[00:12] <japird> #ebooks
[00:19] <R13ose> When I minimize my open windows, I see nothing but a black screen, how do I fix this?
[01:12] <MTMaster> When I tried to dual boot windows 10 and kubuntu, it now only just boots into kubuntu. no grub option showing up for which OS i want to boot into or anything. How should I fix?
[01:13] <betzen529> Is anyone having problems with plasmashell crashing at login with today's backports update?
[01:14] <R13ose> betzen529: can you explain what you are seeing when crashing?
[01:16] <betzen529> I enter login credentials at login screen.  plasmashell tries to load.  desktop comes up. bottom panel tries to load.  crash.
[01:16] <R13ose> betzen529: black screen after that?
[01:17] <betzen529> yes. krunner still pops up when called, etc.  so kwin seems to be running
[01:19] <R13ose> betzen529: I got that black screen problem after I opened a program.  I tried alt+space but after two tries I think krunner crashes for me.
[01:20] <betzen529> Ok.  I'll keep trying to track it down.  I'm just trying to see if this is a common problem that's just cropped up, or a problem with my system only.
[01:21] <R13ose> betzen529: mine might be similar.  If you want me to test anything or you find a solution let me know.
[01:21] <betzen529> will do.
[01:22] <R13ose> Thanks
[01:31] <R13ose> rbetzen: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[01:55] <R13ose> How do I get rid of ppa's that fail?
[02:40] <valorie> !ppapurge | R13ose:
[02:40] <valorie> works really well
[02:42] <R13ose> valorie: yes but isn't there one command to use in terminal that can get rid of all of them?
[02:45] <valorie> each of them, one at a time
[02:46] <R13ose> Okay thanks
[03:00] <Warrington> Has anyone found a solution to KDE's brightness control issue on intel graphics
[03:07] <arturo> hi, how can I remove this repo: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes
[03:07] <arturo> I used it to install python3.4
[03:08] <arturo> anyone here>
[03:08] <arturo> ?
[03:30] <Crell> Hello.  I have a fresh install of 16.10.  When I start Kontact (or any of its pieces), I get errors about Akonadi not being able to start.  How exactly do I fix that?  And more to the point, why would Akonadi be broken out of the box?
[03:31] <Crell> syslog is showing errors relating to apparmor, indicating DENIED access to MySQL.  Wha?
[06:40] <hernan> hola
[06:40] <hernan> :D
[07:29] <teksimian> hello, how come i cant find krdc in any kubuntu repository?  shouldnt that be available on this distro?
[09:06] <efloid> how are the new plasma backports doing?
[09:21] <acheronuk> efloid: 'doing'?
[09:57] <yofel> !info krdc | teksimian
[09:57] <yofel> it is there... maybe you were only looking in 'main' ?
[10:43] <efloid> acheronuk: just curious if any issues since release
[10:43] <acheronuk> efloid: needed a small akonadi update
[10:44] <efloid> acheronuk: i tried the backport staging a couple days ago and had issues
[10:44] <acheronuk> some people have issues with plasma starting, but that is the case with pretty much any major plasma version upgrade. most have been fine though
[10:45] <efloid> some packages wouldn't install, and yes there was an issue with plasma not starting, complaining about dbus
[10:45] <acheronuk> what packages would not install?
[10:47] <efloid> acheronuk: i'm trying to remember the name.  soemthing required a library package which was a higher version than available in the archive.  i finally found that version in debian sid but then i had to add a whole ton of other packages from sid also.  at that point just gave up and reinstalled the system (with Neon :-)
[10:47] <efloid> acheronuk: let me check.  i think i can get the package name
[10:47] <acheronuk> thanks
[10:50] <efloid> libkf5newstuff5
[10:51] <acheronuk> have you got the actual error message?
[10:52] <efloid> some package in the staging repo was dependent on version 5.28
[10:53] <efloid> maybe it was plasma-workspace
[10:53] <efloid> or plasma-desktop
[10:54] <efloid> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libkf5newstuff5&searchon=names&suite=unstable&section=all
[10:55] <acheronuk> should not in theory be a problem, as it's there at version 5.28
[10:55] <acheronuk> See: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+sourcepub/7327281/+listing-archive-extra
[10:58] <acheronuk> have not hit any broken dependencies on it so far. would really need to know the exact package name AND version that wanted it and caused the error
[11:03] <efloid> i'm looking at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports and i don't see libkf5newstuff5 in the archive for yakkety
[11:05] <efloid> here's the one in yakkety which is too low version: http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/libkf5newstuff5
[11:10] <efloid> i think it was plasma-desktop that was dependent on the higher version
[11:11] <efloid> anyhow, i wonder if the staging archive was not the same as the official backport one?
[11:15] <efloid> if you can find out which libkf5newstuff5 this depends on: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=plasma-desktop&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=yakkety
[11:17] <acheronuk> efloid: let me have a look
[11:18] <acheronuk> efloid: it is there: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=knewstuff&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=yakkety
[11:19] <efloid> ok.  maybe it wasn't added to the staging archive yet when i had tried to upgrade
[11:20] <efloid> ah, but that's not the same as libkf5newstuff5
[11:20] <efloid> unless it replaces it
[11:20] <acheronuk> yes, it is the same as libkf5newstuff5
[11:20] <acheronuk> knewstuff is the source package name
[11:21] <acheronuk> libkf5newstuff5 is the library produced from that source
[11:21] <Smurphy> Anyone here using plasma-widget-marble ???
[11:22] <acheronuk> see: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+sourcepub/7327571/+listing-archive-extra
[11:22] <efloid> acheronuk: do you know anything about the dbus issue?
[11:23] <acheronuk> efloid: not really, but I've seen reports of people on normal xenial without backports getting it, plus I think some on trusty
[11:23] <efloid> acheronuk: the message was "Could not start d-bus. Can you call qdbus?"
[11:24] <acheronuk> so I have a feeling it is maybe more a issue with some other ubuntu updates, so coincidental, or something that is maybe only exacerbated by the backports for some people
[11:26] <kim__> uhm
[12:30] <kubuntu__> hi
[12:31] <kubuntu__> I am new to kde
[12:31] <kubuntu__> I was mostly an xfce user
[12:32] <kubuntu__> How could I change the keyboard layout to Dvorak?
[12:38] <Smurphy> System settings -> Hardware/Input devices
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:54] <kubuntu__> I am getting confused in kde
[12:55] <kubuntu__> It is much more advanced and complicated than xfce
[12:55] <BluesKaj> more details kubuntu__
[12:57] <kubuntu__> Yeah
[12:57] <kubuntu__> For some behaviours in xfce, I had to write scripts to be launched after each login
[12:58] <kubuntu__> But it seems that kde has most of those behaviours builtin and should only be configured in settings
[12:58] <BluesKaj> kubuntu__, choose a specific issue and we can go from there
[12:59] <FlameReaper-PC> Looks like fcitx-frontend-qt5 gets broken again
[12:59] <kubuntu__> One of the main ones was converting CapsLock to additional Backspace
[12:59] <kubuntu__> And then make "pressing both shifts together as new CapsLock"
[13:01] <acheronuk> kubuntu__: https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/keyboard/index.html
[13:01] <kubuntu__> kde5 has both these features available in Settings -> Hardware -> Keyboard -> Advanced
[13:01] <acheronuk> FlameReaper-PC: broken how?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> kubuntu__, do you have a question or are you here just to do a commentary
[13:02] <FlameReaper-PC> acheronuk: Updating to KDE 5.8.4 right now
[13:02] <FlameReaper-PC> and one of the packages listed to be removed was fcitx-frontend-qt5
[13:02] <kubuntu__> BluesKaj: It was my question minutes ago, but I found the solution
[13:04] <acheronuk> FlameReaper-PC: let me see if I can fix that
[13:04] <BluesKaj> kubuntu__, next time put it in the form of a question
[13:05] <FlameReaper-PC> acheronuk: thanks!
[13:06] <acheronuk> FlameReaper-PC: See: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=fci&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[13:07] <acheronuk> FlameReaper-PC: when that goes from pending to published, and the build status to a green tick, please try the package again
[13:07] <acheronuk> after doing a 'sudo apt update' or equivalent via a GUI etc
[13:07] <FlameReaper-PC> thanks, will test that after the machine finishes updating
[13:11] <BluesKaj> FlameReaper-PC,  backports ?
[13:12] <kubuntu__> acheronuk: I confirm that fcitx was broken for me too
[13:12] <kubuntu__> http://pasteboard.co/aTCyXoDRv.png
[13:13] <kubuntu__> I am currently testing Kubuntu 16.04.1
[13:15] <FlameReaper-PC> BluesKaj:  Yes
[13:16] <BluesKaj> FlameReaper-PC, thanks, good to kinow
[13:19] <kubuntu__> BluesKaj: Can I ask some more questions? How could I have a vertical panel to put notifications on it vertically?
[13:20] <kubuntu__> I want to keep the main horizontal panel below the screen as empty as possible for window handles to fill
[13:26] <BluesKaj> kubuntu__, right click on the main panel>panel options>panel settings>more settings
[13:41] <kubuntu__> But I want to add a new panel in addition to the current one
[13:43] <kubuntu__> Ok I found it
[13:57] <kubuntu__> I have another problem too
[13:58] <kubuntu__> When I add a vertical panel, the right side of windows go behind that panel
[13:58] <kubuntu__> I don't want this
[14:00] <kubuntu__> See
[14:00] <kubuntu__> https://www.imageupload.co.uk/image/BQih
[14:01] <BluesKaj> look for "always visible" in "more settings" after right clicking on that panel and choosing panel options
[14:02] <kubuntu__> I have set "always visible" option, but no success!
[14:05] <kubuntu__> Maybe I should restart?
[15:16] <FlameReaper-PC> acheronuk: all right, I can confirm fcitx works with qt5 again. again, thank you for the help
[15:16] <acheronuk> :)
[15:25] <jolomar> como puedo buscar otros canales del irc
[15:26] <soee_> !pr
[15:27] <soee_> !es | jolomar
[15:27] <jolomar> ok, excume please
[18:38] <k_j> hi
[18:39] <lauritzt[m]> k_j: Hi
[18:39] <k_j> can you tell me the latest gcc version available for the latest kubuntu?
[18:39] <lauritzt[m]> k_j: What version?
[18:39] <k_j> gcc -v
[18:40] <lauritzt[m]> k_j: What Kubuntu version? 16.04 or 16.10?
[18:40] <k_j> the latest
[18:40] <k_j> 16.10 i guess
[18:41] <lauritzt[m]> Looks like it's 6.1.1-1
[18:41] <renn0xtk9> What is the status of kubuntu ? I mean I stopped to follow the story when A guy whas kicked out of Ubuntu Council and some people meant it would slowly be the end of Kubuntu, tha they would not realisticallty be able to ship any new version. Has someone mor hints on that?
[18:43] <lauritzt[m]> k_j: Looks like it's 6.1.1-1
[18:43] <k_j> lauritzt[m], thanks
[18:43] <Dragnslcr> renn0xtk9- Kubuntu is doing fine
[18:43] <lauritzt[m]> k_j: FYI, you can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:45] <renn0xtk9> so what dit it change that the guy was kicekd off and stuff?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> renn0xtk9, "the guy" as you call him works for the company that supportd kubuntu now
[18:53] <BluesKaj> supports
[18:55] <renn0xtk9> BluesKaj, don't remember his name .. But if the connection is broken will it not make it harder to make releases, and lts support and stuffs? Won't it leas the whole to be less reliable?    Basically I am in the position of making choice between keep going with Kubuntu of go with Opensuse
[18:57] <BluesKaj> renn0xtk9, http://www.blue-systems.com/
[18:59] <BluesKaj> renn0xtk9, there also a large number of volunteer developers still hard at work making kubuntu better and better... check out #kubuntu-devel
[20:04] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm on a fresh install of 16.10. One of my apps, Choqok (the twitter client) is asking to open kdewallet and wants a password.  I know I'm giving it the right password because I JUST set the password for the first time 100 seconds ago.  Yet it's claiming it doesn't have access and I'm giving it the wrong password.  Even if I tell it to not use kdewallet, same error.
[20:04] <Crell> Any suggestions?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Crell, disable wallet manager in system settings>account destails >KDE Wallet
[20:10] <Crell> Just kill it entirely?  Why's it even there if it shouldn't be used? :-)
[20:12] <BluesKaj> some use it, some don't  need it ...depends on your type od computing, most enterprise/office situations require extra security ...being a home user I don't bothe with it.
[20:13] <BluesKaj> bother
[20:13] <Crell> I'm a work-from-home user so my content is highly mixed.  Nothing extra sensitive, though.
[20:14] <Crell> Unrelated: Didn't Akoandi used to have a GUI?  Everything I'm finding on how to set it up so that KMail starts properly says to manually create databases and edit files in hidden directories.
[20:17] <BluesKaj> PIm is another package group i don't use....sorry I'm not much there either
[20:17] <Crell> Drat.
[20:18] <Crell> I keep trying KMail every few years when I upgrade/reinstall, and it's always too much of a PITA to get me to move away from Thunderbird.
[20:18] <BluesKaj> Crell, you could ask in #kde
[20:19] <Crell> It's always difficult to tell which channel to ask in.  Half the time I get told to go to the other one, regardless of which I'm in. :-)
[20:19] <Crell> Oh good.  And KMail insists on having KWallet.
[20:19] <BluesKaj> yeah, I drank the gmail kool ade long ago
[20:19] <Crell> I hate their UI.
[20:20] <BluesKaj> t-bird works well tho
[20:21] <Crell> Yeah, it's just the only gecko thing I use.  And I could never get it to use a non-Firefox as a browser when clicking links. :-)
[20:22] <Mikey1234> i installed ubuntu 16.04 the installed kbuntu desktop    now when i enter kbe i have no applications i can search and see then installed
[20:22] <Mikey1234> how to i make them show in menu
[20:23] <Mikey1234> anyone ?
[20:24] <sintre> never done that type of install maybe do a fresh start with kubuntu out the gate?
[20:24] <Mikey1234> thats my next choice
[20:25] <sintre> sometimes faster than trouble shooting where things could be wrong
[20:26] <Mikey1234> understand that
[20:26] <BluesKaj> Mikey1234, install plasma-desktop
[20:27] <BluesKaj> update and upgrade first
[20:27] <sintre> btw has plasma 5.8 been backported to 16.04 just curious
[20:27] <sintre> or still in testing
[20:27] <Mikey1234> tried that i only get blank screen i can see mouse  .. .     then i was reading and some1 told do apt get kde desktop done that then i get to desktop but nothing is there
[20:28] <efeciftci> sintre: it seems it has been backported yes
[20:28] <sintre> i think mikey can't see anything
[20:28] <BluesKaj> it's in the ppas, sintre , best to ask which ones in #kubuntu-devel
[20:28] <Mikey1234> hahahah
[20:29] <Mikey1234> I"m new as you can tell but im not giving up
[20:29] <sintre> same thing here , don't make me tell you my epic battle with new pc last month
[20:30] <efeciftci> I'd personally like to enable backports ppa on my xenial installation, but that famous timezone bug hits me as well, so I'll wait until fixed qt packages are backported as well :(
[20:30] <sintre> i just am hoping plsma 5.8 fixes the duel monitor problem with differen size screen resolutions :)
[20:31] <sintre> well devs seem to be all eating lunch atm :(
[20:33] <Mikey1234> if i go to search and type in say firefox it shows up i can run it ...  they dont show up unless i search for them in the all applications menu
[20:33] <sintre> ok first right click on lil k at bottom left
[20:34] <sintre> see if you can switch to application launch
[20:34] <BluesKaj> sintre, I would make a uggestion, but I've chastised for posting ppas in here since dev apps aren't officially supported
[20:34] <sintre> will say alternative
[20:34] <sintre> BluesKaj permission to send tell :)
[20:34] <BluesKaj> been chastised, that is
[20:35] <sintre> me too
[20:35] <Mikey1234> when i click on the k i see favorites app  computer history leave ..   all are blank   this is a new install   under comptuer i can see my dir s
[20:36] <sintre> lright click on little k
[20:36] <sintre> right sry
[20:37] <Mikey1234> no k on the right
[20:37] <sintre> right click on the k at bottom left
[20:38] <Mikey1234> i have my menus but nothing in them
[20:38] <Mikey1234> ok i see what u mean sorry
[20:39] <Mikey1234> ok im there spp launcher settings
[20:39] <Mikey1234> show apps by name done it thanks
[20:40] <sintre> thgo to alternatives
[20:40] <sintre> alternatives
[20:41] <sintre> then click on app menu
[20:41] <Mikey1234> k
[20:41] <sintre> then ok
[20:41] <sintre> can you find stuff now?
[20:42] <Mikey1234> yes worked great thank you
[20:43] <sintre> np ,
[22:21] <R13ose> How do I make the touch pad less sensitive?
[22:23] <lauritzt[m]> R13ose: System Settings > Input Devices > Touchpad > Pointer Motion
[22:25] <R13ose> lauritzt[m]: thanks, what do I move?
[22:26] <lauritzt[m]> R13ose: Whatever you want to adjust? Put the Maximum down, for example.
[22:27] <R13ose> lauritzt[m]: I will try that and see what happens
[22:28] <user|43330> Afternoon, question here... Say, is there a folder where I can copy pics for the desktopbackground? Or do I have to add them one by one by right clicking on the desktop, and going to "configure desktop"?
[22:33] <valorie> user|43330: just put them all in one folder, called desktop pics or so
[22:34] <valorie> you can make them a slideshow if you want, and change as often as you want
[22:34] <valorie> once a minute, or an hour or a week -- whatever you want
[22:35] <user|43330> I have a folder with all the pictures that I'd like as backgrounds, but how do I load them to the background, do I have to do one at the time?
[22:36] <user|43330> or is there a specific directory?
[22:36] <valorie> you can put that dir where ever you want, in your $HOME
[22:37] <valorie> I have mine in ~/Pictures/desktop pix
[22:37] <valorie> for instance
[22:38] <user|43330> Ok I see.
[22:38] <valorie> then you right-click on the desktop and point it to the "custom folder"
[22:38] <valorie> and set up all the parameters you want
[22:40] <user|43330> ok Thanks.
[22:41] <R13ose> How do I put a background when I bootup my computer but not lose this when I update?
[22:46] <valorie> R13ose: like a background image on your desktop?
[22:46] <R13ose> valorie: the boot screen
[22:46] <valorie> oh, not sure
[22:47] <valorie> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=125293 might help
[22:57] <R13ose> valorie: I mean when boot says kubuntu and the four dots below
[23:01] <lauritzt[m]> R13ose: Make a custom plymouth theme?
[23:03] <lauritzt[m]> R13ose: What did you do before?
[23:06] <R13ose> lauritzt[m]: this is blank now just the kubuntu and four dots.  Before I had some space background.  I don't want a custom one.
[23:11] <valorie> kubuntu + four dots has been the plymouth theme for about 3 years
[23:12] <valorie> it is possible to customize it, but I've never tried, or wanted to
[23:13] <R13ose> I want to
[23:18] <lauritzt[m]> R13ose: What did you do to customise the background?
[23:24] <R13ose> lauritzt[m]: I can't remember that
[23:54] <alphazulu> the only way i seem to be able to resize windows is by using a meta key and right click
[23:55] <alphazulu> under "Window Actions and Behavior" there is the setting.  but I just want regular old resize
[23:56] <yocs0000> I would like to be able to run dolphin 4 aside dolphin 5 is that possible?
[23:56] <valorie> you can't grab the edge or corner and resize?
[23:57] <valorie> yocs0000: I doubt it
[23:57] <valorie> unless you run one of them in a VM
[23:57] <yocs0000> valorie: well, you can install them
[23:58] <yocs0000> why no desktop file?
[23:59] <valorie> I don't know what you mean?
[23:59] <valorie> !info dolphin