[04:34] <Kilos> morning all and sundry
[05:59] <Kilos-> ai! power cut, running on genny
[08:11] <Kilos> ill be ofline all day tomorrow guys, going to hospital
[08:11] <Kilos> morning inetpro its reverification time again, 
[08:12] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy 
[08:14] <thatgraemeguy> 'lo :)
[08:33] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines
[08:41] <theblazehen> Hi all
[09:39] <Kilos-> hi theblazehen 
[09:41] <Langjan> hi Kilos- 
[09:42] <theblazehen> hi Kilos-, Langjan. How's things going?
[09:42] <Kilos-> hi Langjan 
[09:43] <Kilos> what broke Langjan 
[09:43] <Langjan> im introducing Marietjie to Ubuntu and irc
[09:44] <Langjan> showing her around
[09:45] <Kilos> hi marietjie
[09:45] <Kilos> be careful of that old goat he likes to break things
[09:46] <Kilos> when you need help look for someone not carrying a 4lb hammer or n tang en bloudraad
[09:46] <Langjan> lmga! Only when kde comes into the equation
[09:46]  * Kilos hides
[09:49] <Langjan> just want to connect her to hexchat so she can skip the hammers and bloudraad
[09:51] <Langjan> Kilos,  just help me to connect her correctly to this channel plse 
[09:52] <Kilos> ok
[09:52] <Kilos> hexchat
[09:53] <Kilos> freenode and edit it
[09:53] <Kilos> then chat.freenode.net
[09:53] <Kilos> then #ubuntu-za as the channel to join
[09:54] <Kilos> and put her nickname in and register it with freenode or it will get stolen
[09:57] <Kilos> lemme go open irc on desktop pc as well because im in and out both sides'
[10:04] <Kilos> hi marietjie 
[10:04] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[10:05] <Kilos> sop daai ou kerel hoor
[10:05] <Kilos> hy baie skelm
[10:05] <marietjie_> kil
[10:05] <Kilos> i know its you jan
[10:05] <Kilos> kil +tab
[10:05] <Langjan> no you chancer I'm over here
[10:06] <Kilos> ek hoop julle lag lekker oor die engelsman se streke
[10:06] <Kilos> yaya
[10:06] <marietjie_> Kilos, dankie vir die hulp
[10:06] <Langjan> Watch your language theres a lady around
[10:06] <Kilos> welkom enige tyd
[10:06] <Kilos> my language is always clean
[10:06] <Langjan> jaja
[10:06] <Langjan> some will believe you
[10:07] <Kilos> jaja
[10:07] <Langjan> marietjie_ is soos ek, kry sooibrand van te veel Ingels 
[10:07] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:07] <Kilos> twee snye suurlemoen in n glas water en drink dit heel dat
[10:07] <Kilos> voeg net water by
[10:08] <Kilos> Langjan you have her connecting twice as you did before
[10:08] <Kilos> fix it
[10:08] <Kilos> lemon slices in water actually alkalises your system
[10:08] <Langjan> ok we will chat about wb later Kilos 
[10:08] <marietjie> Kilos, praat later en geniet jou dag
[10:08] <Kilos> and stops heartburn
[10:09] <Langjan> will sort it out
[10:09] <Kilos> julle ook
[10:09] <Kilos> goed gaan
[10:09] <Langjan> lekker skape vang
[10:09] <Kilos> haha niks skape hier nie
[12:26] <superfly> Well, one thing I know is that if I need to practice my Afrikaans, I can do it in here
[12:26] <Kilos> haha hi there superfly 
[12:27] <Kilos> superfly did you see the mails about the reverification
[12:27] <Kilos> sigh
[12:27] <superfly> yes
[12:27] <Kilos> i hate that every 2 years
[12:28] <Kilos> the old wiki page should be there still but i have no idea even where to look for it
[12:28] <Kilos> i asked neil to start it
[12:28] <Kilos> having another bad head day so will nap a while then try
[12:29] <superfly> OK, lekker slaap.
[12:29] <Kilos> ty
[12:49] <nlsthzn> ^_^
[13:08] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[13:09] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[13:09] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[13:09] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd 
[13:09] <pavlushka> Hi Kilos :)
[13:09] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[13:09] <chesedo> hi Kilos
[13:10] <pavlushka> and Hi to all that Kilos saying hi :p
[13:10] <Kilos> haha
[13:10] <pavlushka> hello chesedo :)
[13:11] <chesedo> ohi pavlushka
[13:57] <nlsthzn> alo all... how are you uncle Kilos?
[14:01] <nlsthzn> so I see we are up for re-verification
[14:01] <nlsthzn> *sigh*
[14:12] <Kilos> ok ty nlsthzn and you?
[14:13] <Kilos> yeah what a business
[14:13] <nlsthzn> fine thanks
[14:13] <Kilos> and i dont think we have done anything this year
[14:13] <Kilos> or the last 2 actually
[14:14] <Kilos> everyone is too busy making a living
[14:16] <Kilos> fly is always working on openlp and he and frogboots are working on iterum
[14:16] <Kilos> but nothing else is being done i think
[14:16] <Kilos> or has been
[14:19] <Kilos> do you have the link for our last reverification wiki page nlsthzn ?
[14:19] <Kilos> thats a few drives ago for me
[14:22] <nlsthzn> I will have a look... I have *really* not been active the last bit in ZA land
[14:22] <Kilos> who has
[14:22] <Kilos> im quite used to and happy with an i5 lappy with an ssd
[14:22] <Kilos> nice and fast
[14:23] <nlsthzn> My HDD just got downgraded to a 5400rpm hdd... whole system sluggish >.<
[14:23] <Kilos> only screen should be larger then desktop backgrounds wont need to be centred and leave a small pic in the centre
[14:24] <Kilos> ai!
[14:24] <Kilos> pity ssd's are so expensive
[14:24] <Kilos> they nice and fast
[14:25] <theblazehen> Kilos tiered storage :) Small ssd + big hdd
[14:26] <Kilos> cant do that inna lappy unless you replace the dvd with a caddy and they are expensive
[14:26] <Kilos> sigh
[14:27] <nsnzero> hi Kilos
[14:27] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[14:27] <Kilos> im trying to remember who you are
[14:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:28] <nsnzero> lol , i am easy to forget
[14:28] <Kilos> nono im getting old and forgetful
[14:28] <nlsthzn> Kilos, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014
[14:28] <nlsthzn> this is from 2014
[14:28] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn 
[14:28] <Kilos> that should be it then
[14:28] <nlsthzn> comparing it to the one of 2010 it didn't look good, and from what you have said of the last two years... I dunno
[14:29] <Kilos> eish
[14:29] <nlsthzn> if memory serves there is a template that was followed
[14:29] <Kilos> ai! ai! ai! ai! ai!
[14:29] <Kilos> we just upgade this one i think
[14:29] <Kilos> saves lotsa work
[14:30] <Kilos> or copy it to the new one
[14:30] <Kilos> then edit
[14:30] <nlsthzn> I guess... the guidelines are @ - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines
[14:30] <Kilos> dont make me read lots man head thumping
[14:31] <Kilos> chesedo feel free to jump in anytime
[14:31] <Kilos> oh yes
[14:31] <Kilos> nlsthzn i think we built ubuntu-africa in the last 2 years
[14:31] <Kilos> so that an irc channel and the website
[14:32] <nlsthzn> so it still going strong?
[14:32] <Kilos> of course
[14:33] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-africa.info
[14:33] <Kilos> i chat to some of them daily
[14:33] <Kilos> but the busy bug has hit the whole of africa
[14:34] <nlsthzn> to channel #ubuntu-africa
[14:35] <Kilos> one advantage with that setup, no two yearly reverification
[14:36] <nlsthzn> well verification isn't a must as we discussed last time...
[14:36] <Kilos> nono
[14:36] <nlsthzn> did we receive DVD's / USB's from all the releases the last two years?
[14:36] <Kilos> its a must if you want to throw any weight around
[14:36] <nlsthzn> how much weight was thrown around recently?
[14:37] <Kilos> its all flash disks now and you have to prove an event to get them
[14:37] <nlsthzn> so we didn't
[14:37] <Kilos> oh i had some set toos with other members
[14:37] <Kilos> no we had no events
[14:38] <Kilos> you can still buy them i think
[14:38]  * nlsthzn was always pushing for verification... now not so sure
[14:38] <Kilos> google ubuntu flash install sticks or something
[14:38] <Kilos> no we must stay verified
[14:39] <Kilos> i cant fight from a sick loco
[14:39] <nlsthzn> well I guess we need to fill the wiki page and see if enough was done then
[14:39] <Kilos> i need a strong backbone
[14:40]  * nlsthzn just installed ubuntu again (but then again, I might distro-hop before midnight :p)
[14:40] <Kilos> haha im hooked on kde now
[14:40] <Kilos> 14.04 and 16.04 on desktop and 16.04 here on lappy
[14:41] <nlsthzn> plasma 5.8 and above really good noow
[14:41] <nlsthzn> *now
[14:42] <nlsthzn> my keyboard still double typing letters every now and again
[14:42] <nlsthzn> drives me nuts
[14:42] <Kilos> im happy but 2 much eye candy for me
[14:42] <Kilos> sow its rate down
[14:42] <nlsthzn> well KDE does let you tweak everything
[14:42] <Kilos> its younr fingers that are getting slower
[14:43] <nlsthzn> I believe it is either me or the keyboard, happens on two different PC's and 7 different OS's >.<
[14:43] <Kilos> add to the milliseconds between that repeat thing
[14:43] <Kilos> must be you
[14:43] <Kilos> old age
[14:43] <Kilos> hehe
[14:43] <theblazehen> nlsthzn even when you type really fast?
[14:44] <nlsthzn> perhaps... diabetes does attack your nervous system two :/
[14:44] <nlsthzn> mostly when I type fast
[14:44] <Kilos> oh i must give you some info on that nlsthzn 
[14:44] <nlsthzn> sometimes I can tap a key and get 5 of a letter
[14:44] <theblazehen> Sorry, I meant does it repeat when you go fast and not super fast?
[14:44] <theblazehen> Hmm. And 16.04 or 16.10 right?
[14:45] <nlsthzn> windows 7 / 10 /ubuntu 14.04 16.04 16.10 opensuse 13.2 42.1 42.2 tumbleweed solydxk fedora xyz mint abc etc. etc.
[14:45] <nlsthzn> I distro hop
[14:45] <nlsthzn> alot
[14:45] <theblazehen> Ah. USB keyboard?
[14:45] <nlsthzn> yes usb
[14:46] <nlsthzn> thought it was my last motherboard which has a flaky usb 3 chipset
[14:46] <nlsthzn> but now on a solid intel board the same
[14:46] <theblazehen> Which keyboard? Or just some random cheap keyboard?
[14:46] <nlsthzn> nope
[14:46] <nlsthzn> steelseries v2 something or other
[14:46] <nlsthzn> mechanical
[14:46]  * theblazehen thinks it has to do with interrupts or something
[14:46] <theblazehen> With usb
[14:46] <nlsthzn> lovely keyboard... think I should get a cheepy and try it, might be me
[14:47] <theblazehen> When system load is very low then I can type fine, increase a bit and I can't
[14:47] <nlsthzn> dunno...
[14:47] <theblazehen> Have lots of IO on the PCI bus of that system
[14:47] <theblazehen> Can you set it to some kind of generic mode?
[14:47] <nlsthzn> not enough of a nuisance for me to actually do something except complain :p
[14:47] <Kilos> lol
[14:48] <theblazehen> Eg, my K70 has a normal mode which does the traditional 3 keys only etc, not the n key rollover etc
[14:48] <nlsthzn> no special switches
[14:48] <theblazehen> Does `lshw` show usb controller on the pci / pcie bus?
[14:50] <nlsthzn> holy output batman
[14:50] <nlsthzn> will take some time to go through all that 
[14:51] <theblazehen> Just scroll till you see usb
[14:51] <theblazehen> it's a tree
[14:51] <theblazehen> See what the usb controller is connected to
[14:53] <nlsthzn> hmmm there seems to be one usb that is nested under pci:2 and one usb that is a level higher not under pci
[14:53] <nlsthzn> the usb 3 controller
[14:53] <nlsthzn> the usb 2 is on its own
[14:54] <theblazehen> Is keyboard on usb 2 port?
[14:58] <nlsthzn> forgot I am on another mobo currently... AFAIK mouse and keyboard on usb 2
[14:58] <nlsthzn> but I have had the mobo on both usb 2 / 3 as test some time ago
[14:58] <nlsthzn> but that was on another set-up
[14:58] <theblazehen> Hmm, alright. Well, dunno then. One I'm having issue with I don't use the console much
[14:58] <nlsthzn> theblazehen, don't worry about it... I think I will try a generic and see if there is a difference
[14:59] <theblazehen> nlsthzn Alright. Try a PS2 keyboard as well
[15:00] <nlsthzn> was looking for a converter as I have the ports at the back... going ps2 to usb easy to get, the other way around not so much >.<
[15:05] <Kilos> i like ps2 kb on desktop pc
[15:05] <Kilos> saves a usb
[15:10] <nsnzero> maybe the key repeat-rate needs to be tweaked
[15:13] <nlsthzn> set it up a bit higher... lets see :)
[15:13] <Kilos> thats what i do
[15:13] <nlsthzn> but I don't shake that badly (yet) :p
[15:13] <Kilos> make it many more microseconds more
[15:20] <nsnzero> guys you must also try out zsh shell its good from what i can see
[15:21]  * theblazehen will show off my zsh later :)
[15:22] <nsnzero> now that i want to see 
[15:53] <nlsthzn> think it was fish shell I tried some time ago... liked the tab-complete in it
[16:01] <MaNL> does anybody here use snaps ( http://snapcraft.io/ ) - just wanted to gauge the average linux users opinion on them. Would you be okay if some package you wanted only came in snap form, or do you expect to also have it in the main repo? Do you like the idea of snaps or hate it? etc.
[16:27] <Kilos> superfly can we just edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014 to be our wiki for this year or must we make a new one
[16:27] <Kilos> inetpro you need to wake up now
[16:27] <Kilos> work to be done you know
[16:30] <nsnzero> work makes me sleepy
[16:36] <nlsthzn> Kilos, we make a copy of that one with a new name
[16:36] <nlsthzn> and then edit it
[16:37]  * nlsthzn is the busy but will do it later
[16:37] <nlsthzn> maybe >.>
[16:37] <Kilos> ok i must sleep early, leaving at 5 am to go hospital
[16:38] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn 
[16:38]  * nlsthzn must first attempt to log into launchpad >.<
[16:39] <Kilos> im in there now
[16:39] <nlsthzn> hey that was easy :p
[16:39] <Kilos> lol
[16:41] <nlsthzn> done - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2016
[16:43] <nsnzero> later guys
[16:45] <nlsthzn> what it that todo application/website you guys were using some time ago
[16:45] <nlsthzn> ?
[16:45] <nlsthzn> we could use some "planning" 
[16:59] <nlsthzn> btw, I am working night shift on the 19th.  So won't be able to show up for the IRC meeting for reverification
[17:00] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:00] <Kilos> oh
[17:00] <Kilos> um
[17:00] <Kilos> ai!
[17:01] <Kilos> inetpro 
[17:01] <Kilos> chesedo knows as well also too
[17:01] <Kilos> trello
[17:01] <nlsthzn> ah ok
[17:02] <nlsthzn> crap... stupid o's still doubling... and the speed so low it takes forever to delete text when I back space :p
[17:02] <Kilos> lol
[17:03]  * chesedo has not followed the conversation, but should be able to attend the 19th's reverification... will confirm
[17:04] <Kilos> whats our trello addy chesedo 
[17:04] <Kilos> we need a page for planning for reverification
[17:04] <chesedo> https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[17:06] <nlsthzn> odd, I don't have an account
[17:08] <nlsthzn> hmmm... will take me more time to figure out how to use this effectively than trying to do all myself :/
[17:08]  * nlsthzn had a huge urge to play heroes of the storm
[17:11] <Kilos> ive added a list called reverification planning but dunno wha card to add
[17:12] <Kilos> chesedo ball in your court
[17:13] <chesedo> Kilos: anything that describes the next step (or what is needed) will be fine
[17:13] <Cryterion> Evening
[17:13] <chesedo> Kilos: will it even have more than one card?
[17:13] <chesedo> hello Cryterion
[17:14] <Kilos> ?
[17:14] <Kilos> sigh just burned butter so bad whole house is smoke
[17:14] <Kilos> sigh
[17:16] <nlsthzn> trello is hard
[17:16] <nlsthzn> grrr
[17:16] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[17:16] <Kilos> weve added it 4 times now
[17:16] <Kilos> chesedo is the trello man and inetpro
[17:17] <chesedo> lol
[17:17] <Kilos> nlsthzn click the show menu top right
[17:17] <Kilos> wha a blow
[17:18] <Kilos> chesedo fix it please
[17:18]  * chesedo will be able to help and catch up in a few minutes
[17:18] <chesedo> just busy getting server fixed
[17:18] <Kilos> ok ty
[17:19] <nlsthzn> think I getting the idea
[17:19] <nlsthzn> now only in one area uncle Kilos :p
[17:19] <nlsthzn> slowly but surely
[17:19] <Kilos> well done
[17:19] <Kilos> ive forgotten how to use it
[17:36]  * nlsthzn watching Edward Snowden talking about something or other
[17:37] <nlsthzn> live... got to love the internet
[18:23] <nsnzero> good evening all
[18:24] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[18:24] <nsnzero> hi again Kilos , arent you supposed to be in bed by now ?
[18:25] <Kilos> nearly but started cooking late
[18:25] <Kilos> so i gonna add to my fat belly by eating late
[18:26] <nsnzero>  i eat at 4 , bad acid reflux if i eat late and sleep
[18:27] <Kilos> better to eat early yeah
[18:28] <nsnzero> but speaking of cooking , i am looking for a recipe for a sftp server that doesnt display anythin , no gui or console
[18:29] <nsnzero> boredom has lead me to explore the grey area of hac... mmmh pen-testing 
[18:35]  * nsnzero wondered how everybody did this until know
[18:38] <Kilos> ssh
[18:38]  * Kilos guessing
[18:40] <nsnzero> if i could only improve my spelling 
[18:40] <pavlushka> Guys, you are on a re-verification process?
[18:41] <pavlushka> please tell me if I can be of any use, that will add up to my exp too :)
[18:41] <pavlushka> chesedo: ^
[18:43] <nsnzero> hi pavlushka
[18:43] <pavlushka> Hi nsnzero :)
[18:44] <Kilos> yes on the 19th pavlushka 
[18:46] <nsnzero> sounds interesting ... can i assist as well 
[18:46] <inetpro> good mornings
[18:46] <inetpro> yikes!
[18:47] <inetpro> you guys chat too much today... hond uit 'n bos uit
[18:47] <pavlushka> Good Morning inetpro :)
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: and you expect me to read all that?
[18:47] <inetpro> goeie dag pavlushka
[18:47] <nsnzero> hi there inetpro
[18:48] <inetpro> wb nsnzero... you've been quiet
[18:48] <Kilos> lol
[18:49] <pavlushka> inetpro: same to you :)
[18:49] <Kilos> inetpro https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[18:50]  * pavlushka had a cold day
[18:52] <inetpro> pavlushka: get the body on the move to warm up
[18:53] <pavlushka> inetpro: will do in the morning :)
[18:53] <Kilos> lol
[18:53] <inetpro> get yourself a treadmill desk
[18:53] <Kilos> and a barbell mouse
[18:56] <nsnzero> save money and just walk to work 
[18:57] <inetpro> pavlushka: do you ever get snow in your part of the planet?
[18:57] <pavlushka> nsnzero: that will work double fold 
[18:57] <pavlushka> inetpro: nope
[18:58] <pavlushka> but I am in the coldest part of my country, closer to Himalayas
[18:58] <Kilos> eeeek
[18:58] <inetpro> 👍
[18:59]  * chesedo is now caught up... well with the chat atleast
[18:59] <inetpro> well done chesedo
[18:59]  * inetpro gave up reading
[19:00] <chesedo> pavlushka: will do, and keep up to date with the trello list to see what we are doing
[19:00] <chesedo> nsnzero: you should be able to assist
[19:00] <pavlushka> chesedo: sure :)
[19:00]  * chesedo does not even know what has to be done yet... this will be the first he is helping with
[19:01] <chesedo> nsnzero: also check Kali for pen-testing
[19:01] <chesedo> now my head is clear of all that...
[19:02] <nsnzero> hi chesedo
[19:03] <Kilos> chesedo read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014
[19:03] <Kilos> thats what we did 2 years ago
[19:03] <chesedo> Kilos: from that I have a question. How involved were we in last year's SFD?
[19:04] <nsnzero> just  name a task for me to help with 
[19:04] <chesedo> oh and Kilos do not let me keep you awake for tomorrow
[19:04] <Kilos> ask inetpro 
[19:05] <Kilos> haha
[19:05] <inetpro> chesedo: we've never done enough really, always more that can be done
[19:05] <Kilos> i dont have to drive so i can sleep in the car i spose
[19:07] <chesedo> inetpro: oh ok, I see that we had that on 2014's, do you think we will be able to slip it in again?
[19:08] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:08] <chesedo> nha Kilos you can also help afterwards ;)
[19:08] <superfly> nlsthzn: Trello
[19:09] <inetpro> chesedo: we didn't even have a SFD event this year
[19:10] <inetpro> s/a/an/
[19:10] <chesedo> inetpro:  last year's should count for this one since the reverification is every two years right?
[19:11] <chesedo> lol S in not a vowel
[19:11] <inetpro> ok... guess we can say we had members attending it but not much more than that
[19:11] <chesedo> or silent
[19:11]  * inetpro always getting confused with a vs an
[19:12] <nsnzero> sfd -> Super Fun Disco ?
[19:12] <chesedo> ok, there was me theblaze and gremble if i am correct (will the names be needed?)
[19:12] <chesedo> nsnzero: Software Freedom Day
[19:12] <inetpro> a unicorn vs an umbrella 
[19:13] <inetpro> Afrikaans is baie eenvoudiger as Ingels
[19:13] <chesedo> hey fly and frogs also helped with DebConf earlier this year
[19:13] <Kilos> nsnzero software freedom day
[19:13] <inetpro> chesedo: don't think we need names
[19:14] <Kilos> oops
[19:14] <inetpro> but can't hurt if you have them
[19:14] <Kilos> oh nyes add it superfly paddatrapper 
[19:14] <Kilos> s/nyes/yes
[19:14] <inetpro> anyway... I had a long day with way too many meetings
[19:15]  * inetpro calling it a day
[19:15] <chesedo> np inetpro 
[19:15] <inetpro> good night
[19:15] <chesedo> night
[19:15] <nsnzero> dont use names rather use 'members' sounds like better attendance / participation
[19:15] <nsnzero> inetpro: take care and rest well
[19:16] <Kilos> night inetpro 
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: alles van die beste daar
[19:16] <Kilos> i go crash too guys
[19:16] <Kilos> dankie boetie
[19:17] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:18] <nsnzero> Kilos-:night night 
[19:19] <nsnzero> chesedo: i have tried kali , but i didnt find it very educational and all antiviruses nowdays blocks the 'attacks'
[19:21] <nsnzero> chesedo: the most versatile tool i have found is netcat . just need to make a dropper for it
[19:24] <chesedo> nsnzero: great suggestion thanks
[19:25] <chesedo> nsnzero: that browser was the best tool for me
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[19:26] <chesedo> although i have not done anything yet
[19:27] <Kilos-> night from here as well. be good guys
[19:27] <nsnzero> chesedo: thanks for the info
[19:29]  * nsnzero THIS IS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY NO COMPUTERS HAVE BEEN HARMED
[19:36] <nsnzero> guys it been a pleasure chatting to one and all - but the bed is calling - good night 
[19:36] <chesedo> night nsnzero