[00:00] <helohello_> But attempting to log in is saying "failed to start session"
[00:00] <_Sym_> jpmh, I think the safest way is to disable the internal hd from the bios and use an external drive to boot off of
[00:01] <jpmh> sounds like time for a new compute anyway - I bought an Acer 14, last week, for $97 in Walmart, it has 802.11ac so th wifi is fast and the bios is clearly upto date
[00:01] <jpmh> took only a few mins to get Windoze off
[00:01] <_Sym_> jpmh, this is a new laptop
[00:01] <_Sym_> jpmh, skylake
[00:01] <jpmh> _Sym_ if it is new then relace it undr warranty
[00:02] <helohello_> Vfw: any suggestions?
[00:02] <_Sym_> jpmh, replacing it will not be easy to do and it will cost me more money that i dont really have right now
[00:02] <jpmh> _Sym_ image the HD, take the machine back - get a new one with an update BIOS
[00:03] <jpmh> _Sym_ if it is new why would replacing it cost anything - it is clearly dfective
[00:03] <_Sym_> jpmh, i cant do that every time a new bios is released. i would just like a method of updating it.
[00:03] <_Sym_> jpmh, its not defective, that is the way they are now
[00:04] <jpmh> _Sym_ any machine that has a BIOS that needs to be updated and provides no way to do it without installing a virus IS DEFECTIVE
[00:04] <_Sym_> jpmh, they wont agree
[00:04] <jpmh> _Sym_ it is not a matter of whethr they agree.  Facts are facts - just put it in dispute on your credit card
[00:04] <Bashing-om> helohello_: vfw :: Booting the install and at the login screen what results key combo ctl+alt+F1 ? can you log in here to the system ?
[00:05] <_Sym_> jpmh, well, HP is about the only option that I have in this country (im not in the US)
[00:05] <jpmh> _Sym_ of course you could ask yourself - why do I care about the BIOS upgrade and anyway, how did you even now that there was/is one 8nless you have some virus that "called home" and alerted you
[00:05] <_Sym_> jpmh, i looked on the HP website for software updates
[00:06] <jpmh> _Sym_ why?  is there something wrong with the one ypu have?
[00:06] <_Sym_> jpmh, there is nothing wrong. I just wanted to know if it was possible to update it
[00:06] <jpmh> _Sym_ with your multiple fears I wpuld be REALLY worried about updating a BIOS anyway simce that is always a ddgy operation that can easily brick the machine
[00:07] <_Sym_> jpmh, it says in the help pages that it requires windows to update the bios
[00:07] <jpmh> _Sym_ then you did not buy a laptop - you purchaed a Windoze machine that you are now ry9ng to use as a non-windoze machine
[00:07] <wedgie> _Sym_: what laptop, or better yet, link to the bios update?
[00:08] <_Sym_> jpmh, I also do not like windows so i put linux on it the first day
[00:08] <jpmh> _Sym_ eithr way, you have learned if you are going to buy a low end machine with Windoze on it, shrink the Windoze partition and leave it there when you install a real OS
[00:09] <_Sym_> wedgie, http://h20565.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=10180323&swLangOid=8&swEnvOid=4192
[00:10] <_Sym_> jpmh, i dont want any windows partitions on my laptops main drive
[00:10] <_Sym_> jpmh, i think i will just get an external drive
[00:10] <helohello_> Bashing-on: I was able to log in via terminal I'm just reinstalling everything in case the chroot failed to access things
[00:10] <_Sym_> jpmh, and disable the main hd in the bios
[00:10] <jpmh> so, vfw and wedgie - any other ideas on my security fears?
[00:11] <wedgie> _Sym_: really looks to me like sp76931.exe can be put on a freedos bootable usb and run from there.
[00:12] <_Sym_> wedgie, yes, I read also that people have done that. but when I extract the new exe, it looks very different from what I expected
[00:12] <wedgie> jpmh: sounds to me like your setup is sufficiently paranoid :)
[00:12] <wedgie> why are you "extracting" an exe?
[00:12] <jpmh> wedgie - ty - I hope so - sometimes it is noce to be called paranoid, isn't it?
[00:12] <_Sym_> wedgie, thats what I thought it said to do in some help page
[00:13] <Bashing-om> helohello_: K; I will continue to lurk behind ya . Let us know how goes once all the updates a re completed .
[00:13] <_Sym_> wedgie, i cant remember where
[00:13] <helohello_> Ok so I get to the login screen
[00:14] <helohello_> But now nothing is present
[00:14] <helohello_> I can still ctr alt f1
[00:14] <wedgie> _Sym_: this page mentions a way to create a bootable USB for bios updates in the section "Updating the BIOS when Winddows does not start" http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00042629   Maybe give that a look. Will probably require a windows vm or another working windows computer though
[00:14] <jpmh> _Sym_ I still think that you should just ignore the bios update anyway unless you are aware of something that it has that you need - which I very much doubt
[00:15] <Bashing-om> helohello_: And ya can log into the system from that console ?
[00:15] <wedgie> _Sym_: also that ^^ if it's not broke don't fix it
[00:16] <_Sym_> im convinced now, more than ever, that its not worth the hassle and is too dangerous
[00:16] <helohello_> Bashing-om: yes
[00:16] <_Sym_> ok thanks guys
[00:16] <_Sym_> they dont make this easy
[00:17] <_Sym_> i used to have bios that just let me put in a floppy disk with a bin file on it and update it directly from within the bios
[00:17] <_Sym_> not anymore
[00:18] <jpmh> vfw and wedgie thanks for the help, _Sym_ good luck - i'm out of here guys
[00:18] <_Sym_> and now I have this stupid tpm chip in there too
[00:19] <_Sym_> windows trusted computing chip?
[00:19] <_Sym_> meh
[00:19] <nacc> !ot | _Sym_
[00:20] <Bashing-om> helohello_: Great , then we are at a X layer issue . the susten it's sekf is in good stead . Try ' sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt autoremove ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; dpkg --configure -a ' . Then we look at any possible problems in that GUI layer .
[00:20] <genii> _Sym_: Your best bet is probably to ask them in ##windows how to accomplish this
[00:20] <_Sym_> ok
[00:22] <whallz> hi
[00:23] <whallz> why may dd not receive the info signal when i ctrl+t? instead i see ^T
[00:25] <Ben64> whallz: siginfo isn't a thing
[00:26] <whallz> how is that
[00:26] <Ben64> kill -l
[00:26] <Ben64> do you see siginfo? cause i don't
[00:27]  * haimzur8x is away (Autoaway after 30 minutes) messages will be saved *gSXc*
[00:27] <helohello_> Bashing-om: ok Logan screen back and able to login
[00:28] <helohello_> But it just hangs
[00:28] <helohello_> Oh wait
[00:29] <helohello_> After about five minutes everything popped up
[00:30] <yenclgj5nlw> Hi all! As I have already said, my PC hangs after recovery from S3 state. I have already tried the latest mainline kernel, it doesn't help much: when I use it i doesn't hang completely, but hdd io gone mad and I'm even unable to logon.
[00:30] <yenclgj5nlw> Any solutions?
[00:31] <helohello_> A bunch of system problem dialogs popped up
[00:31] <whallz> Ben64: kill -USR1 that is
[00:31] <Ben64> yeah i know
[00:31] <whallz> ty
[00:32] <Bashing-om> helohello_: Before re-booting ; what does grub think about the booting kernel ? pastebin ' ls -al /vmlinuz* initrd.img* ' .
[00:33] <Bashing-om> helohello_: typo s/b also /initrd.img* .
[00:38] <helohello_> Hmm
[00:41] <helohello_> Network is buggy
[00:42] <helohello_> Lol I can go to every site except this freenode site
[00:44] <Bashing-om> helohello_: Humm .. messed up IRC client config file ? .. got an alternate client you can try and see if that alternate connects ?
[00:45] <whallz> hi, im installing 16.04.1 alongside win 7 for dualboot
[00:45] <whallz> i got this error: bootloader install failed
[00:45] <helohello_> Its certain websites... Reddit won't load
[00:45] <whallz> when i chose a different device and click OK button it does nothing
[00:45] <helohello_> But YouTube does
[00:45] <helohello_> Ubuntu help forums no
[00:46] <whallz> anyone?
[00:46] <whallz> im installing from usb stick
[00:47] <Bashing-om> helohello_: DNS issue now > what results ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> whallz: Show the channel in a pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' see what the partitioning here is .
[00:48] <helohello_> Network unreachable
[00:48] <whallz> Bashing-om: how can i get a terminal in the installer?
[00:49] <Bashing-om> whallz: try F4 .
[00:49] <h1n1> you install first windows last u ubuntu
[00:49] <whallz> h1n1: yeah
[00:50] <whallz> Bashing-om: ctrl+alt+f4 gives a blinking _ as all other ttys
[00:50] <whallz> only f1 works and its the installer
[00:50] <whallz> f2 and on dont give me a prompt
[00:50] <Bashing-om> helohello_: "unreachable" ping'n ubuntu .. but 8.8.8.8 is good ?
[00:52] <helohello_> No both unreachable
[00:53] <Bashing-om> whallz: Sorry, do not know then .
[00:53] <whallz> helohello_: tried traceroute?
[00:54] <Bashing-om> helohello_: ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' ??
[00:56] <helohello_> that works
[00:56] <helohello_> Hmm network manager problem
[00:57] <leafybasil> Whenever I add a repo to my sources (as described in https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/v1.1/introduction/installation/ for example) I get told there is no Release file and the Packages 404s
[00:57] <Guest68115> guys how can I update the opengl version my gpu uses?, I recently installed an amd hd 7770 and glxgears info says it is using opengl 3.0 but wikipedia says it has support for 4.5
[00:57] <leafybasil> I'm confused as to why it's happening for everything I add
[00:57] <Bashing-om> helohello_: Likely .. what desktop are you using ?
[00:57] <Guest68115> give us one of said repositories, leafybasil
[00:57] <leafybasil> Guest68115: the link describes ubuntu installation for influxdb, but give me a moment and I'll paste the result
[00:58] <Guest68115> and the ubuntu version you are currently using
[00:58] <helohello_> Unity
[00:58] <leafybasil> Guest68115: the resulting line in my sources file is "deb https://repos.influxdata.com/Ubuntu yakkety stable"
[00:59] <leafybasil> Guest68115: I am using 16.10 / yakkety
[01:00] <Guest68115> and yakkety does indeed exist in their repos
[01:00] <helohello_> Hmm something ain't right... tried to reboot and its still taking forever to start up
[01:00] <leafybasil> Guest68115: I added some other repos previously and thought I'd made some error or tha they were outdated, but this one seems like it really should be...
[01:00] <helohello_> I think what I'm going to do is back up my files and fresh install
[01:01] <leafybasil> Guest68115: ahh it's the capitalisation of 'Ubuntu'
[01:01] <Bashing-om> helohello_: OK, from square 1 , pastebin ' sudo lshw -C network ' lets see what the intreface is known by and if there is a driver installed .
[01:01] <leafybasil> Guest68115: their instructions are wrong
[01:01] <leafybasil> Sorry for the false alarm
[01:01] <Guest68115> leafybasil,  are you using the code in the first box?
[01:02] <leafybasil> Guest68115: yeah the 'ubuntu' part
[01:02] <Guest68115> what other  ppa was giving you problems
[01:03] <helohello_> I can't paste in
[01:03] <helohello_> Pastebin *
[01:05] <Bashing-om> helohello_: piggy back from a USB thumb drive ? If I am to "help" I got to have some kinds of info to base a judgement on . I am not all that good !
[01:05] <helohello_> Haha I know I'm crunched for time
[01:05] <helohello_> I have to go
[01:06] <helohello_> But I'll be back on later if your around
[01:06] <helohello_> Thank you so much for getting me this far
[01:07] <Bashing-om> helohello_: K .. If not me .. others here will come to the aid of their comrad .
[01:10] <helohello_> Fixed!!!!
[01:10] <helohello_> Last minute ran Audi dhclient
[01:10] <helohello_> Sudo
[01:12] <Bashing-om> helohello_: Yep sometimes getting that new lease is a good thing .
[01:13] <benevolentdictat> guys, what's up with silverlight ... the pipelight plugin download page ...
[01:13] <benevolentdictat> Is something broken
[01:20] <Trollinator> hi
[01:21] <Guest51510> hi
[01:21] <Trollinator> is ZSH better than gnome terminal?
[01:21] <Bashing-om> benevolentdictat: show the link you are referring to . most of us do not do 'silverlight' .
[01:22] <dr_> what's good
[01:23] <benevolentdictat> Bashing-om, http://pipelight.net/cms/installation.html#section_2
[01:23] <benevolentdictat> It's broken for me. Maybe it's a DNS issue?
[01:25] <re87683> Should I use ZSH or gnome terminal?
[01:25] <Bashing-om> benevolentdictat: http://pipelight.net/ he syas he " Pipelight has been discontinued!" .
[01:25] <benevolentdictat> well that sucks
[01:26] <benevolentdictat> How am I supposed to watch Netflix on Ubuntu now?
[01:27] <benevolentdictat> Hmmm ... why can't I find google chrome when I do an apt-cache search chrome ?
[01:27] <fluvvell> What troubleshooting can I do with an Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in RRSetChanged() ? I've put the latest nvidia drivers in but get a .proc.drive.nvidia.warnings.fbdev message
[01:28] <OerHeks> chrome is not in our repos, benevolentdictat
[01:28] <fluvvell> and Error21 is a driectory: /proc/driver/nvidia/pus/0000:01:0
[01:29] <genii> benevolentdictat: Because Chrome is a proprietary product of Google
[01:29] <OerHeks> if you add the ppa from the google site, it is called google-chrome-stable
[01:29] <fluvvell> i guess the canned answer is nvidia drivers are not supported
[01:29] <re87683> I keep getting disconnected
[01:30] <re87683> hello
[01:30] <fluvvell> benevolentdictat, go to chrome.google.com for chrome, there are instructions for adding their repo if needed
[01:31] <benevolentdictat> Ok ... thanks. Working with the deb file now from the command line. For some strange reason it wouldn't install using software installer
[01:31] <fluvvell> benevolentdictat, you can use gdebi
[01:32] <Bashing-om> fluvvell: Tried purging the old nVidia driver and re-install a driver ?
[01:33] <benevolentdictat> fluvvell, dpkg worked ... weird that I had to use the command line tho ... Let's see if Chrome lets me watch Netflix now
[01:34] <benevolentdictat> wow ... that was a chore! Finally!
[01:38] <fluvvell> benevolentdictat, it appears likely
[01:38] <fluvvell> Bashing-om, thats how  I got here
[01:40] <Bashing-om> fluvvell: Ho Kay .. so what is the hardware we are working with ? pastebin - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - .
[01:42] <pantato> I have a dual boot with windows 8 and ubuntu (installed with the ubuntu installer / grub) . How do I completely remove ubuntu and grub and expand the windows partition to fit the entire hard drive?
[01:43] <pantato> http://www.howtogeek.com/141818/how-to-uninstall-a-linux-dual-boot-system-from-your-computer/ <--- is this a good guide?
[01:43] <graingert> !question
[01:44] <pantato> I have a dual boot with windows 8 and ubuntu (installed with the ubuntu installer / grub) . How do I completely remove ubuntu and grub and expand the windows partition to fit the entire hard drive? http://www.howtogeek.com/141818/how-to-uninstall-a-linux-dual-boot-system-from-your-computer/ <--- is this a good guide for this?
[01:45] <WhyyyOhWhyyy> hello
[01:45] <OerHeks> pantato, yes, but i would do the windows 8 repair disk first, then remove all non-windows paritions and expand
[01:45] <zhou> ccc
[01:50] <pantato> i ran the thing it told me too in the command prompt but i am still getting a grub rescue mode upon boot...
[01:53] <pantato> OerHeks:
[01:53] <OerHeks> i hope command prompt from that iso, anyway, that page is clear
[01:54] <pantato> yes i did exactly what it said
[01:55] <pantato> i used my original windows 8 installer usb
[01:55] <OerHeks> no clue then, maybe ##windows can help ?
[01:56] <glitchd> pantato, just got here, whats the problem?
[01:57] <Ben64> yeah, looks like a ##windows issue
[01:58] <glitchd> Ben64, OerHeks what problem is he having?
[01:58] <Ben64> windows isn't booting
[01:59] <glitchd> windows 8?
[01:59] <OerHeks> his attempt to repair his win8 install with the iso does not work, i think there must be a boot flag or bios issue
[02:00] <glitchd> hmm..
[02:00] <glitchd> are there any specific error msgs?
[02:00] <Ben64> take it to ##windows though
[02:01] <glitchd> lol not sure why he even asked a windows question in here to begin with
[02:01] <Ben64> it happens often
[02:01] <glitchd> oh im sure it does
[02:01] <pantato> i think i deleted a crucial partition is why.
[02:01] <glitchd> pantato, then delete the rest and just simply reinstall
[02:02] <pantato> yep.
[02:02] <glitchd> jbye
[02:02] <glitchd> kbye
[02:02] <glitchd> lol
[02:03] <glitchd> pantato, here is a link to some info on a non-destructive repair install https://www.winhelp.us/non-destructive-reinstall-of-windows-8-and-8-1.html
[02:04] <glitchd> pantato, btw, in the future, dont come to a linux channel asking windows questions. its highly frowned upon.
[02:05] <OerHeks> glitchd, that is not needed, he surely can ask how to undo
[02:06] <glitchd> OerHeks, i might be faster and easier for him to just do a repair install if he deleted an entire partition.
[02:06] <glitchd> OerHeks, *it
[02:06] <OerHeks> his guide looked normal so his question is valid.
[02:06] <OerHeks> http://www.howtogeek.com/141818/how-to-uninstall-a-linux-dual-boot-system-from-your-computer/
[02:07] <glitchd> omg....i didnt know he removed linux and now couldnt boot. thats an entirely different situation
[02:07] <glitchd> my bad.
[02:07] <Ben64> except that's all in windows... so it's a windows thing
[02:07] <glitchd> although, i did ask first, and gave my suggested answer based on what he replied with
[02:07] <OerHeks> yes, i would do the windows 8 repair disk first, then remove all non-windows paritions and expand
[02:07] <glitchd> yes, and yes.
[02:12] <pantato> OerHeks: i thought you meant make the disc first. Im very sleepy
[02:14] <brandon> my wireless card isn't working, what are some steps i can take to solve this?
[02:14] <brandon> i'm a first time linux user
[02:14] <glitchd> what kind of card?
[02:15] <brandon> i think intel, i remember having intel pro/set on my cmputer
[02:15] <glitchd> type lspci at command prompt and look for the network controller line and report back
[02:16] <metanovii> hi dudes, can u help me? I use ubuntu 16.04 and kde 5, after load to DE i can not return to tty(by ctrl+alt+f1), becouse keyboard in tty not work. Or may be tty freeze .
[02:16] <brandon> intel centrino 2230 n
[02:16]  * puffinz hands you a pair of glasses
[02:16] <brandon> is in the list, the rest is sata and ethernet
[02:17] <glitchd> brandon, ok, type "rfkill list" at the command line, without the ""
[02:17] <glitchd> brandon, what does it say for wireless lan?
[02:17] <brandon> wireless lan is soft blocked but not hard blocked
[02:17] <brandon> so.. my wireless switch is on?
[02:18] <brandon> but it's still disabled
[02:18] <glitchd> type ifconfig
[02:19] <brandon> glitchd, i only see ethernet
[02:19] <glitchd> iwconfig
[02:19] <glitchd> oops
[02:19] <brandon> i see it with iwconfig
[02:19] <kostkon> brandon, try:  rfkill unblock all
[02:19] <glitchd> what is it called in iwconfig
[02:20] <brandon> ok, i see it in the top panel now
[02:20] <brandon> thank you, so it was disabled by default?
[02:20] <brandon> is that normal?
[02:20] <glitchd> nice kostkon
[02:20] <kostkon> brandon, no
[02:21] <Gorian>   hey
[02:21] <glitchd> yo
[02:21] <brandon> ok, well thank you for the time glitchd and kostkon
[02:21] <Gorian> I'm having some issues with resolvconf adding a redundant line to resolv.conf and adding a \r to the end of it
[02:21] <glitchd> brandon, np
[02:21] <Gorian> breaking all dns resolution
[02:22] <Gorian> I've looked /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/{head,base}, /etc/network/interfaces
[02:22] <glitchd> Gorian, my knowledge of the resolv.conf is limited..
[02:22] <Gorian> I can't seem to find where resolvconf would be getting it's config from otherwise
[02:22] <Gorian> defined in /etc/network/interfaces is "nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4"
[02:23] <Gorian> yet, running resolvconf -u generates resolv.conf with "nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4\nnameserver 8.8.8.8\n\r"
[02:23] <Gorian> or just \r, either way
[02:25] <puffinz> Don't use google dns.
[02:25] <puffinz> Google is evil.
[02:25] <SonikkuAmerica> "Don't be evil..."
[02:25] <Gorian> puffinz, not the point, doesn't help, client server so it's not changing atm
[02:27] <puffinz> :D you could memorize every ip address.
[02:27] <puffinz> dns servers are so 2000 and late.
[02:28] <Ben64> puffinz: keep your irrelevant comments to yourself
[02:28] <OerHeks> not helpfull indeed
[02:29] <Umeaboy> puffinz: Just out of curiosity, what alternative do we have to DNS?
[02:29] <Ben64> Gorian: you got something else going on, resolvconf doesn't make a new resolv.conf
[02:30] <Gorian> Ben64 What do you mean? Running "resolvconf -u" does exactly that
[02:30] <Ben64> no, it doesn't
[02:31] <Gorian> Ben64, I'm watching it do it
[02:31] <Gorian> http://i.imgur.com/KN4v9qo.png
[02:31] <Ben64> thats why i said you got something else going on
[02:32] <puffinz> I have a 70's style rolodex with ip addresses and name servers. It takes awhile to get used to but it's a strong asses when dns servers go down.
[02:32] <Gorian> Ben64, I edit /etc/resolv.conf to remove the third nameserver line. Then I run "resolvconf -u", and then /etc/resolv.conf is updated. Everytime.
[02:32] <puffinz> s/asset
[02:33] <Ben64> Gorian: what os did you install
[02:33] <Gorian> I didn't install it. It's Ubuntu 16.04.1
[02:37] <Ben64> Gorian: look in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/
 I've looked /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/{head,base}, /etc/network/interfaces
[02:38] <Ben64> cool
[02:39] <Ben64> you're running something that isn't default, so... maybe ask who installed the system
[03:05] <mukluks> OerHeks: I see google have an official linux Chrome version now, should i just switch to that? [just seeking your opinion]
[03:07] <OerHeks> mukluks, chrome is more up2date indeed
[03:27] <energizer> When I try to boot, I get a black screen with a blinking _ underscore. What can I do?
[03:28] <cfhowlett> energizer, did it ever boot properly?
[03:29] <energizer> cfhowlett: Yes, it worked this morning.
[03:29] <energizer> In fact, looks like by pressing ctrl+alt+F1 I get root terminal
[03:29] <cfhowlett> energizer, guessing you did an upgrade and kernel isn't quite ready for primetime.  reboot, select an earlier ubuntu version
[03:31] <energizer> I was messing with some hardware when this happened. Is this consistent with having broken some particular component?
[03:31] <energizer> Root terminal but no gui
[03:32] <cfhowlett> energizer, easy enough to test: remove the HW and reboot.
[03:33] <energizer> I removed the cd drive i was messing with, no luck there. But it's always possible that I broke some other unspecified hardare in the meantime
[03:33] <energizer> ok I tried running with an earlier version and i get :
[03:33] <cfhowlett> that would be pretty much outside of ubuntu control ...
[03:33] <energizer> scsi host8: runtime PM tryiing to activate child device host8 but parent is not active
[03:34] <energizer> you are in emergency mode, ater logging in type journalctl -xb to view...
[03:34] <energizer> etc
[03:34] <cfhowlett> yep that is pointing to HW.  not fully configured?
[03:35] <energizer> i tried plugging in a cd drive and since unplugged it, but maybe i fried something else
[03:35] <energizer> but thats the only change i made
[03:36] <energizer> intentinoally anyway
[03:36] <energizer> "Press Enter for maintenaance or pres Ctrl-D to continue"
[03:36] <energizer> how to proceed?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> just as it says ...
[03:37] <energizer> Sorry, i mean, which option will be most helpful in diagnosing the situation
[03:37] <Sean_McG> hi all
[03:38] <energizer> pressing enter gives root shell
[03:38] <cfhowlett> see you logs.  journalctl -xb       will display
[03:39] <Ace___> exit
[03:39] <energizer> cfhowlett: ok, lots to see in the logs, what should i be looking for
[03:40] <cfhowlett> error msg's should be pretty recognizable
[03:45] <mukluks> cfhowlett: did you unplug your ssd/hd while plugging your cd drive?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> energizer, see ^^^
[03:45] <xangua> Why does Lubuntu comes with the graphical app to add and manage printers... But doesn't come with cups? Lol
[03:45] <cfhowlett> mukluks, energizer has the isse, not I
[03:46] <mukluks> oops my bad
[03:46] <mukluks> energizer: did you unplug your ssd/hd while plugging your cd drive?
[03:46] <cfhowlett> Sean_McG, ask your ubuntu question
[03:47] <nog_> I just installed OpenVPN, but can't edit the config file in /etc/ because it's read only. Please help.
[03:48] <mukluks> nog_: your VPN service provider should provide you with a ".ovpn" file which you can use to connect
[03:48] <energizer> mukluks: good thinking
[03:48] <mukluks> if you are actually trying to setup an openvpn server then you have a lot of reading to do
[03:48] <energizer> yes, apparently that is exactly what i did
[03:48] <energizer> cfhowlett:
[03:48] <nog_> I did use that, but DNS doesn't resolve once connected, and looking online, I need to edit the configuration file to include an "up script".
[03:49] <mukluks> energizer: u r welcome, that'll be twenty bux :P
[03:49] <energizer> mukluks: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ paid in full, signed and notarized
[03:54] <mukluks> nog_: do you have the file /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf ?
[03:54] <mukluks> nog_: and does it contain useful looking code and stuff?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> energizer, so you got it sorted then??
[03:55] <cfhowlett> what was the issue?
[03:56] <energizer> cfhowlett: Unplugged hdd while plugging cd
[03:56] <energizer> in particular, i think it had sata data and no power
[03:58] <nog_> mukluks, yes I do, it's installed when I did the sudo apt-get install command in terminal.
[04:00] <mukluks> nog_: try adding the following to your .ovpn file: http://pastebin.com/jU485p2f
[04:06]  * mukluks bb in 5 mins
[04:08] <mukluks> nog_: how'd it go?
[04:09] <Darkjack404[m]> Sorry people just jumping in so someone can track me down, alright nic find me bitch
[04:11] <nog_> It's working. Thanks, mukluks!
[04:11] <energizer> I've got a tougher one now.
[04:12] <energizer> When I resume from sleep, the computer doesn't resume, it just gets stuckat black screen
[04:12] <energizer> so I have to reboot, which works fine
[04:13] <energizer> 16.10
[04:13] <mukluks> nog_: <3 yw
[04:16] <mukluks> energizer: you never disconnected sata data from your hd/ssd correct?
[04:16] <mukluks> just power?
[04:18] <energizer> mukluks: that's correct for the issue before
[04:19] <mukluks> energizer: cool, was just checking the disk hadn't been moved logically
[04:19] <energizer> any thoughts about sleep/resume issue?
[04:19] <mukluks> energizer: the suspend thing will probably be something specific to your computer so you'll probably have to google it and do some research
[04:20] <energizer> ya ive found people with related problems but everyone seems to say its a kernel issue fixed in 16.10, which it evidently isnt
[04:21] <Bashing-om> Arturofm: - from another channel - please pastebin the out put of ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[04:21] <Arturofm> oki
[04:22] <Arturofm> http://pastebin.com/bmTuR2Hu
[04:23] <mukluks> 560 baby, memories
[04:24] <Arturofm> How can I quote or call someone here so they know I'm talking to them?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> Arturofm, tab complete
[04:24] <kostkon> !tab
[04:25] <Arturofm> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/bmTuR2Hu
[04:25] <Arturofm> thanks
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Arturofm: Right ,, you presently have the open source driver nouvua loaded . And the issue is that you boot to a black screen ?
[04:27] <Arturofm> yep
[04:28] <Arturofm> I thought to switch to Kubuntu but so far I like ubuntu way more :) I'd like to try to fix this so I can use KDE
[04:28] <Bashing-om> Arturofm: How about we see what results with a proprietary driver ? pastebin ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[04:29] <Arturofm> roger
[04:29] <Arturofm> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/ycid2e5J
[04:32] <Bashing-om> Arturofm: I like . now let us make sure there will be no conflicts . pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[04:33] <Arturofm> Bashing-om:  I put that on the terminal and nothing happened
[04:34] <Arturofm> Bashing-om: I wrote:  dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[04:35] <Bashing-om> Arturofm: In this case that no return is a good thing . ok run ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' and reboot to see the effect .
[04:35] <Arturofm> ok
[04:37] <Arturofm> Bashing-om: when I do the upgrade, it shows: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:39] <Arturofm> I'll reboot
[04:47] <Arturo> hello
[04:47] <Bashing-om> Arturo: Hey !
[04:48] <Arturo> Bashing-om: hi, I tried a couple of things
[04:48] <Arturo> with 1 proprietary driver and with the open sourse
[04:48] <Arturo> and none worked
[04:48] <Arturo> I didn't tried all proprietary drivers
[04:49] <Bashing-om> Arturo: Well we got to make the package manager happy . pastebin ' sudo apt upgrade '; so we see the error in context .
[04:49] <Arturo> oki
[04:49] <Arturo> lol
[04:53] <Arturo> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/bWbfJEgW
[04:54] <Bashing-om> !info kde-config-telepathy-accounts xenial
[04:57] <Bashing-om> Arturo: Pich .. where did you get "kde-config-telepathy-accounts" ?> Pastebin ' apt-cache policy kde-telepathy-minimal kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' .
[04:57] <Arturo> ok
[04:57] <vfw> Arturo: Did you run apt-get -f install ?
[04:58] <puffinz> :)
[04:59] <Arturo> vfw: I did but it shows another error, I'll post it in a sec
[04:59] <Matrixred> alguém do brasil?
[04:59] <cfhowlett> !br | Matrixred
[05:00] <Matrixred> #ubuntu-br
[05:00] <Arturo> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/iiu5WxDt
[05:01] <Arturo> vfw: http://pastebin.com/3PXAKUxe
[05:02] <Arturo> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/3PXAKUxe   and the one I pasted already: http://pastebin.com/iiu5WxDt
[05:02] <Arturo> vfw: http://pastebin.com/3PXAKUxe
[05:04] <vfw> Arturo: sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:04] <Arturo> same error: Try using -f
[05:05] <vfw> Arturo: I'm late to the conversation, how did you get to this point?  (What happened?)
[05:06] <Bashing-om> Arturo: vfw :: Let's try ' sudo apt install --reinstall kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' , See where that leads us ( conflict with google-talk ??)
[05:06] <Arturo> that I know I don't have google-talk, let me try that
[05:07] <Arturo> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:07] <vfw> Maybe purge account-plugin-google
[05:08] <Bashing-om> Arturo: As we have " /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb " let's clean up the system removing this ,deb also in that process .
[05:08] <Arturo> Bashing-om: how?
[05:09] <Arturo> I'm new to linux
[05:09] <Arturo> btw is there a way to install ubuntu with the kde pre-installed? I wouldn't mind installing it again to avoid this trouble
[05:09] <xangua> Kubuntu
[05:10] <Arturo> yeah but it's not the same
[05:10] <vfw> as........?
[05:10] <xangua> Huh
[05:10] <Bashing-om> Arturo: run ; ' sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt autoremove ' . depending here we go back to that /kde-config-telepathy-accounts .
[05:10] <Arturo> kubuntu relies on ubuntu, right? it's not the same like having the original
[05:10] <Arturo> Bashing-om: on it
[05:10] <xangua> ! Flavors
[05:11] <Bashing-om> Arturo: All the releases are the dame .. hust the DE and default installed applications differ. one can install on that base anything one desires .
[05:11] <vfw> Arturo: Well, you can install kubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <Arturo> Bashing-om: when I ran sudo apt autoremove
[05:12] <vfw> Arturo: Yea kubuntu is dame ;)
[05:12] <Arturo> it gave me the error of -f
[05:13] <Arturo> dame? or same? or damage? ^_^
[05:14] <Bashing-om> Arturo: ' sudo apt remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' I can accept that the package manager says no can do , but want to see that output in a pastebin .
[05:15] <Arturo> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/nCrqyAYz
[05:15] <vfw> Arturo: It was a feeble attempt at humor
[05:15] <Arturo> vfw: lol
[05:16] <Bashing-om> Arturo: OK .. Now what ' sudo apt install kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' .
[05:16] <kidn3ys> Hello, I'm trying to attach a second iscsi target to my ubuntu 14.04 instance but can't seem to figure out how to add a secondary set of credentials for this target/lun to the config. I've tried using iscsiadm but login fails and it doesn't look like any config gets added to the iscsid.conf. Thoughts?
[05:17] <vfw> Arturo: sudo apt-get remove kde-telepathy-minimal  kde-config-telepathy-accounts
[05:17] <xangua> I don't know what you did (installed Ubuntu, then KDE, then attempt to remove everything Ubuntu unity related?) but installing kubuntu takes a half hour, maybe less
[05:17] <i-make-robots> hi!  I just did a release upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS.  I fixed the mysql problems, now I'm stuck on getting SSL working again.  how do?
[05:17] <i-make-robots> i don't see anything in /var/log that screams ssl.
[05:17] <Arturo> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/gfBWL6yD
[05:18] <i-make-robots> or opendkim.  i completely forget how it all works.
[05:18] <puffinz> whats the tiger to start gdm at boot? is it service gdm start? or is that false? how do i add it to systemd?
[05:18] <puffinz> s/trigger
[05:19] <Sir_Andrei> Hi
[05:19] <Sir_Andrei> Ppl, im having a problem with ethernet connection
[05:19] <Sir_Andrei> Well, i'm connected now through an usb wifi card
[05:19] <Bashing-om> ar Odd ! "  error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb " That file should no longer exist if ya '"cleaned" the system . hummm .
[05:19] <Sir_Andrei> I've installed Ubuntu in this PC, but im having issues with ethernet, as i said
[05:20] <vfw> i-make-robots: You did what?
[05:20] <metanovii> can u help me? Some times i have stuned tty. Ubuntu 16.04, intel gpu
[05:20] <Sir_Andrei> One moment, ill post a log of my problem
[05:20] <vfw> i-make-robots: You mean you upgraded 12.04 to 14.04?
[05:20] <Sir_Andrei> http://hastebin.com/segatefako.pl
[05:21] <Sir_Andrei> My kernel is 4.4.0-53-generic
[05:22] <Sir_Andrei> I'm using Lubuntu 16.04.1 amd64
[05:22] <Bashing-om> Arturo: ^^ .. run ' sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ; sudo apt install kde-config-telepathy-accounts  ' .
[05:23] <Sir_Andrei> My lspci results
[05:23] <Sir_Andrei> http://hastebin.com/puxuxadiza.css
[05:24] <Arturo> Bashing-om: lol the second command returned with the same error code (1) ^_^ bro honestly If you want I can run the installation again, I don't have anything yet
[05:24] <Sir_Andrei> 00:07.0 Bridge [0680]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet [10de:03ef] (rev a2)
[05:24] <Sir_Andrei> Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation 939NF6G-VSTA Board [1849:03ef]
[05:24] <Sir_Andrei> Kernel driver in use: forcedeth
[05:24] <Sir_Andrei> But is failing :7
[05:25] <Sir_Andrei> It's a fresh install
[05:25] <Bashing-om> Arturo: As xangua advised .. will be faster to do a fresh install . but that is up to you .
[05:25] <Arturo> Bashing-om: I'm just trying to set up this quick to set up the dev tools and use my vacations to learn more about java but this is taking me forever
[05:25] <Arturo> Bashing-om: I'll do that then, thank you veryy much for your felp
[05:26] <Arturo> good night guys
[05:26] <Sir_Andrei> bay Arturo
[05:28] <Sir_Andrei> Well, so....
[05:35] <Sir_Andrei> I have to reboot, one moment
[05:38] <Sir_Andrei> Im back
[05:41] <esokia> hi all
[05:41] <esokia> need a git channel
[05:41] <cfhowlett> ?  this is the ubuntu support channel
[05:42] <Bashing-om> Sir_Andrei: forcedeth driver ; See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003297 . for the solution .
[05:43] <Sir_Andrei> Let's see
[05:45] <Bashing-om> Sir_Andrei: Boils down to try ' echo "options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/forcedeth.conf ' .
[05:46] <Sir_Andrei> In the Tobías comment?
[05:47] <Sir_Andrei> :O, yes, it crashes during reboots
[05:47] <Sir_Andrei> It's..., well, i've installed Ubuntu in a lot of PCs and it's the first time with this problem
[05:47] <Sir_Andrei> Let's try
[05:50] <Bashing-om> Sir_Andrei: I Have no hearburn to also rebuild the image file ' sudo update-initramfs -u ' Might do some good .
[05:55] <Sir_Andrei> FUCK!, it works!
[05:55] <Sir_Andrei> Bashing-om: U deserve a fucking beer!
[05:58] <Bashing-om> Sir_Andrei: Been there, done that .. just passing it on along . :)
[06:02] <helohello> so Im setting up a fresh install on a ssd
[06:03] <helohello> is there a way to automate transfering all the programs i have installed on my other ubuntu instalation?
[06:05] <Flannel> !clone | helohello
[06:05] <emejing> try to using aptoncd
[06:07] <plytro> helohello: the programs from apt, yes, the settings, not as easily
[06:07] <helohello> Flannel: my other installation is fucked up, does apt-clone just do programs?
[06:07] <helohello> target programs, I should say
[06:07] <Flannel> helohello: Yes.  It just does programs, and I believe you can tweak the list (easily) too before letting it loose on the other machine.
[06:08] <helohello> ok cool
[06:08] <helohello> I don't have much nivested cos I can just wipe this new drive and start over
[06:08] <helohello> I'll try apt-clone
[06:08] <helohello> thanks! will report back
[06:09] <pavan> any body python expert
[06:09] <pavan> serial communication
[06:09] <wafflejock> pavan, not really the right channel maybe try #python or ##programming
[06:10] <pavan> thanks
[06:10] <wafflejock> pavan, no prob ubuntu support channel here if you have problems with serial permissions/access in ubuntu then come back :)
[07:01] <tychotithonus> is there a way to use sources.list mirror: syntax against a local list of mirrors?
[07:02] <tychotithonus> as in, served up from the local filesystem rather than over http?
[07:03] <tychotithonus> asking because of: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1647467
[07:05] <tychotithonus> preferring https anyway (despite InRelease) would be helpful, imo
[07:06] <tychotithonus> but really, my question (without jumping to solutions) should be: what's the best way to only use https mirrors?
[07:07] <tychotithonus> naively, i simply scripted a check of all mirrors in mirrors.txt that cleanly support https (without self-signed, cert mismatch, etc.)
[07:07] <tychotithonus> so now i have a de-facto list of https mirrors, and i wanted to use this list instead of the centralized mirrors.txt
[07:29] <Rihanna> hello
[07:37] <reisio> I miss Rihanna
[07:39] <tychotithonus> she's still here in spirit
[07:40] <reisio> snow has finished eating the sidewalk and patio
[07:45] <ben-nabiy> I am having some strange ssh issues. I cannot ssh directly to a computer on the same subnet, but if I remote to a different computer, then I can ssh to the lan through the router pinholes
[07:47] <tychotithonus> ben-nabiy: using ufw? does the connection attempt time out, or immediately rject? anything in the logs on the target system?
[07:48] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, http://pastebin.com/fvtQtxU0
[07:48] <ben-nabiy> err
[07:48] <ubuntu679> im dual booting ubuntu and windows and have 3 separate drives.  What file system should i format my storage into if i don't want windows to have access to the storage drive?
[07:48] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[07:49] <cfhowlett> ubuntu679, ext4 i.e. ubuntu default
[07:49] <netcrime> What is my options to use Skpye on Ubuntu 16.04 ? I tryed using Skype Online (Web based) but options Voice Call and Video Call is inactive..
[07:49] <ubuntu679> cfhowlett: thanks!  i've generally used ext4 for all linux purposes but this is my first time installing on a desktop
[07:49] <tychotithonus> ben-nabiy: is that the log message from the target system, or from the source system?
[07:50] <ben-nabiy> but if I ssh outside the lan, and then ssh back to the lan through the router, I can access them
[07:50] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, source
[07:50] <ubuntu679> is ext4 stable compared to ntfs?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> exponentially more stalbe
[07:50] <cfhowlett> stable
[07:50] <ubuntu679> awesome
[07:50] <ubuntu679> thanks
[07:50] <ubuntu679> i'm on a livedisk right now :D
[07:50] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:51] <tychotithonus> ben-nabiy: what about the logs on the target system? and is that target system using ufw?
[07:52] <tychotithonus> and it sounds like you're doing inbound NAT. is it possible that you're listening on a non-standard port, and the router is translating it for you?
[07:52] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, the actual ssh is on standard ports, the router is doing NAT and taking nonstandard ports and translating
[07:53] <ben-nabiy> but on the lan, no need for non standard ports
[07:53] <tychotithonus> ok, that makes sense
[07:53] <tychotithonus> just trying to rule things out
[07:53] <tychotithonus> so are you using ufw, or anything else that would acl/filter based on source IP (like tcpwrappers/hosts.allow)?
[07:53] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, yup. Understood. I am too
[07:54] <ubuntu679> thanks for the help as always guys!
[07:54] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, no hosts.allow /deny
[07:54] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, no tcpwrappers or ufw
[07:54] <tychotithonus> normally, that "connection reset by peer" would have a corresponding log entry of some kind - auth log or something.
[07:55] <iamunderstand> hey all, does lubuntu fall under "official flavours" of ubuntu or am i in the wrong place?
[07:55] <EriC^^> iamunderstand: yes
[07:55] <cfhowlett> !flavors | iamunderstand
[07:55] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, WARNING **: Couldn't get presence status: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[07:55] <EriC^^> it's an official flavor
[07:56] <tychotithonus> ben-nabiy: that seems kinda unrelated. does it show up in the logs every time you make an ssh attempt?
[07:56] <ben-nabiy> gnome-session-binary[3333]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[07:56] <iamunderstand> good to know, anybody able to help a newbie troubleshoot his bluetooth?
[08:00] <ben-nabiy> sshd[2942]: error: Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket.
[08:00] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, ^ in auth.log
[08:00] <tychotithonus> ben-nabiy: those are display-related and unrelated, i think
[08:01] <tychotithonus> ben-nabiy: gotta sleep now, but "connection reset by peer" implies deliberate refusal - like sshd is mad about file permissions, or cipher mismatch, or stuff like that. all of which would show up in the ssh-specific logs.
[08:02] <ben-nabiy> tychotithonus, which I cannot find evidence of what is happening. will look more
[08:02] <ben-nabiy> thank you
[08:02] <tychotithonus> you could try starting up sshd on an alternate port, forced into the foreground, with verbosity cranked up (see man page) to watch it
[08:02] <tychotithonus> sorry i wasn't more help - good luck
[08:16] <jstecher1> wazz: mysql sur l'ip 10.41.0.15 c'est bien en mode dev?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !fr | JStoker
[08:17] <kabloom> welcome
[08:19] <romine> what is the best chat channel
[08:19] <cfhowlett> romine, this is ubuntu tech support.  ask your ubuntu questions
[08:23] <pronet> Has anybody tried the Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS. If so is it stable??
[08:23] <cfhowlett> pronet, pretty sure a few million of us have tried it.  yes, it's stable
[08:24] <pronet> minimal specs.
[08:24] <pronet> required??
[08:31] <pseudonymous> pronet: it's very difficult to say. Linux runs on pretty much *anything* - the differentiator in regards to resources needed is really only the top layer - that is, your desktop environment. Unity, Gnome 3, KDE all require more than say XFCE or Mate. That said, if the computer ran any copy of windows newer than XP you'll be fine for sure.
[08:32] <cfhowlett> "you'll be fine" = ubuntu will "technically" run on many configurations but ... it will run better on some than others.  if your hardware is low/old specification I highly recommend you try first try lubuntu or xubuntu.
[08:33] <pseudonymous> pronet: and on that note. Unless you have *very* specific requirements or *really* know why, you should use 16.04 (also an LTS) instead. You really won't win anything performance-wise from running an older copy of Ubuntu.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> this!  ^^^
[08:34] <asif> hello
[08:36] <pseudonymous> I don't suppose anyone's got or seen a quick 'n dirty guide to just remapping the keyboard to include a hyper key somewhere. Right ? I have to go forth and figure out how to create a new layout ?
[08:42] <pronet> Thnks guys. will look into it,
[08:43] <EriC^^> pseudonymous: xmodmap
[08:43] <pseudonymous> EriC^^: hasn't that ceased to work in favour of xkb ? I used to use xmodmap but remember having issues with that in newer ubuntu releases
[08:44] <EriC^^> pseudonymous: still works afaik
[08:45] <mukluks> um anyone got a quick and dirty way to get dwarf fortress up and running on ubuntu-16.10? last i tried it had some libc/libsdl/libpng conflicts or something
[08:45] <EriC^^> xmodmap -e "keycode <keycode>=Super_L"
[08:45] <EriC^^> grab the keycode from "xev"
[08:46] <ubuntu243> hi all - fresh install; should i encrypt root?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> you can.  depends completely on your tinfoil hat index
[08:46] <mukluks> ubuntu243: if you can afford the io overhead, definitely
[08:47] <mukluks> if you have an SSD and aren't manipulating terabytes of video footage per day, i'd recommend it
[08:47] <ubuntu243> im reading that data recovery could be harder if i encrypt
[08:48] <ubuntu243> is that the case even in case i boot through a usb?
[08:48] <ubuntu243> ...
[08:48] <ubuntu243> is that the case even if i boot through a usb?
[08:49] <mukluks> well if you lose your disk encryption key or passphrase, then yes, data recovery will be very difficult, no matter what you boot from
[08:49] <pseudonymous> Eric^^: cool, I'll look into that then :)
[08:49] <firc1f655e60> join #FFLM
[08:49] <ubuntu243> ok so as long as i know the password i'll be ok then
[08:50] <mukluks> yup - back up anything important, as always
[08:50] <ubuntu243> sweet thanks
[08:58] <ubuntu243> how much of a hit can i expect for encrypting home
[08:58] <ubuntu243> i'm on ssd for root and 7.2k rpm for home
[08:58] <Ben64> depends more on cpu
[08:58] <ubuntu243> ah
[08:58] <ImUs3r> iptables -t filter -L
[08:58] <ImUs3r> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ip_tables': Operation not permitted <— what’s wrong?
[08:59] <devnull84> permissions
[08:59] <devnull84> hook a sudo infront
[08:59] <ImUs3r> thanks devnull84 :)
[08:59] <devnull84> thick
[08:59] <devnull84> no probs
[09:07] <ImUs3r> man iptables  <—— space bar <——> ?
[09:08] <ImUs3r> help me
[09:09] <Ben64> ImUs3r: ask a question that makes sense
[09:09] <ImUs3r> what is reverse of space bar at man page?
[09:09] <Ben64> what
[09:10] <devnull84> shame man
[09:10] <ImUs3r> pressing space bar will show next page in man page, how can i see previous page?
[09:10] <devnull84> hes learning
[09:10] <Ben64> page up
[09:10] <devnull84> page up or page down
[09:10] <devnull84> or man the page piping with more
[09:10] <ImUs3r> my keyboard don’t have page up.
[09:10] <Ben64> get a better keyboard?
[09:11] <ImUs3r> :|
[09:11] <ImUs3r> i have no money
[09:11] <devnull84> man iptables
[09:11] <Ben64> press the up arrow until you get to where you want
[09:11] <devnull84> with space bar you you can page through
[09:11] <devnull84> or alternatiely, you can check man pages for iptables online
[09:11] <devnull84> which is the same thing
[09:11] <devnull84> unless you dont have a gui
[09:12] <ImUs3r> arrow key is too slow
[09:12] <ImUs3r> :|
[09:12] <devnull84> hold shift
[09:12] <devnull84> and then use arrow key
[09:12] <devnull84> it will page
[09:12] <devnull84> might be specific to mac tho :P
[09:12] <devnull84> dont know what system you on
[09:13] <Ben64> probably ubuntu
[09:13] <ImUs3r> nothing happend when i press shift + arrow key
[09:13] <devnull84> space bar should be sufficient for scrolling through man pages
[09:19] <Kingsy> Since I upgraded my OS to 16.10 from 16.04 a couple of my applications have really bad performance graphically. Scrolling up and down on them causes loads of screen tearing and its jumpy. Has someone seen this before? 99% of applications are good.
[09:22] <ImUs3r> prot opt source   —> opt means option and source is source ip then what is prot?
[09:25] <ImUs3r> No one is here?
[09:26] <wyoung> ImUs3r: I am here
[09:26] <ImUs3r> prot opt source  —> opt means option and source is source ip then what is prot?
[09:26] <ImUs3r> wyoung:
[09:26] <wyoung> ImUs3r: werd
[09:27] <ImUs3r> wyoung: ?
[09:28] <wyoung> ImUs3r: protocol
[09:28] <ImUs3r> oh good thanks
[09:28] <wyoung> <3
[09:28] <ImUs3r> why 0.0.0.0/0 means all?
[09:28] <wyoung> ImUs3r: It's a maths thing
[09:29] <ImUs3r> ?
[09:29] <ImUs3r> i don’t understand it
[09:29] <wyoung> because 0.0.0.0 with a 0 mask means everything!
[09:29] <wyoung> within the 2^32 address space
[09:30] <ImUs3r> i can’t understand it
[09:30] <ImUs3r> :(
[09:30] <wyoung> ImUs3r: that's cool
[09:30] <wyoung> ImUs3r: you don't really need to know it
[09:31] <ImUs3r> oh really thanks :)
[09:31] <wyoung> :P
[09:32] <wyoung> Learning firstaid, for example, is a better skill to have then knowing anything about IP addresses :)
[09:32] <ImUs3r> :)
[09:33] <wyoung> ImUs3r: but if you need some assistance then let me know some more about the issue you are having
[09:33] <ImUs3r> ok :)
[09:40] <tarkus_> How to install PostgreSQL 9.6.1 on Ubuntu 16.10?
[09:40] <wyoung> tarkus_: sudo apt-get install postgresql
[09:40] <tarkus_> wyoung doesn't it install 9.5?
[09:40] <devnull84> update your repo's for specific versions
[09:40] <devnull84> first
[09:40] <devnull84> postgresql*
[09:41] <wyoung> tarkus_: no idea, but if you add backports or another repo into /etc/apt/sources.list that has that version then it will work
[09:41] <ImUs3r> iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT   <—— this is correct? because dport must be sport?
[09:42] <andrewebdev> Morning. I ran updates on my machine this morning but got the following error;
[09:42] <andrewebdev> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[09:42] <andrewebdev>  apt-utils : Depends: apt (= 1.3.1) but 1.3.2ubuntu0.1 is installed
[09:42] <ImUs3r> wyoung: help me
[09:43]  * wyoung throws ImUs3r a life jacket
[09:44] <ImUs3r> i think that —sport is correct instead of dport because there is a INPUT
[09:44] <ImUs3r> wyoung:
[09:44] <wyoung> ImUs3r: you are doing firewall stuff hey
[09:45] <wyoung> ImUs3r: wrong, — != --
[09:45] <wyoung> ImUs3r: you can't use UTF-8 / UTF-16 chars in it
[09:47] <wyoung> ImUs3r: replace — with --
[09:47] <ImUs3r> —
[09:47] <ImUs3r> - -
[09:47] <trenta> hi
[09:47] <wyoung> trenta: hihi
[09:48] <trenta> how r u
[09:48] <wyoung> trenta: been better
[09:57] <theparadoxer02> Can we add kali tools in ubuntu?
[10:01] <guardianL_> hack the planet
[10:05] <Nomiddles> Someone has problems with remmina fullscreen? Like top bar hidden, no autoscroll left-right  side
[10:05] <Nomiddles> I'm using ubuntu-gnome 16.10
[10:10] <ragbak> Good morning
[10:17] <wyoung> ragbak: Good 'morrow!
[10:47] <multifractal> I'm trying to get this http://registry.gimp.org/node/27986 GIMP plugni to work under 16.04. I pasted all files (a couple of executables and some .py scripts) into ~/.gimp-2.8/plug-ins/ and made them all executabel with chmod +x
[10:47] <multifractal> But the plugin doesn't appear in the GIMP menu
[10:50] <madsj> I've tried to do dd bs=4M if=raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb, but "/home" in the root-filesystem still has data from previously
[10:52] <BunicuEnCeruri> do you know a very very dark ubuntu wallpaper?
[10:53] <BunicuEnCeruri> very close to black
[10:53] <bazhang> !themes | BunicuEnCeruri
[10:53] <BunicuEnCeruri> bazhang, only the wallpaer
[10:53] <bazhang> have a look at those sites BunicuEnCeruri
[10:53] <bazhang> then have a look around BunicuEnCeruri we wont do that for you
[10:53] <BunicuEnCeruri> bazhang, i googled already and i couldnt find smth really dark, almost full black
[10:53] <bazhang> check deviant art BunicuEnCeruri
[10:54] <BunicuEnCeruri> bazhang, thanks for reminding me
[11:08] <pronet> Just got there, found some dope wallpapers.    http://www.deviantart.com/art/Lit-Blue-Wallpaper-123406467
[11:18] <froike> hi, there is any way to stop apache2 using systemctl?
[11:19] <froike> disable*
[11:20] <pronet> yeah,  pkill the service.
[11:21] <ppf> froike: systemctl disable apache2
[11:28] <pronet> ppf : ^^^
[11:28] <lesrei> ^.^
[11:29] <ppf> pronet: ?
[11:30] <pronet> ppf: that also works.. But much preferd ( pkill service )
[11:30] <ppf> pronet: certainly not?
[11:30] <ppf> it also doesn't do what froike asked
[11:31] <ppf> but, more to the point: no, never ever do that
[11:31] <ppf> (exceptions prove the rule)
[11:32] <pronet> ppf: .. i left out the systemctl part.
[11:34] <ppf> doesn/t matter
[11:34] <sruli> does anyone know a graphics card for min 3 independent monitors which works well on linux? (not for gaming dont need high end ones)
[11:35] <ppf> sruli: today, all of them
[11:36] <ppf> amd drivers are even open source, so yay amd
[11:36] <ppf> then again, nvidia drivers are (subjectively) less broken on average, so yay nvidia
[11:36] <sruli> thats great, i just happen to see on this channel many times people needing support for graphics card...
[11:37] <Ben64> i don't think every card supports it though
[11:38] <ppf> yeah you need a card with 3 outlets of course
[11:38] <sruli> obviously ;-)
[11:38] <sruli> nevidia or amd? which should i go for?
[11:38] <Ben64> that might not be enough still
[11:38] <Ben64> depending on monitors and things
[11:38] <ppf> sruli: most of those people did something stupid and are facing the consequences
[11:38] <ppf> yeah you should make sure that you have the right kind of ports or adapters available
[11:38] <sruli> Ben64:  what should i be looking for?
[11:39] <Ben64> that's why i didn't answer at first, because it's complicated
[11:39] <ppf> i prefer nvidia cards
[11:39] <ppf> i'm a cuda programmer, though
[11:39] <sruli> cuda?
[11:39] <Ben64> figure out what monitors you want to run first
[11:39] <ppf> the driver thing makes this choice ethically questionable, though :)
[11:41] <sruli> if amd works fine, i'll support the open source.. its not for gaming so dont need high end
[11:41] <Ben64> yeah there's the new amd driver in the kernel
[11:42] <ppf> best to just pick a card, and then check user reports if there's a dealbreaker
[11:43] <peter__132341234> hi everyone
[11:43] <jhonnyBeGood> resql-br
[11:51] <multifractal> I installed jdk 8 via apt-get http://askubuntu.com/questions/464755/how-to-install-openjdk-8-on-14-04-lts but where is it installed to?
[11:51] <multifractal> I need to locate it for my java ida
[11:51] <multifractal> *ide
[11:53] <ppf> multifractal: dpkg -L openjdk-8-jdk
[11:57] <aruns> Folks, Everytime I install or remove/ purge something, I get this message on terminal for ntop >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23633195/  > FYI, I tried sudo apt-get remove ntop , apt-get purge --force flag and few other options, there is no luck as of yet. Kindly suggest solutions to get rid of this.
[11:58] <ppf> aruns: apt-get install --reinstall ntop
[11:59] <ppf> if that doesn't help, throw in a -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss"
[12:01] <aruns> ppf, No success with reinstall command
[12:01] <ppf> paste please?
[12:02] <aruns> ppf, reinstall paste >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23633217/
[12:03] <ppf> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:05] <Kingsy> Since I upgraded my OS to 16.10 from 16.04 a couple of my applications have really bad performance graphically. Scrolling up and down on them causes loads of screen tearing and its jumpy. Has someone seen this before? 99% of applications are good.
[12:06] <aruns> ppf, sudo dpkg --configure -a >> it shows nothing, no output
[12:06] <ppf> did you try with the confmiss option already?
[12:07] <Ben64> aruns: dpkg -l | grep ntop
[12:08] <ubuntu943> Hi
[12:08] <ubuntu943> Where is ubuntu dev channelö?
[12:09] <aruns> Ben64, ppf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23633234/
[12:09] <ppf> #ubuntu-devel
[12:10] <Ben64> aruns: try "sudo dpkg --force-all -P ntop"
[12:18] <thiras> hello
[12:18] <thiras> is there any way to get 32bit nvidia drivers at the same time on the system?
[12:18] <thiras> skype returns libgl1.so error which is 32bit
[12:20] <yisu> OLZ
[12:20] <yisu> OLA
[12:20] <yisu> TOMASSSS
[12:21] <yisu> EII
[12:21] <Drvanon> Hi I installed Ubuntu server 16.04 from USB. Internet (wlan0 and eth0 both) don't work. When I start in recovery mode and choose the network option it does work.
[12:24] <ppf> Drvanon: how does "don't work" look like
[12:25] <Drvanon> Ifconfig only shows lo
[12:25] <ppf> ifconfig -a
[12:26] <jojo8000> hello
[12:27] <rommel> Drvanon, do you know the drivers needed for the devices and are they available.. ie can you modprobe them
[12:27] <Drvanon> ppf, it now shows enp5s0f5, lo and wlp7s0
[12:27] <ppf> there are your interfaces, they're just down
[12:27] <rommel> then they are loaded
[12:28] <rommel> why then are they not brought up automatically
[12:28] <ppf> bring them up with ip link set dev <interface> up
[12:28] <ppf> configure them with ip
[12:28] <ppf> or: configure them properly in /etc/interfaces
[12:29] <ppf> or: use networkmanager
[12:29] <Drvanon> ppf I did sudo  ifconfig enp5s0f5 up
[12:29] <Drvanon> Still no internet
[12:29] <ppf> yes, you need to configure it
[12:29] <ppf> what i said above
[12:30] <Drvanon> I will install networkmanager
[12:31] <Drvanon> Or if you would like to, you can learn me to configure it correctly
[12:31] <ppf> you can learn that yourself by reading man interfaces
[12:31] <Drvanon> That will be fun
[12:32] <Drvanon> I will try that first
[12:32] <ppf> those options are exclusive, you can use either nm or /etc/interfaces, not both
[12:33] <Drvanon> I will try interfaces first. It sounds like I will learn more.
[12:33] <rommel> is ubuntu server cli or does t have a gui interface
[12:33] <Drvanon> Server cli
[12:33] <rommel> ah
[12:33] <rommel> what was the footprint for your install
[12:34] <Drvanon> Footprint?
[12:34] <rommel> disk usage
[12:34] <Drvanon> I do not know how to find this information.
[12:35] <rommel> its ok i was just curious
 is ubuntu server cli or does t have a gui interface <== not by default, so you can install one
[12:36] <ikevin> in other case, you can execute graphical tools using ssh -X
[12:36] <Drvanon> That might be a good idea
[12:36] <ikevin> like installing firefox on the server and on other machin using: ssh -X user@server_ip firefox
[12:41] <sruli> ppf: the cheapest card i found is AMD Sapphire Radeon RX 460 Nitro, can i take it at face value that it will work on ubuntu?
[12:43] <ppf> for a reliable answer, ask the vendor
[12:47] <sruli> ppf: amd have drivers for it on their site..  is that enough to rely on?
[12:48] <ppf> is i said it will likely work. for anything more definite, ask the vendor
[12:48] <sruli> i bet u the vendor dont have a clue about linux
[13:06] <sypher> sruli: Yeah, a cursory Googling would have found this. http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[13:07] <sruli> sypher: thats the page i was refring too, thanks
[13:09] <ioria> sruli, "This driver only supports AMD Radeon RX 480, R9 Fury X, R9 Fury, R9 Nano, R9 M395X, R9 380X, R9 380, R9 285"
[13:11] <sypher> The page I linked to has the following in its compatibility matrix: "Radeon™ RX 460 Graphics"
[13:11] <sruli> ioria: if you go further down the page "The AMDGPU-Pro Driver is compatible with the following AMD pr​​oducts." which lists the rx 460
[13:12] <sypher> ioria: Matter of fact, I'm not even seeing that text on the page I linked to.
[13:12] <wonderfulfalcon> can i remove the watermark on the login screen?
[13:12] <ioria> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3090213/linux/amd-catches-up-its-new-linux-graphics-driver-already-supports-the-radeon-rx-480.html
[13:13] <ioria> sypher, ^
[13:13] <ray_> lut
[13:14] <sypher> Not trying to be a jerk, but why do I care about a PCWorld article from July, when I linked directly to the vendor's compatibility listing?
[13:14] <wonderfulfalcon> m using ubuntu 16.04LTS
[13:17] <sypher> sruli: The vendor indicates compatibility with your hardware, so that's the best you can hope for.
[13:22] <Walnutbeard_> hello
[13:23] <Walnutbeard_> if i give my laptop specs would u help which ubuntu version runs without driver issues ?
[13:23] <sypher> Walnutbeard_: Run the latest version, and if you encounter driver issues, work to resolve them.
[13:23] <sypher> Walnutbeard_: By latest version, I mean latest LTS, unless you have a reason to use something newer.
[13:24] <Walnutbeard_> but its old laptop i am not sure i get additional drivers especially gpu bothers my mind .
[13:24] <Walnutbeard_> TOSHIBA Satellite L655 Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 6144MB RAM ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5145
[13:25] <sypher> Gonna be honest, we're not here to do the homework on your hardware.
[13:26] <sypher> If you have a specific functional issue, then sure, but basic compatibility research is your responsibility.
[13:26] <cfhowlett> Walnutbeard_, OR - I know it's crazy - but here's the xubuntu download link.  So download the .iso, make a bootable USB, boot it up and test for yourself maybe.
[13:27] <sypher> ^ Research like that!
[13:28] <Walnutbeard_> well i tried Ubuntu 16.10 and 14.10 couldnt see additional gpu driver should u download every version and test each ?
[13:28] <sruli> pff: Ben64: sypher: ioria: thanks for all your help been wanting to upgrade my twin display to triple for years and held off as was worried about drivers
[13:29] <FManTX> hi
[13:29] <ioria> sruli, i'am worried too when it comes to Amd
[13:30] <sruli> ioria: the reason i went for amd was opensource drivers... got to support what you preach ;-)
[13:32] <Kingsy> Since I upgraded my OS to 16.10 from 16.04 a couple of my applications have really bad performance graphically. Scrolling up and down on them causes loads of screen tearing and its jumpy. Has someone seen this before? 99% of applications are good.
[13:33] <Kingsy> not much info about it on google.
[13:33] <odfhw5bv9s> Hi all!
[13:33] <odfhw5bv9s> How to enable app-armor?
[13:33] <sruli> Walnutbeard_: my experience with toshiba & linux is not very good, it works but not best...
[13:34] <ppf> odfhw5bv9s: it's enabled by default
[13:34] <odfhw5bv9s> it seems it is not
[13:34] <pavan> in ubuntu 16.06i install mac theme which is supported in 12.04
[13:35] <Kingsy> could it be a driver or soemthing that I might be missing that would cause this in a few cases?
[13:35] <Walnutbeard_> well i tried linux mint and different ubuntu versions but couldnt get additional driver support for gpu  thats the only reason i am usin 7
[13:35] <odfhw5bv9s> ppf:
[13:35] <odfhw5bv9s> apparmor module is loaded.
[13:35] <odfhw5bv9s> apparmor filesystem is not mounted.
[13:35] <cfhowlett> pavan,  no
[13:36] <pavan> any other option
[13:38] <aruns> Ben64, ppf : Guys any hint with this >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23633234/
[13:42] <ppf> aruns: did you run the reinstall command?
[13:42] <aruns> yes
[13:42] <ppf> with missing configs?
[13:42] <mateusz_> hi there can any1 help me with sshpass and rsyn ? i running this command sshpass -p 'pass' rsync --progress -avz ./ -e ssh user@beta.host.com:~/web/ but what i get is "Host key verification failed." i know about -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no but dont know where to put it to make it works :/
[13:43] <aruns> ppf, No not with missing configs
[13:43] <ppf> then do so
[13:44] <aruns> I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall ntop
[13:44] <ppf> yes. run the other command that i told you
[13:45] <aruns> can you repeat the command again please?
[13:45] <ppf> scroll up?
[13:46] <ioria> rF = removed - half configured , i guess
[13:48] <aruns> {<sruli> ppf: the cheapest card i found is AMD Sapphire Radeon RX 460 Nitro, can i take it at face value that it will work on ubuntu?} Last able to reach till here only, unable to dig up, scroll bar is not going up? can you repeat again.
[13:49] <ppf> sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" install --reinstall
[13:50] <codfection> why ubuntu is purple >
[13:50] <ppf> blue was taken
[13:50] <cfhowlett> codfection, because it is.
[13:50] <codfection> pink?
[13:51] <aruns> ppf,  sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" install --reinstall see output >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23633550/
[13:51] <codfection> purple looks a bit odd in office environments
[13:51] <cfhowlett> codfection, do you have an actual ubuntu tech question?  otherwise chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:51] <ikonia> codfection: just change the colour scheme to one you like, it's all customizable
[13:52] <codfection> cfhowlett, they are not knowledgeable people thats why I ask here
[13:52] <ikonia> codfection: yes they are
[13:52] <ikonia> codfection: it's a social channel, you can ask in both, but now you have the answer.
[13:52] <vfw> mateusz_: Setup ssh key for passwordless login. ssh-keygen -t rsa (copy code from client's ~/.ssh/is_rsa-pub to server's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys)
[13:53] <codfection> offtopic is full of hillary and trump, I dont care about politics. sorry I just care about myself
[13:53] <codfection> thanks ikonia for the answer
[13:55] <Guest99297> does anyone know about the amdgpu drivers? I know the -pro variant only supports a handful of devices and that it doesn't even support 16.10 yet, is this also the case with the open source amdgpu driver? I can't find info on this
[13:56] <sruli> aruns: was looking for a card that supports 3 independent displays
[13:56] <mateusz_> vfw: i can do this, but i will have soo many authorized keys than ( environment from where i need to push via rsync is a new docker container each time i push some code to repo )
[13:57] <codfection> is Dell XPS 15 supported by Ubuntu and what about Razer Blade Pro and Macbook? Asking for someone please
[13:57] <geirha> so copy the key to the container?
[13:57] <sruli> Guest99297: just ordered a amd card.. will know in a few days...
[13:58] <ubuntu-mate> kk
[13:58] <Guest99297> well, our situation isn't the same as im using a GCN 1.0 card, I'd assme if you are buying a recent card you'd be supported
[13:58] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[13:58] <sruli> codfection: linux usually works out the box on Dell, many people use linux on mac book pro (inc linus himself)
[13:59] <codfection> sruli, he uses macbook air 11". I wonder how he can code in 11 inch screen
[13:59] <Guest99297> I'm currently using oibaf ppa and I assume this is the reason why ubuntu-drivers doesn't list anything for the card, does anyone know what component is in charge of opengl support?
[13:59] <ikonia> Guest99297: what component ?
[13:59] <sruli> Guest99297: correct, cant help u any futher, sorru
[14:00] <Guest99297> what package of all things related to the gpu
[14:00] <sruli> codfection: 1 line at a time ;-) . dualboot mac and ubuntu on macbook pro is on my todo list.. maybe sometime in next 3-4 months
[14:01] <Guest99297> xorg, mesa, libdrm, llvm,etc....
[14:01] <codfection> sruli, which macbook are you getting my mate
[14:02] <codfection> isn't OS X superior to ubuntu? sruli. It runs Photoshop, MS Office, and many other programs.. plus its a true UNIX underneath. and more stable and fast
[14:02] <ikonia> codfection: no
[14:02] <ikonia> codfection: this is nothing to do with this channel
[14:03] <codfection> ikonia, just answering to sruli
[14:04] <ikonia> no you're asking if os X is superior to ubuntu
[14:04] <ikonia> and making statements like "more stable and fast"
[14:04] <pseudonymous> codfection: As someone who is using OSX daily, both personally and at work. I'd say it's not that simple. It's definitely not more stable, I've had plenty of system freezes for various reasons. It's not bugfree (plugging monitors in/out will fail at times). It's a true Unix only because they pay for a certification. Unix-philosophy-wise it isn't
[14:04] <sruli> codfection: dont know which one i'll get, will find the cheapest used macbook pro .. its just for testing and to help people who want to use linux on mac.. dont really need it.. if it turns out that it works blazingly fast might consider buying good one for myself... os x is superior in what way? free and opensource? i can configure it in which ever shape or form i want ?  anyway this is way off-topic.. u asked about models which support linux.. i answered...
[14:06] <codfection> pseudonymous, thanks a lot
[14:06] <aruns> codefection : Ubuntu works like charm on XPS 13/15 , Also works on razor pro , and mac book as well. Depends on your usage, You want coding then XPS 13/15 is bests machine among the category you asked.
[14:08] <codfection> aruns, why xps is better for coding? makes no sense
[14:10] <thresh> hi.  is it me or unattended upgrades are broken on 16.10.  I get "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.".
[14:10] <thresh> and somehow "apt-utils : Depends: apt (= 1.3.1) but 1.3.2ubuntu0.1 is installed".
[14:10] <pseudonymous> codfection: NP :) FYI - the unix philosophy can be read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy <- you'll see that the unix philosophy enables shell scripting because each program should do one thing and should communicate in text etc. That's why 'cat'/'sed'/'echo'/'ls' etc are unix'y programs and Safari & iTunes aren't :)
[14:10] <ppf> thresh: did you fiddle with ppas
[14:11] <thresh> ppf, I havent
[14:11] <ppf> what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:11] <pseudonymous> thresh: I got the same error and I didn't add any ppa's either. However, do as it says and the error will go away :)
[14:11] <thresh> pseudonymous, sure, I can do that - but not easily since this is an image to start VMs.  I'd rather fix the issue than apply band-aid.
[14:13] <pseudonymous> thresh: I'm not sure I follow, most VM-style products allow taking snapshots from which to derive new VM's, isn't this possible for you ?
[14:13] <thresh> pseudonymous, that's exactly what I do (I run a small cloud for my own needs)
[14:13] <thresh> and since a couple of days ago yakkety VMs started to misbehave
[14:14] <thresh> all in all I kinda support the idea of keeping the machine up-to-date, but oh well maybe I should just disable unattended upgrades and be done.
[14:15] <holycrunchitz> hi
[14:16] <holycrunchitz> I'm trying to troubleshoot  a dead apache install. is there a command that will check my vhost configs and dump errors?
[14:18] <holycrunchitz> any help at all would be lovely
[14:18] <Pici> holycrunchitz: apache2 -t  would be a good start
[14:18] <holycrunchitz> tyvm Pici
[14:20] <holycrunchitz> omg can't type this morning
[14:21] <GrandPa-G> I am trying to do an install of pear and get error dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-NW8Pyy/0-zeroc-ice-utils_3.6.3-1000_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[14:21] <GrandPa-G>  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/slice2html', which is also in package zeroc-ice-compilers 3.6.2-stretch-51-gba6baa6-2
[14:22] <vfw> holycrunchitz: systemctl status apache
[14:22] <cfhowlett> GrandPa-G, pear????
[14:22] <holycrunchitz> I think that's what I was looking for
[14:22] <GrandPa-G> cfhowlett: yes, it is for mail for php
[14:23] <GrandPa-G> i have tried apt-get -f install and I get this (and a few other like it) errors.
[14:24] <holycrunchitz> erg
[14:25] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Whasamatter?
[14:25] <holycrunchitz> vfw can't get apache to tell me what's wrong. all my vhosts are down
[14:25] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Did you see any errors?
[14:26] <holycrunchitz> vfw no. that's the problem
[14:26] <vfw> holycrunchitz: how about /var/log/apache/error_log
[14:26] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Let us take a look:  systemctl status apache |& nc termbin.com 9999
[14:27] <vfw> ... send URL
[14:27] <holycrunchitz> the apache error log is empty
[14:27] <holycrunchitz> just getting the other
[14:27] <xela> hi - i'm getting fsck errors after clean umount of the partition. I mean: mkdir /test; mount /dev/xxx /test; ls -al /test; umount /test; fsck /dev/xxx -> xxx contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[14:28] <holycrunchitz> http://termbin.com/dllm
[14:28] <holycrunchitz> vfw none of what i'm seeing for errors is very descriptive
[14:28] <xela> the filesystem is ext4, and the partition table is GUID. But a clean umount shouldn't avoid such errors at fsck ?
[14:28] <GrandPa-G> if I see "10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 7 not upgraded." what is the next step I should take?
[14:28] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Let us take a look:  systemctl status httpd |& nc termbin.com 9999
[14:29] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Can't remember which it is...
[14:29] <holycrunchitz> vfw http://termbin.com/dllm
[14:29] <holycrunchitz> also service not found
[14:29] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Not running?
[14:29] <holycrunchitz> yeah
[14:29] <vfw> holycrunchitz: start it.
[14:29] <holycrunchitz> no error
[14:30] <holycrunchitz> silent failure i guess.
[14:30] <vfw> holycrunchitz: systemctl start apache
[14:30] <GrandPa-G> vfw: should it be apache2?
[14:30] <holycrunchitz> vfw http://termbin.com/b8qs
[14:31] <holycrunchitz> yes. thank you GG
[14:31] <holycrunchitz> sorry cup of coffee number one over here
[14:31] <holycrunchitz> XD
[14:31] <lesshaste> how can I change the default audio track in a video?
[14:31] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Let us take a look:  systemctl status apache2 |& nc termbin.com 9999
[14:32] <vfw> lesshaste: kdenlive
[14:32] <GrandPa-G> I need help with dns-nameserver and network-manager not picking up values from interfaces file.
[14:34] <holycrunchitz> for the record, my apache logs just say AH00016: Configuration Failed over and over
[14:34] <holycrunchitz> is there a way to narrow it down?
[14:38] <GrandPa-G> holycrunchitz: have you tried sudo apache2ctl configtest?
[14:38] <vfw> holycrunchitz: lynx --dump localhost
[14:38] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Does it say "Unable to connect"
[14:39] <GrandPa-G> holycrunchitz: are you using certs?
[14:39] <holycrunchitz> i don't have lynx installed
[14:39] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Or replace localhost with IP-address
[14:39] <holycrunchitz> i am using certs
[14:39] <holycrunchitz> apachectl says config ok
[14:39] <GrandPa-G> don't know if this helps, but look at http://www.randomhacks.co.uk/apache-2-4-failed-to-start-ah00016-configuration-failed/ towards the middle
[14:40] <vfw> holycrunchitz: sudo apt-get install lynx
[14:40] <holycrunchitz> but wget localhost returns connection refused
[14:40] <holycrunchitz> apache is not running
[14:41] <BluesKaj> GrandPa-G, try adding the nameservers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , just ignore the warning in that file
[14:41] <holycrunchitz> what about php config?
[14:41] <holycrunchitz> can i test my php.ini?
[14:41] <holycrunchitz> could that cause this?
[14:42] <Southern_Gentlem> holycrunchitz, there is something in your configs thats bombing
[14:42] <holycrunchitz> yes
[14:42] <vfw> holycrunchitz: You can only test php if you get apache2 running.
[14:42] <holycrunchitz> i need to narrow it down
[14:42] <Southern_Gentlem> so remove one by one and test
[14:43] <holycrunchitz> 9i thought maybe a bad php setting. i changed some stuff in php.ini yesterday.
[14:43] <holycrunchitz> I've been working on trying to get our postfix working
[14:43] <holycrunchitz> haven't even changed stuff in apache in over a week
[14:44] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Something broke it.  Can you nail down a time when it quit?
[14:44] <Southern_Gentlem> so most likely its in you php
[14:44] <holycrunchitz> yesterday is the earliest I noticed
[14:45] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Restart apache2 and look again.
[14:45] <vfw> holycrunchitz: systemctl status apache2
[14:46] <vfw> holycrunchitz: What version of Ubuntu?
[14:46] <GrandPa-G> BluesKaj: I have them in the interfaces file, but will try head file as well. How can I see what it current is?
[14:46] <vfw> holycrunchitz: lsb_release -r
[14:46] <holycrunchitz> http://pastebin.com/uZJP3Tw3
[14:47] <holycrunchitz> that's from the restart
[14:47] <holycrunchitz> 16.04
[14:48] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Look at the logfile again.
[14:48] <vfw> holycrunchitz: cat /var/log/apache2/error_log |nc termbin.com 9999
[14:49] <holycrunchitz> AH00016: Configuration Failed
[14:49] <holycrunchitz> over an over
[14:49] <holycrunchitz> no need for a termbin
[14:51] <vfw> holycrunchitz: sudo strace -f apache2ctl start
[14:51] <holycrunchitz> strace isn't helpful
[14:51] <holycrunchitz> the output is super verbose and I've picked it over a couple times
[14:52] <thresh> ppf, pseudonymous, speaking about the apt issue I had before, it seems like it's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1649959
[14:52] <thresh> so, not the ppa
[14:53] <vfw> holycrunchitz: http://flaz.biz/2015/08/apache-wont-start-with-a-generic-ah00016-configuration-failed/
[14:53] <pseudonymous> thresh: interesting - I came across it on a regular workstation install.
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !aptlock
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !aptlock
[14:54] <holycrunchitz> vfw. i have to go to work soon, and if we don't get this first, thank you for your help
[14:54] <vfw> holycrunchitz: Ok
[14:55] <vfw> holycrunchitz: http://flaz.biz/2015/08/apache-wont-start-with-a-generic-ah00016-configuration-failed/
[14:57] <elGALLO> if I reinstall Ubuntu, will I lose my RAID 0 setup?
[15:00] <pavan> how to uplod image in chat
[15:00] <pavan> i am using xchat-gnome in ubuntu
[15:01] <holycrunchitz> I have to go to work. site still down
[15:01] <holycrunchitz> :'(
[15:01] <pseudonymous> pavan: to the best of my knowledge. You can't, you'll have to upload the image to some service, then link it
[15:02] <pavan> ok
[15:02] <elGALLO> if I reinstall Ubuntu will I lose my RAID 0 setup?
[15:02] <elGALLO> pavan like imgur, puush,
[15:03] <pavan> elGALLO  what it is
[15:03] <elGALLO> imgur.com  puush.me
[15:04] <elGALLO> upload your image, either site will give you a link, then you can cut and paster the link here
[15:04] <pavan> oks
[15:04] <pavan> thanks elGALLO
[15:10] <LordNelthon> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu with lvm on luks with boot inside the encrypted container. I'm installing the grub manually (with efi support), but I'm getting the following error on boot: http://pastebin.com/V63qHuMr . I followed this article: http://askubuntu.com/questions/729673/ubuntu-full-disk-encryption-with-encrypted-boot
[15:13] <klanka> need help installing cannon MX450 series printer
[15:15] <klanka> cups problem?
[15:17] <h1n1> hello peoples
[15:20] <zykotick9> LordNelthon: <sidenote only> that seems like a LOT of work, for minimal benefit (having /boot encrypted)...  are you _sure_ it's worth it?  best of luck.
[15:23] <LordNelthon> zykotick9:
[15:23] <LordNelthon> it does not make the system more secure against the vector attack?
[15:24] <zykotick9> LordNelthon: i'm not sure what "the vector attack" even is... so i couldn't say.
[15:24] <Southern_Gentlem> LordNelthon,  no not really
[15:31] <sruli> in /etc/crypttab after uuid i put "none luks,discard" this is for ssd, what do i put for regular hdd?
[15:35] <LordNelthon> sruli: dont use the discard, it tells the system to use the ssd trim
[15:35] <sruli> LordNelthon: just "luks none" ?
[15:36] <LordNelthon> sruli: yes, but pay attention to the order. first none to tell that there is no key to open and then the luks
[15:38] <sruli> LordNelthon: typo, yes thanks
[15:39] <sruli> i have an error when updating initramfs, "w: possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1.bin" for module i915_bpo" same line again with file skl_guc_ver6.bin what are those files, how do i fix?
[15:41] <LordNelthon> zykotick9: it's when someone changes the unencrypted boot partition content to compromise your system when you boot it normally. but since grub would need to be in the unencrypted efi partition if the boot p. is encrypted, Southern_Gentlem is right, if anyone knows how to do it in one way knows the other way too and it's not that harder to justify
[15:43] <Southern_Gentlem> LordNelthon,  how are they going to do that
[15:43] <Southern_Gentlem> without escalated
[15:43] <Turbo_1111> hello
[15:44] <LordNelthon> I have two separate disks, hdd and ssd with partitions encrypted in both. Does anyone know how to not have to type a password twice on boot (once for each partition in separate drives)?
[15:45] <sruli> on the subject of encrypted boot, is there a way to encrypt it on a dualboot (win+ubuntu) with no password needed for booting win?
[15:46] <sruli> LordNelthon: is using a key inside the root partition to mount the other partition accaptable solution for u?
[15:46] <LordNelthon> Southern_Gentlem: After the research I have made, I think it's really hard to do and even some exploits would be needed, but it's not impossible. I don't know how to do it, but it's seams plausible.
[15:47] <jamesrleimer> morning
[15:47] <LordNelthon> sruli: I tried that and it did not work, because there is no guarantee that the root filesystem is mounted when you need the key for the second drive.
[15:48] <sruli> LordNelthon: what is the second partition? why not add the script to mount it after boot finished
[15:48] <LordNelthon> sruli: I think you don't need the key if the boot is outside an unencrypted volume (someone correct me if wrong)
[15:49] <snadge> i installed updates on my laptop... ubuntu 16.10, and now its stuck at loading initial ramdisk
[15:49] <LordNelthon> sruli: The second partition is just the /home so it should work, but maybe there is an easy way, I don't know
[15:49] <sruli> LordNelthon: didnt follow from the start are you talking about using the password for boot to open root?
[15:50] <snadge> removing quiet splash doesn't seem to achieve anything.. if i edit the rescue option and add init=/sbin/upstart .. then it will boot into recovery mode
[15:50] <snadge> i broke systemd maybe? :/
[15:51] <sruli> LordNelthon: in that case if its not open do you get to a gui login screen at all?
[15:51] <LordNelthon> sruli: The crypttab just opens the volumes and then fstab mounts it. That's why the key in the first one might not work
[15:53] <LordNelthon> sruli: Since both have an entry in crypttab the system asks twice for password, so always reach login after that. With the key in the first one I have not tested yet, but all articles point to what I said previously.
[15:54] <uruk7> hello I have ubuntu 16.04 software ubuntu center doesn't work
[15:54] <sruli> LordNelthon: put the key in the crypttab file, "sdX_crypt      UUID=xxxxx  /path/to/keyfile  luks"
[15:54] <uruk7> can yuo help me
[15:56] <ledeni> uruk7, what you try to install?
[15:56] <sruli> uruk7: please state the exact problem you have
[15:58] <LordNelthon> sruli: When crypttab opens the encrypted volume it mounts the partitions right away with the information in fstab? If not, there is no path to the key file yet
[16:00] <sruli> LordNelthon: not sure, but it should know where the keyfile is as soon as it tries to mount, try it.. see how it goes
[16:00] <sruli> LordNelthon: is it 2 phisical drives or just partitions?
[16:01] <bobofezza> yo bros
[16:05] <LordNelthon> sruli: 2 physical drives, 1 luks volume in each. I'm going to try. In a few minutes I have the feedback
[16:07] <sruli> LordNelthon: why dont u use lvm turn both drives into 1 LV, this way you will only need 1 luks
[16:10] <LordNelthon> sruli: Since one is SSD and other HDD, the HDD it's for home to store files, I think it would be hard to make this separation
[16:10] <sruli> gotcha
[16:20] <sucode_> i
[16:21] <sucode_> i want to contribute to linux kernel; where should i start; is there any specific irc chennal for that
[16:23] <yeeve> hey chat, trying to use rsyslog to get apache error/access logs but my current setup uses apache vhosts with their own logs. Is this just complicating it all if I'm just going to push it all to a single server?
[16:24] <pseudonymous> sucode_: they use mailing lists to coordinate work. And while I wouldn't want to discourage you, they won't hold your hands on getting started.
[16:25] <vfw> yeeve: nfs
[16:25] <sucode_> pseudonymous: why is it so ?
[16:25] <yeeve> nfs? (as in network-file-system/samba?)
[16:25] <pseudonymous> sucode_: why they use mailing lists or why they won't hold your hands ?
[16:26] <vfw> yeeve: Yea, maybe a possible alternative?
[16:26] <sucode_> pseudonymous: no irc why ?
[16:27] <yeeve> vfw, my main concern at the moment is adding extra steps for nothing, if I have 10 split logs which are going to be pumped into rsyslog remotely, I might as well pump all the error/access logs into 2 files (instead of 10)  so the rsyslog setup is easier (new to all this so trying stuff out)
[16:28] <pseudonymous> sucode_: I guess they feel IRC is a bad medium. Mails allow longer, more thought-out responses because, unlike IRC, twitter, slack, telegram etc there is no need for an immediate response. Also, IRC, like twitter, have some limits on message length, again discouraging deep discussion.
[16:28] <vfw> yeeve: Just seems simpler than having multiple copies of the same file.
[16:29] <sucode_> pseudonymous: would u give me some link (mailing list, to get started)......
[16:29] <yeeve> Ok so I'll change apache first so it's just 2 files and then I'll worry about the rsyslog steps. I just wanted to make sure no one in chat was going to correct me and show me an easier way to handle multiple files in rsyslog
[16:29] <vfw> yeeve: Either way is ok.... one may be easier for you, that's all.
[16:29] <xxxx> hi. yesterday i download ubuntu 16.04 lts, put in a 500hd computer with 4 partitions (80g "/", 380G /home/, 4G swap , 4g empty) for trying to fix a boot problem... cannot turn off: in the final process, the ubuntu logo just freezes and fo nothing else until i turn off manualy but i think important updates cannot install well and the display broken last week... any ideas?
[16:30] <xxxx> fo > do*
[16:30] <vfw> yeeve: But that's just one persons opinion.
[16:30] <yeeve> I value your opinion more than my own at this point :) cheers vfw
[16:31] <vfw> xxxx: Tell us more.   Boot problem?
[16:31] <pseudonymous> sucode_: https://kernelnewbies.org/ML has some info. The front-page even mentions an IRC channel where other newbies hang out (purportedly). Though I got to say - kernel development requires that you're self-driven, not relying on a ton of help from others
[16:32] <xxxx> boot for saying = cannot turn off
[16:32] <vfw> xxxx: So you've yet to install grub?
[16:32] <xxxx> i click shut down, shut down again... and the final ubuntu logo just freezes
[16:32] <uruk7> i can not install ffmpeg
[16:32] <xxxx> i intalled the last 5 times
[16:33] <vfw> !info ffmpeg | uruk7
[16:33] <xxxx> the problem are from the first ubuntu download and delete windows
[16:33] <sucode_> pseudonymous: i like helping myself; thanks after all
[16:34] <sruli> uruk7: what error do you get when installing? did you try from command line or only software center?
[16:34] <xxxx> vfw: gonna install grub and try again, come back in a minute
[16:34] <vfw> xxxx: I'm not sure we udnerstand the exact nature of your problem.  Please tell us more or restate more clearly the problem you are having.
[16:35] <pseudonymous> sucode_: no problem. Remember; the key to getting going is to find small problems (maybe look for small bug-reports) and to find some way to easily test (find a quite on booting a small VM in kvm directly from a kernel image). That way, you have a mission and a way of testing your progress
[16:35] <vfw> xxxx: I was only speculating about grub.  You said you had trouble shutting down?
[16:35] <xxxx> i shut down the software (ubuntu) and in the end, the ubuntu logo, just freezes and that's it.. i have tu shut down with the power button
[16:36] <sucode_> pseudonymous: thanks for your guidance
[16:36] <vfw> xxxx: Power it back up agan.  Open a terminal and issue command:
[16:36] <vfw> xxxx: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[16:36] <vfw> xxxx: reboot again.
[16:36] <xxxx> done. nothing
[16:37] <xxxx> but i try whit the grub first, come back
[16:37] <yenclgj5nlw> Hi all. Is it only me who experience plasma crashes when uses the search in the start menu?
[16:41] <xxxx> vfw: i'ts something weird.. yesterday, after install ubuntu.. when ask me to remove the installation device and press enter never turn on again, just the blue light of the computer and i do nothing else than go to sleep the full night
[16:44] <xxxx> *all night long
[16:45] <sruli> how do i check what is the latest kernel available on 16.04
[16:46] <OerHeks> sruli, uname -a # if you run 16.04 now
[16:46] <vfw> sruli: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[16:47] <OerHeks> or take a look at launchpad
[16:47] <sruli> dont want to check what i have installed, just want to know hwat the latest is
[16:47] <OerHeks> sruli, lolz, lazy kid
[16:47] <sruli> OerHeks: where on lunchpad?
[16:48] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic xenial | sruli
[16:48] <OerHeks> sruli, you know perfectly how to find it, i am not your google,
[16:48] <xxxx> i think is: sudo apt update (??????)
[16:48] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xenial | sruli
[16:48] <vfw> sruli: apt-cache policy linux-image
[16:49] <nacc> sruli: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack
[16:49] <sruli> thanks
[16:56] <yeeve> with rsyslog.conf and `*.* @rsyslog.server.co.uk:514` I'm not getting a %programname% for the kernel/syslog bits, is there a way to tell rsyslog to send a default programname via rsyslog.conf?
[16:57] <ikonia> default program name ?
[16:58] <yeeve> ikonia, on the server I'm using $programname% with logged -t "name" to push into a log called name.log but syslog/kernel stuff isn't been written. If i remove my rules I get syslog.log with ALL the bits in a single file (not bad but I would like syslog.log kernel.log and apache.log etc)
[16:59] <yeeve> I'm half tempted to setup a super simple version just pumping everything into it's own %hostname%.log file which rotates daily. I can prob filter kernel/syslog/apache stuff using some parsing tool
[17:01] <Sujay> hi guys
[17:02] <LordNelthon> sruli: it works with the key inside the first volume! yeah
[17:03] <Arpit> hi all
[17:03] <sruli> LordNelthon: great
[17:04] <phos1> I am trying to upgrade to php 5.6, php -v shows php 5.6, but php info on my website shows 5.5 still. I am running Ubuntu 14.04.5
[17:05] <Arpit> i have upgraded my laptop to ubuntu 12.04 from windows... now today i tried to upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 and packages were downloading ... i left for some time and when i came back trying to og in getting the " GNU GRUB Version 1.99-18ubuntu1" can you please help me to get out of it... i am completely new to ubuntu
[17:06] <yeeve> phos1, are you using mod_php or php_fpm?
[17:06] <Arpit> i have upgraded my laptop to ubuntu 12.04 from windows... now today i tried to upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 and packages were downloading ... i left for some time and when i came back trying to og in getting the " GNU GRUB Version 1.99-18ubuntu1" can you please help me to get out of it... i am completely new to ubuntu
[17:07] <nacc> !patience | Arpit
[17:07] <phos1> yeeve: mod_php
[17:07] <yeeve> phos1, does this return anything? `apachectl -M | grep php`
[17:07] <nacc> phos1: what's the package you installed to upgrade to 5.6?
[17:08] <phos1> yeeve:  php5_module (shared)
[17:08] <phos1> nacc: sudo apt-get -y update
[17:08] <phos1> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php
[17:08] <phos1> sudo apt-get -y update
[17:08] <phos1> sudo apt-get -y install php5.6 php5.6-mcrypt php5.6-mbstring php5.6-curl php5.6-cli php5.6-mysql php5.6-gd php5.6-intl php5.6-xsl php5.6-zip
[17:08] <yeeve> you may have to do something like a2dismod php5 && a2enmod php5.6
[17:08] <phos1> Ops sorry about multi line
[17:08] <nacc> phos1: ah, so not ubuntu's packages :)
[17:08] <ikonia> yeeve: interesting, so it's the "prefix" you're missing in the log ?
[17:08] <Arpit> ok thanks ubottu.. i was trying to search but doesnt understand which option to choose
[17:08] <nacc> phos1: but what yeeve said is probably right, to enable the 'correct' php module
[17:09] <phos1> Ok, I’ve never done that command, is it just as he said?
[17:09] <yeeve> ikonia, it seems so but the default syslog/kernel stuff just get generally pushed to rsyslog via the *.*, with apache I'm using logger so I can supply the name/tag via -t
[17:09] <yeeve> phos1, you'll need root/sudo but it should just work
[17:09] <yeeve> I had the same issue moving from 5.6 yo 7.0/7.1
[17:09] <phos1> yup I have that. trying it
[17:09] <nacc> phos1: i think so, but not done it myelf
[17:10] <ikonia> yeeve: can you not assign a standard syslog event eg: .warn to your application events ?
[17:10] <phos1> Looks promising, rebooting
[17:10] <phos1> Fail!
[17:10] <yeeve> ikonia, I'm super new to all this, you mean like `*.warn server.address.co.uk:514`
[17:10] <yeeve> phos1, fail?
[17:11] <nacc> and why did you reboot to test an apache change
[17:11] <phos1> Yeah, it came back with “Restating web server apache 2 …. Fail"
[17:11] <phos1> nacc: It told me to: To activate the new configuration, you need to run:
[17:11] <phos1>   service apache2 restart
[17:11] <nacc> phos1: oh, not reboot, restart
[17:11] <ikonia> yeeve: well not quite, that will send all warning events (not a bad thing) but you need to define lets say...apache 404 (just for example) as a warn event, so that it's logged as a *.warn event
[17:11] <yeeve> phos1, `apache2ctl configtest` might show something helpful
[17:11] <ikonia> yeeve: that way it's using a standard priority, which may work better than using logger -t
[17:12] <phos1> rebooting whole server...
[17:12] <ikonia> yeeve: (I don't know - I'm suggesting as I've not got a syslog host running application events in front of me)
[17:12] <yeeve> ikonia, that's fine dude I'll keep looking. I'm using the logger command because it seems like a nice/clean/easy way to push apache logs and can be undone easily. if I could using logger for syslog and kernel messages I probably would :P
[17:12] <phos1> that worked thanks!
[17:13] <ikonia> yeeve: I'm pretty sure you can do it without logger, I'm pretty sure I did it last year for apache (funny enough) for a php based application
[17:14] <yeeve> ikonia, I think I can but I've got 20+ vhosts setup each logging to it's own error and access log so instead of changing (read: breaking :P) everything, I'm just using the logger. I might try get it all using the rsyslog.conf stuff though but I think it means I need a single error.log and access.log for all my vhosts to share
[17:15] <Arpit> upgradation from 12.0 LTS to 14.04 LTS crashed.. on log in getting the "GNU GRUB version 1.99-18ubuntu1" with couple of options.... how to get out of this screen ? thanks
[17:15] <ikonia> yeeve: nah, you can do it with multiple log files, that I'm sure of
[17:17] <yeeve> ikonia, I can but it seems messy/complex, my ideal (at the moment at least) is to keep everything simple and with as few moving parts as possible. (once I'm comfy with the setup I'll try consolidate it all, plus I have 5+ servers to go through so I'll build my experience up soon enough)
[17:18] <yeeve> I appreciate having someone to talk it through with. I'll bare what you've said in mind and aim to do as much as I can via rsyslog.conf :)
[17:18] <ikonia> yeeve: use an include directory and just drop per app / per vhost syslog.conf files in
[17:19] <ikonia> yeeve: you'll find it very modular and easy to manage individual applications with different logging needs
[17:19] <yeeve> ikonia, that's a great idea, I like that. bit of leg work up front but I could integrate it into my vhost setup scripts to make it smooth
[17:20] <ikonia> yeeve: if you leverage config managment tools, puppet/chef/ansible/bcfg2/something you'll find it easy to template and deploy too
[17:22] <yeeve> ikonia, nooooo that's too much too soon :p (read: i'm lazy xD) I've considered it and I try to keep up with the terms/names but for now I don't setup/configure enough for it to seem viable. My server setup is generally a script to setup/lockdown, one to setup apache and one to setup mysql and that's it :P
[17:24] <maracha> PRIVMSG #ubuntu: hi
[17:24] <eeight> is software center down (ubuntu 16.04) ????
[17:24] <eeight> or deprecated!?
[17:25] <eeight> just installed ubuntu 16.04 to show to my boss that our game could be in the ubuntu store = boom nothing
[17:25] <OerHeks> eeight, no, why?
[17:26] <xangua> eeight: gnome software is the new software centre apparently
[17:26] <xangua> eeight: did you enable the partner repositories
[17:26] <eeight> a fresh install of ubuntu 16, there's an icon a the quick launch bar for ubuntu software, but no applications are shown....
[17:26] <OerHeks> Did you update?
[17:27] <xangua> eeight: it takes some time to load
[17:27] <eeight> it is a fresh install and enable automatic update while installing
[17:27] <eeight> it's been 5 mins come on
[17:28] <xangua> Terminate gnome software, run apt update and try again
[17:28] <eeight> I can see Editor's Picks, but no thumbnails (...) no titles, nothing
[17:28] <eeight> gnome software == ubuntu software ?
[17:28] <diverdude> Hi. I need to copy a 250G file from one mount point to another. I would like to be able to see the copy speed while it is being copied (mb/s). What would be the best and fastest tool for this?
[17:29] <yeeve> diverdude, rsync -avzP /src/file /dst/ should do the trick
[17:29] <yeeve> (avz not always needed for local copies but it never stops me, and -P will give you the progress which should show transfer speed)
[17:30] <yeeve> also if rsync is stopped half way with the -P on it will pick up where it got stopped (i think, not 100% sure but I think that's correct)
[17:30] <eeight> @xangua: no luck
[17:33] <Guest34048> mate >> unity
[17:38] <diverdude> when copying a large binary file with dd what is the optimal blocksize?
[17:39] <LordNelthon> when I try to do cryptsetup luksClose it says it's busy, but I know that everything is unmounted
[17:39] <alpha_tester> i have an r7-250x and i dont know which driver to use with 16.04 help if you know thanks
[17:40] <xangua> eeight: sorry I was updating, i don't really get the decision of including gnome software and KDE boutique in LTS releases
[17:40] <ikonia> LordNelthon: there is more to a device being in use than mounted
[17:41] <OerHeks> xangua, it should work, odd
[17:41] <sruli> LordNelthon: whats the output of "lsof /dev/mapper/<cryptdevice>"
[17:41] <xangua> eeight: even when I have the partner repository enabled, it won't show KDE, gnome software seems to prefer to offer gnome related software
[17:42] <sruli> xangua: have you enabled thord party repo?
[17:42] <xangua> sruli: always do
[17:44] <jeffree> in pulse audio volume control, under input tab, by 'port' I can select between 'Internal Microphone' and 'Microphone (unplugged). I am using a laptop. Can anyone guess why 'Microphone (unplugged)' is receiving audio? There is nothing plugged into the mic input jack.
[17:45] <xangua> OerHeks: it works, but why would Canonical choose something that won't offer or even show software from it's partners?
[17:46] <OerHeks> xangua, no clue, i start with installing synaptic
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[17:46] <xangua> Haven't installed synaptic, trying to learn to use apt better
[17:50] <Bipul>  I have question, If i am compressing my .pdf files into zip via zip -r command, then i hope it should easily open at windows
[17:51] <nacc> Bipul: what is your question?
[17:52] <xangua> Bipul: or you could just install 7zip in windows
[17:52] <quup> Bipul: yup, that should be fine  (just don't expect to save much space since pdfs often contained compressed data already)
[17:53] <quup> Bipul: but for just bundling up files .zip is usually best if you want to share with windows
[17:54] <Bipul> Yes, i just wanted to make sure it works on windows if i compressed the files on Linux terminal via zip -r file.zip files*
[17:54] <ipwn> hi, how an eee more concretely on a inspiron mini how do i set the proper resolution? do i have to change Xorg settings? eg. i want to put OS screen fitting monitor screen but at default using lubuntu is not well
[17:55] <xangua> ipwn: did you try Lubuntu monitor settings?
[17:58] <azooz> hello
[18:02] <ipwn> xangua, no,that option is avail after installation?
[18:03] <ipwn> also i keep getting a error when i try to install Lubuntu w encryption
[18:03] <ipwn> is it normal?
[18:04] <ipwn> i read about a distro that is more lightweight than Lubuntu called "icebuntu" or "spri linux" but it seems its abandoned, their site do not work
[18:05] <bluefox83> ipwn: try dsl (damn small linux)
[18:05] <ipwn> i did swapoff on Lubuntu but i get another error complaining its not able to install w encryption
[18:05] <ipwn> i know DSL
[18:05] <ipwn> but Lubuntu works fine on eee or inspiron mini computers?
[18:10] <ipwn> bluefox83,
[18:12] <MotherMGA> Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 16.10.  I normally use chromium browser and a few months ago my system updated to Chromium 53, which has a known bug: NET::ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIRED
[18:13] <MotherMGA> I switched to a PPA that has Chromium 54, which doesn't have that bug, but I'm constantly getting "Aw Snap" errors where the browser simply crashes.
[18:13] <MotherMGA> I've since switched to a Chrome PPA, but I'm still getting "Aw Snap" crashes.
[18:13] <sruli> in ubuntu-mate using Mutiny menu, how can i cahgne the icon of a custom launcher?
[18:14] <MotherMGA> Is Chrome/Chromium just totally busted on ubuntu? whats going on?
[18:15] <GrandPa-G> I am trying to run an apt-get purge, (or any other apt-get) and get error "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:15] <GrandPa-G> " and list. How do I fix this so I can go on?
[18:17] <elGALLO> if I reinstall Ubuntu 16.04.1 server will I lose my RAID 0 setup?
[18:18] <ikonia> elGALLO: no
[18:19] <uruk7> i can not install ffmpeg
[18:20] <uruk7> in ubuntu 16.04
[18:21] <Epx998> Is there a single command that returns the number of cores a system has?
[18:21] <vfw> !info ffmpeg xenial | uruk7
[18:21] <vfw> uruk7: What seems to be the problem?
[18:21] <i_and_i> MotherMGA.. i dunno Chromium, but it sound you better downgrade back to the stable version, if possible
[18:21] <vfw> uruk7: Are you getting some sort of error?
[18:22] <MotherMGA> i_and_i: stable version is 53, which has the net transparency bug, which breaks 20% of all sites in existance
[18:22] <uruk7> vfw error of dependences libavcodec57 don't instaled ....
[18:22] <i_and_i> how bout the version before that one?
[18:23] <MotherMGA> I guess I can look for 52. let me see
[18:23] <i_and_i> i use Firefox myself
[18:23] <i_and_i> aight:)
[18:23] <uruk7> and software ubuntu center doesnt work
[18:23] <vfw> uruk7: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[18:23] <vfw> uruk7: Tell us if you get errors...
[18:24] <devslash> I installed Ubuntu on my laptop last night and it installed correctly but I'm having an issue with Grub. I already had Windows 10 on it (sda3). I created sda4 as a Bios Boot partition sda5 as the root partition as sda6 as swap. Is it possible to install grub to sda4 partition ? During the installation when I was setting up the partitions, I didn't have a BIOS boot partition at first and the installer warned me about that so I created the 1GB
[18:24] <devslash> BIOS boot partition
[18:24] <i_and_i> uruk perhaps you could use the Synaptic Package Manager instead
[18:24] <i_and_i> for ffmpeg
[18:25] <uruk7> vfw -> http://pastebin.com/raw/MvXKaUHH
[18:25] <SleePy> I have mdadm, and I notice that a resync is occurring, but I don't see any drives having been removed. stat shows "2 near-copies [4/4] [UUUU]".  I'm thinking that some cron task kicked off and has it doing a verify.  I can't find anything in roots crontab nor do I see anything in /etc/cron.* stuff.  Thoughts?  Ubuntu 16.04.1
[18:25] <adamm9> e.net
[18:25] <vfw> devslash: So it's not booting for you?
[18:25] <ikonia> SleePy: you think wrong
[18:25] <sruli> devslash: have you used luks or unencrypted?
[18:26] <ikonia> SleePy: it's probably just lost state, so is doing a resync
[18:26] <devslash> unencrypted
[18:26] <devslash> vfw if i choose the boot menu at boot up and select the linux partition it boots into Ubuntu
[18:26] <devslash> but grub doesn't appear to be installed
[18:26] <SleePy> ikonia: Well checking the smart status yields no results, so just maybe a timeout or something that caused the system to drop the disk and then readd it?
[18:26] <ikonia> SleePy: unlikley
[18:27] <vfw> devslash: install grub to sda
[18:27] <vfw> devslash: (not a partition)
[18:27] <devslash> I tried. unfortunately im not in front of the computer so i cant tell you what the error was
[18:28] <SleePy> ikonia: So should I worry.  Just trying to dig into why.  The system auto-rebooted over midnight for some reason.  Wasn't a power loss.
[18:28] <uruk7> i_and_i synaptic doesn't download
[18:28] <ikonia> SleePy: no need to worry
[18:28] <ikonia> probably just the unclean shutdown
[18:28] <SleePy> I've had issues with this system doing auto reboots since I built it.  Can't find the reason.
[18:29] <SleePy> Thinking the PSU or motherboard since the OS shows no indication or no data is written before it reboots, just logs up until the reboot and then the system showing it booting.
[18:30] <i_and_i> hmm
[18:30] <compdoc> SleePy, how does SMART look?
[18:30] <i_and_i> it's a must-have
[18:31] <uruk7> i_and_i?
[18:31] <SleePy> compdoc: All disks pass
[18:31] <i_and_i> uruk perhaps you have not set all the right repositories ?
[18:31] <vfw> uruk7: sudo apt install libavcodec57 |& nc termbin.com 9999
[18:31] <vfw> uruk7: SHow us resulting URL
[18:31] <compdoc> SleePy, sometimes they pass even though there are a few reallocated or pending sectors
[18:32] <compdoc> but you only need one reallocated or pending sectors to screw it up
[18:32] <uruk7> http://termbin.com/ypjd
[18:32] <UNIm95> Hi. Can someone help me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/860934/mate-purple-icons-after-reboot
[18:34] <SleePy> compdoc: http://pastebin.com/wpAvPVuY
[18:34] <compdoc> SleePy, perfect
[18:34] <SleePy> All 4 disks related to the current raid rebuilding.  I have 2 other disks in a raid 1, but those are not rebuilding or rebuilt already (SSDs for OS)
[18:35] <compdoc> PSUs, and older motherboard can develope bad caps
[18:35] <uruk7> vwf --> http://termbin.com/ypjd
[18:36] <SleePy> System is 2-3 years old, but I haven't checked the caps
[18:37] <vfw> uruk7: sudo apt-get -f install |& nc termbin.com 9999
[18:44] <vfw> uruk7: https://www.devmanuals.net/install/ubuntu/ubuntu-16-04-LTS-Xenial-Xerus/how-to-install-libopenjp2-7.html
[18:45] <uruk7> vfw --> http://termbin.com/p0gk
[18:49] <vfw> uruk7: Follow link above - the part pertaining to 16.04
[18:51] <vfw> \\
[18:56] <Arturo> helloo
[18:57] <Arturo> I just installed ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS, I need some help installing kde :)
[18:57] <wafflejock> Arturo, why not just install kubuntu? you want unity too?
[18:58] <Arturo> wafflejock: I tried kubuntu, it works great but I want to have the main OS
[18:58] <nacc> Arturo: also, why specifically 14.04.1 (rather than say 14.04.5 or even 16.04.1 at this point)
[18:58] <wafflejock> Arturo, you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:58] <nacc> Arturo: what do you mean by "main os"?
[18:58] <wafflejock> also second nacc
[18:59] <Arturo> main distro
[18:59] <nacc> Arturo: you mean you want to try the default Ubuntu?
[18:59] <Arturo> yep
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> Arturo  http://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[18:59] <nacc> Arturo: kubuntu is a supported flavor of ubuntu
[18:59] <nacc> Arturo: all the same packages, etc., just different default install
[19:00] <wafflejock> Arturo, yeah you would want to be on the latest point release of 14.04 even if you don't want to jump to 16.04 but 16.04 is LTS as well (quite a bit of changes though)
[19:00] <Arturo> I know, but I just wanted to install ubuntu with kde, I'd like to use the plain ubuntu, which one do you guys have?
[19:01] <nacc> IMO, ubuntu with kde = kubuntu, or might as well
[19:01] <Jakey3> what is the best way of securing a production server
[19:01] <Jakey3> is ssh with ssh-key enough
[19:01] <Jakey3> does double hop help
[19:01] <wafflejock> Jakey3, depends on what's open and what's installed
[19:01] <nacc> Jakey3: that 'secures' ssh -- doesn't mean your server is secured
[19:01] <Arturo> wafflejock: so do you recommend me to jump to 16.04? I heard it has only 9 months of updates
[19:02] <nacc> Arturo: that is incorrect
[19:02] <xxxx> again.. ubuntu doesn't turn off, doesn't reboot
[19:02] <nacc> Arturo: 16.04 is also an LTS (so 5 years)
[19:02] <wafflejock> yeah !lts
[19:02] <Arturo> oki
[19:02] <wafflejock> !lts
[19:02] <Jakey3> wafflejock, nacc, what would you recommend if a lamp stack was on the server
[19:03] <Arturo> so... if I install 16.04 how can I install KDE on it? I know kubuntu exists but I'd like to try ubuntu :)
[19:03] <wafflejock> Jakey3, there are no silver bullets to security but look at the various services you have running and can google about general linux hardening or hardening of those services to help keep things more or less locked down
[19:03] <nacc> Arturo: i mean, i'd suggest installing 'kubuntu-desktop'
[19:03] <Arturo> btw that's the one I have, 16.04 LTS
[19:03] <nacc> Arturo: at which point you now have kubuntu, hence my point
[19:04] <wafflejock> Jakey3, I like to at least have fail2ban running to block IPs that are knocking on the SSH door too much but really depends on the particulars of what you're running how you should secure that
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> Arturo  as suggested above: sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[19:04] <nacc> Arturo: the only reason to go that route than to just insall kubuntu is if you want to try unity (or some other flavor) simultaneously
[19:04] <wafflejock> Jakey3, for example if you're running wordpress on the stack would look into hardening that as well
[19:04] <Jakey3> wafflejock, agreed
[19:04] <Jakey3> what about a double hop
[19:05] <akik> Arturo: there's a long lasting bug when going the ubuntu (unity) way to kde
[19:05] <akik> Arturo: it's best the you install kubuntu. it's 100% as ubuntu as anything else
[19:05] <Jakey3> ]with the second server only alowing ssh from the first
[19:05] <Jakey3> ]server ip
[19:06] <Arturo> ok, I'll use kubuntu
[19:06] <Arturo> just curious what flavor do you have?
[19:07] <wafflejock> Jakey3, not really familiar with that technique of mitigation but locking the connection to particular IPs is a good idea, on AWS they have a firewall config where you can set that up in a web interface which makes it easy to fix if your IP changes
[19:07] <akik> Arturo: i'm using kubuntu 14.04
[19:07] <nacc> Arturo: everyone runs whatever they want to, not really relevant in the support channel
[19:07] <Arturo> nacc: lol
[19:07] <Jakey3> yep
[19:07] <Arturo> akik: thanks
[19:10] <Arturo> I have a question since I'm new to linux, if I learn the commands for ubuntu, would they be useful for the future for kali linux?
[19:10] <Arturo> or other distro?
[19:10] <wafflejock> Jakey3, if you're using SSL/https would make sure you look into disabling any protocols that are known to have vulnerabilities too, you may also want to consider using ntop or something similar to monitor traffic on the server, can help to see if the server is unexpectedly talking to someone a lot
[19:10] <maracha> yes
[19:10] <maracha> they are the same (bash)
[19:11] <Jakey3> wafflejock, yep thanks
[19:12] <fajker>  f
[19:14] <imtershaaker>  f
[19:24] <hellohelo> I'm not sure if anyone from yesterday is around
[19:25] <hellohelo> but I just switched to a ssds with a fresh install, and migrated a lot of my old setup to the new ssd
[19:26] <hellohelo> with apt-clone, etc... but making sure everthing ran correctly, I did apt-get update and apt-get -f install
[19:26] <hellohelo> and this happened: http://pastebin.com/dfTMAZ1k
[19:27] <hellohelo> and an internal error system dialog popped up. what should I do to clean this up?
[19:31] <Jakey3> can anyone see a problem with With wrt Workspaces, a potential alternative would be to run a small linux instance on aws VPN into it and then vpn &  ssh (with keys) into the the production server. On the server being ssh'd into only allow ssh connections from a specific server with firewall management?
[19:32] <_AxS_> hey all -- ive got an ubuntu 14.04 box that's failing to configure networking.  my interfaces file is complex (two bonds, some bridges) but it all seems straight-forward and i can't find any errors.  The big issue i have right now is i can't find any info on how its failing.
[19:35] <_AxS_> is the detailed activity that 'networking' does logged anywhere?
[19:39] <hellohelo> no one's around huh?
[19:40] <wlp1s1> nope
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> hellohelo  keep your question in one line an repeat it every 10-15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[19:42] <wafflejock> _AxS_, good to include what your lsb_release -a info is since logging I believe is different with systemd vs before but this may help https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/NetworkManager/Debugging
[19:42] <i_and_i> hello i cannot help, but i have read your error report
[19:43] <_AxS_> wafflejock: is NetworkManager what parses /etc/network/interfaces ?  i thought it used its own config
[19:43] <i_and_i> it looks like some packages need to be installed first
[19:43] <xangua> Is it normal a black screen after OEM install?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | xangua
[19:44] <xangua> MonkeyDus I booted fine the very first time into the temporal OEM user and now booted into a black screen but I can see the cursor
[19:45] <xangua> Does that still counts as "black screen"?
[19:47] <wafflejock> _AxS_, yeah always a bit fuzzy for me too pretty good explanation in the answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/1786/what-is-the-difference-between-network-manager-and-ifconfig-ifup-etc
[19:48] <_AxS_> wafflejock: ok thanks, so as i thought, NetworkManager is not being used here.
[19:51] <yocs0000> hi! I have a very old laptop, I was wondering which flavour of ubuntu could work well on it. Just to surf internet, use emails and edit on google doc. Or is it better too install android or chromium OS?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> yocs0000  lubuntu
[19:51] <wafflejock> _AxS_, ifquery might help, haven't used it myself I don't think http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ifup.htm
[19:52] <minitrue> or ubuntu+i3 and uninstalling some stuff
[19:52] <_AxS_> wafflejock: thx, will look into it
[19:53] <yocs0000> MonkeyDust: tried that in the past .... did not really get into it .... still a bit too heavy, and no real advantage. Anything lighter?
[19:53] <nicomachus> yocs0000: lighter than lubuntu?
[19:53] <nicomachus> maybe ubuntu server...
[19:56] <xangua> this is what I got after reboot (first OEM temporal account worked with no issues) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IwxuWKKd/irccloudcapture57276515.jpg
[19:58] <wafflejock> yocs0000, is there android for x86?
[19:58] <yocs0000> wafflejock: yep .... well, there was
[19:58] <wafflejock> yocs0000, my guess is the worst part of the experience of trying to browse the web on old hardware will be having a GPU and acceleration or not for video
[19:59] <yocs0000> nicomachus: yes ....
[19:59] <yocs0000> wafflejock: yes
[19:59] <akik> wafflejock: look into remix os
[19:59] <wafflejock> akik, interesting thanks
[20:00] <ioria> xangua, using AHCI not IDE in bios, right ?
[20:01] <yocs0000> MonkeyDust: nicomachus: lubuntu has quite hefty reuirements http://lubuntu.net/
[20:02] <ikonia> no it doesnt
[20:02] <xangua> ioria: what should I use? I restored BIOS setting to detail so don't currently know
[20:02] <ikonia> yocs0000: define "light"
[20:02] <ioria> xangua,  in SATA menu
[20:02] <wafflejock> yocs0000, yeah think the problem is browser itself needs lots of RAM etc
[20:02] <ioria> xangua,  AHCI
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> !mini | yocs0000 or try this
[20:02] <wafflejock> yocs0000, the system underneath doesn't really need much
[20:03] <ioria> yocs0000, hefty ? lubuntu ?
[20:04] <ioria> yocs0000, what's your specs ?
[20:04] <yocs0000> ioria: compare it to puppy linux or macpuppy ....
[20:04] <yocs0000> ioria: toshiba nb305
[20:05] <ioria> yocs0000, oh, yes then check Kolibri http://kolibrios.org/en/
[20:05] <yocs0000> ioria: http://www.toshiba.co.uk/discontinued-products/toshiba-nb305-106/
[20:05] <ioria> yocs0000, kidding
[20:05] <wafflejock> yocs0000, my browser is using 4.4G right now...
[20:06] <yocs0000> ioria: actually ....
[20:06] <ioria> yocs0000, lubuntu with fluxbox should be ok tho
[20:08] <yocs0000> ioria: I will try ....
[20:08] <ioria> yocs0000, ok
[20:08] <nicomachus> wafflejock: ram usage from your browser absolutely depends on how much is available.
[20:09] <nicomachus> yocs0000: have you considered expanding that out to 2gb ram?
[20:09] <nicomachus> should be cheap.
[20:09] <yocs0000> I would have preferred something very web based ....
[20:09] <yocs0000> nicomachus: yep ....
[20:09] <nicomachus> and that would be a huge improvement in performance
[20:10] <ioria> in this case, the atom is the issue i'am afraid
[20:10] <nicomachus> right
[20:10] <nicomachus> that architecture is just touch to work with
[20:11] <nicomachus> s/touch/tough/
[20:11] <yocs0000> nicomachus: yes I think so ioria ....
[20:11] <yocs0000> currently windows 10, what a pile of crap ....
[20:11] <ioria> yocs0000, it runs ?
[20:12] <sun45261> hi guys, I accidentally deleted my /etc/defaults/hostapd file
[20:12] <sun45261> anyone knows how to restore it?
[20:12] <nicomachus> wow, it runs windows 10??
[20:12] <sun45261> i tried reinstalling the hostapd package via apt but still lost
[20:12] <nicomachus> !restore | sun45261
[20:12] <nicomachus> oops
[20:13] <nicomachus> !recover | sun45261
[20:13] <sun45261> I deleted it because i messed it up and thought deleting it would cause hostapd to generate a new clean one
[20:13] <sun45261> so recovering the messed file wont help much
[20:14] <sun45261> :/
[20:14] <xangua> ioria: keeps showing the same message, this is a gigabyte BIOS
[20:14] <yocs0000> ioria: yep
[20:14] <yocs0000> nicomachus: yes
[20:14] <nicomachus> that's impressive.
[20:14] <nicomachus> sun45261: just create a new one
[20:14] <xangua> After changing to AHCI
[20:14] <nicomachus> touch /etc/defaults/hostapd
[20:15] <ioria> xangua,  oh...
[20:15] <sun45261> nicomachus but the default one wasn't empty
[20:15] <yocs0000> have been running it like a year .... I really hate it and it is so slow ....
[20:15] <sun45261> will that cause a problem?
[20:16] <nicomachus> sun45261: what were you using the hostapd for?
[20:16] <nicomachus> sun45261: creating a wifi ap?
[20:16] <sun45261> yes
[20:16] <nicomachus> sun45261: use this guide to setup a new one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint#Setup_hostapd.2C_port_forwarding.2C_haveged.2C_and_dnsmasq
[20:17] <ioria> xangua,  AHCI was selected, when you installed the OS ?
[20:17] <yocs0000> how is this kolibri ioria?
[20:17] <sun45261> nicomachus: ty i'll give it a try
[20:17] <ioria> yocs0000,  ridiculous
[20:17] <nicomachus> sun45261: ##networking could be helpful here as well
[20:17] <nicomachus> not my forte.
[20:18] <ioria> yocs0000,  no offence
[20:18] <xangua> ioria: no, I restored to defaults settings and ide was selected, booted without issues into OEM temporal account a few days ago
[20:19] <xangua> Used it for half a day, installed additional software, updates
[20:19] <yocs0000> ioria: no no I never heard of it before .... is it like an experiment?
[20:20] <ioria> xangua,  i think you need it enabled while you install ... but i could be wrong ...  the hd is ok ? the sata cables ? the ports ? have you tried switching ?
[20:20] <ioria> yocs0000,  no experiment .... just very basic
[20:20] <allard-alfa> hi there
[20:21] <sun45261> nicomachus: thank you very much
[20:22] <xangua> ioria: no, I was reading I might need a new cable but hope the HDD is OK... Computer was turned off since February
[20:22] <nicomachus> sun45261: np
[20:22] <allard-alfa> guys, I feel alone :c
[20:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> ...
[20:22] <nicomachus> allard-alfa: the guys in ##chat would love to chat with you.
[20:23] <allard-alfa> okay)
[20:23] <ioria> xangua,  i see ... i'd try a new install with AHCI
[20:26] <blazeme8> hi, how do I found out how long a package will remain available in apt-get?
[20:26] <ioria> blazeme8, meaning ?
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> blazeme8  with apt show
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> blazeme8  like    apt show firefox
[20:27] <akkonrad> I've created script that replaces some conetnt of file with passed argument
[20:28] <blazeme8> Hmm that works MonkeyDust but not exactly like i mean
[20:28] <akkonrad> but when trying to trigger that script with ssh, it complains that something is not defined
[20:28] <Ben64> blazeme8: then explain what you mean
[20:28] <xangua> ioria: everything seems to be OK inside, just some dust... Since February
[20:28] <blazeme8> ioria: I would like to find out when specific packages will be removed from apt-get due to age
[20:28] <akkonrad> I get error: sed: -e expression #1, char 20: unknown option to `s'
[20:28] <blazeme8> Ben64: ^
[20:28] <xangua> I got a new message now
[20:28] <nicomachus> akkonrad: check with ##bash
[20:28] <Ben64> blazeme8: packages don't get removed from an ubuntu release
[20:28] <ioria> blazeme8, ah.... no idea sy
[20:30] <blazeme8> Ben64: aren't versions of packages removed periodically?
[20:30] <Ben64> that's up to the mirror
[20:31] <blazeme8> Ok, so for the official mirror?
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> blazeme8  what makes you ask that?
[20:32] <blazeme8> MonkeyDust: I have a project that builds against a somewhat old version of a package, and am deciding if i should port it to build against a new version or continue on
[20:32] <ioria> xangua, which is ?
[20:32] <ioria> akkonrad, wrong sed command i guess
[20:32] <nicomachus> blazeme8: probably better to port it anyway to future-proof.
[20:33] <blazeme8> nicomachus: you're right, though that task competes with other priorities...
[20:34] <xangua> ioria: could not write /var/cache/debconf/config.dat-new: read only filesystem
[20:34] <Ben64> requiring an outdated version of something probably isn't the way to go
[20:34] <nicomachus> blazeme8: /shrug
[20:34] <nicomachus> oops
[20:34] <ioria> xangua,  that on boot ?
[20:34] <akkonrad> ioria, I'm asking on bash already - command is fine when called in certain circumstances .
[20:34] <blazeme8> Yep
[20:34] <blazeme8> thanks guys!
[20:35] <xangua> ioria: the same error in my last pic, with that additional line
[20:37] <ioria> xangua,  i have a /var/cache/debconf/config.dat   (root rw - r-r) but not  config.dat-new ....
[20:37] <josdotso> Is there a place for Ubuntu Cloud questions ?
[20:38] <Bruto> Alguien que hable español
[20:38] <Pici> !es | Bruto
[20:39] <xangua> ioria: sorry that was now the exact error, I'm already booting into live xubuntu with AHCI enabled
[20:39] <phos1> I am running into an issue where a script will be running, and it will just suddenly fail with internal server error. No logs in apache logs, no errors. Just internal server error. It’s Ubuntu 14 LTS on Amazon e2c. Any ideas?
[20:39] <ioria> xangua,   so you can check the permissions on that file
[20:39] <phos1> I have been fighting with it for days and am totally stuck
[20:40] <ioria> xangua,   but read only not a good sign
[20:40] <Bruto> funciono gracias..
[20:41] <nicomachus> !es | Bruto
[20:42] <josdotso> Anyone a PXE-booting expert? :)
[20:43] <xangua> ioria: right now the installer says(translated from Spanish): error while copying files to HDD
[20:43] <ioria> xangua,   i see
[20:43] <xangua> ioria: error 30, read only system '/target/bin'
[20:44] <xangua> Says the cause might be a bad disc :-\
[20:44] <ioria> xangua,   time for a smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[20:47] <ubuntu136> hi
[20:47] <ioria> xangua,  maybe the iso, tho
[20:48] <ioria> xangua,  check it and the media
[20:49] <thecha> if you got systemsettings / drives and create a new drive with format and encrypt it in ext4 then how save is this encryption?
[20:49] <thecha> is this pretty good privacy?
[20:49] <xangua> ioria: pastebin.com/2A6nG0SK
[20:50] <xangua> I've used the same USB to install both ancient and my new laptop (Lubuntu and Ubuntu)
[20:51] <ioria> xangua,  not an expert of this, but not PASSED
[20:52] <ioria> xangua,  no sorry yes
[20:53] <xangua> Says just "Passed"
[20:55] <ioria> xangua,  can you try another hd on that system ?
[20:55] <xangua> Another port or HDD? ioria just have this one
[20:55] <ioria> xangua,  another disk, i mean :(
[20:56] <ubuntu136> why my ubuntu one can't run?
[20:56] <xangua> ! Details | ubuntu136
[20:56] <xangua> :-(
[20:57] <ubuntu136> why my ubuntu one can't run? ubuntu 12 .04 lts
[20:57] <wafflejock> ubuntu136, http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
[20:58] <xangua> ubuntu136: there is no more Ubuntu one, for files at least
[21:02] <nicomachus> xangua: there is an account signin thing because of snaps
[21:02] <nicomachus> it's awful
[21:02] <nicomachus> and "supposedly" a "bug"
[21:02] <ikonia> nicomachus: has that finally been confirmed now ?
[21:03] <nicomachus> ikonia: I know it exists, idk if the bug is confirmed. I've seen some its a bug, some say it's a feature
[21:03] <nicomachus> seen some say*
[21:03] <nicomachus> or at least a necessary evil
[21:16] <giany> hi, how can I make an apparmor profile persist after reboot?
[21:16] <ikonia> it shouldn't drop the profile on reboot
[21:17] <scw-aa> hi, looking for some help on how to add a keypair from puttygen in windows onto my user in ubuntu xenial
[21:17] <pseudonymous> Hi - does anyone know of any programs for creating cheat sheets fairly easily  ?
[21:17] <ikonia> scw-aa: you need the pagent daemon
[21:17] <ikonia> the same as windows
[21:17] <ikonia> scw-aa: however - you could just use ssh and not use putty and load it as a key
[21:18] <ikonia> pseudonymous: cheat sheets ?
[21:18] <giany> ikonia: for some reason after I reboot the profile is not found here : /sys/kernel/security/apparmor/profiles
[21:18] <ikonia> giany: it won't be in sys
[21:18] <ikonia> giany: sys is dynamic
[21:18] <ikonia> giany: you should have it on the physical hard disk for loading
[21:18] <Jakey3> how secure is amazon workspaces compare to openvpn into a ubuntu server?
[21:18] <pseudonymous> ikonia: yea - I'm getting back into emacs more. But the extra key combos I'll need to remember to be proficient are more than I can just expect to remember straight off the bat- Hence I want a cheat sheet to remind me
[21:19] <scw-aa> i meant as in, i already added a keypair to root, then i added a new user with adduser new, now i'm wondering how i will stick the keys onto my ubuntu vps
[21:19] <scw-aa> the ones i generated on windows with puttygen
[21:20] <ikonia> pseudonymous: any text editor will do it
[21:20] <scw-aa> i should be able to ssh in as root and add it into the users directory somehow yes?
[21:25] <ikonia> scw-aa: root is disabled by default
[21:27] <Michael-Dot> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9cg8ZXscw-bVGtpRjREbFYzZDA
[21:27] <ikonia> Michael-Dot: ?
[21:30] <nicomachus> uhh... free crash bandikoot?
[21:31] <nicomachus> except it's probably more malicious than that
[21:31] <OverCoder> Hey guys
[21:31] <OverCoder> I've been setting up inteface bonding
[21:32] <OverCoder> The bond0 interface goes up, and cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0 shows good stuff
[21:32] <OverCoder> but, no access to neither internet nor local network
[21:32] <OverCoder> here's my config https://pybin.pw/XImaXin8
[21:32] <_AxS_> OverCoder: what's it plugged into?
[21:32] <OverCoder> what's plugged?
[21:33] <_AxS_> OverCoder: the nic's youre bonding together
[21:33] <OverCoder> One is internal wifi, named wlp4s0, and Ethernet, named enp2s0
[21:33] <_AxS_> OverCoder: OH.  yeah you can't do that.
[21:34] <_AxS_> OverCoder: you can't bond random interfaces.
[21:34] <OverCoder> :O
[21:34] <OverCoder> can I bond two wifi interfaces?
[21:34] <OverCoder> I can do two wifis
[21:34] <_AxS_> maybe, though bonding will generally baulk if their "line" speeds differ, and since that can vary a lot with wifi...
[21:35] <OverCoder> how much is a lot
[21:35] <OverCoder> basically is the same ISP, same signal strength, same everything, except connection max speed, and of course, different networks
[21:35] <OverCoder> I mean ping should be very similar
[21:35] <_AxS_> OverCoder: well, my link jumps up and down to 50% of its line speed over the course of a minute, just sitting on my desk here
[21:36] <_AxS_> Oh, the other thing is, you can't bond two different networks together.
[21:37] <OverCoder> o
[21:37] <_AxS_> bonding is specifically for combining two physical links on the same ethernet network.
[21:37] <OverCoder> so basically my approach is all wrong
[21:37] <nicomachus> yes
[21:37] <OverCoder> I just have to internet connections, want to use them together
[21:37] <OverCoder> eh
[21:38] <_AxS_> I think so yes.  You might want to look into "multipath"..
[21:38] <nicomachus> OverCoder: but why....?
[21:38]  * OverCoder googles
[21:38] <OverCoder> nicomachus: because I hvave two internet connections
[21:38] <nicomachus> oh well that explains it
[21:38] <Ben64> make them both ethernet
[21:38]  * nicomachus throws his hands up
[21:39] <OverCoder> Ben64, each on their floor
[21:39] <OverCoder> can't put cables
[21:40] <OverCoder> nicomachus: explains what
[21:43] <_AxS_> OverCoder: so here's the thing -- most tcp traffic cares about the route it follows, so a tcp session will usually want to come back on the same ip address it went out on.  this is generally not an easy thing to do if you're trying to load balance all of your internet usage.
[21:43] <OerHeks> "basically is the same ISP" makes me wonder what the benefit would be
[21:44] <_AxS_> OerHeks: i'm guessing he wants to use these two 10Mbs links to get an effective 20Mbps or something like that
[21:44] <ikonia> it's not going to work
[21:45] <ikonia> as they will be different ISP's
[21:45] <ikonia> so you're not going to be able to do anything like ecmp to re-assmble packets IF they where split
[21:46] <scw-aa> overcode why not use them separately?
[21:46] <ikonia> why use two
[21:46] <ikonia> just accept the limitations of your connectivity at that location
[21:47] <uruk7> i dont have ubuntu software center how to get it?
[21:47] <scw-aa> well, failover or something having 2 connections can have its uses
[21:47] <scw-aa> but using 2 as one, i dont see the point in that
[21:47] <skomorokh> Hiya... any idea how updating from 16.04 -> 16.10 might have messed up my DNS? resolv.conf has the right 127.0.1.1 (probably dnsmasq?) and "dig somelocalname" works fine and reports 127.0.1.1 as the server it got the ip from. But "ping somelocalname" fails the lookup as does ssh and nfs.
[21:48] <ikonia> scw-aa: failoer - totally over the top for a home machine
[21:48] <skomorokh> Or in general where ping and ssh might get their DNS from that would differ from host and nslookup and dig?
[21:48] <nicomachus> OverCoder: I just see no benefit in that whatsoever
[21:48] <ikonia> more effort to maintain
[21:48] <OverCoder> _AxS_: yeah I see but I want to uh
[21:48] <nicomachus> too much work for 0 payoff
[21:48] <OverCoder> _AxS_: put a download manager and seek all the speed
[21:49] <ikonia> OverCoder: not going to happen
[21:49] <ikonia> OverCoder: you have 10mb - thats what you've got
[21:49] <OverCoder> it happens on Windows
[21:49] <scw-aa> didnt know it was a home con
[21:49] <ikonia> it really didn't
[21:49] <nicomachus> OverCoder: then use a download manager that grabs files from alternate sources to increase speed. Using 2 connections isn't going to help
[21:49] <OverCoder> ikonia: I have TWO internet connections
[21:49] <OverCoder> and TWO wifi adapaters pointing at TWO different routers
[21:49] <ikonia> OverCoder: yes, I gathered that, hence why I said not going to happen
[21:49] <OverCoder> why
[21:50] <nicomachus> !info axel | OverCoder
[21:50] <scw-aa> you cant add two 10mbps connections and expect them to work like 1 20mbps xdd
[21:50] <OverCoder> nicomachus: wat
[21:50] <OverCoder> scw-aa: ikonia, do I just go switch to my dual-booted windows and show you that ._.
[21:50] <nicomachus> OverCoder: it's a download manager that uses multiple sources to download file parts from different sources, and speed up the download.
[21:50] <OverCoder> It's basically load-balancing the connections randomly over two interfaces
[21:50] <ikonia> OverCoder: it's not
[21:51] <nicomachus> if you want to speed up downloads, do it that way. adding 2 10Mbps connects together won't do anything.
[21:51] <OverCoder> nicomachus: yes but does that automagically work without any sort of load balancing on linux
[21:51] <ikonia> OverCoder: it may bond but you will not get the speed you seek
[21:51] <nicomachus> OverCoder: yes.
[21:51] <ikonia> it doesn't work like that
[21:51] <OverCoder> :o
[21:51]  * OverCoder tries things
[21:51] <OverCoder> sec
[21:51] <ikonia> OverCoder: you can't use bonding for that
[21:51] <_AxS_> OverCoder: layer 2 load balancing is only to help with the server-to-switch.  for what you want to do , you need to do it layer 5 or higher
[21:51] <scw-aa> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:52] <nicomachus> OverCoder: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/speed-your-downloads-axel
[21:52] <OverCoder> nicomachus: I just ran axel, with both internet connections
[21:53] <OverCoder> uses one internet only
[21:53] <nicomachus> OverCoder: it's only going to work over one connection....
[21:53] <OverCoder> _AxS_: scw-aa, either me describing my problem wrong or something
[21:53]  * OverCoder googles something
[21:53] <nicomachus> that's what I've been trying to tell you
[21:53] <nicomachus> and we don't need all the /me does somethings
[21:53] <OverCoder> nicomachus: and what I've been trying to tell you all the time is that I *did* load balance that
[21:53] <OverCoder> on Windows
[21:54] <heston> how should I go about troubleshooting my ubuntu 16.04 ubuntu installation? It tends to completely freeze up when using google maps
[21:54] <_AxS_> OverCoder: but windows didn't load balance this by making a virtual interface that bonded two real ones.
[21:54] <ikonia> OverCoder: you've not
[21:54] <ikonia> OverCoder: you've bonded an interface and you think you're load balancing
[21:54] <ikonia> OverCoder: you can bond interfaces but it will not use both pipes like that
[21:54] <OverCoder> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/523076551/dispatch-the-internet-faster
[21:54] <OverCoder> I used Connectify Dispatch
[21:55] <_AxS_> OverCoder: that would be a layer4 or layer5 solution. you need a linux version of that
[21:55] <OverCoder> ikonia: fine. why wouldn't it
[21:55] <OverCoder> If we have two separate connections, what's wrong with routing each on an interface
[21:55] <OverCoder> what's a layer4 layer5
[21:55] <scw-aa> the guys face in that dispatch infomercial had me sold
[21:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
[21:56] <NoImNotNineVolt> osi layers model
[21:56] <_AxS_> OverCoder: that you do not understand the OSI network model and what each layer does, is the issue as to why you don't know why it doesn't.
[21:56] <ikonia> OverCoder: what is the default route on your machine with two cards
[21:56] <ikonia> OverCoder: explain that - and think about it
[21:56] <NoImNotNineVolt> you can't understand networking without understanding osi
[21:56] <OverCoder> ikonia: why would there be a default route
[21:56] <OverCoder> why not randomize per connection
[21:56] <ikonia> OverCoder: there has to be
[21:56]  * OverCoder reads on OSI
[21:57] <ikonia> OverCoder: how would your machine know to go to "the internet"
[21:57] <ikonia> (if there wasn't a default route)
[21:57] <OverCoder> ikonia: right, so you're very basically trying to tell me that I haven't been merging my internet connections for the past year on Windows and grabbing a fancy download speed over my download manager
[21:57] <OverCoder> okay.
[21:57] <ikonia> OverCoder: not with the way you said (bonding two cards)
[21:58] <_AxS_> OverCoder: no, we're saying that what you're doing to do that is at the application level, not at the physical / link / ip level.
[21:58] <ikonia> OverCoder: it's technically possible - just not with the way you are saying you are doing it
[21:58] <uruk> how to install in ubuntu 16.04 ubuntu-center --> http://pastebin.com/raw/ZfFpqHvB
[21:59] <scw-aa> OverCoder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
[22:00] <OverCoder> whoops I lost my connection for a while
[22:00] <OverCoder> yeah I'm back
[22:01] <OverCoder> ikonia: let me google what does "bonding" exactly means, but all I know is that Connectify Dispatch was doing something on the software level
[22:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> a randomizing default route would be a great way to make an admin's head explode :P
[22:01] <eiger> who did 9/11?
[22:01] <OverCoder> I just connect to different wifi networks, start it, and it all works
[22:01] <ikonia> OverCoder: thats a an application
[22:01] <ikonia> OverCoder: you said earlier you bonded interfaces in windows
[22:01] <ikonia> OverCoder: they are two very different things
[22:01] <DArqueBishop> !ot | eiger
[22:01] <_AxS_> OverCoder: right - its an application-level thing, not something low-level like bonding.
[22:01] <ramsub07> why doesn't my system time change when I use VPN ?
[22:01] <_AxS_> ramsub07: ?
[22:02] <nicomachus> ramsub07: because your system isn't moving....
[22:02] <OverCoder> wouldn't just connectify dispatch *bond* interfaces? I thought it does os
[22:02] <_AxS_> OverCoder: no.
[22:02] <OverCoder> so *
[22:02] <OverCoder> aw
[22:02] <ramsub07> nicomachus, _AxS_: whats the difference between me going to a place and using a VPN ? I'll be using their public IP, DNS etc..
[22:02] <OverCoder> So what can I do to achieve a similar effect on the *application level*
[22:02] <scw-aa> You can bond 2 interfaces just fine but your os would have no idea what to do with it properly
[22:02] <nicomachus> ramsub07: you wouldn't be using their public IP.
[22:02] <ikonia> OverCoder: use an application
[22:02] <OverCoder> I uh, I don't really care whichever the way I combine my internet connections, I just want them combined, however.
[22:02] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, there's nothing stopping an application from creating a virtual interface which handles its own routing over other existing interfaces.
[22:02] <scw-aa> that's why you do it on a application level
[22:03] <nicomachus> Your public IP would be whatever your VPN is
[22:03] <OverCoder> ikonia: as if I found a single one for LInux
[22:03] <scw-aa> it's pretty simple
[22:03] <OverCoder> Linux *
[22:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> OverCoder: if you want to do this yourself, you'll need to have some understanding of how to do it.
[22:03] <OverCoder> scw-aa: hmm
[22:03] <luca_> msg NickServ IDENTIFY Kalgon ErnestGulbis
[22:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> just because something is an "application" doesn't necessarily mean its interacting at layer5.
[22:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> luca_: time to change your password :P
[22:04] <OverCoder> wait, I have some bunch of servers, with high speed internets. Can I just do some magic by setting up my own VPN and.. idk.. do something?
[22:04] <scw-aa> well, along with the os that is just doing on a software layer wouldnt work alone i think
[22:04] <ramsub07> my question is, if i move to London, my system identifies that and goes behind by an hour. But from Paris, if I connect to a VPN at london, that doesn't happen
[22:04] <ramsub07> could someone explain me this?
[22:05] <scw-aa> becuase using a vpn wont change your system time
[22:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> OverCoder: it's not clear what you're asking. yes, it is possible to set up a vpn and "do something" over it. that's not the same as bonding multiple nics.
[22:05] <nicomachus> ramsub07: right. because your system knows where you are, but anyone seeing your public IP would think you are wherever your VPN is pointed to.
[22:05] <scw-aa> its redirecting traffic
[22:06] <nicomachus> ramsub07: regardless, this is really a question for ##networking not #ubuntu
[22:06] <NoImNotNineVolt> i disagree. it's more a question about how ubuntu automatically sets your timezone.
[22:06] <NoImNotNineVolt> clearly not be geolocating your public ip, it seems.
[22:06] <NoImNotNineVolt> s/be/by/
[22:07] <scw-aa> it doesn't?
[22:07] <NoImNotNineVolt> it doesn't automatically set your timezone?
[22:07] <nicomachus> NoImNotNineVolt: no, you do that on install. and then can change it with tzdata
[22:07] <scw-aa> i meant as a answer to your Q
[22:07] <ramsub07> when i am not connected to internet, why don't i see change in time ? Why does it happen only after connecting to the net?
[22:07] <nicomachus> Ubuntu never does it "automatically"
[22:07] <scw-aa> it doesnt by geolocating?
[22:07] <NoImNotNineVolt> so then it seems ramsub07's system has been compromised, as his timezone setting changes when he changes timezones.
[22:07] <skinux> How long should it take to install Ubuntu Xenial via USB?
[22:08] <phr33k3r> skinux took me about 30 mins for usb install of ubuntu mate
[22:08] <_AxS_> is it the system timezone that's changing? or something in i.e. firefox?
[22:08] <nicomachus> NoImNotNineVolt: compromised is a strong word, and probalby the wrong one
[22:08] <NoImNotNineVolt> ramsub07: your clock doesn't run without an internet connection? your system sounds very broken.
[22:08] <skinux> I would be installing with Unity.
[22:08] <scw-aa> depends on the usb, but all from 10 to 30?
[22:08] <scw-aa> usb / hdd
[22:08] <ramsub07> NoImNotNineVolt: i'm using 16.04 and clock works without internet
[22:08] <nicomachus> NoImNotNineVolt: getting very close to FUD territory
[22:08] <ramsub07> i didn't mean that
[22:08] <ramsub07> i meant it doesn't get updaed without internet
[22:09] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: Stop speaking nonsense
[22:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> what does "updated" mean to you?
[22:09] <skinux> I believe my USB drive is USB 2.0.
[22:09] <ramsub07> NoImNotNineVolt: are you a bot?
[22:09] <scw-aa> xd
[22:09] <chalcedony> my husband's computer is only seeing part of the keys on the kepboard, so  he can't log in. on Ubuntu 16.04 - we tried with two ps2 keyboards
[22:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> i don't think i am. but if the value displayed on your clock is changing as time passes, then your clock is updating.
[22:09] <scw-aa> chalc, clarify please
[22:09] <ikonia> it's really simple
[22:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> do you mean that your clock isn't synchronizing with ntp servers if you don't have an internet connection?
[22:10] <ramsub07> yes
[22:10] <scw-aa> what do you mean with seeing part of the keys
[22:10] <skinux> Right now, I need to try to find unneeded software that's installed and remove it, but it may come down to just reinstalling. I've used almost all 100G of Ubuntu partition is my problem.
[22:10] <_AxS_> NoImNotNineVolt: is that because you were programmed without the knowledge that you're a program?
[22:10] <ikonia> your clocks time zone is set by your time zone, ntp queries servers for that time zone
[22:10] <ramsub07> _AxS_: XD
[22:10] <nicomachus> ^
[22:10] <ikonia> using a vpn does not change your time zone
[22:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> _AxS_: this is entirely possible. i'm a fan of pkd novels :P
[22:10] <ramsub07> ikonia: how does my timezone gets identified at first?
[22:10] <ikonia> so you're asking a time server for your correct timezone time over the VPN and it's reporting back your correct time
[22:10] <ramsub07> is it using GPS?
[22:10] <z999> how can i find out the version i have?
[22:10] <tgm4883> ramsub07: IP address
[22:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> ramsub07: ntp, network time protocol, requires network connectivity between a client and the server.
[22:10] <ramsub07> tgm4883: no
[22:10] <ikonia> ramsub07: geo location normally
[22:11] <tgm4883> ramsub07: yes
[22:11] <scw-aa> as i said it doesn't but it depends on how the site you are visiting handles your connection info
[22:11] <ramsub07> tgm4883: if IP address, why not when i'm using a VPN ?
[22:11] <ramsub07> that's my question
[22:11] <wedgie> it doesn't ask for a timezone. It gets the universal time and then your system displays it offseted by the proper amount for your timezone
[22:11] <ikonia> dhcp servers will often issue time zones
[22:11] <tgm4883> ramsub07: it's trivial to say "if using a VPN, don't update time"
[22:11] <ikonia> or time servers with the time zone set
[22:11] <ikonia> I should say
[22:11] <nicomachus> again, this is definitely a ##networking question at this point
[22:11] <ramsub07> how do you indentify?
[22:11] <z999> how can i find the ubuntu version i have?
[22:12] <scw-aa> lets put it this way, there is more then 1 way to do it
[22:12] <nicomachus> z999: lsb_release -a
[22:12] <nicomachus> z999: or cat /etc/issue
[22:12] <abhishek> hi
[22:12] <abhishek> any ideas on this http://askubuntu.com/questions/861085/possible-missing-firmware?
[22:12] <x01>  
[22:12] <ikonia> this better not be the intel one again
[22:13] <z999> are there trojans for ubuntu?
[22:13] <ikonia> abhishek: why do you post a question in askubuntu then expect IRC to answer it
[22:13] <scw-aa> xd
[22:13] <chalcedony> evn trying with a PS2 keybord, it doesnt see alphaneumeric key presses - he can't log in
[22:13] <ikonia> x01: there can be exploits and risks, yes
[22:13] <nicomachus> abhishek: found by googling the error message: http://askubuntu.com/questions/811453/w-possible-missing-firmware-for-module-i915-bpo-when-updating-initramfs
[22:13] <z999> are there such a thing as trojans for ubuntu?
[22:13] <ikonia> I knew it would be the intel one
[22:13] <ikonia> it's a warning - ignore it
[22:13] <scw-aa> z999, it's not as easily infected as windows but yes it does exist
[22:14] <z999> ok
[22:14] <skomorokh> How do ping and ssh look up domains? It seems not as simple as just /etc/resolv.conf as I have the correct DNS there and host/dig work but nothing else seems to?
[22:14] <tgm4883> why wouldn't there be trojans for ubuntu?
[22:14] <morf> z999: sure there is pretty much malware for any vulnerability ...
[22:14] <ikonia> z999: there are risks and exploits, defining a "trojan" is hard
[22:14] <ikonia> ssh look up domains ??
[22:14] <ikonia> skomorokh: give me an example of your problem
[22:14] <uruk> i can't install nothing with apt-get can you help me?
[22:14] <wafflejock> z999, so long as you use trusted repositories you're not likely to have malicious software in there but there will always be bugs and therefore potential attack vectors
[22:14] <ikonia> uruk: explain the problem
[22:15] <x01> uruk: apt-get install **package**
[22:16] <skomorokh> ikonia: I upgraded from 16.04->16.10 and now my local domains (resolved by my router as returned via dhcp) fail to work. eg. ping and ssh can't look them up. Weirdly, host and dig resolve them fine. ping and ssh can access the ip directly.
[22:16] <vfw> z999: Short answer: Possible but extremly rare. ;)
[22:16] <NoCode> Getting some weird error where if I hover my mouse over maximize icon on any program, the window kinda jumps around like it wants to maximize but it's already maximized.
[22:16] <ikonia> skomorokh:your local domains - so not internet domains
[22:16] <skomorokh> ikonia: /etc/resolv.conf has 127.0.1.1 (presumably dnsmasq) I changed it to use 192.168.2.1 and confirmed via dig that dig now uses that, they both look up fine there.
[22:17] <ikonia> skomorokh: yeah, thats not how it works in ubuntu
[22:17] <skomorokh> ikonia: correct. Internet domains work, leading me to believe it is somehow using some other dns.
[22:17] <ikonia> skomorokh: did you see the line in /etc/resolv.conf that says ** do not change this file by hand **
[22:17] <ikonia> or words to that effect
[22:17] <abhishek> ikonia, what's the issue in that? :)
[22:17] <ikonia> abhishek: issue in what
[22:18] <wedgie> skomorokh: ''nmcli device show <your network device name> | grep DNS''
[22:18] <abhishek> nicomachus, I read that but as mentioned I installed both still the same error.
[22:18] <nicomachus> abhishek: it's not an error, it's a warning. it can be ignored. as people are now telling you on Stack Exchange.
[22:18] <skomorokh> wedgie: It's showing the correct one.
[22:18] <nicomachus> if my removal request for the duplicate hasn't gone through yet, that is...
[22:19] <skomorokh> ikonia: Yes, I realise resolvconf or network-manager will overwrite that file, but have successfully made transient changes there in past
[22:19] <ikonia> skomorokh: it's more than just overwrite it
[22:19] <ikonia> skomorokh: if a config file says "don't do this" actually in the file, and you do it - you're asking for a problem
[22:19] <tgm4883> skomorokh: in your resolv.conf file, does it also list a search domain?
[22:20] <tgm4883> skomorokh: alternatively, are you able to ssh/ping with the FQDN?
[22:20] <skomorokh> tgm4883: nope, just a nameserver line
[22:20] <skomorokh> tgm4883: i can ssh/ping the ip directly.
[22:20] <wedgie> skomorokh: i don't know. I've had trouble with this kind of thing before. It'll get stuck on some nameserver that is not the first one in the list and keep using it. I don't know what to do about it or get it to tell me what it's preferred one really is. I ended up solving my particular problem by manually setting DNS servers in network manager :/
[22:20] <chalcedony> hope im not bothering you. my husband is unable to login on his ubuntu 16.04 LTS - its a recent upgrade from 14.04 on his desktop. the computer is not seeing part of the keys, with ps2 or USB. can anyone help please?
[22:20] <tgm4883> skomorokh: you can ping/ssh when it's set to 127.0.1.1 by using the FQDN?
[22:21] <skomorokh> tgm4883: nope, it fails to resolve.
[22:21] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:21] <skomorokh> tgm4883: weirdly, dig and host can use 127.0.1.1 just fine to resolve that same name into the proper ip
[22:22] <skomorokh> tgm4883: so dnsmasq or whatever is working fine-ish
[22:22] <nicomachus> chalcedony: what do you mean it's not seeing part of the keys?
[22:22] <skomorokh> tgm4883: and ping and host are happy with that ip.
[22:22] <tomreyn> chalcedony: when you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and get the textual login prompt there, can you use all the keys there?
[22:22] <chalcedony> nicomachus, it sees arrow keys and caps
[22:22] <tgm4883> skomorokh: sounds like your dhcp server might not be pushing all the right options
[22:22] <Snarg> Hi, does anyone have a few minutes to help me with some problems with basic apt-get and repository preferences?
[22:22] <chalcedony> i don't know. wonder if it will see ctrl alt
[22:22] <chalcedony> will try it thanks :)
[22:23] <nicomachus> first thought is that the layout got changed somehow and just needs reverted
[22:23] <scw-aa> do anyone actually like vim? xd
[22:24] <wedgie> scw-aa: yes.
[22:24] <Snarg> sure
[22:24] <skomorokh> tgm4883: interesting... my dhcp server is just dnsmasq on lts.  I have a file, /etc/dnsmasq.d/localnames where I do things like address=/visibly/192.168.2.1
[22:24] <tomreyn> chalcedony: when you say it sees arrow keys and capital letters only - what about numbers? also, is caps lock active by chance?
[22:24] <Snarg> vim is a great way to learn movement keys for roquelikes ;)
[22:24] <scw-aa> just seems so unlogical to me
[22:24] <Snarg> that's because you're used to other paradigms
[22:24] <wedgie> Snarg: I found nethack to be a great way to learn movement keys for vim :P
[22:24] <nicomachus> Snarg: what's the issue?
[22:24] <skomorokh> scw-aa: the logic is that those keys are where your fingers already are :)
[22:25] <chalcedony> tomreyn, nicomachus - ctl-alt f1 worked, but typing d e  got me ^E^H
[22:25] <scw-aa> assuming you know where my fingers are
[22:25] <Snarg> nicomachus:thanks! I am trying to install DCSS 0.19 on a PocketChip , as per instructions here
[22:25] <Snarg> http://crawl.develz.org/download.htm
[22:26] <tomreyn> chalcedony: hit left and right hand CTRL and ALT (ALT GR) keys several times, then try again.
[22:26] <nicomachus> Snarg: ok, and did you get an error?
[22:26] <Snarg> sources.list is properly updated
[22:26] <Snarg> yes.
[22:26] <chalcedony> scw-aa, love vim - try #vim
[22:26] <Snarg> went through several cycles of purger/remove, try again, etc.
[22:26] <nicomachus> Snarg: what was the error? please pastebin and link here. best to just do the whole thing
[22:27] <chalcedony> tomreyn, left and right ctrl and alt - what is GR?
[22:27] <Snarg> nicomachus: can't easily paste bin, this little machine moves real slow, can't run full browsers well, am typing from real computer.
[22:27] <CodeHunterEx> I am running Lubuntu 16.04 and I have dual monitors.  How can I have each monitor as a separate screen, or extended screen?
[22:27] <tomreyn> chalcedony: you should have two ALT keys, one left and one right of the space bar, those are the ones i mean.
[22:27] <nicomachus> Snarg: <command> | nc termbin 9999
[22:28] <chalcedony> tomreyn, ok yes thanks :)
[22:28] <nicomachus> !pastebinit | Snarg or install this
[22:28] <wafflejock> CodeHunterEx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/MultiDisplay
[22:28] <Snarg> Ok installing pastebinit, thanks
[22:30] <tomreyn> chalcedony: so did this fix the input issue?
[22:30] <chalcedony> tomreyn, its not seeing anything now when i type d
[22:30] <scw-aa> anyone have any experience with online.net vps
[22:30] <chalcedony> (on usb keyboard)
[22:31] <tomreyn> chalcedony: hmm maybe you really have a broken keyboard there? can you try in your bios or at the grub boot prompt?
[22:31] <tomreyn> chalcedony: alternatively try a different OS or live usb / cdrom if you have any
[22:32] <tomreyn> chalcedony: this is not a wireless or battery powered keyboard by any chance?
[22:32] <scw-aa> anything good to automate updates and cleanup in ubuntu server?
[22:33] <nicomachus> scw-aa: you can set it in cron
[22:33] <chalcedony> tomreyn, i have both ps2 and usb keyboards (wired in)
[22:33] <scw-aa> true
[22:34] <tomreyn> chalcedony: oh you have two separate keyboards, not just one keyboard with both connectors?
[22:34] <scw-aa> was thinking as in something like http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Wajig_Overview.html
[22:35] <tomreyn> chalcedony: try the bios / grub prompt / live system / alternative OS approahc then, see if either keyboard works there.
[22:35] <chalcedony> tomreyn, yes three actually. 2 ps2
[22:35] <chalcedony> i will see what we can do, thanks for your help :)
[22:37] <tomreyn> chalcedony: welcome. one possible explanation is that the ubuntu installer (or you accidentially) selected the wrong keyboard layout during installation. if so, reinstalling (and watching out for any keyboard layout options) is your easiest option.
[22:37] <Snarg> nicomachus: ok sources.list - http://paste.debian.net/902433 apt-cache policy - http://paste.debian.net/902432 apt/preferences - http://paste.debian.net/902428 and finally the failed install command - http://paste.debian.net/902431
[22:38] <tomreyn> chalcedony: ^ and yet another option would be to use the text graphics mini.iso installer instead of the default one, since there you can specify your keyboard layout precisely.
[22:38] <nicomachus> Snarg: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:39] <Snarg>  nicomachus: oh crap, this is debian jessie... I thought this would be the same in ubuntu?
[22:39] <nicomachus> !debian | Snarg
[22:39] <Snarg> and everybody in #debian was ignoring me... so I thought I'd try here :)
[22:40] <nicomachus> sorry Snarg, we can't support debian here.
[22:40] <chalcedony> tomreyn, they are regular standard keyboards i doubt he selected anything odd. it has been working ok for a few days
[22:40] <syadnom> hi all, I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to boot from an external usb3 connected hard drive.
[22:40] <Snarg> nicomachus: ok, thanks anyway, I guess I thought it might be similar enough. Oh well, have a nice day!
[22:41] <syadnom> when booting, it moves the cursor down 1 line and then the cursor just sits.  It's like grub is dying before it even starts to put 'grub..' on the screen...
[22:41] <wedgie> chalcedony: in the upper right do you have a selector for language/character map?
[22:42] <chalcedony> wedgie, not sure. on the login screen?
[22:43] <wedgie> yeah
[22:43] <chalcedony> i dunno. ill look
[22:43]  * PontifexMaximus greetz chalcedony
[22:45] <chalcedony> PontifexMaximus, hi good to see you :)
[22:46] <chalcedony> ok wedgie tomreyn - rebooting seems to have solved it. rebooting with the usb keyboard plugged in
[22:46] <chalcedony> i walked over there and he's in
[22:48] <Zeropedian> hi
[22:54] <Sean_McG> hi
[22:55] <xxxx> how can i configure my keyboard to a 115 letters? arrows doesn't work so any solution using those will be like nothing
[22:56] <scw-aa> if i have set my ssh to a custom port to need to change the "ssh" var in fail2ban
[22:57] <Sean_McG> I don't use fail2ban but I should... far too many unwanted connections from .cn
[22:57] <foli> This it to notify the we are beginning maitenance on Canonical data centre firewalls.
[22:58] <scw-aa> dont really see a reason to not use it
[23:10] <heydenweb> quit
[23:16] <syadnom> 'shoddy'
[23:16] <syadnom> :p
[23:17] <EdSantos754> Hi. Can someone please tell me which version of the nvidia gpu driver is available on Ubuntu 16.10?
[23:17] <scw-aa> it's a baremetal from online.net tought it seemed cheap and i guess that's why
[23:17] <Sean_McG> EdSantos754: packages.ubuntu.com
[23:17] <EdSantos754> thanks sean
[23:18] <scw-aa> had it freeze one me once already after installing ufw
[23:18] <scw-aa> hard to do a hard reboot
[23:18] <scw-aa> had*
[23:18] <wafflejock> !info nvidia-current yakkety > EdSantos754
[23:18] <wafflejock> !info nvidia-current yakkety
[23:19] <skomorokh> Still haven't figured out yet, but ya, 16.10 does change DNS stuff FWIW, in case anyone happens to stumble on this log https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-May/039350.html
[23:19] <Sean_McG> oddd, I have nvidia-370 on my 14.04 box
[23:19] <PontifexMaximus> In component restricted, is optional. <--- what does that mean?
[23:19] <Sean_McG> maybe I have an external repo...
[23:20]  * Sean_McG checks
[23:21] <wafflejock> Sean_McG, think if you go into additional drivers you can get a newer version but the default "current" is older
[23:22] <Sean_McG> wafflejock: I was right... I'm using the graphics-drivers PPA (EdSantos may want to check that out)
[23:23] <wafflejock> Sean_McG, EdSantos754 yeah lots of other packages here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all looks like they go up to 367
[23:23] <EdSantos754> 367.57 is the default one for 16.04
[23:24] <energizer> What is "respawning" a service?
[23:24] <EdSantos754> actually, let me check it
[23:25] <EdSantos754> 367.57, it's correct
[23:27] <EdSantos754> so it's the same version, if I got it right?
[23:27] <Sean_McG> 370.28 is available in the graphics-drivers PPA
[23:27] <Sean_McG> (which is what I'm using)
[23:28] <vfw> energizer: respawning is just another way of saying restarting
[23:28] <EdSantos754> can I use it on 16.04?
[23:28] <EdSantos754> is it stable?
[23:28] <EdSantos754> for you, I mean
[23:29] <Sean_McG> probably, I don't have an issue yet -- I have a GTX1070
[23:29] <vfw> EdSantos754: Yes, 16.04 is stable
[23:29] <energizer> vfw: thanks
[23:29] <vfw> !16.04 AAA
[23:29] <EdSantos754> vfw, I meant the nvidia driver that sean is using
[23:30] <vfw> !16.04 | EdSantos754
[23:30] <EdSantos754> the nvidia driver available on the repositories is killing me
[23:30] <vfw> EdSantos754: Oh.  Sorry.
[23:31] <vfw> EdSantos754: I prefer the open source one
[23:31] <vfw> EdSantos754: What's it doing?  (Or not doing?)
[23:31] <EdSantos754> random crashes
[23:32] <Sean_McG> yikes
[23:32] <EdSantos754> It took me some days to figure out it was the nvidia drivers
[23:32] <EdSantos754> tried ubuntu, opensuse and mint
[23:32] <wafflejock> EdSantos754, you mean periodic system refreshes, it's a feature ;)
[23:32] <EdSantos754> crashed on all of them
[23:32] <EdSantos754> dual booted windows works fine
[23:32] <EdSantos754> so it is not hardware
[23:33] <EdSantos754> ah ah :P
[23:33] <wafflejock> EdSantos754, which card?
[23:33] <vfw> !nouveau | EdSantos754
[23:33] <EdSantos754> gtx 960
[23:33] <kk4ewt> EdSantos754,  ok so you should be supported by the newest nvidia driver
[23:33] <vfw> EdSantos754: You could download from nvidia.com
[23:34] <EdSantos754> atm I'm on mint (for the first time) and even the open source one is acting strange. When I start the computer, it says it's on software rendering mode, for some reason
[23:34] <vfw> EdSantos754: But if you do, you'll need to re-install should you upgrade to a newer kernel.
[23:34] <EdSantos754> :/ I'm almost a newbie
[23:35] <EdSantos754> can't I just use a ppa?
[23:35] <Sean_McG> vfw: I thought that was managed by DKMS?
[23:35] <kk4ewt> Sean_McG,  not the nvidia.run
[23:35] <vfw> Sean_McG: DKMS?
[23:35] <wafflejock> dynamic kernel modules me thinks
[23:35] <vfw> oh ok
[23:36] <wafflejock> yeah ppas aren't really supported here so you're on your own or trusting ppa maintainer to help you
[23:37] <vfw> So are we correct in assuming the driver modules we install from nvidia.com are *not* DKMS?
[23:38] <wafflejock> not sure on the nvidia drivers, I know vbox has dkms drivers that will automatically get installed when the kernel gets updated but dunno with nvidia drivers how that works out
[23:38] <vfw> Pretty sure that is correct.  At any rate, I've seen a number of folks here that prefer to download direct from nvidia.com
[23:38] <Sean_McG> oh yeah maybe the non-packaged version is not dkms managed
[23:38] <wafflejock> vfw, problem with that is then you have no easy way to remove
[23:39] <vfw> wafflejock: Oh yea, you can remove it, but just not via the package manager.
[23:39] <jamesrleimer> good evening
[23:40] <EdSantos754> what does DKMS means? :P
[23:40] <wafflejock> !ppa | EdSantos754  Sean_McG
[23:40] <arturo> hello
[23:40] <Bashing-om> EdSantos754: Consuder : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/112992/en-us . nVidia recommends the 375 (beta) version driver for that card - available in our PPA .
[23:41] <arturo> how can I set it up so when I right click an image it appears the set as background?
[23:41] <Sean_McG> the games I have in Steam aren't overly demanding.
[23:41] <EdSantos754> Bashing, "our"?
[23:41] <EdSantos754> Ubuntu's?
[23:42] <wafflejock> !dkms | EdSantos754
[23:42] <Sean_McG> admittedly I probably could have settled with a 1060 but the 1070 was on sale
[23:42] <EdSantos754> indies rule :P
[23:42] <wafflejock> EdSantos754, basic gist is they are drivers that aren't a part of the kernel but get loaded into or out of the kernel (main core of the OS that talks to hardware)
[23:43] <arturo> how can I set it up so when I right click an image it appears the set as background?
[23:43] <wafflejock> arturo, from what context? like a browser or file browser?
[23:43] <EdSantos754> ok, thanks wafflejock
[23:44] <EdSantos754> I just didn't from which ppa the 375 version is available
[23:44] <arturo> wafflejock: file browser, currently using Dolphin
[23:44] <Bashing-om> EdSantos754: Yeah Ours ; background : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html .
[23:45] <wafflejock> arturo, looks like this https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=10667
[23:45] <energizer> Is service restart exactly the same as service stop ; service start ?
[23:46] <EdSantos754> I can't open that link
[23:46] <wafflejock> arturo, you'd need to add the right click menu option and then find a script for setting the background I think, not sure about the second part yet but that seems to do the first
[23:46] <Bashing-om> EdSantos754: checking the link ,
[23:46] <EdSantos754> keeps loading
[23:47] <vfw> energizer: Supposedly yes, but I've had an instance or two when it just did not work and I reverted to stop and start
[23:47] <EdSantos754> in any case, the nvidia driver I was getting on Ubuntu was the 367 one
[23:47] <Sean_McG> oh, yeah foli mentioned Canonical was doing some firewall work
[23:48] <Sean_McG> "lists.ubuntu.com took too long to respond."
[23:48] <vfw> energizer: ... not sure what the problem was, and there may have been other circumstances that caused things to not work as I expected, but just sharing my experience....
[23:48] <foli> Sean_McG: that's correct, probably is down right now
[23:48] <energizer> vfw: thanks
[23:50] <vfw> energizer: I should also point out that with systemd we now have start, stop, restart and status and status gives good information on what happend when a service starts or why it did not start.
[23:51] <Bashing-om> EdSantos754: Well . I also can not connect .. and on the PPA I get " If we are in the middle of an update, Launchpad will be back in a couple of minutes. : . Maybe related . Will try again in a bit .
[23:51] <energizer> vfw: unfortunately im using a computer with 14.04 atm
[23:51] <vfw> energizer: Ok. Well, just something to look forward to.
[23:52] <EdSantos754> Bashing, so it's an official ppa, but not the default one?
[23:52] <vfw> energizer: procrastination *is* curable ;)
[23:52] <energizer> hahaha
[23:53] <Bashing-om> EdSantos754: The "https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa" was a consolidated/concerted effort from many fronts with ubuntu leading the way . Lots of support from many sources in the industry .
[23:54] <EdSantos754> I see
[23:54] <EdSantos754> I'll give it a try
[23:54] <EdSantos754> thanks
[23:55] <z999> i am trying to install ubuntu and i can not get to the bios
[23:55] <Sean_McG> long answer to what seemed like a simple question I'm sure
[23:55] <vfw> z999: Laptop or desktop
[23:55] <vfw> ?
[23:55] <z999> laptop
[23:55] <compdoc> z999, you need to change something in the bios?
[23:56] <tgm4883> Bashing-om: probably due to the firewall maintenance
[23:56] <z999> it will not recognize the usb
[23:56] <vfw> z999: You have to watch closely, you should see instructions on the screen when it first comes on.
[23:56] <z999> i thought i might have to switch it to boot usb
[23:56] <Bashing-om> tgm4883: Thanks ,, launchpad is back up at this time :)
[23:56] <tgm4883> 2:57 PM <foli> This it to notify the we are beginning maitenance on Canonical data centre firewalls.
[23:56] <tgm4883> Bashing-om: cool
[23:57] <vfw> z999: One thing you can do is alternate between Esc F1 F2 Del really fast as it starts
[23:57] <z999> tried that
[23:57] <compdoc> z999, some computers have a boot menu if you hit f11 at boot. Sometimes that will show you the usb stick. It can be different than f11, so you might have to look up your pc to see which key to hit
[23:58] <z999> ok
[23:58] <scw-aa> having some issues with ufw (i think) everytime i set it to enable it will tell me, you will interupt any ssh blabla, so i go on
[23:58] <vfw> z999 or F10
[23:58] <scw-aa> however after that my server stops responding
[23:58] <Bashing-om> EdSantos754: " 375.26-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1  " in the referenced PPA . as well looks to be available for all supported releases .
[23:58] <scw-aa> i did allow my ssh port
[23:59] <scw-aa> and i can only get back if i do a hard reset (cut the electricity)
[23:59] <scw-aa> help :s
[23:59] <vfw> scw-aa: stops responding to ___________?
[23:59] <scw-aa> everything basically