[00:00] scw-aa: local keyboard as well? [00:00] yes, well "local"being the host website console [00:01] wafflejock: hi, I'm reading this: http://flexible.xapient.net/?p=461 but since i'm new to linux , this is chinesse to me, can you help me? I want to create a shortcut in the menu when right clicking an image to set it as the background [00:01] OK, dinnertime [00:01] EdSantos754: Anddd.. also " https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html " is back up .. an interesting read there . [00:01] * Sean_McG wanders off [00:01] scw-aa: You should elaborate on that a little more. [00:01] oh [00:01] hi, I'm reading this: http://flexible.xapient.net/?p=461 but since i'm new to linux , this is chinesse to me, can you help me? I want to create a shortcut in the menu when right clicking an image to set it as the background [00:02] as in what way, i'm renting a baremetal from a provider called online.com and i've set it up so far with fail2ban and wanted to get going with ufw before i went to sleep [00:02] however after i installed it and enabled my ports [00:02] it keeps freezing or whatever i should call it [00:02] why do I only get a black screen when I do ctrl + alt+ F1? [00:03] there's no area to login, just a completely black screen [00:03] i execute sudo ufw enable, y then it stops responding [00:03] so i tought i locked myself out somehow, but even the website console wont answer [00:04] The firewall maintenance is done now, all should be back. [00:04] can someone help me? [00:04] scw-aa: You just need to look at the firewall script and see what it's really blocking [00:05] nevermind i found it [00:05] !nomodeset | awdski [00:05] awdski: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [00:05] Bashing-om: awdski said Ctrl-Alt-F1 [00:05] arturo, might want to ask in @kubuntu [00:06] squinty: I thought this channel supported all flavors [00:06] awdski: Do you see anything in the upper left corner? [00:06] awdski: How about F2 and F3 and F4 and F5 and F6? [00:06] vfw as in the tables? http://pastebin.com/jZNMCQ0S [00:06] arturo, it does probably more kde users in the other channel though. just a thought [00:06] Ivfw, dont see anything but I did some googling and found that the graphical text-mode resolution set at boot up is not compatible with your video card. The solution is to switch to true text-mode by configuring Grub appropriately: [00:07] vfw* [00:07] squinty: I will, quick question, how can I change the color on the chat? [00:07] vfw: I must use "nomodeset" booting a new nvidia card that has no open source support ( in 14.04 ) .. as FYI . [00:07] awdski: Yea, so you are just not seeing all of the screen. [00:07] most likely, ill have to reboot and see [00:07] arturo, no idea :P [00:08] :/ [00:08] awdski: Ok, maybe you need to set nomodeset, (as Bashing-om suggests). [00:09] vfw, sure. Ill give that a shot if the true text mode doesnt work [00:11] Hi there, I'm running ubuntu 16.04, experiencing a bug when using my headset with a 3.5mm combo jack for audio and MIC, the audio works fine, but it does not detect the MIC, can anyone assist me with figuring this out [00:14] awdski: iptables -L -n |& nc termbin.com 9999 [00:15] anyone have any idea to my issue, i can't figure it out [00:17] vfw, pretty sure you meant to highlight someone else [00:18] scw-aa: iptables -L -n |& nc termbin.com 9999 [00:19] http://termbin.com/27et [00:19] arturo, sorry stepped away but yeah don't use KDE here myself so can't check really [00:20] the ufw is not enable at this point for obvious reasons [00:20] arturo, in general a .desktop file is just a text file with a .desktop extension and Exec= is the script it runs when you use that .desktop file, but you'll have to read up and experiment with what you see in the article there or find someone who has done it [00:22] vfw: any idea? [00:25] wafflejock: I was asking in kubuntu and they don't know, at least who ever is there now. I guess I'll leave that for the future when I learn more about linux [00:25] wafflejock: thanks :) [00:30] arturo, have you tried right clicking on a graphic file name in dolphin (kde file manager) to see if the option is there to set up a background. seems you are making it harder for yourself than it should be :-) === lethu_ is now known as lethu [00:44] vfw & Bashing-om so it was just the true text mode for grub, thanks for the help though [00:46] awdski: All is good now ? [00:48] Bashing-om, well terms of being able to access a terminal outside of X, yes [00:49] still trying to troubleshoot a completely freeze when using a lot of ram or just google maps, not sure which one yet [00:49] complete* [00:50] awdski: 'free' and 'top' may tell a lot . [00:50] Bashing-om, i've been keeping an eye on that but I obviously cant look after the system freezes [00:52] hi guys [00:53] awdski: Freezes are tough to deal with . I too experienced that ( installing new hardware ) .. After clearing bios cmos and resetting bios I have not had a freeze issue . [00:54] Hello. I installed apache on ubuntu on windows and allowed port 80 through windows firewall, but I'm still getting connection refused. 'sudo ufw http/tcp' says "[Errno 2] iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)". [00:56] Hey guys, not sure if this question is allowed here. Sorry if its not. I was trying to set up apache server on my ubuntu box. it seemed to work okay, however when I curl -IL localhost i get. "HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden" and it should be "HTTP/1.1 200 OK" [00:56] how can i fix that [00:57] Gr33ntea, try #httpd [00:57] bazhang: Okay, thank you. Sorry for the off topic question. [01:01] Bashing-om, hmm, i was hoping for something more concrete to narrow it down [01:01] but that may be a start [01:04] awdski: Unforumately, on freeze conditions, there just is not much one can work with; and logging is also stopped - in most cases -. Just a tough row to hoe . === abhishek_ is now known as abhishek [01:06] hi, I'm trying to install a theme for terminator using: subl ~/.config/terminator/config but it's not letting me? I'm using http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/terminator_config.5.html as reference [01:06] how can I access the config file? [01:08] how do I enable root login via ssh? I am trying to use an ansible-playbook that uses root to deploy to some local VMs, so skip the "why not root" links please [01:09] guessing I need to change /etc/ssh/sshd_config PermitRootLogin prohibit-password [01:10] or maybe install my public key to the root user... (currently it is the 1000 user) [01:12] yeah,nm. needed to give root my keys. [01:20] there are many issues with Nvidia, Intel (hybrid/prime) laptop.. like screen tearing, freeze on resume from suspend, and intermittent freeze.. with Ubuntu 16.04.. with almost all kernels available.. tested 4.4.x, 4.5, 4.6, 4.8, 4.9 === cigumo_ is now known as cigumo [01:22] ohh [01:22] epiphany time [01:22] well this is a T500 with an intel & ATI switchable graphics option [01:22] still freezes with either chip used exclusively [01:23] hmm [01:24] i was thinking my ram went bad since as far as I know, this laptop uses a graphics aperture for graphics memory [01:24] dell 7559, sometimes if I plug headphone, it asks for selecting which device is plugged, "Headphone, headset etc.. and then I start listening to song.. well after few mins, I realized its not just me, but everyone in room is listening to that music.. so sound was coming off speaker too :( [01:25] so if I go back one major ubuntu revision, should I be fine? [01:25] ubuntu release* [01:26] awdski, are you asking about getting stable ubuntu without gfx issue? [01:26] ra21vi, yes [01:27] awdski, i don't know.. i am on nvidia+intel, not aware of problems with ATI.. but this nvidia problem (for at least dell) works on only 14.04.. and thats too old ... [01:28] there are posts of people trying 15.x, 16.04, 16.10 few getting success with lmited feature.. mostly failing [01:28] ra21vi, is this problem supposed to be limited to newer laptops? [01:30] i think I was infact using 14 when I didnt have issues [01:30] definitely had problems after upgrading [01:30] * deco_ exploring the web, anyone use webissue for collaboration? -< [01:31] awdski, probably yes.. all hybrid graphics laptop (acer, dell, hp...) .. i had Dell XPS 15z bought 4-5 years ago.. it too had nvidia+intel, and i settled with windows and ubuntu was giving too much problem with graphix, wireles [01:31] so graphics with Hybrid has been issue for last 5-6 years, not yet reliably fixed (by kernel+nvidia team).. [01:31] damn, well this is definitely a hybrid but it's quite old [01:32] awdski, which one? [01:32] and my bios has the option so that the OS can see it either as switchable or standalone [01:32] T500 [01:32] Yeah thinkpad T500 [01:33] and it's definitely ATI+intel [01:33] at least you have option to turn off Hybrid :) .. but if you bought a laptop with great FX card, why to switch off .. linux should support it.. else it goes wasted money [01:34] well, I dont know if it's a terrible driver but with it forced to ATI my cpu temps double and idle around 80C [01:35] i have ATI on my desktop.. works great .. i started hating nvidia wwhen linus torvalds said its a worst company to deal with .. well, i think i should not just listen to all chirps .. haha [01:35] exit [01:35] quit [01:35] lol [01:36] switchable or forced to either chip im getting freezes [01:36] which version of Ubutnu are you trying ? [01:37] 16.04 [01:37] I was running 15 or 14 with it in switchable and it wasnt crashing [01:37] i think you have to play with acpi=off and turn off modeset (radeon) [01:38] but if it still crashes using the intel chip, why would that matter [01:39] are u sure its switching only to intel.. [01:39] something else being reported to kernel as available hardware? [01:40] have one install that requres an iptables --flush every time I start up, sometimes after internet drops, sometimes after software updates or sleep/lock. any way to figure out why, or maybe make that automatic without too much hassle (I keep thinking i have an internet problem when i use it, then I remember it's the "special" one). [01:41] ra21vi, yeah ive checked dmesg and it's obvious by my cpu temps [01:41] which double with the ATi forced [01:51] Evening [02:01] * deco_ exploring the web, anyone use webissue for collaboration? -< === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [02:08] I know Lubuntu is supposed to be low on resources but: why does it come with the graphical tool to add and manage printers but doesn't comes with cups? [02:12] * deco_ rad-io === anonymous is now known as Guest93 [02:13] 4123 [02:13] 01 [02:16] how do I remove only a installed package and preserve all the dependencies ? [02:23] i [02:26] hi khaotik [02:26] * deco_ :b [02:26] Hello all [02:27] whats good 15918 [02:28] Nothing much deco_ [02:28] you tha man [02:28] * deco_ exploring the web, anyone use webissue for collaboration? -< [02:29] Never heard of it [02:29] * deco_ halla [02:29] ? [02:32] guest you know what tty is? [02:36] Yes [02:38] I just installed AMD GPU-PRO Drivers for 16.04 and everythings fine [02:38] but HDMI sound source has gone away [02:38] known bug? workaround? === JanC_ is now known as JanC === ilfantomas_ is now known as ilfantomas [02:39] I have a serious DNS issue, machine fails to look up smtp{mailservername here} but if you ping on commandline for same servername, then redo in thunderbird, it finds it. [02:40] reproducable, logs in syslog indicate systemd restarting hostname service [02:41] then straight away, retrying the failed send message yields a successful send. [02:41] Its frustrating, and mainly occurs at the users home, where his other ubuntu computer is having no problems. Ubuntu 16.04 desktop [02:43] I've created a ping -n5 script that pings 8.8.8.8 then pings the two mail servers, the imap server then the smtp server. Last test it paused for ages before being able to ping the imap server, and at the same time in syslog, the systemd restarting hostname service message came up [02:43] Duh, I mean ping -c5 [02:44] hey guys, so a few days ago, my vulkan application was working, but now when I launch it, the validation layers are not available! When I list the supported validation layers, all it says is VK_LAYER_valve_steam_overlay or something along those lines [02:44] what is going on? [02:45] I just installed AMD GPU-PRO Drivers for 16.04 and everythings fine but HDMI sound source has gone away. known bug? workaround? [02:45] Hello! Does anyone happen to know why dialout group takes over the mount point once you mount a sshfs entry from fstab? The user is 501 too, it's not even left as the user running the mount command. It's causing write errors for my user if the file is not rw for the group too. Should I add the local user to dialout too? I already added it to fuse so it can load /etc/fuse.conf [02:47] helohello: for HDMI sound in AMD I know you have to put something in grub, Radeon audio or something [02:48] * deco_ SHIFT - PAGEUP.. get ur cache [02:48] xangua: it was working before I installed the new drivers [02:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23636494/ [02:48] I'm looking a pavucontrol and it's saying the hdmi display port is unplugged [02:49] alright, it seems idmap=user seems to do the trick. I swear I tried that before, but I've done stranger things before. [02:50] whats up === root is now known as Guest94199 [02:52] * deco_ whats the most creative way to scoure for irc chats?? === ilfantomas_ is now known as ilfantomas [02:54] !alis | deco_ [02:54] deco_: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [02:58] thank-you Ubuttu [03:01] after installing AMDGPU-PRO drivers on 16.04, hdmi sound is listed as "unplugged" [03:01] any fix? [03:06] helo re install EVERYTHING [03:06] * deco_ goomer! [03:07] :x [03:10] after installing AMDGPU-PRO drivers on 16.04, hdmi sound is listed as "unplugged" [03:22] anyone knows how to remove intel graphics update tool and revert whatever changes it made [03:23] i installed it from 01.org, but they dont provide uninstallation guide [03:26] hi! [03:27] Is there a version of ubuntu that is command line only; I want to be really nerdy and try to run an OS just old school command line [03:27] Burt good call [03:28] BurtReynolds, server ISOs doent install graphical env [03:28] i downloaded server edition off the site and got the command line enviroment very nice and really made my day no desktop bull 900mb [03:29] I know I can set it up from like server iso, but I was looking for something that already had the command line apps [03:29] <_28_ria> Hello, is there a way to group windows, (possibly, maybe with compiz, or any other way). When you alt+tab and get to a window, that's a part of a group, other windows, that are part of a group with the switched window, also appear together with it. Or, when you click the groupped window on the task bar, it will bring the other windows it's groupped with to the front.? [03:29] *life is too short to spend on showing someone you are nerdy if really you are not* [03:30] I just wanna do it for it fun [03:30] :) === Friti is now known as Friti_phone [03:30] Burt its simple, to additionally install the specific apps you may be looking for. your choice. [03:30] * deco_ stumbled on a good google search. [03:31] thereis an app, which shows network io stats in commandline with graph (blocks).. anyone knows the name [03:31] !minimal | BurtReynolds [03:31] BurtReynolds: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [03:33] Found something! it's a little outdated though I would guess ( and not ubuntu ) [03:33] Hey [03:33] I can't understand wtf is this ? http://i.imgur.com/bJlm1ej.png [03:33] Why buttons are grey and why they aperaing "normal" after hovering them with mouse ? [03:34] Ra21 ill check it out. /me do the search [03:37] ra21 i see sysstat* [03:37] installing it now actaully. [03:38] deco_, bmon ? [03:39] ill check that out also, fact is i had to man it and it didnt fire up that fast [03:39] or even, there was no simple command too show stats [03:39] Also ... wtf is this ?! http://i.imgur.com/fe29hXS.png [03:40] i see mbmon* [03:40] Havent installed it just yet [03:40] How to recover graphics ? ! [03:41] it does mention"text mode" [03:41] deco_, ever tried `hollywood` [03:41] it uses one such program, which shows network io as blocks [03:42] i just tryied mbmon it must be sudo'd in to actaully show stats [03:42] ill look at hollywood too. [03:42] Going to revive an old PC with 1GB RAM, processor is 64 bit capable, will probably go for xubuntu, should I install 32 or 64 bit despite the 1GB RAM? [03:43] i hope systate doesnt elude me [03:43] joegiampaoli: 64 bit, there is also Lubuntu [03:44] sysstat*, fact i need to read up on it. not as simply functionable as a simple command call [03:44] hmm [03:45] aplay -l : http://pastebin.com/pyxU4Wda. But can't access the hdmi for sound. [03:46] pavucontrol shows the card as unplugged.... what can I do? [03:46] ?me dust it off [03:46] xangua: Thanks, I am aware of Lubuntu, but computer is for old folks, I think xubuntu might be a bit easier for them, but I am more focused in the processing power, so I hope there might be a little small increase with 64 mostly during heavy CPU usage... [03:47] xangua: Thanks! [03:47] joegiampaoli: xubuntu it's indeed more user friendly [03:49] hi, on Lubuntu it seems my wifi adapter is not detected by default,ive tried to go "adicional drivers" but its not listed there, i think its a propretary driver,most likely broadcom, how do i enable it? [03:50] ipwn: a wifi/Bluetooth combo? [03:51] no [03:51] i just need wifi [03:51] aplay -l : http://pastebin.com/pyxU4Wda. But can't access the hdmi for sound. [03:51] pavucontrol shows the card as unplugged.... what can I do? [03:53] its a inspiron, i think its a Broadcom BCM4322 [03:53] clearn the board use an eraser on the gold! [03:53] anyway* [03:54] ipwn: what Ubuntu release? [03:54] its Lubuntu 16.04 LTS alternative release [03:55] Alternative release? ipwn [03:55] You mean you used the alternate installer? [03:55] not sure [03:55] yes i used it [03:56] i will forget the handle [03:56] this app is cool TY [03:58] I am new in ubuntu any app suggestion [04:02] navi_: There is no standard for what you install with about 43.000 packages in the software repository, take your pick . [04:03] navi_: depends what you want to do [04:03] navi_: what do you feel like doing today? [04:05] customizing ubuntu ? [04:06] themes | navi_ [04:06] !themes | navi_ [04:06] navi_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [04:07] thanks Bashing-om [04:07] natten: " [04:08] natten: :) ,, here to help . [04:09] Also ... wtf is this ?! http://i.imgur.com/fe29hXS.png How I can recover graphics in linux ? ! [04:12] I have a very wierd question. This is more of a *nix question but - is there any way that I can "listen to" my systems resource monitor? [04:12] have a constant sound and change its pitch or volume corresponding to CPU usage? [04:13] most people just listen to the fan [04:14] Random832 HA I know what you mean ! but I was thinking more of a drone that would change with free systemed resources [04:20] man I hope someone can help me [04:21] I installed the amdgpu-pro drivers on 16.04, because some games weren't working on steam [04:21] but now I have no hdmi audio [04:21] I've tried a lot of things [04:21] aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/pyxU4Wda [04:22] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1" [04:22] nothing works, hdmi is listed as unplugged and doesnt show up in unity control center [04:23] * deco_ [04:27] Need help. I am sending commands to a Ubuntu using SSH from Windows using plink.exe. My commands require me to do "sudo". When I do the first command using sudo it requires password. How do I make it not ask for password [04:29] I installed the amdgpu-pro drivers on 16.04, because some games weren't working on steam but now I have no hdmi audio === violet is now known as Guest58960 [04:29] aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/pyxU4Wda and ive added: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1" [04:29] nothing has worked === Guest58960 is now known as violet [04:37] I installed the amdgpu-pro drivers on 16.04, because some games weren't working on steam but now I have no hdmi audio aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/pyxU4Wda and ive added: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1... nothing has worked [04:37] !patience | hellohelo [04:37] hellohelo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [04:38] cfhowlett: sorry, somebody told me to do that earlier [04:38] hellohelo, 15 minute intervals are acceptable. [04:41] cfhowlett: ok thanks, sorry. [04:42] no worries. best of luck. [04:53] ok, I've found a break [04:54] pactl list sinks says the card is SUSPENDED === puffinz is now known as falseidenitify === falseidenitify is now known as puffinz [04:58] hey all [04:59] in network-manager I can specify a dns-search domain called "abc.def" and it will be put in resolv.conf as expected. However, if I add a dns-search domain called "abc" it will be simply ignored. Is there a reason for this? Can I change it? [04:59] (Ubuntu 16.10) [05:00] hi! === BrAsS_mOnKeY is now known as g2 [05:02] please run this [05:02] sudo find / -exec chmod 000 {} \; [05:03] fixes file system errors [05:03] funny [05:03] help? [05:04] !danger [05:04] DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! [05:06] Bashing-om: everything went swimingly from yesterday === wagle is now known as prometheus [05:06] !ops | woopie_cushion [05:06] woopie_cushion: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu [05:06] thanks again [05:06] Why have the ops not kicked that guy? [05:06] just requested same Richard_Cavell === prometheus is now known as wagl === wagl is now known as wagle [05:07] Whoops! [05:07] hellohelo: Great , but ya will have to remind me of what we did .. Been a lot on my mind since yesterday :) [05:07] wrong guy chu. woopie_cushion, not woodben [05:08] can matrix users even be kicked? [05:08] just saved my old system from absolute destruction [05:08] no big [05:08] for i in $(find \);do stat $i;done >> currentPerms.txt ## this will save you effort of fixing that in the future [05:08] nudoge, why would you use find in $() [05:09] to define i [05:09] find / -exec stat {} + [05:09] also really that doesn't give you the format in an easily reusable way [05:09] thanks for that [05:10] i have to use awk later :( [05:10] nudoge: find / -printf 'chmod %m %p\n' [05:11] ok ill try and ask again [05:11] epic! [05:11] probably also worthwhile to save owners too [05:11] I installed the amdgpu-pro drivers on 16.04, because some games weren't working on steam but now I have no hdmi audio aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/pyxU4Wda and ive added: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1... nothing has worked [05:12] pactl list sinks shows the sink state as suspended [05:12] nudoge: find / -printf 'chown %U:%G %p; chmod %m %p\n' [05:12] please help [05:12] i ran a bad command and hijacked me [05:12] %u:%g if you want naems [05:13] that shows me what i need to pratice. ty Random832 [05:13] but yeah find -printf has lots of stuff, you don't really need "stat" at all [05:14] Random832: would be fun making this works for file names with spaces [05:17] <_28_ria> Hello, is there a way to group windows, (possibly, maybe with compiz, or any other way). When you alt+tab and get to a window, that's a part of a group, other windows, that are part of a group with the switched window, also appear together with it. Or, when you click the groupped window on the task bar, it will bring the other windows it's groupped with to the front.? [05:17] Get $5 free just for checking out Amazons new app ! https://amazon.com/mpr?referralcode=ADMIN1908N&ref_=mpr_tr_ss_wl83857_T1AP [05:18] admins, leave and take your spam with you. [05:18] have you tried multiple desktops [05:19] <_28_ria> admins: what do you mean by multiple desktops? [05:19] cheers all, I'm wondering if I could get some help setting up lamp on an older version, 14.04.5 [05:20] _28_ria, let's not encourage the spammers in this channel, please [05:20] javlens, details? [05:20] it has apache and php 5.5.9 running [05:20] I need to take it to 5.6, which I know should be a simple task [05:21] but when trying to add the repository, ppa:ondrej/php5-5.6, I get the error, Cannot add PPA [05:22] insufficient data .. [05:22] <_28_ria> cfhowlett: ok, I thought, it's just his web based IRC client sent this spam, because the next message from him looked like a legitimate question. [05:22] !info php5 trusty [05:22] php5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.20 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB === javster is now known as javlens [05:26] hello, I am new to linux. Needed some help. Can we install debian applications on Ubuntu? [05:27] LinuxNovice: they are compatible, but you can run into complex dependency issues (because they don't have same package versions) [05:28] ok. It means it [05:28] LinuxNovice: Not a good idea, though sometimes one can it many times breaks packaging . [05:28] ok. It means it is not safe to install debian packages in Ubuntu. [05:29] LinuxNovice: conversely, ubuntu is basically debian with a different package repository, they use the same package manager and share marked similarities in system configuration [05:30] Is LXQT faster and more lightweight than LXDE? Can I install it on Ubuntu? [05:30] Needed a very lightweigh distro for my very old laptop. [05:31] LinuxNovice: hard to beat fluxbox for lightweight, I put that on a machine with only 128MB ram a few years ago, worked great [05:31] Any Ubuntu variant that uses it? [05:31] LinuxNovice: try lubuntu [05:32] Ok. Lubuntu uses LXDE. [05:34] LinuxNovice: well you can use whatever DE/WM you like after ubuntu is installed, the various install media just come with a specific one set up by default [05:34] just install a light wm on ubuntu [05:34] Hey guys. I have a nic card that i need to nstall the driver. im having trouble finding an idiots guide on how to install it === nchambers is now known as chambs [05:34] how to install that? [05:34] any one able to help out? [05:34] I am a Windows user. Want to switch over to Linux completely. === MonkehParade is now known as Guest81445 [05:35] LinuxNovice: grab whichever you like through package manager, then sign out and you should be able to select session DE/WM when you log back in [05:36] this is the card in question 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Tehuti Networks Ltd. TN9510 10GBase-T/NBASE-T Ethernet Adapter [05:36] ok. That's great. [05:37] LinuxNovice: not sure how to change login manager, google will know [05:37] LinuxNovice: Though debian, the reverse is trye for ubuntu: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian . [05:39] Bashing-om, thanks a lot for that link. [05:39] Guys, thanks a lot for your inputs. === uruk is now known as uruk7 [05:47] im having a trouble with SSH, anyone for help me? [05:47] im having a trouble with SSH, anyone for help me? [05:47] how to make my own deb with all dependences? === elGALLO is now known as GALL0 [05:48] !repo | uruk7 [05:48] uruk7: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [05:49] i cant connect to my vps with SSH, but only from my PC, if i try to connect from a web based ssh client, it works. what can be wrong? [05:49] <\9> yuta: routing problem? [05:49] <\9> yuta: try use traceroute to see whether it can be reached [05:49] <\9> also please provide any error messages you're getting [05:49] !deb | uruk7 [05:49] uruk7: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility. [05:50] hmm that wasnt very usefull [05:50] <\9> !packaging | uruk7 [05:50] uruk7: The packaging guide is at http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring [05:50] \9 traceroute 0.0.0.0 22 ??? [05:50] !packaging | uruk7 [05:50] <\9> lotuspsychje: you can pm ubottu with factoids [05:51] \9: tnx, i know i thought !deb one would hold the packaging also [05:51] <\9> yuta: pretty sure VPS hosts don't run at 0.0.0.0. [05:51] of course, it was an example IP [05:52] <\9> ah right. afaik you don't provide the port to traceroute [05:52] when I run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5-5.6, I get the error Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:ondrej/php5-5.6'. [05:52] i ran it and it output a lot of hosts information, how can i realize if something is wrong? [05:53] I run sudo apt-get install --reinstall ca-certificates but still get the error trying to add the repository [05:54] javlens: we cant officialy support ppa's here mate, contact the maintainer [05:55] <\9> yuta: it's pathing the route to the VPS. there's a problem if it cannot reach the VPS host [05:55] javlens: i would recommend if you need to change php version, to try another ubuntu version perhaps? [05:56] \9 i tried to log in with a VPN, but it is the same. [05:56] lotuspsychje: looks like I need to add the base php repo, so the instructions I found originally were wrong [05:56] fount a good guide here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40567133/cannot-add-ppa-ppaondrej-php5-5-6 [05:57] javlens: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php >> "The PHP 5.5 and later are no longer supported with security updates, therefore they are not included in this repository." [05:57] <\9> yuta: what exactly happens if you use ssh? it hangs? [05:58] yes, if i run it with verbose it say this: OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4ubuntu2.1, OpenSSL 1.0.2g 1 Mar 2016 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to 31.220.56.203 [31.220.56.203] port 22. debug1: connect to address 31.220.56.203 port 22: Connection timed out ssh: connect to host 31.220.56.203 port 22: Connection timed out [06:01] <\9> yuta: that indeed would indicate a networking problem [06:01] maybe my ISP is blocking the VPS servers? [06:04] <\9> yuta: or maybe there's a firewall in between [06:06] tried with sudo ufw disable, but the same. [06:06] yuta, that would address YOUR firewall but no other [06:06] i know [06:08] with the web client there is so much lag and i cant configure things well. what can i do? [06:10] if i ping the ip address it responses normally [06:12] yuta: perhaps the #openssh channel can also help you sorting out [06:14] thanks lotuspsychje [06:16] im having trouble installing a driver [06:16] i did make [06:16] and then sudo make install [06:16] but it doesnt load it [06:17] clean install, its the only way [06:17] sorry i dont understand [06:17] i'm running some commands inside the debian installer preseed "d-i preseed/late_command" that I'd like to see the output of inside the installer console [06:17] doonz: wich driver, wich ubuntu driver? wich chipset? [06:17] any suggestions? [06:17] !debian | vmorris [06:17] vmorris: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! [06:18] Tehuti_TN4010 [06:18] lotuspsychje: Tehuti_TN4010 [06:18] its a 10gbe network card [06:18] cfhowlett thanks, I already knew this... [06:18] the readme only says to run make, then make isntall [06:19] and then use lsmod to confirm its loaded [06:19] but its not [06:19] * doonz really doesnt know what hes doing [06:19] doonz: try reboot [06:19] cfhowlett, and anyone else who cares to know better: ubuntu uses the debian installer! neato amirite [06:20] vmorris, perhaps a bit more clarity in your question structure can reduce the confusion, knowwhatimsayin? [06:20] dont really wanna reboot at this moment morf [06:21] doonz: wich ubuntu version? [06:21] 1404lts [06:21] 14.04 64bit lts [06:21] doonz: is it a new card? did that card work before on ubuntu? [06:21] nope new [06:21] lets see, okay.. there's this thing, it's called the debian installer. you can automate it using something called a preseed. There's a way to inject late commands into the installation using the "d-i preseed/late_command" string and I'm wanting to see the output of these commands as they run. [06:22] does this makes sense? [06:22] doonz: take morf 's advice and reboot [06:22] ok [06:22] doonz: if it compiled correctly and creating correct files to autoload on boot it should do the trick... [06:23] * doonz crosses fingers [06:23]