use the sim card WWAN on hp elitebook 8440p. I dont know how to configure it on ubuntu 16.0419:44
maddawg2you're right you responded with how to disable the autonaming19:44
maddawg2but that's not even the problem i'm having19:44
maddawg2that was an aside note19:44
tgm4883maddawg2: and by teasing, I mean you already said you didn't want help and that you were moving to Debian. So please stop clogging up the channel and just do it already19:44
maddawg2i never said i didnt want help19:44
ekarakoc@search mari ruti19:44
maddawg2i said i wasnt getting help19:45
maddawg2there's a difference19:45
nicomachusekarakoc: what are you trying to do?19:45
vfwgtrmtx: What are you trying to do?19:45
nicomachusheh19:45
maddawg2the help being provided obviously wasnt working19:45
tgm488311:31 AM <maddawg2> ok screw it.. not gonna use ubuntu anymore this is crazy19:45
maddawg2i mean it's literally a FRESH os how can there be so many problems?19:45
maddawg2on 3 seperate machines19:45
gtrmtxim trying to init gogs19:45
nicomachusmaddawg2: probably an issue with the original installation image19:45
nicomachusor medium19:45
maddawg2the md5 checks out19:45
maddawg2so maybe it's messed up on ubuntu's site?19:46
vfwgtrmtx: what is gogs?19:46
tgm4883maddawg2: user error then?19:46
_antrix_Hi, I wanted to use the sim card WWAN on hp elitebook 8440p. I dont know how to configure it on ubuntu 16.0419:46
nicomachusbut if the USB drive is bad, or a bad disc.19:46
gtrmtxvfw, gui for git19:46
maddawg2tgm4883, or i think doing sudo apt-get upgrade broke it19:46
gtrmtxthink internal github19:46
Picimaddawg2: If the option I gave you fixes the apt issue, the actuall issue suggests that theres something weird with your internet connection. some sort of proxying is going on with a server that does not support http pipelining.19:46
tgm4883maddawg2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor19:46
maddawg2because as i said it was a fresh setup and i made it to desktop19:46
ericsysminhttp://pastebin.com/mXXKXKMj19:46
maddawg2as soon as i ran that it broke everything19:46
vfwgtrmtx: Ok, I don't know about gogs19:46
maddawg23rd time in a row19:46
ericsysmingtrmtx: try that19:47
maddawg2i mean the older ubuntu installs fine19:47
nicomachusmaddawg2: what version of ubuntu are you installing?19:47
maddawg2i was trying to do 16.04LTS19:47
nicomachus64 bit or 32?19:47
maddawg2i have 14.04 and 15.04 both working19:47
maddawg264-bit19:47
nicomachus15.04 is EOL19:47
tgm4883maddawg2: is it more likely that apt upgrade broke it and that you are the only one that bothered to report the issue here, or that there is some sort of hardware/user error?19:47
maddawg2i know19:47
maddawg2thats why i'm trying to do 16.0419:47
maddawg2i'm upgrading my stuff on the older versions to the newest19:48
nicomachuswait19:48
nicomachusupgrading or a fresh install?19:48
gtrmtxericsysmin, thats basically what i did, except i did tar -zxvf19:48
maddawg2but upgrading it from 15.04 to 16.04 broke it19:48
maddawg2so i did a fresh install19:48
maddawg2and that isnt working either19:48
maddawg2nicomachus, tried both got different problems with both19:48
Nestyhello19:48
vfwmaddawg2: You can't upgrade from 15.04 to 16.0419:48
nicomachus^ right19:48
maddawg2which i discovered19:48
maddawg2hence why i'm trying to do a fresh install19:49
nicomachusand to do a fresh install then, you would have to completely write over the disk or create a new partition for it. are you doing that?19:49
maddawg2and that installed19:49
vfwmaddawg2: Good.19:49
maddawg2but as soon as i did sudo apt-get upgrade it broke19:49
gtrmtxwait19:49
maddawg2now i get to desktop and i get system crashes19:49
gtrmtxi think i may know what i did19:49
nicomachusmaddawg2: did you check the sources.list before upgrading?19:49
tgm4883maddawg2: ok, so you do a fresh install. That works. You then do an 'apt-get upgrade' and it breaks. What does "it breaks" mean?19:49
gtrmtxlet me test y theory19:49
gtrmtxmy*19:49
vfwmaddawg2: what error do you get from sudo apt-get upgrade?19:49
maddawg2tgm4883, i get unexpected errors and gnome crashes19:49
maddawg2i dont get an error with the command in fact it appears to work19:50
maddawg2but then after i reboot things wont open19:50
maddawg2and gnome crashes19:50
maddawg2and i get unexpected errors and it wants me to send system reports19:50
tgm4883maddawg2: gnome crashes or unity crashes?19:50
vfwmaddawg2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:50
maddawg2gnome is what the error said19:50
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maddawg2i pasted the error a bit ago... i 'd have to find it19:51
maddawg2i dont have it up right this second19:51
ericsysmingtrmtx: ok, let me know19:51
nicomachusmaddawg2: you did a fresh install and then immediately apt-get upgrade? no apt-get update first?19:52
maddawg2nicomachus, no i did sudo apt-get update too19:52
vfwmaddawg2: What errors do you get?19:52
maddawg2besides taking an abnormal amount of time sudo apt-get update worked19:52
maddawg2vfw i got no error when i did either19:52
maddawg2the errors came after the upgrade completyed19:53
vfwmaddawg2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:53
vfwmaddawg2: See if it finishes without errors19:53
maddawg2it does19:53
maddawg2it has19:53
maddawg2but the OS crashes19:53
gtrmtxericsysmin, figured it out...im dumb19:53
maddawg2the erros are all in the gUI19:53
maddawg2not in the command19:54
ericsysmingtrmtx: what was it? I am curious19:54
gtrmtxi was trying to use 32 bit and i needed 64 bit19:54
maddawg2after i ran those is when it errored out19:54
ericsysmingtrmtx: ah, that would cause it19:54
gtrmtxi thought 64 bit machines could run 32 bit programs though?19:54
maddawg2as ui mentioned.. software center reefuses to open19:54
vfwgtrmtx: They can.19:54
vfwgtrmtx: When or if it is necessary.19:54
maddawg2and just randomly with nothing running i get unexpected system errors and it asks for me to send a report19:54
maddawg2i had like 40 of those pop up19:54
tgm4883maddawg2: you keep saying the OS is crashing, but keep mentioning errors regarding gnome. Sounds like a few things in gnome aren't working right. So let me ask you this. Is it currently installed and (as you call it) broken?19:55
gtrmtxbut bash wouldnt run when i had the 32 bit version19:55
gtrmtxi HAD to use the 64 bit19:55
ericsysminhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/454253/how-to-run-32-bit-app-in-ubuntu-64-bit19:55
maddawg2tgm4883, yes i get unexpected errors and it needs to send a report19:55
xentity1xHi, I'm having a problem where I'm trying to ssh in to a remote machine. I'm testing on two different machines: one local the other a digital ocean vm. I am successful with the digital ocean vm but the my local one times out. What gives?19:55
ericsysminyou need the packages to process 32bit code19:55
maddawg2then i get a crash referring to gnome19:55
maddawg2two different messages19:55
tgm4883maddawg2: ok, when you installed, you said this is a fresh install not an upgrade. Did you wipe your home directory?19:55
nicomachusxentity1x: the local one should use a local ip, the droplet should use an external ip19:55
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maddawg2and also the machine freezes up19:55
maddawg2yes it's a whole new VM19:56
maddawg2nothing on it at all19:56
nicomachusxentity1x: so the same ssh command won't work from both19:56
vfwxentity1x: Sounds like a network problem.  Can you ping it?19:56
maddawg2no home directory to write over19:56
maddawg2interestingly i just installed ubuntu on my vmware esxi server and did all that it works19:56
maddawg2if i move it to hyperv it does not19:56
maddawg2or rather if i install it on hyper-v19:56
nicomachusmaddawg2: this is VM???19:56
maddawg2yes19:56
tgm4883maddawg2: and did you install the hyper-v stuff?19:56
nicomachusyou completely failed to mention that.19:56
maddawg2no i didnt19:57
tgm4883(I'm assuming there is hyper-v stuff to be installed)19:57
g2omg the hls :P19:57
maddawg2i said it was awhile ago19:57
maddawg2i also tried to install it directly to a dell desktop tho with no vm and had same issue19:57
maddawg2as what i had in hyper-v19:57
maddawg2but if i do it in vmware esxi it's fine and works as intended19:57
vfwxentity1x: If you can ping the IP address ok, see if it is answering to port 22.  namp -p 22 192.168.x.x19:58
tgm4883maddawg2: ok, so ESXi works fine and Hyper-V and some dell desktop it breaks?19:58
maddawg2two dell desktops yes19:58
maddawg2and hyper-v19:58
maddawg2Dell Optiplex 7010 and Dell Optiplex 704019:58
tgm4883maddawg2: see this is good information to have.19:59
maddawg2but the vm is on an HP server... gotta check the exact model19:59
maddawg2well i explained this all at the begining of my problem19:59
MonkeyDustmaddawg2  several hours ago... people have left and others entered in the mean time20:00
xentity1xvfw, i actually cant ping it from either20:00
tgm4883maddawg2: that's all fine and everything, but it would really help if you had typed this out in a single concise statement, that way when new people enter it's easy to refer back to20:00
vfwxentity1x: Sounds like a network problem.20:00
xentity1xnicomachus, sorry i dont understand. I was actually able to ssh in from my local an hour ago. Then the connection froze and I was unable to reconnect.20:01
vfwxentity1x: If you can not ping it, you will not be able to establish a secure shell with it.20:01
xentity1xvfw, why would i be able to ssh in from the digital ocean vm but not be able to ping it?20:02
vfwxentity1x: Different network maybe?20:02
tgm4883xentity1x: where is the server you are trying to SSH to?20:02
tgm4883vfw: also, lots of places block ping, so that may not really be a good test20:03
xentity1xtgm4883, it's on a university campus.20:03
vfwtgm4883: nmap then20:03
tgm4883xentity1x: maybe your IP is banned20:03
nicomachusxentity1x: ahhh... on a university campus that can be tricky. they may not have port forwarding set up, might be blocking IPs from droplets, who knows.20:04
ericsysminif I had a shell script that i used to use as an init script, but now want it to work for systemd and upstart as well, where should I put it /usr/sbin/ or /etc/init.d?20:04
vfwxentity1x: nmap -p 22 ip.add.ress.here20:04
nicomachusericsysmin: give this a read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers20:04
jboHi there -- I have a problem with my gfx drivers that blanks the screen during boot. I need to get to a terminal-only boot which has networking support so that I can install/reinstall stuff through apt. I'm using "text systemd.unit=multi-user.target nomodeset" on the kernel command-line in grub, but it's still starting X. What am I missing?20:05
jboaugh, must have mis-typed -- it just worked :P20:06
nicomachusjbo: hit Alt+F1-F6 for a TTY20:06
vfwxentity1x: nmap -P0 -p 22 ip.add.ress.here  #If you suspect ping is blocked20:07
jbonicomachus: working now, but for reference, whatever was breaking gfx was completely disabling the monitor, even for ttys (modesetting, most likely)20:07
vfw!nomodeset | jbo20:08
ubottujbo: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:08
vfwjbo: But, you can't even get a console tty?20:08
jbovfw: not in a normal boot, no.20:08
vfwjbo: I dono then20:09
jboI've got one now - I think that in the kernel CLI I tried "systemctl" not "systemd" -- saw the mistake when I re-typed it here.20:09
ericsysminnicomachus: found my answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/308045/differences-between-bin-sbin-usr-bin-usr-sbin-usr-local-bin-usr-local20:10
WeiJunLiqemu users?20:12
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akik!ask | WeiJunLi20:12
ubottuWeiJunLi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:12
WeiJunLiakik: im trying to run qemu vm manually but cant figure out what's missing, http://dpaste.com/1KCS9ZM20:13
tomreynWeiJunLi: is this a syntax your shell or quemu-system-x86_64 understand? qemu-system-x86_64 []string{"..."}20:21
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WeiJunLitomreyn: yes20:22
tomreyni woiuld expect it to only accept dash type characters20:22
tomreyni woiuld expect it to only accept dash type parameters20:22
WeiJunLiyou can take the []string syntax and just keep with the {...}20:22
WeiJunLithe output is the same20:22
WeiJunLias you can see on the log the output is directly from qemu20:22
tomreynsure, it just doesn't understadn the parameters20:23
tomreynpossibly due to shell expansion20:23
WeiJunLiwhat do you mean by shell expansion?20:24
tomreynhmm ignore that, i was mistaken20:25
tomreynstill, if it doesn't work as expected, i'd try with just dash based parameter syntax20:26
rektide_i added a keyring into /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d, and now all my repos in apt tell me GPG error: At least one invalid signature encountered. How can I debug this? :/20:27
YounderStartup shell code under /etc/init.d uses dash which has  posix shell suntax, yes.20:28
zartarranyone know what DEV=/dev/mmcblk0 means?20:29
YounderLooks like a SD card driver20:30
akikzartarr: that sets the shell variable DEV20:32
tomreynWeiJunLi: so my suggestion is to try this http://pastebin.com/raw/Nki5r1kb20:32
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WeiJunLitomreyn: just a sec, some connection issues20:38
WeiJunLipretty slow connection20:38
YounderIt's RasPi that by default boots from a SD card. so it would seem more natural there.20:38
rektide_zartarr, Younder: onboard NAND ("flash" memory) can also appear as /dev/mmcblk devices, but yeah, most often seen is just a SD card20:44
jon2royal mail delivery of lost penis pump and 10 playboy magazines, dax did you lost in heathrow airport? retweet @team drpeater said funch and dax share same penis pump?20:48
jon2:D20:48
jon2haha20:48
nicomachus!ops | jon220:49
ubottujon2: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu20:49
jon2royal mail delivery of lost penis pump and 10 playboy magazines, dax did you lost in heathrow airport? retweet @team drpeater said funch and dax share same penis pump?20:49
jon2nicomachus: ops!20:49
jon2:D20:49
jon2nicomachus: did u share it too?20:49
OerHekskiddo, please move to an other network than #freenode, thanks20:49
jon2royal mail delivery of lost penis pump and 10 playboy magazines, dax did you lost in heathrow airport? retweet @team drpeater said funch and dax share same penis pump?20:49
jon2:D20:49
nicomachusthanks dax20:50
c0ff33Hi, someone has experience with Ubuntu on Samsung np740u3e with discrete GPU?20:55
popeyc0ff33: unlikely20:56
popeyoh, maybe :)20:56
popeyc0ff33: any specific issue?20:56
c0ff33popey: actually I want to disable this useless piece of crap...20:57
c0ff33but there is no hardware switch/bios setting to this20:57
c0ff33*to do this20:57
popeyyeah, I don't know how you can do that either, sorry.20:57
c0ff33Think it's time for new laptop...20:58
popeythere's a setting you can flip on boot, you could try that though20:58
popeyradeon.modeset=0 on the grub command line20:58
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popeybasically edit /etc/default/grub and add the above to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT20:59
popeyworth a try20:59
c0ff33Thank you very much20:59
c0ff33I will check in a moment20:59
deco_Any suggestions to VPN service21:00
popeydeco_: i use lantern21:00
popeyhttps://getlantern.org/21:01
vfwdeco_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN21:01
OerHekspopey, c0ff33 if nomodeset does not do the trick, try runpm >> http://askubuntu.com/a/78096721:02
c0ff33Will report on results in a second21:03
c0ff33Hope that this crap will stop draining my battery21:03
c0ff33OerHeks: Thanks21:03
nicomachusdeco_: here's a nice, handy comparison chart: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FJTvWT5RHFSYuEoFVpAeQjuQPU4BVzbOigT0xebxTOw/htmlview?sle=true#gid=021:03
nicomachusdeco_: sorry, apparently it moved: https://thatoneprivacysite.net/21:04
matej_hi guys, I have only ubuntu installed on my HDD.. now I want to format HDD and install win7 only but my USB liveCD with win7 is not recognised .. do I need something to do before installing win7?21:06
Exterminadorguys i've added a ppa via sudo add-apt-repositiory. now how do i do the reverse? to remove it?21:06
nicomachus!ppa-purge | Exterminador21:07
ubottuExterminador: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html21:07
Exterminadornicomachus, thks21:08
nicomachusmatej_: you'll have to shut down the machine and then boot into the live USB21:08
nicomachusmatej_: and after that, you'll have to ask the #windows guy, because you won't be on Ubuntu anymore.21:08
matej_nicomachus, yes, but it is not recognised21:08
nicomachuswhat do you mean it's not recognized?21:08
nicomachusyou can't boot from the USB?21:08
c0ff33popey: radeon.modeset apparentlly worked21:08
matej_nicomachus, when I press to boot the USB, it wont do that.. i can only boot to ubuntu grub21:09
c0ff33popey: will check effect on battery life, thank you21:09
nicomachusmatej_: is this UEFI or legacy boot?21:10
stefgmatej_: so you have to check your bios/uefi settings to boot from usb, and make sure that the usb thumbdrive is actually bootable.21:10
matej_nicomachus, UEFI i think... i will try legacy but dont know if CSM enabled or disabled?21:11
matej_stefg, hot to check if its bootable?21:11
stefgmatej_: the simplest method would be to try it on another machine...21:12
matej_stefg, im gonna try that, thx21:12
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Guest7114doh21:13
popeyc0ff33: wow! good news21:15
* deco_ munched all my bandwidth21:17
* deco_ for all we know it was 400 pound haxhor21:18
matej_stefg, dont work, but in windows, it shows "autoplay" and "install" option so I can install from the system but not after rebooting.-- I used unetbootin to create liveUSB, is there any other program to make liveUSB?21:18
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nicomachus rufus21:21
nicomachusor the ubuntu "Startup Disk Creator"21:21
matej_nicomachus, thx, i try rufus21:22
OerHeksunetbootin can make issues indeed, try rufus, or etcher universal mac pc http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source21:23
stefgmatej_:  unetbootin might have problems  able to make a *windows* bootable stick. I'd search the web/ask windows guys how to properly make a win7 bootable installer usb-stick ..21:23
OerHeksetcher might work for win isos too21:23
OerHeksno negative feedback up to now21:24
akikmatej_: you can create the win7 usb stick in ubuntu with these commands https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/how-to-create-a-bootable-windows-7-usb-stick-in-linux/21:24
OerHeks(for win iso)21:24
stefgBTW... in reality i'd not install win7 to bare metal anymore, except maybe for a 'wintendo'21:25
matej_thx guys, i try rufus and then in case it wont work out, ill try other methods21:26
matej_stefg, why?21:26
xentity1xI'm trying to run a command when i login into an ssh shell using the -t command line option: ssh server -t "workon keras_projects". I get the error bash: workon: command not found. Anyone know why? If I try to execute the commmand manually after login it works.21:27
allemanmjo21:28
stefgmatej_: because i find (not surprisingly) linux in general and espesially ubuntu to be the far better OS... but your mileage may vary. and beauty is in the eye of the beholder..21:28
allemanmwhat ist his?21:29
allemanmjust joined linux21:29
stefg!topic21:29
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic21:29
akikallemanm: what is what?21:29
allemanmhex chat21:29
allemanmjust a communication tool?21:29
allemanmto talk to strangers?21:29
akikallemanm: how did you manage to join this channel if you don't know what irc is?21:30
allemanmhaha21:30
allemanmuhm21:30
akikallemanm: this is a volunteer support channel for ubuntu21:30
Piciakik: it joins here by default.21:30
akikPici: what joins here?21:30
Piciakik: hexchat21:31
akikPici: oh ok21:31
deco_theosophical* eww21:31
xentity1xI'm trying to run a command when i login into an ssh shell using the -t command line option: ssh server -t "workon keras_projects". I get the error bash: workon: command not found. Anyone know why? If I try to execute the commmand manually after login it works.21:31
allemanmi just clicked join21:31
matej_stefg, yes ubuntu is great system but my network card is not friend with linux and I have lot of problems with wifi and ethernet connection21:32
matej_stefg, so after 6 months on ubuntu im forced to go windows :(21:32
stefgmatej_:  yeah, common problem. If you intend to run linux make sure you have hardware that works with it. Get a thinkpad or some ubuntu/linux preinstalled machine. I'm p*ssed by the situation e.g. with the ALX-driver as well.. But i rather change hardware than the OS21:35
* deco_ thinks its the comrade fatueges21:39
stefgxentity1x: so it's the environment.  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/216202/why-does-an-ssh-remote-command-get-fewer-environment-variables-then-when-run-man21:40
stefgxentity1x: try making a "proxy-script" in your home dir that just contains that command /but with the full path/ to your 'workon' script21:43
SlownHi guys21:47
Slowncan someone tell me what's the differences between lts version and debian ?21:47
stefg!debian21:47
ubottuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!21:47
Slownwhat kernel is used with ubuntu 16.04 lts please ?21:48
Slownthe latest please21:48
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stefguname -a21:48
stefgLinux alpha 4.4.0-53-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Fri Dec 2 15:59:10 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:48
Slownthanks stefg21:49
barabais ti possible to update openssl on 16.04 lts to >= 1.1.0 version21:49
nicomachusbaraba: probably not, 16.10 is only on 1.0.2g21:49
Slownwhat DE are supported on the LTS version ?21:50
nicomachusbaraba: backport on that is going to take awhile21:50
deco_is ubuntu a debian distro, whats so special about debian21:50
nicomachusSlown: all kinds21:50
knitteli've got a prob21:50
deco_I wont fussle around.21:50
nicomachusdeco_: see the factoid above. Ubuntu is built on the foundation of debian21:50
barabadebian testing already has 1.1.0, nicomachus21:50
OerHeks!flavors21:50
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE21:50
knitteli cant install plasma 5.6 on ubuntu 16.04 :(21:50
knittel32 bits21:50
nicomachusbaraba: and that's fine, ubuntu doesn't.21:50
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deco_u used to be drawn to debian first server enviroment21:51
SlownIs php7 supported by ubuntu 16.0421:51
deco_maybee!21:51
Slown?21:51
OerHeksSlown, yes21:51
PiciSlown: yes, its in the repositories.21:51
Slownofficial ?21:51
knittelhello oerheks21:51
Slownor backport21:51
tgm4883Slown: do you have a support question? These aren't really support questions21:51
OerHekssee the releasenotes21:51
nicomachus!info php7 | Slown21:51
Picitgm4883: sure they are.21:51
ubottuSlown: Package php7 does not exist in yakkety21:51
nicomachuserr...21:52
knittelubuntu not compatible with a certain "telepathy"?21:52
Slownexist or not ?21:52
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#PHP_7.021:52
nicomachus!info php7.0 | Slown21:52
ubottuSlown: php7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.8-3ubuntu3 (yakkety), package size 5 kB, installed size 62 kB21:52
Pici!info php xenial21:52
tgm4883Pici: eh, if you say so21:52
ubottuphp (source: php-defaults (35ubuntu6)): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default). In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0+35ubuntu6 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB21:52
* deco_ looking console tweeks for "irssi" 21:52
Picideco_: you may want to ask #irssi then21:52
nicomachusdeco_: check with #irssi21:52
deco_pici, Ty.21:53
Slownthat's a great news21:53
Slownso it's supported21:53
Slownthanks21:53
knittelinstall-kde-plasma-5-in-linux/21:53
knitteli want to do this but it wont21:53
nicomachusknittel: is it giving you a specific error?21:54
knitteldoes the terminal keep the "history"?21:54
Slownso is it better to go with an LTS version or an ordinary one ?21:54
deco_knittel, sometimes21:54
SlownI'm using ubuntu for web stuff21:54
* deco_ der#21:54
nicomachusknittel: yes, in .bash_history21:54
knittelyes always it cant install something wich is called "telepathy" something21:54
stefg!LTS | Slown21:55
ubottuSlown: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1)21:55
knittelits quite a lot of time, so i need to start all over21:55
Slownstefg, LTS is better ?21:55
\9_knittel: it's a known issue, you need to run a few commands for it to work21:55
MonkeyDustknittel  looks like you need a ppa http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-4-available-in-16-04-backports/21:55
nicomachusLTS is better if you want a more stable system that will work for awhile without a lot of updating21:55
\9_MonkeyDust: no the dependencies are screwed up21:55
Slownok21:55
\9_MonkeyDust: has been since 16.04 and ubuntu still hasn't bothered to fix it21:55
MonkeyDusto21:55
MonkeyDustok21:55
knittelok, tx and i need to uninstall the other 1st?21:55
knittelor simply "overinstall it?21:56
nicomachus\9_: is there a bug report?21:56
\9_try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/621284/unmet-dependencies-when-trying-to-install-kde-plasma-5-3-on-ubuntu-15-0421:56
bokrassHello everyone !21:56
Slownunity or xfce ?21:56
deco_hi bokrass21:57
Slownwho is the most friendly21:57
stefgSlown: for Joe Average i'd say yes. If you don't need the bleeding edge (and don't like to bleed) stay with LTS. the in between versions only have 9 months of support...21:57
\9_nicomachus: i surely expect there to be for the inability to install kde for the past 1.5 years21:57
nicomachusSlown: that's user-preference21:57
Slownwho is more stable ?21:57
deco_bokrass you got a question.?21:57
nicomachus\9_: haha, just making sure. you never know...21:57
knittelthanx all, i go 2 check it out21:57
\9_https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/145172821:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1451728 in kaccounts-integration (Ubuntu) "[master] kde-config-telepathy-accounts package install error" [Critical,In progress]21:57
stefgSlown: as you've guessed the LTS versions21:57
nicomachusSlown: it's personal preference. both are stable. up to you.21:57
* deco_ ask's21:57
tomreynhi bokrass21:57
* deco_ munched my bandwidth21:58
Slownxfce is much lighter ?21:58
bokrassTech question: why is udev reading rootfs's /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and not Systemd's set ? (/etc/systemd/network) ?21:58
Slownright ?21:58
nicomachusyes21:58
Slownyeah and what about the minimal edition21:58
nicomachusdeco_: if you don't have an ubuntu question, then please stop clogging the channel with pointless statements.21:59
bokrass(inredible this place is by far the most animated chan )21:59
SlownLTS version21:59
* stefg chuckles at nicomachus' comment... Not everything declared 'stable' by canonical is so in real life... but that's a different story21:59
Slownexists or not ?21:59
nicomachusstefg: you don't think Unity or xfce are stable....?21:59
sintreyou can still upgrade lts , plus if you want go on to upgrade from there to newest idf you want21:59
* deco_ nico ill run ubuntu past ghost.. sits back21:59
Slownwho said that ?22:00
Slownstefg did you said that both of them aren't stable22:00
akik\9_: is that the problem when you try to install kde when you originally installed unity ?22:00
\9_akik: yes22:00
nicomachusSlown: they are stable. He's wrong.22:00
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Slownso If I take the lts version22:01
Slownand when you compare that to the debian current stable22:01
Slownwhy the lts is more bleed edge22:01
Slowneven with the lts stuff22:01
\9because ubuntu is not debian22:01
Slowndid you notice that fox ?22:01
nicomachusSlown: Ubuntu is not going to be bleeding edge.22:01
SlownI mean more recent22:02
Slownthat debian22:02
SlownI'm not talking about bleeding edge22:02
nicomachusyes, probably.22:02
* deco_ mandriva!?22:02
deco_heh22:02
Slown\9 you agree on that ?22:02
Slownplease argue my friend22:02
jpmhusing lubuntu 14.4 - SOMETIMES when using LXTerminal with a bash shell, I am having issues with the set -o vi, which I have set in my profile.  The "editing" seems to have the cursor in the wrong place.  ANy ideas?22:02
nicomachusSlown: this is really a discussion for ##linux. You can come back here after you have Ubuntu installed.22:02
\9i don't understand what i'm supposed to argue about22:03
Slownyeah the guys on ##linux think that I'm trolling22:03
nicomachushe wants us to pick his setup for him, and that's not on-topic for this channel.22:03
Slownthey said why are you trolling dude22:03
tgm4883nicomachus: apparently we allow this chat now...22:03
Slownwe are going to kick your ass22:03
SlownI was pretty scared22:03
SlownI have to said that22:03
tgm4883Slown: what are you trying to do22:04
nicomachustgm4883: until an op tells me that, I'll keep shoving people out that are off-topic. :)22:04
knittelit refuses to work, always an error code22:04
tgm4883nicomachus: ask Pici22:04
stefgOk... to clear the confusion: All *released* versions of ubuntu are declared 'stable'. But experience shows that the ubuntu release quality is somewhat questionable given the little manpower and fixed release dates of new versions. In general it's always best to wait for the ".1" versions of any piece of software  if you are interested in stability22:04
stefg... not only for ubuntu22:04
Slowntgm4883, I'm just talking man22:04
tgm4883stefg: that's always been the case for everything, it's not limited to software development22:04
stefgright22:05
tgm4883Slown: then maybe you want #ubuntu-discuss22:05
bokrass...so any idea ?22:05
OerHeksstefg, proffesionally yes, you should wait for the point release, lts upgrade does that in ubuntu.22:05
Slownso what do we have22:06
nicomachusSlown: install whatever you think is best. We can't make that decision for you.22:06
SlownI know that22:07
SlownI'm just asking22:07
knittelhey, i have 16.0422:07
tgm4883Slown: please take this to #ubuntu-discuss22:07
knitteli still need to upgrade?22:07
Slownguys please follow me on #ubuntu-discuss22:07
OverCoderHello everyone22:08
Slownfree candy for you22:08
SlownxD22:08
OverCoderI'm building a package for my PPA22:08
OverCoderhttps://launchpad.net/~overcoder/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat22:08
stefgknittel: actually that's 16.04.1 after a dist-upgrade (so it comes in automatically)22:08
OverCoderThe problem is that I uploaded a malformed upstream tarball accientally22:08
OverCoderNow, I've put the right upstream, I dumped the version in the changelog, built and uplaoded22:08
OverCoderIt's refusing to build22:08
OverCoderFile hexchat_2.12.4.orig.tar.xz already exists in HexChat, but uploaded version has different contents.22:09
Slownubuntu budgie is it official guys ?22:09
SlownI really like the DE22:09
OverCoderThe troubleshooting page only suggests using the old tarball22:09
tgm4883Slown: please take this to #ubuntu-discuss22:09
Slownok22:09
\9knittel: 16.04 is the current lts so you'll be fine for the next 5 years22:09
OerHeksapt update & apt upgrade yes22:10
nicomachusapt full-upgrade* :D22:10
knittelDes erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :22:10
knittel /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb22:10
knittel /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop_4%3a5.6.5-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_i386.deb22:10
knittelE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)22:10
knittelthis i always get22:11
knittelit doesnt install simply22:11
knittelalso with -f22:11
felix__hola una chica para privado22:11
nicomachus!es | felix__22:11
ubottufelix__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:11
knittelwe donbt talk girls in here :)22:11
nicomachusknittel: try sudo dpkg -a --configure22:11
knittelor ubuntu is a chick?22:11
OerHeksknittel, you are linked to a bugreport22:12
nicomachusoh, right, that22:12
knittelso far i'm not nico22:12
nicomachusyou're not what?22:12
knittelyou can give the complete commandline please?22:12
OerHeksand ppa´s  are hard to support, perhaps #kubuntu knows the fix22:12
bokrassok thanks anyway ... :/22:13
knittelkk, busy22:13
knittellets see what happens22:14
knitteleverything stays unconfigured22:14
knittelerror in "configure" :)22:15
knittelgrrr22:15
* deco_ migrate to irssi22:15
ad0ucbotkraf?22:15
guest1110101hello?22:17
guest1110101good this place is working again..22:17
stefgknittel: 'dpkg --configure -a' ?22:17
knittelDes erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :22:17
knittel kde-telepathy-minimal22:17
knittel kubuntu-desktop22:17
knittel kde-telepathy22:17
knitteli go to restart but i'm afraid it doesnt work (yet)22:17
guest1110101I'm experiencing am Issues with additional drivers hanging on applying changes.. I found a post that helped me locate the process I'd but that didn't help me do anything but reset things back to previously saved changes..what can I do about this?22:19
guest1110101when I located the process ID and killed it, I had to repeat the process of trying to switch drivers in software and updates..22:20
guest1110101this is my second try mind you.. first time I had to reinstall OS22:20
nicomachusguest1110101: which driver are you trying to install?22:21
Slowngoodbye22:21
guest11101012nd time to change the driver I reset and it managed to change without corrupting my entire os..22:21
stefgguest1110101: we need more context22:21
guest1110101hmm I realized that I wanted the open source Nvidia driver.. not the proprietary22:21
guest1110101hold on..22:21
guest1110101lol chill22:21
knittel_ell tx anyway22:22
knittel_"well"22:22
nicomachusguest1110101: can you do it from terminal?22:22
guest1110101last time I tried I had poor lick.. killing it from the terminal worked though22:22
nicomachusthat would give a more verbose output and give a better idea of the actual error.22:22
guest1110101I'm going to try and change the WiFi to on as well and get it to .. I'm on my phone.. that's a no go unless I can figure out how to configure this on my oc22:23
guest11101010c22:23
guest1110101p22:23
guest1110101c22:23
guest1110101so.. wifi processor and graphics..22:24
knittel_?? i'm still here :)22:24
guest1110101it's hanging though22:24
stefgguest1110101: http://askubuntu.com/questions/12937/remove-nvidia-driver-and-go-back-to-nouveau22:24
guest1110101yeah go ahead knittel22:24
OerHeksguest1110101, what happens is that there is a big building process going on, please have 5 minutes patience, depending on machine specs22:25
guest1110101I've had poor luck with irc..forums.. everywhere.. everything I have I had to t8nker22:25
guest1110101tinkwr22:25
guest1110101fudge22:25
OerHeksso hanging, does caps shift work? then it is oke22:25
dportonu all lie to me oo noo wait what yes lol could it be ...?22:25
guest1110101dpnorton..what are you talking about..22:26
guest1110101if you require help please post in a way that someone can help you22:26
Sean_McGevening folks22:26
dportonevening22:26
dportonmay the moon shine bright22:27
guest1110101I've helped before so if you rephrase I might be able to help you where others havent22:27
guest1110101I think I'm going to switch to Debian though.. ugh22:27
dportonguest1110101: it needs no rephrasing its a txt comix22:27
dporton:)22:27
dportonand ubuntu is nice22:27
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Sean_McGugh, Debian is stale out-of-the-box though22:28
dportonyush22:28
dportonbetter use ubuntu its good22:29
guest1110101this is a ubuntu irc.. of course that's what one might say.22:29
dportonI used debian22:29
dportonfedora22:29
dportonand mac server :D22:29
guest1110101red hat?22:29
guest1110101eh..22:29
dportonlong time ago22:29
dportonalso some IBM OS lol22:29
guest1110101I use what works.. I don't care what it is..22:29
dportonubuntu is nice22:29
Sean_McGI used RH back before Fedora even existed22:30
guest1110101I've used all or most22:30
sintrepuppy linux for the win!22:30
krytarik!ot22:30
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:30
guest1110101that's why this trivial issue is aggravating.. I'll trouble shoot myself like always.. thanks for trying I guess22:30
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* deco_ outie22:36
gambl0rehow long does it take for disk analyzer usage to complete22:39
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Jordan_Ugambl0re: That depends on how many files you have and how fast your drive is. As a not-very-educated guess I'd say about 10 minutes for a "normal" root filesystem. Why do you ask?22:42
gambl0recause its taking forever22:43
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BeautifulBashHow come my mouse wont grab in games properly? Im on the latest Gnome in Ubuntu. The only thing that works ingame is my track point22:47
BeautifulBashand even then, thats limited to the bounds of the game window, the cursor wont stay in the center22:47
Jordan_UBeautifulBash: What release of Ubuntu are you using?22:54
BeautifulBashJordan_U, Ubuntu Gnome 16.1022:55
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BeautifulBashits really odd, because the trackpoint works, but restircted by the bounds of the 3d window22:57
Jordan_UBeautifulBash: Please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:05
BeautifulBashJordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23621168/23:07
BeautifulBash cheers!23:07
Jordan_UBeautifulBash: Looks like you have a touchpad. You're saying that the cursor stays within the bounds of the game window when using the trackpoint, but not when using the touchpad? What about when using an external mouse?23:12
BeautifulBashJordan_U, kinda, the touchpad works for a few cm of movement then abruptly stops, the trackpoint moves around fluidly but is restricted the the windows bounds. Il just test a mouse. Thanks!23:13
Jordan_UBeautifulBash: You're welcome. Whatever you do find please file a bug report about this.23:14
BeautifulBashJordan_U, Sounds like a plan! Just plugged in a mouse and it works fine. Now the trackpoint stays grabbed within the window and functions as it should, but the touchpad doesnt work at all. I think my bets bet may be a bug report then23:17
sintrecan you boot a live cd and see if that works23:18
sintremaybe a package downloaded or something caused settings to be changed23:18
BeautifulBashsintre, yeah when I've showered il give it a whirl and report back23:20
The1whoEATSis there a guide somewhere on doing full disk encryption install alongside windows?23:36
sintrehttps://scarygliders.net/2011/12/06/how-to-install-and-multi-boot-between-windows-and-debian-testing-with-full-disk-encryption/23:38
sintreuse google many more guides, i'd read thru many before atemmpting23:39
rizonzoeh Ubuntu 15.10 has been a real pain on aplce where the sun never shines23:42
FrozenlockDid Ubuntu 16 change how the maximum number files is handled? It's as if my /etc/security/limits.conf isn't taken into account.23:42
FrozenlockI get the "too many open files" error :(23:43
DeunomeIs anyone here farmiliar with Apache?23:57
Deunomefamiliar*23:57
krytarikDeunome: Try #httpd.23:59
DeunomeThanks krytarik23:59

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