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hikikoHi05:59
pittiBonjour tout le monde !07:43
pittiaujourd'hui est mon dernier jour .. :-/07:43
didrocksbonjour pitti :)08:03
pittibonjour didrocks, ça va ?08:03
didrockspitti: ça va, et toi ? :)08:03
pittididrocks: je vais bien, merci ! mais, il fait trop froid ici, je prefere Sevilla :)08:04
didrockspitti: ahah, ici aussi, il fait froid :)08:06
seb128good morning desktopers08:31
* seb128 raises a stuck of stollen to pitti08:31
pittibonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ? merci pour le stollen !08:31
seb128pitti, hope we still see you around IRC sometime, I'm going to miss working with you08:31
seb128pitti, ça va bien, un peu triste que tu partes :-(08:31
pittiseb128: on a mangé du stollen la dernière semaine à Sevilla, avec l'équipe de nuage entier :)08:32
seb128pitti, et toi ça va ? tu vas faire quoi de tes vacances ?08:32
seb128le stollen c'est pour quand il fait froid ! ;-)08:32
pittiseb128: oui, je vais rester dans #ubuntu-devel, mais je parts tout les autres chaînes08:33
seb128même #ubuntu-desktop? :-(08:33
seb128it's #friendly-chitchat-desktop mostly ;-)08:33
pittije crois je reste ici aussi -- il n'y a pas de travil ici, donc ça marche bien !08:34
pitti(pas te travail *pour moi* :) )08:34
pittimais, pendant les vacances je quitte IRC complètement08:34
seb128:-)08:35
seb128tu fais bien08:35
pittiseb128: on va aller à Dresden mercredi prochaine08:35
pittijusque-là j'ai quelques choses à faire chez nous08:35
pittiet vendredi est l'anniversaire d'Annett08:36
seb128pitti, oh, tu lui diras joyeux anniversaire de ma part donc ! et profites bien de tes vacances ;-)08:39
pittimerci !08:39
willcookemorning all09:02
Laneymoin09:03
pittihey willcooke, hello Laney!09:03
Laneyhey pitti09:03
Laneytoday is the day, eh?09:03
pittiLaney: yeah -- the day of cleaning my home dirs on Canonical machines, wrap up some fixes, unsubscribe from stuff, and shed a tear09:04
pittifeels odd09:04
* Laney hugs pitti 09:04
LaneyYou finally found the exit ;-)09:04
* pitti hugs Laney back09:04
* desrt wonders about which toys to bring09:07
seb128hey willcooke Laney desrt09:09
desrthi seb :)09:09
davmor2desrt: like you have to ask bring them all :D09:11
davmor2Morning all09:11
pittihey hey desrt09:11
pittigood morning davmor209:11
desrtgood morning everyone :D09:11
desrtpitti: back home?09:11
pittidesrt: yes, all went fine, last week was great09:12
Laneyhi desrt hi davmor2 hi seb128 HI HI HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII09:12
pittidesrt: last day today!09:12
Laneyit's my last day too09:12
seb128Laney, how are you? ready for holidays?09:12
Laneyjust of the year though09:12
desrtwoot.09:12
desrti wonder when my last day is :D09:12
seb128I had a look to the hr calendar earlier09:12
Laneyhi willcooke too09:12
seb128good number of people starting being off on thursday09:12
Laneythis bring all your toys thing09:12
LaneyI took my pog collection to school on the last day once09:13
Laneyand some little SHIT09:13
desrtLaney: ya.. i'm a bit scared..09:13
Laneysmacked them all off the table09:13
Laneythey went EVERYWHERE09:13
Laneyand I never got them all back09:13
desrtpogs!!09:13
Laneyhad some nice slammers too09:13
Laneyit was a good collection09:13
davmor2Laney: so close but dude it's christmas time now and you have to get into that, so it HI HOOOOO, HI HOOOOOOOOO and off to work we gooooooooooo! ;)09:13
flexiondotorgMorning davmor2 Laney desrt pitti willcooke hikiko seb12809:15
* pitti finds https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/+me/+packagebugs , really handy09:15
davmor2pitti: why would you package bugs that's just evil ;)09:16
pittidavmor2: how else would we ship our bugs to users?09:16
hikikohi flexiondotorg davmor2 pitti desrt Laney willcooke seb128 et al09:17
flexiondotorgo/09:17
seb128hey hikiko, how are you?09:17
seb128hey flexiondotorg09:17
desrtoh.  al is here!09:17
desrthaven't seen him in a while09:17
hikiko:P09:17
hikikohi seb128 :) I am good you?09:18
seb128hikiko, I'm good thanks!09:18
hikikotomorrow tomorrow tomorrow... is holidays... /me can't wait09:20
pittiso today is the day when we upload something really broken, right?09:20
desrtpitti: new systemd!  you can make it happen...09:22
desrtit's a good time for it.  nobody really needs their computers until like.. jan 2, anyway09:22
pittidesrt: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd/+packages has a recent build from master09:22
pittibut unfortunately that effing CI prevents us from uploading or landing anything that breaks booting now :(09:22
pittibut breaking networking should be fun enough :)09:22
desrtoo.  jan 2 is a canadian holiday.  nice :D09:23
desrtpitti: lol.  noob problems.09:24
desrtan expert would just upload a new "improved, more permissive" CI framework before uploading the new systemd :)09:24
pittidesrt: OTOH, who could have seen this little typo in debian/sysstemd.install which made the package end up emtpy..09:24
Laneyyou just call things 'flaky' and disable them09:25
Laneyit's like when you turn the sirens on and all the traffic signals go green09:25
pittired is the new green!09:25
desrtemergency upload!  someone might be dying!!09:25
pittiLaney: "Generate Testsuite-Recommends"? ITYM "Testsuite-Restrictions"? thanks for working on this!09:56
pittiLaney: not sure if it can be fit into Testsuite: somehow, like 'Testsuite: autopkgtest (isolation-machine)'09:57
Laneyyes09:58
LaneyI'd rather have it as easy as possible09:58
Laneysee what feedback the patch gets09:58
Laneyseb128: can you reject the 2 old dbus on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= please?10:10
* Laney just combined them10:10
seb128Laney, done10:11
Laneymerci10:11
* Laney grumbles10:13
Laney"sorry, we had to log you out" from some app10:13
Laneynow I get to copy something like j)lEsg>S6u}m@+}DDkjF9|kPh^UgiZ72 from my screen10:13
seb128k, pushed those snap desktop launcher changed for reviews10:35
seb128let's have lunch, I started early and I'm hungry ;-)10:35
seb128bbl10:35
andyrockmorning11:46
seb128hey andyrock, how are you?12:39
andyrockhey seb128 fine but I fotgot the yubikey at home12:40
seb128that sucks12:40
Laneyhey andyrock12:40
tkamppeterpitti, still there?12:40
Laneyget some backup codes for your wallet12:40
pittihello tkamppeter (was out for lunch)13:09
tkamppeterpitti, thanks also for the help on the systemd problem in the last days.13:16
pittitkamppeter: thanks for your kind email13:16
pittitkamppeter: right, I didn't drill down further on that one during the sprint, but this shouldn't be too hard I hope; xnox should be able to look into it, and you can ask in #debian-systemd on OFTC too13:16
pittiseems like this is somewhere between maintainer scripts and that .path unit messing up upgrades13:17
xnoxpitti, tkamppeter: is there a bug number? or email?13:17
pittibug 164296613:17
ubot5`bug 1642966 in systemd (Ubuntu) "package cups-daemon 2.1.3-4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164296613:17
pittitkamppeter: seems that upstream report wasn't very fruitful -- but I've never got cups to *not* start automatically at boot, as the first thing it does is to write that stamp file and it never removes it again13:18
pitti(even in a clean and minimal cloud image)13:18
tkamppeterpitti, it should remove the stamp file if you deactivate the web interface vis cupsd.conf, do not share printers, and do not have remaining active jobs.13:19
pittiah13:19
tkamppeterpitti, cancel your print jobs which had remained after you have given away your Samsung laser.13:20
pittitkamppeter: heh; it's not that -- as I said, happens in a clean and fresh VM, probably becasue we enable the web UI by default13:20
pitti... which really ought to be handled through a .socket unit13:21
tkamppeterpitti, will servers with the Cockpit interface also have print functionality?13:23
pittitkamppeter: I'm not sure if you can configure printers there, but as cups already has a web UI I guess it's not the most important feature to duplicate it13:24
tkamppeterpitti, perhaps only some switches for cups-browsed, to tell whether to auto-create queues for certain printers.13:26
tkamppeterpitti, with the new IPP Everywhere printers (and also the already existing AirPrint printers) printing can get doen administration-less, no drivers and fully automatic queue setup on both USB and network.13:27
Laneythey're automating tkamppeter out of a job!13:28
tkamppeterLaney, not really, I am doing the infrastructure for that.13:32
pitti"a" job, not "your" job :)13:32
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tkamppeterpitti, thank you very much for all this nice stuff and have a great new job!13:43
pittitkamppeter: thanks! all the best to you too!13:55
czajkowskipitti: you're leaving :o just saw the deactivation email on lp :(14:00
pitticzajkowski: wow, reading LP mails more thoroughly than warthogs :)14:00
czajkowskipitti: well I dont get warthogs mails so I have to keep up to date some way :)14:03
czajkowskibest of luck on your new adventure!14:03
pitticzajkowski: thanks!14:03
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/~not-canonical awaits14:04
pittiformally I need to wait until Jan :)14:05
didrockspitti on phoronix! https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Martin-Pitt-Leaves-Canonical14:35
pittiOMG14:35
didrockstime to add a comment :-)14:35
didrocks"THIS guy, he wrote the crash report system, we will live a pleasant crash without knowing our crashes otherwise" :-)14:36
didrocksall your fault! :p14:36
pittiaside from the "kernel work" the article is surprisingly correct :)14:36
didrocksyeah ;)14:36
willcooke:)14:36
* pitti has a whopping TWO patches in the kernel, that doesn't qualify :)14:36
didrocksone is enough, you get the tatoo then14:36
=== hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko
* didrocks hugs pitti, we are really going to miss you14:38
* pitti hugs back didrocks and the desktop team!14:38
* Laney wibbles14:41
tjaaltonpitti: thanks for everything, and have fun at your next job!14:43
pittitjaalton: thanks! likewise, all the best to you!14:44
seb128Ubuntu without pitti is not going to be the same :-/14:49
dobeyindeed14:52
qengho:(14:56
Sweet5harkwhat the going rate of the cockpit team at RH? if we in desktop all throw in a few bugs we should be able to buy them back in bulk.15:14
* willcooke rings the last bell of the year15:29
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Christmas Meeting 2016-12-1315:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Dec 13 15:30:01 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:30
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willcookeRoll call: Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong (hols), flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)15:30
Sweet5harkmoin15:30
andyrockhey15:30
happyaronhey15:30
hikikohello15:30
Laneyarghghg15:31
LaneyHI15:31
flexiondotorgo/15:31
seb128hey15:31
qenghoAieee!15:31
Trevinhoehyo!15:32
willcookelet's beging15:34
willcooke#topic andyrock15:34
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andyrock#1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/164816815:34
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1648168 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Launcher quicklists are blurry" [High,Triaged]15:34
andyrock#2 still working on the windows list for u8 ql15:34
andyrock#3 A couple of reviews15:34
andyrock#eof15:34
willcookethanks andyrock15:35
willcookesorry, side conversation15:35
willcooke#topic attente15:35
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attentehi15:36
attentefollowed up on RT for snapcraft jhbuild plugin, fixed proxy problem to get the integration test working on github c-i15:36
attenterevisions to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775732, needs review15:36
ubot5`Gnome bug 775732 in Backend: Mir "mir: clipboard support missing" [Normal,New]15:36
attenteSRU for bubblewrap in xenial, need a sponsor15:36
attenteneed to profile gtk-mir to debug menu flickering15:36
attente(eof)15:36
willcookethanks attente15:37
willcooke#topic desrt15:37
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desrtdconf proxy: created a new interface on the proxy as the first point of contact for clients, to answer the basic questions of "where do i talk to now?".  this deduplicates a lot of the confinement logic in terms of "what paths should this client be using?"15:37
desrtalso started working on forwarding write requests (subject to security policy) to the service15:37
desrtstill waiting to hear about apparmor15:37
desrteof15:37
willcookethanks desrt15:37
willcooke#topic dgadomski15:37
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dgadomskihey15:37
dgadomski* found the cause of bug #1550983 - seems to be Debian/Ubuntu specific and related to gl disabled in cairo some time ago. Described it in a debian bug #847366.15:37
ubot5`bug 1550983 in One Hundred Papercuts "Fails to start with "Couldn't open libGL.so.1" (missing dependency?)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155098315:37
ubot5`Debian bug 847366 in libgtk-3-0 "gtk apps die with 'Couldn't open libGL.so.1'" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/84736615:37
dgadomskieof15:37
willcookethanks dgadomski15:38
willcooke#topic flexiondotorg15:38
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dgadomskithank you15:38
flexiondotorgTime appropriate greetings!15:38
flexiondotorg· Researched this weeks candidates for the Snap Upstream Blitz and update Trello15:38
flexiondotorg· Ran some Python snap build testing on Launchpad to assist _cjwatson and confirm LP: #1642281 is fixed, which it is.15:38
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1642281 in launchpad-buildd "Unable to build python based snap on Launchpad" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164228115:38
flexiondotorg· Orientation for Patch Piloting with _dholbach15:38
flexiondotorg· Lots of snap out reach. Direct contact with Lightworks, JetBrains Suite, Unity 3D Editor, electron-builder, sshguard, Nuvola Player, MakeMKV, Handbrake, Black Magic, Mail-in-a-box and several others.15:38
flexiondotorg· Provided snapcraft assistance to several upstreams and ISVs.15:38
flexiondotorg· Returned to GTK theme improvements I was working.15:38
flexiondotorg🎬15:38
willcookethanks flexiondotorg15:39
willcooke#topic happyaron15:39
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happyaron1. ibus 1.5.14 and merge15:39
happyaron2. ibus friends updates15:39
happyaron3. netcat-openbsd 1.130-115:39
happyaron4. nm-applet 1.4.2 review15:39
happyaron5. bugs in xenial version of nm-applet15:39
happyaron6. still looking for sponsorship for nm/1.2.4 SRU15:39
happyaron(eof)15:39
seb128happyaron, where did you look for sponsoring?15:39
seb128is your update in the sponsoring queue?15:40
happyaronseb128: not yet, was ready last week and pinged pitt_i but he might lost the ping15:41
happyaronshall I go for sponsoring queue then?15:41
seb128yes please15:41
seb128should have started there ;-)15:41
happyaronokay15:41
seb128you might want to try to ping people in case nobody picks it up15:42
seb128but it never hurts to have it in the queue15:42
happyaronI see15:42
willcookethanks happyaron, seb12815:42
willcooke#topic hikiko15:42
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hikikohi15:42
hikikohi,15:42
hikikofixed the remaining low gfx parts (reviewed-approved)15:42
hikikoapart from the last compiz/ucc/u7 branches that are15:42
hikikoin progress and I'm trying to finish today before I15:42
hikikoleave for holidays (I think I am getting close to that) EOF15:42
willcookegood stuff, thanks hikiko15:43
willcooke#topic Laney15:43
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Laneymeow15:43
Laneyoff from today15:43
Laneyforgot to write that in the following awesome bullets15:43
Laney• Got the transition(s) of hell out of the way after running 9999 tests locally, fixing stuff, skipping others and abusing the hint tester15:43
Laney• Broke and fixed the autopkgtest queues /o\15:43
Laney• Fixed broken adwaita-icon-theme release (just pushed upstream too) & uploaded that15:43
Laney• Some random -proposed fixes15:43
Laney• appstream: Killed off old generator, returned 1000G of space to IS as we no longer need a full mirror15:43
Laney• autopkgtest: Initial investigations around running all tests in lxd; sent a patch to dpkg @ debian to expose the restrictions in .dsc files, started looking at autopkgtest-cloud to see where that needs changes (at least userdata and the lxd worker config, will need more depending on how we do the dispatch)15:43
Laney• Cried about pitti going :(15:43
Laney• Did some light sponsoring15:43
Laney😢15:43
willcookethanks Laney15:44
willcookehugs all round15:44
willcooke#topic qengho15:44
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qenghoJust one thing took all my time.15:44
qengho* Got chromium 55 building without crashes. Not scientifically. Using g++4.8 only.15:44
qenghoThat will fix the complaints with Y and Z versions and Symantec-issued TLS certificates.15:44
qenghoI'll spend December days finding out why Debian's works, other than that they don't care about ARMHF or ARM64.15:44
qenghoEOF15:44
willcookethanks qengho15:44
willcooke#topic seb12815:44
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seb128• spent quite some time in launchpad triaging bugs, debugging/upstreaming some15:45
seb128• some archive admin work (NEW reviews)15:45
seb128• snappy gtk/gnome runtime work15:45
seb128∘ got a working version of the runtime snap, discussed it with Didier and iterated a bit over it15:45
seb128∘ got a gtk3-demo example using it which is working as well, did some iterations over it as well15:45
seb128∘ worked on the gtk launcher changes needed for the runtime, first part landed and being iterating on the remaining work with Didier15:45
seb128∘ spent some time trying to workaround snapcraft trying to be clever and bundling the libraries used by your binaries (which defeats the purpose of the content sharing) without luck15:45
seb128∘ started a mailing list discussion about previous item but got feedback only from others having the issue, no reply/interest from the snapcraft team15:45
seb128</week>15:45
willcookethanks seb12815:45
willcooke#topic Sweet5hark15:45
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Sweet5hark- some writer refactoring15:45
Sweet5hark- locally reproducing snap build fail15:45
Sweet5hark=> curiously, my local snapcraft build break in a different way (earlier) as on launchpad, so worked around that for now -- still thats bad15:45
Sweet5hark=> also see a bazillion deprecation warnings from snapcraft. I somehow find it worrisome that there is more babysitting needed for snapcraft changes than for the (huge) LibreOffice upstream over the same time15:45
Sweet5hark- some contract check work, some budgeting, some mentoring on the build system15:45
Sweet5harkEOF15:45
willcookethanks Sweet5hark15:46
willcookeplease raise your concerns with the snapcraft guys, we need them to hear it15:47
willcooke#topic TheMuso15:47
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willcookePlease let me have your update via email TheMuso15:47
willcooke#topic tkamppeter15:47
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tkamppeter- cups-filters: Released 1.13.0 which allows setting up driverless printers with the CUPS web interface or with system-config-printer and drops urftopdf as rastertopdf also understands Apple Raster now.15:47
tkamppeter- ippusbxd: Tested driverless (IPP Everywhere, AirPrint) printing on USB, via IPP-over-USB. Improvements on stability and robustness of ippusbxd, especiallly when it gets hammered by web browsers when accessing the printer's web admin interface (admin interface works only with Firefox but at least does not lock up or crash ippusbxd when using Chromium).15:47
tkamppeter- Driverless printing: More testing with Aveek Basu. A Lexmark PDF printer does the job perfectly.15:47
tkamppeter- Canonical: Said good-bye to pitti. It's a pity that pitti leaves.15:47
tkamppeter- Bugs.15:47
willcookethanks tkamppeter15:48
willcooke#topic Trevinho15:48
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pittihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t99KH0TR-J4 :)15:48
Trevinho· Short week (8th was NH and Monday out)15:48
Trevinho· Few more fixes to snapcraft parser to support multiple origin parameters15:48
Trevinho· Unity8 pointer mode indicators work15:48
Trevinho· Not really desktop related, but still... Added Time based OTP mode support to canonical identity provider (login.ubuntu.com)15:48
tkamppeterCurrently, I make ippusbxd broadcasting via Bonjour, so that cups-browsed does the auto-setup of the queus.15:48
TrevinhoEOF15:48
willcookethanks Trevinho15:48
willcookesorry tkamppeter, I cut you off too soon15:49
willcooke#topic tkamppeter15:49
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tkamppeterCurrently, I make ippusbxd broadcasting via Bonjour, so that cups-browsed does the auto-setup of the queus.15:50
willcookethx tkamppeter15:51
willcooke#topic robert_ancell15:51
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willcooke- LightDM 1.21.2, 1.21.3 released15:51
willcooke- lightdm snap work15:51
willcooke- simple-scan 3.23.3 released15:51
willcooke#topic So Long pitti15:51
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willcooke:(15:51
* pitti takes a bow, it's been an incredible ride; I'll miss working with you guys!15:51
willcookeThanks for everything you've done for the desktop pitti15:51
willcookeWe made you this cake15:51
willcooke<cake emoji>15:51
pittiyummy, with ice cream on top!15:52
* seb128 hugs pitti15:52
* Sweet5hark grumbles as usual, but joins the hub.15:52
Sweet5harkhug15:52
willcookeLet's carry on the party after the meeting then...15:53
willcooke#endmeeting15:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Dec 13 15:53:06 2016 UTC.15:53
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-12-13-15.30.moin.txt15:53
willcookethanks all15:53
seb128it's fine, pitti is used to change team every few years, he comes back on next rotation :p15:53
pittiwillcooke: I got a proper send-off from my foundations colleagues last week15:53
pittimy liver filed a restraining order15:53
willcooke:D15:53
Sweet5harkpitti: common you never really left desktop15:53
Sweet5hark;)15:53
pittiand I'll stay in the channel (except during holidays)15:54
* Sweet5hark is still in denial it seems.15:54
seb128we should start a petition for the universe to send us pitti back :p15:54
pittiI'll respond to hugs and ignore pings about actual work :)15:54
pittiironically my first task at RH is to *drumroll*15:55
pitti... package cockpit for Debian and Ubuntu :)15:55
seb128lol15:55
willcookeSNAP!15:55
pittino, only the real packaging format15:55
Laneyhaha15:56
Laneythe chains are off15:56
willcookelol15:56
Sweet5harkhrhr15:56
pittiI created the world's first-ever snap (ROS tutorial), that must be enough :)15:56
Laneyhe means curl | bash15:56
pittiLaney: well, I thought *that* was snap :)15:57
Sweet5harkLaney: hey, lets stay all POSIXy and just do curl|sh!15:58
pittiTTFN -- time to start the EOY holidays, IRC-less; I wish you all some nice resting and time with your family, see you back in January!16:18
Laneybye pitti!16:18
Laneyfroehe weihnachten!16:19
Laneyenjoy learning some new ropes16:19
seb128indeed!16:19
pittibetween JavaScript (yay) and rpm (argh) :)16:19
Laneyfrohe*16:20
Laney(?)16:20
pittiLaney: yes, "frohe"16:20
seb128k, on that note calling it a day a bit earlier, yeah for starting at 7am ;-)16:42
seb128with the gtk launcher working good way to wrap, thanks didrocks ;-)16:42
seb128have a nice evening desktopers, see you tomorrow16:42
Laneynice16:43
Laneybye seb128!16:43
Laneyhappy christmas ; -)16:43
seb128Laney, enjoy your holidays!16:43
seb128you too16:43
willcookesee ya seb12816:43
TrevinhoLaney: oh, happy xmas holidays!16:43
Laneyhey Trevinho16:43
Laneythanks16:43
Trevinho:-)16:43
Laneyneed to do shopping :(16:43
* Trevinho doesn't envy you16:43
didrocksyw ;)16:45
didrockssee you Laney, happy holidays! :)16:45
* Laney isn't going16:45
didrocksLaney: I'm going soon, so using that opportunity (don't want to miss it ;))16:45
Laneyohhhh16:45
Laneybye then didrocks16:45
* didrocks hugs Laney, drink responsibly! :)16:46
didrocks(or not)16:46
* Laney is having a few days off after sunday night ...16:46
didrocksheh! when are you back?16:46
Laneylike the 3rd or whatever it is16:47
Laneywe're going for a weekend in brighton on friday16:49
Laneythen visiting family from xmas eve-ish16:49
didrocksnice! still in the same area?16:49
Laneynah16:49
Laneywill come back to nottingham in between16:49
didrocksoh ok :)16:50
didrockswe are not really going to move and only stay at home, for obvious reasons :)16:50
Laneylast weeks of calm16:51
didrocksyep :)16:52
didrockscounting them :p16:52
didrockszomg so few!16:55
Laneyheh16:55
didrocks(yes, I'm counting very slowly :p)16:56
* Laney hugs didrocks 16:56
Laneyexcited for you!16:56
* didrocks hugs Laney back, thanks! :)16:56
Laneyah man16:57
Laneymight buy a christmas tree tomorrow16:57
didrocksyou have some lights and decorations?16:58
xnoxbregma, please add me to https://launchpad.net/~unity8-desktop-session-team/+members or please approve https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/unity8-desktop-session/upstart-dep/+merge/313157 to prevent breaking unity8 desktop session in zesty whilst everything else is dropping explicit upstart dependency and seeds.16:58
xnoxbregma, the package execs upstart, and should depend on upstart, until i make merge proposal to exec systemd =)16:59
* Laney enjoys the upstart-dropping spree16:59
xnoxyeah. there are still a few units to write, and port the session starting scripts.17:00
xnoxbut i would like to avoid pre-mature breakage of thing, as stuff is landing a bit async.17:00
Laneyis all the random phone stuff done?17:01
xnoxLaney, no, but i now have M10 tablet in possetion to quickly port them, and validate they are worky17:02
Laneylucky you!17:02
xnoxLaney, e.g. ported and tested that customization hooks are now systemdified17:02
xnoxLaney, i went into the office for secret santa. got an M10 table by sweet talking ondra17:02
Laneyxnox: you old charmer17:06
czajkowskifirst pitti then dholbach today is not a good day people :(17:43
Laneyczajkowski: Maybe we can reverse the trend if you'll come back :-)17:44
czajkowskiLaney: one of me vs those two rock stars I don't think will cut it !17:46
flexiondotorgNight desktopers17:51
Laneyright homies18:00
Laneyhappy hols, see you on the other side18:01
hikikohappy holidays Laney18:01
willcookenight all18:56

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