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viewer|39947 | hello, could some one please tell me, where or how to find the (Package Installer) in Kubuntu 16.10 | 01:26 |
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valorie | it's called muon | 01:28 |
valorie | the gui frontend to apt on the commandline | 01:28 |
valorie | viewer|39947: if you type alt+space and type muon, you can select it | 01:28 |
valorie | or use your K menu | 01:29 |
viewer|39947 | it is not working, I type muon in run command and nothing apears | 01:30 |
valorie | oh, perhaps you don't have it installed | 01:31 |
valorie | you can use discover, I guess -- it is installed by default | 01:32 |
valorie | so type discover instead | 01:32 |
* valorie goes off to get some dinner | 01:32 | |
viewer|39947 | maybe, I'm new at this, I just installed kubuntu, and I have no idea, what I am doing, I a treully ppreciate your help | 01:33 |
viewer|39947 | I had try to install, (Opera) thru discover, but it doesn't show it, | 01:34 |
valorie | hmmm | 01:36 |
valorie | !info opera | 01:36 |
ubottu | Package opera does not exist in yakkety | 01:36 |
viewer|39947 | I downloaded opera, and I"m trying to install it, | 01:37 |
valorie | oh, from an outside source? | 01:37 |
valorie | 1. not a good idea | 01:37 |
viewer|39947 | from Operas wedsite | 01:37 |
valorie | 2. I don't know how to do that | 01:37 |
valorie | I have no clue | 01:37 |
valorie | it's not a good idea to install anything outside of the archive | 01:38 |
valorie | unless you know what you are doing | 01:39 |
viewer|39947 | ok, tank you | 01:39 |
viewer|39947 | and nope, I have no clue about kubuntu | 01:39 |
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viewer|39947 | well, thank you all for your help | 01:42 |
viewer|39947 | have a nice night | 01:42 |
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hateball | I wonder when Chromium will get updated.... even Debian has newer packages | 07:15 |
hateball | Even CentOS xD | 07:15 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:17 |
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yossarianuk | I've noticed the adobe-flash plugin (for firefox) was bumped from 11.2.x -> 24 today - is anyone else getting constant segfaults from it ? | 14:26 |
hateball | hmmm, I have 23alpha on my 16.04 install and that seemed to work at least. as well as flash works | 14:29 |
hateball | have not tested 24 yet | 14:29 |
BluesKaj | the new flashj p[lugin installed , but it's not working very well here | 14:31 |
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yossarianuk | for me I use it to listen to bbc radio and it randomly crashes frequently, the old version was stable (as can be) | 14:32 |
yossarianuk | plugin-containe[8061]: segfault at 3694395873c4 ip 00007f526c1ff412 sp 00007ffe9f0a09d8 error 6 in libflashplayer.so[7f526bb8e000+107a000] | 14:32 |
mgolden_ | Taking forever to download too | 14:32 |
BluesKaj | yossarianuk, no segfaulkts, but a lot of stuttering | 14:32 |
mgolden_ | Problem is, you can't not run the latest flash no matter what is wrong with it | 14:32 |
yossarianuk | v24 is the latest version | 14:34 |
yossarianuk | is the mms.cfg still used for flash plugin ? | 14:43 |
gvandeweyer | Hi, I'm using kubuntu 16.10 on a dell laptop with docking station. My monitor setup is <ext1><ext2><laptop>, but every time I connect to the dock, I have to move the laptop from the left (default) to the right end of the monitor list | 14:46 |
gvandeweyer | also, monitors are not deactivated on docking disconnect. Am I missing something to save the display configuration & enable automatic screen updates on (dis)connect ? | 14:47 |
gvandeweyer | a workaround would be to have the mouse 'wrap around', if I move out of the right edge of the rightmost monitor, i'll end up on the left side of the left-most monitor. is this possible somehow? | 14:48 |
yossarianuk | gvandeweyer: likely the issue is fixed in Plasma 5.8.x | 14:56 |
yossarianuk | my only issue with kubuntu is not having latest plasma... it means running a desktop with known bugs in most of which will never be fixed in 16.10 lifetime (apart from when the backports PPA releases plasma5.8) | 14:57 |
gvandeweyer | yossarianuk: so currently I can't upgrade to plasma 5.8 ? | 15:00 |
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yossarianuk | gvandeweyer: nope | 15:05 |
gvandeweyer | bummer... | 15:05 |
yossarianuk | I have it on my neon install and it is better... | 15:05 |
yossarianuk | and a few serious issues fixed | 15:05 |
gvandeweyer | ok. there seem to be some backport ppa's already: http://sourcedigit.com/21009-install-kde-plasma-5-8-on-ubuntu-16-04-and-linux-mint/ | 15:09 |
gvandeweyer | maybe I'll try them later | 15:09 |
yossarianuk | gvandeweyer: the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports repo only has plasma 5.6.5 for 16.04 (nothing for 16.10 yet) | 15:12 |
gvandeweyer | ah, didn't notice that | 15:13 |
yossarianuk | but it will come out soon I imagine | 15:13 |
yossarianuk | I was told after packages were built for 17.04 | 15:14 |
genii | Stuff doesn't usually get backported to interim releases with short support cycles, usually just to LTS | 15:14 |
acheronuk | http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-and-linux-mint-doing-plasma-5-8-testing/ | 15:15 |
acheronuk | so plasma 5.8 updates for 16.04 and 16.10 have been done, and can be tested if you are prepared to be a guinea pig | 15:18 |
gvandeweyer | acheronuk: how stable are these in this stage? | 15:20 |
gvandeweyer | no problem in testing if they are in final beta stage | 15:20 |
acheronuk | well, obviously the point in testing is that we want people to help find potential issues that may exist | 15:23 |
acheronuk | that does not mean that they will, but there are no guarantees | 15:24 |
gvandeweyer | it's past alpha then? | 15:24 |
gvandeweyer | fine, I'll give it a shot later this week! | 15:25 |
acheronuk | I've been using our plasma 5.8 packages from staging in 17.04 for quite a while now, and seems stable on my systems | 15:25 |
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acheronuk | but as always, you may have an issue with your graphics/hardware, as you can't test on everything | 15:25 |
gvandeweyer | ofcourse, and I'm happy to help there. | 15:26 |
gvandeweyer | I'm typically on beta-releases for kernels as well, as I'm still hoping my fingerprint/cardreaders will get supported | 15:26 |
gvandeweyer | :-) | 15:26 |
yossarianuk | yey - looks like the 375 nvidia driver will be useable -> http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-375.26-Released | 15:48 |
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yossarianuk | just need the ppa to be updated now. | 15:51 |
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user|30484 | Schönen guten Abend alle anwesenden... | 18:08 |
user|30484 | ist zufällig jemand vom Kubuntu on ? | 18:09 |
user|30484 | naja, wie dem auch sei, habe da etwas neues für alle -> Kubuntu ist nicht SICHER im Internet. hatte soeben einen Bios-Write etc... ganz toll sowas, denn man vermittelt den Verbrauchern, dass Kubuntu Sicher sei | 18:12 |
Smurphy | pfff ... | 18:29 |
elichai2 | hey | 19:43 |
elichai2 | I want to install KDE Plasma 5.8 on my ubuntu | 19:43 |
elichai2 | I tried installing via kubuntu-backport ppa but it installed KDE 5.2.X | 19:43 |
acheronuk | elichai2: the backports ppa has plasma 5.6.5 for Xenial. 5.2.X will be the KDE applications version for whatever you are looking at, which is a different numbering scheme to plasma | 19:48 |
acheronuk | plasma 5.8.4 is in testing | 19:48 |
elichai2 | acheronuk, ohh, I checked the version by running `knosole --version` and it told me the KDE version (I think 5.23) | 19:49 |
acheronuk | elichai2: 'plasmashell -v' tell you the plasma desktop version | 19:50 |
elichai2 | if i'll upgrade my system to Yakkety will it change anything? (I currently have Xenial) | 19:50 |
elichai2 | (I mean, will I get a better version) | 19:50 |
acheronuk | Yakkety has plasma 5.7.5. better, but still not the new and shiny plasma 5.8 | 19:50 |
acheronuk | plasma 5.8 has to be provided in backports when it is ready | 19:51 |
elichai2 | ohh, so maybe i'll test KDE on another distro (on VM) | 19:51 |
acheronuk | as it was released to late to go into Yakkey by default | 19:51 |
elichai2 | I just got tired of my Unity and I want something new and shinny and I liked how the Plasma looks in screenshots | 19:52 |
steve-_-1 | is there a release date for discover 5.8? | 19:52 |
acheronuk | well, we have 5.8 in our backeports-landing ppa for testers | 19:52 |
acheronuk | see: http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-and-linux-mint-doing-plasma-5-8-testing/ | 19:53 |
steve-_-1 | acheronuk: so I guess the question is when 5.8 will hit stable | 19:53 |
acheronuk | steve-_-1: when we are confident it has been tested enough | 19:53 |
steve-_-1 | so no release date atm | 19:54 |
steve-_-1 | hm ok | 19:54 |
acheronuk | giving ETAs too often comes back to bite you on the backside | 19:54 |
steve-_-1 | so if I rephrase and ask weeks or months? | 19:54 |
steve-_-1 | acheronuk: yes totally understand that | 19:55 |
elichai2 | steve-_-1, good QA will answer years. | 19:55 |
steve-_-1 | just curious if it's close or far away. if it's far away I will try to use that testing thing | 19:55 |
steve-_-1 | really? | 19:55 |
steve-_-1 | how is that? | 19:55 |
acheronuk | it would be nice to have it ready for Xmas and give everyone a nice shiny plasma present! | 19:55 |
elichai2 | so they won't promise anyone anything | 19:55 |
elichai2 | lol | 19:55 |
steve-_-1 | oh well. so if I add that ppa will that change general version to some testing branch or is this for discover only? | 19:56 |
acheronuk | but as with these things, you think they are ready, and testers turn up a load of bugs. | 19:56 |
acheronuk | discover or plasma? | 19:56 |
steve-_-1 | I am only interesting in getting discover 5.8 since it fixes a bug I am seeing w current stable | 19:57 |
acheronuk | discover is problematic on any branch, as it is a very much a WIP at the moment, and ubuntu's appream data it uses to find package info does not seem to be the greatest | 19:58 |
acheronuk | hence even the latest version fails to find certain stuff, like VLC and some other apps | 19:59 |
steve-_-1 | so what is the best way to manage installed software / updates in kde? | 19:59 |
steve-_-1 | or kubuntu | 19:59 |
steve-_-1 | for dummies like myself looking for a UI solution | 19:59 |
acheronuk | well, personally I use synaptic | 20:00 |
acheronuk | it's gtk, and a bit old and creaky, but it just works! | 20:00 |
steve-_-1 | hm, I find this all very confusing. so discover is the new default from what I understand? | 20:00 |
steve-_-1 | muon is gone | 20:00 |
acheronuk | muon is not gone. | 20:01 |
acheronuk | 'sudo apt-get install muon' | 20:01 |
steve-_-1 | so there's three solutions or more I yet have to find one that works reliably. muon had the last update check … milliseconds ago bug | 20:02 |
steve-_-1 | discover does not display file size of files to be downloaded | 20:02 |
steve-_-1 | wouldn't it be good to concentrate efforts and have one working solution? | 20:02 |
steve-_-1 | but maybe that's not how linux works | 20:02 |
steve-_-1 | uedLWP | 20:03 |
steve-_-1 | arg wrong window | 20:03 |
steve-_-1 | ok, let'S just wait for 5.8 and hope that that version works a bit more reliably | 20:04 |
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[Relic] | don't forget when you check with discover and install anything the whole thing just doesn't respond when it is updating the package tables and shows no progress | 20:14 |
_Wens_ | hi! will be update qt to 5.6.2 version in yakkety? | 20:21 |
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N0Lif3 | I have the Bluetooth background service disabled, but from time to time I keep seeing the bluetooth symbol showing that it's being powered on my taskbar | 22:13 |
valorie | if you have the applet installed, perhaps it's starting it up automatically? | 22:17 |
valorie | I have one, and if I hover over it, it says no connected devices | 22:19 |
N0Lif3 | when I click it, it will have the checkbox full meaning it's "Powered" | 22:21 |
N0Lif3 | I'm on a laptop, so I want to keep it off to conserve battery life | 22:21 |
valorie | when I click the applet, it's got a little box that I can click to turn it off | 22:25 |
valorie | to the right are the settings | 22:25 |
valorie | when I turn it off in the settings, the applet icon disappears to the "hidden icons" area | 22:29 |
valorie | the little pyramid shape | 22:29 |
N0Lif3 | yea, that's where it is now | 22:31 |
N0Lif3 | do you pronounce Kubuntu "KOO BOON TOO" or "Kay ooo boon too?" | 22:31 |
valorie | I do the first | 22:32 |
valorie | but some do the second | 22:32 |
valorie | it's all good | 22:32 |
valorie | actually: koo bun too | 22:33 |
valorie | I rarely yell it | 22:33 |
valorie | lol | 22:33 |
Dragnslcr | I do the second | 22:40 |
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