[08:51] <willcooke> morning all
[08:52] <willcooke> well, what's left of us
[08:54] <didrocks> the last of us? (2)
[08:54] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[09:01]  * desrt is here
[09:02] <willcooke> morning desrt, didrocks
[09:02] <didrocks> hey desrt!
[09:03] <desrt> quiet day :)
[09:04] <desrt> or quiet rest-of-the-year, probably
[09:04] <willcooke> hope so :)
[09:05] <desrt> lol
[09:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:06] <davmor2> willcooke, desrt: that's just wishful thinking
[09:06] <willcooke> we live in hope
[09:10] <davmor2> willcooke: hope is for the weak, do or do not, that is the way of the force ;)
[09:12] <willcooke> :D
[09:17] <flexiondotorg> Morning willcooke didrocks desrt davmor2
[09:17] <willcooke> howdy flexiondotorg
[09:18] <flexiondotorg> o/
[09:19] <flexiondotorg> Is seb128 still about or en vacances?
[09:19] <didrocks> hey flexiondotorg!
[09:19] <didrocks> seb will be back soon, he had an appointment
[09:20] <flexiondotorg> OK.
[09:21] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I've been talking to the Nuvola Player dev. He's filed a couple of bugs as a result of starting to snap it.
[09:22] <flexiondotorg> Wondered if you've encountered anything like this?
[09:22] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1648988
[09:22] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1648988 in Snappy "Unable to fork a new WebProcess: Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/webkit2gtk-4.0/WebKitNetworkProcess" (No such file or directory)." [Undecided,New]
[09:23] <flexiondotorg> They are out of free time for a bit, but will try building WebKit as a source part.
[09:24] <flexiondotorg> I was wondering if there are any other quick workarounds you might have seen?
[09:25] <didrocks> working in devmode?
[09:25] <flexiondotorg> No.
[09:26] <flexiondotorg> They started with a confined snap and I had them change that.
[09:27] <flexiondotorg> This is their snap - https://github.com/fenryxo/nuvola-snap
[09:27] <flexiondotorg> Which is all hooked up in LP with Git mirroring and snap building.
[09:27] <flexiondotorg> I'm considering making a remote part for WebKit.
[09:28] <didrocks> I guess you will have to debug the exact failure with gdb in process thus
[09:34] <flexiondotorg> Yeah, I was hoping to avoid that :-)
[09:34] <flexiondotorg> OK.
[09:35]  * flexiondotorg leaves for the coffee shop to meet Lightworks about snaps
[09:57] <seb128> hey willcooke flexiondotorg didrocks
[09:58] <seb128> sorry had an appointment at 10
[09:58] <didrocks> re seb128
[09:58] <seb128> I'm back now
[10:46] <Sweet5hark> moin
[10:47] <Sweet5hark> last days before vacation and someone puts my name on a regression. :/
[10:47] <ricotz> hello desktopers
[10:56] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, I am currently uploading 5.2.4~rc2
[10:57] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark ricotz
[10:57] <seb128> Sweet5hark, btw what's the status of 5.1.6 for xenial? there are some users asking about that
[11:00] <Sweet5hark> seb128: yeah, seen that. its in https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-1 and currently no major problems known with it.
[11:00] <seb128> SRU before holidays? ;-)
[11:02] <Sweet5hark> seb128: meh. Currently at "getting 5.3beta snap before hols".
[11:04] <seb128> that seems important as well :-)
[11:04] <seb128> today has 30 hours though so it's ok right? ;-)
[12:46] <jcastro> Sweet5hark: I have to admit, I've started to use LO more and more now that I get a fresh version.
[12:46]  * jcastro is old and boring so always on the LTS
[13:16] <seb128> jcastro, you didn't use the lts version because of bugs?
[13:17] <seb128> you don't start using something you don't need just because it's getting updates, or do you? ;-)
[13:20] <ricotz> and it is not like there were no update possibilities before ;)
[13:22] <jcastro> seb128: it's just that as the LTS got older than 6 months upstream's improvements outpaced the older version.
[13:22] <jcastro> ricotz: yeah but I'm trying to live a ppa-free life. :D
[13:23] <seb128> jcastro, k, you probably do more fancy things that me, I mostly open/edit simple documents and the LTS version does the job pretty nicely for those ;-)
[13:24] <jcastro> yeah, there's a kind of peace of mind there too tbh. Like knowing if I set it up for someone they'll always have the newest version of the app, but on a stable OS.
[13:25] <jcastro> not that I'm doing that with snaps yet
[13:26] <seb128> but yeah I like snaps for that as well
[13:28] <jcastro> now we just need vlc updated, heh.
[13:29] <seb128> I though it was updated this week (at least in the edge channel)?
[13:29] <jcastro> really? /me checks
[13:31] <jcastro> there was a newish command to see what versions are in what channels
[13:32] <jcastro> `snap info vlc`, but it's for snapd 2.18 and xenial is still on 2.17
[13:41] <jcastro> seb128: you're right, it's a 3.0.x git version, which appears to be a devel release
[13:41] <jcastro> it crashes on launch, but at least it's up there, heh.
[13:42] <seb128> jcastro, yeah that was mentioned as well, I though it would maybe have been fixed by now
[13:49]  * flexiondotorg is returned
[14:11] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg
[14:11] <seb128> flexiondotorg, I was waiting for you to be back to reply to your earlier comment
[14:11] <seb128> that looks like a webkit relocation issue, not a bug in snapcraft or snappy
[14:11] <seb128> I don't see an easy workaround
[14:26] <flexiondotorg> seb128, Thanks.
[14:26] <seb128> yw
[14:26] <flexiondotorg> Yeah, I think so too but was hoping I was wrong :-)
[14:26] <seb128> the think is that webkit is built with prefix=/usr
[14:26] <seb128> thing
[14:26] <seb128> so it looks there for the helper
[14:27] <Sweet5hark> jcastro: heh, yeah
[14:43] <Sweet5hark> jcastro: fwiw, LibreOffice 3.5 on precise was one of the better releases but is ancient and is expected to be painful. LibreOffice 4.2 on trusty wasnt a too good release in the first place. LibreOffice 5.1 on xenial is still a decent release IMHO (from a core point-of-view, since 5.x we started caring more about cleaning up the UI -- which, while less mission criticial, is more visible to users)
[17:57] <willcooke> night all