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lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:32 |
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Bashing-om | o/ lotuspsychje ; May your day be blessed with warmth and sunshine :) | 04:37 |
lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om tnx :p | 04:38 |
lotuspsychje | i watched snowden the movie yesterday | 04:38 |
lotuspsychje | nice piece of work | 04:38 |
Bashing-om | Do not do much TV'n myself, what brought snowden to your attention ? | 04:40 |
lotuspsychje | was reading an article what motivated oliver stone to make this movie | 04:41 |
lotuspsychje | its a crazy story | 04:44 |
Bashing-om | Yeah ,, Oliver Stone has done some great works . Now my interest is piqued . | 04:45 |
lotuspsychje | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden | 04:45 |
lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/edward-snowden-oliver-stone-and-big-brother-a7389226.html | 04:55 |
Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Yeah - got my interest :) good reads . | 04:58 |
Bashing-om | Good night Good Folks | 07:13 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:18 |
EriC^^ | !ping | 15:32 |
ubot5` | pong! | 15:32 |
OerHeks | 1-0 | 15:36 |
EriC^^ | :D | 15:40 |
nicomach1s | why doesn't pip update through apt? | 15:42 |
nicomach1s | every time I try to install something with pip (every coupla months or so) I get "you're using version blahblah, but version blahblah.1 is availabe. please update with pip install --update pip" | 15:42 |
nicomach1s | and then there's pip3 and all those fun variations of everything | 15:43 |
daftykins | i don't even know why that thing has to exist | 15:46 |
daftykins | yet another example of the mess of inconsistency that is Loonix | 15:46 |
lordievader | Because pip is distro independent? | 15:46 |
OerHeks | would be nice, pip hook to apt | 15:48 |
nicomach1s | I think I'm with daftykins. Having to use pip at all is kinda pointless. would be much easier to just install python programs with apt | 15:50 |
lordievader | Sure, but not everything is in apt. | 15:53 |
nacc | which is why pip exists | 15:56 |
nacc | and all the other per-language package managers | 15:56 |
nacc | and then once pip exists, they stop trying to get their stuff into the distro | 15:56 |
nacc | it becomes a bit of a loop | 15:56 |
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nicomach1s | a universal package manager should be... univeral. | 16:00 |
nacc | well apt is, presuming, the packages exist int he archive | 16:01 |
nacc | it can't know about stuff it ... doesn't know about :) | 16:01 |
nacc | also, i hate the idea that one tool should solve every problem, it tends to lead to corner cases and bugs | 16:01 |
nacc | and bloat :/ | 16:01 |
nacc | apt also can't, without kludges, install without proper permissions; i believe pip can | 16:02 |
OerHeks | pip without sudo goes to the user environment, indeed | 16:02 |
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daftykins | just another hurdle to learning i'm afraid | 16:06 |
nacc | also, the barrier to entry in debian/ubuntu is higher than in pip -- so cutting edge stuff tends to be in pip | 16:07 |
daftykins | well i have one example i encountered it in, grabbing the get_iplayer script which is packaged, but out of date so as to be non-functional - i'd not encountered pip before so had no idea | 16:10 |
daftykins | 'nough said ;) | 16:11 |
nicomach1s | I just used it to install something called rtv. don't remember the last time I used it before that. | 16:13 |
nacc | daftykins: package name? | 16:14 |
daftykins | sorry, can't spare the time right now | 16:16 |
daftykins | gotta make some calls :) | 16:16 |
nacc | daftykins: np | 16:16 |
nacc | daftykins: i'm happy to help (if i can) at least get that fixed/updated, in the future, just ping me | 16:16 |
pauljw | Hi everyone | 16:49 |
EriC^^ | hi pauljw | 16:51 |
pauljw | hey EriC^^ how's things? | 16:51 |
EriC^^ | pauljw: good thanks, you? | 16:52 |
pauljw | EriC^^, doing well, thanks. :) | 16:52 |
EriC^^ | :) | 16:53 |
EriC^^ | dnssoul: hey | 18:57 |
EriC^^ | Je peux aider | 18:57 |
EriC^^ | j'utilise Google Traduction | 18:57 |
EriC^^ | Je connais un peu de français, je suis libanais | 18:58 |
OerHeks | une deux mille | 18:59 |
EriC^^ | zut! | 19:01 |
nicomach1s | !fr | 19:08 |
ubot5` | Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 19:08 |
nicomach1s | :P | 19:08 |
daftykins | any of you guys ever deal with quirky LCDs on Lenovos? specifically got an X240 with a vertical band in the middle that's misbehaving | 19:09 |
daftykins | upping a video right now | 19:09 |
EriC^^ | ugh | 19:25 |
EriC^^ | lenovo | 19:25 |
EriC^^ | the one i got had some backlight leaking | 19:25 |
EriC^^ | on the sides | 19:25 |
daftykins | ah yeah | 19:28 |
daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/c6mogup89751hjf/VID_20161214_190821.mp4?dl=0 | 19:28 |
EriC^^ | man my isp is killing me | 19:29 |
EriC^^ | they made it $10 less and now the ping sucks ass, 340ms goes up to 2000-3000ms at times | 19:30 |
daftykins | :( | 19:32 |
daftykins | nasty jitter | 19:32 |
daftykins | looks like it's a new panel time only - but that's fine because i can upgrade it to a 1080p for £45 :) | 19:32 |
EriC^^ | nice | 19:33 |
nicomach1s | EriC^^: wow. how far is that signal traveling?! | 19:33 |
daftykins | hehe, he uses mobile tech | 19:33 |
EriC^^ | yeah i do | 19:33 |
EriC^^ | it used to be pretty low ping though, like 120ms iirc or less | 19:34 |
EriC^^ | 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=114 ms | 19:34 |
EriC^^ | then it'll go to 300ms out of nowhere for a while then jump to 3000 and stuff, i can't use the ps4 with it anymore | 19:35 |
* EriC^^ tries to use the ps4 with it.. let's see | 19:35 | |
EriC^^ | 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=795 ms | 19:36 |
EriC^^ | could it be related? | 19:36 |
EriC^^ | it's back at 100ms now | 19:37 |
daftykins | when i download on my xbox one, there can be some crazy jitter to my desktop machines | 19:37 |
daftykins | i've often wondered if it's something the xbox one does that MS don't consider for those on VDSL lines | 19:37 |
EriC^^ | as soon as i hit the match making it jumps to 1400ms then 700ms | 19:38 |
EriC^^ | it seems definitely related | 19:40 |
EriC^^ | !ping | 19:40 |
ubot5` | pong! | 19:40 |
nicomach1s | daftykins: do you have the right ports open? | 19:40 |
EriC^^ | wow it just stalled, like 10000ms in a row | 19:40 |
daftykins | nicomach1s: you don't have to open ports | 19:40 |
nicomach1s | daftykins: it can help. | 19:41 |
daftykins | no sir | 19:41 |
EriC^^ | must have been some coincidence, just tried and it didn't jump when i pressed the button, earlier it jumped right when i hit it | 19:41 |
nicomach1s | daftykins: 53, 80, 88, 500, 3074, 3544, and 4500 have to be open. Opening 3075 and 3076 can improve matchmaking. | 19:43 |
nicomach1s | UPnP will do it automatically but I prefer a little more precise control. | 19:44 |
daftykins | yeah due to UPnP and NAT-PMP you don't need to open ports :) | 19:44 |
daftykins | appreciate the thought, but it won't impact jitter during downloads from the store or updates etc | 19:44 |
EriC^^ | anybody have a tip for cleaning the usb charger cable connector? | 19:45 |
nicomach1s | isopropyl and q-tips | 19:45 |
daftykins | ^ | 19:45 |
EriC^^ | it fell into a glass of pepsi, and sat there for a while, now it stopped working, so i'm using the ps4 cable to connect the phone to the desktop | 19:45 |
EriC^^ | i tried alcohol on it, it didn't work | 19:45 |
nicomach1s | you can soak the end of it in iso if you think it got gunky up inside of it | 19:46 |
EriC^^ | it fell before in coffee and the alcohol plus after a few day it started working again, no dice this time | 19:46 |
EriC^^ | nicomach1s: i tried that too | 19:46 |
nicomach1s | possible short? idk | 19:46 |
EriC^^ | if i wedge it with my hand upwards it used to work i think | 19:46 |
nicomach1s | sounds like a short | 19:47 |
EriC^^ | yup it does | 19:47 |
EriC^^ | i have to push really hard though | 19:47 |
EriC^^ | i'll try moving the metal stuff inside with a needle | 19:49 |
nicomach1s | unplug it first. lol | 19:49 |
EriC^^ | i was just thinking that | 19:50 |
EriC^^ | :D | 19:50 |
EriC^^ | there's some progress, now it needs just a little push to work | 19:53 |
EriC^^ | does anybody know a way to fix the mmi invalid code on android phones? | 20:00 |
EriC^^ | i keep getting it, i can't check how much internet traffic i have left, i tried adding a "," at the end | 20:01 |
EriC^^ | and the "search for network operator" many times and restarting, it worked once somehow then it stopped again | 20:01 |
daftykins | could be worth nuking the data on the dialer app | 20:05 |
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daftykins | not seen that one but it rings a bell | 20:05 |
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