hfsplus | yo | 01:07 |
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hfsplus | High Fructose Corn Syrup | 01:07 |
ubottu | lotuspsychje called the ops in #ubuntu (P`O`N`T`I`A`C spam) | 07:25 |
bazhang | firesword seems to add only noise afaict | 08:09 |
* FireSword waves | 08:09 | |
bazhang | yes | 08:10 |
bazhang | what is it FireSword | 08:10 |
FireSword | Well, if you ask me, this is a little beyond. | 08:10 |
FireSword | Anyway | 08:11 |
bazhang | FireSword, you have been asked repeatedly to stop the excessive noise | 08:11 |
bazhang | that includes all the /me sighs and so on | 08:11 |
FireSword | I can barely type, so it is likely that I put 10 lines into the channel. | 08:12 |
bazhang | FireSword, there is a very specific channel for that noise | 08:12 |
FireSword | If I may | 08:12 |
bazhang | #ubuntu is Not that channel FireSword | 08:12 |
FireSword | Speak briefly | 08:13 |
dax | I've seen you type just fine elsewhere, so this does not really seem like a problem you find insurmountable. | 08:13 |
bazhang | please do so | 08:13 |
FireSword | I like ubuntu, it may not be my favorite, but it might well be. | 08:14 |
FireSword | I have spent years and years running unix and linux based systems. And my intention was always to share and teach. | 08:15 |
FireSword | I am new here, but I have been running an irc net for over 20 years. | 08:16 |
FireSword | I might make a joke sometime *shrug* | 08:17 |
bazhang | FireSword, well don't | 08:17 |
FireSword | I would like to know a little more about the support in 16.04 for the hw I have now. | 08:18 |
bazhang | FireSword, if you are so experienced in irc, you can easily switch to an offtopic channel | 08:18 |
FireSword | I read online and in blogs. | 08:18 |
FireSword | Honestly | 08:18 |
bazhang | FireSword, we are not here to discuss that at all | 08:18 |
FireSword | This net is overall very strict about on and off topic. | 08:19 |
bazhang | some channels are | 08:19 |
FireSword | Which is fine | 08:19 |
FireSword | But it takes getting used to | 08:19 |
bazhang | FireSword, so please stay on topic, switch, like the rest of us to an offtopic channel for chit chat | 08:19 |
FireSword | I wil try to | 08:20 |
FireSword | Do my best | 08:20 |
FireSword | I do have to say this | 08:21 |
bazhang | FireSword, please do so, we are very clear about where to chit chat and where not to | 08:21 |
FireSword | I admire the model of this net. Mine was started in 1996, and once it was the 4th largest. | 08:21 |
FireSword | We limited the channels to no porno and o warez, and at the time, that dropped the userbase drastically. | 08:22 |
FireSword | In a sense | 08:22 |
FireSword | We were targeting what we didn't want instead of what we did want, like freenode did. | 08:23 |
bazhang | FireSword, are we clear? | 08:23 |
FireSword | bazhang, it has always been clear that any operator in a channel can do more or less what they like wrt the others in there. | 08:26 |
FireSword | ubuntu is a fairly broad topic | 08:27 |
bazhang | FireSword, not clear then | 08:27 |
bazhang | FireSword, chatting *about* ubuntu is one thing, helping people fix their ubuntu issues is another issue entirely | 08:29 |
FireSword | Well, like I said, I worked on OS dev for BSD/OS, and less for Solaris. The ISP I worked for had source licenses. I have been runnung ubuntu on my personal pcs and laptops since 2009. | 08:30 |
FireSword | I might be able to help with some things. | 08:30 |
FireSword | When I was in grad school in 2009, I took a systems administration and security class, and got a perfect 100% | 08:31 |
FireSword | Getting back to the topic | 08:32 |
FireSword | I have spent years in help channels on irc, and I thought I had the ability to determine when chat was interfering with help. | 08:32 |
dax | Apparently you're under the impression that things are more complicated than they are, so allow me to clarify. | 08:33 |
dax | #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. | 08:33 |
dax | #ubuntu is not for things that are not Ubuntu technical support. | 08:34 |
dax | This continues to apply regardless of your opinions about how much technical support is needed at a given time. | 08:34 |
FireSword | If you have a different tolerance level, then I will shut up and lurk until I can become more aware. | 08:34 |
FireSword | If I decide to stay there. | 08:34 |
FireSword | heh | 08:34 |
FireSword | Or if I am allowed to :) | 08:34 |
dax | So yes, if you do not have Ubuntu technical support to offer to the Ubuntu technical support channel at a time, please do feel free to "shut up and lurk". | 08:34 |
FireSword | Oddly, really, most of the unix and linux systems seem the same to me. | 08:36 |
FireSword | The BSD ATT split is a big difference. | 08:36 |
FireSword | And linux is to me a hybrid, which I used to be irritated by. | 08:37 |
dax | Are you under the impression that any of this is at all relevant or interesting? | 08:37 |
FireSword | Not if you put it that way :P | 08:37 |
dax | Because, it is not. We want you to behave in #ubuntu and not go offtopic. Going offtopic in #ubuntu's ops channel is neither productive nor engendering confidence in your ability to behave. | 08:37 |
dax | So rather than most of the above, please just stop with the non-support chatter in #ubuntu and spare us and #ubuntu commentary on your life thusfar. | 08:38 |
FireSword | I already said I will shut up and lurk should I decide to remain. | 08:41 |
FireSword | Is there a reason for me to stay in here? | 08:43 |
bazhang | FireSword, are we clear about the delineation between chit chat and support? | 08:48 |
FireSword | I think we always were, with the exception of how you want the channel to proceed. | 08:52 |
FireSword | Which is now clear, too. | 08:52 |
FireSword | I apologize | 08:54 |
FireSword | I am really bored, tho, so if I come into channels and make spurious remarks, it is just to entertain myself, but that is my responsibility, and I won't impose any unnecessary burden on you or your users. | 08:57 |
bazhang | FireSword, as we are very clear about the on and offtopic chats, could you please exit here at this time, thanks | 09:36 |
* FireSword looks both ways before crossing the street out and waves | 10:13 | |
dax | ikonia: banmask$##channel, not ! | 22:17 |
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