=== donnguyen-away is now known as donnguyen === donnguyen is now known as donnguyen-away === julian is now known as Guest32352 === donnguyen-away is now known as donnguyen [01:26] hello, could some one please tell me, where or how to find the (Package Installer) in Kubuntu 16.10 [01:28] it's called muon [01:28] the gui frontend to apt on the commandline [01:28] viewer|39947: if you type alt+space and type muon, you can select it [01:29] or use your K menu [01:30] it is not working, I type muon in run command and nothing apears [01:31] oh, perhaps you don't have it installed [01:32] you can use discover, I guess -- it is installed by default [01:32] so type discover instead [01:32] * valorie goes off to get some dinner [01:33] maybe, I'm new at this, I just installed kubuntu, and I have no idea, what I am doing, I a treully ppreciate your help [01:34] I had try to install, (Opera) thru discover, but it doesn't show it, [01:36] hmmm [01:36] !info opera [01:36] Package opera does not exist in yakkety [01:37] I downloaded opera, and I"m trying to install it, [01:37] oh, from an outside source? [01:37] 1. not a good idea [01:37] from Operas wedsite [01:37] 2. I don't know how to do that [01:37] I have no clue [01:38] it's not a good idea to install anything outside of the archive [01:39] unless you know what you are doing [01:39] ok, tank you [01:39] and nope, I have no clue about kubuntu === donnguyen is now known as donnguyen-away [01:42] well, thank you all for your help [01:42] have a nice night === donnguyen-away is now known as donnguyen === donnguyen is now known as donnguyen-away === stevendale is now known as retroispresto [07:15] I wonder when Chromium will get updated.... even Debian has newer packages [07:15] Even CentOS xD === cal is now known as Guest66723 [12:17] Hiyas all === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ === morgan_ is now known as yossarianuk === joachim is now known as Guest27420 [14:26] I've noticed the adobe-flash plugin (for firefox) was bumped from 11.2.x -> 24 today - is anyone else getting constant segfaults from it ? [14:29] hmmm, I have 23alpha on my 16.04 install and that seemed to work at least. as well as flash works [14:29] have not tested 24 yet [14:31] the new flashj p[lugin installed , but it's not working very well here === test is now known as Guest72480 [14:32] for me I use it to listen to bbc radio and it randomly crashes frequently, the old version was stable (as can be) [14:32] plugin-containe[8061]: segfault at 3694395873c4 ip 00007f526c1ff412 sp 00007ffe9f0a09d8 error 6 in libflashplayer.so[7f526bb8e000+107a000] [14:32] Taking forever to download too [14:32] yossarianuk, no segfaulkts, but a lot of stuttering [14:32] Problem is, you can't not run the latest flash no matter what is wrong with it [14:34] v24 is the latest version [14:43] is the mms.cfg still used for flash plugin ? [14:46] Hi, I'm using kubuntu 16.10 on a dell laptop with docking station. My monitor setup is , but every time I connect to the dock, I have to move the laptop from the left (default) to the right end of the monitor list [14:47] also, monitors are not deactivated on docking disconnect. Am I missing something to save the display configuration & enable automatic screen updates on (dis)connect ? [14:48] a workaround would be to have the mouse 'wrap around', if I move out of the right edge of the rightmost monitor, i'll end up on the left side of the left-most monitor. is this possible somehow? [14:56] gvandeweyer: likely the issue is fixed in Plasma 5.8.x [14:57] my only issue with kubuntu is not having latest plasma... it means running a desktop with known bugs in most of which will never be fixed in 16.10 lifetime (apart from when the backports PPA releases plasma5.8) [15:00] yossarianuk: so currently I can't upgrade to plasma 5.8 ? === fa is now known as vo1pbx [15:05] gvandeweyer: nope [15:05] bummer... [15:05] I have it on my neon install and it is better... [15:05] and a few serious issues fixed [15:09] ok. there seem to be some backport ppa's already: http://sourcedigit.com/21009-install-kde-plasma-5-8-on-ubuntu-16-04-and-linux-mint/ [15:09] maybe I'll try them later [15:12] gvandeweyer: the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports repo only has plasma 5.6.5 for 16.04 (nothing for 16.10 yet) [15:13] ah, didn't notice that [15:13] but it will come out soon I imagine [15:14] I was told after packages were built for 17.04 [15:14] Stuff doesn't usually get backported to interim releases with short support cycles, usually just to LTS [15:15] http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-and-linux-mint-doing-plasma-5-8-testing/ [15:18] so plasma 5.8 updates for 16.04 and 16.10 have been done, and can be tested if you are prepared to be a guinea pig [15:20] acheronuk: how stable are these in this stage? [15:20] no problem in testing if they are in final beta stage [15:23] well, obviously the point in testing is that we want people to help find potential issues that may exist [15:24] that does not mean that they will, but there are no guarantees [15:24] it's past alpha then? [15:25] fine, I'll give it a shot later this week! [15:25] I've been using our plasma 5.8 packages from staging in 17.04 for quite a while now, and seems stable on my systems === AlexandruRC is now known as Darredevil [15:25] but as always, you may have an issue with your graphics/hardware, as you can't test on everything [15:26] ofcourse, and I'm happy to help there. [15:26] I'm typically on beta-releases for kernels as well, as I'm still hoping my fingerprint/cardreaders will get supported [15:26] :-) [15:48] yey - looks like the 375 nvidia driver will be useable -> http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-375.26-Released === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [15:51] just need the ppa to be updated now. === pavlushka is now known as The_Doctorman === The_Doctorman is now known as pavlushka === donnguyen-away is now known as donnguyen === donnguyen is now known as donnguyen-away [18:08] Schönen guten Abend alle anwesenden... [18:09] ist zufällig jemand vom Kubuntu on ? [18:12] naja, wie dem auch sei, habe da etwas neues für alle -> Kubuntu ist nicht SICHER im Internet. hatte soeben einen Bios-Write etc... ganz toll sowas, denn man vermittelt den Verbrauchern, dass Kubuntu Sicher sei [18:29] pfff ... [19:43] hey [19:43] I want to install KDE Plasma 5.8 on my ubuntu [19:43] I tried installing via kubuntu-backport ppa but it installed KDE 5.2.X [19:48] elichai2: the backports ppa has plasma 5.6.5 for Xenial. 5.2.X will be the KDE applications version for whatever you are looking at, which is a different numbering scheme to plasma [19:48] plasma 5.8.4 is in testing [19:49] acheronuk, ohh, I checked the version by running `knosole --version` and it told me the KDE version (I think 5.23) [19:50] elichai2: 'plasmashell -v' tell you the plasma desktop version [19:50] if i'll upgrade my system to Yakkety will it change anything? (I currently have Xenial) [19:50] (I mean, will I get a better version) [19:50] Yakkety has plasma 5.7.5. better, but still not the new and shiny plasma 5.8 [19:51] plasma 5.8 has to be provided in backports when it is ready [19:51] ohh, so maybe i'll test KDE on another distro (on VM) [19:51] as it was released to late to go into Yakkey by default [19:52] I just got tired of my Unity and I want something new and shinny and I liked how the Plasma looks in screenshots [19:52] is there a release date for discover 5.8? [19:52] well, we have 5.8 in our backeports-landing ppa for testers [19:53] see: http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-and-linux-mint-doing-plasma-5-8-testing/ [19:53] acheronuk: so I guess the question is when 5.8 will hit stable [19:53] steve-_-1: when we are confident it has been tested enough [19:54] so no release date atm [19:54] hm ok [19:54] giving ETAs too often comes back to bite you on the backside [19:54] so if I rephrase and ask weeks or months? [19:55] acheronuk: yes totally understand that [19:55] steve-_-1, good QA will answer years. [19:55] just curious if it's close or far away. if it's far away I will try to use that testing thing [19:55] really? [19:55] how is that? [19:55] it would be nice to have it ready for Xmas and give everyone a nice shiny plasma present! [19:55] so they won't promise anyone anything [19:55] lol [19:56] oh well. so if I add that ppa will that change general version to some testing branch or is this for discover only? [19:56] but as with these things, you think they are ready, and testers turn up a load of bugs. [19:56] discover or plasma? [19:57] I am only interesting in getting discover 5.8 since it fixes a bug I am seeing w current stable [19:58] discover is problematic on any branch, as it is a very much a WIP at the moment, and ubuntu's appream data it uses to find package info does not seem to be the greatest [19:59] hence even the latest version fails to find certain stuff, like VLC and some other apps [19:59] so what is the best way to manage installed software / updates in kde? [19:59] or kubuntu [19:59] for dummies like myself looking for a UI solution [20:00] well, personally I use synaptic [20:00] it's gtk, and a bit old and creaky, but it just works! [20:00] hm, I find this all very confusing. so discover is the new default from what I understand? [20:00] muon is gone [20:01] muon is not gone. [20:01] 'sudo apt-get install muon' [20:02] so there's three solutions or more I yet have to find one that works reliably. muon had the last update check … milliseconds ago bug [20:02] discover does not display file size of files to be downloaded [20:02] wouldn't it be good to concentrate efforts and have one working solution? [20:02] but maybe that's not how linux works [20:03] uedLWP [20:03] arg wrong window [20:04] ok, let'S just wait for 5.8 and hope that that version works a bit more reliably === Guest34309 is now known as IO [20:14] <[Relic]> don't forget when you check with discover and install anything the whole thing just doesn't respond when it is updating the package tables and shows no progress [20:21] <_Wens_> hi! will be update qt to 5.6.2 version in yakkety? === alket_ is now known as alket === IO is now known as IdleOne === julian is now known as Guest15454 [22:13] I have the Bluetooth background service disabled, but from time to time I keep seeing the bluetooth symbol showing that it's being powered on my taskbar [22:17] if you have the applet installed, perhaps it's starting it up automatically? [22:19] I have one, and if I hover over it, it says no connected devices [22:21] when I click it, it will have the checkbox full meaning it's "Powered" [22:21] I'm on a laptop, so I want to keep it off to conserve battery life [22:25] when I click the applet, it's got a little box that I can click to turn it off [22:25] to the right are the settings [22:29] when I turn it off in the settings, the applet icon disappears to the "hidden icons" area [22:29] the little pyramid shape [22:31] yea, that's where it is now [22:31] do you pronounce Kubuntu "KOO BOON TOO" or "Kay ooo boon too?" [22:32] I do the first [22:32] but some do the second [22:32] it's all good [22:33] actually: koo bun too [22:33] I rarely yell it [22:33] lol [22:40] I do the second === nickgeoca is now known as linman === morpheus is now known as NEOTRIX