[05:59] <hikiko> Hi
[07:43] <pitti> Bonjour tout le monde !
[07:43] <pitti> aujourd'hui est mon dernier jour .. :-/
[08:03] <didrocks> bonjour pitti :)
[08:03] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va ?
[08:03] <didrocks> pitti: ça va, et toi ? :)
[08:04] <pitti> didrocks: je vais bien, merci ! mais, il fait trop froid ici, je prefere Sevilla :)
[08:06] <didrocks> pitti: ahah, ici aussi, il fait froid :)
[08:31] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:31]  * seb128 raises a stuck of stollen to pitti
[08:31] <pitti> bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ? merci pour le stollen !
[08:31] <seb128> pitti, hope we still see you around IRC sometime, I'm going to miss working with you
[08:31] <seb128> pitti, ça va bien, un peu triste que tu partes :-(
[08:32] <pitti> seb128: on a mangé du stollen la dernière semaine à Sevilla, avec l'équipe de nuage entier :)
[08:32] <seb128> pitti, et toi ça va ? tu vas faire quoi de tes vacances ?
[08:32] <seb128> le stollen c'est pour quand il fait froid ! ;-)
[08:33] <pitti> seb128: oui, je vais rester dans #ubuntu-devel, mais je parts tout les autres chaînes
[08:33] <seb128> même #ubuntu-desktop? :-(
[08:33] <seb128> it's #friendly-chitchat-desktop mostly ;-)
[08:34] <pitti> je crois je reste ici aussi -- il n'y a pas de travil ici, donc ça marche bien !
[08:34] <pitti> (pas te travail *pour moi* :) )
[08:34] <pitti> mais, pendant les vacances je quitte IRC complètement
[08:35] <seb128> :-)
[08:35] <seb128> tu fais bien
[08:35] <pitti> seb128: on va aller à Dresden mercredi prochaine
[08:35] <pitti> jusque-là j'ai quelques choses à faire chez nous
[08:36] <pitti> et vendredi est l'anniversaire d'Annett
[08:39] <seb128> pitti, oh, tu lui diras joyeux anniversaire de ma part donc ! et profites bien de tes vacances ;-)
[08:39] <pitti> merci !
[09:02] <willcooke> morning all
[09:03] <Laney> moin
[09:03] <pitti> hey willcooke, hello Laney!
[09:03] <Laney> hey pitti
[09:03] <Laney> today is the day, eh?
[09:04] <pitti> Laney: yeah -- the day of cleaning my home dirs on Canonical machines, wrap up some fixes, unsubscribe from stuff, and shed a tear
[09:04] <pitti> feels odd
[09:04]  * Laney hugs pitti 
[09:04] <Laney> You finally found the exit ;-)
[09:04]  * pitti hugs Laney back
[09:07]  * desrt wonders about which toys to bring
[09:09] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney desrt
[09:09] <desrt> hi seb :)
[09:11] <davmor2> desrt: like you have to ask bring them all :D
[09:11] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:11] <pitti> hey hey desrt
[09:11] <pitti> good morning davmor2
[09:11] <desrt> good morning everyone :D
[09:11] <desrt> pitti: back home?
[09:12] <pitti> desrt: yes, all went fine, last week was great
[09:12] <Laney> hi desrt hi davmor2 hi seb128 HI HI HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[09:12] <pitti> desrt: last day today!
[09:12] <Laney> it's my last day too
[09:12] <seb128> Laney, how are you? ready for holidays?
[09:12] <Laney> just of the year though
[09:12] <desrt> woot.
[09:12] <desrt> i wonder when my last day is :D
[09:12] <seb128> I had a look to the hr calendar earlier
[09:12] <Laney> hi willcooke too
[09:12] <seb128> good number of people starting being off on thursday
[09:12] <Laney> this bring all your toys thing
[09:13] <Laney> I took my pog collection to school on the last day once
[09:13] <Laney> and some little SHIT
[09:13] <desrt> Laney: ya.. i'm a bit scared..
[09:13] <Laney> smacked them all off the table
[09:13] <Laney> they went EVERYWHERE
[09:13] <Laney> and I never got them all back
[09:13] <desrt> pogs!!
[09:13] <Laney> had some nice slammers too
[09:13] <Laney> it was a good collection
[09:13] <davmor2> Laney: so close but dude it's christmas time now and you have to get into that, so it HI HOOOOO, HI HOOOOOOOOO and off to work we gooooooooooo! ;)
[09:15] <flexiondotorg> Morning davmor2 Laney desrt pitti willcooke hikiko seb128
[09:15]  * pitti finds https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/+me/+packagebugs , really handy
[09:16] <davmor2> pitti: why would you package bugs that's just evil ;)
[09:16] <pitti> davmor2: how else would we ship our bugs to users?
[09:17] <hikiko> hi flexiondotorg davmor2 pitti desrt Laney willcooke seb128 et al
[09:17] <flexiondotorg> o/
[09:17] <seb128> hey hikiko, how are you?
[09:17] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg
[09:17] <desrt> oh.  al is here!
[09:17] <desrt> haven't seen him in a while
[09:17] <hikiko> :P
[09:18] <hikiko> hi seb128 :) I am good you?
[09:18] <seb128> hikiko, I'm good thanks!
[09:20] <hikiko> tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow... is holidays... /me can't wait
[09:20] <pitti> so today is the day when we upload something really broken, right?
[09:22] <desrt> pitti: new systemd!  you can make it happen...
[09:22] <desrt> it's a good time for it.  nobody really needs their computers until like.. jan 2, anyway
[09:22] <pitti> desrt: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd/+packages has a recent build from master
[09:22] <pitti> but unfortunately that effing CI prevents us from uploading or landing anything that breaks booting now :(
[09:22] <pitti> but breaking networking should be fun enough :)
[09:23] <desrt> oo.  jan 2 is a canadian holiday.  nice :D
[09:24] <desrt> pitti: lol.  noob problems.
[09:24] <desrt> an expert would just upload a new "improved, more permissive" CI framework before uploading the new systemd :)
[09:24] <pitti> desrt: OTOH, who could have seen this little typo in debian/sysstemd.install which made the package end up emtpy..
[09:25] <Laney> you just call things 'flaky' and disable them
[09:25] <Laney> it's like when you turn the sirens on and all the traffic signals go green
[09:25] <pitti> red is the new green!
[09:25] <desrt> emergency upload!  someone might be dying!!
[09:56] <pitti> Laney: "Generate Testsuite-Recommends"? ITYM "Testsuite-Restrictions"? thanks for working on this!
[09:57] <pitti> Laney: not sure if it can be fit into Testsuite: somehow, like 'Testsuite: autopkgtest (isolation-machine)'
[09:58] <Laney> yes
[09:58] <Laney> I'd rather have it as easy as possible
[09:58] <Laney> see what feedback the patch gets
[10:10] <Laney> seb128: can you reject the 2 old dbus on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= please?
[10:10]  * Laney just combined them
[10:11] <seb128> Laney, done
[10:11] <Laney> merci
[10:13]  * Laney grumbles
[10:13] <Laney> "sorry, we had to log you out" from some app
[10:13] <Laney> now I get to copy something like j)lEsg>S6u}m@+}DDkjF9|kPh^UgiZ72 from my screen
[10:35] <seb128> k, pushed those snap desktop launcher changed for reviews
[10:35] <seb128> let's have lunch, I started early and I'm hungry ;-)
[10:35] <seb128> bbl
[11:46] <andyrock> morning
[12:39] <seb128> hey andyrock, how are you?
[12:40] <andyrock> hey seb128 fine but I fotgot the yubikey at home
[12:40] <seb128> that sucks
[12:40] <Laney> hey andyrock
[12:40] <tkamppeter> pitti, still there?
[12:40] <Laney> get some backup codes for your wallet
[13:09] <pitti> hello tkamppeter (was out for lunch)
[13:16] <tkamppeter> pitti, thanks also for the help on the systemd problem in the last days.
[13:16] <pitti> tkamppeter: thanks for your kind email
[13:16] <pitti> tkamppeter: right, I didn't drill down further on that one during the sprint, but this shouldn't be too hard I hope; xnox should be able to look into it, and you can ask in #debian-systemd on OFTC too
[13:17] <pitti> seems like this is somewhere between maintainer scripts and that .path unit messing up upgrades
[13:17] <xnox> pitti, tkamppeter: is there a bug number? or email?
[13:17] <pitti> bug 1642966
[13:17] <ubot5`> bug 1642966 in systemd (Ubuntu) "package cups-daemon 2.1.3-4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1642966
[13:18] <pitti> tkamppeter: seems that upstream report wasn't very fruitful -- but I've never got cups to *not* start automatically at boot, as the first thing it does is to write that stamp file and it never removes it again
[13:18] <pitti> (even in a clean and minimal cloud image)
[13:19] <tkamppeter> pitti, it should remove the stamp file if you deactivate the web interface vis cupsd.conf, do not share printers, and do not have remaining active jobs.
[13:19] <pitti> ah
[13:20] <tkamppeter> pitti, cancel your print jobs which had remained after you have given away your Samsung laser.
[13:20] <pitti> tkamppeter: heh; it's not that -- as I said, happens in a clean and fresh VM, probably becasue we enable the web UI by default
[13:21] <pitti> ... which really ought to be handled through a .socket unit
[13:23] <tkamppeter> pitti, will servers with the Cockpit interface also have print functionality?
[13:24] <pitti> tkamppeter: I'm not sure if you can configure printers there, but as cups already has a web UI I guess it's not the most important feature to duplicate it
[13:26] <tkamppeter> pitti, perhaps only some switches for cups-browsed, to tell whether to auto-create queues for certain printers.
[13:27] <tkamppeter> pitti, with the new IPP Everywhere printers (and also the already existing AirPrint printers) printing can get doen administration-less, no drivers and fully automatic queue setup on both USB and network.
[13:28] <Laney> they're automating tkamppeter out of a job!
[13:32] <tkamppeter> Laney, not really, I am doing the infrastructure for that.
[13:32] <pitti> "a" job, not "your" job :)
[13:43] <tkamppeter> pitti, thank you very much for all this nice stuff and have a great new job!
[13:55] <pitti> tkamppeter: thanks! all the best to you too!
[14:00] <czajkowski> pitti: you're leaving :o just saw the deactivation email on lp :(
[14:00] <pitti> czajkowski: wow, reading LP mails more thoroughly than warthogs :)
[14:03] <czajkowski> pitti: well I dont get warthogs mails so I have to keep up to date some way :)
[14:03] <czajkowski> best of luck on your new adventure!
[14:03] <pitti> czajkowski: thanks!
[14:04] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~not-canonical awaits
[14:05] <pitti> formally I need to wait until Jan :)
[14:35] <didrocks> pitti on phoronix! https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Martin-Pitt-Leaves-Canonical
[14:35] <pitti> OMG
[14:35] <didrocks> time to add a comment :-)
[14:36] <didrocks> "THIS guy, he wrote the crash report system, we will live a pleasant crash without knowing our crashes otherwise" :-)
[14:36] <didrocks> all your fault! :p
[14:36] <pitti> aside from the "kernel work" the article is surprisingly correct :)
[14:36] <didrocks> yeah ;)
[14:36] <willcooke> :)
[14:36]  * pitti has a whopping TWO patches in the kernel, that doesn't qualify :)
[14:36] <didrocks> one is enough, you get the tatoo then
[14:38]  * didrocks hugs pitti, we are really going to miss you
[14:38]  * pitti hugs back didrocks and the desktop team!
[14:41]  * Laney wibbles
[14:43] <tjaalton> pitti: thanks for everything, and have fun at your next job!
[14:44] <pitti> tjaalton: thanks! likewise, all the best to you!
[14:49] <seb128> Ubuntu without pitti is not going to be the same :-/
[14:52] <dobey> indeed
[14:56] <qengho> :(
[15:14] <Sweet5hark> what the going rate of the cockpit team at RH? if we in desktop all throw in a few bugs we should be able to buy them back in bulk.
[15:29]  * willcooke rings the last bell of the year
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Christmas Meeting 2016-12-13
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec 13 15:30:01 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call: Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong (hols), flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[15:30] <Sweet5hark> moin
[15:30] <andyrock> hey
[15:30] <happyaron> hey
[15:30] <hikiko> hello
[15:31] <Laney> arghghg
[15:31] <Laney> HI
[15:31] <flexiondotorg> o/
[15:31] <seb128> hey
[15:31] <qengho> Aieee!
[15:32] <Trevinho> ehyo!
[15:34] <willcooke> let's beging
[15:34] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:34] <andyrock> #1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1648168
[15:34] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1648168 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Launcher quicklists are blurry" [High,Triaged]
[15:34] <andyrock> #2 still working on the windows list for u8 ql
[15:34] <andyrock> #3 A couple of reviews
[15:34] <andyrock> #eof
[15:35] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[15:35] <willcooke> sorry, side conversation
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:36] <attente> hi
[15:36] <attente> followed up on RT for snapcraft jhbuild plugin, fixed proxy problem to get the integration test working on github c-i
[15:36] <attente> revisions to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775732, needs review
[15:36] <ubot5`> Gnome bug 775732 in Backend: Mir "mir: clipboard support missing" [Normal,New]
[15:36] <attente> SRU for bubblewrap in xenial, need a sponsor
[15:36] <attente> need to profile gtk-mir to debug menu flickering
[15:36] <attente> (eof)
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks attente
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:37] <desrt> dconf proxy: created a new interface on the proxy as the first point of contact for clients, to answer the basic questions of "where do i talk to now?".  this deduplicates a lot of the confinement logic in terms of "what paths should this client be using?"
[15:37] <desrt> also started working on forwarding write requests (subject to security policy) to the service
[15:37] <desrt> still waiting to hear about apparmor
[15:37] <desrt> eof
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks desrt
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:37] <dgadomski> hey
[15:37] <dgadomski> * found the cause of bug #1550983 - seems to be Debian/Ubuntu specific and related to gl disabled in cairo some time ago. Described it in a debian bug #847366.
[15:37] <ubot5`> bug 1550983 in One Hundred Papercuts "Fails to start with "Couldn't open libGL.so.1" (missing dependency?)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550983
[15:37] <ubot5`> Debian bug 847366 in libgtk-3-0 "gtk apps die with 'Couldn't open libGL.so.1'" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/847366
[15:37] <dgadomski> eof
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic flexiondotorg
[15:38] <dgadomski> thank you
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> Time appropriate greetings!
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> · Researched this weeks candidates for the Snap Upstream Blitz and update Trello
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> · Ran some Python snap build testing on Launchpad to assist _cjwatson and confirm LP: #1642281 is fixed, which it is.
[15:38] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1642281 in launchpad-buildd "Unable to build python based snap on Launchpad" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1642281
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> · Orientation for Patch Piloting with _dholbach
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> · Lots of snap out reach. Direct contact with Lightworks, JetBrains Suite, Unity 3D Editor, electron-builder, sshguard, Nuvola Player, MakeMKV, Handbrake, Black Magic, Mail-in-a-box and several others.
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> · Provided snapcraft assistance to several upstreams and ISVs.
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> · Returned to GTK theme improvements I was working.
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> 🎬
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks flexiondotorg
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:39] <happyaron> 1. ibus 1.5.14 and merge
[15:39] <happyaron> 2. ibus friends updates
[15:39] <happyaron> 3. netcat-openbsd 1.130-1
[15:39] <happyaron> 4. nm-applet 1.4.2 review
[15:39] <happyaron> 5. bugs in xenial version of nm-applet
[15:39] <happyaron> 6. still looking for sponsorship for nm/1.2.4 SRU
[15:39] <happyaron> (eof)
[15:39] <seb128> happyaron, where did you look for sponsoring?
[15:40] <seb128> is your update in the sponsoring queue?
[15:41] <happyaron> seb128: not yet, was ready last week and pinged pitt_i but he might lost the ping
[15:41] <happyaron> shall I go for sponsoring queue then?
[15:41] <seb128> yes please
[15:41] <seb128> should have started there ;-)
[15:41] <happyaron> okay
[15:42] <seb128> you might want to try to ping people in case nobody picks it up
[15:42] <seb128> but it never hurts to have it in the queue
[15:42] <happyaron> I see
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks happyaron, seb128
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
[15:42] <hikiko> hi
[15:42] <hikiko> hi,
[15:42] <hikiko> fixed the remaining low gfx parts (reviewed-approved)
[15:42] <hikiko> apart from the last compiz/ucc/u7 branches that are
[15:42] <hikiko> in progress and I'm trying to finish today before I
[15:42] <hikiko> leave for holidays (I think I am getting close to that) EOF
[15:43] <willcooke> good stuff, thanks hikiko
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:43] <Laney> meow
[15:43] <Laney> off from today
[15:43] <Laney> forgot to write that in the following awesome bullets
[15:43] <Laney> • Got the transition(s) of hell out of the way after running 9999 tests locally, fixing stuff, skipping others and abusing the hint tester
[15:43] <Laney> • Broke and fixed the autopkgtest queues /o\
[15:43] <Laney> • Fixed broken adwaita-icon-theme release (just pushed upstream too) & uploaded that
[15:43] <Laney> • Some random -proposed fixes
[15:43] <Laney> • appstream: Killed off old generator, returned 1000G of space to IS as we no longer need a full mirror
[15:43] <Laney> • autopkgtest: Initial investigations around running all tests in lxd; sent a patch to dpkg @ debian to expose the restrictions in .dsc files, started looking at autopkgtest-cloud to see where that needs changes (at least userdata and the lxd worker config, will need more depending on how we do the dispatch)
[15:43] <Laney> • Cried about pitti going :(
[15:43] <Laney> • Did some light sponsoring
[15:43] <Laney> 😢
[15:44] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:44] <willcooke> hugs all round
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:44] <qengho> Just one thing took all my time.
[15:44] <qengho> * Got chromium 55 building without crashes. Not scientifically. Using g++4.8 only.
[15:44] <qengho> That will fix the complaints with Y and Z versions and Symantec-issued TLS certificates.
[15:44] <qengho> I'll spend December days finding out why Debian's works, other than that they don't care about ARMHF or ARM64.
[15:44] <qengho> EOF
[15:44] <willcooke> thanks qengho
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:45] <seb128> • spent quite some time in launchpad triaging bugs, debugging/upstreaming some
[15:45] <seb128> • some archive admin work (NEW reviews)
[15:45] <seb128> • snappy gtk/gnome runtime work
[15:45] <seb128> ∘ got a working version of the runtime snap, discussed it with Didier and iterated a bit over it
[15:45] <seb128> ∘ got a gtk3-demo example using it which is working as well, did some iterations over it as well
[15:45] <seb128> ∘ worked on the gtk launcher changes needed for the runtime, first part landed and being iterating on the remaining work with Didier
[15:45] <seb128> ∘ spent some time trying to workaround snapcraft trying to be clever and bundling the libraries used by your binaries (which defeats the purpose of the content sharing) without luck
[15:45] <seb128> ∘ started a mailing list discussion about previous item but got feedback only from others having the issue, no reply/interest from the snapcraft team
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[15:45] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - some writer refactoring
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - locally reproducing snap build fail
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> => curiously, my local snapcraft build break in a different way (earlier) as on launchpad, so worked around that for now -- still thats bad
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> => also see a bazillion deprecation warnings from snapcraft. I somehow find it worrisome that there is more babysitting needed for snapcraft changes than for the (huge) LibreOffice upstream over the same time
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> - some contract check work, some budgeting, some mentoring on the build system
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:46] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
[15:47] <willcooke> please raise your concerns with the snapcraft guys, we need them to hear it
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:47] <willcooke> Please let me have your update via email TheMuso
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released 1.13.0 which allows setting up driverless printers with the CUPS web interface or with system-config-printer and drops urftopdf as rastertopdf also understands Apple Raster now.
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - ippusbxd: Tested driverless (IPP Everywhere, AirPrint) printing on USB, via IPP-over-USB. Improvements on stability and robustness of ippusbxd, especiallly when it gets hammered by web browsers when accessing the printer's web admin interface (admin interface works only with Firefox but at least does not lock up or crash ippusbxd when using Chromium).
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - Driverless printing: More testing with Aveek Basu. A Lexmark PDF printer does the job perfectly.
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - Canonical: Said good-bye to pitti. It's a pity that pitti leaves.
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:48] <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
[15:48] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:48] <pitti> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t99KH0TR-J4 :)
[15:48] <Trevinho> · Short week (8th was NH and Monday out)
[15:48] <Trevinho> · Few more fixes to snapcraft parser to support multiple origin parameters
[15:48] <Trevinho> · Unity8 pointer mode indicators work
[15:48] <Trevinho> · Not really desktop related, but still... Added Time based OTP mode support to canonical identity provider (login.ubuntu.com)
[15:48] <tkamppeter> Currently, I make ippusbxd broadcasting via Bonjour, so that cups-browsed does the auto-setup of the queus.
[15:48] <Trevinho> EOF
[15:48] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[15:49] <willcooke> sorry tkamppeter, I cut you off too soon
[15:49] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:50] <tkamppeter> Currently, I make ippusbxd broadcasting via Bonjour, so that cups-browsed does the auto-setup of the queus.
[15:51] <willcooke> thx tkamppeter
[15:51] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:51] <willcooke> - LightDM 1.21.2, 1.21.3 released
[15:51] <willcooke> - lightdm snap work
[15:51] <willcooke> - simple-scan 3.23.3 released
[15:51] <willcooke> #topic So Long pitti
[15:51] <willcooke> :(
[15:51]  * pitti takes a bow, it's been an incredible ride; I'll miss working with you guys!
[15:51] <willcooke> Thanks for everything you've done for the desktop pitti
[15:51] <willcooke> We made you this cake
[15:51] <willcooke> <cake emoji>
[15:52] <pitti> yummy, with ice cream on top!
[15:52]  * seb128 hugs pitti
[15:52]  * Sweet5hark grumbles as usual, but joins the hub.
[15:52] <Sweet5hark> hug
[15:53] <willcooke> Let's carry on the party after the meeting then...
[15:53] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Dec 13 15:53:06 2016 UTC.
[15:53] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-12-13-15.30.moin.txt
[15:53] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:53] <seb128> it's fine, pitti is used to change team every few years, he comes back on next rotation :p
[15:53] <pitti> willcooke: I got a proper send-off from my foundations colleagues last week
[15:53] <pitti> my liver filed a restraining order
[15:53] <willcooke> :D
[15:53] <Sweet5hark> pitti: common you never really left desktop
[15:53] <Sweet5hark> ;)
[15:54] <pitti> and I'll stay in the channel (except during holidays)
[15:54]  * Sweet5hark is still in denial it seems.
[15:54] <seb128> we should start a petition for the universe to send us pitti back :p
[15:54] <pitti> I'll respond to hugs and ignore pings about actual work :)
[15:55] <pitti> ironically my first task at RH is to *drumroll*
[15:55] <pitti> ... package cockpit for Debian and Ubuntu :)
[15:55] <seb128> lol
[15:55] <willcooke> SNAP!
[15:55] <pitti> no, only the real packaging format
[15:56] <Laney> haha
[15:56] <Laney> the chains are off
[15:56] <willcooke> lol
[15:56] <Sweet5hark> hrhr
[15:56] <pitti> I created the world's first-ever snap (ROS tutorial), that must be enough :)
[15:56] <Laney> he means curl | bash
[15:57] <pitti> Laney: well, I thought *that* was snap :)
[15:58] <Sweet5hark> Laney: hey, lets stay all POSIXy and just do curl|sh!
[16:18] <pitti> TTFN -- time to start the EOY holidays, IRC-less; I wish you all some nice resting and time with your family, see you back in January!
[16:18] <Laney> bye pitti!
[16:19] <Laney> froehe weihnachten!
[16:19] <Laney> enjoy learning some new ropes
[16:19] <seb128> indeed!
[16:19] <pitti> between JavaScript (yay) and rpm (argh) :)
[16:20] <Laney> frohe*
[16:20] <Laney> (?)
[16:20] <pitti> Laney: yes, "frohe"
[16:42] <seb128> k, on that note calling it a day a bit earlier, yeah for starting at 7am ;-)
[16:42] <seb128> with the gtk launcher working good way to wrap, thanks didrocks ;-)
[16:42] <seb128> have a nice evening desktopers, see you tomorrow
[16:43] <Laney> nice
[16:43] <Laney> bye seb128!
[16:43] <Laney> happy christmas ; -)
[16:43] <seb128> Laney, enjoy your holidays!
[16:43] <seb128> you too
[16:43] <willcooke> see ya seb128
[16:43] <Trevinho> Laney: oh, happy xmas holidays!
[16:43] <Laney> hey Trevinho
[16:43] <Laney> thanks
[16:43] <Trevinho> :-)
[16:43] <Laney> need to do shopping :(
[16:43]  * Trevinho doesn't envy you
[16:45] <didrocks> yw ;)
[16:45] <didrocks> see you Laney, happy holidays! :)
[16:45]  * Laney isn't going
[16:45] <didrocks> Laney: I'm going soon, so using that opportunity (don't want to miss it ;))
[16:45] <Laney> ohhhh
[16:45] <Laney> bye then didrocks
[16:46]  * didrocks hugs Laney, drink responsibly! :)
[16:46] <didrocks> (or not)
[16:46]  * Laney is having a few days off after sunday night ...
[16:46] <didrocks> heh! when are you back?
[16:47] <Laney> like the 3rd or whatever it is
[16:49] <Laney> we're going for a weekend in brighton on friday
[16:49] <Laney> then visiting family from xmas eve-ish
[16:49] <didrocks> nice! still in the same area?
[16:49] <Laney> nah
[16:49] <Laney> will come back to nottingham in between
[16:50] <didrocks> oh ok :)
[16:50] <didrocks> we are not really going to move and only stay at home, for obvious reasons :)
[16:51] <Laney> last weeks of calm
[16:52] <didrocks> yep :)
[16:52] <didrocks> counting them :p
[16:55] <didrocks> zomg so few!
[16:55] <Laney> heh
[16:56] <didrocks> (yes, I'm counting very slowly :p)
[16:56]  * Laney hugs didrocks 
[16:56] <Laney> excited for you!
[16:56]  * didrocks hugs Laney back, thanks! :)
[16:57] <Laney> ah man
[16:57] <Laney> might buy a christmas tree tomorrow
[16:58] <didrocks> you have some lights and decorations?
[16:58] <xnox> bregma, please add me to https://launchpad.net/~unity8-desktop-session-team/+members or please approve https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/unity8-desktop-session/upstart-dep/+merge/313157 to prevent breaking unity8 desktop session in zesty whilst everything else is dropping explicit upstart dependency and seeds.
[16:59] <xnox> bregma, the package execs upstart, and should depend on upstart, until i make merge proposal to exec systemd =)
[16:59]  * Laney enjoys the upstart-dropping spree
[17:00] <xnox> yeah. there are still a few units to write, and port the session starting scripts.
[17:00] <xnox> but i would like to avoid pre-mature breakage of thing, as stuff is landing a bit async.
[17:01] <Laney> is all the random phone stuff done?
[17:02] <xnox> Laney, no, but i now have M10 tablet in possetion to quickly port them, and validate they are worky
[17:02] <Laney> lucky you!
[17:02] <xnox> Laney, e.g. ported and tested that customization hooks are now systemdified
[17:02] <xnox> Laney, i went into the office for secret santa. got an M10 table by sweet talking ondra
[17:06] <Laney> xnox: you old charmer
[17:43] <czajkowski> first pitti then dholbach today is not a good day people :(
[17:44] <Laney> czajkowski: Maybe we can reverse the trend if you'll come back :-)
[17:46] <czajkowski> Laney: one of me vs those two rock stars I don't think will cut it !
[17:51] <flexiondotorg> Night desktopers
[18:00] <Laney> right homies
[18:01] <Laney> happy hols, see you on the other side
[18:01] <hikiko> happy holidays Laney
[18:56] <willcooke> night all