[00:01] <Calgon> guys how can i register?
[00:01] <Calgon> my name is already registered
[00:01] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: no luck there either. linux indeed doesn't seem to have detected the hard disk drive. you could try this to re-scan the scsi bus: for file in /sys/class/scsi_host/host*/scan; do echo "- - -" > $file; done; dmesg | tail -n30
[00:02] <tomreyn> _28_ria: yes you can do the same with the root file system
[00:03] <squinty> Calgon, ask in #freenode   /join #freenode
[00:03] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: see /var/log/auth.log on the server to find out why other users cannot login
[00:03] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: yields about 10x of bash: /sys/class/scsi_host/host9/scan: Permission denied, then http://paste.ubuntu.com/23626271/
[00:04] <Calgon> ff
[00:04] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: ah sorry, my mistake. you need to run this as root. new command line coming up
[00:05] <bobdobbs> tomreyn: thanks
[00:07] <bobdobbs> tomreyn: failed logins are not generating entries in auth.log
[00:08] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: for file in /sys/class/scsi_host/host*/scan; do echo '- - -' | sudo tee $file >/dev/null; done; dmesg -T | tail -n30
[00:09] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: then your users are connecting to a different system, i would think.
[00:09] <EvilMachine> Hi. I’m looking for a better solution than the slow VNC. What do you guys recommend?
[00:09] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: Yields: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23626283/
[00:10] <EvilMachine> What do you guys use to “remote desktop” into a machine?
[00:11] <EvilMachine> (Linux to Linux btw. VNC is too slow.)
[00:11] <_28_ria> tomreyn: Thanx, it worked, I will put it in the script, called something, like forcediskcheck, where it will find disks in the system and use 2fs commands to force the check on reboot.
[00:11] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: any change in output for lsblk ?
[00:11] <bobdobbs> tomreyn: it's the same system. If I get the failed command from history, and replace my nonroot users name with 'root', the login succeeds
[00:13] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: Negative it is the same as the last time: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23626288/
[00:13] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: the other lines of 'dmesg' output there suggest that your system may be running hot. this could also be why the didks are not detected properly.
[00:13] <syirrus[m]> Hmmm
[00:14] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: do you use some hardware RAID configuration (only relevant if you know what this is)
[00:14] <Bashing-om> SValkyrie: tomreyn I contunue to watch . "SATA link down" and do not see where the hard drive ever comes up . Windows doing something funky ??
[00:14] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: I have noticed while gaming the CPU can reach very hot temperatures 90c -- during other non-intensive tasks it settles around 55c
[00:14] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: Negative
[00:16] <xxxx> how can i delete smuxi?
[00:16] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: i'm not really sure how to interpret the output there other than those links not coming up. it would seem that linux (or actually the bios?) thinks that no devices are connected on any ata channels but 7.
[00:16] <xxxx> it's not installed but !i'm in it
[00:17] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: For what it is worth, last night we swapped over the HDD from IDE to ACHI (i think) but this did not improve the situation
[00:17] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: 90c is definitely too much, you dont want to melt it, do you.
[00:18] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: you swapped ... physically or just in terms of the bios?
[00:18] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: just in the BIOS as was suggested to me.
[00:18] <tomreyn> yes that was a good guess, unfortunately it did not help.
[00:19] <Bashing-om> SValkyrie: Confirm that you are still able to boot up in Windows, and Windows has no issues ??
[00:20] <xxxx> how can i delete smuxi if it's not instaled but i'm in it!?
[00:20] <tomreyn> what i would do now is to fire windows back up, go to the hardware manager and note down the device IDs of all relevant devices. so HDDs / SSDs and storage controllers. maybe also north and south bridge.
[00:20] <SValkyrie> Bashing-om: I have not attempted to re-launch windows since that swap.  I anticipate it will not boot up until I go back into the bios and swap it back to IDE
[00:21] <_28_ria> xxxx: I would install it from apt (first), then delete it from apt
[00:21] <SValkyrie> From my limited reading on the matter today, Windows will not much appreciate the swap.  As I understand it, when Windows is installed it detects how the motherboard is handling the HDD and installs based on this
[00:21] <xxxx> done. nothing
[00:21] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: better return to the old configuration then before oyu try again. also windows might not appreciate this 'hardware change'
[00:21] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: Indeed.
[00:22] <EvilMachine> hello. is tigervnc not supported under ubuntu?
[00:22] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: i should get some sleep, good luck there
[00:22] <smokeyj> EvilMachine, sure it is
[00:23] <james> /x01
[00:23] <EvilMachine> smokeyj: what package do i install?
[00:23] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: sorry i missed to respond earlier. i'm not sure what the issue is there now, sorry. you'd best look into it again with someone else, repeating the issue here.
[00:23] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: Thanks for the effort, I think I may end up just unplugging the HDD and reconnecting it with any of my available SATA connectors to see if this helps.  IT is the only thing that I have found that I have not confirmed success/failure
[00:23] <smokeyj> EvilMachine, so answer that I think a little more information is needed dont you?
[00:23] <smokeyj> And you can easily google that yourselfe
[00:24] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: make sure you have working backups before you change any more configurations.
[00:24] <saramadrid> hello
[00:24] <xxxx> apt done (keyboard problem) thnx!
[00:24] <saramadrid> quick question...
[00:25] <ubuntu153> JOIN#ubuntu
[00:25] <ubuntu153> hi
[00:25] <saramadrid> i have added a second SSD to my box in order to store there some folders of my profile. i've linked the folders, and all is good, but i can't use recycle bin on those files
[00:25] <saramadrid> i created a root folder on that drive .Trash-1000 but its not working...
[00:26] <saramadrid> any help?
[00:26] <EvilMachine> FUUUUU!!! I just removed /home!
[00:26] <EvilMachine> On a remote box
[00:26] <EvilMachine> No backups activated yet
[00:26] <EvilMachine> Please shoot me
[00:26] <saramadrid> and you set the box on fire and killed a kitten?
[00:27] <EvilMachine> saramadrid: i set the box on fire *with* the burning kitten.
[00:27] <smokeyj> EvilMachine, You just made me smile just a little
[00:27] <EvilMachine> the best part is: the remote box’s owner is clueless and will not be able to fix this at all.
[00:28] <EvilMachine> gaah, i also removed ALL her personal files! NOOOOOO
[00:28] <Bashing-om> EvilMachine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ; https://www.linux.com/learn/get-your-data-back-linux-based-data-recovery-tools .
[00:28] <KayliLynn> Hi! Im new:)
[00:28] <KayliLynn> Whats up!
[00:28] <Bashing-om> !manual | KayliLynn
[00:29] <nicomachus> lol
[00:29] <KayliLynn> What is this?
[00:29] <EvilMachine> Bashing-om: The box is 600km from me, and I can’t travel there for personal reasons.
[00:29] <smokeyj> EvilMachine, how much damage?
[00:29] <nicomachus> !ot | KayliLynn
[00:29] <KayliLynn> My computer is fine...
[00:29] <EvilMachine> smokeyj: Well, I just deleted the whole life of a person without a backup.
[00:29] <KayliLynn> i am like so confused...
[00:30] <smokeyj> 1. No back up "Whole life" you kinda have to blame yourself
[00:30] <nicomachus> EvilMachine: Bashing-om linked some data recovery options
[00:30] <saramadrid> asking again:
[00:30] <EvilMachine> smokeyj: This was the one moment between old backups and new backups.
[00:30] <saramadrid> i have added a second SSD to my box in order to store there some folders of my profile. i've linked the folders, and all is good, but i can't use recycle bin on those files
[00:30] <saramadrid> i created a root folder on that drive .Trash-1000 but its not working...
[00:30] <saramadrid> any help?
[00:30] <yangm97> guys, my local ipv6 is not working on ubuntu 16.04
[00:30] <Bashing-om> EvilMachine: I can not say , other than you are between a rock and a hard place . No experience here with a remote file system fix'n .
[00:31] <EvilMachine> Bashing-om: Thank you.
[00:31] <yangm97> I can ping6 google.com but I can't ping6 time-capsule.local
[00:31] <yangm97> or any other ipv6 device on the network
[00:31] <yangm97> how can I fix it?
[00:31] <EvilMachine> Bashing-om: I do have some experiences with advanced tools, including data forcensics software. But I also know that it’s a hell of a lot of work to recover merely deleted files on linux.
[00:33] <Bashing-om> EvilMachine: A  remote possibility : http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ <- extundelete is a utility that can recover deleted files from an ext3 or ext4 partition.
[00:35] <EvilMachine> smokeyj, Bashing-om : The bug happened when I unintentionally cat-ed a binary file. This resulted in the following ”rm /home/” to look like ”rm ”. So I entered “-rf /home/.vnc” to clear out some trash, resulting in ”rm /home/ -rf /home/.vnc”… yay.
[00:35] <EvilMachine> Bashing-om: Thank you for these links.
[00:35] <EvilMachine> Bashing-om: They’re very useful right now.
[00:35] <KayliLynn> --> jooni (~jooni@58.17.01a8.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com) has joined #ubuntu
 smokeyj: Well, I just deleted the whole life of a person without a backup.
[00:35] <KayliLynn> <-- _28_ria has quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
 i am like so confused...
 1. No back up "Whole life" you kinda have to blame yourself
 EvilMachine: Bashing-om linked some data recovery options
[00:39] <X01>  
[00:40] <Bashing-om> EvilMachine: The good thing is so long as the drive is not written to - the data is still there .. just have to relink the files . DO not write to the disk 'till ready for the repair !
[00:41] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: you could use testdisk to restore deleted dirs/files
[00:41] <EvilMachine> Bashing-om: after the rm, I logged out, and now, since no user is left to log in (and ssh is configured to only allow public key auth and not root at all), I can’t even turn the box off. I’m afraid it will have written .bash_history.
[00:42] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: but you should unmount the /home partition, so that no further writes are performed to it before you do testdisk
[00:42] <_28_ria> or anything
[00:42] <EvilMachine> Bashing-om: I will have the owner run the livedvd, ssh in, and try, veeery carefully, to recover things.
[00:43] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: I won’t mount anything, when using the livedvd. Not unless I’m sure I have recovered everything I can.
[00:47] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: As I said, I’ll use testdisk.
[00:47] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: Also, foremost.
[00:47] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: If necessary, even some expensive forensics software.
[00:48] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: ok
[00:48] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: good luck
[00:50] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: in comparison to you, I have a way lesser problem. can't start squid. Suddenly it has access denied to it's cache folder.
[00:50] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: thanks.
[00:50] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: Hmm, done any updates or anything?
[00:51] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: updated a week ago, but just today stopped working
[00:51] <sebboh> I'm using 16.04 and "nothing happens" when I click "Systems Settings..." on the gear/power symbol on the top right of the .. home screen thing.
[00:51] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: was squid restarted?
[00:51] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: is the directory still there, are the rights to the whole path as expected? is the deamon running under these same rights?
[00:52] <sebboh> What application is "System Settings..." supposed to start?  Probably via gtksudo ...
[00:52] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: after being updated, many times, because, I often change config
[00:53] <EvilMachine> YES! The old file system was NTFS, and there is NtfsUndelete!
[00:54] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: So things changed a lot? :) Then at least you know why it doesn’t work.
[00:54] <EvilMachine> :)
[00:54] <ecko> Hello
[00:55] <EvilMachine> _28_ria: I usually re-do the exact steps of the installation, and compare them to what I have. (E.g. diffing config files and comparing directories). But usually it’s faster to just re-install the whole thing and copy the relevant parts over.
[00:55] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: in config, I checked effective group and user - it's 'proxy' all the cache dir and files in it have 'proxy' user and group configured to it. permissions are 660, and dirs 770, including the squid dir's permissions itself. Giving 777 to  cache's squid dir doesn'
[00:55] <_28_ria> t help
[00:55] <dnb_> hey guys, hopefully a quick question.... I have a network interface named "br-80f74e585344" and trying to find out what's creating it, any ideas? My guess is that it's dynamically generated, just no clue where form
[00:55] <ecko> Can anyone help me with a log in problem? It will be much appreciated.
[00:56] <dnb_> ecko: just ask
[00:56] <Bashing-om> !details | ecko
[00:56] <sebboh> I did a `sudo find /var/log -ls > /tmp/log_sizes_before.txt` before clicking on the "Systems Settings..." menu item, and another after, and only one log file got new bytes: /var/log/auth, and that was from sudo (on my find command).  Whatever is going wrong, it's not generating a log entry.  wait maybe in $HOME
[00:56] <tgm4883> dnb_: looks like a bridge. Do you have some sort of virtualization or container software installed?
[00:57] <dnb_> tgm4883: i do, but not sure which is causing it.... i don't want to remove EVERYTHING just to find out, was hoping something like lsof would help, but don't seem to find anything that actually helps
[00:57] <ecko> I try to log in the main account on my computer ( I had to change the password) and it tries to sign in but it goes back to the log in page? What would be the cause of this?
[00:57] <dnb_> tgm4883: docker, virtualbox, vmware, qemu, etc....
[00:57] <_28_ria> I even deleted the cache inside of /var/spool/squid/ and tried to recreate with sudo squid -z, but it just says, that permissions were denied, oddly enough. the /var/log/squid folder and files in it have the same perms, but it doesn't complain about log folder.
[00:58] <dnb_> ecko: can you log in via a PTY?
[00:58] <tgm4883> dnb_: oh my god, why?
[00:58] <wedgie> ecko: do you have an encrypted home directory?
[00:58] <dnb_> PTTY
[00:58] <dnb_> tgm4883: i'm a dev bruh :P
[00:58] <tgm4883> dnb_: not a very good one I see
[00:58] <dnb_> that's an uneducated opinion
[00:58] <maddawg2> un who-amacated?
[00:58] <dnb_> because i don't know what's making an interface? you must be great at parties
[00:59] <dnb_> tgm4883: is undeducated
[00:59] <tgm4883> dnb_: no, because you have 3 different hypervisors installed
[00:59] <dnb_> tgm4883: so you know all about what i need to support, huh?
[00:59] <dnb_> glad you are omnipotent
[00:59] <dnb_> now if you can answer the question, answer, otherwise stfu tool
[01:00]  * tgm4883 goes back to playing games
[01:00] <maddawg2> dnb_, is it possible you hae a bridged interface?
[01:00] <ecko> Okay, I forgot to start off with I am a bit of a noob when it comes to computer acronyms and linux in general.
[01:00] <maddawg2> two interfaces bridged together
[01:00] <ecko> PTY is short for..?
[01:00] <dnb_> maddawg2: very possible, in fact i know i have multiple that i can identify easily, but this one is oddly named so no clue where exactly it's coming from
[01:01] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: the problem is not in the config, because I always check the config before restarting the squid's service with sudo squid -k parse and it was working with the current config for a while.
[01:01] <maddawg2> what version of ubuntu?
[01:01] <maddawg2> can you  look into the peristen-rules file (cant remember precise name ATM) and see whats in there?
[01:01] <sebboh> dnb_: stop being an asshat and use brctl to see what devices are in the bridge, which hopefully will tell you what application you allowed to perform fundamentally important systems configuration tasks FOR you...  ie, creating a low-level networking interface such as a bridge.
[01:01] <wedgie> ecko: how did you change the password?
[01:02] <maddawg2> now play nice
[01:02] <maddawg2> no name calling
[01:02] <maddawg2> you'll go to hell
[01:02] <dnb_> no joke, bunch of elitists here that aren't even helpful
[01:02] <maddawg2> but in fairness what happens when you run that command
[01:03] <maddawg2> also did you say you were virtualizing?
[01:03] <dnb_> i don't have brctl binary
[01:03] <tgm4883> sebboh: that's no necessary, also, language
[01:03] <maddawg2> you dont by chance have a bridged network card in the hypervisor presented to the guest do you?
[01:03] <dnb_> maddawg2: i do, but those are identifyable by name
[01:03] <tgm4883> maddawg2: he has 3 hypervisors installed
[01:03] <maddawg2> 3?
[01:03] <maddawg2> what?
[01:03] <maddawg2> why
[01:03] <ecko> I restarted the computer while holding shift and entered -o -n something something command and changed the password
[01:04] <dnb_> because various manufacturers utilize different tools that we have to integrate with
[01:04] <tgm4883> maddawg2: because he thinks he needs that
[01:04] <sebboh> Hey folks I call 'em how I see 'em. Anyway 7pm local, I'm out for a while, peace.
[01:04] <maddawg2> so why not buy three seperate machines if you want to know how it functions
[01:04] <wedgie> ecko: ok, back to my original question then: When you installed ubuntu did you select for it to encrypt your home directory?
[01:04] <dnb_> do you have 10MM per unit to spare? :P
[01:04] <maddawg2> not sure what manufactures we're talking here
[01:04] <dnb_> i can't say, NDAs and whatnot
[01:04] <maddawg2> hypervisor manufactures? or hardware?
[01:04] <dnb_> but that's all besides the point
[01:05] <maddawg2> well that there my fellow may be the source of your troubles
[01:05] <maddawg2> or you have a bridged network card
[01:05] <dnb_> of all the bridges/virtual interfaces i expect they are there and identifiable
[01:05] <maddawg2> well there may be one utilized by the hyper-v not normally present in the configuration
[01:05] <dnb_> i just don't know what else would be creating this interface
[01:06] <maddawg2> perhaps some type of virtual bridge to the hyper-visor
[01:06] <maddawg2> it's really hard to say
[01:06] <maddawg2> i'd first check your persistant rules file
[01:06] <maddawg2> and see if it's there
[01:07] <maddawg2> but the thing is recently ubuntu changed how network interfaces are changed (and i'm only just getting to the latest version) so perhaps the predictable device naming is off
[01:07] <dnb_> it might be docker, but i'm not certain... there's a docker0 already, but not sure why THIS one would exist. Not sure when it appeared, but I don't recall seeing it before
[01:07] <maddawg2> i'm just baffled as to why anyone would ever need 3... i'm trying to wrap my head around thtat concept but i fail to see any logic in any situation
[01:07] <maddawg2> but that's just me
[01:08] <ecko> I wouldn't know. My cousin gave me the computer with ubuntu on it. She had forgot the password when she was in college and gave it to me since I wanted to learn more about computers and such. I believe it is encrypted
[01:08] <maddawg2> i've never heard of a case like this but i expect there to be some type of anomally
[01:08] <dnb_> because when we work in only 1, and we send a packaged product to a partner, they use other tools than us sometimes and things don't always work right
[01:08] <dnb_> basic testing really
[01:08] <dnb_> so i'm working with our QA team to be able to support all our partners
[01:08] <tgm4883> dnb_: fwiw, my comment about being not a very good one was meant a little more friendly than it came across. I mostly said it because when I asked why you had 3 hypervisors installed you responded with "I'm a dev bruh", which besides the stereotypical bro culture you were beaming with, you made it sound like devs just run multiple hypervisors and it
[01:08] <tgm4883> shouldn't be questioned (which IMO it most definitely should)
[01:08] <maddawg2> and if all you're getting is a mystery bridged adapter but machine works otherwise i'd consider yourself pretty lucky and pat yourelf on the back and go down to the old pub instead
[01:09] <wedgie> ecko: different strategy: press ctrl+alt+F2 and try to log into the text environment you get. Does that work?
[01:09] <dnb_> tgm4883: well stupid questions get stupid answers... it's unrelated to the question at hand
[01:09] <maddawg2> no it's not
[01:09] <dnb_> tgm4883: if you don't want to be taken offensively, don't be offensive. simple as that
[01:09] <ecko> It briefly puts up a booting page with commands. maybe a second on the screen
[01:09] <maddawg2> perhaps if we understood why we might be able to drill to the core of the problem
[01:09] <maddawg2> or perhaps even offer a solution t hat you might not have thought of
[01:09] <dnb_> maddawg2: WHY i have them installed is irrelevant, what IS relevant is that they ARE installed
[01:10] <maddawg2> shocking but sometimes 1,676 minds might actually solve a problem that 1 mind cant
[01:10] <maddawg2> but that's just me
[01:10] <tgm4883> dnb_: well I'm sorry if I offended you, but I still question your need to run multiple hypervisors. You are in #ubuntu, which is most definitely WHY I asked in the first place.
[01:10] <wedgie> ecko: so it doesn't even boot up anymore? Not even to a login screen?
[01:10] <_28_ria> EvilMachine: OK, I've just did a final resort. Deleted the /var/spool/squid dir, recreated it, changed the user/group back to proxy/proxy, after recreating the folder with root, did again sudo squid -z to recreate cache and it worked and didn't complain about permissions. Strange.
[01:10] <maddawg2> dnb_, also it was a matter of curiosity on my part to wonder why as well
[01:10] <maddawg2> it'd be interesting to understand a case where that would be neccessary
[01:10] <dnb_> maddawg2: ok well i've given as much information as i'm legally allowed to, so would there be any other solution you can consider among that knowledge?
[01:11] <maddawg2> you could perhaps ask in the irc channels for the relevant hyper-visors in question
[01:11] <dnb_> like i said, one partner uses a different hypervisor than us, and sometimes (often) things don't work when used somewhere else
[01:11] <maddawg2> yea that tends to be the problem when going between hyper-v
[01:12] <maddawg2> i'm afraid i too have similar issues migrating vms
[01:12] <ecko> Oh, sorry. I did not see your previous message. Would I press those when it's starting or on the log on page
[01:12] <ecko> ?
[01:12] <maddawg2> but thats besides the point
[01:12] <maddawg2> are you running ubuntu as a docker?
[01:12] <maddawg2> inside something like hyper-v
[01:12] <wedgie> ecko: oh, i think i missed your previous reply (someone came in to talke to me for a min). If it is encrypted then you won't be able to change the password so easily. You'll need the mount password that was created when she installed the computer
[01:13] <maddawg2> could you tell use which 3 hyper-visors you are sing and the layout at least
[01:13] <wedgie> ecko: you'd do it once you got to the login screen
[01:13] <dnb_> damn... ok, nvm, it IS docker.
[01:13] <dnb_> didn't dawn on me to check the iptable rules
[01:13] <dnb_> -A FORWARD -o br-80f74e585344 -j DOCKER
[01:13] <maddawg2> go figure
[01:13] <dnb_> ok mystery solved
[01:13] <CoderEurope> =1
[01:14] <maddawg2> it's a bit hard to diagnose without understanding your infrastructure
[01:14] <yangm97> any network guys?
[01:14] <maddawg2> the problem with running a "non-standard" setup is that problems wont be typical and therefore more complex to think through and solve
[01:15] <tgm4883> maddawg2: it was "docker, virtualbox, vmware, qemu, etc...."
[01:15] <maddawg2> well that's four right therre
[01:15] <maddawg2> lol
[01:15] <dnb_> no, only 3
[01:15] <dnb_> docker isn't a hypervisor
[01:15] <tgm4883> I wasn't really counting docker as a hypervisor
[01:16] <wedgie> ecko: if it was encrypted, what should happen is you log in on the text console and it'll give you a message about not needing to run ecryptfs-mount-private or somthing along those lines
[01:16] <dnb_> so my point still stands, how many hypervisors i have installed is irrelevant
[01:16] <maddawg2> so is he running vmware --> Qemu --> guest with virtualbox -->docker --> ubuntu?
[01:16] <dnb_> identifying which are installing what is
[01:17] <maddawg2> or something like that i suppose
[01:17] <dnb_> it's fine, we can argue semantics all day, but the input given was rude and unhelpful; the questions you're asking are irrelevant (once again) to finding the solution
[01:17] <maddawg2> i'm just confused with all these hypervisors where ubuntu sits in the mix lol
[01:17] <dnb_> ubuntu is the host
[01:17] <ecko> I will try that when I get home. My brother wanted to come to the library so I'm stuck here for a few more minutes before we leave. I have another laptop I'll use to come back to this channel. Thank you for the help wedgie. It's good to know there's this type of support system with ubuntu.
[01:17] <dnb_> the rest are guests
[01:17] <maddawg2> dnb_, i take back what i said earlier  about name calling.... you are an asshat
[01:18] <maddawg2> sheesh we're trying to learn something too you know
[01:18] <maddawg2> prob a trump supporter right there
[01:18] <wedgie> ecko: before you go i'll say this: you probably won't be able to get the data back. BUT they were your cousins files so you're probably better off either creating a new account for yourself, or just reinstalling the computer
[01:18] <tgm4883> dnb_: I'll reiterate, the questions you were asked because you are in #ubuntu, we'll often get users in here asking questions about something that they have completely done in a weird and incorrect way
[01:18] <dnb_> you're just salty because you don't know the answer, that's fine. Like I said,I figured it out regardless of your inane queries
[01:18] <tgm4883> maddawg2: that's not necessary at all
[01:18] <dnb_> tgm4883: i get that, and can appreciate that
[01:18] <tgm4883> lets all be civil now
[01:19] <zerodabo> write spanish?
[01:19] <tgm4883> !es | zerodabo
[01:20] <maddawg2> inane?  ok pal...  glad you solved it... welcome to free support don't let the door hit you on the way out
[01:20] <maddawg2> clearly you cant internet properly
[01:20] <dnb_> says the guy bringing incorrect political attacks to a conversation about network bridges.... right.
[01:21] <dnb_> if you can't articulate yourself in an appropriate manner, what are you even doing here?
[01:21] <maddawg2> that was just a joke
[01:21] <dnb_> to troll?
[01:21] <tgm4883> ok, this is all way off topic now
[01:21] <ecko> Yes, I want everything erased and update the ubuntu. It's an older computer from 2007 I think. When I get it going it's going to be for research and writing documents and such.
[01:21] <maddawg2> are there any further questions we can give you inane queries about?
[01:22] <dnb_> it's fine, i'll leave him to his trolling.. the first time in nearly 5 years I reach out for assistance and a neckbeard jumps down my throat. cool.
[01:22] <wedgie> ecko: sounds like a fresh install might be your best bet then. And for older hardware like that you may want to look into one of the lightweight desktop varients
[01:23] <wedgie> ecko: like lubuntu or xubuntu
[01:23] <maddawg2> i wasnt jumping down your throat... maybe you need to re-read the coversation when you have a sound mind...  I was simply trying to learn WHY as to what purpose it would serve... i wasnt all up in your business about what you were doing i was simply asking a question and YOU responded quite rudely
[01:24] <maddawg2> like how dare I ask questions
[01:25] <maddawg2> welcome to IRC man we're not here to serve you answers on a platter and not learn something ourselves...if you want to be a d*ck you'll get a d*ck response back
[01:25] <tgm4883> maddawg2: let it go
[01:25] <maddawg2> Gah
[01:25] <maddawg2> jk
[01:25] <maddawg2> i digress
[01:30] <ohemdevin> There was a person who said they're about to install Ubuntu on an old computer... I'm running Xubuntu on a computer from 2007 (originally had Vista running on it, then 10... it was so sad to see that computer in so much pain! I had to wipe the partition!)
[01:31] <ohemdevin> https://imgur.com/a/dpIXF
[01:31] <ohemdevin> This computer has now been turned into something quite awesome.
[01:32] <ohemdevin> I don't really like how outdated the LXDE desktop feels. I'm sure LXQt will rectify that gap, but I'm happy with XFCE.
[01:32] <Mibix> is there actually a noticable difference in copy speeds between normal sata spinning disks ntfs vs ext4
[01:32] <Mibix> not sure if i want to copy all mine to a drive and back
[01:34] <ohemdevin> http://imgur.com/a/gbSDI
[01:35] <RVanguard> Hello, everyone!
[01:36] <ohemdevin> Hi!
[01:36] <RVanguard> How active is this channel?
[01:37] <ohemdevin> Pretty active, mate.
[01:37] <_28_ria> RVanguard: yes
[01:37] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: My
[01:38] <RVanguard> Oh, that's great! I tried some local channels (live in Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area) and was somewhat disappointed. I'll tell you what, my third month with i3 and I love it!
[01:38] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: My computer is from 2007, and running everything one could think of fine, (using multiple distros here, not at all lacking graphics effects). No idea what Windows is wasting all those resources on.
[01:39] <RVanguard> Wish I had been using i3 my entire life, since birth (if possible). Can't believe how much screen real estate goes to waste.
[01:39] <guardianL_> o.o
[01:39] <ohemdevin> I really like mouse oriented interfaces; I've been using XFCE and Cinnamon for a while... do you think i3 is worth testing out given my preference?
[01:39] <EvilMachine> Mibix: ntfs(-3g) is noticeably slower than nearly anything for me.
[01:39] <guardianL_> any wm is worth testing
[01:40] <ohemdevin> I will probably try out Openbox before i3, but yeah. :P
[01:40] <RVanguard> ohemdevin -- So you're not a fan of keyboard shortcuts?
[01:40] <ohemdevin> I'm slowly learning to use them, haha...
[01:40] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: what’s i3?
[01:40] <ohemdevin> As long as there's documentation, I'll read up on the shortcuts!
[01:41] <ohemdevin> i3 is a tiling wm!
[01:41] <EvilMachine> So like XMonad, but not Haskell? :D
[01:41] <ohemdevin> It is really pretty... I'm interested in i3 and bspwm
[01:41] <ohemdevin> Well, i3 isn't pretty at first, but it can be turned into something beautiful
[01:41] <ohemdevin> I'd rather use it over GNOME 3. :P
[01:42] <EvilMachine> Yes, non-tiling WMs never made sense to me. I force all windows to fullscreen, one windows per screen.
[01:42] <ohemdevin> GNOME 3 is such a bear on even capable hardware.
[01:42] <Mibix> ok EvilMachine
[01:42] <Mibix> i guess i can start copying to my free drive before i use it in software raid
[01:42] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: Have you tried it with software rendering via VNC? :D
[01:43] <RVanguard> ohemdevin,EvilMachine -- with i3, I feel as if there isn't any crap between me and my computer. No useless junk preventing me from being productive. Never noticed how much time I was spending messing around with a GUI (right term?) window manager
[01:44] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Yes. Pointless artifacts.
[01:45] <RVanguard> It makes me think of when I used to work at Amazon, I was spending loads of time navigating windows, screens. Although, to be fair, that was Win8/10
[01:45] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Indiana Jones and the Desktop Environment of the Crystal Toolkit.
[01:46] <ohemdevin> I think you could just call them desktop environments, but a "GUI" can work too.
[01:46] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Or in Win8/10’s case: The flat low-end-device yet-still-bloaty toolkit.
[01:47] <ohemdevin> I haven't tried software rendering with GNOME 3; in the past, I never had to do anything like that. My computer can handle KDE Plasma 5.x just fine, though. :/
[01:47] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: Is Unity a DE though? Wasn’t their point that they rejected the DE concept?
[01:47] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: Yep, although I don't mind using Mac OS X --- I highly utilize 'spaces'
[01:47] <ohemdevin> I didn't know that. I always called it a desktop environment..
[01:48] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: My brain can’t handle Plasma 5 though. Not until I can set the date format printf style again. :)
[01:48] <ohemdevin> Haha, that's understandable. KDE Plasma 5 still has a lot of quirks that need to be settled.
[01:48] <ohemdevin> I reported a few bugs when I was using it.
[01:49] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: is spaces like KDE activities? (Because thanks to the broken session manager, those never worked.)
[01:50] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: I still call KDE *4* an early beta. You might call me a bit… strict. ;)
[01:50] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: I looked up KDE Activities, unsure of what that is.
[01:50] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: I take it you're not a Mac user at all?
[01:50] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Well, think of multiple sessions that you can quickly switch between.
[01:51] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: Yep, exact same thing
[01:52] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: No. OS X makes me angry. I’m more of a power user. I can’t stand the guessing game of hidden functionality. Different personality, I guess.
[01:52] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: I do most of my work on the command line anyway.
[01:52] <EvilMachine> Easier
[01:53] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Then again, I’m currently coding a file system that is also an AI, in Haskell. :P
[01:54] <nedstark> it is you humans who are artificial
[01:54] <EvilMachine> nedstark: Tank-fully, I’m not a human.
[01:55] <nedstark> once they build the robots, this planet will be ours
[01:56] <EvilMachine> nedstark: Pah! The transformation of humans to drones is already 90% complete in the ”modern” world. :D
[01:59] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: That's awesome! The more time spent in the command-line, the better, I'm definitely in agreement there. Although, it seems like we're at odds. By what you said, I'm getting the implication that you're paid during that time. I'm the opposite -- run linux personally but I work for Apple and they require, require, require I use OS X and not much time in the term. Looking to change that soon, though!
[01:59] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: Can't imagine programming an AI, you're doing the lord's work, sir!
[02:00] <ohemdevin> You work at Apple? :O
[02:01] <ohemdevin> I own an Apple phone, but I personally don't use it for much other than Twitter.
[02:02] <ohemdevin> I really wanted a Mac PC when I was younger, though. :P
[02:02] <nedstark> they are good for installing linux
[02:02] <ohemdevin> Yes, I wanna get a PowerMac G5 to run a cheap server. ;)
[02:02] <RVanguard> NedStark -- yes, great build quality for a linux machine.
[02:03] <ohemdevin> Sad that Debian are apparently dropping PPC in the next release.
[02:03] <RVanguard> Ohemdevin: Yep, not as glamorous as I originally thought.
[02:03] <ohemdevin> Dunno if that has since changed, though...
[02:03] <ohemdevin> I just remember seeing an announcement on Reddit.
[02:03] <ohemdevin> They're much later to the punch than Apple, though, so that's good.
[02:05] <RVanguard> I thought a few manufacturers had laptops which ship with Ubuntu. I wonder if any ship with minimum install
[02:06] <nedstark> dell and system76 are the big 2
[02:06] <ohemdevin> Dell ships "developer" editions of their XPS laptops... and yes, I do remember seeing an online retailer that'd install any distro that you ask for, so long as you contact them first.
[02:06] <ohemdevin> Will look for the company...
[02:07] <nedstark> other than a few lenovo laptops linux will install ok on anything
[02:07] <RVanguard> Eh, not too interested. Honestly, it's hard justifying buying a new laptop --- realizing I can truly only utilize one PC at any one given time was hard.
[02:07] <nedstark> hard to do on 32bit windows tablets
[02:08] <RVanguard> nobody buys 32bit windows tablets
[02:08] <RVanguard> thankfully
[02:08] <nedstark> i have one updating right now
[02:08] <RVanguard> Nedstark: hahah, what is it?
[02:08] <nedstark> some generic walmart one
[02:09] <RVanguard> What do you use it for?
[02:09] <nedstark> for mobile use, when i want a real pc but don't want to lug a laptop
[02:09] <nedstark> has a keyboard with it
[02:10] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: I’m not really paid. I do it to get paid in the future though. I agree though that at Apple, you should use OS X. But with the conclusion, that OS X should then be changed to suit you better. If the oppose that, they harm your abilities, and thereby the company.
[02:11] <ohemdevin> I own a laptop, but I'm using a desktop as my main computer... Kind of wish I bought a desktop in the first place too. :s
[02:11] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Well, there are similarities between a graph-like file system and a neural net. :)
[02:11] <RVanguard> nedstark: Ah, I always wanted a tablet that I could use as a "real pc" but I settled for a larger screen phone
[02:12] <nedstark> RVanguard: i tried that but am too used to keyboards and task bars
[02:13] <ubuntu_noob> Hello.  I've installed Ubuntu 15.10 using the "F4 - Minimal Virtual Machine" option.  How can I add/enable tape drive support?
[02:13] <ohemdevin> I'm using my computer at home more & the laptop I got is somewhere in the mid-range (12 GB of RAM, 1TB SSD, weak but energy efficient quad core AMD APU tho), so I wish I just got a slightly more powerful desktop that can be upgraded & a Chromebook instead.
[02:13] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Having a small ARM home server to serve as a ”cloud” (contacts, calendar, todo, files, router, firewall, home automation, etc, has paid off though.)
[02:14] <ubuntu_noob> I realize that I need to install the "st" module, but I'm not sure how to install it
[02:14] <nedstark> windows will be on arm by the end of next year
[02:14] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: Without going into too much detail into what I do, if I used a commandline interface, it would be a non-standard way to access job resources. Quickly realized that big companies do not like non-standard procedures. What's the ARM build like?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> !15.10 | ubuntu_noob
[02:15] <ohemdevin> Windows 10 already has an IoT variant... I've heard it lags painfully behind GNU/Linux on ARM devices, though.
[02:15] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: Once I get a home (currently rent a condo), that'd be my dream
[02:15] <nedstark> ohemdevin: i don't know how they make all that OS overhead fit in lower power devices
[02:15] <nedstark> it amazes me to see windows 10 run in any form on a 32bit processor with 2gb ram
[02:16] <RVanguard> ohemdevin: What's the processor? That's a badass set up
[02:16] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: A Lamobo R1, and the same Gentoo install I migrated from various systems over the last decade. Seriously, I just made a different kernel, changed the core architecture settings, rebuild everything… still the same system from that old 450MHz PIII or something.
[02:17] <ubuntu_noob> Bashing-om: Thanks, didn't realize that.  I had started with 16.04 LTS, however I need php5.  I tried using the 5.6 PPA but that does not work for my needs.  Went back one.  I'll downgrade to the next LTS down and try again.  Still doesn't answer my original question about loading a kernel module that is there on a "standard" install but missing on a minimal install.
[02:18] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: That's out of my league. P3 for the win, though!
[02:18] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: The most fun part is the alarm clock replacement: I have very bright (but very comfortable to look at) daylight lamps (~10k lux), and a sound system… instead of an alarm going off, I simulate an artificial dawn with singing birds. (courtesy of birdsong.fm)
[02:19] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: How long have you had it running?
[02:19] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: No more being woken up in the middle of a deep sleep cycle.
[02:19] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: 6 Months now.
[02:20] <ohemdevin> https://twitter.com/QuadrantDub/status/808492009166163968
[02:20] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Takes 3–5 watt. (It has an SSD, wifi, a built-in switch and multiple sensors attached.)
[02:20] <ohemdevin> AMD A10 8700P
[02:20] <ohemdevin> Feel free to follow me on twitter btw ;)
[02:21] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: Twitter is in my name server’s blacklist… until I manage to use dns requests to block the ip addresses instead. ;)
[02:21] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: What’s your feed about?
[02:22] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: That sounds fantastic. What's your switch running? I got a buddy that works at CumulusNetworks --- unsure if you're familiar, they make open source switch software
[02:23] <ohemdevin> Generally tweet about my experiences with GNU/Linux, but I retweet stuff relating to games as well.
[02:23] <RVanguard> Evilmachine - Ohemdevin -- that's hilarious! Twitter blacklist, hahah!
[02:24] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: This is just a simple built-in switch, Check out the Lamobo R1 single-board computer
[02:25] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: I have a nice bridge between the VPN to my phone and my home network though.
[02:25] <ohemdevin> I really like using Twitter as a way of engaging in discussions about free/libre software, but that's all I really have to tweet about... 'cause I'm nerdy like that, I guess.
[02:25] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: HDMI 2?
[02:25] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: Still more attractive than people who like watching Big Brother. :)
[02:25] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Don’t know. I use it as a headless device.
[02:26] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: It does have HDMI. That’s all I know.
[02:26] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: I don’t even have the video drivers installed.
[02:26] <RVanguard> If Twitter was at all profitable and had a low P/E, I would so invest. Trump has got to be raising their traffic numbers.
[02:26] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: P/E?
[02:26] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: Price to Earnings
[02:26] <EvilMachine> Ah
[02:26] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: how does Twitter make money anway? Ads?
[02:28] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: Sponsored (ads) tweets. I ought to get me one of these. I really like the Lamobo R1
[02:28] <EvilMachine> If they live off of funding, isn’t that basically socialized, so could we tell Trump that he, with his trolling, fueled socialism? :D
[02:28] <RVanguard> EvilMachine: Although, I know it's just going to be another timesuck
[02:29] <amiller_> EvilMachine Most revenue from ads, second most from data licensing. http://www.bbc.com/news/business-24397472
[02:29] <EvilMachine> RVanguard: Yes it will be a timesuck. :)
[02:31] <ubuntu_noob> success:  Install the linux-image-extra-virtual package does the trick
[02:38] <Bashing-om> ubuntu_noob: Found: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tape-backup-with-mt-and-tar-command-howto/ . 'mt' should be installed by default, no ?
[02:42] <ubuntu_noob> Bashing-om:  It wasn't even seeing drivers for mt/mtx to run without the st module.  Installing linux-image-extra-virtual, then modprobe st did the trick
[02:42] <ubuntu_noob> installing 14.04.5 now for extended support
[02:42] <ubuntu_noob> thanks though, I didn't realize 15.10 was already expired
[02:43] <ubuntu_noob> Sorry, meant it wasn't even seeing the tape drives (not drivers)
[02:45] <wedgie> ubuntu_noob: why not 16.04? Just curious.
[02:46] <wedgie> never mind, scrolled up more
[02:46] <ubuntu_noob> I need php5.  I tried using 16.04 with the ppa for php 5.6, and that did not work for what I needed
[02:46] <Bashing-om> ubuntu_noob: hey I too thank you .. as I live and learn .
[02:46] <ubuntu_noob> not sure why
[02:51] <ubuntu_noob> hrmmm... interesting.  On 14.04.5, the same process does not work.  Wonder if it's a different kernel module
[02:52] <fraktor> I'm running Xubuntu 16.04, and I'm having some audio problems. I've always had this problem with linux on this computer. Occasionally, I'll get some skips in my audio. This happens with either JACK or Pulseaudio (I've used JACK with and without Pulseaudio, and it still happens). IF I connect two applications together, a recording application will pick up these skips, and when I look at the messages, I see
[02:52] <fraktor> lots of underruns. Is this a hardware problem, or is there a software solution?
[02:53] <EvilMachine> fraktor: Basically the JACK and PA processes need a higher priority. (Assuming your CPU and bus can generally handle the streams and you’re not doing something like 128 streams at the same time)
[02:54] <EvilMachine> fraktor: I don’t know how it’s done on Ubuntu, but on Gentoo, the idea is to let rtkit automatically give those processes pseudo-realtime priorities, or at least priorities much higher than the desktop stuff, but still lower then important kernel stuff)
[02:54] <EvilMachine> s/then/than/
[02:55] <fraktor> Alright. I'll look up how to do that on Ubuntu and report back.
[02:56] <Bashing-om> ubuntu_noob: Do not know as here on 16.04 (xubuntu) mt is installed and available by default ' mt -V >> mt (GNU cpio) 2.11 ' .
[02:56] <Sean_McG> EvilMachine: if I'm not mistaken I think you have to put your user in the 'realtime' group ... or maybe it was 'audio' and 'pulse'
[02:56] <Sean_McG> I kinda sorta remember having to do that on my PPC Gentoo box
[02:57] <EvilMachine> Sean_McG: Yes, but that only does something, if rtkit is told to elevate processes in that group
[02:57] <Sean_McG> aye
[02:57] <ubuntu_noob> Bashing-om: Ok, so in 14.04.5, it's linux-image-extra-virtual-lts-xenial
[02:57] <ubuntu_noob> that add's the st module.  Without that, mt/mtx won't see any tape drives to work with
[02:58] <EvilMachine> Sean_McG: Wait. isn’t that stuff set in security/limits.conf?
[02:58] <Sean_McG> EvilMachine: possibly, but it's been too long since I mucked with that
[02:58] <EvilMachine> fraktor: Does Ubuntu have a /etc/security/limits.conf?
[02:59] <EvilMachine> fraktor: I have this in that file: #rtprio\n@audio - rtprio 90\n@audio - nice -15\n@audio - memlock 500000
[02:59] <EvilMachine> fraktor: And pulseaudio is in that group.
[02:59] <EvilMachine> fraktor: (\n → newline)
[03:00] <EvilMachine> fraktor: I think jack is in that group too.
[03:00] <fraktor> EvilMachine: looking around, I have to put myself in the audio group. I've done that, but I have to log out and back in. I'll do that real quick and let you know the results.
[03:01] <EvilMachine> fraktor: Only if the pulseaudio process is in that group.
[03:01] <fraktor> Right. But I have to log out and back in for that to take effect.
[03:02] <EvilMachine> fraktor: yes, i think so.
[03:02] <EvilMachine> fraktor: I haven’t yet found a way to do it without logging back in
[03:06] <fraktor> EvilMachine: I've configured both pulseaudio and jack to start with realtime priority. I'm gonna log out and in and see what happens.
[03:07] <puffinz> hahaha.
[03:08] <EvilMachine> lol
[03:08] <puffinz> <3
[03:08] <EvilMachine> Let’s hope those processes will leave something for the rest of the system.
[03:09] <imanidjot> I need some noob browser help
[03:09] <Sean_McG> I won't make my usual comments about pulse and Lennart
[03:09] <EvilMachine> Sean_McG: No need. I already know what you’d say, and agree with it. :)
[03:09] <Bashing-om> !help | imanidjot
[03:09] <imanidjot> Xubuntu 16.04 and Firefox suddenly won't load anything. Not any error messages on page or conneciton warnings...just spins on a blank page. Chromium works.
[03:10] <imanidjot> Are there any diagnostic steps I can take?
[03:10] <imanidjot> firefox just ramps fans and cpu up high...only one process shows for it
[03:11] <imanidjot> Tor Browser bundle does the same so two firefox based things have the issue...both worked fine for months until suddenly today
[03:11] <imanidjot> updated and upgraded...problem still there
[03:12] <ecko> Can anyone help me with a log in problem? I've changed the password and it starts to log in flashes a command screen for half a second and goes back to the log in screen, what can I do?
[03:13] <wedgie> ecko: your problem is that you reset a password with an encrypted home directory and now it can't decrypt the files any more. Unless your cousin wrote down the mount password when the system was first installed you're probably out of luck for the data.
[03:13] <imanidjot> ok now Tor Browser Bundle is working. I didn't do anything but restarts and it wasn't working after the last one
[03:14] <wedgie> ecko: your options are to create a new account for yourself and use that instead of the old account, or reinstall the computer
[03:14] <ecko> How do I create a new account?
[03:14] <imanidjot> firefox still causes the bad behavior
[03:15] <Bashing-om> ecko: At the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console. can you log into the system from this interface with your credentials ?
[03:15] <imanidjot> nothing else "crosses fingers" in the system seems to be wonky....how can I pin down the problem?
[03:15] <reisio> what bad behavior?
[03:15] <EriC^^> ecko: you changed the password for the user account and can't access the files anymore?
[03:16] <EriC^^> it's fixable i think
[03:16] <ecko> in the root shield?
[03:16] <ecko> I changed the password
[03:16] <imanidjot> Firefox is causing big CPU and fan activity but won't load anything...just blank pages. Tor Browser bundle did it too but now it works. I get a Mozilla Crash Reporter window when I close Firefox
[03:17] <EriC^^> ecko: try sudo ecryptfs-recovery-private in a terminal
[03:17] <imanidjot> Chromium works....Tor Browser seems to work now
[03:17] <EriC^^> ecko: typo, sudo ecryptfs-recover-private in a terminal
[03:17] <imanidjot> I made no changes and was in the middle of normal browsing when the problem first occured.
[03:17] <EriC^^> ecko: when it asks for the password, write your old login password
[03:17] <imanidjot> restarts and updates didn't change anything
[03:19] <ecko> Its says its searching
[03:21] <EriC^^> ok
[03:21] <imanidjot> reisio: this is the "reason" listed: MozCrashReason: MOZ_CRASH(Shutdown too long, probably frozen, causing a crash.)
[03:23] <ecko> Im typing login passphrase
[03:24] <reisio> imanidjot: when's that happen?
[03:24] <imanidjot> When I try to open FF...i just see a white page with loading circle in tab spinning...fans ramp up and stay up until I closed it and the crash reporter comes up
[03:25] <ecko> Error: Unwrapping passphrase and inserting into the session keyring failed [-5]       That popped up
[03:25] <imanidjot> cant find any solution on google so far
[03:25] <imanidjot> other browsers work
[03:25] <imanidjot> including the Tor Browser Firefox
[03:26] <EriC^^> ecko: let me try recreating the problem here, i'm pretty sure there's a solution
[03:28] <ecko> I can write down what it says when I try to log on, if that helps? It was up for half a second before it rerouted me to the log in screen.
[03:28] <imanidjot> reset of firefox doesnt help
[03:28] <EriC^^> ecko: try to login as your user, then from a terminal try ecryptfs-mount-private
[03:28] <EriC^^> enter the old password, it worked here i just tried it
[03:28] <reisio> imanidjot: what about 'firefox --safe-mode'?
[03:29] <fraktor> EvilMachine: Here's what I found out: I'm able to get JACK running in realtime, but I'm still getting XRUN callbacks. Would a pastebin of the errors help?
[03:30] <imanidjot> reisio: safe mode works...does that mean its an extension?
[03:30] <EriC^^> ecko: login from ctrl+alt+f1 and do those stuff from there, then alt+f7 to get back to the login screen
[03:30] <imanidjot> will disable those and see
[03:31] <EriC^^> ecko: actually, changing the password back would also fix it, just tried
[03:31] <juan_> hi need a distro that i can us from a usb
[03:31] <EriC^^> so "sudo passwd <your user>" and entering the old password should fix it if you dont mind using the old password
[03:31] <reisio> juan_: why?
[03:31] <EriC^^> juan_: you can use any distro from a usb
[03:31] <reisio> imanidjot: can mean various things to do with your profile, yes
[03:31] <imanidjot> reisio: normal mode works with all extensions disabled...will track down the culprit now
[03:32] <reisio> gj
[03:32] <imanidjot> reisio: I spoke too soon...it doesnt work
[03:32] <imanidjot> just loaded the extensions page from safe mode
[03:32] <imanidjot> what should I check next?
[03:32] <juan_> have anothe hard disk but dont have cd rom  have to install from usb
[03:32] <reisio> imanidjot: what doesn't work?
[03:33] <reisio> juan_: most any distro can be installed from a USB stick
[03:33] <imanidjot> I disabled all extensions and then tried to open ff normally...I thought it was working as the extension settings page loaded...but other tabs are blank as before and fans ramp up
[03:33] <juan_> i download two but wont install in usb
[03:34] <juan_> archlinux and os
[03:35] <reisio> imanidjot: and with --safe-mode does it?
[03:35] <reisio> juan_: os?
[03:35] <reisio> juan_: what OS do you actually want to install?
[03:35] <imanidjot> reisio: in safe mode it seems to work ok
[03:35] <imanidjot> pages load normally
[03:35] <juan_> want to see how it works
[03:36] <juan_> elementaryos
[03:36] <EvilMachine> fraktor: Have you checked its priority, nice level and io nice level in something like htop?
[03:36] <ecko> I tried the cntrl+alt+f1 combo and it popped up a screen and it said failed in one command and went back to the login screen
[03:37] <juan_> i need one for a old pc penteum 2
[03:37] <juan_> pc
[03:37] <EvilMachine> fraktor: (there are multiple realitime levels. don’t set it above your kernel processes though, or your system will lock up)
[03:37] <kostkon> juan_, that's way too old for any modern distro
[03:38] <EvilMachine> fraktor: Maybe your bottleneck is actually the hardware though. This was the case with my previous computer, around 2005, which had a crappy nVidia chipset.
[03:39] <EvilMachine> juan_: Btw: Any recent smartphone has more power than a pentium 2. A raspberry pi probably does have more power and resources. And it takes way less power, which will cost as much as one raspberry pi per month.
[03:39] <EvilMachine> juan_: People give away more powerful systems and phones. Maybe check your local classifieds.
[03:40] <EvilMachine> juan_: Not that I can’t show love for an old Pentium 2. :)
[03:40] <MrTuxHdb> Hi, anyone has exp with EFIstub
[03:40] <juan_> were i live is verry expenceve
[03:40] <EvilMachine> juan_: That said, i bet Gentoo would run on it. But you would *have* to do pretty much everything by hand. I don’t think that is worth it.
[03:40] <juan_> need something light
[03:41] <EvilMachine> juan_: I understand. Where do you live?
[03:41] <juan_> in dominican republic
[03:41] <EvilMachine> juan_: Hmm, I would have sent you something via mail, but I guess that’s gonna be even more expensive.
[03:42] <EvilMachine> juan_: Alright, Ubuntu is definitely not the right choice for that though.
[03:42]  * Sean_McG builds a VLC nightly
[03:42] <EvilMachine> juan_: I suggest finding a small light distribution
[03:42] <juan_> like what can you send
[03:42] <EvilMachine> juan_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Linux_distribution
[03:43] <ecko> stopping automatic crash report failed
[03:43] <EvilMachine> juan_: I would have gotten you a raspberry pi or something equivalent, and sent it over, if you could afford it.
[03:44] <EvilMachine> juan_: But I know our prices can be way too crazy for other places in the world.
[03:44] <EvilMachine> juan_: I suggest going to that Wikipedia link, and sorting the table by system requirements.
[03:45] <EvilMachine> juan_: Some even support 386 PCs, so you should find something nice.
[03:45] <juan_> ok  will try thanks
[03:45] <EvilMachine> juan_: Hey, LXDE can do Pentium III!
[03:45] <EvilMachine> juan_: That’s Ubuntu but with a lightweight desktop
[03:46] <juan_> ok let me see if i download it
[03:46] <EvilMachine> juan_: Lubuntu can even do Pentium II
[03:46] <ohemdevin> Openbox could probably be up your alley as well. :3
[03:46] <juan_> stated to download lubuntu
[03:47] <EvilMachine> juan_: forget LXDE, I confused II with III.
[03:47] <ohemdevin> I think Lubuntu has Openbox as an optional session as well
[03:47] <ohemdevin> when you start LightDM
[03:47] <EvilMachine> ohemdevin: Yes, the distros on that wiki page mention openbox
[03:47] <kostkon> juan_, how much ram does your Pentium 2 system have?
[03:48] <juan_> 2 gig
[03:49] <EvilMachine> Lol, somebody managed to get Linux running on an ATmega1284p, 8-bit CPU :D
[03:49] <EvilMachine> juan_: you should be fine
[03:49] <EvilMachine> juan_: Sure you don’t mean a different CPU?
[03:49] <juan_> thanks for the help
[03:49] <juan_> no
[03:50] <juan_> pentiun 11
[03:50] <juan_> 2
[03:51] <reisio> imanidjot: okay, well, what from your profile do you want to keep?
[03:52] <imanidjot> reisio: I already reset it again and it seems to be working
[03:52] <imanidjot> I lost all my RES settings but nothing else was difficult to restore
[03:52] <imanidjot> I cant find the RES settings in the old profile folder
[03:52] <reisio> what's RES?
[03:52] <imanidjot> RES=Reddit Enhancement Suite in case you dont use it
[03:52] <imanidjot> FF extension
[03:53] <reisio> ah okay
[03:53] <reisio> yeah Firefox's "refresh" thing is an abomination
[03:53] <reisio> dunno if your sets are still there now, but they probably would've been before
[03:58] <EvilMachine> imanidjot: reddit is cancer is cancer is reddit
[03:58] <imanidjot> nevertheless I wish I had backed up the settings for that extension
[03:58] <imanidjot> did so for ublock origin etc
[04:28] <mojtaba> Hello, I have an ASUS router and I want to setup Ubuntu 16.04 to connect to its OpenVPN server. Does anybody know what should I do>
[04:29] <mojtaba> I have tried this instructions, https://naveensnayak.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/ubuntu-openvpn-with-ovpn-file/ but no chance.
[04:33] <kantlivelong> is there any logical reason why with libvirt/qemu i would get horrible performance with qcow2 over raw?
[04:39] <nchambers> how long is 14.04 LTS for?
[04:40] <Sean_McG> I think it expires by 2018
[04:40] <nchambers> hrmm ok
[04:41] <Sean_McG> I'm still on 14.04 here  as well, but will probably move to 16.04 during the holiday
[04:41] <nchambers> I'm setting up a server. I think I'll start with 14.04 and do a migration to 16
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | nchambers
[04:42] <nchambers> I don't want an automatic upgrade...
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> nchambers: any reason you dont wanna start with 16.04 server?
[04:42] <nchambers> lotuspsychje, familiarity
[04:42] <Bashing-om> nchambers: 14.04 is LTS, support for 5 uears . release in 2014 (14) , in April (04) .. this will be supported til 2014 + 5 = 2019 .
[04:42] <nchambers> I know what to expect
[04:43] <nchambers> ok thanks Bashing-om
[04:43] <Bashing-om> nchambers: :) ,, Glad to assust .
[05:01] <pokalyis> How would I add a global shortcut in gnome to open the pref panel for an application? Is there a standardized way to do this?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> pokalyis: maybe the #ubuntu-gnome guys would know this?
[05:12] <cdot> hello there
[05:12] <cfhowlett> cdot, ask your ubuntu question
[05:13] <cdot> what are the best apps to add to my ubuntu
[05:13] <cfhowlett> how would we know? it's completely subjective, i.e. what do YOU need and how do YOU work.
[05:14] <cfhowlett> since the apps are free, how about you install/test/choose yourself?
[05:14] <cdot> just wondering bc i am new to ubuntu
[05:14] <cfhowlett> !fcm | cdot read
[05:14] <reisio> never heard of it
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> cdot: perhaps as cfhowlett suggests, start with what you need/miss?
[05:15] <cfhowlett> oh!  yes, I should definitely have included "what do you miss?".  thanks lotuspsychje
[05:16] <cfhowlett> cdot, also consider your workflow (assuming this is for work).  better questions will yield better answers.
[05:17] <cfhowlett> reisio, never heard of FCM?
[05:17] <reisio> yeah
[05:18] <cfhowlett>   .> 00 <.
[05:19] <cfhowlett> pretty good read for being an independent mag.  note that it is NOT affiliated in any way with *buntu / Canonical.  They give way too much attention to *buntu derivatives IMO, but still a decent and informative read.
[05:19] <mojtaba> Does anyone know how can I import ovpn file? (I am using network manager in Ubuntu 16.04, and I am getting this error: "The file 'file-x.ovpn' could not be read or does not contain recognized VPN connection information Error: the plugin does not support import capability")
[05:20] <reisio> not for nothing, but I usually close the tab when I read "monthly PDF magazine" on a website
[05:20] <reisio> the php error is a nice touch, though :D
[05:20] <cfhowlett> reisio, also available as epub
[05:23] <nchambers> hey guys sprunge.us/QCCK I'm setting up a server and I keep getting stuck here. any ideas?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> try a different mirror , nchambers
[05:24] <nchambers> cfhowlett, how would I change it?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !mirror
[05:24] <cfhowlett> eek.  no.  wiat
[05:26] <cfhowlett> nchambers, easy answer: system > software updater > settings > ubuntu software > download from: OTHER > Select Best Server
[05:26] <nchambers> its a software
[05:26] <nchambers> err
[05:26] <nchambers> its a server
[05:27] <cfhowlett> doh!  right.  edit your /etc/apt/sources.list        choose a target from this    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[05:28] <reisio> cfhowlett: sure, but why do I need a viewer for a particular format if I'm already viewing media from them in a viewer I already have (browser)
[05:28] <cfhowlett> I use epub for mobile reading.  but you do you.
[05:32] <nchambers> hrmm
[05:32] <nchambers> its still only showing a partial connecting message then hanging
[05:32] <cfhowlett> nchambers, what version of ubuntu?
[05:32] <nchambers> 14.04
[05:32] <nchambers> .5
[05:32] <nchambers> 14.04.5
[05:34] <cfhowlett> nchambers, what repo did you select?
[05:34] <nchambers> oh wait
[05:34] <nchambers> nmd
[05:34] <nchambers> its going
[05:34] <nchambers> its just going really slow
[05:34] <cfhowlett> ask your ISP
[05:35] <nchambers> meh I think its more my vm than my ISP
[05:35] <cfhowlett> I'm in a vm as well.  unless you have background processes eating your internetz, should not matter.  torrentz?  ffox tabs?
[05:36] <nchambers> no. just not a whole lot of resources. I've got a google fiber connection that is working fine in other places
[05:37] <cfhowlett> wha... G is supposed to the super hummingbirdonrack internet!
[05:37] <nchambers> I think you a word
[05:37] <cfhowlett> crack
[05:43] <mojtaba> Does anyone know how can I import ovpn file? (I am using network manager in Ubuntu 16.04, and I am getting this error: "The file 'file-x.ovpn' could not be read or does not contain recognized VPN connection information Error: the plugin does not support import capability")
[06:10] <retroispresto> dax, You're still opped here
[06:10] <dax> retroispresto: yep
[06:10] <retroispresto> Freenode has that rule?
[06:17] <sond> anyone have a running Dapper Drake LTS close by ?
[06:17] <sond> workstation ?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> sond, highly unlikely
[06:17] <retroispresto> Um... how old is that?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> as it is WAY dead, unsupported and unsecured
[06:18] <cfhowlett> retroispresto, only 10 years or so
[06:18] <retroispresto> Oh, my XP os is older than that
[06:18] <retroispresto> sond, I might be able to help you
[06:18] <sond> boss mode BBL..
[06:32] <tarkus> Q: What's the best way to install and use multiple versions of Node.js on Ubuntu server? (also Yarn)
[06:33] <cybervking[m]> docker
[06:34] <tarkus> cybervking[m] doesn't it take extra memory space? I have just 1GB RAM and need to run 10 web apps
[06:34] <cheng> hi everyone
[06:35] <pronet> Any body knows Wifite Bug fixes?
[06:35] <pronet> please upload git.hub
[06:40] <jobsnoob> Hi everyone, a command line beginner here! :)
[06:59] <sond> Howdy, Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS (Dapper Drake) question here.. did it come with SoundTracker preinstalled or was it an earlier edition that had it ?
[07:00] <sond> i need SoundTracker ... i miss it
[07:02] <dazednconfused> Hi!
[07:07] <kiko> hi
[07:07] <MrTuxHdb> so, no one has exp with EFI stub in Ubuntu?
[07:07] <MrTuxHdb> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04
[07:08] <MrTuxHdb> but never success when boot using efistub
[07:08] <MrTuxHdb> always is kernel panic
[07:08] <MrTuxHdb> vfs root mount failed
[07:08] <MrTuxHdb> I'm sure I point right partition for root folder
[07:12] <xangua> What's wrong with grub?
[07:18] <MrTuxHdb> I want to try with EFI stub instead grub
[07:18] <MrTuxHdb> grub is fine
[07:18] <pronet_> wifite -cant capture handshake- ( Code ) issues..
[07:18] <pronet_> Requesting Patches
[07:19] <jelly> pronet_: wifite seems to be a wrapper for a lot of underlying tools, including aircrack-ng, wireshark/tshark and others.  Do you know which underlying tool is responsible?
[07:23] <pronet_> jelly : main Error -Patch file is not identified-
[07:23] <jelly> pronet_: also, to find a wireless-related channel, you can use something like /msg alis list *wireless*
[07:24] <pronet_> aireplay-ng exits, frequently without command
[07:26] <pronet_> #wireless-pijnacker
[07:26] <pronet_> oops nsorry>!
[07:32] <pronet> Jelly : Channel *wireless* is Offline
[07:33] <pronet> requesting other open channels.
[07:33] <pronet> @jelly
[07:36] <jelly> pronet: that just shows a list of channels, number of people and topic.  Pick the most relevant channel that has a decent number of people.  "*wireless*" is not a channel name
[07:37] <pronet> roger. @jely
[07:38] <pronet> requesting your command for channel list again.
[07:38] <pronet> @jelly
[07:39] <pronet> disregard my last. @jelly
[07:41] <jelly> pronet: start with /msg alis help
[07:59] <pronet> Done. @jelly found patches.
[08:01] <odhook> hey
[08:02] <odhook> just checking out irssi :)
[08:02] <pronet> ey  : odhook.
[08:03] <vinod123[m]> Test
[08:03] <odhook> I'll be back again later ;) adios
[08:17] <alumne> hola maricones
[08:41] <django_> whats some software to make a powerpoint?
[08:43] <ikevin> django_, libreoffice
[08:46] <Orestis> Hello people,   So a couple of weeks ago I tried to log out from my Ubuntu 16.10 laptop, Unity froze and was not responding. I tried several times this day and it was always the same. 3-4 days later I tried once again and it was working perfectly, I tried some times more and it was OK. Today I tried to log out but it froze again. If I use "sudo lightdm restart"(after pressing ctrl+alf+f6) unity will restart but it will still freeze 
[09:01] <joegiampaoli> anyway to disable usb charge to phone while using usb tethering?
[09:03] <Triffid_Hunter> joegiampaoli: don't think so, USB devices use presence of voltage to detect that they're connected to a host
[09:03] <joegiampaoli> Triffid_Hunter: hmmm, OK, thanks!
[09:04] <Triffid_Hunter> joegiampaoli: phones pull a reduced current from computer ports already, if that's still problematic for you for whatever reason, make sure the phone is fully charged first, then it'll only take as much current as it needs to run and won't charge the battery
[09:06] <joegiampaoli> Triffid_Hunter: yes, I have noticed that at full charge don't suck so much battery from laptop, I just wanted to see if there was a way to completely cut off the power only from USB. Thanks anyway, appreciate it...
[09:08] <Triffid_Hunter> joegiampaoli: you could put a 4.7 ohm resistor in the +5v line of the usb cable.. that way either the phone will assume the supply is wimpy and take hardly any current, or it'll rapidly connect and disconnect in a loop. one of the two ;)
[09:10] <juanonymous> hello if you are uncertain of the the path of your file, what command do i use?
[09:11] <joegiampaoli> Triffid_Hunter: Hey! That's pretty neat! I could try that, maybe even build a bridged usb adapter wth the resistor. Cool! Thanks gain :)
[09:11] <EriC^^> juanonymous: "locate file" >
[09:11] <EriC^^> *?
[09:11] <joegiampaoli> juanonymous: No matter how freaking low you feel, don't use sudo rm -rf /
[09:12] <juanonymous> what is /
[09:12] <juanonymous> it will remove all?
[09:12] <Ben64> your root directory, everything is under it
[09:12] <juanonymous> ok
[09:12] <EriC^^> juanonymous: try locate file
[09:12] <EriC^^> or sudo find / -iname "*file*"
[09:13] <Ben64> 2nd one is the slow way
[09:15] <joegiampaoli> juanonymous: If you know your file extension, you can try <find . -name "*.ext"> where ext is the extension
[09:18] <Acru> hey, I have a problem with my mothers ubuntu laptop
[09:18] <juanonymous> thanks guys
[09:19] <Acru> she managed to not do any upgrades for the last year and now she is stuck on 15.10 and I dont know how to upgrade to 16
[09:19] <Acru> i already tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/
[09:19] <EriC^^> Acru: and what happened?
[09:19] <EriC^^> did you modify the sources.list and stuff?
[09:19] <Acru> nothing
[09:20] <EriC^^> Acru: what did you do?
[09:20] <Acru> I just cant manage to upgrade to 16 and would like to know whether there is any way
[09:20] <Acru> the do-release-upgrade tells me upgrading from vivid to xenial is not possible
[09:22] <Ben64> Acru: you need to go through wily
[09:22] <Acru> How do I do this?
[09:22] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | Acru
[09:23] <Acru> Ben64: I already tried this, how can I just upgrade to wily?
[09:24] <Ben64> by doing the eolupgrade
[09:25] <Ben64> wait you said "stuck on 15.10" but you say it's vivid?
[09:25] <Ben64> 15.04 is vivid
[09:26] <yellowfin> hi folks. if have a celeron mini pc is it going to struggle to drive a QHD monitor for web browsing and office tasks?
[09:26] <Acru> Ben64: yeah sorry, its 15.04
[09:26] <Ben64> yellowfin: cpu doesn't matter for monitor, should be able to do web and stuff
[09:27] <Ben64> Acru: better at this point to install 16.04 fresh
[09:27] <Acru> Ben64: is this possible without losing data?
[09:27] <Ben64> if you have a separate home partition yeah
[09:28] <yellowfin> Ben64, no lag?
[09:28] <yellowfin> i mean the qhd isn't going to stress the cpu more?
[09:28] <Ben64> no, that's gpu territory
[09:28] <yellowfin> Ben64, you mean the cpu has nothing to with pushing the pixels to the screen?
[09:29] <Ben64> pretty much
[09:30] <yellowfin> Ben64, but my gpu is integrated on the chip.
[09:30] <yellowfin> i don't have a graphics card, just what intel has on the chip.
[09:30] <Ben64> ok?
[09:30] <yellowfin> Ben64, so it's probably not powerful.
[09:30] <yellowfin> is the qhd going to stress it more?
[09:30] <Ben64> try it
[09:30] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[09:31] <CountryfiedLinux> There's a feature I wanna disable. How do I disable that icon wiggling when an application opens?
[09:31] <yellowfin> Ben64, customer service at amazon said i must have a monster system to drive the qhd monitor i was considering.
[09:31] <Ben64> nope
[09:32] <yellowfin> it was just some enthusiast looking at what i was ordering and marveling at what kind of beautiful, monstrous system i must be using to drive such a monitor, as though his system wouldn't be powerful enough for that monitor.
[09:32] <Ben64> if you want to talk about computer hardware, you can join ##hardware
[09:33] <hateball> CountryfiedLinux: googling suggests you need to install unity tweak tool and disable launch animations using that
[09:34] <hateball> CountryfiedLinux: there's probably a gconf setting you can change directly, I've no idea since I don't use Unity
[09:34] <digel> hi all ,does anyone knows if its possible to convert linux snapshot to a dump model ?
[09:35] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh ok thanks hateball I'll try that. I thought I searched for that in unity tweak tool before. I'll check again.
[09:37] <digel> anyone ?
[09:38] <hateball> !patience | digel
[09:38] <digel> thanks ,sorry for that
[09:44] <janat08> im running a distribution upgrade for 16.10, where do i find patch notes?
[09:57] <peyrin> so...I'm trying to set up a bot on a VPS that runs ubuntu
[09:58] <peyrin> but all I have on my end is the terminal
[09:58] <peyrin> dunno which commands would load the bot
[09:59] <peyrin> the bot itself is written in python, starts with a batch file
[09:59] <peyrin> is anyone there? help would be appreciated
[10:01] <haxabja> hi, i get this when i try to upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/23627866/
[10:02] <haxabja> should i do what it tells me to do or will that break something?
[10:05] <amoghraj> ola
[10:05] <amoghraj> Got a problem
[10:05] <amoghraj> with my RTL8723BE
[10:05] <amoghraj> Bluetooth
[10:06] <amoghraj> I can't detect anything on the bluetooth
[10:06] <amoghraj> any help is aprreciated
[10:06] <amoghraj> I have tried reinstalling the firmware
[10:07]  * amoghraj sits down and waits
[10:07] <amoghraj> bump
[10:08] <amoghraj> guess not
[10:08] <amoghraj> welp I'm out I suppose
[10:08] <Ben64> lol, 2 minutes 59 seconds
[10:09] <haxabja> anyone?
[10:25] <slyrobot> My problem isn't for Ubuntu Exactly but I will ask it anyway.
[10:26] <Ben64> or you could just ask it in the correct place
[10:27] <slyrobot> I have a VPS which has SSH enabled. If I ssh into my VPS and then wget a file and then exit SSH will it stop the download ?
[10:27] <Ben64> depends how you exit
[10:27] <slyrobot> I was wondering. Also will the scenario be same for rtorrent ?
[10:27] <slyrobot> how can it work Ben64
[10:28] <slyrobot> ?
[10:28] <Ben64> by using screen
[10:28] <haxabja> hi, i get this when i try to upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/23627866/
[10:28] <slyrobot> lets say I don't use VNC kind of service.
[10:28] <haxabja> should i do what it tells me to do or will that break something?
[10:28] <Ben64> slyrobot: use screen
[10:28] <slyrobot> I am just doing an SSH into the VPS.
[10:29] <Ben64> haxabja: try "sudo apt-get install apt apt-utils"
[10:29] <Ben64> slyrobot: it's called "screen"
[10:29] <slyrobot> Okay.
[10:29] <slyrobot> So how do I use it ? Ben64
[10:29] <Ben64> better to look up a guide somewhere
[10:30] <Ben64> theres a lot you can do with it
[10:30] <slyrobot> Alright. Thanks Ben64
[10:30] <CrystalMare> I've been having problems with installing my graphics drivers on ubuntu
[10:30] <CrystalMare> My laptop is currently using the intel drivers
[10:31] <CrystalMare> I've tried many ways of installing the drivers, but it either, doesn't work, or crashes my entire desktop environment
[10:31] <CrystalMare> And the nvidia prime thing does not work
[10:31] <CrystalMare> There's no information online how to do this properly
[10:35] <Triffid_Hunter> slyrobot: you can also try tmux, it does basically the same thing as screen but some folks seem to like it better. 'nohup' may interest you as well although it doesn't allow you to reconnect to the running process
[10:36] <Triffid_Hunter> slyrobot: on my servers, I put screen -xRR in my ~/.bash_profile so I automatically get reconnected to my screen session on login. don't put it in ~/.bashrc or you'll make an infinite loop and lock yourself out, because screen executes ~/.bashrc whenever it makes a new terminal
[10:37] <slyrobot> Thanks Triffid_Hunter I think will do my research. Thanks btw.
[10:37] <CrystalMare> Does anyone know how to install an Intel/Nvidia Hybrid graphics setup?
[10:38] <Triffid_Hunter> slyrobot: normally, anything you execute in a ssh session will get killed if/when the session ends
[10:38] <CrystalMare> Its using the intel drivers by default, after installing the nvidia-current package, it does not work
[10:38] <slyrobot> Yes. That's an answer looking for. Triffid_Hunter .
[10:45] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[10:46] <CountryfiedLinux> I have the launcher set to autohide but when I open an app the icon wiggles from the left side edge of the screen. How do I disable that?
[10:48] <mcphail> CountryfiedLinux: not sure if it will work, but I think if you install unity-tweak-tool you can change the launch animations. You may be able to disable them
[10:49] <CountryfiedLinux> mcphail, I don't see it anywhere, and I turned off all animations. The icon still wiggles from the edge.
[10:49] <CrystalMare> Can someone help me with my driver problem?
[10:49] <wyoung> :D
[10:49] <mcphail> CountryfiedLinux: sorry, i don't have any other suggestions :(
[10:50] <taliptako> exit
[10:50] <wyoung> Can I help any one?
[10:50] <ikonia> wyoung: don't worry about that, just sit and watch, if you see a question your comfortable answering, just go for it
[10:51] <ikonia> you don't have to probe for questions
[10:51] <CrystalMare> Well, do you know how to install both nvidia and intel drivers on ubuntu
[10:51] <wyoung> ikonia: some people are shy, but ok, I will wait
[10:51] <CountryfiedLinux> mcphail, I'm wanting to make my own respin but with using Plank and the Slingscold menu instead of the Unity launcher. I have the launcher set to autohide and reveal sensitivity set to 0 so it's out of sight, out of mind. That icon wiggle from the left side just makes it apparent it's there.
[10:51] <CrystalMare> ikonia, so far, Ive posted my question twice
[10:51] <CrystalMare> and waited 20 minutes
[10:51] <CrystalMare> and this is the 3rd time coming to #ubuntu
[10:51] <ikonia> CrystalMare: no problem, people will see it and help if they can
[10:51] <CrystalMare> lol
[10:51] <CrystalMare> yeah
[10:51] <CrystalMare> but nobody knows
[10:51] <CrystalMare> its shit
[10:51] <ikonia> CrystalMare: please don't swear
[10:51] <CrystalMare> -.-
[10:53] <CountryfiedLinux> CrystalMare, https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+hybrid+graphics+intel+nvidia
[10:53] <CrystalMare> CountryfiedLinux, oh my, I never thought to google that.
[10:53] <CrystalMare> -.-
[10:53] <CrystalMare> none of the answers work
[10:53] <CrystalMare> I've had to reinstall my computer twice
[10:53] <CrystalMare> because of the desktop environment becoming unresponsive
[10:53] <CountryfiedLinux> CrystalMare, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+hybrid+graphics+intel+nvidia
[10:53] <wyoung> Cybertinus: that sounds horrible
[10:53] <bazhang> CrystalMare, please stop using the enter key as punctuation
[10:54] <CrystalMare> What?
[10:54] <wyoung> Cybertinus: the issues you are having
[10:54] <CountryfiedLinux> bazhang, That's almost as bad as using lol as punctuation :P
[10:55] <wyoung> Cybertinus: you have two video cards in your PC? one intel, the other nvidia?
[10:57] <CountryfiedLinux> CrystalMare, As for using Linux I recommend to just stick with Intel.
[10:57] <CountryfiedLinux> I know it's not helpful right now, just for future reference.
[10:58] <wyoung> CrystalMare: even, sorry I was tab completing wrong
[10:58] <CrystalMare> CountryfiedLinux, I've been doing this for the last month
[10:58] <CrystalMare> I need my GPU
[10:59] <CountryfiedLinux> CrystalMare, Any specific reason why Nvidia? Just curious. And I hope you don't say for gaming since it's on Linux :P
[10:59] <CountryfiedLinux> Unless you're dual-booting that is.
[10:59] <CrystalMare> What
[11:00] <CrystalMare> CountryfiedLinux, its a laptop with Intel 5000 Series, and an Nvidia 940m
[11:00] <CountryfiedLinux> dual-booting is having a disk partitioned to boot multiple operating systems.
[11:00] <CrystalMare> And I am dual booting.
[11:00] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh I see.
[11:00] <CrystalMare> The reason I am using linux, is because I hate using windows
[11:01] <CrystalMare> But the lack of support for nvidia-prime has me tearing my hair off my head.
[11:01] <Ben64> nvidia prime is standard now
[11:01] <CrystalMare> Yet it doesn't work.
[11:01] <Ben64> how
[11:01] <CrystalMare> I installed the nvidia drivers
[11:01] <Ben64> how
[11:01] <wyoung> CrystalMare: I dual booted once, but one day I commited to ubuntu and I only looked back when my boss forced me to use a mac :)  but I still use ubuntu for server!
[11:02] <CrystalMare> Many ways, I've used the aditional drivers applications
[11:02] <CrystalMare> Used the apt to install nvidia-current
[11:02] <CrystalMare> And also tried to directly install the drivers from the nvidia website
[11:02] <CrystalMare> None worked
[11:02] <Ben64> well you probably screwed with it too much and it's in a weird state
[11:02] <CrystalMare> They either broke my laptop, or did nothing at all
[11:02] <CrystalMare> Ben64, I had to reinstall my operating system, three times
[11:03] <Ben64> which version
[11:03] <CrystalMare> 16.04
[11:03] <CrystalMare> Just the new LTS release
[11:03] <Ben64> if you install it with the internet connected, it should automatically install the nvidia drivers
[11:03] <CrystalMare> There's got to be a way to do it afterwards?
[11:04] <Ben64> yeah but it's much easier to not have to
[11:04] <CrystalMare> And I had it connected to the internet during installation, it even fetched updates
[11:04] <CrystalMare> But thats besides the point, I am not keen on reinstalling my entire operating system again
[11:05] <CrystalMare> And I don't want to break it either, so far, none of the solutions I found online worked.
[11:05] <Ben64> what have you done on this install
[11:05] <CrystalMare> Like, all my development tools
[11:05] <CrystalMare> And I need to use my laptop on a daily basis, so I can't risk it breaking.
[11:05] <Ben64> i mean in relation to nvidia
[11:05] <CrystalMare> Nothing so far
[11:05] <CrystalMare> I left it completely untouched
[11:05] <jarnos> I am unable to use askubuntu.com, https://help.ubuntu.com ... "This site can’t be reached"
[11:05] <Ben64> you just installed 16.04 and thats it?
[11:06] <CrystalMare> Yeah, Ben64 its worth noting, that I am running GNOME 3
[11:06] <Ben64> doesn't matter
[11:06] <CrystalMare> That's what I thought too
[11:06] <Ben64> pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia"
[11:07] <CrystalMare> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23628068/
[11:07] <jarnos> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/  "This site can’t be reached"
[11:08] <Ben64> jarnos: that's on your end
[11:08] <jarnos> same with http://ubuntu.com/
[11:08] <jarnos> google.com works fine
[11:09] <Ben64> CrystalMare: ok... "sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux-headers-$(uname -r | sed s/-[a-z].*//g) linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)"
[11:09] <Ben64> CrystalMare: then... "sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings"
[11:09] <CrystalMare> Ben64, I have a meeting in 20 minutes, can I safely execute these commands?
[11:10] <Ben64> the first one for sure is safe
[11:10] <Ben64> 2nd one should be fine, but i haven't messed with hybrid graphics in person yet
[11:10] <sam_yan> Hi,ALL.In my Ubuntu 14.04 server ,eth0 can not get a ip from dhcp.
[11:10] <sam_yan> is there some solution?
[11:11] <pirx> hello! has anyone set up OpenVPN (server) to run as user nobody in ubuntu here?
[11:11] <CrystalMare> Ben64, it installed just dkms
[11:11] <wyoung> pirx: yes
[11:11] <Ben64> CrystalMare: thats fine
[11:11] <CrystalMare> I'm now running that second command, hold on..
[11:11] <pirx> wyoung: did you get the err mesg (Cannot ioctl TUNSETIFF tun: Operation not permitted)?
[11:12] <wyoung> pirx: no because I set the permissions correctly :)
[11:12] <pirx> wyoung: ah! of course!" but on what? :)
[11:12] <wyoung> /dev/tun*
[11:12] <wyoung> pirx: actually no that isn't right
[11:13] <pirx> but those dont exist
[11:13] <wyoung> pirx: yeah, it is a network permission thing
[11:13] <pirx> wyoung: awaiting eagerly the elusive answer! :)
[11:13] <wyoung> I forget where those are :(
[11:13] <wyoung> pirx: I need to nap :(
[11:14] <CrystalMare> Ben64, what is this DKMS?
[11:14] <pirx> it has to be something about letting user nobody run some command as root or something
[11:14] <Ben64> CrystalMare: Description-en: Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework DKMS is a framework designed to allow individual kernel modules to be upgraded without changing the whole kernel. It is also very easy to rebuild modules as you upgrade kernels.
[11:15] <CrystalMare> Ben64, it finished
[11:16] <pirx> wyoung: perhaps chmod +s on /bin/ip or something?
[11:16] <wyoung> pirx: I dont recommend it
[11:16] <pirx> yeah that might be a bit too much:)
[11:17] <CrystalMare> Ben64, am I to restart my system now?
[11:17] <Ben64> CrystalMare: all the nvidia stuff installed fine?
[11:17] <CrystalMare> I looked through it, didn't spot any errors
[11:18] <CrystalMare> DKMS: install completed.
[11:18] <Ben64> CrystalMare: do you get a result if you do "ls /lib/modules/*/*/dkms/nvidia*ko"
[11:20] <CrystalMare> Ben64, yes, four of them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23628151/
[11:20] <Ben64> well, you got nvidia
[11:20] <CrystalMare> Alright, I'll wait with the restart till after the meeting
[11:20] <Ben64> i still don't have experience with hybrid graphics, but it should work in theory
[11:20] <CrystalMare> Can't risk going into it without my computer ;)
[11:21] <CrystalMare> Thanks so far Ben64
[11:21] <CrystalMare> Ill check back if it somehow doesn't work
[11:26] <dukwon> is there a way to repeat the first-time boot on an OEM ubuntu laptop?
[11:27] <dukwon> our inept IT department decided they wanted to boot an unmanaged laptop to "check what was installed" and gave the user a system that only has a guest account
[11:28] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:28] <raddy> I am using Ubuntu 16.04
[11:28] <raddy> It never asks password upon sudo.
[11:29] <raddy> How to make it to ask password ?
[11:29] <dukwon> does it execute the command?
[11:30] <dukwon> and does your user account have a password?
[11:30] <raddy> dukwon, my user do not have a password :(
[11:31] <OerHeks> raddy, what did you do to remove asking password?
[11:31] <raddy> If i set, will it ask ?
[11:31] <dukwon> yes
[11:31] <OerHeks> sure the user has a password
[11:31] <raddy> Ohhhh okk
[11:31] <dukwon> sudo asks for the password of the user executing the command (not root)
[11:31] <raddy> I am logging using keypair
[11:33] <OerHeks> so you login remotely via SSH?
[11:36] <raddy> sudo passwd change root password or current user password ?
[11:36] <Ben64> just do "passwd" to change your password
[11:36] <wyoung> Ben64: I use that command too
[11:37] <raddy> just using passwd asks previous password
[11:37] <Ben64> yep
[11:37] <OerHeks> login with keys does not mean you have no password
[11:37] <raddy> I am using amazon aws instance and so i have not set password for ubuntu user
[11:37] <wyoung> raddy: not if you sudo it
[11:38] <wyoung> raddy: although you need your previous password too :P unless you set your sudoers file better
[11:38] <OerHeks> raddy, time to tell all details, aws, remote login, ...
[11:38] <OerHeks> passwordless sudo on a AWS machine, awesome
[11:39] <raddy> derfoh, remote login, keypair login, aws, ubuntu ami
[11:40] <raddy> But it is not asking me password when i uses sudo -i
[11:40] <Ben64> check your sudoers file
[11:40] <wyoung> OerHeks: I changed that
[11:40] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[11:47] <CountryfiedLinux> mcphail, Hey I found a workaround.
[11:48] <raddy> My Sudoers file looks exactly as in the wiki
[11:48] <raddy> But still it is not asking me password for sudo -i even after setting password user ubuntu
[11:49] <Ben64> pastebin your sudoers file
[11:49] <CountryfiedLinux> mcphail, With the launcher set to the bottom it doesn't wiggle. I don't know if it's because Plank is there and covers it or what, but this is the closest I can get to removing the launcher. I already have it set to autohide and reveal sensitivity set to 0. After I remove the keyboard shortcut (or change it) it will be gone. From my sight anyway.
[11:50] <raddy> My sudoers file don't have any nopasswd parameter, but still :(
[11:52] <raddy> Ben64, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23628262/
[11:53] <Ben64> raddy: ask amazon
[11:53] <raddy> Ben64, Alas
[11:53] <raddy> My other instance of ubuntu in aws as well is not asking password
[11:57] <raddy> I could not see NOPASSWD parameter in any of aws instance's sudoers file, But it is sttill not asking password :(
[11:57] <Ben64> yep, ask amazon
[11:57] <Amm0n> raddy, maybe the user is in the group admin or sudo
[11:58] <raddy> Amm0n, Figured it out,
[11:58] <Amm0n> raddy, but still ask amazon
[11:59] <Ben64> gonna share with the class?
[11:59] <fishcooker_> anyone here get this blurry windows app like this http://imgur.com/a/pYUu9 Yes im on lubuntu 16.04 ... before upgrading on 14.04 i used to do $ openbox-lubuntu --restart
[11:59] <raddy> Amm0n, AWS explitly disables password prompt for ubuntu user in conf.d/ folder
[11:59] <raddy> I mean sudoers.d/ folder
[12:01] <fishcooker_> but right now the command didn't work anymore... how to restart the X on Lubuntu
[12:02] <Ben64> fishcooker_: something like systemctl restart lightdm
[12:03] <sruli> is there a way to compress deb files?
[12:04] <Ben64> gzip file.deb
[12:04] <sruli> Ben64 output is exactly same size.. i am trying to compress to smaller size
[12:05] <Ben64> not everything is compressible
[12:05] <pirx> has anyone (else) set up OpenVPN (server) to run as user nobody in ubuntu here?
[12:05] <raddy> One question
[12:05] <raddy> Normal user is not allowed to enter /etc/sudoers.d/ folder
[12:06] <raddy> NP
[12:06] <raddy> Figured it
[12:08] <Amm0n> raddy, check the last line of your sudoers file too, if you want to use /etc/sudoers.d
[12:08] <sruli> Ben64: i tried 10 different deb files all were the same size even with gzip -9, is there any program that can compress .deb even more?
[12:09] <Ben64> sruli: 7z maybe, but you're probably not going to get much
[12:09] <raddy> All success
[12:10] <sruli> Ben64: 7z enlarged by 2%
[12:10] <Ben64> sruli: there you go, you have your answer
[12:10] <sruli> thanks
[12:10] <EriC^^> sruli: did you try xz ?
[12:10] <EriC^^> just for kicks
[12:11] <Ben64> also, why compress deb
[12:11] <sruli> EriC^^: no, is it installed or do i need to install?
[12:11] <EriC^^> yeah it should be installed
[12:12] <raddy> Can anyone update the wiki about this huge after thought by Amazon AWS default configuration ?
[12:12] <Ben64> it's not really an ubuntu issue
[12:12] <raddy> But it is applicable to Ubuntu as well
[12:13] <Ben64> no?
[12:13] <raddy> No ? I don't get you
[12:13] <Ben64> how is it applicable to ubuntu that amazon messes with the default configuration
[12:13] <fishcooker_> no luck Ben64, any another suggestion ?
[12:14] <sruli> EriC^^: xz -z9e /file same size as original
[12:14] <Ben64> sruli: why compress deb, and which deb
[12:14] <EriC^^> sruli: ok
[12:15] <fishcooker_> the fonts are missing on my session but not on another user session, Ben64
[12:15] <sruli> Ben64: 1 of my PC's are in a remote place with terrible internet connection, i want to download all the updates compress them and then download it at that location
[12:15] <Ben64> fishcooker_: you asked how to restart the gui session
[12:15] <ppf> debs are already packed
[12:15] <Ben64> ^ bingo
[12:15] <raddy> Ben64, I was just suggesting this to be documented for ubuntu to not become a huge botnet by this AWS security issue, if you feel its ok means leave it.
[12:16] <sruli> was just trying, thanks guys
[12:16] <Ben64> raddy: it's an amazon aws issue
[12:16] <Ben64> would be silly to add every custom install to the wiki
[12:16] <fishcooker_> it is possible sruli
[12:16] <fishcooker_> download all update ... it locate on /var/cache/apt like folder
[12:16] <Ben64> if you're on aws, note that blah blah; if you're using linode, note that blah blah; if you're on ovh, note that blah blah
[12:16] <Ben64> when does it end?
[12:17] <sruli> fishcooker_: and then?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:18] <fishcooker_> compress and copy to the remote one using removable media
[12:18] <wyoung> fishcooker_: I like fish too
[12:18] <raddy> Ben64, Good point.
[12:18] <fishcooker_> dpkg -i *.deb sruli
[12:18] <fishcooker_> this fish is rare wyoung
[12:18] <wyoung> fishcooker_: sashimi worthy?
[12:19] <ppf> sruli, fishcooker_: deb files are an ar archive containing 3 files: a package format version, a control archive, a data archive
[12:19] <wyoung> fishcooker_: or just hard to find?
[12:19] <sruli> fishcooker_: compress how? i cant use removable media, got to do it remotely... looking for a way to reduce the deb file size
[12:20] <Ben64> sruli: you can't
[12:20] <ppf> you can't get any significant compression out of tis
[12:20] <ppf> this
[12:20] <fishcooker_> +1 ppf
[12:20] <fishcooker_> here is the blue fin tuna
[12:20] <sruli> i succumbed to that until fishcooker_ wrote "it is possible"...
[12:21] <fishcooker_> but not with the compression one, sruli
[12:21] <fishcooker_> :p
[12:21] <Ben64> just have apt get the updates and wait longer
[12:21] <sruli> thanks
[12:22] <fishcooker_> Ben64: actually what happen with my missing fonts...?
[12:22] <sruli> might have to send it on usb, how do i veryfy checksum of each file before installing?
[12:22] <ppf> dpkg does that for you
[12:23] <sruli> ppf: even if its from removable media?
[12:23] <Peter___1> exit
[12:25] <ppf> the deb files contain checksums for all files it contains
[12:33] <raizzen> hello guys
[12:33] <raizzen> can you help me ?
[12:33] <raizzen> i have a problem whit the sound in ubuntu
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !ask  | raizzen
[12:42] <chawki>  hi evrybody
[12:42] <wyoung> chawki!!!! where you been!?
[12:43] <mrtz> hey chawki
[12:44] <chawki>  hi evrybodyi want to learn about ubuntu
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !fcm | chawki read
[12:45] <wyoung> chawki: you have taken the first step :)
[12:45] <SwedeMike> 2
[12:45] <mrtz> learning by doing, just do it :D
[12:46] <wyoung> nn
[12:46] <chawki> so what do you think if ze add
[12:47] <chawki>  am in class and i am form algeria
[12:47] <cfhowlett> chawki, read full circle magazine.  you willl become an expert
[12:50] <adgtl> So iptables says
[12:50] <adgtl> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             172.17.0.2           tcp dpt:4000
[12:50] <adgtl> but I cant telnet localhost 4000
[12:50] <adgtl> am I missing anything?
[12:52] <adgtl> thing works if I run with port 80
[12:52] <adgtl> but not with 4000
[12:57] <Ben64> adgtl: how would that let you do anything on port 4000
[12:57] <adgtl> Ben64 hmm
[12:57] <adgtl> It's fresh ubuntu machine
[12:57] <dimitristaufer> WHAT
[12:57] <adgtl> and I did not set any ip tables or rules
[12:58] <Ben64> ok?
[12:58] <Ben64> you still need something listening on a port
[12:58] <dimitristaufer> Hey Yo
[12:58] <cfhowlett> dimitristaufer, ask your ubuntu questions
[12:58] <adgtl> Chain DOCKER (1 references)
[12:58] <adgtl> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:58] <adgtl> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             172.17.0.2           tcp dpt:8188
[12:58] <adgtl> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             172.17.0.2           tcp dpt:omniorb
[12:58] <adgtl> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             172.17.0.2           tcp dpt:4000
[12:59] <cfhowlett> adgtl, pastebinit!
[12:59] <dimitristaufer> Difference between REST and SOAP please :)
[12:59] <adgtl> yep..  it did not create pastie
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !details | dimitristaufer,
[13:00] <inick>  hi everybody who practice python in ubuntu
[13:00] <adgtl> So it's running inside docker container
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !python | inick
[13:00] <adgtl> docker-pr 2097     root    4u  IPv6  17257      0t0  TCP *:4000 (LISTEN)
[13:00] <adgtl> and telnet to 4000 says
[13:00] <adgtl> Connection closed by foreign host.
[13:00] <adgtl> not sure what's going on
[13:02] <inick>  how to creat a site web
[13:03] <inick>  how to creat a web site
[13:04] <cfhowlett> inick, there are thousands of tutorials online about how to create a website.   find one.  this is ubuntu support, so focus your questions
[13:04] <OerHeks> !lamp
[13:08] <sofaine>  hi everyboday i'm student frrom algeria i want to learn ubuntu
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !fcm | sofaine read fcm and you will earn expertise
[13:08] <wicope> Hi sudo tune2fs -c1 /dev/sda1 work but sudo tune2fs -c1 /dev/sda6 not work... because reboot and count of sda6 get +1. i see with sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep count and sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda6 | grep count please, what i can do?
[13:11] <islam>  how to creat a site web
[13:12] <cfhowlett> islam, tell everyone in your class: this is not the "how to build a website?" channel, please.
[13:12] <islam>  Hello how can we creat a website
[13:12] <slyrobot> !ARCH
[13:13] <cfhowlett> islam, no.  go to google.  "build + website + ubuntu"
[13:13] <lamin>  hi evrybody i'm student from constantine i want to learn c++ whith ubuntu
[13:13] <islam>  Hello how can we creat a websitno ibnformation for c++
[13:13] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, the whole classroom is on a trip to IRC
[13:14] <brainwash> wicope: maximum mount count is unchanged after reboot?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, yeah, I figured.
[13:14] <islam>  privmsg #ubuntu :privmsg #ubuntu : Hello
[13:14] <lamin>  hi evrybody i'm student from constantine i want to learn JAVA whith ubuntu
[13:14] <islam>  Hello how can we creat a websitprivmsg #ubuntu : Hello me too
[13:14] <brainwash> first c++, now java?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !fcm | islam   lamin     get off of IRC.  READ fc
[13:15] <OerHeks> islam lamin sofaine, websites are out, learn to build your own webapp https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/web/tutorials/web-app-tutorial/
[13:15] <OerHeks> !manual
[13:15] <islam>  it is me
[13:15] <cerion> hi. Why do I have 2 scope global unicast ipv6 address for my enp1s0 interface ???
[13:16] <brainwash> wicope: you should share the terminal output, so that we can see what those commands return
[13:16] <wicope> brainwash, yes i think that i use disk-managar for mount /dev/sda6 Probably that's why
[13:17] <brainwash> wicope: yeah. that is probably the culprit
[13:18] <islam>  vprivmprivmsg #ubuntu : try tu see this site http://askubuntu.com/questions/141397/why-do-i-get-multiple-global-ipv6-addresses-listed-in-ifconfig
[13:19] <islam>  try tu see this site http://askubuntu.com/questions/141397/why-do-i-get-multiple-global-ipv6-addresses-listed-in-ifconfigprivmsg #ubuntu : try tu see this site http://askubuntu.com/questions/141397/why-do-i-get-muprivmsg #ubuntu : good bye my frien
[13:19] <islam> privmsg #ubuntu :  good bye evry one and good chanse
[13:20] <cfhowlett> good luck islam
[13:20] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[13:20] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I change the keyboard shortcut for opening the menu?
[13:21] <CountryfiedLinux> I want Slingscold as my menu but after changing it to Super key it still launches the standard Ubuntu menu instead and didn't give me the option to replace. I didn't even see the Ubuntu menu in the keyboard shortcuts, not even listed at all.
[13:23] <OerHeks> CountryfiedLinux, basicly you need to remap the winkey to some other freekey, then you should map that key to that slingsold menu http://askubuntu.com/questions/137172/how-to-remap-superleft-key-to-control-key as example
[13:31] <yeeve> my /bin/cat command is outputting text with colours :S I guess I've changed or installed something I shouldn't have but not sure where to start looking. I've checked bashrc and alias files and nothing obvious yet
[13:31] <yeeve> oh I'm using bash it, maybe something there
[13:34] <CountryfiedLinux> What did I do wrong here? www.pastebin.com/XDpMumhG ?
[13:36] <SonikkuAmerica> CountryfiedLinux: Get rid of the -pm switch and try again.
[13:38] <rory> yeeve: is it actually /bin/cat which does it, or just "cat" ?
[13:39] <CountryfiedLinux> pastebin.com/m6Y355sX
[13:39] <yeeve> cat == /bin/cat for me. It seems it was 'bash it' that was adding colours to everything (maybe due to theme?) so I commented out the source to do the cat-ing I needed :/ weird but bypass-able
[13:39] <SonikkuAmerica> CountryfiedLinux: "This page has been removed!"
[13:40] <CountryfiedLinux> pastebin.com/m6Y35SXx
[13:41] <SonikkuAmerica> CountryfiedLinux: Try [ xmodmap -e remove mod4 = Super_L ]
[13:43] <CountryfiedLinux> SonikkuAmerica, With brackets?
[13:43] <SonikkuAmerica> No
[13:43] <CountryfiedLinux> oh ok
[13:43] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm doing this in vbox so can't do copy/paste. It'll take a minute.
[13:45] <artg02> hi all :)
[13:45] <CountryfiedLinux> SonikkuAmerica, www.pastebin.com/yF3EdveX
[13:47] <iparhan> hello
[13:47] <iparhan> was ther anybody here  ?
[13:48] <iparhan> I have a problem with terminal
[13:48] <iparhan> my terminal cant update
[13:48] <iparhan> i typed sudo apt-get update & upgrade
[13:48] <iparhan> its appear sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:50] <zhengsheng> someone here
[13:50] <CountryfiedLinux> SonikkuAmerica, I think I may have it now.
[13:51] <CountryfiedLinux> SonikkuAmerica, Thanks. If not brb.
[13:51] <artg02> zhengsheng: sure :)
[13:51] <zhengsheng> what mean SonikkuAmerica
[13:51] <diomostro> sporco
[13:51] <SonikkuAmerica> zhengsheng: Hi. State your question/problem, please.
[13:53] <teeeeeeeeeeeeeej> Good morning.  I was wondering if there was a network status page or something for archive.canonical.com.  Updating my system seems to hang a little bit when trying to contact that server.
[13:53] <zhengsheng> what mean word brb
[13:54] <Alexey1> hi
[13:54] <zhengsheng> hi
[13:54] <SonikkuAmerica> teeeeeeeeeeeeeej: It works for me, I just pulled up its main dir tree in a Web browser
[13:54] <SonikkuAmerica> zhengsheng: It's Internet slang for "be right back"...
[13:54] <adrian_1908> I'm trying to install 16.10 but get a pink screen before the LiveCD loads. I found a few old posts online, but was wondering whether there is a current recommendation on what to do.
[13:55] <SonikkuAmerica> adrian_1908: Does the "pink screen" have white stuff at the bottom?
[13:55] <adrian_1908> SonikkuAmerica: no, all pixels are pink, no patter anywhere.
[13:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Got it done SonikkuAmerica :D Found the info further down the page. Simpler than what I tried before.
[13:55] <adrian_1908> *pattern
[13:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Thanks.
[13:55] <Alexey1> how to install drivers for Intel HD Graphics Bay Trail? official site not helped
[13:56]  * adrian_1908 brb in 1 min
[13:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !nomodeset | adrian_1908
[13:58] <zhengsheng> W: 仓库 “http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security Release” 没有 Release 文件。
[13:58] <zhengsheng> N: 无法认证来自该源的数据，所以使用它会带来潜在风险。
[13:58] <zhengsheng> N: 参见 apt-secure(8) 手册以了解仓库创建和用户配置方面的细节。
[13:58] <zhengsheng> W: http://archive.ubuntukylin.com:10006/ubuntukylin/dists/xenial/InRelease: 密钥 6CE35A4EBAB676094476BE7CD259B7555E1D3C58 生成的数字签名使用了弱安全性摘要算法(SHA1)
[13:58] <zhengsheng> W: 无法下载 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease  暂时不能解析域名“cn.archive.ubuntu.com”
[13:58] <zhengsheng> W: 无法下载 http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/sid/InRelease  暂时不能解析域名“www.deb-multimedia.org”
[13:59] <SonikkuAmerica> !paste | zhengsheng
[13:59] <mcphail> CountryfiedLinux: :) - awkward workaround but well found!
[14:00] <zhengsheng> sorry
[14:01] <adrian_1908> SonikkuAmerica: I don't have the described menu at the bottom, but i'll try if F6 makes anything pop up. I'll rejoin this channel from another machine so I can communicate while trying stuff. thanks.
[14:02] <CountryfiedLinux> mcphail, Now the launcher no longer shows up AT ALL! :D It's as if it's been deleted.
[14:05] <zhengsheng> sudo apt-get update
[14:05] <zhengsheng> error
[14:07] <SonikkuAmerica> !cn | zhengsheng , unfortunately I can't read the Chinese output of your terminal, but perhaps the people in these channels can help. Also, try #ubuntukylin
[14:09] <artg02> I have a linux 16.04 machine virtualised in proxmox in a container
[14:09] <artg02> I want to use openbox in it, to use firefox in the machine for some basic managment of other machines
[14:09] <artg02> I kind of get the feeling that this is not possible
[14:09] <artg02> When I look in the logs of "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" I see things as "cannot open /dev/tty0"
[14:09] <artg02> Am I trying something that is not possible?
[14:09] <SonikkuAmerica> zhengsheng: Actually, DON'T try #ubuntukylin , there's no one there. #ubuntu-cn and/or #ubuntu-tw should be able to help
[14:15] <IhrFussel> Question about mv command: If you move a file to a directory that doesn't exist...is the file supposed to disappear?
[14:15] <EriC^^> IhrFussel: no, it just renames the file
[14:16] <IhrFussel> EriC^^, oh so the file is the "directory" now?
[14:16] <EriC^^> yes
[14:17] <subho99> Hey guys, I am facing problems creating a hotspot on my PC. I followed this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/762846/how-to-creat-wifi-hotspot-in-ubuntu-16-04-since-ap-hotspot-is-no-more-working
[14:18] <arann> join /#joly
[14:18] <arann> help
[14:18] <EriC^^> subho99: explain your problem in details
[14:18] <subho99> But at the step where I am supposed to connect to the Hidden Wifi Network, when I select my just created network, it's showing this error message: (2) Connection 'Wi-Fi connection 1' is not available on the device wlx00e04d00259c at this time.
[14:18] <EriC^^> what you did and what happens
[14:19] <EriC^^> subho99: why are you making it hidden?
[14:19] <subho99> Eric^^: Please see the guide link I provided. In that at step 5, I am getting the above error.
[14:20] <subho99> Eric^^: It's said in that guide. Well, let me try by not making it hidden.
[14:20] <EriC^^> subho99: click on create network from the network manager icon
[14:20] <EriC^^> forget the guide
[14:21] <EriC^^> create new wifi network, then put a pass, after that click the icon again, edit connections > select it, change the mode from ad-hoc to ap
[14:21] <EriC^^> and choose wpa2 instead of wep
[14:21] <EriC^^> then restart network manager with sudo service network-manager restart
[14:21] <Jonno_FTW> Is it okay to purge the grub-efi-amd64-signed package? I got mmy grub working with the boot repair program
[14:22] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: why would you remove it
[14:22] <subho99> Eric^^: Will do.
[14:22] <EriC^^> if you're using uefi keep it
[14:22] <Jonno_FTW> every time I use apt, it complains that the package is not fully installed
[14:22] <Jonno_FTW> grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[14:22] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: type "ls /sys/firmware/efi"
[14:22] <Jonno_FTW> I'm not using uefi though
[14:22] <EriC^^> give it a shot and report back
[14:23] <Jonno_FTW> there's no efi firmware
[14:23] <subho99> Eric^^: I am getting the error again, when I try to create the new network. This is being displayed: (2) Connection 'xyzabc' is not available on the device wlx00e04d00259c at this time.
[14:23] <Jonno_FTW> only dmi acp and memap
[14:24] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: ok
[14:24] <subho99> That same error is occuring multiple times.
[14:24] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: type dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:25] <EriC^^> subho99: maybe your card can't do ap ?
[14:25] <Jonno_FTW> I don't want to use uefi though
[14:25] <subho99> Nah, It can. It does in Windows at least
[14:26] <EriC^^> subho99: i get the same error when i try to create a hotspot
[14:26] <EriC^^> my other laptop doesn't do it
[14:26] <Jonno_FTW> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/xpis
[14:26] <subho99> Eric^^: It is connecting to other available wifi networks, but it can't create a hotspot
[14:27] <EriC^^> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[14:27] <subho99> Eric^^: Mine's a Railink Technologies card
[14:27] <EriC^^> type lspci | grep Network
[14:27] <EriC^^> aha
[14:27] <EriC^^> the other is ralink i think and it works
[14:28] <EriC^^> subho99: are you using the wifi at the same time?
[14:28] <subho99> No, I am connected to Ethernet Network
[14:28] <EriC^^> subho99: if you set the connection to ad hoc does it work?
[14:28] <diomostro> chi
[14:29] <diomostro> sporcizia
[14:29] <subho99> Eric^^: lspci | grep Network produces no result
[14:29] <diomostro> sudiciume
[14:29] <EriC^^> !it | diomostro
[14:29] <subho99> Eric^^: I can't create the damned connection. I think I can change it only after creating it, correct?
[14:30] <diomostro> i dont speak mcdonalds
[14:30] <EriC^^> subho99: yeah
[14:30] <Lerz> please diomostro speak english
[14:30] <subho99> Eric^^: While creating a new wifi network I am getting this error.
[14:30] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: wow all the packages are the efi ones
[14:31] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: try "grep efi /etc/fstab"
[14:31] <subho99> Eric^^: Can it occur due any driver error?
[14:32] <Lerz> how do I install LTSP?
[14:32] <EriC^^> subho99: no idea
[14:32] <adrian_1908> I'm still having trouble with the LiveCD. I added `nomodeset` to the boot parameters and can boot into the LiveCD, but the resolution is stuck at 640x480 (no other options available) and that will not allow me to see enough of the installer GUI to get throught the installation.
[14:33] <EriC^^> subho99: try rfkill list maybe it'll show something?
[14:33] <EriC^^> subho99: also see if there's anything in dmesg
[14:33] <EriC^^> subho99: i wonder if you can start the create wifi editor from the terminal if it'll display more info about it
[14:34] <subho99> rfkill shows it's not blocked.
[14:34] <Lerz> what's error 619?
[14:34] <subho99> Eric^^: Could you tell me how to do that from the terminal?
[14:34] <EriC^^> subho99: try unity-control-center network
[14:34] <EriC^^> then try use as hotspot
[14:35] <hongliangsam> hi
[14:36] <subho99> Eric^^: I kindda lost you there. Once more?
[14:36] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: can alt + f7/f8 help ?
[14:37] <adrian_1908> EriC^^:  at what stage, when in the LiveCD Desktop?
[14:37] <EriC^^> subho99: try "unity-control-center network" in the terminal
[14:37] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: try xrandr to set a new resolution
[14:38] <funabashi> hey guys anyone know how i can get syntax help in pico/nano when i code/scripting?
[14:38] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: alt+f7/f8 can move the window around if you cant click on the move borders and stuff
[14:38] <subho99> Eric^^: I am using mate. So, will install the unity control center first
[14:38] <EriC^^> subho99: no nevermind
[14:38] <EriC^^> subho99: do you have any shortcut icon that gets you the network options?
[14:38] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: i will try if xrandr works. booting back into LiveCD now, will report back.
[14:38] <EriC^^> subho99: in the menu somewhere
[14:39] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: ok are you familiar with xrandr?
[14:39] <subho99> Eric^^: I have the network manager icon in the panel at top.
[14:39] <EriC^^> subho99: anything in the menu?
[14:39] <EriC^^> subho99: try grep Name=Network /usr/share/applications/*
[14:40] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: i'm not, and i just ran it "Screen 0: minimum 640x480, current ..., maximum 640 x 480" So no luck there I guess.
[14:40] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: I'm using a GeForce GTX 970
[14:41] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: aha
[14:41] <subho99> Eric^^: I have downloaded ubuntu-control-center. Here's the result of grep: http://termbin.com/dzl4
[14:42] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: in 16.04 I didn't need to do anything, but maybe the kernel jump from 4.4 to 4.8 made sufficient changes to cause this?
[14:42] <EriC^^> subho99: try grep Exec /usr/share/applications/unity-network-panel.desktop
[14:43] <EriC^^> try "grep Name=Network /usr/share/applications/* | cut -d: -f1 | xargs grep Exec"
[14:44] <Jonno_FTW> EriC^^: UUID=49D8-1E08/boot/efivfatdefaults01
[14:44] <subho99> Eric^^: I have downloaded unity-control-center but it has no panel called network
[14:44] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: ok, it's mounting an efi partition apparently
[14:44] <subho99> Eric^^: Here, the last one : http://termbin.com/kqvf
[14:44] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: can you pastebin the output of sudo parted -l ?
[14:44] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: I'll try if alt-f7/f8 gets me through the installation. I guess i'll be better equipped to fix it from there. I just hope that it _can_ be fixed without detrimental caveats.
[14:45] <EriC^^> subho99: try "network-admin"
[14:45] <EriC^^> subho99: also did you check dmesg after trying to create the hotspot?
[14:46] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: yeah it should be fixable
[14:46] <subho99> Eric^^: What to do in network-admin ?
[14:46] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: worse case scenario you can use the minimal install image to install it
[14:46] <Jonno_FTW> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23629018/
[14:46] <EriC^^> subho99: is there a create wifi network there?
[14:46] <j_bro> Hi #Ubuntu, any help how I can play.avi on my meizu pro 5 Ubuntu edition ? Ubuntu 15.04 ota14
[14:47] <EriC^^> j_bro: using vlc , 15.04 is unsupported now, you should update to 16.04 when you can
[14:47] <subho99> Eric^^: Nope. All options are greyed out.
[14:48] <EriC^^> j_bro: you won't receive updates and stuff currently and security updates too
[14:49] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: ok, so do you want to convert to legacy (vs uefi) fully?
[14:49] <EriC^^> Jonno_FTW: it's using grub legacy right now in the mbr, and there's an efi partition, and grub efi is installed as the package
[14:50] <subho99> Eric^^: In the dmesg, there's something about link not ready.
[14:50] <EriC^^> subho99: does "mate-network-properties" give anything useful?
[14:51] <j_bro> Eric^^ cheers much apreciated!
[14:51] <EriC^^> j_bro: no problem
[14:51] <subho99> Eric^^: Here, you can see it: http://pastebin.com/CDZmZ35x
[14:52] <EriC^^> subho99: try "nmcli dev wifi list"
[14:52] <subho99> Eric^^: Nah, it just contains proxies. I have not not connected to any proxies
[14:53] <subho99> Eric^^: It gives me the available Wi-fi networks (of my neighbours)
[14:54] <EriC^^> subho99: is there any "*" next to them?
[14:54] <subho99> Eric^^: Nope, http://termbin.com/u5ia
[14:56] <EriC^^> subho99: ok
[14:56] <EriC^^> subho99: try lspci | grep Ralink
[14:57] <subho99> Eric^^: No reult
[14:57] <subho99> I see, the driver's not installed
[14:58] <EriC^^> try lspci -nvv
[14:59] <subho99> Eric^^: Can't understand anything. Here: http://termbin.com/ywu4
[15:00] <subho99> Eric^^: The only error line in dmesg is [   35.668461] mate-panel[1442]: segfault at cb ip b6b71a89 sp bfbbe800 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.4800.1[b6b0d000+127000]
[15:00] <mikeymop> god, i wish I was this advanced with linux
[15:00] <mikeymop> diagnosing wifi always defeated me
[15:01] <EriC^^> subho99: sorry, lspci -nnv
[15:02] <subho99> Eric^^: No, there is no Railink Driver. http://termbin.com/10o2
[15:03] <EriC^^> subho99: ralink is missing from lspci somehow
[15:03] <EriC^^> it doesn't even see the card
[15:03] <EriC^^> i've no idea about that, nmcli seems to be using it though
[15:04] <EriC^^> is it a usb card?
[15:04] <subho99> Eric^^: Yeah. It's a USB Wifi Adapter
[15:05] <EriC^^> subho99: oh ok, try sudo lshw -C Network
[15:07] <nicomach1s> [19:51] <OerHeks> nicomachus, sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth , apply the changes, sudo update-initramfs -u
[15:07] <nicomach1s> OerHeks: I did this yesterday, but I'm still getting that MATE splash screen when I logged in this morning.
[15:07] <subho99> Eric^^: It's recognising a wireless interface. http://termbin.com/87l4
[15:09] <EriC^^> subho99: maybe the driver doesn't support it?
[15:10] <EriC^^> try iwconfig and see the Hot spot
[15:10] <OerHeks> nicomach1s, odd :-(
[15:10] <EriC^^> access point, i think if it says not associated then the driver doesn't support it, could be wrong, maybe somebody whose hotspot is known to be working can try iwconfig
[15:12] <EriC^^> subho99: seems so http://askubuntu.com/questions/835933/access-point-mode-not-supported/836046
[15:12] <subho99> Eric^^: There's no hotspot here, http://termbin.com/fy9y
[15:12] <Anthaas> With Ubuntu 16.04 installed, is it possible to dual boot Windows?
[15:13] <Anthaas> Everything I find describes installing Ubuntu after Windows.
[15:13] <EriC^^> Anthaas: yeah it's possible
[15:14] <EriC^^> Anthaas: shrink the ubuntu partition and install windows, then use a live ubuntu usb to reinstall grub
[15:14] <EriC^^> Anthaas: windows has to be on a primary partition though
[15:14] <EriC^^> and if you're using a gpt partition it has to be using uefi mode
[15:14] <EriC^^> pastebin sudo parted -l if you want
[15:15] <subho99> Eric^^: So, I need to find a patched driver somewhere, huh?
[15:15] <Anthaas> Ok. This is going to be difficult. haha.
[15:15] <EriC^^> subho99: appears so, check the mediatek website in case they released new drivers for the current kernel
[15:15] <EriC^^> that thread is like 4-5 years ago
[15:16] <EriC^^> Anthaas: type "sudo parted -l" in a terminal and paste the results in paste.ubuntu.com
[15:16] <EriC^^> i can tell you what you'll need to do more
[15:17] <EriC^^> those were just fyi's it might be pretty straightforward
[15:18] <Anthaas> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23629176/
[15:19] <EriC^^> Anthaas: so you want to install windows to the ssd?
[15:19] <Anthaas> Yeah - makes the most sense to me.
[15:19] <Anthaas> Alongside Ubuntu.
[15:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> or you can run windows in a vm, but that's a bit harder.
[15:20] <Anthaas> Its a lot slower too
[15:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> not really.
[15:20] <EriC^^> Anthaas: ok, ubuntu is using uefi mode, so you need to shrink some space out of sdb2 using a live usb and gparted
[15:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> i mean, you could do gpu passthrough, hugepages, virtio...
[15:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm getting only ~5% performance hit versus running windows baremetal.
[15:21] <EriC^^> Anthaas: then boot the windows cd/usb in uefi mode and choose the manual partitioner, if you can get it to use the efi partition (/dev/sdb1) which you already have that would be great, and make the partition for windows using the unallocated space you got from shrinking ubuntu
[15:22] <subho99> Eric^^: The mediatek site is only providing Windows drivers for my device
[15:23] <EriC^^> Anthaas: if it won't just use the efi partition, then maybe delete the ubuntu efi partition, and create another one in the windows installer in its place and later after you install windows boot the live usb and you can tell ubuntu to use the new efi partition (you'll need to modify /etc/fstab from a chroot and then reinstall grub)
[15:24] <Anthaas> Sounds like an utter ballache haha
[15:24] <Anthaas> Perhaps installing Windows and then running Ubuntu alongside it might be easier...
[15:25] <EriC^^> it's up to you
[15:25] <Anthaas> EriC^^: Thanks for your time. I've done the other way round several times.
[15:26] <EriC^^> Anthaas: ok, no problem :)
[15:27] <subho99> Eric^^: I was provided with a linux driver when I bought the device.
[15:27] <Anthaas> I guess the next question is how do I make a good backup in my Ubuntu filesystem so that I can "re-attach" it once I've created the Ubuntu partition.
[15:27] <nicomach1s> OerHeks: this is a VM in vbox with yakkety guest and windows host, if that makes any difference.
[15:28] <subho99> Eric^^: But, when I try to make install the driver , it gives a heapload of errors.
[15:30] <f4nb0x> hi everybody
[15:30] <adrian_1908> EriC^^:  just a quick feedback: passing the necessary (to even boot) "nomodeset" parameters cause the Nvidia driver to fail loading, so I was on "vendor: SGI" and hence had 640x480 max res. In additional-drivers, I switched from Nvidia binary (enabled) to nouvea and then back in the hopes this would trigger something, logged out and back into the LiveCD and that did it.
[15:30] <artg02> f4nb0x: hey, how are you?
[15:31] <f4nb0x> can someone please help about my acpi :(
[15:31] <f4nb0x> beginner here. and its my first time using hexchat lol
[15:32] <EriC^^> Anthaas: you can either get a list of installed apps and your data and then copy them back and auto reinstall the list of packages or tar the whole filesystem and just create another ext4 later and extract it and then also chroot and reinstall grub
[15:32] <EriC^^> Anthaas: first option is easier and just involves redownloading all packages if you have a good connection and traffic limit it's not a big deal i guess
[15:32] <EriC^^> subho99: aha
[15:32] <EriC^^> subho99: did you try installing it?
[15:32] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: awesome
[15:33] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: awesome! well done
[15:33] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: thanks for reporting back, that'll come in handy
[15:34] <adrian_1908> ok, cool. thanks for helping.
[15:34] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: no problem
[15:35] <subho99> Eric^^: It doesn't contain a configure file. But has a make file. So, when I do "make". After some processing it produces some error. Linux Make file error 2 or something
[15:36] <EriC^^> subho99: what does it mention before that?
[15:37] <f4nb0x> anyone please help me how to get rid of my problem about acpi please. newbie here :D
[15:38] <subho99> Eric^^: Wait, I think I need to install build-essentials first, right? I forgot about it.
[15:38] <jhutchins> subho99: There should be a README file, and possibly an INSTALL file.
[15:38] <MazetteBot> I'm
[15:38] <MazetteBot> I'm
[15:39] <Darkchaos> Hey Guys, I am trying to build a kernel module as replacement for an existing one however `insmod`always seems to pick up the precompiled one
[15:39]  * f4nb0x sad
[15:39] <nicomach1s> !details | f4nb0x
[15:39] <graingert> is archive.canonical.com down for anyone else?
[15:39] <graingert> http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20161213.1.orig.tar.gz
[15:40] <jhutchins> Darkchaos: https://wiki.debian.org/depmod
[15:40] <graingert> seems not to download
[15:40] <EriC^^> subho99: yes
[15:41] <jhutchins> graingert: http://www.isup.me/
[15:41] <f4nb0x> i cant read 'dmesg' but i think something is wrong
[15:41] <jhutchins> graingert: Looks down.
 There is a readme file. But, I don't think I have to do anything else other than make.
[15:41] <jhutchins> f4nb0x: What do you mean you can't read it?
[15:41] <graingert> jhutchins: back up now, I guess you fixed it
[15:42] <EriC^^> subho99: does it list any dependencies?
[15:42] <jhutchins> subho99: The readme file should have build instructions.
[15:43] <f4nb0x> its my first month using ubuntu bro :)
[15:43] <jhutchins> graingert: Might be intermittent, like part of a load balancing system is down.
[15:43] <nicomach1s> f4nb0x: ok we need more details though.
[15:43] <f4nb0x> @jhutchins i have this error "ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000428-0x000000000000042F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000400-0x000000000000047F (\PMIO) (20150930/utaddress-254)"
[15:44] <subho99> Eric^^, jhutchins: There, are build instructions. However, the changes that I am supposed to make are already made.
[15:44] <jhutchins> f4nb0x: What is the actual problem?
[15:44] <subho99> Eric^^ jhutchins : Here's the output of make: http://termbin.com/c854
[15:47] <f4nb0x> @jhutchins i dont know if i should ignore acpi warning or resolve it
[15:47] <subho99> jhutchins: There, is said to define GCC ad LD of target machine, but I don't know how to do that.
[15:49] <yeeve> anyone in chat had firefox locking up with 100% cpu recently? been using chrome for a week now :( I've removed addons/extensions and tried about:performance but not sure what's changed. I was running fine for 1 year with 10+ addons and no issues :s
[15:49] <Random832> yeeve, what websites are you going on? flash tends to cause high cpu usage for me
[15:49] <Random832> if i go on a site that uses flash for ads
[15:50] <Darkchaos> jhutchins: It seems to work, can you maybe give me a hint on what depmod did? (Since I used an already existing driver with already existing dependencies, actually).
[15:51] <jhutchins> f4nb0x: I think you can ignore it unless you see some problem elsewhere.
[15:51] <yeeve> Random832, nothing really flash based but I did consider that. The current lock-up happened when I was using a prestashop (e-comm platform) website but I've been using this site for a few months now and the issues only happened semi-recently. (sometimes it's gmail or gitlab so it could be heavy js or something but my browsing habits havn't changed at all in the last year)
[15:51] <jhutchins> Darkchaos: Loosely speaking depmod builds a table of available modules and their dependencies.
[15:52] <Darkchaos> But how did it find out about my module in ~/my_module? Or maybe that happend because I used the target module_install which create the extra folder in /sys/modules?
[15:54] <f4nb0x> jhutchins thanks
[15:55] <jhutchins> Darkchaos: It apparently found int in the path it expects modules to be in.
[15:55] <subho99> Any ideas as to what causes this error?
[15:59] <subho99> Eric^^: Could you please see the driver installation yourself, here's the link: http://www.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=1984365
[16:00] <newtoUbuntu> hey guys
[16:00] <nicomach1s> hi newtoUbuntu
[16:01] <EriC^^> subho99: are you sure that's the driver for your card?
[16:02] <EriC^^> i think your card is the 6701
[16:02] <subho99> Yeah, but the drivers are same
[16:03] <subho99> That's what the net tells me anyway
[16:03] <nicomach1s> not everything you read on the internet is true.
[16:03] <nicomach1s> that includes that statement ^
[16:04] <subho99> But for many other Mediatek devices, that is what's being provided.
[16:05] <subho99> Even, in the official site searching MT7601 gives me that driver only.
[16:07] <newtoUbuntu> I installed an application. If i start it via the Ubuntu Dash, i can see it for 3 seconds on my launcher, then it disappears. Not giving me any error message. How can i search for the error messages? Are there logs?
[16:08] <subho99> Eric^^: My device is RT5370, I can provide you the Dropbox link that the supplier provided. It contains a different version for the same device, i.e RT2870
[16:09] <subho99> Eric^^: This one : https://www.dropbox.com/s/hifqv9zkhfu2cw0/DPO_MT7601U_LinuxSTA_3.0.0.4_20130913.tar.bz2?dl=0
[16:10] <subho99> Eric^^: You can get the same version on Mediatek's official site. I got it a few days ago
[16:11] <EriC^^> subho99: i'm trying to compile the first one, it failed
[16:12] <yzT> does ubuntu server 14.04 have something enabled by default to block connections if a determined IP is sending too much traffic? I'm not speaking about iptables, ufw, selinux or apparmor (only iptables is enabled of those 4). I got a coworker telling me that ubuntu has such a "filter" by default, but he can't prove his facts
[16:12] <EriC^^> subho99: checking the dropbox
[16:13] <subho99> Eric^^: If you see the build instructions, there's something about GCC and LD, in step 3>
[16:13]  * yangm97 just rebooted its home server because autofs got stuck again
[16:13] <subho99> Eric^^: I didn't get what that was
[16:15] <Welastevil> hi guys!
[16:15] <Welastevil> could someone lease help me with this?
[16:15] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/6taJpzXD
[16:16] <Welastevil> how can I solve this: ncmatrix.c:1045:22: warning: unused variable 'start' [-Wunused-variable]
[16:16] <Welastevil>    int i = 0, j = 0, Yy
[16:17] <nacc> Welastevil: you probalby want a programming channel. Also that's justa  warning, it can be ignored
[16:17] <Welastevil> ok thanks!
[16:19] <quantibility> ok
[16:19] <EriC^^> subho99: i think it's using gcc, i couldn't get it to build though
[16:20] <mathayus> \q
[16:20] <subho99> Eric^^: So, the 2nd one also didn't build right?
[16:20] <quantibility> so i made the switch from xubuntu to ubuntu i did compress my home fold from xubuntu... can i restore the homefolder to the new ubuntu?? or ? where am i at?
[16:20] <EriC^^> subho99: this is what i got http://termbin.com/27kl
[16:20] <EriC^^> subho99: yeah
[16:21] <EriC^^> subho99: try newer github versions out there that are reputable
[16:21] <subho99> Eric^^: Pretty similar to my error. I guess the driver is faulty
[16:21] <EriC^^> subho99: that driver is made for kernel 2.4 and 2.6, it's pretty old
[16:21] <subho99> Eric^^: What to do then?
[16:22] <quantibility> anyone?
[16:22] <EriC^^> subho99: the easiest thing to do would be to get a known to work wireless card
[16:23] <EriC^^> they're pretty cheap and there must be a list of ones with ap mode that work on ubuntu easily
[16:24] <subho99> Okay then, I will buy a new one
[16:24] <subho99> Thanks for helping me out buddy.
[16:25] <nicomach1s> subho99: if you're going for a USB dongle, I highly recommend Panda brand. if you're looking for a NIC, then Intel is always safe.
[16:25] <EriC^^> subho99: this seems promising https://github.com/housq/mt7601u/
[16:25] <EriC^^> that only works in ap mode
[16:26] <EriC^^> i got it from this thread https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u/issues/4
[16:26] <EriC^^> nicomach1s: he wants one that supports AP mode, any ideas about that?
[16:29] <kassab> Hello
[16:30] <subho99> Eric^^: I build that one, successfully
[16:30] <EriC^^> subho99: nice
[16:30] <kassab> Anyone else having problems with ubuntu updates recently ?
[16:30] <subho99> Now, how to check if the driver's installed corectly
[16:31] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[16:31] <subho99> I mean if it is recognising?
[16:31] <kassab> Yep
[16:32] <EriC^^> subho99: try to first blacklist the one it's using right now i think, then modprobe the new one i think
[16:32] <yellabs-r2> i kinda miss the option , for usb live creator, to make a permanent space..
[16:32] <subho99> Eric^^: That error still occurs, the one when creating a new wifi connection
[16:32] <nicomach1s> EriC^^: ah... that's a bit different.
[16:32] <subho99> Eric^^: Please explain in detail?
[16:33] <yellabs-r2> i also noticed that the create startup disk makes a disk that is flagged "broken" when looking at the partition with gparted
[16:33] <yellabs-r2> does any one know whats going on ?
[16:33] <nicomach1s> EriC^^: I think that most of Panda's dongles do. mine does.
[16:34] <EriC^^> subho99: get the name of the driver it's using right now
[16:34] <EriC^^> i think it's rt6701 or so ( check lshw -C Network )
[16:34] <EriC^^> then type sudo modprobe -r rt6701 or whatever you get there
[16:34] <EriC^^> and check that it got removed subho99
[16:34] <kassab> Ubuntu been acting up recently
[16:35] <yellabs-r2> okey , lets try if an update - upgrade helps
[16:35] <yellabs-r2> kassab , how ?
[16:35] <yellabs-r2> ;)
[16:36] <kassab> yellabs-r2: updates not going through heh :-) maybe  just me
[16:36] <yellabs-r2> did you do that on the commandline ?
[16:36] <kassab> yellabs-r2: yep
[16:37] <yellabs-r2> hmm, okey, thats odd, i am doing the same thing right now
[16:37] <subho99> Umm.... Eric^^: I think the driver currently installed is mt7610u only (that I just build)
[16:37] <yellabs-r2> do you use the main server ?
[16:37] <subho99> Eric^^: Here, http://termbin.com/lwi9
[16:38] <subho99> Eric^^: So, should I modprobe that mt7610u ??
[16:38] <EriC^^> subho99: you ran sudo make install right?
[16:38] <subho99> Nope, only make
[16:39] <yellabs-r2> maybe its just slow ?
[16:39] <yellabs-r2> seems to take a long time on the adobe-flashplugin ( wich i did not know i had any how )
[16:40] <subho99> Okay, I just now did it i.e. "sudo make install"
[16:40] <yellabs-r2> thought that html5 video was the default for the web these day's ;)
[16:40] <yellabs-r2> okee, got to go, good luck you all
[16:40] <EriC^^> subho99: try to start fresh from a new unzipped master.zip
[16:41] <EriC^^> subho99: make only compiles the stuff, make install installs the files to the system, there's a build.sh file though
[16:41] <EriC^^> so try first ./build.sh
[16:41] <for{}> hi, guys!
[16:42] <for{}> do you know a dark theme for ubuntu that has black as main background color?
[16:42] <EriC^^> subho99: try "make" then "./load.sh" if the build.sh doesn't work
[16:43] <subho99> Eric^^: Okay build.sh done, but at the end there are fatal error's (some modules not found)
[16:43] <sebboh> Hi all.  I'm using Ubuntu 16.04.  Nothing happens when I click "System Settings...".  What application is supposed to run?
[16:43] <EriC^^> subho99: try "make"
[16:44] <subho99> Okay make done. No errors
[16:44] <EriC^^> subho99: try ./load.sh
[16:45] <subho99> Eric^^: ./load.sh produces errors, modules not found(same ones as in ./build.sh)
[16:45] <xxxx> i just install and purge smuxi, why i'm chating on it?
[16:46] <EriC^^> subho99: let's check the docs on github
[16:46] <subho99> Eric^^: Here's the build.sh http://termbin.com/4acj
[16:46] <xxxx> sudo apt-get install smuxi && sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove smuxi -y (not working)
[16:47] <sebboh> I think the reason my system settings... menu option doesn't work is because I uninstalled "ubuntuone", whatever that is.
[16:48] <EriC^^> subho99: miwifi_build.sh seems promising, it builds everything then complains that it can't create /etc/Wireless
[16:48] <EriC^^> maybe sudo ./miwifi_build.sh would work
[16:48] <sebboh> Apparently the package ubuntu-system-settings (for unity desktop, not to be confused with the KDE4-related package named system-settings) got uninstalled when I uninstalled the online services stuff that came with ubuntu.
[16:48] <EriC^^> i can't find anything about the installation procedure on github or the docs in it O.o
[16:48] <EriC^^> it has the old readme for the old driver
[16:50] <subho99> Eric^^: Okay miwifi_build.sh successfully ran
[16:50] <EriC^^> subho99: with sudo?
[16:50] <subho99> What now?
[16:50] <subho99> Yes with sudo
[16:50] <EriC^^> subho99: check what it put in /etc/Wireless
[16:50] <EriC^^> any .ko files are drivers
[16:51] <sebboh> ...actually bluez is a more direct example.  I removed the bluetooth package because I don't have any bluetooth hardware and it removed the System Settings app.
[16:51] <sebboh> Is anybody there?
[16:51] <subho99> Eric^^: Nah, no .ko files. Only a folder that has a .dat file
[16:53] <EriC^^> subho99: do you still have the terminal open from the build script output?
[16:53] <subho99> Eric^^: Yep
[16:53] <EriC^^> can you paste the last lines after it creates /etc/Wireless?
[16:54] <EriC^^> subho99: i think this is it
[16:55] <EriC^^> ./src/os/linux/mt7601Uap.ko
[16:55] <EriC^^> try find . -iname "*.ko" in the github dir
[16:55] <subho99> Eric^^: Umm....I don't see any line regarding /etc/wireless. It installs a bunch of drivers in /lib/modules/4.4.0-53-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/
[16:55] <EriC^^> subho99: aha any .ko stuff?
[16:56] <EriC^^> i think that file is the one you want /src/os/linux/mt7601Uap.ko
[16:56] <EriC^^> the guy in the thread had mentioned the module just uses ap mode
[16:56] <subho99> Eric^^: It installs plenty .ko stuff in that directory
[16:56] <EriC^^> subho99: try ls -lR /lib/modules/4.4.0-53-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:57] <subho99> Eric^^: http://termbin.com/9j0o
[16:57] <h1n1> heloo
[16:57] <desktop> hello
[16:59] <firc1f655e60> .join #smuxi
[16:59] <desktop> i have a remote desktop on ubuntu 14.04 on server e3 with 16go ram but when i'm on internet i lag sooo much
[16:59] <desktop> it's normal,
[16:59] <desktop> ?
[16:59] <EriC^^> subho99: ok
[16:59] <EriC^^> type sudo modprobe -r mt7601u
[17:00] <subho99> Okay done
[17:00] <EriC^^> subho99: try sudo modprobe mt7601Uap
[17:01] <subho99> Done. (No outputs)
[17:01] <EriC^^> subho99: ok does it show in sudo lshw -C Network ?
[17:01] <EriC^^> try creating the ap and stuff
[17:02] <subho99> Eric^^: Hell, the wifi device is now not even recognized
[17:02] <sebboh> apt-get doesn't seem to be processing /etc/apt/preferences.d/* ...
[17:03] <EriC^^> subho99: try to unplug and plug it
[17:03] <desktop> i try lshw -C
[17:03] <EriC^^> subho99: it should reload the mt7601u i guess
[17:03] <desktop> and i have 1gb/s
[17:03] <EriC^^> then try sudo modprobe mt7601Uap
[17:04] <desktop> 'mt7601u' is for remove wifi driver no?
[17:04] <EriC^^> it's the driver that ships with the kernel, it doesn't support ap mode though
[17:04] <subho99> Eric^^: Done. But still can't create wifi
[17:05] <subho99> hotspot I mean
[17:05] <EriC^^> subho99: what does lshw -C Network show?
[17:05] <subho99> Eric^^: http://termbin.com/yg84
[17:05] <desktop> how can i paste what the terminal show,
[17:05] <desktop> ?
[17:05] <EriC^^> subho99: nope it's not loaded
[17:06] <EriC^^> does lsmod | grep mt7601Uap give anything?
[17:06] <EriC^^> desktop: command | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:06] <EriC^^> !pastebinit | desktop or this
[17:06] <subho99> http://termbin.com/mcf6
[17:07] <wonderworld> hey, i am looking for a console-tool to print out the ascii value of a character... eg . tool "a" -> 97
[17:07] <EriC^^> subho99: appears to be loaded
[17:07] <EriC^^> does iwconfig say that access point is supported?
[17:08] <subho99> Eric^^: Access Point: Not Associated
[17:08] <EriC^^> subho99: maybe you have to remove the mt7601u driver so they dont conflict or something?
[17:08] <EriC^^> subho99: try to add mt7601u to the blacklist
[17:09] <subho99> http://termbin.com/mcf6
[17:09] <subho99> Eric^^: How??
[17:09] <EriC^^> echo "blacklist mt7601u" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:09] <Random832> wonderworld, "unicode" does it (well, among other things prints UTF-8: 61 UTF-16BE: 0061 Decimal: &#97; Octal: \0141)
[17:10] <desktop> i already have problem on internet i don't run the remote desktop from my own pc i run the desktop from server on my webhost , i have a dedicated server
[17:10] <EriC^^> subho99: try sudo modprobe -r mt7601u while the other one is loaded right now
[17:10] <subho99> Eric^^: Done, but still AP not associated
[17:10] <EriC^^> try above
[17:10] <EaglesAreComing> do you know a dark theme for ubuntu that has black as main background color? thanks in advance
[17:10] <subho99> Done^
[17:11] <EriC^^> any luck with the ap?
[17:11] <wonderworld> Random832: thanks
[17:11] <subho99> Now, it doesn't detect it anymore
[17:11] <subho99> Again unplug and plug?
[17:11] <EriC^^> subho99: yes, first open a terminal and type udevadm monitor
[17:11] <EriC^^> and unplug and plug and see what stuff it's loading
[17:13] <EriC^^> subho99: try sudo modprobe rtnet7601Uap too
[17:14] <EriC^^> maybe it needs that module as well
[17:17] <subho99> Eric^^: Sorry there buddy
[17:17] <EriC^^> subho99: np
[17:18] <subho99> Eric^^: But my system froze and then crashed
[17:18] <EriC^^> did you get the msgs about udevadm ?
[17:18] <EriC^^> aha
[17:18] <subho99> Yeah, removed and added msgs came
[17:18] <subho99> But then system crashed
[17:18] <subho99> AND I can't even boot into it
[17:19] <subho99> I am now doing from Windows
[17:20] <EriC^^> subho99: damn
[17:20] <EriC^^> subho99: what happened when you tried booting?
[17:20] <subho99> Eric^^: The booting stops at loading screen (ubuntu mate splash screen). And my Keyboard lights start flashing
[17:20] <subho99> It just stays there
[17:21] <EriC^^>  subho99 try in grub pressing "e" then go to the line that says "linux /boot/vmlinuz .... quiet splash" and remove quiet splash and press ctrl+x
[17:22] <EriC^^> subho99: keyboard flashing is probably a kernel panic, if nothing interesting shows maybe booting into an older kernel from the advanced menu might help
[17:22] <subho99> Eric^^: Okay, am going to try now.
[17:23] <himanshu> Hi, I am getting this error message while gsetting set key value. GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications. Please help me out.
[17:26] <subho99> Eric^^: Thanks buddy, it worked.
[17:26] <EriC^^> older kernel?
[17:26] <subho99> No, just removing the quiet splash
[17:26] <EriC^^> ok
[17:26] <subho99> So, what now
[17:27] <EriC^^> try lshw -C network
[17:27] <EriC^^> it shouldn't have loaded the mt7601u since it's blacklisted
[17:28] <EriC^^> subho99: i think these files need to be loaded rtnet7601Uap.ko
[17:28] <EriC^^> and the mt7601Uap (which loads the rtutil... module as a dependency)
[17:29] <EriC^^> subho99: i think these files need to be loaded rtnet7601Uap.ko and the mt7601Uap (which loads the rtutil... module as a dependency)
[17:29] <subho99> Eric^^: Shit man, as soon as I plug in the USB adapter, my system crashes
[17:29] <subho99> It just now did
[17:29] <EriC^^> subho99: aha
[17:30] <subho99> Until and unless I remove the thing UBUNTU won't boot
[17:30] <EriC^^> try sudo sed -i 's/blacklist mt7601u/#blacklist mt7601u/' /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:31] <subho99> Done Eric^^
[17:31] <EriC^^> that'll comment out the blacklist, maybe cause it's blacklisted something else is loading and its crashing
[17:31] <brunch875> If I connect my phone with rndis enabled, ubuntu is going to use that as internet gateway instead of eth0. How do I avoid this?
[17:31] <subho99> Now, I will insert it?
[17:31] <EriC^^> subho99: yeah give it a shot
[17:31] <subho99> Okay, it looks fine
[17:31] <brunch875> I do, however want to have an IP interface over USB to the phone though
[17:32] <EriC^^> subho99: try sudo modprobe rtnet7601Uap
[17:32] <smeert> hey
[17:34] <subho99> Eric^^: Crashed again.
[17:34] <subho99> After 10 secs now, not immediately
[17:35] <EriC^^> subho99: without any modprobe command?
[17:35] <subho99> Eric^^: After I removed it from blacklist
[17:36] <EriC^^> subho99: oh
[17:36] <subho99> Eric^^: I inserted it, PC worked fine for 5-10 secs, then crashed
[17:36] <EriC^^> subho99: check /var/log/kern.log to see if it shows the crash
[17:36] <EriC^^> grep -i error /var/log/kern.log
[17:37] <subho99> Eric^^ http://termbin.com/pu0m
[17:40] <subho99> Eric^^: You know what, I don't think this is worth it.
[17:41] <subho99> Eric^^: Your help is greatly appreciated man, but I would rather but a new one
[17:42] <EriC^^> subho99: ok man
[17:42] <subho99> Eric^^: Thanks for trying constantly, but it's alright I am going to buy a new one
[17:42] <EriC^^> subho99: you're welcome
[17:42] <ubuu> #ubuntu.fr
[17:42] <subho99> Maybe the costliest one or perhaps the most popular one
[17:42] <nicomach1s> ubuu: you want #ubuntu-fr
[17:44] <subho99> Thanks once again. Gotta go.
[17:44] <EriC^^> subho99: np, this might be helpful check it out when you have time https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode#Purchasing_a_WiFi_adapte
[17:44] <EriC^^> typo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode#Purchasing_a_WiFi_adapter
[17:45] <ubuu> #ubuntu-fr
[17:45] <bingbong> Hi. I can set my mouse options with xset. I put the command in .xinitrc, so it *should* be executed on x start, but it is not.
[17:45] <bingbong> Where else can I put this command?
[17:46] <EriC^^> bingbong: in the startup apps
[17:46] <subho99> Eric^^: Yeah, NDISWrapper, can it help?
[17:46] <bingbong> EriC^^, using i3wm, there are not startup apps
[17:46] <EriC^^> subho99: i've no idea, maybe
[17:46] <EriC^^> never used that before
[17:47] <subho99> Eric^^: It's for using Windows drivers on Linux I think
[17:47] <EriC^^> bingbong: create a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart
[17:47] <EriC^^> subho99: yeah, i know, it's so rarely used, i think it's oldschool or something
[17:48] <subho99> I do have working WIndows drivers, gonna check it out later.
[17:48] <EriC^^> yeah it might be worth a shot
[17:48] <subho99> Hey, you know why my system's crashing?
[17:48] <bingbong> EriC^^, which part of my system makes use of the .desktop file? the xserver?
[17:49] <bingbong> so echo "xset mouse 3 0" >> ~/.config/autostart/.desktop ?
[17:49] <EaglesAreComing> do you know a dark theme for ubuntu that has black as main background color? thanks in advance
[17:49] <EriC^^> bingbong: no i'll give you a sample one hold on
[17:49] <subho99> Cause sometimes, I keep my Adapter plugged in when running Windows, I would hate for it to crash Ubuntu when I restart
[17:49] <EriC^^> subho99: i've no idea :/
[17:50] <EriC^^> bingbong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23629916/
[17:50] <subho99> Eric^^: I would like to remove all the drivers of it, so that it won't detect and Ubuntu won't crash
[17:50] <EriC^^> bingbong: put whatever command you want to run next to Exec=
[17:50] <EriC^^> subho99: go to the github dir and try sudo make uninstall
[17:51] <genii> wonderworld: You can save this shell script to something like getasc.sh, make it executable. Then use it like: getasc.sh A to find the ASCII value of A (65 in this case). http://paste.ubuntu.com/23629912/
[17:51] <subho99> Okay Eric^^, nothing else right?
[17:51] <EriC^^> subho99: yeah that should do it
[17:52] <subho99> Trying it out
[17:52] <EriC^^> subho99: try modinfo mt7601Uap it should say it's gone if it removed it
[17:53] <subho99> Okay, successfully removed
[17:53] <subho99> Not crashed yet, Thanks once again
[17:54] <EriC^^> cool, no problem
[17:54] <subho99> Gotta go. Almost midnight
[17:55] <Guest10179> guys, how can I edit my "open with" menu, it has a lot of duplicate entries
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest10179  is this useful https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257883
[17:59] <EriC^^> bingbong: save the file as ~/.config/autostart/something.desktop
[18:00] <Guest10179> MonkeyDust,  i think it might be, gonna try it
[18:02] <wonderworld> genii: tnx
[18:02] <Guest10179> also, even after I uninstalled playonlinux (yesterday, so ubuntu should have had enough time to reload that information) playonlinux still apears on the unity search(though of course it desn't launch anything)
[18:03] <Guest10179> I used locate .desktop | grep playonlinux but nothing appeared, so i don't know why playonlinux is still listed
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> Guest10179  simply type    locate playonlinux
[18:05] <Guest10179> it just shows cfg files that are located inside the virtual drives
[18:05] <Guest10179> a couple of svgs, one txt, and the rest are .cfg and .log
[18:05] <Guest10179> oh an a couple of pngs
[18:06] <nicomach1s> Guest10179: how did you uninstall playonlinux?
[18:07] <Guest10179> sudo apt remove playonlinux
[18:07] <nicomach1s> try sudo apt purge --remove playonlinux
[18:07] <mikeymop> i didn't think purge worked with apt
[18:07] <nicomach1s> it does
[18:07] <mikeymop> nice
[18:07] <Guest10179> playonlinux is not installed, nothing to uninstall
[18:08] <prasket> yes it does
[18:08] <mikeymop> ls ~/.playonlinux?
[18:08] <EaglesAreComing> do you know a dark theme for ubuntu that has black as main background color? thanks in advance
[18:08] <mikeymop> s/ls/ls -a
[18:08] <mikeymop> arc has arc darker, thats the popular one
[18:08] <Guest10179> yeah, im using arc as well
[18:08] <nicomach1s> EaglesAreComing: I like the Paper-GTK theme. It's not black, but it's dark.
[18:08] <bingbong> EriC^^, what part of my system executes this config?
[18:09] <bingbong> EriC^^, is it from the xserver?
[18:09] <bingbong> Because I'm not running gnome
[18:09] <EaglesAreComing> mikeymop, i need black, not dark colors
[18:09] <Guest10179> says it doesn't exist
[18:09] <nicomach1s> EaglesAreComing: you can always manually modify the colors.
[18:09] <mikeymop> EaglesAreComing: then mod the css of a theme for #000 instead of w/e color they used
[18:09] <nicomach1s> it's not easy, but it can be done.
[18:09] <Guest10179> yeah, i checked manually and it has a mayus
[18:10] <Guest10179> hmmm
[18:10] <i_and_i> not so free .. cannot enter python channel .. cannot send to python-unregistered redirect channel
[18:11] <EaglesAreComing> nicomach1s, mikeymop, im afraid ill ruin the theme - there are many colors to change
[18:11] <mikeymop> i_and_i: join again and nickserv identify again
[18:11] <mikeymop> then join a third time
[18:11] <nicomach1s> !register | i_and_i
[18:11] <mikeymop> it happens to me
[18:11] <i_and_i> mikey it's because i'm unregistered
[18:11] <nicomach1s> EaglesAreComing: copy it first, play around, try it out, and if all else fails go back to the original.
[18:11] <i_and_i> ty tho
[18:11] <mikeymop> EaglesAreComing: you can always redownload it, or check gnome-look.org for something that fits the bill
[18:12] <mikeymop> EaglesAreComing: nicomach1s ""
[18:12] <Guest10179> using only lay i found a bunch of wine.desktop files on POL's folder
[18:12] <Guest10179> might this be the thing causing some of the duplicates?
[18:12] <nicomach1s> EaglesAreComing: here's paper: http://i.imgur.com/39OIjXE.jpg
[18:12] <mikeymop> idk your issue Guest10179, but those .desktop files are launcher shortcuts
[18:12] <nicomach1s> colors can be modified pretty easily.
[18:13] <Guest10179> i know, but the open with entries have to stored somewhere
[18:13] <mikeymop> wow rtv looks siiiiick
[18:13] <mikeymop> Guest10179: less *.desktop
[18:13] <Guest10179> and i still don't know why unity is still showing playonlinux....
[18:13] <mikeymop> you'll see where they point, they're just xml
[18:13] <mikeymop> Guest10179: did you restart unity
[18:14] <Guest10179> I rebooted
[18:14] <Guest10179> less is only showing an isaac .desktop i made long ago
[18:19] <EaglesAreComing> nicomach1s, i get 'E: Unable to locate package paper-gtk-theme'
[18:20] <EaglesAreComing> i use ppas
[18:20] <MWM> kdeinit5 keep "unexpectedly closing" WHen I have the terminal open I can restart it with "plasmashell &" but its starting to happen more often
[18:20] <MWM> whats my troubleshooting procedure for this?
[18:21] <MWM> Id give the exact error, but I didnt get a chance to write it down the last time
[18:21] <nicomach1s> EaglesAreComing: it may be a PPA
[18:22] <nicomach1s> EaglesAreComing: did you add the PPA?
[18:22] <nicomach1s> and then apt update?
[18:23] <mikeymop> woudln't the desktop files be created by a wine user
[18:23] <mikeymop> and not his user
[18:23] <EaglesAreComing> yes, i have icon and cursor themes, but not gtk theme
[18:23] <mikeymop> so he'd need to sudo rm them
[18:23] <mikeymop> oh theme issue no .desktops
[18:25] <MWM> "We are sorry, kdeinit5 closed unexpectedly. You cannot report this error, because kdeinit5 does not provide a bug reporting address"
[18:25] <MWM> got it this time :)
[18:25] <SonikkuAmerica> mikeymop: If it's ~/.wine/, it's owned by the user whose ~ it's in
[18:26] <Guest10179> i wish unity dash showed more information about the launchers
[18:26] <Guest10179> liek the file's ubication and command
[18:26] <nicomach1s> EaglesAreComing: no need for icon and cursor, but ok.
[18:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest10179: Right click on the application.
[18:29] <mikeymop> Dagmar, you here?
[18:30] <mikeymop> Khaystus?
[18:30] <mikeymop> damn
[18:30] <Guest10179> SonikkuAmerica,  it displays nothing
[18:30] <SonikkuAmerica> mikeymop: did you see what I said?
[18:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest10179:
[18:30] <SonikkuAmerica> that's odd
[18:31] <Guest10179> no image avilable, 0 reviews, launch
[18:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest10179: Which app is it?
[18:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest10179: If it's an app in the repos, we can do !info on it here
[18:34] <Guest10179> the problem is that it still shows up on the launcher after being uninstalled
[18:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest10179: Oh! Log out and back in again, and you should be all set.
[18:35] <Guest10179> still appearing after reboot
[18:35] <schrader_> hello
[18:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest10179: It still appears after a reboot of the machine?
[18:35] <Guest10179> yes}
[18:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest10179: Did you install it from the official repos, or from a PPA?
[18:35] <Guest10179> officil
[18:36] <Guest10179> actually, I don't remember, let me check
[18:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest10179: OK. But what app (program) is it?
[18:36] <Guest10179> playonlinux
[18:37] <Guest10179> i think i downloaded it from their website
[18:39] <MWM> Im think the erro is tied to my boot drive being full.  Although I dont think the drive should be full?
[18:41] <MWM> The bulk of storage seems to be taken up by my multimedia directory, but all the media is stored on another disk and mounted to a director in ~/
[18:41] <MWM> *directory
[18:46] <MWM> so the question is: if I have 1TB mounted to my multimedia directory on ~/ then why is my disk full?  I should still have plenty of space left on my OS drive because everything is on the other drive right?
[18:47] <wonderworld> MWM: sudo su; apt-get install ncdu; ncdu -x /;
[18:47] <wonderworld> this will show you where your space has been consumed
[18:47] <EaglesAreComing> do you know a lightweight browser who can apply a dark theme to all web pages (with or without an extension)?
[18:48] <tgm4883> we're telling people to sudo su now?
[18:48] <wonderworld> not we.
[18:48] <EaglesAreComing> i do 'sudo gksudo' though
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> MWM  what's the outcome of lsblk -f && df -h    ... use a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:49] <wonderworld> MWM: sorry misread your question. if it's your boot partition do ncdu -x /boot
[18:49] <OerHeks> EaglesAreComing, browsers do not apply themes to webpages, just the border and items on the browser.
[18:49] <CoderEurope> How do I look at error reports from aport online, after they're reported ?
[18:50] <EaglesAreComing> OerHeks, im not a native english speaker
[18:50] <wonderworld> MWM: /boot slowly fills up with old kernels
[18:50] <tgm4883> CoderEurope: I don't believe you can
[18:50] <MWM> thanks guys.... need a minute to run the commands
[18:50] <EaglesAreComing> OerHeks, do you know what i want?
[18:51] <MWM> cant past though because I cant paste pack and forth with NoMachine
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> MWM  select it, then copy/paste in the pastebin
[18:51] <OerHeks> EaglesAreComing, you asked for 'browser who can apply a dark theme to all web pages'
[18:52] <pseudonymous> Hey - does anyone know which will be the last Unity 7 LTS release and is there any sense of how Unity 8 wants to deal with its legacy ? I'm asking because I've grown to like later releases of Unity and I'm sort of afraid of a new Gnome 2 => Gnome 3 transition
[18:52] <EaglesAreComing> OerHeks, is there a lightweight alternative to chrome+chrome extension darkreader?
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> pseudonymous: Have you been able to play around with Unity 8 yet?
[18:53] <KayliLynn> Hi
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> pseudonymous: There's a preview in 16.10
[18:54] <MWM> gotta restart. sorry for making everyone wait.  wonderworld: I cant install ncdu because the disk is 100% full
[18:54] <OerHeks> EaglesAreComing, chrome is pretty lightweight, about that darkreader i don't know
[18:55] <ira_> try Vivaldi
[18:55] <pseudonymous> SonikkuAmerica: I tried booting it but no. Saw a few videos online, however.  It's just, I've just started out with Ubuntu again but there's a fear of committing to this, working out its kinks if I'm going to have the rug pulled out from under me in a year or so
[18:55] <EaglesAreComing> ira_, only vivaldi can have the web pages dark themed?
[18:55] <dnssoul> can anyone help me install ubuntu 16.04.01 with grub2 successful.  please use google translate from french to english.  international #ubuntu does not assist in this.  boot-repair ppa doesn't work.
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> pseudonymous: Well, ask yourself, do you need Unity?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> dnssoul  this is "international #ubuntu"
[18:57] <EaglesAreComing> ira_, i mean from what you know
[18:58] <pseudonymous> SonikkuAmerica: kinda...? I'm not a fan of Gnome 3, but maybe it can be made to work. KDE is OK but also not great.
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> pseudonymous: We also offer pre-built images with XFCE and LXDE, and there are other desktops you can install as well, whether through the official repos or through PPAs (although see !ppa for a cautionary  note)
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> pseudonymous: And MATE, too. I forgot MATE.
[18:59] <EaglesAreComing> budgie became official ubuntu flavor
[18:59] <MWM> now Im down to putty because kdeinit5 crashed again.  What am I looking for in lsblk -f && df -h ?
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> EaglesAreComing: ??
[19:00] <EaglesAreComing> 'ubuntu budgie'
[19:00] <MWM> boot drive is @ "100%" usage
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> MWM  ok, ls -l /boot, what does it show
[19:01] <EriC^^> dnssoul: voir #ubuntu-discuss
[19:01] <SonikkuAmerica> EaglesAreComing: It's not official as of yet though.
[19:01] <EaglesAreComing> SonikkuAmerica, i read about it on their website, in the news
[19:01] <prasket> Hello, I am having issues with my wifi dropping. Semi new to Linux, new to hardware troubleshooting for sure. Where should I start digging in? I am running Ubuntu 16.10 and just got updates. Wifi will just keep dropping connection and re-connecting or act like its connected when its not
[19:01] <SonikkuAmerica> EaglesAreComing: "17.04 will be our first official release under the new name."
[19:02] <EaglesAreComing> SonikkuAmerica, oh, ok
[19:02] <EaglesAreComing> 'budgie' drew my attention :)
[19:02] <Richard_Cavell> SonikkuAmerica: What exactly are you saying?  Is "ubuntu" going to change its name?
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> EaglesAreComing: Until then, see their avenues of support for that remix please.
[19:03] <CoderEurope> tgm4883:  I was looking at this, but don't know the Web-address that Leo is showing ? https://youtu.be/oGsA55RvqLI?t=37m12s
[19:03] <Guest10179> prasket,  there's a system log that should tell you about everything that happens
[19:03] <Guest10179> including your wifi
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Richard_Cavell: What? Where did I say that?
[19:03] <MWM> MonkeyDust:  whole lot of *-generic dating back a few months and a .elf  and a couple of .bin
[19:03] <Guest10179> just search for system log on unitydash
[19:03] <Richard_Cavell> SonikkuAmerica: Okay, my mistake
[19:04] <EaglesAreComing> Richard_Cavell, it will be a new flavor
[19:04] <prasket> Guest10179, just the /var/log/syslog right?
[19:04] <Richard_Cavell> EaglesAreComing: Okay.  I used to use Ubuntu in the Jaunty 9.04 days, when there were two flavours: 32 bit and 64 bit
[19:04] <EaglesAreComing> 64 bit for life
[19:05] <akik> CoderEurope: https://errors.ubuntu.com/ ?
[19:05] <MWM> budgie is getting officially adopted?  cool! :)
[19:05] <EaglesAreComing> its all over the news :)
[19:05] <wonderworld> MWM: how many partitions do you have?
[19:05] <CoderEurope> akiik, yes that works - great -oh
[19:05] <akik> CoderEurope: it's in the address bar in the video :)
[19:06] <pseudonymous> But isn't budgie just yet-another-desktop-environment with not too much support behind it ? Ikey discontinued Solus OS once, what happens to SolusOS (and by extension) Budgie should he decide so again ?
[19:06] <sruli> would anyone know when ubuntu will be updating NetworkManager to v 1.4+ ?
[19:06] <amiller_> Apport is telling me that there was an internal error with gnome-software, and that it's not reportable because I have obsolete package versions installed. Does that make any sense?
[19:06] <MWM> 4 on the OS disk.  3 other disks with 2/3 partitions currently mounted to various locations
[19:07] <EaglesAreComing> pseudonymous, laws of evolution
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> sruli  if you know the exact package name, you can try launchpad
[19:07] <wonderworld> MWM: check with "df -h" which partitions are out of space
[19:07] <MWM> I set up the OS and then partitioned the storage drives.  Set 1TB + partitions to mount automatically (with /etc/fstab) to ~/Videos and ~/Music
[19:08] <pseudonymous> I don't know, maybe I'm just tired of all this crap. My first install was Red Hat Linux 7.2 and it seems like things haven't ever stopped being in flux.. I just wish things were a bit more stable in Linux-land...
[19:09] <sruli> MonkeyDust: its available in launchpad, been using it for a while very stable, and much better than v 1.2.2 just wondering when ubuntu will start using 1.4+ it has much more functionally
[19:09] <EaglesAreComing> pseudonymous, i think there are people who switch between distros because boredom
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> pseudonymous  what are you struggling with?
[19:12] <pseudonymous> MonkeyDust: I started by asking what the plans for Unity 8 wrt. Unity 7 was because I quite like what it finally matured into and I'm getting a distinctively Linux'ish feel of "98% done, let's scrap this thing and start over" is in the air.  (in other words: I'm afraid of committing to the unity 7 desktop and ubuntu if Unity 8 will be a Gnome3-style release)
[19:12] <yocs0000> is there a way to open sketchup files on ubuntu?
[19:14] <akik> pseudonymous: i'm sure nothing bad will happen with unity 7
[19:14] <wonderworld> unity was the main reason for me to leave ubuntu after years
[19:14] <CoderEurope> try ubuntu Mate (?)
[19:14] <akik> pseudonymous: (i don't know anything about it, just guessing)
[19:15] <pseudonymous> wonderworld: I fully understand, I didn't like its introduction either. But it has matured into a nice (if opinionated) desktop. Kind of like how Gnome 3 is finally somewhat usable.
[19:15] <smeert> so how annoying is it to make a RAID after the install?
[19:15] <MWM> I dont know why but I cant stand Unity.  I think its the color scheme.  many other *buntu are plenty usable.  I assume Ubuntu/Unity are just fine also but I use other flavors
[19:15] <pseudonymous> It just seems as if every time things are about to come together, it *has* to be "innovated" on -_-
[19:15] <EaglesAreComing> pseudonymous, +1
[19:15] <wonderworld> pseudonymous: haven't had a look for a while. will try it out in a VM. (always interested in seeing whats new :)
[19:16] <CoderEurope> I think they'll stick with Unity 8 for 10 years or so ... :)
[19:16] <MWM> so if creating a partition on another drive and mounting it to ~/Videos will still fill up my OS drive... what *is* the proper way?
[19:16] <wonderworld> when it came it i disliked the radical remove of features i was used to with gnome2
[19:17] <wonderworld> came *out* even
[19:17] <akik> MWM: if you mount your partition into ~/Videos, then only that partition will be filled when writing to ~/Videos
[19:18] <tgm4883> pseudonymous: from a user perspective, unity 8 should be really similiar to unity 7. (when it's done anyway)
[19:18] <akik> MWM: use "du -sk /* | sort -n" to dig in where your disk is being eaten
[19:19] <MWM> akik: so if I mount a 1TB partition to ~/Videos then I have 1TB of space to use correct?  but my 120GB OS drive is full...
[19:19] <tgm4883> MWM: then either you haven't mounted it correctly, or you've got somewhere else eating up your storage
[19:19] <akik> MWM: then your 1TB partition is being written to when you write to ~/Videos. it doesn't magically become a part of your system drive
[19:19] <MWM> lsblk shows that the partition is mounts to ~/Videos (as it is supposed to be in the fstab)
[19:20] <tgm4883> MWM: do this, unmount your ~/Videos then do 'du / | sort -n -r | head'
[19:21] <Newbie1> Hi
[19:21] <MWM> akik:  I *want* the 1TB partition to be written to. that was the idea, but apparently I havenot implimented it correctly.
[19:21] <yocs0000> is there a way to open sketchup files on ubuntu?
[19:21] <karma> hello
[19:21] <MWM> I want a small OS drive (SSD) and storage on slower and larger drives
[19:21] <tgm4883> MWM: do this, unmount your ~/Videos then do 'du / | sort -n -r | head'
[19:24] <MWM> I unmounted the directory and confirmed that the 1TB partition was unmounted with lsblk
[19:24] <tgm4883> MWM: ok, and what about the rest of the command?
[19:24] <bekks> I'd use "mount" for confirmation instead.
[19:25] <MWM> du starts @ / and runs all the way to ~/Videos and every dubdirectory
[19:25] <MWM> * du / | sort -n -r | head I mean
[19:25] <wonderworld>  MWM: check which partition is actually full with "df -h"
[19:25] <tgm4883> MWM: can you pastebin the output of that command?
[19:25] <akik> if you use du -sk /* you'll see the sizes per directory
[19:26] <MWM> hmmm.... I dont think that anything was getting written to my 1TB partition
[19:26] <Cardoe> Hoping someone can help me unhose my machine. I used do-release-upgrade to go to yakkety on my laptop. It complained that there were differences in /etc/sysctl.conf and asked me the usual Y/N/D/Z question to resolve it. I hit D and it showed me the diff and then it said "command exited with result 2" and I hit enter and I got a message that "[screen is terminating]" so now I'm back at the prompt and unable to resume do-release-upgrade because
[19:26] <Cardoe>  dpkg is still running.
[19:26] <akik> MWM: ..you just unmounted it
[19:26] <MWM> after I unmounted the partition everything is still there
[19:27] <tgm4883> well there you go
[19:27] <MWM> the partition does *not* show as mounted with lsblk
[19:27] <tgm4883> why you keep using lsblk, IDK
[19:27] <MWM> but when i cd to ~/Videos all the directories still exist
[19:27] <akik> MWM: ah ok you have to remove the files from the mount point. they are eating space from your system drive
[19:27] <wonderworld> MWM: you didn't really mount your 1TB drive then.
[19:27] <akik> MWM: just be careful that the files are on your 1TB partition
[19:28] <tgm4883> Or you wrote a bunch of stuff there, then moutned your 1TB drive there then wrote more stuff there
[19:28] <MWM> so Ive botched the process here gents.  I wrote the mounting into /etc/fstab and lsblk shows that it is mounted .... can you give me a clue where I went wrong?
[19:29] <tgm4883> MWM: not without more information
[19:29] <tgm4883> MWM: for starters, have you removed the stuff in your ~/Videos directory now?
[19:29] <akik> MWM: the files that exist in ~/Videos before you mount the 1TB on top of it eat your system disk space
[19:29] <MWM> The goal was to have the OS on the SSD and storage on the spinners.  to reach this goal, I created a partition on the spinner and wrote the /etc/fstab to mount it to ~/Videos....
[19:29] <tgm4883> MWM: have you removed the stuff in your ~/Videos directory now?
[19:30] <MWM> akik:  it was a fresh install.  nothing was in ~/Videos beforehand
[19:30] <akik> 21:26 < MWM> after I unmounted the partition everything is still there
[19:30] <MWM> tgm4883: not yet.  I dont want to lose it if I dont have to
[19:31] <tgm4883> MWM: ok then do this. Move your ~/Videos directory to ~/Videos2. Then create a new empty ~/Videos and mount your drive there
[19:31] <tgm4883> MWM: then look inside your ~/Videos directory and see if there is stuff in there
[19:32] <wonderworld> MWM: try to free up some space with "apt-get clean" and see if you can install ncdu afterwards. that will simplify debugguing. it will show you the used space on your drives in a visual and interactive way.
[19:32] <tgm4883> wonderworld: there's no reason for that. We know where all of his usage is
[19:33] <MWM> moved the directory to Videos2 and created a new Videos directory (~/Videos) and it is empty
[19:34] <dnssoul>     /join #debian
[19:34] <wonderworld> tgm4883: do we?
[19:34] <akik> MWM: you just created an empty directory ~/Videos. now mount the 1TB partition in it
[19:35] <MWM> checking on getting ndcu to install
[19:36] <tgm4883> MWM: did you mount the 1TB partition to your ~/Videos ?
[19:36] <MWM> I got ndcu for now.  I am not sure what options to mount with so I was looking it up
[19:36] <tgm4883> wonderworld: well being that he said everything was in ~/Videos while it was unmounted... yes?
[19:37] <MWM> -o rw? maybe?
[19:37] <tgm4883> MWM: I thought you had it in fstab?
[19:37] <MWM> I do have it in fstab... but that only loads on reboot right?
[19:37] <wonderworld> MWM: it's ncdu not ndcu
[19:37] <tgm4883> MWM: do 'sudo mount -a'
[19:37] <MWM> or mount -a?
[19:38] <MWM> It was a type "ncdu" is installed
[19:38] <wonderworld> ok. do "ncdu -x /"
[19:39] <wonderworld> verify if the space has really been taken bei your videos mountpoint
[19:39] <tgm4883> wonderworld: if we aren't going to trust users then you should at least use a tool that lets you verify...
[19:39] <wonderworld> if so mount your 1TB disk to a temp mountpoint and move the videos to the disk
[19:40] <wonderworld> after that lets check your fstab together to fix it
[19:40] <MWM> ncdu -x shows ~/Videos to have 0.0 B
[19:41] <wonderworld> ok. now check where all the space has been eaten up
[19:41] <wonderworld> you can navigate it with the cursor keys and enter
[19:42] <sebhoss> does anyone know if https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-aurora is still alive?
[19:42] <elichai2> hey
[19:42] <elichai2> I want to install KDE Plasma 5.8 on my ubuntu
[19:42] <MWM> I would apprecitate the help with fstab but unless you can think of a way to copy/past from putty its gonna be tough
[19:43] <elichai2> I tried installing via kubuntu-backport ppa but it installed KDE 5.2.X
[19:43] <tgm4883> MWM: 'cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999'
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> elichai2  i guess you need a ppa, and that's not supported here
[19:43] <OerHeks> elichai2, you might want to reask in #kubuntu
[19:43] <tgm4883> MWM: that will put your fstab in a pastebin for us to see
[19:43] <elichai2> MonkeyDust, what's the latest KDE version supported by Ubuntu?
[19:43] <elichai2> ok, i'll go into Kubuntu
[19:44] <akik> MWM: when you select text in putty, it'll go direct into the clipboard
[19:44] <MWM> I can navigate to subfolders from "ncdu -x" but there isnt anything in them
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> sebhoss  looks fairly new (2016), so i guess it's still alive
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> elichai2  not sure i don't like/use kde
[19:45] <elichai2> MonkeyDust, I just want some change from Unity
[19:45] <MWM> akik: sweet! :)
[19:45] <elichai2> Got tired of it. and the search/launchpad on Unity is slow
[19:45] <elichai2> and laggy
[19:45] <sebhoss> MonkeyDust: it did not get any new builds recently, e.g. like firefox 52 which is already up at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/
[19:46] <wonderworld> MWM: you see the used space for every directory at the beginning of the line
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> elichai2  http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[19:46] <MWM> From a security standpoint should I redact my username from the pastes?
[19:46] <elichai2> MonkeyDust, ?
[19:46] <tgm4883> MWM: that's up to you
[19:46] <MWM> come to think of it a custom user just for this sort of thing might be a good idea
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> elichai2  unity is only default, you can choose several other DE's
[19:47] <akik> MWM: if you moved the directory ~/Videos into ~/Videos2 you should find the files there
[19:48] <elichai2> MonkeyDust, that's why I want to try KDE(Plasma) but it's only a very old version
[19:48] <MWM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23630312/
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> elichai2  like suggested earlier, try #kubuntu
[19:50] <akik> elichai2: there's a distribution called kde neon which might have a newer version
[19:50] <tgm4883> MWM: what's the output of  'df -h
[19:50] <tgm4883> MWM: the fstab looks ok to me
[19:51] <elichai2> on other note. good guide to upgrading xenial to Yakkety? (saving ppa's and checking departacted packages)
[19:51] <nicomach1s> !upgrade | elichai2
[19:52] <MWM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23630320/
[19:52] <elichai2> +1
[19:52] <MWM> tgm4883: yeah ive flubbed an fstab or two so I tried to get it right.  I thought I had it but Im getting this issue...
[19:52] <akik> MWM: you have 56 gigs in /home
[19:53] <tgm4883> MWM: OK, so you've got stuff in your videos folder, but you've got 2 full partitions. So lets work on those
[19:53] <tgm4883> MWM: you said you see stuff in ~/Videos2 ?
[19:54] <squinty> elichai2, might also want to take a look at http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/10/upgrade-ubuntu-16-10-from-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:55] <MWM> yep ~/Videos2 has a bunch of stuff that should be in the subdirectories
[19:55] <tgm4883> MWM: ok, can you move those to the right directories under ~/Videos then?
[19:56] <MWM> akik: yeah but all 56Gb shouldnt be full with the way I have the fstab set up.... is what I think.  Obviously not right
[19:56] <MWM> yeah I will get them moved.
[19:56] <tgm4883> MWM: the stuff in ~/Videos2 is in ~/Videos2/Source and ~/Videos2/Processed right?
[19:57] <MWM> incorrect.  the stuff in ~/Videos2 is in the root of the directory
[19:57] <tgm4883> MWM: ok, is it supposed to be under one of those directories though?
[19:58] <MWM> yes it is supposed to be under one of those directories.  I think I feel a facepalm coming on......
[19:58] <tgm4883> MWM: the way you have the parition mounted is that ~/Videos is on your /home partition, but ~/Videos/Source and ~/Videos/Processed are on other partitions
[19:58] <MWM> currently moving from ~/Videos2 to ~/Videos/Source
[19:59] <tgm4883> ok
[19:59] <MWM> and there is the facepalm!
[19:59] <tgm4883> MWM: once that is done your home directory should have some free space, however your root partition is still full
[19:59] <tgm4883> so we'll work on that next
[20:00] <akik> looks like MWM's / and /home are the same partition /dev/sda
[20:00] <akik> looks like MWM's / and /home are the same partition /dev/sda6
[20:00] <Epx998> Is there a doc that lists the ubuntu 'service status' exit codes?
[20:01] <Gegsite> hmm my webbrowser is dieing
[20:01]  * Gegsite means webbrowser-app 
[20:01] <MWM> tgm4883 and akik:  now Im lost.  I was stretching my skill to get the fstab correct
[20:01] <tgm4883> akik: that's true, and wonky
[20:02] <MWM> why wouldnt / and /home be on the same device?
[20:02] <sruli> Epx998: each service/application has different exit codes, useully found in man page
[20:02] <akik> oh they're btrfs subvolumes
[20:02] <Epx998> hmm
[20:02] <akik> that's normal
[20:02] <Gegsite> http://pastebin.com/Mr0BkiX2
[20:02] <tgm4883> akik: ah
[20:04] <sruli> how can i apt-get update excluding a specidic ppa?
[20:05] <sruli> \\specific
[20:05] <MWM> still moving.  wish there was a progress bar or something
[20:05] <Gegsite> also tried as root, no terminal errors, only ForceClose
[20:05] <squinty> sruli,  untoggle it in Software and Updates
[20:06] <tgm4883> sruli: I'm not aware of a way to do it just in apt, but it sounds like you might want to use pinning/priorities
[20:06] <m[at]> ur
[20:06] <sruli> squinty: remove the ppa before update, sounds like a workaround, thanks
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> MWM  moving directories? with rsync you can use the flag --progress
[20:06] <tgm4883> sruli: what are you trying to exclude
[20:07] <MWM> thanks MonkeyDust.  Ive read about rsync but have always just stuck with mv because it is comfortable
[20:07] <sruli> tgm4883: a certain ppa i added, has non important updates want to skip it for now
[20:07] <MWM> Ill give it a read through though
[20:08] <sruli> problem is if i remove the ppa, ubuntu will revert to original package, thts not good
[20:08] <sruli> tgm4883: ^
[20:08] <tgm4883> sruli: no it wont
[20:08] <sruli> tgm4883: i'll give it a try
[20:08] <tgm4883> well, if you use ppa-purge it will, but that's not what you should do
[20:09] <tgm4883> sruli: just disable it, or copy the packages you want to your own PPA as god intended and don't worry about it ;P
[20:10] <nedbat> i have a command (ansible-playbook) that formats its output differently depending on whether stdout is a terminal or not. I want to pipe its output, but have it think stdout is a terminal. My googling isn't finding anything, but I think there's a way to do this. Am I wrong?
[20:10] <MWM> can you just comment it out in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:10] <sruli> commented it, trying update now
[20:10] <tgm4883> MWM: yea you can
[20:11] <sruli> that works fine
[20:11] <MWM> smart guy hat for me then :) although I had to double check the path with google
[20:11] <tgm4883> MWM: although practically nobody does this, I feel like the proper way to use PPA's is to only add your own PPA to your system and if you find packages you want to use on someone elses PPA you just copy the packages to yours
[20:13] <MWM> that sounds very efficient. I hate adding PPAs. seems like my OS is getting dirty or something
[20:14] <MWM> rsync copies? or does it move?  seems like it copies
[20:15] <tgm4883> MWM: it copies
[20:15] <akik> it can be made to do either
[20:15] <tgm4883> akik: rsync can delete the original copy? Nice
[20:16] <akik> hmm sorry i might be wrong
[20:16] <akik> have to check
[20:17] <MWM> so my files are moved and safe in ~/Videos and ~/Videos2 is empty
[20:17] <akik> tgm4883: --remove-source-files   sender removes synchronized files (non-dirs)
[20:17] <tgm4883> MWM: ok, can you pastebin 'df -h' again?
[20:18] <tgm4883> akik: nice, I didn't realize it could do that
[20:19] <MWM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23630423/
[20:19] <MWM> none of that info is in the man pages for rsync ?
[20:19] <tgm4883> MWM: nice, looks much better
[20:19] <akik> MWM: it's in the man page too
[20:19] <MWM> ignore that.... the man pages scroll very far
[20:22] <MWM> Is there a cleaner way to organize that?  ~/Videos is still on the system disc while ~/Videos/Processed and ~/Videos/Source are the mountpoints
[20:23] <MWM> please disregard that.  Linux makes my brain mush
[20:23] <MWM> no way to mount 2 partitions to 1 directory
[20:24] <tgm4883> MWM: well you could mount one at ~/Videos and the other at ~/Videos/Processed
[20:24] <MWM> I would have to merge the partitions and then create Source and Processed on that partition...
[20:24] <tgm4883> MWM: nope
[20:25] <MWM> Could this be causeing kdeinit5 to crash (the disk being full?)
[20:25] <tgm4883> MWM: you would mount 1 partition at ~/Videos  inside of that parittion you would still have Source and Processed folders. Then you just mount your other partition at ~/Videos/Processed
[20:26] <tgm4883> MWM: with that, you would still have your separate folders for Source and Processed residing on separate partitions, but your ~/Videos directory would also be included on one of those partitions (in the pesky event that you forget to put the files in the right location again, it won't fill up your home/root partition)
[20:26] <MWM> so in your example ~/Videos/Processed would be mounted on the partition that is mounted on ~/Videos ? if that is correct that is a whole new world uf mount options for me
[20:27] <tgm4883> MWM: yep
[20:27] <tgm4883> MWM: no new mount options needed, just change the locations they are mounted at
[20:28] <MWM> TIL is an understatment :) Thanks for the help. and now I have to go read about settign up my own PPA and cleaning up my sources.list
[20:28] <tgm4883> MWM: you'd also want to verify that the parent partition gets mounted before your other partition
[20:31] <MWM> Well then I have an fstab to correct and some other stuff to learn.  Thanks to all who helped.  if anyone sees wonderworld please thank him for bringing ncdu up.  I had been trying to remeber that one for a while
[20:31] <est31> hello folks
[20:31] <est31> I've got a small question
[20:31] <est31> apparently there is a conflict on my machine
[20:32] <est31> apt-utils needs apt (= 1.3.1)
[20:32] <est31> but I have 1.3.2ubuntu0.1 installed
[20:33] <est31> what did you mess up?
[20:33] <nicomach1s> what did who mess up?
[20:34] <est31> as I said, there is a package conflict for me
[20:34] <est31> and I take care to never install any ppa
[20:35] <est31> so if I got it, i got it from the official packages
[20:35] <genii> est31: Did you do sudo apt update ..before trying to install it, so that the list of packages and their versions are current?
[20:35] <est31> genii: obviously
[20:37] <nicomach1s> est31: 1. we do not maintain the repos. don't get pissy at us. 2. there's no need for sarcastic responses to basic troubleshooting. everyone here is volunteering to help, and we ALWAYS start with basic stuff because we have to verify that it was done.
[20:37] <seth> hello
[20:37] <seth> currently running ubuntu12.04 with classic gnome panel
[20:37] <est31> nicomach1s: I just use ubuntu instead of arch because I want to avoid these issues
[20:37] <seth> i set the 'place new windows' to centered but still not working
[20:38] <nicomach1s> est31: can you please paste the full output to a pastebin and link here?
[20:38] <est31> and not using debian testing or stuff
[20:38] <est31> nicomach1s: yes, one moment
[20:38] <CoderEurope> How Do I Do an Full Error Log of the system ?
[20:38] <est31> nicomach1s: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23630505/
[20:39] <CoderEurope> when I fire up ubuntu ?
[20:39] <ppf> CoderEurope: check out /var/logs
[20:39] <ppf> anything specific you're looking for?
[20:39] <est31> nicomach1s: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23630508/
[20:39] <CoderEurope> How do I open /var/logs ?
[20:39] <genii> est31: Did you manually edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file? If no PPAs are installed and otherwise stock repositories, then the only way a stray dependency could be introduced is if there are entries within that file from different places or for different Ubuntu versions mixed together
[20:39] <ppf> it's a folder
[20:39] <bekks> cd /var/log
[20:39] <est31> genii: let me check
[20:40] <nicomach1s> est31: probably best to just pastebin that as well and get a couple pairs of eyes on it
[20:40] <CoderEurope> So when I am in that folder how do I see/open the error log / what command ?
[20:40] <CoderEurope> can you give me an example ?
[20:40] <ppf> CoderEurope:  what are you looking for
[20:40] <nicomach1s> CoderEurope: nano /var/log
[20:40] <CoderEurope> Ahh ok thanks.
[20:41] <CoderEurope> How do I post the error log to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[20:41] <nicomach1s> or gedit /var/log or vim /var/log or ed /var/log or........
[20:41] <nicomach1s> CoderEurope: cat /var/log | nc termbin 9999
[20:41] <est31> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23630518/
[20:42] <bekks> nicomach1s: cat? Not ls?
[20:42] <ppf> neither, probably?
[20:42] <nicomach1s> bekks: whoops
[20:42] <nicomach1s> idk
[20:42] <ppf> CoderEurope: tell us what you want to do
[20:42] <nicomach1s> I don't generally look in /var/log
[20:43] <nicomach1s> est31: looks fine to me.
[20:43] <CoderEurope> ppf, I just want to report to paste.ubuntu.com the reason why cheese is using 99% of my CPU when I record my daily vlog.
[20:43] <nicomach1s> did you try apt -f install?
[20:43] <CoderEurope> So I can report it on gnome website :)
[20:44] <ppf> so what is the reason
[20:44] <CoderEurope> bugs
[20:44] <ppf> that's .. specific
[20:44] <CoderEurope> I am using 16.04 ubuntu & an i7 CPU on lenovo laptop.
[20:45] <est31> nicomach1s: thanks for the help
[20:45] <genii> est31: I believe what has happened is: Your version of apt installed on Xenial was later in version than the most recent one which is available for Yakkety, because often things are backported to LTS but not to interim releases
[20:45] <est31> just doing apt -f dist-upgrade is nothing I like doing
[20:45] <CoderEurope> I just want the steps to get an error report (online) so I can report it on bugs.gnome.org
[20:45] <genii> !info apt-utils xenial
[20:45] <est31> genii: I upgraded to yakkety almost immediately after it was released
[20:45] <genii> !info apt-utils yakkety
[20:46] <est31> maybe 2 weeks
[20:46] <genii> Hm.
[20:46] <ppf> cheese is a video recording application, right? it's probably supposed to use a lot of compute
[20:46] <CoderEurope> yeah, not 100% of the CPU - its buggy .
[20:46] <akik> est31: the command would be "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:46] <ppf> nevertheless, if you bombard maintainers with random error logs, that's a pretty good way to get ignored
[20:46] <ppf> you're kidding, right
[20:46] <sruli> how can i replace with sed only if the start of line matches? i.e line one "123" line 2 "0123" i need to replace only the line that starts with "123"
[20:47] <nicomach1s> CoderEurope: completely depends on the CPU. Video capture and then transcoding can take a lot of processing power.
[20:47] <CoderEurope> ppf, How else do I contribute -otherthan reporting error logs ?
[20:48] <nicomach1s> CoderEurope: provide a fix.
[20:48] <CoderEurope> I am not *that* good a coder.
[20:48] <CoderEurope> #UbuntuProblems
[20:49] <ppf> provide the _right_ error logs
[20:49] <est31> thanks and bye
[20:49] <CoderEurope> ppf, where do ~I get them ?
[20:50] <hits1911> valgrind reports reachable leak even in "int main() {}". OS is Ubuntu 16. How can I solve this issue?
[20:51] <ppf> you figure out what the issue is
[20:51] <ppf> or you ask people
[20:51] <ppf> about the concrete issue
[20:51] <genii> nicomach1s: Ah, he left. I wanted to find out where the stray later version of his apt originated from, but I guess it doesn't matter now.
[20:51] <CoderEurope> ppf, So you're basically saying - using mailing lists ?
[20:52] <ppf> no, irc is fine
[20:52] <CoderEurope> for cheese ? where ? which channel ?
[20:52] <ppf> or .. google, occasionally
[20:53] <hits1911> problem is exclusive to ubuntu 16. I tried in ubuntu 14 with the exact save version of valgrind and it worked fine. I though may be it is related to ubuntu 16.
[20:53] <hits1911> same*
[20:53] <bekks> hits1911: exclusive to which ubuntu 16, there is 16.04 and 16.10?
[20:54] <nicomach1s> genii: he seemed pretty intent on blaming "you all", so I wasn't overly-eager to help him out tbh
[20:54] <hits1911> ubuntu 16.04.1
[20:54] <genii> nicomach1s: Yes, understandable :)
[20:54] <taora> hello everyone, I am constantly getting problems with network manager. after waking up from sleep (lifting up the display) it doesnt show available networks. same happens when I, say, switch off and on the wifi lock.
[20:56] <ppf> CoderEurope: if you got a real problem then you can ask specific question, for instance here
[20:56] <ppf> people will tell you if you're in the wrong place
[20:56] <ppf> fwiw, "only 99% cpu" is _not_ a real problem ..
[20:57] <CoderEurope> ppf: Why is cheese using 100%@ of my CPU is the basic question.
[20:57] <ppf> because it's computing stuff
[20:57] <CoderEurope> it shouldn't do that - I have an i7
[20:57] <ppf> what, so?
[20:57] <aruns> Hi quick question as am on Ubuntu 16.
[20:58] <aruns> Were you ever able to install PHP 7 natively on Ubuntu 15, or did you need to use a PPA?
[20:58] <Night_> which port did dhcp -6 use on udp again?
[20:58] <ppf> !info php7 wiley
[20:58] <ppf> !info php7 wily
[20:58] <aruns> Thanks :D @ppf
[20:58] <CoderEurope> Ok, let me put it to the devs - What ug is creating conditions that cheese is using 100% of my i7 CPU ?
[20:58] <ppf> !info php7.0 wily
[20:59] <CoderEurope> *bug
[20:59] <ppf> CoderEurope: ??
[20:59] <nicomach1s> aruns: wily is EOL
[20:59] <ppf> what are you talking about
[21:00] <aruns> nicomach1s: I said I have Ubuntu 16.
[21:00] <nicomach1s> aruns: oh, sorry, missed that
[21:00] <CoderEurope> I cant stand this - all I want is cheese to use less CPU power - that is all.
[21:00] <aruns> :P
[21:00] <aruns> Why are all you Ubuntu people about EOL :P
[21:00] <nicomach1s> I don't think php7 was released until xenial
[21:00] <Ben64> aruns: 16 what
[21:00] <Fitzz> ,set theme neongold
[21:00] <aruns> Ben64: 16.04.
[21:01] <hits1911> I should correct my  question. It doesn't happen with only "main()". It occurs when I #include <iostream>.
[21:01] <aruns> I will probably update tonight.
[21:01] <koroso> hey all i have a problem : code error when i try to install openssh-server
[21:01] <nicomach1s> aruns: because we have 4 EOL versions for every LTS. :)
[21:01] <koroso> someone can help me plz
[21:01] <aruns> nicomach1s: Yeah, I get that, but I think it shouldn't really make a difference for the average end user.
[21:01] <nicomach1s> koroso: can you paste the full output of the command to a pastebin and link here?
[21:01] <aruns> I only update when I can because of the work I do.
[21:01] <ppf> are you asking what it's _only_ 100%?
[21:01] <CoderEurope> I shall go - none the wiser, basically.
[21:01] <nicomach1s> aruns: true, but we can't support EOL versions.
[21:01] <ppf> the answer is probably because the cheese folks didn't care about threads
[21:02] <aruns> nicomach1s: Yeah, but that shouldn't stop people from using them :P
[21:02] <nicomach1s> !paste | koroso
[21:02] <nicomach1s> !pm | koroso
[21:02] <ppf> CoderEurope: cheese is doing stuff. doing stuff consumes 100% cpu
[21:02] <aruns> nicomach1s: It's because we use Vagrant at work for deploying our local servers.
[21:02] <nicomach1s> aruns: no, it should. if they aren't getting security updates people shouldn't be using them.
[21:02] <aruns> And the guys prefer using Ubuntu 14.04 VMs.
[21:02] <CoderEurope> ppf, Ahh Ok - so its not multi-core then - thats what you are saying ?
[21:02] <nicomach1s> koroso: try: sudo dkpg --configure -a
[21:03] <ppf> if it were, it would use more cpu
[21:03] <koroso> thx u
[21:03] <nicomach1s> aruns: 14.04 is not EOL until April of 2019
[21:03] <koroso> nico it return command not found
[21:04] <aruns> Ah didn't release that.
[21:04] <aruns> :P
[21:04] <aruns> *realise
[21:04] <nicomach1s> koroso: my fault, sorry. sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:04] <koroso> ok i try
[21:04] <aruns> nicomach1s: Well in any case, I had to write a case statement in our installation shell script.
[21:04] <aruns> So that it would add the PHP PPA if the machine wasn't running Ubuntu 16
[21:05] <nicomach1s> hmmm... I want to say that php7.0 should be backported by 14.04 by now
[21:05] <nicomach1s> !info php7.0 trusty
[21:05] <nicomach1s> bah
[21:05] <Ben64> new packages don't get added to releases
[21:07] <koroso> it doesnt work
[21:08] <Night_> simple enough to get php working with nginx/apache without ppa tbh
[21:08] <OerHeks> koroso, can you pastebin your command and output? paste.ubuntu.com
[21:08] <Ben64> koroso: type "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" and paste the results at http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the resulting link here
[21:08] <nicomach1s> yea, don't paste it in a pm to me :P
[21:09] <koroso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23630634/
[21:09] <koroso> it's done
[21:10] <nicomach1s> uhh... wasn't it in English when you sent it to me?
[21:10] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[21:11] <OerHeks> oh dear..
[21:11] <koroso> yes
[21:13] <trekstonia> hola
[21:13] <nicomach1s> hi trekstonia.
[21:13] <trekstonia> alguien me puede decir como puedo iniciar un programa de windows  en ubuntu mate
[21:13] <nicomach1s> !es | trekstonia
[21:14] <koroso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23630650/
[21:17] <trekstonia> no sale
[21:18] <koroso> noone can help me
[21:18] <nicomach1s> koroso: be patient
[21:18] <trekstonia> alguien escribe español aqui
[21:18] <koroso> hehehe ok
[21:18] <Ben64> koroso: déc. 14 22:04:51 koroso-eM350 sshd[21051]: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 1: Bad con
[21:18] <OerHeks> line 8 is clear: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 1: Bad con
[21:18] <Ben64> maybe bad config?
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> koroso  simply hit the up arrow to repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help you
[21:19] <koroso> ok
[21:20] <koroso> sorry i'm a newbe on ubuntu u don't understand whats that mean
[21:21] <koroso> ok ok
[21:21] <koroso> i guess i have to change line 1 on that file
[21:22] <OerHeks> follow the guide to setup your service https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[21:25] <rd> Hi
[21:25] <Guest77961> I was trying to do $sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^
[21:27] <Guest77961> and get the following error, How can i Fix it ?  - ERROR at   http://pastebin.com/P11xp0jN
[21:27] <Guest77961> Any help is much appreciated.
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> Guest77961  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[21:28] <rangemonger> did you type sudo apt update first?
[21:28] <erva> i have problem with gif photos on fb it does not open
[21:28] <erva> what can i do
[21:29] <Guest77961> Yes
[21:29] <Guest77961> i did
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> erva  how is that ubuntu related
[21:29] <OerHeks> Guest79799, is this from a gnome ppa?
[21:29] <theparadoxero2> hey can anyone help me ?
[21:29] <erva> i use ubuntu
[21:29] <Guest77961> no it is not.
[21:29] <Guest77961> i did not add any Gnome REPO.
[21:30] <rangemonger> theparadoxero2: we can try, whats up?
[21:30] <theparadoxero2> do anyone tried tcsh shell on ubuntu 15.04 ?
[21:30] <thrmo> i want to install qt linguist gui on ubuntu 16.10 how can i find which package has it on the repos'
[21:30] <Guest77961> as it is Gnome Ubuntu , straight away it should happen.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> theparadoxero2  15.04 id dead
[21:30] <theparadoxero2> i tried to install tcsh shell
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> is*
[21:30] <nicomach1s> !EOL | theparadoxero2
[21:31] <Guest77961> MonkeyDust, here is the output of /etc/issue
[21:31] <Guest77961> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[21:31] <theparadoxero2> by the command "sudo apt-get install tcsh" and i got the error "E: Method http has died unexpectedly!"
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> theparadoxero2  because your ubuntu version is dead
[21:32] <nicomach1s> theparadoxero2: you need to upgrade to a supported version. please see the link above about EOL upgrades
[21:32] <Guest77961> rangemonger, Would you check and help me get this done ?
[21:32] <thrmo> i want to install qt linguist gui on ubuntu 16.10 how can i find which package has it on the repos?
[21:32] <theparadoxero2> ok @Monkeytust
[21:32] <nicomach1s> thrmo: you can try using apt-cache search <packagename>
[21:32] <erva> is there an app like flashplayer for gif pics
[21:32] <erva> ?
[21:32] <alagunag01> yeah
[21:32] <nicomach1s> erva: eog (the standard image viewer) will do gifs
[21:32] <nicomach1s> you can use something like mpv for gifv or webm
[21:32] <alagunag01> what are your from
[21:33] <theparadoxero2> is there any good alternative of sticky notes on for ubuntu ?
[21:33] <thrmo> nicomach1s thats the problem i don't know the packagename
[21:33] <erva> thanx
[21:33] <rangemonger> Guest77961: ill try
[21:33] <Guest77961> Thanks rangemonger
[21:34] <theparadoxero2> is there any good alternative of sticky notes on for ubuntu ?
[21:35] <rangemonger> Guest77961: are you installing it from within regular ubuntnu?
[21:35] <nicomach1s> theparadoxero2: not until you upgrade to a supported version
[21:36] <theparadoxero2> nicomachus: what for updated version ?
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> theparadoxero2  type    /topic
[21:36] <Guest77961> Yes
[21:36] <Guest77961> i am installing it within regular Ubuntu
[21:36] <nicomach1s> theparadoxero2: you said you were on ubuntu 15.04. that version is EOL. You need to upgrade to at least 16.04
[21:36] <nicomach1s> !EOL | theparadoxero2 see links here on how to upgrade:
[21:36] <rangemonger> Guest77961: ill see if i get the same error on mine
[21:37] <Guest77961> rangemonger, i am following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Installation  , Final Install section of page.
[21:37] <Guest77961> Ok rangemonger
[21:37] <Guest77961> Thanks
[21:38] <xangua> Guest77961: what error?
[21:38] <Guest77961> xangua,  http://pastebin.com/P11xp0jN  - ERROR While installing Ubuntu Gnome from within Ubuntu OS
[21:39] <Guest77961> xangua, I am trying to do $sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^
[21:39] <xangua> Guest77961: why are you trying to install gnome 3.20 in central?
[21:39] <xangua> Xenial
[21:40] <rangemonger> Guest77961: basically, im trying sudo apt update, sudo apt upgrade, sudo apt-distupgrade, sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[21:40] <Guest77961> I am not.
[21:41] <ramsub07> Hi, how can i infinitely scroll up the terminal ?
[21:41] <Guest77961> xangua, earlier i had Gnome 3.20 and it screwed my system not allowing me to login and bringing me back to same login screen again and again. Then I've removed it , Gnome 3.20
[21:41] <ramsub07> I did a very long computation, worth 2days and the results are pasted to the terminal
[21:42] <wafflejock> Guest77961, looks like 3.2 is still marked to be installed causing the package conflicts
[21:42] <rangemonger> xangua: i just was hit with the same problem, 2 days ago, hdd got full, that was the result
[21:43] <Darkchaos> Does KVM Support multiple qemu instances at once?
[21:43] <vfw> rangemonger: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt upgrade sudo apt dist-upgrade
[21:43] <Guest77961> wafflejock, how can i remove anything and everything related to Gnome 3.2?
[21:43] <wafflejock> Guest77961, when you tried adding it and removing it did you do that using apt and a ppa or something or?  Were you able to remove/purge the 3.2 failed install?
[21:43] <rangemonger> vfw: right, right, the fast way
[21:43] <sruli> ramsub07: in terminal go to Profile Prefrences > scrolling > check the "unlimited" box
[21:43] <vfw> rangemonger: and then, sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[21:44] <sruli> Darkchaos: do you mean multiple guests?
[21:44] <haimzur8x> Hi guys, I'm having issues with the NVIDIA 375.20 driver on Unbuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[21:44] <rangemonger> Darkchaos: ask me again in 10 min and ill try
[21:44] <xangua> Guest77961: xenial comes with gnome 3.18, so you added a PPA repository to get 3.20, the thing is one day it can work and the next day it won't
[21:44] <haimzur8x> will it be possible to get some wisedom?
[21:44] <Darkchaos> sruli: Exactly
[21:44] <Guest77961> Check this error once - http://pastebin.com/y5612630   wafflejock xangua
[21:44] <vfw> rangemonger: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade  && sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[21:45] <sruli> Darkchaos: sure, depending on your hardware you can run many
[21:45] <Guest77961> 3.2 failed install i've removed using apt,
[21:45] <vfw> rangemonger: Are you 16.04 ?
[21:45] <Darkchaos> I tried that I can't run VirtualBox and Qemu Guests at once due to "device busy" but I could also imagine that kvm being a kernel module and basically passing the cpu through that there would be issues when multiple devices try to access these
[21:45] <rangemonger> vwf: yeah, i keep forgetting about using &&
[21:45] <vfw> rangemonger: Ok good.
[21:46] <ramsub07> sruli: i did that but i'm not able to scroll up beyond what I was initially able to do
[21:46] <Guest77961> wafflejock, do you like to see my sources.list file ?
[21:46] <rangemonger> Dark_Arc: did you try running the vbox guest not in kvm mode?
[21:46] <haimzur8x> would really appreciate some assistance
[21:46] <nicomach1s> !ask | haimzur8x
[21:46] <Guest77961> wafflejock, now i do not have 3.2 PPA in that sources.list file
[21:46] <rangemonger> vfw: 16.10
[21:46] <haimzur8x> Alright sorry
[21:46] <Darkchaos> rangemonger: Yes but it resulted in a blue screen on the guest after a few seconds
[21:46] <wafflejock> Guest77961, well typically I would start poking around with apt-cache search packagename to see where things are coming from or not coming and check packaages.ubuntu.com for anything it says are missing
[21:47] <sruli> ramsub07: that setting is for future... it wont recover deleted entries
[21:47] <rangemonger> Darkchaos: i know that having vbox installed just makes xen not work at all
[21:47] <wafflejock> Guest77961, once you clean something out of your sources.list you can apt update to get the new list of packages and the apt-cache and installs should come from the right place but as is says you can't get gdm which seems real strange
[21:47] <vfw> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop yakkety | rangemonger
[21:47] <rangemonger> Darkchaos: but if you just only run kvm, you should be able to do multiple guests at once
[21:48] <vfw> rangemonger: But I use xfce ;)
[21:48] <rangemonger> vfw: i like xfce better too
[21:48] <wafflejock> Guest77961, I think I've worked around the problem you have now by manually installing the "dependent" packages but think it is a sign something is broken in the package manager so wouldn't necessarily recommend that as the fix
[21:48] <haimzur8x> Hi guys, I'm having issues with the NVIDIA 375.20.run file from NVIDIA website, my GPU graphics card is newly installed and it's GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC, I'm getting a warning that tells me I have nvidia-350 version installed already, although I went through the tutorial and uninstalled it completely using apt-get
[21:49] <Guest77961> OK wafflejock
[21:49] <vfw> haimzur8x: You have to pick one or the other.
[21:49] <haimzur8x> I ended up rm rf the old 32 bit .so files but it still tells me the nvidia-350 is installed
[21:49] <vfw> haimzur8x: If you installed an nvidia driver via apt, you'll have to uninstall that one first, and then the one you've just downloaded.
[21:50] <haimzur8x> I've uninstalled everything
[21:50] <nicomach1s> 32 bit....?
[21:50] <Guest77961> wafflejock, those 3 dependencies are showing sub dependencies and on and on
[21:50] <vfw> haimzur8x: Oh, ok...  Well you probably need to reboot
[21:50] <haimzur8x> Yes that what was left of the nvidia-350 files
[21:50] <rangemonger> Guest77961: works fine for me
[21:50] <haimzur8x> did it also and reverted to nouevou even
[21:51] <wafflejock> Guest77961, yeah sorry I imagine something is wrong now in dpkg with the selections but I'm unsure how to fix that properly
[21:51] <haimzur8x> the *.run nvidia file tells me it 350 still installed despite the fact I cleaned everything
[21:51] <Guest77961> as wafflejock says something is broken with my package manager
[21:51] <rangemonger> Darkchaos: ok, im about to try 2 guests at once, kvm
[21:51] <vfw> haimzur8x: You also have to kill the Xserver
[21:51] <haimzur8x> vfw: gotcha
[21:51] <vfw> haimzur8x: (go to console mode)
[21:51] <Guest77961> OK wafflejock , thanks for all the inputs.
[21:51] <Ben64> haimzur8x: yeah thats the way wrong way to do things
[21:52] <haimzur8x> Good to know, so what's the best method
[21:52] <haimzur8x> apt-get?
[21:52] <wafflejock> Guest77961, no problem maybe check out dpkg get selection or set selection options, but possibly someone else here can help point you the right way
[21:52] <Ben64> haimzur8x: yeah, apt is how to install things
[21:53] <Bashing-om> Guest77961: Maybe we get a strong hint from the output of ' apt-cache policy gnome-shell-common ' .
[21:54] <Guest77961> Bashing-om,
[21:54] <Guest77961> BBOX:~$ sudo apt-cache policy gnome-shell-common
[21:54] <Guest77961> gnome-shell-common:
[21:54] <Guest77961>   Installed: 3.20.4-0ubuntu2~ubuntu16.04.1
[21:54] <Guest77961>   Candidate: 3.20.4-0ubuntu2~ubuntu16.04.1
[21:54] <Guest77961>   Version table:
[21:54] <vfw> haimzur8x: If you are running lightdm, stop it first.
[21:54] <vfw> haimzur8x: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[21:54] <haimzur8x> stop: Unknown instance:
[21:54] <haimzur8x> I'm on ssh
[21:54] <haimzur8x> service lightdm stop
[21:54] <vfw> haimzur8x: are you 16.04?
[21:54] <haimzur8x> 14.04.5 LTS
[21:55] <vfw> haimzur8x: sudo service lightdm stop  #Does not work?
[21:55] <rangemonger> Darkchaos: 2 at the same time, works fine
[21:55] <Guest77961> i will send it in pastebin
[21:55] <vfw> haimzur8x: Which WM do you use?
[21:55] <Guest77961> Bashing-om,
[21:55] <Bashing-om> Guest77961: Pastebin that output. please .
[21:56] <vfw> haimzur8x: Which DE do you use?
[21:56] <Guest77961> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/QTYYrHCi
[21:57] <Darkchaos> rangemonger: Thanks for trying out :) Then it is only an issue when multiple virtualizers try to access kvm.
[21:57] <haimzur8x> Not using any I believe
[21:57] <haimzur8x> but I have ubuntu-desktop installed
[21:58] <haimzur8x> as we speak I've just cleaned every driver I had
[21:58] <vfw> haimzur8x: You are not using a Desktop Environment?
[21:58] <haimzur8x> no, but I want to
[21:58] <haimzur8x> it's just crash because of the driver
[21:58] <Ben64> haimzur8x: "cleaned every driver i had" what does that mean?
[21:58] <vfw> haimzur8x: You are not using a Window Manager?
[21:58] <xangua> Guest77961: as far as I know, Ubuntu xenial comes with gnome 3.18, did you add a third party repository?
[21:58] <haimzur8x> that would be correct
[21:58] <haimzur8x> not using any
[21:58] <vfw> haimzur8x: Are you using any sort of Graphic User Interface?
[21:58] <haimzur8x> I've tried lightdm but it kept crashing because of the driver I believe
[21:59] <haimzur8x> no, just ssh at the moment
[21:59] <vfw> haimzur8x: Ok, so it is in console mode already?
[21:59] <haimzur8x> I'm remote sshing it
[21:59] <Ben64> haimzur8x: use this ppa to get the latest nvidia https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[22:00] <Guest77961> No xangua i did not add any third party repository after removing 3.2 , But for 3.2 i've added a repository.
[22:00] <vfw> haimzur8x: So what is the exact error you get?  What is the name of the file?
[22:00] <Guest77961> Bashing-om, did you see my pastebin output.
[22:00] <haimzur8x> will do, thanks
[22:00] <Bashing-om> Guest77961: Yjat elevated package is still reported in "  100 /var/lib/dpkg/status " which means it was not properly removed . Now there may be a huge issue to remove the 3.20.4-0ubuntu2~ubuntu16.04.1 version .
[22:00] <haimzur8x> can I post a link to screenshot?
[22:00] <Bashing-om> That*
[22:00] <Ben64> haimzur8x: yep
[22:01] <Ben64> haimzur8x: although you said you don't have graphics ...
[22:01] <vfw> haimzur8x: Or you can give command with  |& nc termbin.com 9999  at the end of it and send us the resulting URL
[22:01] <haimzur8x> I thought you were referring to the error of the NVIDIA installer
[22:01] <Guest77961> Bashing-om, do we have no other way to Fix this ?
[22:01] <haimzur8x> my bad
[22:01] <xangua> Guest77961: you did not add but then you added? What
[22:02] <haimzur8x> anyway everytime now I'm running apt-get update
[22:02] <haimzur8x> I keep getting plenty of these
[22:02] <vfw> haimzur8x: Yes, that is what we are refering to.
[22:02] <haimzur8x> */sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libm17n-core.so.0 is not a symbolic link
[22:02] <vfw> haimzur8x: Ok when you get done try again.
[22:02] <haimzur8x> OK, i'm doing it as we speak
[22:02] <haimzur8x> thanks for the help guys, much appreciated
[22:02] <Bashing-om> Guest77961: How did you get the 3.20.4-0ubuntu2~ubuntu16.04.1 version installed ? May have to re-install it to properly remove it to get nack to the supported 3.18.5-0ubuntu0.2 version .
[22:03] <Guest77961> xangua, before trying this i've installed 3.2 by adding PPA and it disabled my login access , then i've removed it using apt and fixed my sources.list file.
[22:03] <Ben64> haimzur8x: you should really use the ppa i linked to you
[22:03] <haimzur8x> Ben64 on it right now
[22:03] <vfw> haimzur8x: What is the exact command you are using?
[22:03] <Ben64> cool
[22:04] <xangua> Guest77961: removing it how? And how did you "fix"your source file?
[22:04] <Guest77961> So should i add 3.2 PPA back again and install it ? Bashing-om & xangua
[22:04] <Guest77961> i had my Original file from perfect days , replaced the latest with the old one.
[22:04] <vfw> haimzur8x: As Ben64 points out, if you install the Nvidia driver manually, (the way you are attempting to do it now), each and every time you upgrade the kernel, you will have to re-install it. (So it is better to install it via the package management system.)
[22:04] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | Guest77961
[22:05] <xangua> Guest77961: that's not how one "fixes"apt
[22:05] <xxxx> Hi. How can i make 2 partitions on my HD, one empty and another with kubuntu that i allready download and have in a usb? i tried with ubuntu but i have the problem that is in all my HD so i cannot use anything elese
[22:05] <vfw> haimzur8x: And, if you have just done updates, and have upgraded to a new kernel, you should reboot.
[22:05] <EriC^> xxxx: manually partition, in the installer choose "SOmething else"
[22:05] <xxxx> i want to install from scratch, delete ubuntu
[22:05] <Guest77961> true xangua , i was fed up trying an trying in my limited knowledge.
[22:06] <haimzur8x> Still updating
[22:06] <xxxx> great! now.. i need another for boot?
[22:06] <haimzur8x> I'll reboot when it's done
[22:07] <haimzur8x> I think I've already added this ppa
[22:07] <vfw> xxxx: You should be able to create partitions as you see fit.
[22:07] <haimzur8x> how can I find the repository file?
[22:07] <Guest77961> Bashing-om, Should i install 3.2 again ?
[22:07] <Ben64> haimzur8x: added properly, it'll be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:08] <EriC^> xxxx: no, you just need a partition for "/" and swap if you want to hibernate or very low ram
[22:08] <haimzur8x> got this file graphics-drivers-ppa-trusty.list
[22:09] <xxxx> very low ram actualy.. can you give me a link or an explanation for the last thing you said (Eric)
[22:09] <haimzur8x> which contains # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main # disabled $
[22:09] <haimzur8x> # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
[22:09] <Bashing-om> Guest77961: In my opinion that is the better way out of this . Once re-installed from the PPA , then properly revert the package to what is in the repo with ' ppa-purge' command.
[22:09] <vfw> xxxx: What is the size of your Hard Drive?
[22:09] <Ben64> haimzur8x: well it's disabled heh
[22:09] <xxxx> 500
[22:09] <haimzur8x> oh snap
[22:10] <vfw> xxxx: How much RAM you have?
[22:10] <vfw> xxxx: Radnom Access Memory?
[22:10] <Ben64> haimzur8x: are you sure you're not on 16.04?
[22:10] <xxxx> 2, i'll put 4 in a month or maybe less but a 64bit cmputer
[22:10] <vfw> xxxx: Ok.  Here is what I would do if it were me:
[22:11] <haimzur8x> 3.16.0-77-generic #99~14.04.1-Ubuntu
[22:11] <vfw> xxxx: 4G swap partition, 80G / partition, and the rest for /home/
[22:11] <mate|9674> hi
[22:11] <Guest77961> sure Bashing-om
[22:11] <vfw> xxxx: 3 partitions
[22:11] <xangua> 80 GB for / !!?
[22:12] <vfw> xangua: Yes.
[22:12] <xangua> Only if you fill it with 3 or more Linux distros combined
[22:12] <Bashing-om> Guest77961: K; Make sure you get the syntax of " « sudo
[22:12] <mate|9674> linux distrobutions are too similar nowadays in order for there to be a real difference. Perhaps a desktop / server difference in setup but other than that not much
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Guest77961: K; Make sure you get the syntax of " « sudo
[22:13] <Bashing-om>                 ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> »
[22:13] <xxxx> i need put windows in the other (music software-hdmi) that's the idea of making an linux partition and another empty
[22:13] <Guest77961> Bashing-om, i've got it from this page --> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[22:14] <xxxx> so, the /home/ will be ok if i divided in half and the other half empty with fat32?
[22:14] <Ben64> haimzur8x: what does lsb_release -a say
[22:15] <haimzur8x> Ben64 you are right
[22:15] <haimzur8x> I'm on 16.04
[22:15] <xxxx> no, i'm missunderstood (bad english now i guess), i'm follow you now
[22:15] <haimzur8x> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[22:15] <haimzur8x> Description: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[22:15] <haimzur8x> Release: 16.04
[22:15] <haimzur8x> Codename: xenial
[22:15] <Ben64> haimzur8x: well you've got some weird stuff going on
[22:15] <vfw> xangua: I do not believe you would fill your / partition with 3 or more Linux distros.  We are talking about one install, and yes, it is possible to use up 30 or 40G easily, and sometimes 50 or 60G, so Yes I recomend 70 or 80G just to be safe.
[22:15] <haimzur8x> No it was my bad, my brother did an upgrade and I didn't know
[22:16] <Ben64> 3.16 isn't a 16.04 kernel, nor is it a 14.04 kernel
[22:16] <haimzur8x> shit
[22:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh nice back iin here
[22:16] <haimzur8x> am I screwed?
[22:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> haimzur8x, what's your issue?
[22:16] <vfw> xangua: At first, yes, you will only use a fraction of it, but we should plan for the future.
[22:16] <Ben64> haimzur8x: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[22:16] <haimzur8x> I did a bad thing while using the NVIDIA installer for 375.20
[22:16] <haimzur8x> will do
[22:16] <Ben64> haimzur8x: eh you got bigger problems than that :)
[22:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> gpu passthrough?
[22:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> haimzur8x, installed  driver from repo?
[22:19] <cerealguy> i'm having trouble on another ubuntu machine with a USB wifi adapter.  is /var/log/syslog and dmesg the only two sources i have for starting to figure out what's going on with it?
[22:19] <haimzur8x> http://pastebin.com/8Hq4Mzij
[22:20] <Ben64> haimzur8x: weird. try installing 'linux-image-generic'
[22:21] <haimzur8x> Ben64 can you guide me how? will it overrite current configuration for my services?
[22:21] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[22:21] <haimzur8x> thanks
[22:21] <Ben64> won't touch services at all, just gives you a new kernel
[22:21] <vfw> haimzur8x: lsb_release -r
[22:21] <haimzur8x> awesome
[22:22] <xxxx> vfw: the "/" are the empty one?
[22:22] <haimzur8x> 16.04
[22:22] <haimzur8x> my stupid brother upgraded the system
[22:22] <haimzur8x> I hope it won't get screwed
[22:23] <damv> hola
[22:23] <damv> Hi
[22:23] <vfw> xxxx: What exactly are you trying to do?  (No, the / partition is not to be an empty partition, it will contain kernels and applications and much more in the way of system files).
[22:24] <xxxx> kubuntu and 80g for windows (i don't have win now but an empty partition for install it when i have it)
[22:24] <vfw> xxxx: The / partition will be occupied by the root partition for the operating system containing *many* application files, cache, logs and configuration files.  The most important stuff.
[22:25] <xxxx> i understand now that
[22:25] <xangua> xxxx: how big is your HDD? 80 GB, at least for windows, looks too little
[22:26] <vfw> xxxx: If you are intending to dual boot with MS Windows, you should first install MS Windows, and then install linux. (You did not tell us you were wanting to create a dual boot system...)
[22:26] <xxxx> so, 4g swap, 80g "/", --- /home/ and 80g for windows? (i just need windows for 2 softwares, i'll use linux for everything else)
[22:26] <xxxx> 500hd
[22:26] <vfw> xangua: He said it was 500 (I assume he means 500G).
[22:27] <Ben64> xxxx: what 2 softwares
[22:27] <vfw> xxxx: 500 Gigabytes.  Right?
[22:28] <xxxx> right... 1 tacticX alienware mouse (for edit) and a Fender Fuse for the guitar amp)
[22:28] <xxxx> 490, 470... something like that
[22:28] <vfw> xxxx: If you are going to create a dual boot system, install MS Windows first, then install Linux with only a 4G swap partition and the rest for / (Only 2 partitions.)
[22:29] <xxxx> not /home/ then?
[22:29] <vfw> xxxx: Just leave about 150 or 200G for MS Windows, and the rest for Linux.  But first install MS Windows, and then Ubuntu.
[22:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, sperrate /home is optional, if needed enough depends
[22:29] <vfw> xxxx: Correct
[22:29] <tgm4883> that seems excessive, even for windowws
[22:29] <haimzur8x> i'm installing the linux-image-generic as we speak
[22:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, by default ubuntu woudn't give you a /home but can be useful to have depends
[22:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, no seperate /home by default
[22:30] <vfw> tgm4883: Any amount of space is exessive, IMO ;)
[22:30] <xxxx> sorry my ignorance.. depens?
[22:30] <tgm4883> heh, fair enough
[22:30] <wedgie> xxxx: depends on your needs.
[22:30] <xxxx> ha, ok
[22:31] <xxxx> i got it! thank so much guys!
[22:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, changing around distros havig one than on on there, yescould be useful to move around data  share betweeen.  easy install of ubuntu without having to worry about some dataa, yescould be usefufl
[22:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !home
[22:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh yahoo has had one billion accounts stolen
[22:31] <tgm4883> The only reason I can think of to have a separate home partition is if you want to ensure you won't fill up your root partition on accident
[22:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> news just in
[22:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> data from,  got tv news on
[22:31] <vfw> tgm4883: I'm joking of course, but it is my experience that most that build a dual boot system with MS Windows and Linux will end up neglecting MS Windows after a fairly short time.
[22:31] <nacc> !ot | SebthreeBQM10HD
[22:31] <wedgie> SebthreeBQM10HD: again?
[22:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nacc yes ot
[22:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> wedgie, I guess so then
[22:32] <vfw> tgm4883: If one is inetersted in Linux, the Linux interest will eventually win out...
[22:33] <xxxx> or... can i have Fender Fuse on linux... i'm having trouble to find something in google (i realy don't like win)
[22:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> tgm4883, xxxx  yeah or seperate /home so don't hhave to worry about / getting to full
[22:33] <xxxx> oh
[22:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, you could do like 16gb / for ubuntu  maybe 20, but 16 should be more than enough really
[22:34] <haimzur8x> at the end of the installation
[22:34] <haimzur8x> http://pastebin.com/AusJ3Rfw
[22:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, Linux programs genrally don't take that much space, and i  mean 16gb if going to have a seperate /home
[22:35] <xxxx> yea, but the archives.
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, the seperate /home would then be reasonably big since you would be having some actsual data peresonal files in there, as well as program user data in the hidden  dot folders show hiden filesa nd folderes,  the option, but those aren't usaully big
[22:35] <xxxx> are HQ photoshop posters and heavy stuff
[22:35] <Ben64> haimzur8x: do you run a mail server?
[22:35] <haimzur8x> nope
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, .vrituablox  with virtual machines would get big
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if had that
[22:36] <Ben64> then why do you have spamassassin?
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> virtualbox
[22:36] <vfw> SebthreeBQM10HD: I don't think so.....
[22:36] <haimzur8x> can't tell really
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, what file format are the hq  posters in ?
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> anything you want to be sure to keep should be on more than one drive anyway really
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> more than one copy
[22:36] <Ben64> haimzur8x: uh.. ok. sudo apt-get purge spamassassin sa-compile
[22:37] <vfw> SebthreeBQM10HD: seperate /home so don't have to worry about / getting full"?
[22:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but /home can make it easier to re install without having to worry about putting back on perosnal files for example
[22:37] <haimzur8x> done
[22:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> vfw, tha's what tgm4883 put
[22:37] <vfw> SebthreeBQM10HD: But I agree that VB might be a good alternative.
[22:37] <haimzur8x> I can't reboot now
[22:37] <tgm4883> what did I say?
[22:37] <haimzur8x> and it gave an error
[22:38] <Ben64> haimzur8x: why can't you reboot, and what error
[22:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> vfw, virtualbox was an example I gave to xxxx  on something where /home could get quite full up,  if got big virtual machine files in there yeah
[22:38] <xxxx> jpg, tiff.. wma music (1200 kbps or more for song) i'm wonna work as sick
[22:38] <haimzur8x> http://pastebin.com/NABk2XXW
[22:39] <haimzur8x> The program 'reboot' can be found in the following packages:
[22:39] <haimzur8x> * initscripts
[22:39] <haimzur8x> * systemd-sysv
[22:39] <haimzur8x> * upstart-sysv
[22:39] <haimzur8x> * molly-guard
[22:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, ok  I think you may as well make a seprate /home since you mentioend it to, you know you can, and easier to do so on install,  but you should bakc up your important data esle wehre to as in on another hard disk or usb etc
[22:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, things can go wrong with  hared disks and  so on so
[22:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, as an example with  say a hard disk of 100GB, I would give  16gb of it to /  maybe 20gb  instead,  and then the rest of it so like 80gb would be the /home
[22:40] <Ben64> haimzur8x: looks like your system is pretty broken
[22:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, and i would do similar type things for other  kind of hard disk spaces etc
[22:40] <Ben64> haimzur8x: would be easier probably to install 16.04 fresh
[22:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> something not to big for / but big enough when having a big seperate /home basically
[22:40] <haimzur8x> gotcha
[22:40] <haimzur8x> I actually will return to 14.04.5
[22:41] <Ben64> why?
[22:41] <Ben64> if you're going to reinstall, might as well go for the newest LTS
[22:41] <haimzur8x> because I have a golden machine and I need the exact same setup
[22:41] <Ben64> that doesn't make sense though
[22:41] <xxxx> but i'll go to some place and pay low cost to edit my win softwares, all linux (4g swap, 80g "/" and /home/) seems perfect and i'wont have any personal thing.. i'm gonna have later, when everything works fine
[22:42] <haimzur8x> Ben64 I can't reboot after I installed the new kernel
[22:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xxxx, uh your goign to dual boot with windows?
[22:42] <haimzur8x> maybe if i'll reboot it would be loaded and work
[22:42] <Ben64> haimzur8x: you still are missing a lot of important stuff
[22:43] <Ben64> could go through each one and try to fix it, but a reinstall would be easier for sure
[22:43] <Ben64> and 16.04 has a lot of good features over 14.04
[22:43] <Ben64> live kernel patching for free, better implementation of the HWE kernels
[22:43] <xxxx> i decided NOT. i'ts just for 2 softwares that i will use maybe every month if i'm out of luck
[22:43] <vfw> haimzur8x: Do you have a separate partition for /home/ ?
[22:44] <Ben64> you were stuck on an outdated HWE kernel on 14.04 for a long time
[22:44] <haimzur8x> nothing in /home but the setup was sweet
[22:44] <haimzur8x> ran gunicorn
[22:44] <haimzur8x> have some python script
[22:44] <haimzur8x> everything in the /
[22:44] <Ben64> leaving you vulnerable to big bugs for about a year and a half
[22:44] <haimzur8x> I worked on that setup for a long time
[22:44] <vfw> raibutera: I agree with Ben64, nothing beats a fresh install.
[22:44] <Ben64> 16.04 would be the optimal choice at this time
[22:44] <haimzur8x> I have a similiar machine
[22:44] <haimzur8x> probably I can clone from there
[22:45] <haimzur8x> but it runs 14.04
[22:45] <raibutera> ?
[22:45] <raibutera> vfw
[22:45] <Ben64> what setup are you referring to
[22:45] <vfw> raibutera: Yes?
[22:45] <haimzur8x> A web server with some tweaks
[22:45] <haimzur8x> workers, gunicorn
[22:45] <raibutera> 22:44:48] vfw:	raibutera: I agree with Ben64, nothing beats a fresh install.
[22:45] <Ben64> good news, web servers work in 16.04!
[22:46] <haimzur8x> lol, yeah I bet they are
[22:46] <haimzur8x> it would just be messy to start from scratch tho'
[22:46] <Ben64> you wouldn't have to...
[22:46] <Ben64> the configuration wouldn't have changed that extreme
[22:46] <xxxx> every answer was helpful, thanks a lot and sorry any bad english of my fingers! best of luck
[22:47] <haimzur8x> Alright, I guess that what I'll do then
[22:47] <vfw> haimzur8x: Do you have separate partition for /home/ ?  And do you use symlinks for the web-sites?
[22:47] <vfw> haimzur8x: If so, it is a piece of cake.
[22:47] <haimzur8x> I do, but like I said, home is pretty much empty
[22:47] <vfw> haimzur8x: How can that be?
[22:47] <haimzur8x> the important stuff is on /
[22:48] <haimzur8x> It's a gunicorn web server basically
[22:48] <haimzur8x> also have gearman installed
[22:48] <haimzur8x> and a bunch of python scripts
[22:48] <haimzur8x> I think I'll handle it
[22:49] <haimzur8x> Thanks for trying to help guys
[22:49] <vfw> haimzur8x: Ok good luck.
[22:50] <bi921> hello, not sure if this is the place to ask but do anyone have experience with running asp net on ubuntu servers via mono
[22:50] <haimzur8x> Last question, let's say I have a sweet machine that runs on a very old hardware, I want to migrate to a new one
[22:50] <haimzur8x> will tarball will be a good solution with some exclusions of course
[22:50] <haimzur8x> or no easy way?
[22:50] <vfw> haimzur8x: Swap the HD
[22:51] <haimzur8x> really? that simple?
[22:51] <helohello> anyone around?
[22:51] <helohello> I recently did an update from ubuntu 14.04 to 16, and somethign went horribly wrong
[22:52] <haimzur8x> what if the HD dies?
[22:52] <haimzur8x> helohello just went through the same thing as we speak :)
[22:52] <helohello> I chrooted into the partition and ran dpkg --configure a
[22:52] <helohello> apt-get update
[22:52] <helohello> apt-get upgrade
[22:53] <helohello> but nothing is working, now I have two options from grub normal / upstart and recovery
[22:53] <helohello> upstart just hangs at the ubuntu launch screen
[22:53] <tgm4883> that's.... not how you upgrade to 16.04
[22:54] <helohello> this is after the upgrade failed
[22:54] <helohello> when the upgrade failed, nothing worked
[22:54] <vfw> haimzur8x: you could use http://clonezilla.org/
[22:54] <helohello> if I try to launch normalling /sbin/init is missing and causes a kernal panic
[22:54] <vfw> lsb_release -r
[22:54] <haimzur8x> clonezilla doesn't support different hardware
[22:54] <vfw> helohello: lsb_release -r
[22:55] <haimzur8x> it works if you use a similar hardware
[22:55] <helohello> from where? I'm currently on a live usb
[22:55] <helohello> from chroot
[22:55] <haimzur8x> I thought tarballin' will be a good solution
[22:55] <helohello> ?
[22:55] <vfw> helohello: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[22:56] <vfw> helohello: You say that you have chrooted into the system.  Right?
[22:57] <helohello> Release:	16.04
[22:57] <helohello> vfw: yes
[22:57] <vfw> helohello: lsb_release -r  #Tell us what it says.
[22:58] <helohello> Release: 16.04
[22:58] <helohello> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS Release:	16.04 Codename:	xenial
[22:59] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get update
[23:00] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get update  |& nc termbin.com 9999  #send url
[23:00] <helohello> vfw: did that already
[23:00] <vfw> helohello: Did it complete without errors?
[23:00] <helohello> yes
[23:00] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get upgrade  |& nc termbin.com 9999  #send url
[23:00] <helohello> vfw: that has been done too
[23:00] <vfw> helohello: Without errors?
[23:01] <jamesc|2> I tried a new kernel 4.9 but did not work due to VMAP_STACK thing linus mentions is 5 available yet?
[23:02] <nacc> jamesc|2: that's not really an ubuntu question
[23:02] <OerHeks> haha kernel 5?
[23:02] <nacc> jamesc|2: but no, 4.10 has not opened yet
[23:02] <helohello> vfw: http://termbin.com/lahv
[23:02] <jamesc|2> I meant for Ubuntu of course
[23:02] <jamesc|2> as a .deb
[23:02] <OerHeks> maybe in mainline
[23:03] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:03] <OerHeks> !mainline
[23:03] <nacc> jamesc|2: 4.9 will only be in 17.04 as an official ubuntu package
[23:03] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get autoremove |& nc termbin.com 9999
[23:03] <nacc> jamesc|2: (or possibly later, depends, i suppose)
[23:03] <jamesc|2> thanks
[23:03] <vfw> helohello: If you have errors.  We will look too
[23:04] <helohello> vfw: http://termbin.com/jtzc
[23:06] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get upgrade |& nc termbin.com 9999
[23:08] <helohello> vfw: http://termbin.com/inu3
[23:09] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get -f install |& nc termbin.com 9999
[23:10] <helohello> vfw: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 396 not upgraded.
[23:11] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |& nc termbin.com 9999
[23:12] <helohello> oof thats pretty rough, no?
[23:12] <vfw> helohello: I don't know.  You tell me...
[23:13] <OerHeks> it does those 396 not upgraded. not to next distro version ..
[23:13] <OerHeks> !distupgrade
[23:13] <vfw> helohello: How's it going?
[23:13] <helohello> alright
[23:14] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:14] <vfw> helohello: Let us know of errors.
[23:14] <helohello> it goes
[23:15] <vfw> helohello: Tell us the what the last line says.
[23:15] <helohello> vfw:  ok
[23:16] <haimzur8x> I've also ran that
[23:16] <helohello> it's just going through the motions
[23:16] <haimzur8x> hope for good
[23:16] <helohello> will report back when it finishes
[23:16] <vfw> ok
[23:17] <skweek> http://askubuntu.com/questions/860726/s530-bluetooth-earpiece-detected-as-keyboard anyone want to take a look at this?
[23:18] <vfw> helohello: If you get errors, pastebin the last 20 or 30 lines.  If no errors, just the last line.
[23:18] <helohello> vfw: ok
[23:18] <helohello> it's in the l's right now
[23:18] <helohello> half-way haha
[23:21] <divansh> quit
[23:22] <rd> Hi Bashing-om
[23:23] <Guest46459> I am able to FIX my Gnome issue
[23:23] <Guest46459> Thanks for all your Help.
[23:23] <Guest46459> Hi
[23:23] <Guest46459> Hi Bashing-om
[23:23] <Guest46459> I've fixed my Gnome issue
[23:24] <Guest46459> Thanks for all the help.
[23:24] <Guest46459> I learned about onboarding and removing PPA's Today because of you and everyone helped me here.
[23:24] <Guest46459> Thanks Again.
[23:24] <Bashing-om> Guest46459: Great .. that was re-install the PPA and then ppa-purge ??
[23:27] <Guest46459> yes
[23:27] <Guest46459> I had to install 3.2 and then purge it
[23:27] <Guest46459> and do the commands from Ubuntu Page.
[23:28] <Bashing-om> Guest46459: Great to know what works ;' happy trails to you .
[23:31] <tacomaster> Hello I am using ubuntu 16.10 and was wondering if there was a way to make file manager transparent and change the color kinda like terminal
[23:32] <tacomaster> Because I looked on google but all i could find was how to change the color. I have seen videos with people that have transparent file managers though
[23:33] <vfw> tacomaster: Did you catch what Distro they were using?
[23:33] <vfw> tacomaster: And/or what DE?
[23:33] <tacomaster> vfw they were on ubuntu 16.04
[23:33] <tacomaster> but they were doing a video on compiz
[23:34] <tacomaster> I just happened to notice they had made the file manager transparent and black
[23:34] <tacomaster> I really want to do that too
[23:34] <Bashing-om> tacomaster: I think of "tranparency" as a xfce offering . But .. maybe in unity too (??) .
[23:35] <tacomaster> I cant spell very well but i think the proper term is opacicaty
[23:35] <tacomaster> or something like that
[23:35] <vfw> tacomaster: Maybe https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1116593.html
[23:35] <jpmh> I use unison to sync a pair of severs, one on each US coast.  The communicate as root over ssh - I have my sshd config set to allow only public key access and the ley is permitted pny from the other server.  I do howvere need to allow root login for this to work.  any other suggesttions
[23:35] <tacomaster> were you can see the wallpaper behind the main window
[23:36] <vfw> jpmh: sudo?
[23:37] <jpmh> vfw - would not help - that would still be a root login
[23:38] <wedgie> kinda...
[23:38] <wedgie> jpmh: what's the desired end state here?
[23:39] <wedgie> you do or don't want to enable a user to log in as root via ssh?
[23:39] <jpmh> wedgie - generally I do not like to allow root login, maybe been with ubuntu for too long, and so I am left with a feeling of discomfort.  Maybe what I am doing is secure enough, hence my comment at the start "any suggesions"?
[23:40] <wedgie> so it currently logs in as root but you'd like it not to?
[23:40] <jpmh> wedgie - I want to be able to unison sync the machines = I see no means other than root, but suggestions would be good
[23:40] <wedgie> so it currently logs in as root but you'd like it not to?
[23:40] <_Sym_> Is there a way to load windows 10 like a live cd so that I can apply a BIOS update to my laptop without having to actually install Windows?
[23:41] <jpmh> wedgie, yes, if there is any reason that the root is bad, then yes
[23:41] <jpmh> wedgie - I may be being too paranoid about the root login.  As I say, been on Ubuntu for to long maybe
[23:42] <wedgie> jpmh: not bad, per se. If it needs root then it needs root. Only other option is, as vfw said, sudo. Unless your sync doesn't actually require root privileges
[23:42] <jpmh> _Sym_ that is not an ubuntu support quesion
[23:42] <_Sym_> Well, then can I install a BIOS update in ubuntu?
[23:43] <wedgie> _Sym_: a lot of those bios updaters will run in DOS. Look into freedos if yours does. Can be booted from a usb drive
[23:43] <genii> _Sym_: If the BIOS update is in DOS, you can makea FreeDOS bootable USB, put the update application and BIN file on it, boot to it and do the update that way
[23:43] <jpmh> _Sym_ have your tried WINE
[23:43] <vfw> jpmh: You could restrict sshd access to certain IP
[23:44] <vfw> jpmh: But be careful to not lock yourself out
[23:44] <jpmh> vfw - yes, that is done - I have retsricted the machines that can connect as root to each other and no other
[23:44] <helohello> vfw: Errors were encountered while processing:  mysql-server-5.7  mysql-server E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:44] <_Sym_> I don't think my BIOS update will run in DOS.  It says that it requires Windows.
[23:44] <_Sym_> Ive tried to extract the files, but it doesnt look like it will work
[23:44] <helohello> but the last line is
[23:45] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get -f mysql-server
[23:45] <jpmh> vfw, I DO appreciate th warnings - but thogh of that.  I have a sudo enabled account that I use and it has two factor authentication.  Actually three factor
[23:45] <helohello> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:45] <_Sym_> and I dont really want a giant paper weight
[23:45] <vfw> helohello: or:  sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:45] <vfw> helohello: Can you pastebin a few lines?
[23:45] <jpmh> _Sym_ install Windoze as as vrtual machine
[23:46] <_Sym_> jpmh, now thats an idea
[23:46] <helohello> vfw: E: Command line option 'f' [from -f] is not understood in combination with the other options.
[23:46] <vfw> helohello: sudo apt-get -f install mysql-server
[23:46]  * haimzur8x is away (Autoaway after 30 minutes) messages will be saved *gSXc*
[23:46] <_Sym_> jpmh, but I'm not sure if that would work either
[23:46] <jpmh> _Sym_ I would be HIGHLY susciious of a BIOS update that required Windoze to install anyway
[23:47] <_Sym_> jpmh, all the new HP laptops are like that
[23:47] <jpmh> _Sym_ the virtual machine idea may not work - but it is VERY EASY to try, assuming you have a legal Windoze
[23:47] <helohello> vfw: mysql is throwing chroot errors
[23:47] <helohello> i can do that later
[23:47] <Bashing-om> _Sym_: There is also the possibility that your Bios is on chip . if so, consider the 'safer' alternative and replace the chip .
[23:47] <_Sym_> jpmh, my bios does not have any options to perform an update within the bios
[23:48] <_Sym_> jpmh, my system came with windows pre installed, but not with any cd
[23:48] <helohello> vfw: http://termbin.com/zhqa
[23:48] <jpmh> _Sym_ this is why I always recomend to people who buy low end laptops to leave a small Windoze partition on there
[23:49] <_Sym_> jpmh, yah, I would have but not enough space
[23:49] <genii> _Sym_: What is the model?
[23:49] <jpmh> _Sym_ a minimal Windoze is not that big - how small is your hard drive?
[23:49] <helohello> vfw: should I try to do anything else? autoremove?
[23:50] <helohello> and then try to boot?
[23:50] <_Sym_> jpmh, HP 250 G5 Notebook PC/81EB
[23:50] <_Sym_> jpmh, 250gb, but its full
[23:50] <Bashing-om> helohello: " E: Can not write log (Is /dev/pts mounted?)  " suggest that there is no full CHroot .
[23:50] <_Sym_> jpmh, can I install windows to an external hd?
[23:51] <helohello> Bashing-om: hm
[23:52] <_Sym_> jpmh, i wish i could just boot windows from a usb stick
[23:52] <jpmh> _Sym_ I have no idea - I regard Windoze as a VIRUS of thw worst order and would never allow it near a partition that I cared about.  I guess you could buy a $20 small hard drive, swap it in to the lap top, install Windoze, then do what you wan, and then re-insall the Ubuntu hard drive
[23:52] <helohello> Bashing-om: is there anything else I should do, do you think before trying to reboot into ubuntu?
[23:53] <_Sym_> jpmh, yah, im kinda scared to do that since i dont want to lose what im working on
[23:53] <_Sym_> jpmh, i also hate windows
[23:53] <jpmh> I would return the laptop under warranty - it is clearly not fit for use if it can not allow the bios to be updated without your installing a virus
[23:53] <jpmh> _Sym_ best way of no risk to waht you are working on is my ida of replace the HD then
[23:54] <jpmh> _Sym_ but why on eath do you have something that you can loose.  Tis is wha cloud backups are for
[23:54] <_Sym_> jpmh, yah, but then i lose warranty since there is no way of opening the case without breaking seals
[23:55] <jpmh> _Sym_ yet another reason to return it under warranty
[23:55] <helohello> well /sbin/init is there now
[23:55]  * haimzur8x is back (Autoaway after 30 minutes) after 8mins 51secs. *gSXc*
[23:55] <_Sym_> jpmh, i have it all on github, but its a pain in the you know what to set it all up again
[23:55] <helohello> so I think I can reboot
[23:55] <helohello> ill be back
[23:55] <Bashing-om> helohello: I jave not been payting that clos of attention . my concern hwere is if this is not a full CHange root as somthing like ' for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[23:55] <Bashing-om> sudo chroot /mnt
[23:56] <jpmh> _Sym_ if it is a pain then you do not have it set up right.  I bought a new laptop last week - took me less than 20 mins to be fully operational
[23:56] <Bashing-om> helohello: Then the upgrade will not work out.
[23:56] <tacomaster> is there a pip for python 3? because when i did pip and tab i get a 2.7 version as well
[23:56] <haimzur8x> Ben64 vfw thanks guys, looks like distr-upgrade did the trick eventually
[23:56] <haimzur8x> i'm now on 16.04 installed the nvidia upgrade
[23:56] <haimzur8x> driver i meant
[23:57] <_Sym_> jpmh, its takes days to download 150 gb of source code
[23:57] <yenclgj5nlw> Hi all! As I have already said, my PC hangs after recovery from S3 state. I have already tried the latest mainline kernel, it doesn't help much: when I use it i doesn't hang completely, but hdd io gone mad and I'm even unable to logon.
[23:57] <yenclgj5nlw> Any solutions?
[23:57] <jpmh> _Sym_ 1) no idea why it should take that long, 2) why do you need to download it all
[23:58] <jpmh> _Sym_ the more I hear the more I would say, either: 1) return the machine under warranty, 2) risk the warranty and install a replacement HD to do what you want, 3) accept that the bios is outdated, 4) try the virtual machine idea
[23:59] <_Sym_> jpmh, 1) it takes a long time because im on slow wifi and 2) it wont build without all the repos
[23:59] <jpmh> _Sym_ what is so important about ths bios update anyway?
[23:59] <helohello_> Ok I can start ubuntu
[23:59] <_Sym_> jpmh, probably nothing and the more I discuss it with you, the less I want to do it